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Twenty Six Dead In West Virginia Flooding; E.U.: Urgent For U.K. To Appoint New Prime Minister; Trump Makes Second Stop In Scotland; Trump: There Are "Parallels" Between U.K. Vote, U.S.; 26 Dead in West Virginia Flooding, Jill Stein Also Aims to be First Woman President, Obama: "Special Relationship" Will Not Change, How Britain's Divorce From the EU Impacts America, European Union Leaders Discuss Next Steps. Aired 8-9a ET
Aired June 25, 2016 - 08:00 ET
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: -- I've never seen it this bad. People lost their houses and people lost their life too. It's bad. It's terrible.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And unfortunately, we do anticipate that you know, that this death toll could go higher.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: People were running. They were jumping in their cars and just going to watch everything go up in flames. The whole thing was just surreal.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think we -- we see the consequences already.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Britain's stunning decision to break away from Europe creating chaos and panic around the world. Stocks hammered with the biggest drop in nearly five years.
DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: People want to take their country back. I do believe that and I think it's happening in the United States.
BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: One thing that will not change is the special relationship that exists between our two nations.
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CHRISTI PAUL, CNN ANCHOR: Wishing you a good morning on this Saturday. I'm Christi Paul.
VICTOR BLACKWELL, CNN ANCHOR: I'm Victor Blackwell. Good to be with you. We're starting with two breaking news stories this hour. First, the massive wildfire that's scorching Southern California. At least two people are dead and it's now burned through more than 30,000 acres.
Firefighters only have about five percent of the perimeter of this fire contained. CNN just obtained this video. It's raw video of the wildfire. You can see just the damage here that is left behind. Homes, other buildings burned to ashes, just whispers of the structures left. Hundreds in the area have been able to escape. That's the good news, but there are concerns that some people may be trapped.
PAUL: We'll keep you focused on that as well. But also this news out of West Virginia, historic flooding has killed now at least 26 people there. That death toll went up just in the last hour.
Among victims, two young boys who were swept away by raging waters in Jackson County. Rescues, we understand, are still underway even at this hour.
Now, overnight crews finished a temporary road that finally allowed 500 people to get out of that shopping center there. They'd been stranded in that center since Thursday.
Dozens of other people had to be plucked off their roof tops as the water rose higher and higher. You see it here and how fast moving it is as well.
Brynn Gingras is live in a town of (inaudible) about an hour northeast of Charleston. Good morning.
BRYNN GINGRAS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning to you, Christi and Victor. We're sort of sandwiched in between a creek and the Elk River and both just overflowed into where we're starting right now. I want to give you an idea of just how high the water got. This is the water mark on a restaurant right by us --
PAUL: And we apologize for that. Obviously having some issues. Do we have her back? OK. We have her back. Let's go. No, we don't. I apologize. I said we did. We don't. We're going to continue to try to get Brynn back and get a good sense of what's happening there at this hour.
So the rescues are continuing and I want to show you this video too that we've gotten in because it's hard to wrap your head around the fact that that is a house on fire that is floating on water because of these floods.
BLACKWELL: There are reports that this is not then only house that was on fire in these flood waters, that there were others in this situation. This is the video that we have, but it's really difficult to get this out of your mind. People who don't know where their houses are, where the remnants of their homes even are at this hour.
PAUL: And you've never seen anything like that.
BLACKWELL: The breaking number this morning, the number of dead from 23 to 26 in just the last hour as there are of course these concerns of getting people out of these areas where they've been trapped. As Christi just said, 500 people fortunately were able to be rescued.
PAUL: Green Briar Resort, we understand, very popular resort is closed. The PGA Tour event there is supposedly coming up in less than a couple of weeks so they're watching that as well. So we will continue to watch this. We'll try to get that live shot back up for you here in just a bit.
But let's talk about also what is happening overseas. Leaders in Europe scrambling to determine what comes next as the United Kingdom is rocked by their vote to leave the European Union.
BLACKWELL: Prime Minister David Cameron says he will be out by October, but the European Union says they want him out sooner. Core leaders of the E.U., France and Germany, say there's no need for hysteria, but the divorce needs to start now.
Clarissa Ward joins now from London. Clarissa, this is a surprise. Prime Minister Cameron said that the U.K. would need these months for a smooth transition.
