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El Chapo Back in Prison After Dramatic Capture; Muslim Woman Kicked Out Of Trump Rally; NYPD Officer Shot And Wounded In Bronx; Refugees Arrested On Terror-Related Charges; Paris Remembers Charlie Hebdo Victims; Toxic Water in Flint, Michigan; Powerball Hits $800 Million. Aired 6-7a ET
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[06:01:11] VICTOR BLACKWELL, CNN ANCHOR: Breaking overnight, you are looking now at new video of El Chapo moments after his capture. You see him here as he was captured after that shootout yesterday after being on the run for more than 180 days.
CHRISTI PAUL, CNN ANCHOR: Good morning. We're so grateful to have you with us. I'm Christi Paul. You know, you look at that moment and you think when they stopped and made him look at cameras, how humiliating that must be for a guy who is considered a drug lord as he is.
BLACKWELL: And it's a look he's given twice after escaping after that first capture. I'm Victor Blackwell. Good to be with you.
We are beginning with the breaking news this morning out of Mexico. This morning, El Chapo is back at the high security Altiplano Prison, and if that sounds familiar, that's the same prison from which he escaped last July.
We just showed you the new video of the drug kingpin. Take a look at it again, just before being transported to Mexico City. You see this pause where his head was turned by one of those Marines to face the cameras.
And you see here, minutes after he was caught by the Mexican officials there in Los Mochis after a deadly shootout and a frantic chase through sewers after he tried to escape through a manhole.
CNN's Nick Valencia is live in Mexico City. He was just 50 yards, I understand, from El Chapo last night. Nick, tell us what you saw and give us the details, I understand, pretty dramatic about how he was caught.
NICK VALENCIA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: It was pretty dramatic. It was actually a coordinated effort between multiple agencies, not just in Mexico, but also in the United States. We are told that that house where he was holed up in was under surveillance for at least a month. El Chapo arrived sometime on Thursday. That decision by the Mexican Navy was made to conduct a raid in the early morning hours of Friday. When that raid ultimately was under way, they were met by strong resistance, presumably by cartel operatives related to the Sinaloa cartel.
That cartel that El Chapo was the head of. At least one Marine, a Mexican Navy I should say, was injured in this shootout. They did descend on that, at which point we are told El Chapo escaped through a sewage system.
Only to emerge at the surface to steal a car along with an associate. That vehicle was spotted on an interstate somehow outside of the city. That's where he was inevitably caught by the Mexican Navy and other special forces.
But ultimately, Victor, it may have been his own ego and carelessness that got him caught. We were told last night at that presentation that you were talking about there where he was presented to the media that I was at.
We were told there that he actually reached out to producers and actresses. He was planning on trying to make a movie about his life and that could have been ultimately his downfall -- Victor.
PAUL: All right, it's Christi here, and I'm wondering, Nick, a lot of people are watching this. They are waking up and they are wondering, is he coming to the U.S.? What word are you getting about any possible extradition to the United States?
VALENCIA: I think that's the biggest question, not just here in Mexico, but also in the United States. We saw this past summer the United States right actually the week that El Chapo escaped from the Altiplano Prison that the United States had filed a formal request for extradition of El Chapo.
A lot of people raised some eyebrows here to the fact that El Chapo escaped the same week that that request came. Many speculating that El Chapo may have had assistance to avoid that extradition.
That, of course, cannot be confirmed, but the United States is very eager to get El Chapo on U.S. soil. He is, of course, public enemy number one in Chicago. He faces U.S. drug charges there.
We have this quote from the Justice Department about his extradition or presumably the potential for extradition. It says, "I can confirm that it's the practice of the U.S. to seek extradition whenever defendants subject to U.S. charges are apprehended in another country."
If there is any optimism in recent weeks, we have seen some very high profile cartel operatives extradited to the United States, most recently, La Barbi (ph), who face justice in an Atlanta courtroom just last week -- Victor, Christi.
PAUL: All right, hey, Nick, we appreciate it. Thank you so much. BLACKWELL: Of course, we will have much more on this story the capture of El Chapo throughout the morning. Of course, now, we want to turn to politics.
[06:05:03]PAUL: Yes, protesters getting kicked out of a Donald Trump rally. Not new, necessarily, we've seen it. There is a twist that what happened last night, though, in South Carolina.
This was a Muslim woman who was escorted out for simply standing up. She didn't say anything, we understand. This was as Trump questioned the motives of Syrian refugees saying they, quote, "are probably ISIS."
Well, the woman in the crowd then quietly stood up in protest of that. It sparked a big disruption.
BLACKWELL: CNN's Jeff Zeleny was there and has more on what happened next and more about who this woman is.
JEFF ZELENY, CNN SENIOR WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT: Victor, Christi, Donald Trump attracts protesters pretty much everywhere he goes around the country. No exception here on Friday night in Rock Hill, South Carolina.
