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3 Shot Dead at Party in Suburban Seattle; FBI Investigates Campaign Computer System Breach; Clinton Paints Trump as Unfit for Office; Zika Crisis: First U.S. Non-Travel Related Cases Found in Miami; Trump's Path to 270 Electoral Votes; What's Next For Bernie Sanders?; Pokemon Go: Game Helping Form Unlikely Friendships; Remains of Chinese Rocket Light Up Night Sky. Aired 7-8a ET
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[07:00:18] CHRISTI PAUL, CNN ANCHOR: Well, good morning and welcome to Saturday. We're so grateful for your company. I'm Christi Paul.
VICTOR BLACKWELL, CNN ANCHOR: I'm Victor Blackwell.
Your NEW DAY starts right now.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: U.S. officials now saying it was likely Russia that hacked 20,000 e-mails.
DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: Wouldn't it be nice if we actually did get along with Russia?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The timing raising questions about whether it was an attempt to influence the U.S. election.
SEN. DIANNE FEINSTEIN (D), CALIFORNIA: I don't know what their motive is. Do I believe they've done it? That's certainly the way it looks.
HILLARY CLINTON (D), PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: We have 100 days to make our case to America.
TRUMP: No more Mr. Nice Guy.
SEN. TIM KAINE (D), VICE PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: We are going to win. We have to win.
GOV. MIKE PENCE (R), VICE PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: Hillary Clinton must never become president of the United States of America.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You're absolutely sure this is Zika?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A hundred percent, no doubt in my mind.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Three men and one woman in south Florida believed to be the first cases of this kind.
SEN. MARCO RUBIO (R), FLORIDA: Zika doesn't just bite Republicans or Democrats or independents. It bites everyone.
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BLACKWELL: Breaking news overnight first. Three people are dead, another injured after a shooting in suburban Seattle. Police tell CNN that gunfire broke out at gathering between of about 15 and 20 people. This was at a home, private residence. One person is in custody. We'll have more on this as soon as we get it.
PAUL: Meanwhile to the political arena, let's go together here. A busy weekend for Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine. In just a couple of hours, they're going to be in Johnstown, Pennsylvania, a first stop on their bus tour today.
Meanwhile, Democrats have been the target of at least three cyber attacks, the latest, the hacks that affected the Clinton campaign's computer system.
CNN's Dianne Gallagher live from Washington with us.
Do we have a good gauge, Dianne, of the kind of information the hackers were able to get their hands on?
DIANNE GALLAGHER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Analytics program that's maintained by the DNC and used by the campaigns like the Clinton campaign to basically get their hands on voter information. It's sort of a list of things like participation rates, your contact information, stuff like that. But a Clinton aide does tell us that this is not social security numbers or contact information, credit cards, things like that.
Still we're told that the Clinton campaign maintains this is only thing that was hack. They didn't have to deal with their internal servers in this hack so far. They say their information, their e- mails, voice mails have not been breached.
But Senator Dianne Feinstein of the intelligence committee said this is still something campaigns need to worry about.
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SEN. DIANNE FEINSTEIN (D), INTELLIGENCE VICE CHAIR: I think it's very clear both campaigns need to be aware there's a problem out there. And I think until the technical people can come up with some solutions which are more ironclad -- and I don't know whether that can be done or not, everybody should be cautious.
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GALLAGHER: Yes. And, of course, this is the second -- excuse me -- the third hack we've had in just a matter of a week that's broken from the Democratic Party, the DNC, DCCC, and now the Clinton campaign -- Christi.
PAUL: You have to expect that she may -- I don't know that she would mention it now that I say it. I don't know that she would bring attention to it other than, of course, as we've heard many saying Donald Trump has ties to Russia and that's how they believe this whole thing is connected.
But where is she going to be headed today? We know that she's in Pennsylvania. She's going to Ohio as well, yes?
GALLAGHER: That's right. So, she's starting offer to Johnstown, Pennsylvania. She's then go to Pittsburgh and go to Youngstown, Ohio, is where she will end her evening. This is their little Rust Belt tour. She and Tim Kaine very reminiscent of what she and the Clintons and Al Gore did back in 1992 when they were crossing the country, but this is taking Tim Kaine to a part of the country where she thinks he really can help her. They're going to be in Ohio tomorrow, hitting up Cleveland and Columbus, Christine.