CLARISSA WARD, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Right. Well, I think there's a bit of a difference of opinion now between European leaders and British leaders. Germany's leaders say that now is the time to show that the European Union can deliver concrete results, but that that starts with Great Britain moving quickly.
And Germany says that if changes are to be made in the wake of this vote, there's no need to rush, but as far as the U.K. divorce from the E.U., they say that process needs to get underway right now.
[08:05:12]And here's Germany's foreign minister. He was speaking just moments ago.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): London also has a responsibility that is wider than just Great Britain. This is why we join and say this process needs to start as soon as possible.
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WARD: Well, France is another core member of the European Union with a major voice in how the E.U. will proceed, but that country could face a similar movement to what the U.K. just saw.
Will Ripley joins us live now from Paris. Will, could there be another referendum?
WILL RIPLEY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, that's certainly not what the socialist government here wants. And in fact, we just received word, Clarissa, that about 5 minutes ago at 2:00 p.m. local time French President Francois Hollande began meetings at the (inaudible), which is the French equivalent of the White House.
He's meeting with party leaders from across the country including Marine Le Pen, the head of the National Front Party, that's the far right populist party, very popular in the rural areas outside of Paris.
These are people who are unhappy with the European Union and would be more inclined to support a referendum and perhaps vote for France to follow suit, a for Frexit, if you will, is the term that's now being thrown around here.
Obviously, the socialist government, which has put out very strong statements ahead of Brexit and afterwards that this is bad for Europe. That it weakens the unity of Europe. They are now trying to make the case to people here in France that look, we can fix things. We can make this system work better for you.
We're finally paying attention and listening, but any changes as you know we were talking about a big bureaucracy involving currently 27 member countries. It's going to take a very long time and of course, people want to see what kind of a deal Britain gets out of this, which is why, Clarissa, French officials are saying that the Brexit, the divorce, needs to happen as quickly as possible to avoid more uncertainty.
WARD: Clearly the British disagree. Thank you very much. Will Ripley in Paris. We'll be covering the aftershocks of this seismic event from all angles later in the show, but for now, Christi and Victor, back to you in Atlanta.
PAUL: All righty, Clarissa, we appreciate it. Thank you.
BLACKWELL: Thank you so much.
The British vote may be stirring up feelings of deja vu for some. What you're hearing and seeing out of Europe has parallels to and with what Donald Trump has said here in the U.S. What are his supporters and voters who were for the U.K. leaving the European Union have in common?
PAUL: Also voters may be surprised to know there's more than one person aiming to become the first female president of the United States. We're speaking with Jill Stein of the Green Party.
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PAUL: Donald Trump is making a second stop of his Scottish tour this time, visiting his golf course in Aberdeen, likely to be a chilly reception, we understand. He fought homeowners in that area over the property's development. Some even flying Mexican flags trying to rile up the Republican candidate.
Sara Murray is joining us live from Scotland. Sara, what can we expect?
SARA MURRAY, CNN POLITICAL REPORTER: Well, Donald Trump is visiting another one of his properties today. He's getting ready to leave here in Turnberry to go over to Aberdeen and like you said, that's a property that's been much more contentious. He's had fights with nearby landowners.
It will be at least the tenth Donald Trump property we visited throughout his campaign. He has a tendency to hold campaign events, press conferences, media appearances with the backdrop of his own properties right behind him.
But he has been catching a little bit flak for the way he's been handling such monumental occasion. Obviously the U.K. voted to leave the European Union and Donald Trump was here in Turnberry doing a ribbon cutting and just days ago he said he hasn't given much thought to the Brexit.
And in a press conference yesterday, he said he's been in touch with his foreign policy advisors, but there's just not all that much to talk about. So he's certainly giving a different impression than what we're used to seeing from presidential candidates who go on these foreign trips.
Traditionally, you do this because you want to appear to be a statesman, appear to be ready to take over the presidency and you want to show that you have a little bit of foreign policy knowledge. Donald Trump has taken a very different tactic.
PAUL: All right. Sara, yes, indeed. Thank you so much. We appreciate it -- Victor.
BLACKWELL: Well, Donald Trump said that he was in favor of Brexit, so it shouldn't be a surprise that his backers have a lot in common with British voters who supported the U.K. leaving the European Union. A look at the parallels between the two that's coming up next.
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BLACKWELL: All right. Live pictures here. Donald Trump leaving the Turnberry course there in Scotland. He's been there for several days. Of course, we watched that news conference there from Turnberry as he opened this golf course, discussing the facilities and discussing the Brexit vote. We'll talk about that in just a second with two of our analysts with us.