He drew a crowd of about 6,000 people to the campus of Winthrop University. The rally was going on as it normally does, talking about immigration, his Republican rivals, and of course, Hillary Clinton, all of that fires up this crowd.
At about 30 minutes into the rally, something different happened, we noticed that there was a woman standing across the way, standing up, it turns out she's a 56-year-old flight attendant from Charlotte.
Her name is Rose Hamid. She is an American Muslim and she said she came to this rally so Trump supporters could see what a Muslim actually look like so she could talk with them.
She was standing silently and protesting as you can see, and she was suddenly escorted out. The crowd turned a bit ugly toward her as she was taken up the stairs by the policemen. Afterwards, she talked to CNN's Don Lemon about her experience.
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ROSE HAMID, MUSLIM WOMAN KICKED OUT OF TRUMP RALLY: What happened when the crowds got this hateful crowd mentality as I was being escorted, it was really quite telling of -- and a vivid example of what happens when you start using this hateful rhetoric and how it can incite a crowd where moments ago were very kind to me.
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ZELENY: Now, it was unclear if Donald Trump knew exactly what was happening during this rally. Again, not uncommon at all for there to be protesters happening and there were pockets of protests breaking out throughout. But his crowds have been fired up about Muslims in the U.S. ever since he proposed to ban all Muslims from traveling to the United States. It's one of his central policy proposals now.
So he campaigns here in South Carolina, a very aggressive style of campaigning. Of course, South Carolina has the first in the south primary in just about a month's time.
But his first focus is on Iowa. He'll be heading there on Saturday where he is locked in a title battle with Ted Cruz. A new Fox News poll out shows that Ted Cruz is leading Donald Trump. That's why he is spending the weekend in Iowa -- Victor and Christi.
BLACKWELL: All right, Jeff, thank you so much. We will talk about Cruz vs. Trump in just a moment. Let's bring in now CNN political commentator, Errol Louis, to talk about what we saw at that Rock Hill event last night. Errol, good morning to you and your reaction to what happened there.
ERROR LOUIS, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Good morning, Victor. Look, it looked to me that the Trump campaign and the candidate, himself, are going to have to reckon with a part of what they have stirred up.
What they have said in some of this harsh rhetoric about Muslims and about immigrants and about whether or not simply being Muslim is a reason to exclude someone from this country.
I don't know what he thought he was going to get by way of backlash. I would only point out that there are more Muslims than Jews or Presbyterians in the United States more than Episcopalians.
You know, I mean, it's not a small group of people who are here already and they have every right to make their views known politically as this woman did.
And I think this will probably be the start of more demonstrations, some more thoughtful than others, to try and bring attention to the fact that not everybody agrees with the way Donald Trump has characterize immigrants, Muslims, and what we should do with and about these folks.
BLACKWELL: You know what Trump said after the woman there was being escorted out. There is a hatred against us that is unbelievable. It's their hatred. It's not our hatred. You talk about having to reconcile what happened there.
We heard from Reince Priebus, the head of the RNC, this week that he is 100 percent confident that he will be able to rally the Republican Party behind Donald Trump or Ted Cruz if they are the nominee.
But if they are not, will he be able to, I guess, get their supporters, who what we saw there in Rock Hill behind another candidate?
LOUIS: Well, it's an interesting question. Can you put the Genie back in the bottle? I mean, this is what I think people have been cautioning Donald Trump about. This is why when he speaks scornfully about, quote/unquote, "political correctness."
He says that, you know, "I don't need notes. I don't any consultants. I don't need to temper my speech in anyway." Well, there is a reason that maybe you should if you want to lead 300 million people.
It's because there are a lot of different strange thoughts. There are a lot of different possibilities that could take this country in a different direction.
Meaning if somebody else other than Donald Trump becomes the president, the Republican Party is going to have to try and figure out what it stands for, what to do with people who have now been told over and over and over again by the Republican frontrunner that it's not only OK.
[06:10:05]But it's necessary to have this kind of harsh policy outcome, this kind of harsh talk against Muslims, against immigrants.
You know, it's too important to just be left to these kind of stadium, you know, sort of shout outs and this kind of off the cuff commentary that you get a lot of times from candidate Trump.
Reince Priebus is going to have his hands full I think trying to sort of restore some order to what has been a very raucous and rowdy conversation right now.
BLACKWELL: All right, Errol Louis, I promise we will get to those numbers out of Iowa. We will get to those later in the morning. But we got to get to breaking news, Errol, thank you so much.
LOUIS: Thank you, Victor.
PAUL: All right, we want to get you back to New York so we can see what is happening there, very rare to see a news conference with the mayor and the police commissioner at 6:00 a.m. but here it is.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAM BRATTON, NEW YORK POLICE: As well as Pat Lynch, president of PBA, will also speak. I am joined also by some of the senior leadership of the department who were at the scene earlier and who have been at the hospital here for the last hour or so.
