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More Than 83,000 COVID-19 Cases Recorded on Friday, the Single Highest day Since the Outbreak of Virus; Trump Voting Today Before Heading to Rallies in Three COVID Hotspots; Heavily Armed man Charged With Possessing Child Pornography Researched Joe Biden, Judge Says; Joe Biden Holds Big Cash Advantage 10 Days From Election; Biden Holds Big Cash Advantage 10 Days from Election; Second Breonna Taylor Juror Confirms Homicide Charges Were Not Offered; Ghislaine Maxwell Loses Appeal to Keep 2016 Deposition Sealed. Aired 6-7a ET

Aired October 24, 2020 - 06:00   ET




UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is CNN. More people get their news from CNN than any other news source


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We have some breaking news. The U.S. reporting more than 80,000 new COVID-19 cases.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We are now in the full surge.

DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: We're rounding the turn. We're rounding the corner. It's going away.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The truth of the matter is that we're turning the corner into a tsunami.

JOE BIDEN (D), PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: As president, I'll mandate mask wearing in all federal buildings and all interstate transportation because masks save lives. Period.

DR. ANTHONY FAUCI, DIRECTOR, NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF ALLERGY AND INFECTIOUS DISEASES: We really need to double down on the kind of public health measures that we've been talking about so long.

BIDEN: We don't have to be held prisoner by this administration's failures.


CHRISTI PAUL, CNN ANCHOR: Good morning to you on this Saturday, October 24th. I'm Christi Paul. We got somebody else up early with us this morning.

BORIS SANCHEZ, CNN ANCHOR: Good morning, Christi. I'm Boris Sanchez in for Victor Blackwell. Always a pleasure to see you. We haven't gotten a chance to do this together in about a year. It's crazy to think about how much the world has changed since then.

PAUL: Oh my gosh. And look at where we are now, Boris.


PAUL: No kidding. Look at where we are now. Ten days until this election and while we are rounding the final turn of the 2020 race, you just heard what the President said there, we are not, as he insisted again yesterday, rounding the turn of this pandemic.

SANCHEZ: Yes. The U.S. now reporting its highest number of new coronavirus infections in one day since this pandemic started. Again, the highest number of new infections in a single day. More than 83,000 new cases added just yesterday.

PAUL: So I want to let those numbers sink in for you and pull out some of these numbers that are so important. Hospitalizations, for example, have increased by 33 percent this month which means, right now, there are 41,000 people in the hospital fighting this virus.

SANCHEZ: CNN correspondent Polo Sandoval joins us now live from New York with the latest and part of the concern here, Polo, is that we really haven't hit the apex of this fall surge. The next few months are going to be worse.

POLO SANDOVAL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Boris and Christi, you keep hearing it from those medical experts that the worst potentially is still ahead here and that number that you just mentioned, we cannot say it enough, 83,000 new cases, that is the highest number of new confirmed COVID cases in the country ever. Those are over 83,000 people that are just starting their fight against COVID. Here in New York, there is concern about hospitalizations as well, the highest since June.


SANDOVAL: This D.C. art display is a visual representation of the lives taken by a virus that seems to be surging again. Over 223,000 dead and counting. More than eight months into the COVID crisis, hospitalizations and infections are at an all-time high in many states across the country. This week marked the first time since late July that the number of daily new cases exceeded 71,000.

FAUCI: If you look at the numbers of the daily infections, the upticks on the map of more than 30 states that are having upticks, it's not going to spontaneously turn around unless we do something about it.

SANDOVAL: As the President claims that we are rounding the turn on the pandemic, his opponent and many medical experts are warning we are only headed toward a dark winter.

PETER HOTEZ, DEAN, BAYLOR COLLEGE OF MEDICINE, NATIONAL SCHOOL OF TROPICAL MEDICINE: The reality is that the worst could be yet to come and that the beginning has been more or less the warm-up act for what's about to hit and we're already seeing that across the northern states. If you look at a COVID-19 heat map, the whole northern part is lit up. SANDOVAL: With hope hanging on a safe COVID-19, vaccine drug maker AstraZeneca said Friday that it has the green light from the Food and Drug Administration to resume its vaccine trial in the U.S.. It had been on pause in September after a volunteer in Britain developed a neurological condition.

