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Sick Man Triggers Ebola Scare On Plane; U.S. Ebola Patient In Critical Condition; College Football Upsets This Weekend; First U.S. Army Casualty in War on ISIS; Dealing with Liberia Outbreak in United States and West Africa; Anthony Bourdain Travels to Iran
Aired October 05, 2014 - 06:00 ET
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CHRISTI PAUL, CNN ANCHOR: You've made it to Sunday. Take a nice deep breath. I'm Christi Paul. We're glad to have you company.
VICTOR BLACKWELL, CNN ANCHOR: I'm Victor Blackwell. It's 6:00 here on the east coast.
PAUL: Yes, we want to start with the latest on the Ebola patient here in the U.S. really who is fighting for his life at this hour because Dallas hospital officials say Thomas Eric Duncan's condition seems to be getting worse.
The Liberian national is now listed in critical condition as the CDC monitors ten high-risk people who had close contact with him.
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DR. THOMAS FRIEDEN, CDC DIRETOR: We're confident none of those who had contact with him have symptoms related to Ebola.
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BLACKWELL: And an American doctor who successfully battled Ebola is back in the hospital now. Dr. Richard Sacra is in isolation this morning after he showed up at a Boston emergency room with a cough and fever, but doctors do not believe it's an Ebola relapse, but they are still waiting on test results.
PAUL: With so much concern about Ebola, obviously, the CDC quarantined more than 250 passengers on an international flight that arrived in New Jersey yesterday after a man got really sick on that flight. CNN's Cristina Alesci has more. Good morning, Cristina.
CRISTINA ALESCI, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Christi and Victor, a scare at Newark Liberty International Airport where 255 passengers were quarantined after a fellow passenger became ill.
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ALESCI (voice-over): The New Jersey Department of Health has ruled out Ebola in the case of a man who had been vomiting on United Flight 998 from Brussels. The passengers on board were held for more than 90 minutes after the plane landed about 12:15 on Saturday. Officials from the Centers for Disease Control assessed the man who had become ill during the flight. The Port Authority said it was a routine response to a sick passenger, but an airport official told CNN that authorities were taking precautions because of heightened concerns about Ebola.
The Port Authority released little information about the sick passenger during the ordeal, only that he was a 35-year-old traveling with his daughter and was taken to a nearby university hospital, but it declined to provide further information on where he had been traveling from. One passenger, Henry Costa, said the man was traveling from Liberia.
HENRY COSTA, PASSENGER ON UNITED AIRLINES FLIGHT 998: I talked with him before we boarded the flight from Liberia.
ALESCI: Before United 998 passengers were free to leave the airport, they were given a sheet of paper that described the signs and symptoms for Ebola. Passengers said they were concerned.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It was quite scary, but it would have been nice to get better information.
ALESCI: Definitely some relief after the health department ruled out Ebola, but it was a tense few hours for those aboard that plane.
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ALESCI: Well, it certainly seems like business as usual at Newark now, but this story definitely raises concerns for anyone flying -- Christi, Victor.
BLACKWELL: All right, Cristina Alesci reporting for us. Cristina, thanks. The one person who knows what those terrifying moments were like is Richard Burchette. He was sitting next to the sick passenger. He's on the phone with us from Newark, New Jersey.
Richard, thanks for speaking with us this morning. Walk us through what happened. This passenger nudged you and then what did he say?
RICHARD BURCHETTE, PASSENGER OF UNITED FLIGHT 998 (via telephone): At first it was kind of incoherent what he had to say, but -- so I asked him to repeat it and he asked for help so I paged the flight attendant. When the flight attendant came, he described symptoms that his eyes felt like they were floating, hurting really bad, said he had never experienced that before.
The flight attendant said, well, what would you like me to do for you or is there something I can get or would like for me to see if there's some medical personnel available? And he said, yes, yes, please do that.
PAUL: Was it obvious that he wasn't feeling well, Richard?
BURCHETTE: Up until that point it was not obvious, but then he had his face in his hands. Obviously, I had been watching an in-flight movie and hadn't really paid attention to what he had been doing up until that point.
BLACKWELL: So at some point the flight attendants came and they asked him where he was coming from and he said Liberia. They walked away and came back with masks.
BURCHETTE: Yes.
BLACKWELL: What was the reaction as that settled in on the plane, you've got a sick passenger, with all that's happening in the news, is traveling from Liberia?
BURCHETTE: So no one else besides myself and the flight crew were aware that that was the situation. They just knew that there was someone sick on the plane. They came over the intercom and paged for a doctor if there were any doctors or nurses available to please ring your call button.
Otherwise, there were no announcements made. We still had more than an hour of the flight to go. So no one else was aware besides myself and the flight crew.
PAUL: So how were you feeling at that point?
BURCHETTE: It was a little unnerving honestly. Actually I was kind of nervous up until the point after we landed. I immediately Googled on my smartphone and after reading some and how hard it is to contract Ebola, me personally anyway, I was calmed considerably by some of the information that I found.
BLACKWELL: So what happened once you got to the airport there in Newark?