Details as we have them at the moment. At approximately 2:10 a.m. this morning, an anti-crime unit police officer here in the Bronx were shot and wounded in exchange of gunfire with a suspect in front of 188 Lincoln Avenue here in the South Bronx.
Police Officer Sharod Stewart was assigned to plain clothes anti-crime patrol with his partner when he responded to numerous 911 calls reporting a large fight in the street with gun, bats and knives at 2505 Third Avenue.
It was since determined that there was a very large jump up party with anywhere from 100 to 200 people at that location. Where evidently a significant fight broke out in the establishment and then spilled into the street. As the officers arrived at the scene, we also had significant units from our SRG, our group up here this evening. They encountered a male suspect and pursued him.
As back-up units arrived, the officers engaged in a gunfight during which Police Officer Stewart was struck in the right ankle. He returned gunfire, striking the male suspect four times.
A 380-semi-automatic firearm was recovered at the scene. Three additional firearms have been recovered during subsequent searches of the area around 137 Street and in the establishment.
The injured police officer was moved here to Lincoln Hospital. We want to thank the staff at Lincoln Hospital for the quick attention to the officer's injuries where he is in stable condition.
He has been joined by his family. Family members, mother, brother, a number of brothers. His father is a detective in this department, who is currently on active duty with the U.S. Army. And so it is a police family.
Coincidentally, today is the fourth anniversary of the officer's appointment to the New York City Police Department. The suspect who was shot at the scene was also taken here to Lincoln Hospital. He is listed in serious condition at this time at the hospital.
The suspect is 19-year-old man, Christopher Rice. Our preliminary investigation indicates this suspect has a current history of five prior arrests over the last several years, including arrests just yesterday, 9:00 a.m. yesterday morning from a charge of (inaudible), a charge in which he was released from court at 11:00 p.m. last night.
Three hours before the shooting involving our police officer. As of this point, at this point, five additional stabbing victims have been taken to local hospitals in connection with the initial fight that prompted the 911 calls.
This matter is still in the early stages of investigation. Our police officer, as I mentioned, is 25 years old, unmarried. He is upstairs with his family.
And he was appointed as I mentioned for the department exactly four years ago. So he has quite an anniversary date. With that, I'd like to introduce the mayor of our city, Mayor Bill De Blasio.
MAYOR BILL DE BLASIO, NEW YORK: Thank you, Commissioner. Thank you very much. Well, Commissioner Bratton, I visited with Officer Sharod Stewart and his family. What an impressive young man that went into this dangerous situation and handled themselves so well.
A group of officers from the 40 Precinct responding with great backup from the strategic response group. This young man, as you heard, just four years on the job. He already has a very, very impressive career in terms of the work he's done of getting to the anti-crime unit.
He had distinguished himself already in this situation he distinguished himself further with quick thinking and his brave actions and thank God his injuries are not life-threatening.
Again as you heard from the commissioner, a police family, his dad a detective. His family very, very committed to this city in every way and it's very, very impressive to see this family and their closeness and all they have done for all of us. Their commitment to all of us.
[06:15:05]And the family was gathered around to support him and everyone realizes, thank God, he will be well soon. But the fact is, backup came quick his fellow officers did all the right things to subdue these criminals.
This is obviously a large group of people in a fight. NYPD officers handled the situation, diffused the situation, got the guns, and as you heard, won the day.
We want to thank everyone here at Lincoln Hospital. We want to thank Dr. (inaudible, the CEO, all the people here at the hospital who have responded so well.
PAUL: All right, so again, you are looking there at Mayor Bill De Blasio, who we do not normally see in a press conference at 6:00 on a Saturday morning, which indicates something serious had happened.
And you just heard there, one officer shot, five more stabbing victims in the hospital. Tom Fuentes with us right now, CNN law enforcement analyst.
Tom, we know that the New York Police Department was already on alert because of the police officer that was shot in Philadelphia yesterday. What do you make of this situation here?
They did not make any, we should point out, indications that this was terrorist related at all. Do you think they came out today to make certain that that was very clear?
TOM FUENTES, CNN LAW ENFORCEMENT ANALYST: I think so, Christi, because yesterday they put out a bulletin in New York about, you know, being on alert and being ready for anything that might happen terrorist-related in the aftermath of the Philadelphia police officer being ambushed.
So, they already would have expected tremendous attention to this event, wondering, is it terrorism or not? It certainly sounds at this point like this is almost just another routine day in the life of New York City PD because this is the type of thing that happens all the time.
These parties, people on the street, guns, knives, stabbings, police officers try to break it up, they get hurt. They get shot. Unfortunately, that's almost the normal activity on a weekend in New York and many of our big cities.
So, but the fact that it follows so closely after the events in Philadelphia is why it's getting the attention and why I think the mayor and the commissioner felt they needed to come forward. PAUL: Yes, get in front of cameras today just to make that known. Tom Fuentes, thank you so much. Tom will stick around with us too because we do have some more to talk to you about. Thank you, Tom, regarding that officer who was shot in Philadelphia and some news there this morning.