The head of the National Institutes of Health is growing increasingly worried that even after a safe vaccine is approved, a growing number of Americans may not be willing to take it. A recent CNN poll found 45 percent would not try to get a vaccine even if one was widely available, possibly allowing the virus to stick around for years, says Dr. Francis Collins.

DR. FRANCIS COLLINS, DIRECTOR, NATIONAL INSTITUTES OF HEALTH: I've been talking so optimistically about how we are likely to have a vaccine by the end of the year, but if only 50 percent of Americans are interested in taking it, we're never going to get to that point of immunity across the population where this COVID-19 goes away.

SANDOVAL: This week, an updated model published in the journal "Nature" forecasts some possible grim scenarios, suggesting that we could see up to a million COVID deaths in the U.S. by the end of February if social distancing mandates are eased and only about half the population wears masks in public. Anthony Fauci, the nation's top infectious disease expert, tells CNN he thinks the U.S. should just mandate mask use.

FAUCI: I get the argument saying, well, if you mandate a mask, then you're going to have to enforce it and that'll create more of a problem.


Well, if people are not wearing masks, then maybe we should be mandating it.

SANDOVAL: This weekend, Big Ten football is back, prompting some of the mayors in college towns involved to ask the conference for help fighting the spread of the virus. The mayors wrote that football games, quote, "Generate a lot of activity, social gatherings and the consumption of alcohol. These activities within our communities have also been associated with an increased spread of COIVD-19."


SANDOVAL: And health officials believe that small gatherings largely to blame for many of these increases, specifically some of those family events, Boris and Christi. In fact, yesterday we heard from Maryland's governor -- at least this week we heard from the governor who says that that was one of the main causes of transmission in the state, followed by house parties, guys.

PAUL: All righty. Polo Sandoval, great wrap up for us. Thank you so much.

SANDOVAL: Thank you. SANCHEZ: The pandemic is going to be a major challenge for whoever wins the election and a record number of Americans are handing down their verdict early. More than 52 million ballots have already been cast. That's according to a survey of election officials by CNN, Edison Research and Catalist.

PAUL: Now, that figure eclipses 2016's pre-election total in 38 states. That's where data were reported at that time. It's more than 38 percent of the 136 million total ballots cast in 2016.

SANCHEZ: That is an incredible figure and today both campaigns are busy in the battleground states. President Trump is heading to North Carolina, Ohio and Wisconsin. Vice President Pence, he's hitting two stops in Florida. The Democratic nominee meantime, Joe Biden, has two events in Pennsylvania and his running mate, Senator Kamala Harris, will be in Ohio. Notably, former President Barack Obama is stumping for Biden in South Florida.

PAUL: And President Trump begins his day there in Florida. CNN's Sarah Westwood's there in West Palm Beach right now. So the President's got big rallies. I mean -- I mean his schedule today, North Carolina, Ohio, Wisconsin, the point is those are also three COVID hot spots. So what do we expect from him on the trail today?

SARAH WESTWOOD, CNN WHITE HOUSE REPORTER: That's right. Good morning, Boris and Christi. And yes, President Trump waking up this morning at his Mar-a-Lago Club here in Florida for the first time since before the pandemic. He has not traveled down there since March 6th, so obviously a lot has changed since the last time we were all here, but he's got a very busy day today 10 days out from Election Day in this final sprint.

And first off is voting, presumably for himself, here in Florida. He's registered here in Florida. Voting in person, which is the method, obviously, that he has been aggressively pushing his supporters to take when it comes to voting over the option of mail-in voting. Then he heads off to those trio of campaign rallies in North Carolina, Ohio and Wisconsin, all states that he won in 2016, but all states where the margin is either very thin or where he's trailing Joe Biden, so clearly trying to shore up support in states that will be crucial come 10 days from now.

In rallies yesterday, we saw the President continue to promote this optimism about the end of the pandemic that really just isn't rooted in any facts as, of course, we are seeing spikes in new infection cases just across this country. Let's take a listen to what he said in Pensacola.


TRUMP: A safe vaccine that quickly ends this horrible pandemic and we're rounding the turn with or without the vaccine. We have the vaccines, they're going to be great, but with or without it, we're rounding the turn. Normal life, that's all we want, fully resuming. We want normal life to fully resume and that's happening.