But Americans watching the British vote may have found some of the arguments a bit similar. Watch.
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NIGEL FARAGE, MEMBER, EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT: We will win this war. We will get our country back.
DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: We can bring our country back bigger and better and stronger than ever before.
FARAGE: We can vote to take control of our country back. We can vote to get our borders back
TRUMP: We're going to have the wall.
FARAGE: I want us to live under British passports and under the British flag.
TRUMP: We're going to put America first and we're going to make great again.
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BLACKWELL: All right, campaigns for both Trump and the British leave voters have been defined by frustration with the political establishment, a strong sense of national pride, and a call for tighter immigration laws.
Let's about them now. Joined now by Trump supporter and co-founder of "Women Vote Trump," Amy Kremer is with us. We also have with us former Obama campaign staffer and Clinton supporter, Tharon Johnson. Good to have both of you back in studio.
Amy, I want to start with you in a video we saw that was released by the Clinton campaign after that news conference at Turnberry. Let's watch it.
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WARD: We are now in unprecedented territory.
TRUMP: Golfers will stop and they'll go and get something to eat and they go into the tenth hole.
JOHN BERMAN, CNN ANCHOR: The shock waves truly global, political and financial.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Are you traveling with any of your foreign policy advisors?
TRUMP: Well, I've been in touch with them, but there's nothing to talk about.
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BLACKWELL: Really on the day of the Brexit vote results, nothing to talk out?
AMY KREMER, TRUMP SUPPORTER: Well, I guess, he didn'twant to focus on that. I mean, you know --
BLACKWELL: But he's running for president.
KREMER: Yes, but he -- I mean, I'm sure he has said things. I mean, he released a statement and you know, is communicating with his supporters and I think that's what matters. I mean, I think that this is -- we need to look at what's coming for November is the point here, because it is very -- it feels very familiar.
The people are fed up with this political class and they do want to take their country back. I think, you know, Margaret Thatcher said it best when she said you know, the problem with socialism is you eventually run out of other people's money. The Brits were tired of giving their money away and they want control of their country. We all want do have control of our country and with this big globalist, the big Transpacific Trade deal, and, I mean, it's just -- let's focus on America. We have people here we need to focus on.
BLACKWELL: I understand that and I guess Donald Trump could have said all of that, but instead he said there's nothing to talk about. He could have talked about the impact on the U.S. Donald Trump says there's nothing to talk about. No need to bring the foreign policy advisors with him.
THARON JOHNSON, FORMER ADVISER TO ATLANTA MAYOR KASIM REED: The first thing Donald Trump need to do is get Amy on his campaign. You're exactly right, Victor. I mean, this guy took a trip to his lavish golf course and I'm a golfer, but at a time -- 20 minutes of that speech he spent talking about the ninth hole and the tenth hole and talked about this halfway house, sort of at the turn.
So what I think it showed is that this guy is not prepared to be president. I mean, as your reporter just stated, when people usually take these trips to countries that are our allies, they talk about how we can work together, they talk about how we can strengthen our global economy.
And I think President Obama said it best. Something like that in, you know, in Scotland and the U.K. will never happen in America because we're just, you know, very different in a lot of ways. But I think we've got to promote common stability, but again it just showed that Donald Trump is not ready to be president.
BLACKWELL: Live pictures of Donald Trump about to leave Turnberry. You're seeing that on the right side of your screen.
[08:20:07]Tharon, let me stay with you and potentially overplaying a hand here rhetorically. I was in Europe just a couple of weeks ago, I was watching the British press, reading their response to the Brexit referendum in the lead-up to the vote.
And many of the criticisms against the prime minister and the "remain" group was that they were fear mongering, trying to scare people and people recoiled from that rhetoric could possibly be that 3 percent that separated the remain from the leave campaign.
Is there a problem here or a lesson here I should say for the Clinton campaign in their response to Trump rhetorically not to overplay their hand in forecasting gloom and doom?
JOHNSON: Well, I think what the Clinton campaign did right away is that they showed the contrast with the commercial that you just showed. Again, at a time where we're a country promoting stability. I mean, look, the people in the U.K. are our allies. They are friend. We have a great working relationship with them.