BURCHETTE: So that's the little bit scary part to me and again the part I hope we learn from. Once we landed at the airport, we were on the plane for about an hour and a half and eventually released after they had taken him off.
But we entered the general population of the airport when we were released and although everyone was saying we were quarantined, it depends on your definition of quarantine.
Quarantined, we were not allowed to leave the airport, yes, but there were many, many other passengers interacting with us. We were all allowed to use the general bathrooms that flights were using, so we weren't really separated. So that's the concerning thing to me.
PAUL: So your final thoughts, do you feel like the airline did what they could have done, everything they could have done? Do you think there was an overreaction?
BURCHETTE: Well, I think the airline did a really nice job and the flight attendants and the flight crew were great. I just don't feel like the coordinated emergency response -- and, again, I don't know if it should have been coordinated by the CDC or who, but it wasn't clear what to do once we arrived at the airport. There were several different people giving directions and many times they were conflicting. Really kind of general chaos and I know the news reports say we were released after 90 minutes. We were on the plane for 90 minutes and then released, but the total ordeal was 4 1/2, 5 hours before we were allowed to actually leave the airport.
PAUL: Wow. All right, well, Richard Burchette, we so appreciate you taking the time to talk to us today. Glad that you're all OK and thank you again.
BLACKWELL: Thank you, Richard.
BURCHETTE: You're welcome.
PAUL: Best of luck to you.
BLACKWELL: That's been the concern that we've heard from so many people is that the federal government says that we know how to do this, we know how to execute this, but now this is another example where people who are in the midst of it say --
PAUL: Are questioning it.
BLACKWELL: -- do you really need to know what you're doing.
PAUL: You know, a pivotal point too we need to tell you about in the U.S. battle against ISIS. A 21-year-old Marine has become the conflict's first casualty.
BLACKWELL: Plus, Thomas Eric Duncan, that's the man in U.S. who has confirmed case of Ebola slips from serious to critical condition. He is now in intensive care. CNN's Nick Valencia is in Dallas.
NICK VALENCIA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning. New details about the health of Ebola patient, Thomas Duncan. We'll give all of that after the break. This is CNN NEW DAY.
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PAUL: Wake up, Chicago. We're waiting for you here. I know. You saw your first snowflakes yesterday.
BLACKWELL: Snow already.
PAUL: What? You know what my daughter would say? Really? Really? It's going to be in the 40s for you and a little bit cloudy today, but there are the lights of the city at this hour this morning and we're glad you're waking up with us. Thanks for being here. We want to get you caught up on the morning read this morning.
BLACKWELL: Let's do it. A 21-year-old Marine is believed to be the first American casualty in the fight against ISIS. Corporal Jordan Spears bailed out of his plane as it was about to crash in the northern Persian Gulf.
The plane did not crash as the pilot regained control. But Jordan's body was lost at sea. Pentagon officials says they are not sure how his death will be classified. He was 21 years old.
PAUL: In New Jersey, a 4-year-old boy who went to bed fine one night last week died before morning and has tested positive for the Enterovirus D68. The medical examiner says the boy -- he died suddenly from a particularly devastating strain of this virus. The child's death is the first in which health authorities have definitively cited enterovirus as the cause.
BLACKWELL: Big business news now, a ground beef recall to tell you about. Sam Kane Beef Processors of Texas is recalling more than 90,000 pounds of ground beef after customers complained of finding metal in the meat. The USDA says one reported breaking a tooth. All of the meat was shift to Texas stores.
PAUL: An ultra-marathoner may manage to successfully run across the U.S. twice, but his first attempt to run in an inflatable bubble from Florida to Bermuda? That didn't go so well. The Coast Guard rescued the exhausted (inaudible) after he signalled for help. Rescuers says he just got caught in the gulfstream and he wasn't able to muscle his way out.
BLACKWELL: All right, the weather now, we are closely watching Typhoon Phanfone. The powerful storm is closing in on Japan. High winds, rain already hitting in Ireland.
In the coming hours, Tokyo is one of the three major cities in the storm's path. An estimated 85 million people could be impacted. Japanese officials are also concerned the typhoon's heavy rainfall will trigger mudslides. So we'll of course watch that.
All right, more now on the big story we are watching this morning. The Ebola scare right here in the U.S.
PAUL: Test results for a U.S. doctor who survived really frightening bout with Ebola and is now back in the hospital. Those results are expected tomorrow and the Massachusetts doctors do not think Dr. Rick Sacra has Ebola again, but they're keeping him quarantined until they know for certain.
BLACKWELL: Here's the story. On Friday before he became ill, Dr. Sacra says he's hopeful in NBC freelance cameraman stricken with Ebola in Liberia will recover at the same Nebraska hospital where Sacra was treated for the disease. Listen.
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DR. RICK SACRA, EBOLA SURVIVOR: You know, I think he has ever good expectation that he's going to pull through this and I certainly hope the best for him.