WESTWOOD: Now, images of the President's rallies have often shown people not wearing masks, some of them not adhering to social distancing guidelines. Local officials have often cautioned the President against holding these rallies in their cities and in their states, but yesterday in the villages and at another campaign event here in Florida, the President continued his sort of ambivalence about following the social distancing guidelines that his own administration has been putting forward.


TRUMP: You know what? Some people want to stay in and that's good. Do it. Do it. You know, I'm sort of like lead your life, right? And some people agree with me, some people -- but if you want to stay in, if you want to do what you're doing, you do it. If you want to get out, you want to be careful and socially distance and all of the things and you can wear a mask if you can't socially distance, but there are a lot of things you can do, but some people want to stay in.


WESTWOOD: The President's closing argument clearly seems to be based on, in part, a gamble that people are not as afraid of the virus as they used to be and that's even as the death toll in this country is continuing to climb and today his rally is packed with multiple visits to multiple states. That's the kind of aggressive schedule that we do expect him to keep up over the next 10 days in this final sprint to Election Day, Boris and Christi.

SANCHEZ: Yes, Sarah. I think you hit the nail on the head saying that it's not rooted in fact. We have the highest number of new COVID infections in one day and yet the President says that we're leaving it behind, that COVID is something in the past.


Sarah Westwood with the President in Florida. Thanks so much.

PAUL: So we just kind of ran through where the President and Joe Biden are going to be today. We know that there's this who's who of Democratic party leaders who are going to be on the ground for Biden in eight battleground states today.

SANCHEZ: Yes. The former vice president and his wife, Jill Biden, are campaigning in Pennsylvania. CNN's MJ Lee has more.

MJ LEE, CNN POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT: Hey. Good morning, Christi and Boris. At this point in the race at every Joe Biden speech or campaign event, we are seeing him talk a lot about the COVID-19 pandemic and the crisis. It is clear at this point that this virus is going to be so central to his closing message as we get closer and closer to Election Day.

Of course earlier this week on Thursday night, we saw the very different visions presented by President Trump and the former vice president, President Trump at some points even describing the situation as almost a rosy situation, whereas the former vice president, Joe Biden, said that a dark winter was ahead of us.

And in a speech yesterday here in Wilmington, Delaware, Biden sort of pulled all of these threads together into one comprehensive speech and laid out his own vision for what he would do with this virus if he were elected president, talking about the enforcement of mask wearing, what he would do with the distribution of vaccine and PPE and also went after what he sees as the failures of President Trump in handling this virus and even said that he believes the President has quit on the American people.

Now, an important running theme that we saw in that speech yesterday from Biden was basically asking Americans to imagine a better future when it comes to this pandemic. Take a listen.


BIDEN: We don't have to be held prisoner by this administration's failures. We can choose a different path. Imagine a day in a not too distant future when you can enjoy dinner with your friends and your family and maybe even go out to a movie, when you can celebrate your birthday, weddings, graduations surrounded by your nearest and dearest friends.


LEE: Now, the Biden campaign has said that we should expect to see the former vice president with a robust schedule in these final days. Later today, we are going to see him campaigning in Pennsylvania, including in the Philadelphia suburbs. And this is a state, I should remind you, that President Trump narrowly won in 2016, but a recent CNN poll showed that Biden had a 10-point lead in the state against President Trump. Christi and Boris, back to you.

SANCHEZ: Yes. It may all wind up coming down to Pennsylvania. MJ Lee, thank you for that reporting. Still to come, Dr. Anthony Fauci says a considerable number of lives could have been saved if public health measures had been followed. Our medical expert, Saju Mathew, weighs in on what needs to be done as we head into the winter months.

PAUL: And we're also learning that a 19-year-old heavily armed man in federal custody now researched Joe Biden and came quite close to his Delaware home. We have more details for you on that. Stay close.




SANCHEZ: Surgeon General Jerome Adams warned that the United States could see its highest number of new coronavirus cases since the pandemic began this upcoming week.

PAUL: And, you know, he was right. As of yesterday, the U.S. reported an all-time high of more than 82,000 new cases in a single day and 32 states seeing a rise in infections. Here's Dr. Fauci on the impact of following public health measures.