And so I think the thing that we've got to be mindful of as Democrats, let's not forget, Victor this whole thing in the U.K. was fuelled by two things. It was fueled by immigration, by hatred and this whole thing about taking our country --
KREMER: I don't think hatred.
JOHNSON: It definite was. That's the striking parallel that you see over here in our country. But I think what we got to do is that listen, Donald Trump has done a really good job of firing up his space, but I think independent voters are going to frown on what he's been talking about.
BLACKWELL: You say not hatred. Your response to that.
KREMER: Yes, I don't think it's hatred. You want control of people coming into your country. You want to be in control of the economy and there's going to be plenty of time to talk about this. Look at the original Brexit when this country was formed you know, over 200 years ago and look at where we are now.
I think the people have risen up and said we don't want to do this anymore and at the end of the day, the government represents us. And when you talk about Hillary Clinton and saying that you know, her -- that Donald Trump's not ready to be commander-in-chief and foreign policy, I have to disagree.
I mean, look at where Hillary Clinton's foreign policy has gotten us. Look at what's going on in Syria and Libya and with Benghazi and you know, I don't think that she is the one -- I don't think that we're going to get anywhere with Hillary Clinton's foreign policy.
BLACKWELL: You say Hillary Clinton not ready to lead in foreign policy. Let's turn to the economy and Hank Polson (ph), former treasury secretary under President Bush backed Clinton in a "Washington Post" post op-ed.
He writes, "We are witnessing a populous hijacking of one of the United States great political parties. Enough is enough. It's time to put country before party and say it together, never Trump."
KREMER: I'm going to say something here and this is not going to go well with a lot of people, but the fact of the matter is that the American people and the Bernie supporters too are fed up with the political class as I've said and they want change.
They are tired of the establishment representing big business, and the lobbyists and that's exactly what happens. You know, look at NAFTA and what happened there.
I want to say something. And what happens is there's this -- there's Republicans that would really be OK with a Hillary Clinton presidency because they will keep the gravy train because Hillary Clinton is the establishment.
It doesn't matter what party she's in. It's the establishment and as long as the status quo remains, the money is going to continue to flow from the lobbyists and the big businesses and whatnot.
JOHNSON: Let me talk, Amy. Give me a second. I think what the former secretary is saying is exactly this. At a time where our country, what we just saw happened in the U.K. that Hillary Clinton is the best person to basically stabilize and have a good relationship with our allies.
Now this whole notion that Donald Trump is prepared, I mean, a guy who is basically, you know, Chapter 11 Donald Trump is better to talk about our economy and continue the job growth that President Obama has put forth.
I mean, let's not forget, during the Clinton years the middle class was booming. I think Amy will agree with that, but I think we're seeing to a point that she made earlier, I think we are sort of seeing an ultra-laziness from journalism, from a lot of the people who are just basically automatically saying look at what happened in the U.K. and this could happen in the U.S.
I mean, let's not forget to your point earlier. I mean, we succeeded from Britain many, many years ago and the fact is, let's get back to our root of immigration. A lot of people who migrate over into these countries they can't vote in America if there's a legal pathway to citizenship and to voting if these people can vote and I think they'll vote against Donald Trump in November.
KREMER: I disagree with you.
BLACKWELL: I know you disagree. That's the point of having both of you on together. Thank you both for being in studio -- Christi.
PAUL: It's always a great conversation. Thank you. And listen, still to come, the other woman running for president, Jill Stein of the Green Party joining us to talk about Trump, Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders and how she sees her own chances in November.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's the worst I've ever seen.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's crazy. In my 26 years I've never seen it this bad.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: People lost their houses and people lost their life too. It's terrible.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And unfortunately, we do anticipate that you know, that this death toll could go higher.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: People were running. They were jumping in their cars and just going to watch everything go up in flames. The whole thing was just surreal.
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BLACKWELL: Welcome back. I'm Victor Blackwell. Good to be with you.
PAUL: And I'm Christi Paul. So grateful for your company as always.
BLACKWELL: Brynn Gingras is live in the town of (inaudible) about an hour northeast of Charleston, West Virginia. The flooding there obviously quite severe. We lost her a few minutes ago because I'm sure the cables in the water there, give us an idea of what you're seeing around you.
GINGRASS: Yes, more like mud at this point, Victor. I'm in between a creek and the river, so we are really at the center point of where those two waters overflowed and just came right up into people's houses.