PAUL: All righty. Dianne Gallagher, thank you so much, ma'am.
BLACKWELL: All right. As Dianne said, they're still in Pennsylvania before they head over to Cleveland and Columbus.
CNN senior Washington correspondent Jeff Zeleny is following the Democratic nominees as they campaign across Pennsylvania.
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JEFF ZELENY, CNN SENIOR WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, victor and Christi.
Hillary Clinton is on the second days of her post-convention bus tour, making her way across Pennsylvania. She'll end up today in Pittsburgh after talking to so many voters across the state about the economy. That's her central issue her as she tries to make her case against Donald Trump.
Today marks the 100-day point until the general election. Her convention behind her now, she's making her case against Donald Trump.
(voice-over): The new Democratic ticket is taking its show on the road.
CLINTON: As of tomorrow, we have 100 days to make our case to America.
ZELENY: Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine on a three-month sprint to Election Day.
CLINTON: What better place to kick off this campaign than right here in Philadelphia where it all started 240 years ago.
ZELENY: After a convention steeped in nostalgia, their challenge now, tapping into the country's hunger for change.
CLINTON: I'm not telling you that everything is just peachy keen. I'm telling you we've made progress but we have work do if we're going to make sure that everybody is included.
ZELENY: Their fight with Donald Trump is now fully joined as they try making him an unacceptable choice.
KAINE: The Republican convention was like a twisted and negative tour. It was a journey through Donald Trump's mind and that is a very frightening place.
ZELENY: So the Democratic candidates set off on a bus tour of Pennsylvania and Ohio, evoking memories of another journey back in 1992 with the Clintons and Gores. This time, the Clintons are alongside Tim Kaine and his wife Anne, still focusing on the economy.
CLINTON: We're going to be visiting a few places where people are making things. Donald Trump talks about make America great again. He doesn't make a thing in America except bankruptcies.
ZELENY: A Democratic convention rich in history --
CLINTON: I accept your nomination for president of the United States!
ZELENY: -- is now the script for how Democrats hope to defeat Trump.
TRUMP: Russia, if you're listening --
ZELENY: She said he doesn't have the temperament for the Oval Office.
CLINTON: A man you can bait with a tweet is not a man we can trust with nuclear weapons.
ZELENY: Safety and security now a central piece of her argument.
CLINTON: Donald Trump says, and this is a quote, I know more about ISIS than the generals do. No, Donald, you don't.
ZELENY: After a week in historic Philadelphia, Clinton made clear the history-making moment that matters comes in November
CLINTON: I believe every time we knock down a barrier in America, it liberates everyone in America. Every parent in this country could look at their son or their daughter and now say the very same thing. You, too, could be president of the United States!
Thank you all. God bless you!
ZELENY (on camera): This bus tour is the effective rollout of Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine. With the convention behind them, they're making their way across Western Pennsylvania, tomorrow in Ohio. And then they will separate campaigning in battleground states across the country.
Again, today, the 100-day mark until the general election. But some people will start voting much earlier than that. Voting starts in some places as early as 70 days. Not much time for either of these candidates to make their case to those undecided voters -- Victor and Christi.
(END VIDEOTAPE) BLACKWELL: All right, Jeff, thanks so much.
Donald Trump lashing out at this Democratic rival, blasting Hillary Clinton as a loose cannon, but also calling the election a waste of time if he doesn't win. Watch.
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TRUMP: If I don't beat crooked Hillary Clinton, she is as crooked as a $3 bill. If I don't beat Crooked Hillary Clinton, I will consider this a tremendous waste of time, energy, and money.
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BLACKWELL: Well, Donald Trump is taking a weekend off. Next week rally is Monday in Ohio.
All right. We've got a lot to talk about obviously. In just few moments, we'll break down the post-convention politics and hacking. And Scottie Nell Hughes and A. Scott Bolden are joining us to talk about those issues and more.
PAUL: Also, the Zika virus now in Florida. It's the first known case being transmitted by mosquitoes in the U.S. Health officials and politicians say they need help now.
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RUBIO: Earlier this week, I wrote the president a letter and I asked him to fully spend the money he fully has access to. Don't hold it back to play political games. Zika is not a partisan issue. It is not a political issue. Zika doesn't just bite Republicans or Democrats or independents. It bites everyone.
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[07:12:45] BLACKWELL: Well, the Democrats are really concerned about the recent hacks into their computer system especially as U.S. officials think Russia may be behind these attacks.