FAUCI: I don't want to put a number on it because, you know, that's a model study, but I feel quite confident that if we had uniformly done the things that I was talking about just a moment ago, that certainly considerable number of lives could have been saved.


SANCHEZ: Joining me now to discuss is public health specialist and primary care physician Saju Mathew. Saju, thank you so much for joining us, getting up early this morning to discuss. We just heard Dr. Fauci on how adhering to public safety measures could save a tremendous number of lives. So how do we reset and turn this pandemic around?

SAJU MATHEW, PRIMARY CARE PHYSICIAN & PUBLIC HEALTH SPECIALIST: Yes. Good morning, Boris. You know, I always say, listen, we should learn from history. I was reading about the Spanish flu pandemic back in 1918 where 500 million people, a third of the world's population, was affected and 15 million people died and guess when most of the people died -- they died at the beginning of that second peak in October- November of the year 1918.

You know, it's almost a dark, sobering thought that we are exactly kind of at that same place. Now, at that time, it was in the middle of the war and the soldiers were carrying the virus with them, people were living in tight spaces, but guess what -- quarantine fatigue hit these people. They took off the masks, went in the streets and that's when most people died and unfortunately we are at that point right now.

We've got people who are saying I'm done with this pandemic, I thought that all I had to do was to follow these measures for three months, you know, we don't have a vaccine, I want to live my life and what I would urge most Americans at this point, Boris, is to not give up. This is the time to hunker down and listen, just follow the simple guidelines. Wear the mask, wash your hands, watch that distance and make decisions about not going into indoor activities and large public gatherings. It's actually fairly simple.

SANCHEZ: Yes. So it's important to keep that concept of quarantine fatigue in mind, especially when you hear the President and other officials in his administration talk about rounding the corner.


How does it make you feel? Are you frustrated when you hear these officials talk about the pandemic in a way that sort of promotes the idea that this should be over already that might promote quarantine fatigue?

MATHEW: Yes. Exactly, Boris. You know, I'm a primary care physician and it's made my job so much harder. I feel like I have to educate every patient that I see whether they have COVID or not and help them realize that this is absolutely not a hoax. You know, ultimately if you look back, the reason that we're in the position that we are is we didn't really have any modeling from our top officials.

If you look at countries where they followed the rules, leaders that followed the science for us, these are the countries with the lowest rates. We just have to let science lead the way. The vaccine may or may not happen in the next six months, but until then, it's really important for leaders, politicians, physicians like myself to model the behavior and give people hope and speak the truth.

SANCHEZ: So speaking of the vaccine, there are currently four late stage Phase 3 trials in the United States. The National Institute of Health director, Dr. Francis Collins, says that he's cautiously optimistic that at least one vaccine might reach the public before the end of the year. When you look at the timeline, when do you anticipate that the general public might have access to a coronavirus vaccine?

MATHEW: I think we're looking at probably April-May of next year. Let's remember that a lot of the vaccine trials that are showing success like Moderna and Pfizer, they are two shots. You know, it's tough enough to get people to come back for a series of hepatitis shots at my office and much less think about getting Americans to come back for that second shot.

And let's also remember that this is not going to be a shot where you could walk into your primary care office. These shots have to be refrigerated at minus 70 degrees. So we're looking at buildings and establishments that have to be set up where people can safely get the vaccine and I hope that more than 50 percent, I'm hoping 70 to 80 percent of Americans will decide to get this vaccine when it is available.

SANCHEZ: Yes. It's certainly a lot to hope for, given so much skepticism around vaccines in general, not including skepticism about this pandemic in itself. Dr. Saju Mathew, thank you again for the time, sir.

MATHEW: Thank you.

PAUL: All right. Still to come, federal court documents say a man connected to a van filled with guns and explosive materials researched Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden. We'll have more details on what we've learned about him next.




SANCHEZ: A man who was arrested in North Carolina on child pornography charges also researched Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden.

PAUL: His name's 19-year-old Alexander Treisman. He searched for Biden's home address online and eventually ended up about four miles of Biden's home in Delaware. Here's CNN's Josh Campbell with more.