BLACKWELL: Including we will talk to Tom about the two men from the Middle East living in two different U.S. cities arrested for terror- related charges. We will talk about how these cases are now connected.
Plus, outrage in Michigan over lead-contaminated water. A family is talking now about how they have been impacted as a result.
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BLACKWELL: It's 21 minutes after the hour now. Two Iraqi refugees in two states arrested on terror charges, Omar Faraj Saeed Al Hardan in Houston and Aws Mohammed Younis Al-Jayab of Sacramenta.
We are now finding out that they were in contact with one another. Both are accused of pledging to help fight for ISIS. Take a look at a key exchange between the two.
According to a law enforcement source, Hardan in Texas says to Jayab in California, quote, "I need to learn from your weapon expertise."
Jayab replies, "We will make your abilities very strong. Our concern now is only to arrive there. When you arrive to al-Sham (Syria), you will be trained."
But a Houston man's family says they have no idea what's going on. They say Al-Hardan could not have been involved with ISIS. Watch.
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HANEEN AL KOKISS, SUSPECT'S WIFE: I'm not going to (inaudible) my husband and my son did not (inaudible) he just cry.
UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER (voice-over): Haneen Al Kokiss was blindsided by her husband's arrests. The 18-year-old says Omar Al Hardan left their southwest Houston apartment yesterday to answer FBI questions and never returned. Federal agents then knocked on their front door.
KOKISS: (Inaudible) and I don't know why.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Al Hardan is charged with helping the Islamic State. The 24-year-old illegal resident who came to the U.S. as an Iraqi refugee in 2009 made his first court appearance today.
The government also says he committed perjury, lying on his citizenship application, denying he was affiliated with a terrorist organization and also denied heavy weapons training.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: These are serious charges and we anticipate that the evidence will support all of the allegations that we made in this case.
UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Al Kokiss and Al Hardan have been married two years. They have a ten-month-old boy. His last job was as a limousine drivers. Prosecutors told the courts, he did odd jobs. He has two sisters in Jordan, his parents and three brothers are all in the U.S.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They work with ISIS. Nobody likes ISIS.
UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: The family says they were grateful to leave war-torn Iraq for the U.S. Al Hardan's wife just wants to see him in person.
KOKISS: He is innocent. He loves America. I love America too.
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PAUL: And we want to thank our affiliate there for that Jayab, the second suspect we should point out may have traveled to Syria to fight. Authorities say he talked about this on social media.
Now several of his family members have also been arrested charged with trying to move stolen phones and computers across state line.
So let's talk about this with Tom Fuentes, CNN law enforcement analyst. Tom, I have to think that these suspicion these stolen phones are connected to terrorism in some way. Would that be safe to say?
FUENTES: It would be safe to say that's a part of the investigation. Why would they be taking those phones and selling them if it wasn't a part of their idea to hide what they're doing from authorities.
PAUL: We talked about the communication via social media. Do you know -- has there been any ability to disrupt that part of ISIS' recruitment because we know it's so strong?
FUENTES: No, it's almost impossible and this is something, you know, the FBI and intelligence community have been working on for years. How can they isolate the messages that come out? Right now just on Twitter, they put out 40,000 messages a day. It's been difficult for them to find the exact source and the exact ability to surgically take that off the internet without the rest of the damage that would be done. Unfortunately, they're not able to stop it at this point.
PAUL: Tom, how plausible is it that someone would be pledging online to fight ISIS and family members would have absolutely no knowledge of what was going on?
[06:25:05]FUENTES: Well, it's very common. If the person thought that the family wouldn't be supportive of the idea, especially a young wife with a young baby and other members of the family, it would not be. It happens in case after case, where a family is completely unaware until the person is gone.
PAUL: All right, Tom Fuentes, we always appreciate your insight. Thank you for being with us.
FUENTES: You are welcome.
BLACKWELL: All right, it's 25 minutes after the hour. Let's take a look at some stories that we are following.
An airliner was forced to make an emergency stop after a woman allegedly attacked a flight attendant. Witnesses tell CNN affiliate, WXYZ, the passengers jumped in action and restrained the woman on the floor until the Chicago bound flight landed in Detroit. That woman was taken into police custody.
Two men with knives stormed into an Egyptian hotel and attacked at least three guests there that's according to country's Ministry of Interior. Security forces reportedly killed one suspect and injured the other. Two victims were taken to the hospital. Their condition unknown right now, but the motive for the attack also unclear.
The protesters who took over that federal building in Southeast Oregon did not accept the, quote, "Peaceful resolution offer." The sheriff's office says roughly 20 member group rejected their offer for safe passage out of the state. Officials have not said if they will file criminal charges against them.
PAUL: Ahead on NEW DAY, continuing coverage of our top story, the recapture of Mexican drug lord, El Chapo. Returning we have learned this morning to the same prison from which he escaped. Will he be coming to the U.S. is what everyone wants to know.