Here to talk about it and more, Scottie Nell Hughes, a CNN political commentator and Donald Trump supporter, and A. Scott Bolden, former chairman of the Washington, D.C. Democratic Party and Hillary Clinton supporter.
And, Scott, let me start with you. How potentially damaging are these hacks to the Clinton campaign.
A. SCOTT BOLDEN, HILLARY CLINTON SUPPORTER: Well, thank you for having me this morning.
That remains to be seen. But I will say this: this is really serious, both for the Republican Party and Democratic Party. We only know what they disclosed through WikiLeaks and what DOJ is investigating right now. It's not clear whether the Republican organizations have been hacked as well. But this is really serious.
And the damage is -- could be from embarrassment or the damage could be whereby these organizations have to disclose their donors one way or the other, whether sensitive information like Social Security numbers had access to or been accessed or not. And so, I think it's very serious. And if it's -- we have -- if it's tantamount to cyber political dirty tricks, I'm even more concerned about Russia weighing to play in this space right now. And more importantly, what Donald Trump's ties are out of Russia in that regard as well.
BLACKWELL: Let's talk about those ties. Donald Trump has said he has no ties to Russia, has never met Putin, but previously, he talked about having conversations with the Russian president.
BOLDEN: Absolutely.
BLACKWELL: Why the change? Why deny it now? Scottie, to you.
SCOTTIE NELL HUGHES, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: You know, it's really interesting you want to talk about it. I saw the package. It's a very well packaged. I'm waiting actually on the other side, because the only person who's actually confirmed talked to Vladimir Putin is Bill Clinton and that was a special thank-you, a person phone call --
BLACKWELL: No, no. Donald Trump said himself. I just want to jump in here for the sake --
HUGHES: I said for a personal -- a personal -- that's different --
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BLACKWELL: Hold on, hold on. Donald Trump said, and we have it. We can play it back if Jeff will get that ready for us that he's spoken with him indirectly and directly.
BOLDEN: That's right.
BLACKWELL: Having a direct conversation is speaking with the principle.
HUGHES: Vladimir Putin did call Bill Clinton personally thanking him for a speech he gave to a Russian, I think it's the Russian investment bank Renaissance Capital, after he gave a speech talking about Uranium One, which has close ties with the Clinton Global Foundation of a half a million dollars.
BLACKWELL: What about the conversations between Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin?
HUGHES: As your story pointed out, nothing ever come by. He's an international businessman to do business in the country. I love it that we're focusing on Donald Trump when the only people who have had actual ties, financial ties to Russia, the government, or the large investors within Russia are the Clintons.
BOLDEN: That's just not true. HUGHES: No, it is.
BOLDEN: That's just not true.
HUGHES: There's nothing new -- no, it is -- 19 investors.
BLACKWELL: Hold on, hold on. Finish your point, Scottie. And then, Scott, I'll let you finish.
HUGHES: Uranium One, let's do a little history lesson, Uranium One was sold in 2010, which was a Canadian company that was sold to Russia. The majority of it actually had to be approved by the Obama administration because of what we are talking about, and the secretary of state's office. That was something that Hillary Clinton had to sign off on.
Meanwhile, you had numerous of those board members actually I think we're looking at $48 million to the Clinton Global Foundation at that exact same time. Financial ties between the Clintons and Russian investors are a lot stronger and a lot more proof. Just say --
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BLACKWELL: Let me go to you.
HUGHES: Uranium One.
BOLDEN: Please let me jump in here, please. Let's be real clear here, OK? Donald Trump, his own son has confirmed Russian investments. He's done Russian deals with investors here in the U.S. He sold his home to a Russian investor. His campaign manager has ties to Crimea and the Ukraine.
And here's the real thing now. Watch this. Donald Trump says on tape that he's talked to Putin before and he has -- and his son has confirmed business deals in Russia before, and now that he's running for president he says he has no tie and has never talked to Vladimir Putin.
Now wait a minute. Could it be that Donald Trump is lying Donald? Could it be that he's corrupt Donald now?
HUGHES: Hold on.
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BLACKWELL: Hold on, both of you. Scott and Scottie -- Scott, hold on. Hold on for a second, Scott. I've about got you.
Let's listen to what Donald Trump said. We've pulled up the tape.
HUGHES: Of course, you did.