JOSH CAMPBELL, CNN SECURITY CORRESPONDENT: It was an abandoned van full of weapons in a North Carolina bank parking lot that would ultimately lead FBI agents to a man who allegedly researched and traveled near the residence of former Vice President Joe Biden. According to a new filing in federal court, that man, 19-year-old Alexander Treisman, was initially arrested in May on a weapons violation and later indicted by a grand jury for possession of child pornography after authorities searched his phone and computers.

Now, according to the detention order signed by a federal magistrate judge, Treisman had conducted online searches of Biden's residence and traveled within four miles of the Democratic presidential nominee's home. According to the judge, authorities also found a checklist believed to have been written by Treisman which included the word execute and he allegedly posted an online meme posing the question, "Should I kill Joe Biden?"

In addition to numerous firearms belonging to Treisman, authorities also seized drawings of swastikas and planes crashing into buildings, downloaded images of the 2019 mosque shootings in Christchurch, New Zealand as well as a note on Treisman's cell phone describing plans for a mass shooting. CNN is attempting to reach Treisman's attorney, but according to the new court document, his attorney indicated that his client has been diagnosed with Asperger syndrome and the court noted that Treisman had no prior criminal history.

Although a grand jury indicted Treisman for possession of child pornography, he has not been charged in relation to the weapons in his possession nor his research or writings on Joe Biden. Prosecutors declined to talk about any potential future charges.

PAUL: Josh, thank you so much. So we are down to the final 10 days. Can you believe it? Ten days until the presidential election and a new round of FEC filings show just how big Joe Biden's cash advantage is right now over President Trump. Take a look at the cash on hand here. The former vice president has $162 million in the bank. Look at that comparatively to President Trump who has $43 million on hand.

Now, if you include money raised by political action committees, Biden's lead is still there. Altogether, there is a lopsidedness here, $107 million advantage for Joe Biden heading into the final days of this campaign. I want to bring in CNN political commentator and host of the podcast "You Decide," Errol Louis. Errol, good morning to you. Ten days, buddy.


PAUL: Ten days to go.

LOUIS: Good.

PAUL: And we're just -- good. Listen to him. Good. Let's get this done, he's saying. $107 million cash advantage for Biden. What exactly does that equate to at the end of the day?


LOUIS: Well, at the end of the day, it amounts to resources. It doesn't really take off the Biden campaign the pressure and the obligation to figure out where they're going to go. You can spend that money very quickly in television ads in Florida for example or in Ohio or in Arizona or Michigan or Pennsylvania. The question becomes, which states are you going to target? And how much will be ground game? How much will be online? The kind of direct appeal that you can reach people through Facebook, for example, or traditional television ads, and trying to figure that out. Believe me, right now, there are a bunch of strategists who stayed up all night and are still trying to figure this out. So, a $100 million advantage is a great thing to have in the last ten days, but not if you use it incorrectly, Christi.

PAUL: Yes, a very good point. So, let's look at where the candidates are going to be in the next couple of days. President Trump starting today in Florida. He is expected to vote before he leaves that state, to go to North Carolina, Ohio and Wisconsin. That's just today. Vice President Biden is going to be in Bucks County and Luzerne County, Pennsylvania, we know that. Those are all battleground states. What do you read from these travel schedules?

LOUIS: The fact that the candidate is in Wisconsin for President Trump tells you that they're trying to make a serious move there, that the different places that they found success four years ago which gave them the victory, Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin is still in play. That's what his travel schedule tells me. The fact that Obama, by the way, is going to be in southern Florida, it means that the Biden campaign wants to at a minimum tie up Trump's resources in Florida. They may not be able to win the state, but they certainly want to make a fight of it. And here again, it's something like ten media markets, Christi.

It's really expensive to try and compete in Florida and to try and push the Trump campaign to spend its dwindling hours and its dwindling resources in Florida, means that the Biden team may be trying to sort of tie them down there, shore up what they're doing in the Midwest and bring home a victory that way.

PAUL: So, we're talking about, you know, the money they have, how they're spending it, where they're spending it. But let's talk about the message here. David Gergen, last night, I was listening to him and he pointed out that these Trump rallies don't help Trump necessarily reach any new voters that he needs to win. I mean, they're talking about how the rallies don't equate to really giving the public an answer on COVID and how you're going to tackle it. They don't seem to be extracting support from Biden. So, maybe these rallies for the president, he says are miscalculation. He believes that if Biden wins, it's likely going to be because he believes the science behind COVID. Do you think that will be Vice President Biden's ticket?