I want to show you the water mark which is what I was trying to show you before. I'm 5'7" and look how high this goes. This is well over 6 feet at this restaurant here. So this is how much water went into this restaurant.
And if we can actually go in here a little bit more you can see how all of this furniture inside got toss and turned by that water. Imagine that being in someone's home. That's exactly what we have been seeing a lot of.
We have some video to show you inside Ed Weaver's home and he was showing us all how the bedroom furniture was in the living room, how the living furniture was in the bedroom.
He came home to that and he says he doesn't know right now if it's more cost effective to tear his house down or just to sort of rebuild what he's got right now, so that's what people are sort of facing.
[08:31:27] Look at this here. Another example. This car, demolished. And there's probably about three dozen of these just in this parking lot alone. I can tell you at this point this morning, we are seeing a lot of people drive through this area. We have church groups that are setting up food for people, and people are just stunned. At this point, there isn't even emotion that they can grasp at this point because they are going from house to house to make sure their families, their friends are safe and just also see what damage has been caused. 26 deaths related to the storm, three were found in this county not far from where we're standing overnight, three people found in their homes dead. So this is a devastating storm and right now people are just grasping with the aftermath.
BLACKWELL: Yes, the loss is here far beyond far beyond property. Brynn Gingras, of course, there in Clendenin West Virginia. Thank you so much.
PAUL: 30 minutes past the hour. Many Democrats looking forward to nominating Hillary Clinton to become the first woman president. Clinton is not the only woman in the race though. Dr. Jill Stein is the presumed nominee of the Green Party. Promoting her candidacy is the best way to fix America's poltical and economic problems. She currently polls about 7% among registered voters. Her strategy is not to go after Hillary Clinton's liberal base but rather appeal to independents who are fed up with the system.
And Dr. Jill Stein joining us now from Watertown, Massachusetts. Doctor, thank you so much for taking the time to be here. I want to start with you --
DR. JILL STEIN, GREEN PARTY PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Great to be with you, Christi.
PAUL: Thank you. I want to start with you, regarding what's in the news, and headlining this morning is this Brexit vote. What do you see to be the biggest risk to the U.S. in this vote and how would you address it?
STEIN: Yes. So, I think the Brexit vote is a real wakeup call about the dangers of neoliberalism. Because the stresses that people are feeling in the UK are very similar to the stresses here. That is, an economy that's really put the bankers first, that puts profit over people. And people are seriously hurting and not only are they rejecting this really -- this economics of neoliberalism. People are rejecting it in that Brexit vote but they've also become vulnerable to the dangerous demagoguery that happens when people are very stressed and they are vulnerable to this blaming and finger pointing against immigrants who are really the victims themselves of the same neoliberal policies, basically the ilitarism that goes hand in hand with neoliberalism when you have regime change.
You know, we just heard last week that there are 65 million people who have been turned into refugees over the past year. Basically, from the policies of war that have everything to do with you U.S. policy. So it's important to connect the dots here. We need to roll back this militarism, but we also need to start putting people first and families first. Not Wall Street first. We need real jobs, we need living wages and health care and education.
PAUL: Are you saying that you would -- you want to shave back the military resources of the U.S.?
STEIN: In fact, you know, what we see is this war -- these wars for oil or war and terror, whatever you call it has actually made us less secure. Not more -- not more secure. It's cost us $6 trillion. That's $75,000 for every American household since 9/11. Yet, we are not more secure. We just keep creating more -- new and more terrible forms of terror. So, it's very important that we, I think, have a peace offensive. Doing more of the same isn't going to fix it. $6 trillion, a million people killed in Iraq and tens of thousands of U.S. soldiers killed and maimed. So we need a different policy -- we need to shut down the weapons' flow to the Middle East which is largely coming from the U.S. so we can control that weapons' flow and we can also freeze the bank accounts of the countries who are continuing to fund terrorism.
PAUL: OK. I know we could talk about that all day but I do want to get to a couple of other issues with you because we -- because we do have a limited amount of time here. Let's talk about Bernie Sanders. i'm wondering how you think you could entice some of his supporters. And do we have the full screen here? We have a comparison. The two of you really stand firmly together on many issues here. The only difference is your views on using military drones. Other than that when it comes to gun control and climate change gun control and climate change and college and education and banks. You are very similar. How can you entice, do you think some of those people who -- who with Bernie Sanders now say they will not vote for Hillary Clinton?