BOLDEN: Absolutely.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: I was in Russia, Moscow recently. I spoke directly and indirectly to president Putin who could not have been nicer.
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BLACKWELL: Just on the record, that's what he said.
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HUGHES: Scott, but we're not reporting that also, the personal phone call happened between Bill Clinton and the financial ties between, and you can say that's all speculative. The facts are where the actual amounts are.
BLACKWELL: OK.
HUGHES: Look at the package we just reported. We just said that there were no proof that there was any business ties. But the other side, the Republicans have been warning this. Remember Mitt Romney --
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BLACKWELL: Scottie, we've got to that element. Let me come back if we're going to stay here since we've only got a minute, Scott.
If we continue to see these hacks and, you know, first it was the DNC, then the DCCC, and now this database, does this not play into a narrative that was started when we heard the director of the FBI talking about being extremely careless. Completely different issue, but when people are voting, they have concerns about the security of information.
Does this not play into that narrative that they have concerns that the Democrats and Hillary Clinton specifically may not be the best steward over those?
BOLDEN: No. Because these are mutually exclusive issues first of all. The Republicans, they want to make that to be the case --
BLACKWELL: But would people create that distinction?
BOLDEN: We certainly hope that they don't -- we certainly hope that they do create that distinction. But here again, DOJ and the FBI are investigating this, and several, including up to the candidates, quite frankly, could be interviewed, and regard to what they know and how these hacks took place.
Remember, it was the private investigators hired by the DNC to look into these issues. And if there are any links between the Republican Party and them playing dirty tricks.
HUGHES: That's borderline slander right there. There's been nothing that proves that. That's slander. There's no proof whatsoever that you can say that.
BLACKWELL: We can't hear with both of you talking at the same time. BOLDEN: We don't know if there's any proof or not, we're going to
wait for the investigation.
BLACKWELL: Unfortunately, we're out of time.
BOLDEN: We've got a problem in this country.
BLACKWELL: All right, Scott. We don't have any evidence that the Republican Party was involved.
BOLDEN: I just raised it as a question.
BLACKWELL: And I'm just reconfirming that.
Scottie Nell Hughes, A. Scott Bolden, thank you. We'll continue the conversation throughout the morning.
BOLDEN: Thanks for having me.
BLACKWELL: All right. Sure. The convention is over, both conventions over now. Question, though, we remember the shouts of "Bernie, Bernie" even during Hillary's acceptance speech. What will she do over the next several months to win those voters over? Donald Trump doesn't think you'll see very much.
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TRUMP: Did you see Bernie last night how angry he was? He sold his soul to the devil.
[07:20:00] He shouldn't have made that deal!
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PAUL: Plus, new Zika fears in Florida. Four people infected with the virus in one Miami neighborhood, experts calling this a game-changer.
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[07:23:39] PAUL: Twenty-three minutes past the hour right now.
Blood centers in South Florida are now screening all of their donations for the Zika virus after the state reports the first non- travel-related cases of the virus in the U.S. Now, the CDC says the infections happened or they came from mosquito bites. This is in an area just north of downtown Miami, and the state is now responding to try to stop the virus from spreading.
CNN's Nick Valencia is in Miami right now.
So, Nick, what is the CDC doing as we understand it as they jump into this game now?
NICK VALENCIA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, good morning, Christi.
The good news in all of this is this has been long anticipated, not just here in the state of Florida, but by those CDC officials. Here in Florida, they had been taking added precautions in recent weeks, trapping mosquitoes, spraying in areas they believe to be infected, and trying to eliminate things like standing water.
Of course, the concern is that there could be more cases or diagnosed here or confirmed in this area. But with those precautions being taken in recent weeks, they hope to limit that exposure.
Florida Department of Health has, does believe they've limited the area of local transmission to an area that we're in right now, here in Wynwood, which is just north of downtown Miami. While no mosquitoes here in this area have tested positive for the Zika virus, through epidemiological research, they believe they've ruled out any other option of transmission. They believe that mosquitoes here in this area were the cause of the local transmission.
[07:25:04] And just a couple of minutes ago, as a matter of fact, we saw an area, local area official here in Miami/Dade County, going around block to block spraying this area. We expect that to continue in the days ahead -- Christi.
PAUL: Hey, Nick. Thank you so much for bringing us the latest. We appreciate it.