LOUIS: Well, that is a very astute observation. The problem that Trump has encountered over and over again is that, this is the issue. He doesn't want people to let, as he's put it, COVID dominate their lives. Well, it is dominating all of our lives, and not just because of the media. It's cold-heart reality that he's running against, and reality seems to be winning. So, yes, a message that Joe Biden can bring, saying that we have to do something different, that over 200,000 deaths is a catastrophic toll that these sitting president cannot be expected to be forgiven on.

And so, yes, it's a really effective message because everybody, I think is looking for some plan and some way out of this. If the message from the Trump campaign is, hey, just ignore it and go about your life, well, we've tried that. It doesn't work. And so politically, Joe Biden really starts out with a huge message advantage there, and Trump's decision to, you know, kind of mobilize his base rather than try and persuade others to come to his side is going to be something that may leave him short by the time we finish counting all the votes.

PAUL: There have been several conversations about the importance of the African-American vote in North Carolina. The African-American vote is important anywhere, but why North Carolina specifically is it so imperative?

LOUIS: Well, it's a very large percentage of the vote in North Carolina. And that's just the -- you know, the long and short of it. And you also, by the way, you find it in rural counties as well as the cities. So it's not just, you know, Raleigh and Durham and Charlotte. You've got a lot of other places where there's a big black community. When you -- when you start to sort of go through it though and look at what's happening with early voting, you know, North Carolina is a place where they've been doing sort of rallies and voter registration on a weekly basis.

You know, they've been doing this moral Mondays crusade for years and years and years. So, you've got a highly activated base. And that's what brought narrow victories for Barack Obama. They're going to try and reproduce that now. You can't write off that many electoral votes. So, the Trump campaign has got to really sort of focus on it, and it's going to make North Carolina a very serious battleground in these last ten days. Christi?


PAUL: Very good to know. Errol Louis, always grateful to have your perspective with us, thank you, sir.

LOUIS: Thank you.

PAUL: Absolutely. You can count on CNN to bring you coverage of the 2020 elections throughout the entire day. Tonight, join CNN's Randi Kaye. She's talking with voters for a special report, "DIVIDED WE STAND: INSIDE AMERICA'S ANGER". That is tonight at 10:00 p.m.

SANCHEZ: And still ahead, a second grand juror now says that homicide charges were not offered for the jury to consider against the officers involved in the death of Breonna Taylor. Your "LEGAL BRIEF" with Joey Jackson is up next after a quick break.



PAUL: So uncertainty is defined so much of this year, hasn't it? There's one call that's been repeated over and over around the world though at protests and on social media, and that is justice for Breonna Taylor. She was a black medical worker. She was killed by Louisville police officers in March in a botched raid on her apartment. Well, now, two grand jurors in the case have confirmed the jury was not offering homicide charges to consider against those officers involved. But the comments challenged statements previously made by Kentucky's Attorney General. CNN's legal analyst Joey Jackson here to explain why this is so significant. Joey, thank you so much for getting up early for us, we always appreciate your expertise here. Talk to us about -- will you please, what the reason would be not to include homicide charges in this, the defense?

JOEY JACKSON, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Yes, so, you know, this is -- this is very concerning, Christi. Good morning to you. And it is for a number of reasons. We know we have a process, and just backing up. What grand jury, just to be clear, unlike a trial jury is not there to determine proof of guilt beyond a reasonable doubt, they're not even there to, you know, do anything with regard to voting unanimously or anything like that. What the grand jury simply does is number one, assess whether there's reasonable cause to believe a crime was committed, and number two, whether the subject of the proceeding committed it.

That proceeding is largely run by the district attorney or the state's attorney or the person from the state who's presenting. In this case, you have the state attorney acting as special prosecutor. We all heard the expression, Christi, that a grand jury can indict a ham sandwich, why? Because they're largely controlled by what the prosecutor wants them to consider. Here it was common knowledge and understanding, obviously, that there was a death, a homicide. So why not put before them the ability and give them the ability with the facts and information to vote on that?