Plus, a Muslim woman is making headlines after she gets ejected from Donald Trump's event last night. What did she do? Was it fair for police to escort her out?
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BLACKWELL: New details this morning on the breaking news on El Chapo's capture in Mexico. The Sinaloa cartel drug lord was captured in a daring raid and is now back in prison. Officials say five suspects were killed and six others arrested during that raid. El Chapo escaped as you remember last July from the from the Altiplano prison through an underground tunnel.
PAUL: A Muslim woman wearing a hijab was kicked out of a Donald Trump rally in South Carolina last night. Rose Hamid stood up in silent protest when the Republican frontrunner linked Syrian refugee to ISIS. She said nothing, we should point out.
Trump supporters pointed, shouted at her, until police took her out.
[06:30:02] Despite her early exit, Hamid told CNN, "Sometimes supporters around her hand and said they were sorry that she was forced to leave."
BLACKWELL: And this morning, there are new details about the man who allegedly tried to assassinate a Philadelphia police officer in the name of the Islamic State.
PAUL: Officials say they're now looking at a possible terror ties as they announce the suspect; 30-year-old Edward Archer. Here's his picture. He made two trips to the Middle East.
BLACKWELL: The FBI says Archer made trips to Saudi Arabia in 2011, and then a trip to Egypt in 2012.
PAUL: Meanwhile the officer who was shot, Jesse Hartnett is recovering in a Philadelphia hospital following that attack. Officials are telling CNN he's facing multiple surgeries. He was shot three times. His left elbow shattered by one of those bullets.
Miguel Marquez following this story live in Philadelphia for us this morning. Good morning, Miguel. What have you learned?
MIGUEL MARQUEZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, well, police are looking into those two trips to the Middle East as well as everything else about Mr. Archer. He told police that he did it because he pledged allegiance to ISIS. He also said that he did this because we believes in Allah. And that's why he shot this officer.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: All cars stand by, we have an officer shot.
MARQUEZ (voice-over): A horrifying scene in Philadelphia. That's 30- year-old Edward Archer say police brandishing a 9 millimeter semiautomatic handgun, firing into the police car of 33-year-old police officer Jesse Hartnett. Archer moves to the window, the gun inside the car firing at least 11 shots, hitting the officer three times in the left arm.
HARTNETT: It's an officer (ph). I just lost (ph) (INAUDIBLE). I'm shot. I'm bleeding heavily.
MARQUEZ: Incredibly, the police officer not only survived, he chased his attacker down, shooting him in the butt, and stopping him all while bleeding profusely. His left arm unusable; speaking to the dispatcher, all at the same time.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: So, we have an officer down.
COMMISSIONER RICHARD ROSS: He had the grace of God just first and foremost. But - because I can't explain it based on my beliefs in any other way. But under those circumstances, man, I can't imagine that almost anything that you could have could protect you.
That is chilling, absolutely chilling when you watch that. And if that doesn't just make the hairs on your neck just raise; when you see that, it's scary.
MARQUEZ: Police say the attacker used a handgun stolen from police in 2013, and confessed he was inspired by ISIS.
CAPTAIN JAMES CLARK: He pledges his allegiance to Islamic State. He follows Allah. And that is the reason he was called upon to do this.
MARQUEZ: Authorities now digging into the life and past of 30-year- old Edward Archer.
ROSS: According to him, he believes that the police defend laws that are contrary to the teachings of the Koran.
MARQUEZ: FBI searching through properties related to Archer, trying to determine just how deeply, if at all he's tied to international terror groups.
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MARQUEZ: Now what is not clear is whether there is any real ties or whether it was all just a figment of his imagination. This could be just a lone wolf situation. Somebody who saw this stuff, and did this.
His mother speaking to the Philadelphia Inquirer said that he suffered mental problems. That he had been speaking to himself lately. That he had been mumbling a lot and that he blamed the police for targeting him.
So, it's not clear yet just the extent to which this is a real, you know, individual who was inspired by ISIS. Or, whether or not this is just a figment of his imagination. Back to you.
BLACKWELL: Yes, Miguel, Christi and Tom are going to talk about that interview and that element of the story in just a moment. But quickly is there any indication that anyone inside the U.S. was closely involved with Archer; and would have been involved with this attack?
MARQUEZ: Well, I mean, again and that's exactly what they're looking into. And there is no indication of that. It's not clear whether this is a figment of his imagination or whether there is any tie to anybody in the U.S. or outside of it.
BLACKWELL: Miguel, thank you so much. Christi? PAUL: All right and let's bring in CNN legal analyst and former FBI assistant director, Tom Fuentes. Tom, let's tackle that first. What he was just talking about, the mother saying he heard voice in his head.
Something was strange, she told the Philadelphia Inquirer. How do authorities determine whether this was indeed terrorism? Because he did travel, they have - they've been able to discern - to the Middle East. Or, if this is somebody who just has a mental instability?