BLACKWELL: All right. We have the nominees now. Now the official race to 270 begins. A look at the paths for each of the campaigns. Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump, how do they get there?
Also, what's next for Bernie Sanders? The Democratic candidate failed in his bid to nomination. A look at the role he could play in the race for the White House.
PAUL: Let's talk about money. Mortgage rates were down slightly this week. Here are the numbers for you.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: U.S. officials now saying it was likely Russia that hacked 20,000 e-mails.
DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: Wouldn't it be nice if we actually did get along with Russia?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The timing raising questions about whether it was an attempt to influence the U.S. election.
SEN. DIANNE FEINSTEIN (D), CALIFORNIA: I don't know what their motive is. Do I believe they've done it? That's certainly the way it looks.
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PAUL: So glad to have your company. 29 minutes past the hour right now. I'm Christi Paul.
BLACKWELL: I'm Victor Blackwell.
And we're counting down the hours to the 100-day dash. Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine, they have a very busy weekend. They are on a bus of Pennsylvania and Ohio, Cleveland and Columbus tomorrow.
[07:30:02] But the biggest worry for the campaign is a breach of the computer system they used. Now, this is the third cyber attack on Democrats. The attack on the DNC resulted in this mass e-mail leak before the convention, we know the resignation from the chair.
WikiLeaks Julian Assange told CNN there is more to come. And the FBI is investigating the hacks, and officials say Russia maybe behind them. Of course, the Russians have denied those allegations.
CNN politics reporter Eugene Scott joins us now.
Eugene, good morning to you.
And the Clinton/Kaine bus tour continues today.
EUGENE SCOTT, CNN POLITICS REPORTER: Yes, it does.
BLACKWELL: Let's talk key battleground states. Crucial for the campaign this fall. Of course, we know Pennsylvania, the Democrats have held it for several cycles, but Donald Trump thinks he can snatch it this time around.
SCOTT: Yes, very much so. Donald Trump has been working very hard to connect with white working class voters and the Rust Belt, speaking about how they've been really disadvantaged to the economic downturn, which he attributes to policies connected to the Obama administration. And so, he's hoping that he can win Pennsylvania because if he can win Pennsylvania, there's a really good chance that he can win Ohio as well.
But as you highlighted, Pennsylvania has not gone red since like 1988, and so the Clinton/Kaine ticket is working hard to keep it blue, which is why they launched their bus tour there this weekend.
BLACKWELL: So, what is Trump's path to 270, the states he has to pick up to get there?
SCOTT: Well, if he can get Pennsylvania -- like I say, he could probably get Ohio as well. He's hoping he can get Florida. Eric Holder was at the Florida delegate breakfast during the Democratic National Convention and he was telling those voters that if they can deliver Florida for Clinton, then they can actually win the whole election.
So, Donald Trump is hoping to keep Florida away from Clinton. He also is hoping then maybe he can get North Carolina which went red in 2012 but went blue in '08, which is why President Barack Obama, one of his first campaign stops was there for Hillary Clinton.
BLACKWELL: All right. We know that the Trump campaign is off this weekend. Governor Pence, Mr. Trump not campaigning. We know that they're in Ohio, Nevada, Pennsylvania on Monday, and then hitting Arizona and Virginia later in the week.
Eugene Scott joining us from Washington -- thanks so much.
SCOTT: Thank you.
BLACKWELL: Well, Bernie Sanders and his political revolution, they came up short in the primaries as you know. The Vermont senator, though, did end up coming to the rescue of the Democratic National Convention, so to speak this week.
He really helped quell unrest among his supporters, showed a united front, asking delegates very genuinely to unanimously accept Clinton's nomination.
What's next for him though?
He was on "Real Time" with Bill Maher last night, and he was asked about the possibility of another presidential run.
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SEN. BERNIE SANDERS (I), VERMONT: Four years from now is a long time off from now. My term ends in two years as a U.S. senator for Vermont. Everything being equal, I intend to run for re-election from Vermont, a state that I love very, very much.
But what I will tell you is whatever my political future may or may not be, I will be fighting as hard as I can to stand up for a declining middle class.
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PAUL: All right. On the phone with us, Jonathan Tasini, political strategist and author of the book "The Essential Bernie Sanders and His Vision for America."
So, Jonathan, thanks for being with us.