STEIN: That's exactly right. About half of Sanders supporters now are saying there's no way that they will abandon their revolution and go back into a counterrevolutionary party and a counterrevolutionary candidate who's basically been an advocate for Wall Street and war and the Walmart economy. So this is actually happening by itself and it's not something that our campaign has a specific plan for. We're trying to be respectful of the Sanders' campaign and let them go through their very difficult grieving process right now. But they themselves are actually mobilizing in getting out the word. Our campaigns have been joined at the hip actually through our volunteers and our supporters who've tended to support both campaigns. We've sort of been plan B for the Bernie Sanders' campaign and now people really understand why it is that we need an independent party that, you know, is not subject to the same pulling of the strings behind closed doors by Wall Street, by the war profiteers and the big banks.
PAUL: And when we talk about Hillary Clinton specifically and Donald Trump, you have mentioned in previous interview it doesn't have to be the choice between the lesser of two evils, what do you mean by that?
STEIN: Exactly. You know, I think we've been in a race to the bottom between the greater and the lesser evil. And all those things, you know, that we were told, we should vote against. In other words, we were told vote against what you fear rather than for what you believe. But we see where that's gotten us because all the reasons we were given to vote against, you know, against the Wall Street bailouts, to vote against the offshoring of our jobs. To vote against the meltdown of the climate or the endless expanding wars or the attack on our civil liberties and our immigrants. A lot of people thought they were voting against that when they voted for the lesser evil. But in fact, that's exactly what we've gotten. So the bottom line is, we really need a way forward. Democracy is not what we're against. It's not what we fear the most. Democracy needs to be an affirmative agenda. It needs a moral compass of what we want, and where we're going and how we're going to get there.
PAUL: All right.
STEIN: So my campaign is basically what that's about. How we can stand up for the future we deserve.
PAUL: All righty. And Dr. Stein, real quickly, I have about 20 seconds left but I wanted to get this in there. Any names for your VP that you're floating around?
STEIN: Not yet, but we're looking around and if you have suggestions, just go to my website jill2016.com and send us your thoughts and join the team.
PAUL: All righty. Dr. Jill Stein, we appreciate you taking time to be with us today. Thank you.
STEIN: Great to be with you Christi.
PAUL: Sure. Thank you so much. Victor?
BLACKWELL: All right. World markets took a plunge on news of the UK's exit from the European Union. And now, they're closed for the weekend, of course. So what will happen when they reopen on Monday? Global affairs and economic analyst, Ali Velshi is joining us along with CNN Senior Politics Reporter, Stephen Collinson.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hi.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hi. How are you?
AMANDA BRADFORD, FOUNDER OF THE LEAGUE: Good. I'm checking in for Amanda and Laura.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Here's a moment you don't usually see.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Lots interested in thinking about absence in terms of freezing eggs.
BRADFORD: But how do you get them out?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So, we put you to sleep and we go through the wall of the vagina and then the (CROSSTALK)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yikes.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: -- package. Isn't it?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's a private moment made public thanks to Amanda Bradford. Sshe's 31 years old and founder of exclusive dating app, The League. It's an app that vets its users before letting them join.
Why tape it? I think I wanted other people to realize that there's a lot of us out there that aren't sure about having children, that don't want to rush into a relationship just because our biological clock is ticking.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Bradford says her app is tailored towards ambitious young professionals. It's why she built a feature on the app if that woman interested in freezing their eggs. The same app that helps you find a date will now contact you with women who want to talk fertility.
It is such an interesting contrast when you have the app you have is, like, "We're trying to help you fall in love and have this thing that you always wanted." And at the same time, another feature is saying "If you don't find this, here's what you got."
BRADFORD: Yes. It's definitely contradictory in some ways, but I actually don't think it is if you actually think about it, because the people we're matching, we like to call them either, you know, power couples or future power couples and these are people that want to prioritize their career.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Bradford says the conversations will be private. Groups would only be shown to women. She kicked off the feature after her own personal experience. One she wished she'd been more prepared for.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That's the uterus there. One, two, three, four.
LAURA: Only 17?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.
BRADFORD: You said we were supposed to have 20.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What's that like, like, sitting at the doctor and having him literally count your chances of having children?
BRADFORD: A little bit of out of body experience. I do think having that knowledge is power and you can only make some informed decisions about if egg freezing is right for you.