TOM FUENTES, CNN LEGAL ANALYST: Well first, Christi, the travel to the Middle East will be investigated. The FBI has offices in Cairo, Egypt and Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, and work closely with the authorities there. So, they'll be giving them the leads to look into who he met with and what activities he may have engaged in while he was in those countries.
Locally, you know, you saw the searches of going into his computers and trying to recover things from where he lived. And they'll be looking at was he communicating with other people? Did he express this kind of ideology to others, either in social media, or in direct e-mail, texting, phone messages, or at least ties to a known group?
So, that part of it will be looked into. The fact that he may be mentally ill, you know, in a way don't you question the sanity of most of the people that want to join ISIS? So, you know, that's not a mutually exclusive thing that you could be mentally ill, and a member of ISIS, or a want to be member of ISIS.
PAUL: OK, let's get to one of the elements of this that clearly was very disturbing to the police commissioner yesterday when he was talking about it. The fact that the gun he used was a police officer's gun. It was stolen back in 2013. How do police try to discern and decipher where he got the gun? Is he the one that stole it? Did he get it from somebody else? How does that all play out?
FUENTES: Well, that's what they'll be looking at. But that's going to be very difficult. If he didn't steal it, whoever stole it, and maybe took it to a pawn shop. Or, sold it directly to other friends, or gang members, or whatever it might have been, you know, we don't know all of the hands it went through before that gun ended up in his hands.
Now, he may talk about where he got it. He may not. But if he doesn't, it's going to be very difficult to trace it to being anywhere once it left the home that it was stolen from.
PAUL: All right, Tom Fuentes, thank you so much, sir. We appreciate it as always.
FUENTES: You're welcome.
PAUL: OK.
BLACKWELL: Ahead on NEW DAY (ph), one year after the Charlie Hebdo terror attacks in Paris, French President Hollande unveils a plaque for a police officer killed during the massacre. We'll take you there.
Also ahead, North Korea on the heels of its nuclear test. We'll take you inside the secretive nation. CNN is the only American news organization operating there. That's ahead in our next hour.
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PAUL: It's 6:39 right now. And in just a few hours, Paris is going to be honoring the victims of a terror attack at a kosher supermarket last year. And just moments ago, in fact, French President Hollande unveiled a plaque in their memory.
BLACKWELL: Dozens of people turned out to remember those who were killed. CNN correspondent, Erin McLaughlin joins us now live from Paris. And Erin, this is a reminder that the attacks in January of 2015 did not end on the day of that shooting of Charlie Hebdo. Tell us about today's ceremony.
ERIN MCLAUGHLIN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hi, Christi and Victor. Well, it was a somber emotional ceremony to remember a fallen police officer. Clarissa Jean-Philippe was just 25 years old when she stopped Amedy Coulibaly in the Paris suburb of Montrouge.
She stopped him after a near accident. That is when he opened fire on her, killing her. And then, he tried to open fire on her colleague. His gun jammed. Then he managed to get away.
Today, French President Francois along with other dignitaries and other police officers, her family gathered to remember her. They unveiled a plaque with her name on it. They also renamed the main thoroughfare in Montrouge in her honor.
And now, later today, there will be yet another ceremony, this time at the kosher supermarket where Amedy Coulibaly opened fire, killing four individuals before security forces killed him. And really, people here in France are still struggling a year later to come to terms with just this tremendous loss; at the same time, dealing with what authorities say is a very real prospect of more terror for this country.
BLACKWELL: And let me ask you while we have you just a few moments more. What changes have you see across Paris as it relates to the security challenges there?
After Charlie Hebdo, of course, there were the Bataclan attacks where so many people were killed in that theater, and on the one year anniversary of Charlie Hebdo. That person trying to go in with a knife at the police station.
MCLAUGHLIN: Well, we of course, have seen in the wake of these attacks, this heightened security presence. In fact, just this week, French President Francois Hollande announcing that they're going to increase that security presence by some 5,000 additional security forces throughout the country.
But in addition to that, the government is also taking just extraordinary measures in the wake of the Charlie Hebdo attacks, they passed legislation increasing the government's ability to monitor and surveil people electronically.
The country now in a state of emergency following the Paris attacks in November; which gives the government really extraordinary powers. Police can now go into houses without arrest warrants, and conduct searches. And in February, the government is expected to put forward yet more legislation giving them more powers to conduct more surveillance.
All of this, of course, happening in a country that takes pride in its civil liberties. But people here that I've been speaking to very much of the opinion that these - this is necessary in order to try and prevent further terror.
BLACKWELL: All right, Erin McLaughlin there for us in Paris. Lots of challenges, but the city, the country as we know is resilient. Thank you so much.
PAUL: All righty, coming up for you here. Men, women, children in Michigan may have been drinking toxic water for more than a year. A disturbing report out of Flint, Michigan to tell you about. Also, what are your chances, really?