We saw this image of Bernie Sanders at the Democratic National Convention as he was sitting in the seat watching Hillary Clinton accept the nomination, and I think watching him, a lot of people thought, does he had the feeling that it should have been me.
Can he, do you think, rally enough of his supporters behind Hillary Clinton?
JONATHAN TASINI, BERNIE SANDERS SUPPORTER (via telephone): Well, thanks to question. It's pleasure to be here. I was at the convention as a delegate from New York.
I would say, look, any candidate who does not win the nomination probably has in his or her mind, you know, the feeling I would like to be up there. That's probably human nature. I think Bernie did everything possible for the Clinton campaign to as you phrase it rally his supporters as you mention, both in his speech at the convention on Monday night and subsequent to that. I don't think he could have done anymore in that respect. I think,
really, the question is, it's really now up to Hillary Clinton. She has to make, if you will, the sale to supporters.
And I think it comes to a fundamental question, do people believe and will people believe that all the promise that she's made at the campaign both in words and then when it came to the Democratic Party platform, do people believe she's going to actually carry that out if she makes it as president?
And I think I need to say, there's a bit of skepticism among many Bernie Sanders supporters about that.
And then, the last thing I'll say is will they turn out. It's not that people are going to vote for Trump. It's that I think the biggest concern the Clinton campaign should have is that people are basically going to stay home.
PAUL: That they're going to stay home. That is -- yes, something that a lot of people have been talking about as to whether anybody will even go to the polls if their candidate is not on the ballot.
You mention skepticism. Anybody would say that goes across the board in any election. There's always skepticism as to whether the candidate can or will be able to do what they promise during this part of the process.
But how much will we see Bernie Sanders on the trail supporting Hillary Clinton?
TASINI: Let me quickly address two things. One is you have to understand there were deep ideological divides between these two candidates. So, it's not just, are you going to do this here? There were very deep differences between the campaigns, between the candidates and between the people who supported Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton.
And I do think the real question is not that nobody's going to turn out. I think Donald Trump, who many of us think is just not a sane person as Michael Bloomberg has said, many people are going to turn out because they fear Donald Trump becoming president.
And for Bernie, look, he's made clear he's willing to devote the time between now and November to campaign as hard as possible. I assume he's going to be on the college campus circuit.
Remember, one of the key things Bernie is thinking about is also being part of the effort to recapture the U.S. Senate and put a majority in Democratic hands. I saw Chuck Schumer at our New York delegation. I spoke to him one on one. It was very clear that as a majority in the U.S. Senate, Bernie Sanders will have a very, very high and powerful committee chairmanship and position. Chuck Schumer said that to me directly but that depends on the Democrats controlling the majority.
PAUL: All right. Jonathan Tasini, thank you so much for taking the time to be with us. TASINI: Always a pleasure.
PAUL: Of course, take care.
BLACKWELL: Well, Hillary Clinton has gone on ad spending spree since clinching the nomination. But Donald Trump has been quiet on that front, at least as far as ads are concerned. So which strategy could pay off in November?
PAUL: Plus this --
LAURIE SEGALL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hey, there. I don't know about you guys, but I am addicted to Pokemon Go. After the break, I'm going to tell you the surprising impact it's having all over the country.
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[07:41:03] BLACKWELL: Donald Trump is launching an online assault against Hillary Clinton, painting his Democratic rival as dishonest while promoting his economic vision for America. Watch.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP, TRUMP CAMPAIGN AD)
AD NARRATOR: Behind the glitter lie this stark truth: in Hillary Clinton's America, things get worst. Under her dishonest plan, taxes keep rising, terrorism spreads, Washington insiders remain in control, Americans losing their jobs, homes, and hope. In Donald Trump's America --
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BLACKWELL: All right. Let's talk about it.
CNN senior media correspondent Brian Stelter is following that angle for the race for us.
So, Brian, we're seeing this online ad, not so much Trump/Pence TV ads. What's the strategy here?
BRIAN STELTER, CNN SENIOR MEDIA CORRESPONDENT: This year is the ultimate test of whether television advertising really matters in elections because there is such a difference between the Clinton campaign strategy and the Trump campaign strategy.
You know, heading out of the conventions, it's time for the air war. It's time for the television to be blanketed usually by negative ads, sometimes by some positive ads as well. We're seeing this massive outspending by the Clinton campaign and its allies, $60 million has already been spent by Clinton and her super PACs on TV ads that have been airing on stations, local stations and cable channels like CNN.