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PAUL: All righty. Let's talk about what's happened in the UK now that they've voted to leave the European Union. Europe is scrambling as we know, to plot their next steps. And if you're wondering "How is this news playing overseas that could affect us here at home?" We have five reasons why we need to be paying attention to this. First of all, there are recession fears here. If companies move UK jobs and investments to other countries, it could trigger a recession in the UK which, of course, could of follow suit here at home, a recession. Secondly, European instability is -- if more countries leave the European Union basically, the continent could become unstable. The whole European Union as we know it could collapse and that could make everyone they say, less safe when it comes to security and terrorism.
Let's talk about the stress on diplomacy as well. The U.S. would no longer have its friend, the UK influencing the European Union. Before the vote, President Obama had said a UK exit would put the EU ahead of the UK in trade deals but here's what he said after the vote.
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BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATE: While the UK's relationship with the EU will change, one thing that will not change is the special relationship that exists between our two nations. That will endure. The EU will remain one of our indispensable partners. Our NATO alliance will remain a cornerstone of global security.
(END VIDEO CLIP) PAUL: We've also seen Trump double down a bit here at home in U.S. elections. Donald Trump may take a cue from what we saw in the UK. Some saying he could go all in on immigration and we should expect a return to his themes of building a wall with Mexico. And banning Muslims from entering the U.S. And on a little bit of a lighter note, maybe, book your UK vacation. We're, kind of, saving the silver lining for last if this is one. Their currency in the UK, reaching s a 30 euro low, which means travel to the UK could be cheaper. And since the majority of their visitors come from European countries that will now face more road blocks visiting, some say "You know what? They may be happy to see us." Victor?
BLACKWELL: All right. So, we know that there has already been an impact from the Brexit vote on the U.S. economy but will it be a lasting effect on our economy? Let's bring in now global affairs and economic analyst Ali Velshi and Senior Reporter for CNN politics, Stephen Collinson. Good morning to both of you.
ALI VELSHI, GLOBAL AFFAIRS AND ECONOMIC ANALYST: Good morning.
BLACKWELL: Hey, Ali, I'm going to start with you. We saw 600 points off the Dow on Friday. I wonder, is that from your perspective a single day knee-jerk reaction or should we expect comparable losses going into early next week?
VELSHI: Well, I answered two ways. I think it's a single reaction. I don't think it's a single day. Because what you saw at the end of the day on Friday is all the major markets ended on high velocity trading to the downside which generally implies it's not over. It will bleed into Sunday night into Asian markets and we'll see whether Asian markets or European markets can recover a little during the day. If they can't, then you're going to see this on Monday morning. So, I'm expecting Monday to be a difficult day as well in U.S. markets. But ultimately this is an event driven, get my money out until somebody can convince me why it needs to be in. There isn't a particular reason for some of the stocks that were sold off on Friday to have been sold off.
It was a lot of people saying, "I don't know what this means. There's no roadmap for this. I knew what it was when the UK was in the EU. I don't know what happens now so let me pull my money out." if you didn't pull your money out, I wouldn't be too worried about it and what Christi was talking about, those recession fears, that's because there may be a recession. Recessions are cycles. I don't think this will be the trigger for a recession in the U.S. or a global recession.
BLACKWELL: All right. Stephen, let's talk politics. Because after that announcement was made, the vote, there was that news conference (INAUDIBLE) there in Scotland from Donald Trump that he said this about Brexit. "I think it will turn out to be a good thing. Maybe not short term, but ultimately I think it will be a good thing." There are only about 19 and a half weeks left until the general election so we are talking short term. How closely tied are Trump's fates to the short term reaction response and the impact that we see in the UK? STEPHEN COLLINSON, CNN POLITICS REPORTER: Well, if we were talking about a recession there, if there were to be a recession, that would clearly be bad news for Hillary Clinton since she's trying to succeed a democratic President Obama who will probably get the blame from Trump if there is a recession. And I think it's easy to overdo the parallels between the UK and the US selection system. They are very different. But there are definitely trends that we saw in the UK referendum that we're seeing in the U.S. election which pose questions for how our democracies in the western world are functioning. There was a (INAUDIBLE) backlash against the elite, against the established politicians in Britain.