I mean, as you sit there and hold your lottery ticket. What are the chances you're going to win the nation's biggest lottery pay off ever? We'll break it down.
BLACKWELL: We'll talk about that in just a moment. But first, this week's culinary journeys take us to Denmark to meet a chef whose innovative dishes have turned his restaurant into one of the world's best. Take a look at what separates his cooking style from other top chefs.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Copenhagen, the Danish capital often held as the standard bearer of green living is also at the forefront of the New Nordic Cuisine. The undisputed king of the local culinary scene is Noma. And its creative force, two (ph) (INAUDIBLE) star chef, Remy Redzepi.
REMY REDZEPI: To me, walking into Noma is like stepping away from reality in a sense. You have this (INAUDIBLE) about (INAUDIBLE) where people are pushing. And I have this energy.
We're working towards food, a better plate, and to understand how to cook in this region, exploring the seasonality, and exploring the ingredients. Trying to find new flavors, trying to build a new tradition.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: By pioneering the notion of foraging, Redzepi has revolutionized Nordic cuisine using raw seasonal ingredients that are plucked directly from the wild landscapes of the north.
REDZEPI: It was really an amazing discovery to actually see the food stuff that's around you. And connect yourself to every single root and every single berry, and every single tree in figuring out how do - how does this taste? How do you cook with it?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You can probably (ph) (INAUDIBLE) seven (ph), please.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, (INAUDIBLE).
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE)?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Pushing the boundaries of cooking, the chef encourages creativity, experimenting with flavors that are distilled into unique seemingly simple creations.
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BLACKWELL: All right, watch the full show at CNN dot com slash journeys (ph).
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PAUL: Just think about this for a minute. Imagine, if you discovered that the water you and your family, you and your children drink every day has been poisoning you.
There is a state of emergency that's been declared for thousands of people in Michigan after researchers discovered toxic levels of lead in the water supply there. CNN's Sara Ganim has the latest.
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RHONDA KELSO: I'm paying for poison. I'm paying for water that's a toxic waste.
SARA GANIM, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Rhonda Kelso and her 12-year-old daughter are among the residents of Flint whose blood levels tested high for lead after the city switched its water source. In an attempt to cut costs, city officials stopped getting pretreated water from the city of Detroit in 2014, and instead began using water from the nearby Flint River.
KELSO: The water would come in brown and not - And my daughter was like mom, you know, the tub, you know, to take a bath. So, why is the water brown?
GANIM: The problem was that the Flint River is 19 times more corrosive than Lake Huron, Detroit's water source, according to researchers at Virginia's Tech (ph). And the city wasn't treating it according to federal law. Lead pipes began to corrode leaching into the water.
MONA HANNA-ATTISHA, Ph.D.: If you were to put something in a population to keep them down for a generation and generations to come, it would be lead. GANIM: Dr. Mona Hanna-Attisha is a pediatrician at Flint's Hurley
Children's Hospital.
HANNA-ATTISHA: It is a well-known potent mineral toxin. There's tons of evidence on what lead does to a chid. And it is one of the most damning things that you can do to a population. It drops your I.Q. It affects your behavior. It's been linked to criminality. It has multi-generational impacts. There is no safe level of lead in a child.
GANIM: After hearing her patients complain about water that looked, and smelled, and tasted funny, she decided to investigate. Using publicly available data on lead levels in children in Flint, she found the percentage of lead in kids doubled, even tripled in some places after the water switch.
HANNA-ATTISHA: When we saw it. When we saw that it was getting into children. And when we knew the consequences of it, I think that's, I think when we began not to sleep.
GANIM: Here's how this happened. The corrosive Flint River water goes from the plant to the water mains, to the service lines, to home. In Flint, the water mains are made of iron; which turned some of the water brown and half of the service lines, and pipes in Flint homes are made of lead.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm guilty (ph) (INAUDIBLE) lead (ph) (INAUDIBLE).
GANIM: For at least a year, city officials, city and state officials denied anything was wrong. The former Mayor Dane Walling publicly drank the water to make a statement.
MAYOR DANE WALLING: In retrospect, I regret all of it, all of the way back to seeing the city move to a different drinking water source. Because there's just - you can't put a dollar amount on the devastation to our community, our kids. It was completely avoidable.
GANIM: Sara Ganim, CNN, Flint, Michigan.
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PAUL: CNN legal analyst, Joey Jackson with us now. So, Joey, Governor Rick Snyder said he's, quote - he's sorry for the, "unfortunate situation." You saw there protestors wanting him to lose his job. They want charges to be brought. Where does the liability fall here? Is it on the state? Is it on the county?
JOEY JACKSON, CNN LEGAL ANALYST: You know, good morning, Christi. And first of all, public emergency. You're talking about children with great levels of lead in addition to everyone else. And it can have severe effects. So the issue then becomes really three-fold.