The Trump campaign and its allies only spend $7 million on TV ads. So there's a massive differential here. And as you say, Trump is using online ads as well and get free attention for -- on CNN and other channels. It's going to be very interesting in the next few weeks and months to
see if it really matters. Trump not spending as much on traditional TV ads as Clinton is.
BLACKWELL: Is there any indicators thus far to show there's some quantitative correlation between the money Clinton is spending on air and her poll numbers?
STELTER: Well, that's the thing about this. You know, researchers for decades have looked into the impact of TV ads, of political ads. And there's mixed research on this. There's some studies that say campaigns have been wasting a lot of money for a long time on TV ads that are not effective.
There's an old saying in the advertising business: I know half the money I spent is wasted, but I don't know what half. Trump by spending a lot less on TV ads is sort of running this experiment. Let's see in August and September what we see in the polls.
You know, once this convention bounce period ends, what we see in the polls as a result of TV ad spending. Meanwhile, there's Trump allies saying they need to see more ads. We see a lot of super PACs raising more money, trying to raise more money for ads.
But Trump doesn't seem so concerned himself.
BLACKWELL: Well, speaking of Trump and his allies, he's trying to make more Bernie Sanders supporters his supporters. But -- explain this. This Trump ad that came out on the day that Hillary Clinton accepted the nomination. It was an Instagram post saying that Bernie Sanders caved.
What's the strategy behind that if you want those supporters?
STELTER: You know, I don't think I have an answer for that question. I saw the same thing you did, and I thought it was a very curious post. If that is the attempt to bring Bernie Sanders supporters over to Trump, it did seem like the wrong message.
But, you know, we heard him say it again last night in Colorado Springs, urging Sanders supporters to come over to his side. So far, we've not seen a lot of that happening in the polls, but, you know, on Monday, we're going to start seeing new polls as a result of the Democratic convention. So, for the first time we will see if Clinton got a bounce and whether Sanders supporters have come over to Clinton's side or not.
Instagram by the way, it's important to mention, Instagram, Twitter and Facebook, that is where Trump is trying to get his message out. Increasingly, you have to buy ads based on those as well. So, that's another area where Trump has to spend money there.
I noticed last night at his rally, he responded to one of the Clinton ads against him, that ad showing kids watching Trump speeches. Trump went on a lengthy speech talking about why that ad was wrong. He was actually giving that may ad more attention, which was a curious choice.
[07:45:02] BLACKWELL: All right. Brian Stelter, we're looking forward to "RELIABLE SOURCES" tomorrow at 11:00 Eastern.
STELTER: Thanks.
BLACKWELL: Thank you.
Christi?
PAUL: You know, this is curious too. This craze that everybody's talking about, Pokemon Go. This is not the game kids play in their rooms. It's got people out of the house, strangers bonding. We'll talk more about it.
Also this fireball over the West Coast caused a whole lot of people to speculate about what it was. Why we hear it happens more than we might think.
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PAUL: Oh, my goodness. This is the game that millions of people can't put down. If you aren't playing Pokemon Go, I bet you might know somebody is. This is a game and mostly you play alone and catch Pokemon on your phone. However, they found that it's really bringing people from all walks of life together.
In fact, Laurie Segall went along to see how this one game is turning strangers into friends.
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LAURIE SEGALL, CNN TECH CORRESPONDENT: Hey, Christi, hey, Victor.
Well, unless you have been living under a rock, you have probably heard of Pokemon Go. It's the new smartphone game that launched a couple weeks ago. To say it is wildly popular would be an understatement.
But what makes it different than a lot of video games is you have to actually go outside to play. It allows you to explore the reality world to find the Pokemon and add them to your collection.
[07:50:02] So, I decided to visit a Pokemon hot spot in New York City, and I will say this, in all my years covering tech, I have not seen a video game have this kind of particular impact.
Take a look.
(voice-over): This is New York. Lots people and lots of screen time. And even though we're surrounded by thousands of people a day, us New Yorkers, well, we don't exactly talk to each other.
But something is happening lately. I go as far as saying something's changing. (on camera): This is not normal. This is not exactly what happens in
front of the Plaza Hotel in New York City. This is Pokemon Go. I got to get in and we're going to go play Pokemon. Let's go, and not get run over.