So, now, we're hearing from grand jurors that what the state attorneys general said he did is far different from what he did do. And so as a result of that, you have the release of this grand jury transcript and the release of the grand jurors allowing them to speak, which is suggesting that you told the public that you presented charges, there was no justification, the grand jury was about trying to do justice. And they said, wait a minute, we didn't get any of that stuff. And so homicide to your initial point would be something clearly you would think they would consider. They did not. Justification in terms of self-defense, Christi, something they should consider, clearly, they did not. So, this is troubling and problematic, and I think it's all coming out, and really goes against the trust that the public has for the process and that is a shame.

PAUL: Yes, we know we'll keep up on that and let you know how that progresses, let our viewers know here. We do want to get to Ghislaine Maxwell as well real quickly here because this deposition of her connected to this 2015 defamation case was brought up today. It was unsealed this week. This was a civil case that was settled in 2017, it's 418 pages. It's a transcript. Apparently, she refused to answer a lot of questions. This was about Epstein's former -- she's Epstein's former girlfriend and allegedly sex trafficking accomplice. What stood out to you in the unsealed papers that we now have some knowledge of?

JACKSON: So quite a bit. To your point, Christi, we're talking about 418 pages. Just to back up in a deposition, what happens is, there's no judge there, it's an attorney who is asking questions of a person who has to answer them, in this case Miss Maxwell. At that time, you're sworn to tell the truth, you know, ask specific questions as to your conduct here, what did you know about Jeffrey Epstein? What his activities were? What he was doing? Who he was employed by? Was he bringing in underage women? At any point in time, did you have any awareness of this? Was he giving massages to anyone who was underage? What was his activities? Were you giving massages?

So, there were a lot of questions that were posed to her under oath. We do know, Christi, as a result of the indictment that you're facing and the criminal charges, that while it may be unsealed to us, that prosecutors had, in fact, this deposition and used that for the perjury charges he's facing. And so what stood out to me, to your initial point was, I don't know, don't recall, don't remember, wasn't there. That's number one. And number two, the specifics of the question she's asked which seems to have maligned the truth with regard to what Jeffrey Epstein was doing, when he was doing it and who he was doing it with. Everyone's innocent until presumed guilty.


The public will make its determination in reviewing the transcripts whether she was fair or accurate. But when she's prosecuted, she'll have to answer for, was she truthful or was she not?

PAUL: OK, yes, that trial for her coming up in July of 2021. Joey Jackson, always good to see you. Thank you so much.

JACKSON: Thank you, Christi. Have a great day.

SANCHEZ: So, what happens when you lose one of the best home field advantages in college football? You bring it home. Check out all the fans dancing, Big 10 football is back.


PAUL: Forty nine minutes past the hour, and a Los Angeles Dodgers were lights out in game three at the World Series last night.

SANCHEZ: And Coy Wire joins us now. Coy, the Dodgers retaking the Series lead. The Rays though never really had a shot.


COY WIRE, CNN SPORTS REPORTER: Hi, Boris, Christi, that's exactly right. On Thursday after losing game two, one Dodgers player said not only are we the most talented team, but we've got that swagger. Well, they backed that up in game 3 last night, 11,000 fans in Arlington under a closed roof for the first time since this post-season due to rain. Dodgers ace Walker Buehler nearly untouchable, throwing a no hitter through five. He finishes with a career playoff, that's ten strikeouts, and their bats just as fierce. Justin Turner launching a franchise record, tying 11 career post-season homerun. He was already the club's all-time leader in post-season hits, RBIs and doubles. L.A. wins 6-2, taking a 2-1 Series lead.

And Big Ten football is back. And nearly fanless scene at Camp Randall last night, number 14 Wisconsin hosting Illinois as Madison deals with a surge in COVID cases. But the Badgers making their own noise. Red shirt freshman QB Graham Mertz, Wisconsin's first freshman starter and a season opener since 1978 completes his first 17 passes. Even Boris couldn't do that. A dropped pass in the third was his only incompletion, going 20-21. In his five passing touchdowns ties a school record. Their iconic tradition, playing house of pain, jump around in the third, still happened just in pandemic fashion. Virtually, Wisconsin dominates 45-7 with Mertz still getting the hang of this whole post game presser thing and an unforgettable first start for him. Listen.