You're looking at a political issue in terms of his resignation. And did he act responsibly as a public official should to protect the health and welfare of the public? The next question then becomes is there any criminality involved?
But then, the final question is one of civil liability for anyone (ph) who may have been injured. And talking about the first one first; politics, that will take care of itself. In the event that he didn't do his job, then there are repercussions.
But getting into the criminal and civil elements, here is what we can talk about. Civilly, the problem becomes one of what's called sovereign immunity. And that means that when you have a public official, in his instance the governor.
And it's my understanding that there was a city manager appointed in that particular community to work and oversee the Mayor and his officials. Decisions need to be made. And so, the way sovereign immunity works civilly is though - although people want to sue the state because of the misdeeds of the negligence and gross negligence of the state, in many instances, they're forbidden.
In fact, Michigan like other states has a statute on sovereign immunity that says you can't sue the state absent really emergency and exigent circumstances. There are exceptions, if you could establish just some gross departure for the norm. But as you can imagine, that's there so that public officials can do their jobs in a discretionary capacity.
PAUL: Sure, but did this fall into it?
JACKSON: - Maybe poorly - well -
PAUL: Does this -? I mean, does this - is this an open door for a charge like that or no?
JACKSON: That's the bigger question. Because what the governor is going to say is that he acted in good faith upon reliance of information that he had at that time. And if he was merely negligent in doing so, then; you know, office holders are negligent every day. And you can't bring down a locality, municipality, or state due to negligence of its officers.
The other question on the other side is going to be wait, this wasn't simple negligence. This was gross negligence. This was something that you knew or really should have known that affected so many people. But we're far away from that.
That's going to rely upon discovery. Were there e-mail communications? Were there exchanges? What did the governor know? When did he know it? At what point did he understand that it was a public emergency? Did he declare it too late? And did he act in good faith? And then, of course, Christi, it goes to the other issue, which is criminality. And that would depend upon whether there was any misconduct in office.
PAUL: All right.
JACKSON: What, if any misconduct that engaged in that would rise to the criminal level? And for that, you just have to show a corrupt intent. And so, that's a very high standard.
PAUL: All right, well, hey, Joey, thank you for breaking it down for us. At the end of the day, you just feel for all of those folks, and what they can be dealing with. (INAUDIBLE) again long term effects from that exposure to the lead.
JACKSON: Exactly.
PAUL: Joey, thank you so much. I appreciate it.
JACKSON: Thank you, Christi.
BLACKWELL: All right, up next, El Chapo, the stunning capture and the return to the same prison from which he escaped so many months ago. We'll go to Mexico City for an update.
And the game that's getting between you and your good hard earned $2.00; Powerball $800 million jackpot.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I'm going to take care of my family. That's the number one priority, and keep moving everybody out of the rough neighborhood we are staying in. That's the number one.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We're all optimistic that any one of us could win at any time with any number. And why not me?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Eight hundred million, it - that's a long shot, but hey. You don't know, if you don't try.
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BLACKWELL: What is that music?
PAUL: That's good advice. I don't know what the music is.
BLACKWELL: The first thing I'm buying if I win $800 million is CNN a new music band (ph) for the Powerball story. That was horrible. All right, let's get to the scripts.
PAUL: You know what? Doesn't he just - does (ph) it like we all are talking about it here when you aren't listening.
BLACKWELL: All right, and the big game of the week, you know, is not football, but the lottery. Record breaking Powerball jackpot getting even bigger now at $800 million, making it the largest jackpot in U.S. history.
PAUL: So, if you take the lump sum, $496 million after taxes, but you only have a roughly one in 292 million chance of actually winning.
BLACKWELL: So, you're saying there's a chance?
PAUL: It - David (ph), that is the line -
BLACKWELL: There's a chance.
PAUL: That my husband always says that to me. So, he says there's a chance.
BLACKWELL: Yes.
PAUL: Well (ph), I won't say what he asked about. But Andy Scholes is here to break it down for us because I know you have lots of questions about it. And the numbers really are fascinating.
ANDY SCHOLES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: They are. They are. And, so believe it or not, some numbers show up more often than others. So, if are you looking for a strategy other than prayer, you know, there's something you could do.
BLACKWELL: Yes.
SCHOLES: Like pick the number 26 to be drawn. Because it's actually been drawn, as you can see, 266 times; which is a little bit more than all of the other numbers that are out there. And of course, when we talk about the lottery, we always like to talk about the odds of what could happen to you other than winning the lottery?
Or, the better odds of what would happen; being struck by lightening one in 164,000 something. Drowning in one in 1,113, and actually being struck by lightening while drowning; you have a better chance of that happening to you than winning the lottery.
PAUL: What?
SCHOLES: Yes, some other things out there - give birth to quadruplets, one in 729,000. Hit by an asteroid, one in 700,000; I've actually never heard of someone being hit by an asteroid. So, I'm going to actually say you have a better chance of winning Powerball than that happening to you.