There was very (INAUDIBLE) argument about immigration. There's a feeling -- it's a very interesting. You hear a pro-Brexit voters talk and they talk about taking our country back. That's exactly what you hear from Donald Trump voters when you go to Donald Trump rallies. There's a feeling that globalization has caused victims less well off people in America and in Britain tended to sort of be in favor of Brexit or Donald Trump in some cases and some of the industrial Midwest States and some of the industrial heart lands in Britain. So, there are definitely parallels that raise real questions about whether, you know, the establishment, political system in both countries is serving the voters.
BLACKWELL: Yes. You know, we saw more than a few of those "Make Britain Great Again" signs in the lead up to the vote, of course reminiscing of the "Make America Great Again" signs for Donald Trump. And Ali, we just have about a minute left and let me come to you with Scotland. We heard this morning from -- and I'm just looking over to read this, from Scotland's First Minister, Nicola Sturgeon, that the Scotch Government discussions with the EU institutions to quote, "Protect Scotland's place in the European Union." Back in 2014, Scotland voted against independence. Could we see a referendum soon that the Scotland could leave the UK to join the EU?
VELSHI: So, Scotland voted against 55 to 45 but then Nicola Sturgeon and her party which is, sort of, pro-Scottish Independents won an election that have been growing in popularity. The bottom line is, one of the strongest arguments to keep Scotts within the United Kingdom was the idea that you're part of the Euro and you'd have to renegotiate entrance to the European Union. So, that's why many of them stayed. Now that they might leave the European Union, the Scotts are saying, "Let's take another look at this thing." As you know, Scotts voted overwhelmingly to remain in the EU. So, I think you could see that. And you've got Northern Ireland, talking to Ireland, the Republic of Ireland which is an EU member that Brits have spent decades not letting Northern Ireland leave the United Kingdom. So you could now see the falling apart of what we know as the United Kingdom.
BLACKWELL: All right. Ali, Stephen, stay with us. We'll take a quick break and we'll continue the conversation on the other side.
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BLACKWELL: All right. Let's continue our conversation now about the fallout of the UK vote to pull out of the european union. Global affairs and economic analyst Ali Velshi and Senior Political Reporter, Stephen Collinson are here with me now. And, Ali, I want to start with you. We heard of course from the Prime Minister, David Cameron that he's out in October, that this will be a two-year process to leave the EU. We heard here from representatives of the EU founding member countries this morning that they want to speed this up. How much muscle and will they use it to, kind of, push this along the track sooner than two years?
VELSHI: Right. So the EU has -- is in a bit of a pickle despite the fact that the Brits were all in a lather about how much power Brussels has and the EU has. Most people who look at the EU structure will say over the last several years it has weakened rather than strengthened. So, what they need to do is, sort of -- they're threading the needle here. They need to make it tough on Britain so that they can show the Netherlands and some factions in France and others in Europe that leaving the EU is dangerous. It will cost you something. At the same time, the -- Europe is less stable as far as major economies go than a lot of places in the world. So, it has to do this in a relatively seamless way that doesn't disrupt each trading relationships.
Which means that all of the trading relationships that the UK loses with Europe, they're going to want to replace as quickly as possible with by lateral trading relationships. So that's -- it's just a long process. The bottom line is, anybody can say they want to speed it up but if you've ever been part of trade negotiations, these things take years. So they're going to have to figure this out. The other thing I want to point out, the trickier part is going to be immigration. But Amy Kramer kept telling you about how the Britains wanted to take their country back. England is not part of the Schengen System in Europe. The Schengen system means when you get into certain continental European country, you get your passport, you get into the airport, you can then roam around Europe unmolested for the rest of the time. You can't do that in the United Kingdom.
BLACKWELL: Quickly Stephen, let me come to you. Do we know what the U. S. role will be in this transition?
COLLINSON: I think the U.S. has been watching very carefully. The U.S. doesn't have a great deal of influence in exactly how the UK will disengage with the European Union. I think what the UK is very concerned about is a potential breakup of the United Kingdom that has real implications for the defense relationship between the U.S. and Europe.
If Scotland were to go, for example, we could see real questions raised about Britain's (nuclear) deterrents since it's based in Scotland in a base near Glascow and Scottish National Party opposes it. So, we're going to have very profound questions facing not just this President but the next president too.
BLACKWELL: All right. Stephen Collinson, Ali Velshi, thank you both.
VELSHI: It's my pleasure.
BLACKWELL: All right. And that's it for us. We'll see you back here at 10 o'clock Eastern for an hour of "NEWSROOM".
PAUL: That's right. "SMERCONISH" though, coming up for you after quick break. Stay close.
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