GRAHAM MERTZ, QUARTERBACK, WISCONSIN BADGERS: It's definitely weird not having any fans, but the boys just had a -- we kept saying all week, bring your own juice. Collin did a great job of kind of sending that home, and we always kind of fed up each other and I'm proud of everybody for that. And what was the first part of the question?


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Start of the first game --

MERTZ: Oh, start the first game. I mean, it was definitely fun.


WIRE: All right. And for the first time since 1943, the iconic Army- Navy game will be played on campus. The rivalry moving to West Point on December 12th. So both the Corps of Cadets and the Brigade of Midshipmen can attend. That wouldn't have been possible at its traditional Philadelphia location this year due to current attendance limitations for outdoor events in Pennsylvania. Though, there will likely be a bit more spread-out this year, but having those young men and women in attendance is part of what makes the Army-Navy game more than just a game. Dating back to 1890, Christi and Boris, it's a celebration of the future defenders of our nation.

PAUL: And Amen to that. Coy Wire, thank you so much.

SANCHEZ: Good to see you, Coy.

PAUL: And thank you to them for their service, too, we should point out.

SANCHEZ: That's right, yes. Next, Minneapolis has already gotten record-setting snow, and there is actually more on the way. And speaking of snow, it could provide temporary relief for some of those wildfires out west. Allison Chinchar is up next with your weather update.

PAUL: That could be the good news out of it. Listen, as we head to break for the many people who have lost their homes to those wildfires in California, CNN Hero Woody Faircloth is providing them with shelter. Take a look.


WOODY FAIRCLOTH, FOUNDER, EMERGENCYRV.ORG: Unfortunately, this fire has really affected a lot of first responders. Six of the seven volunteer firefighters in Berry Creek, California lost their homes including the chief, and so, Lou(ph) and I did what we do, we sourced a couple of donated RVs and we headed out to California, we delivered one to chief Reed Rankin.

REED RANKIN, BERRY CREEK, CALIFORNIA FIRE DEPARTMENT: I just can't say thank you enough, but thank you. I deeply appreciate because want to be coming on another month and a half. At least we've got somewhere to be.

FAIRCLOTH: Yes, he loves his community.

RANKIN: It's huge. I mean, I just don't have much words, but it's huge --

FAIRCLOTH: A couple thousand of his neighbors are left homeless, 15 killed were killed in the fire and you know, they've been through a lot. But the chief still out there every day on the line fighting the fire.

RANKIN: I'd like to start over somehow, and I just got to get everything done up here and get the fire completely out, get people back in to see this stuff. And then I could start trying to figure out what I'm going to do. But I'm definitely staying in Berry Creek. I'm definitely going to somehow rebuild, hopefully FEMA will help us out.


PAUL: For Woody's full story, go to



SANCHEZ: A mix of fire and ice in this weekend's forecast. Fire conditions remain poor in parts of the west, but a little bit of snow could offer some relief.

PAUL: Yes, people in Spokane, Washington, got a little taste of it. Take a look at this. More than six inches fell in the city yesterday. Local meteorologists say it's the most snow they've seen in the month of October.

SANCHEZ: Yes, for more on the record cold and snow, let's go to senior CNN meteorologist Allison Chinchar. And Allison, who is turning on the heat and lighting their fireplaces this weekend? ALLISON CHINCHAR, METEOROLOGIST: I would imagine a lot of people are

for the very first time so far this season. And again, it's not just a couple of states here. Take a look at all of these dots, they represent who could end up seeing possible records over the next several days. So, this is huge swath of the country, but it's not just the cold, it's also the potential for some snow, sleet, freezing rain, all of that. We've got numerous states stretching from Washington all the way over towards Iowa that are under some type of Winter weather alert over the next few days. And it's for a lot of snow. Take a look at this. Widespread amounts of about 4 to 6 inches.

But especially near the Rocky Mountains, you could be talking well over a foot of snow. Now, here is the thing, in some spots, that's good news. Because it's still moisture at the end of the day. So, it can still help combat a lot of the fires that are ongoing in numerous states, but especially in Colorado, guys.