Are you guys playing Pokemon? Have you guys just met?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It brings our community together because you meet people you never thought you could meet before. I met this guy just through this to find out he lives in my area.
SEGALL: It feels like it's breaking some weird barrier that technology has created, right?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: With Facebook and all that, you are not separated by them because (INAUDIBLE). This is the only app you can't play in your house.
(CROSSTALK)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You have to leave.
SEGALL: You're out here with your whole family playing a video game? I love what you said that we need this right now. Why do you need this right now?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I deactivated my Facebook. There are way too many cops dying, way too many blacks dying. It's hard to deal with everything.
People don't feel the same and sometimes you want to break up monotony. And this is simple, not black, not white, it is simple.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Everybody said he looks like Trump.
(LAUGHTER)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The hair-do.
SEGALL: Bye, guys, see you later.
I like making a lot of Pokemon friends, right?
More?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Oh, yes.
SEGALL: With everything happening in the world right now, being out here, this renews my faith in humanity. It is so cool to be out here and see everybody talking to each other. It doesn't matter if you are black or white, whether you're gay or you're straight. It's awesome. And it is really, really special.
(CROSSTALK) SEGALL: I think I have major friends here. I earned my cred.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What team are you on?
(CROSSTALK)
(CHEERS)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You found the Pikachu. Come on. Are you serious? You know what?
SEGALL: People are paying attention to this game and it's not just because it's addictive. It's because it's essentially changing our perception to the online world versus the offline world and bringing people together in a really powerful way -- Christi, Victor.
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PAUL: Clearly. We have someone sitting here explaining it to us. Wait a minute, you have to find and click on it?
BLACKWELL: It's been a long way since my giga pet.
PAUL: Or my Space Invaders. Do you remember Space Invaders?
BLACKWELL: I do, I do. Dodging, yes.
PAUL: Yes.
BLACKWELL: All right. Let's talk about the campaign. Hillary Clinton, her camp says database that is vital, really crucial to its effort to win the White House has been hacked. Now, the FBI is investigating. The question here, who is responsible? We've got the latest in a live report.
PAUL: And check this out, look at that fireball rocketing across the sky. This just happened the other night. It's surprising how often this happens. We're going to tell you what it is.
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[07:57:32] PAUL: All right. I'm going to show you something that people saw all over the west. And they were a little perturbed by it and a little perplexed. What the heck was this? They said.
BLACKWELL: Most would assume this is meteor. But in truth, this is a piece of space junk falling back to earth.
Yes, scientists say it's the remains of a large Chinese rocket. Get this, this is just one of some 22,000 manmade objects in orbit that occasionally succumb to gravity and falls to earth.
PAUL: That scares me. Is it going to fall on my house or burn up before it gets here?
BLACKWELL: CNN meteorologist Allison Chinchar, she's been looking into this for us.
And how can you tell if it is a meteor or just piece of junk?
ALLISON CHINCHAR, AMS METEOROLOGIST: Believe it or not, it is simple to tell that. You look for two things. So, let's kind of break it down, look the basics out with this.
OK. You've got the earth, we have all the satellites that operate around it, and all the parts that maybe get taken off from it as they get deployed. So, over time all of that kind of builds up.
And we have about 22,000 objects at least the size of a softball or greater that are currently kind of traveling around.
Now, here's the difference, OK? Let's say a meteor, for example, that comes in, OK? It's going to move at a much steeper angle, because it's coming from a farther distance. And it's coming down in.
So if you're looking at it from the sky, it's going to almost look like it's come straight down at you. Whereas these objects, because they are slower, they are going to appear like the red line here, almost like they are just floating along the horizon, and moving almost horizontal.
The other thing is the speed at which these things travel. Because all these objects are moving in orbit around them, by the time they fall back down to earth, they are going to do it in a much slower speed, if you will. Say around 15,000, 18,000 miles per hour. That may seem really, really fast.
But the meteors that are coming back, the yellow lines, that you kind of see throughout here, those can move as fast as 100,000 miles per hour, which is why you see meteors often shoot. And if you blink, you miss them.
BLACKWELL: Excellent explaining. And the graphics team is on it this morning.
PAUL: Oh my gosh, that looks awesome.
BLACKWELL: All right. Allison, thanks so much.
PAUL: Thanks, Allison.
All right. Besides that, there's so much to talk to you about this morning.
BLACKWELL: Yes, next hour of your NEW DAY starts right now.