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PAUL: Let's get the latest now on the condition of the first patient diagnosed on U.S. soil with Ebola. That, of course, is Thomas Eric Duncan. BLACKWELL: CNN's Nick Valencia joins us from Dallas outside the hospital where Duncan is being treated. Nick, do we know much about how he's being treated? We know that he's now in critical condition.
VALENCIA: We don't know the details, Victor, about what the hospital is doing. They of course is saying they are doing all they can and they have a strong infrastructure and the resources to do that.
Yesterday Texas Presbyterian Hospital saying that he had slipped from serious condition to critical condition, but just to get some context here. Dr. Nancy Writebol, the American aid worker who contracted the illness working in Liberia in August.
She had a three-week battle with the illness and she gotten worse before she got better. Now every case, of course, is different, but again, Texas Presbyterian saying that they're doing all they can to help this guy out and that they hope for a very optimistic outcome out of this -- Victor, Christi.
PAUL: You know, Nick, we understand a Dallas judge actually drove four people, Duncan's girlfriend, her son, two nephews, who had close contact with him to a secure location. Do we know anything more about that and how they are doing?
VALENCIA: Yes, we haven't gotten an update about the family, but so far we know that no one other than Thomas Duncan has shown signs of having Ebola, no symptoms and Dallas County Judge Clay Jenkins reiterated that point that he personally drove the four from that apartment complex to this temporary housing in Dallas as sort of a way to ease public concern.
A lot of people are very nervous, certainly very curious about what's going on here, but he said he would never have put himself in jeopardy or done that if there was a risk to himself. He has an 8-year-old girl. He wouldn't bring it back to the family.
Still though, you know, I spent some time here in the community yesterday talking to locals and the opinions vary about how people feel about Ebola. Some people joking about it. Some people saying it's more serious than it is being reported in the media.
The opinions really are various, but we are all watching Thomas Duncan, this first case diagnosed here in the United States and curious, I think, to how this will all turn out -- Victor, Christi.
BLACKWELL: All right, Nick Valencia there outside the hospital where Thomas Duncan we know is now in intensive care. The only case, confirmed case of Ebola here in the U.S. Nick Valencia, thank you so much.
PAUL: Thank you, Nick.
Well, a historic filibuster in Washington, D.C., last night. This one not on Capitol Hill.
BLACKWELL: No, no. That filibuster line came from Rand Paul. It was a marathon session at the ballpark.
PAUL: My goodness. Did you sit through it? I don't know.
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PAUL: OK, you don't have to ask what they did yesterday. The hunt for a spot in the college football playoffs got wide open. We're calling it upset Saturday.
BLACKWELL: Huge upsets. Five of the top eight teams lost this week. Kristen Ledlow has more on this morning's "Bleacher Report."
PAUL: This is what makes it fun, though, isn't it?
KRISTEN LEDLOW, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes. We were talking getting those fleets. This is what you were doing all day yesterday. Now the Playoff Selection Committee actually have three more weekends before those official rankings are released.
They will have their hands full deciding which four teams will play for the national championship. Now top ranked Florida State won, but after that the chaos begin and arguably the biggest game in school history.
Number 11 Ole Miss rallied from a fourth quarter deficit to stun number 3 Alabama. Quarterback Bow Wallace throwing a 10-yard touchdown pass with less than 3 minutes to go to put the Rebels ahead.
Now the Crimson Tide did have a shot with time running out. They sealed the win with a steal in the end zone and Mississippi is now 5-0 for the first time since the JFK administration.
PAUL: Wow.
LEDLOW: Impressive, right? Now number 25, TCU will also jump into that national championship conversation after yesterday's huge game against Oklahoma. Now with the game tied in the fourth quarter, Paul Dawson intercepted the Sooners' pass, took it 41 yards for the score.
Now the extra point not so automatic. It's blocked and runs back for the very rare two-point play. But that wasn't going to be quite enough for Oklahoma. The Horned Frogs beat the Sooners at home for the first time in six tries with a 37-33 upset.
Get this you, guys. It may have taken six hours and 23 minutes, but the San Francisco Giants are now leading the National League division series two games to none facing the Washington Nationals in the nation's capital.
The Giants saw the longest game in Major League post-season history last night. San Francisco was left to rally in the ninth inning to tie the game and then came Brandon Felt to blast a solo home run to secure the 2-1 win. Hunter Strickland did close out in the bottom for the save. Game three is tomorrow at 3:07 Eastern.
PAUL: I'm done with it and he -- LEDLOW: It's time to go home.
BLACKWELL: Double to free baseball is enough. We understand they ran out of beer at some point.
LEDLOW: And food as well, yes.
BLACKWELL: The fun's over. The fun's over. Out of beer, food's gone, good night.
PAUL: For more sports visit bleacherreport.com, by the way.
BLACKWELL: Here's an important question. Will crews ever find that missing plane, Malaysia Airlines Flight 370? It's been missing since March 8th, can you believe that? They are expected to start searching again today and one of vessels has just arrived in Australia.
PAUL: Plus a Marine lost at sea after bailing out of his aircraft. He's now believed to be the first U.S. casualty in the war against ISIS.
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PAUL: Mortgage rates dropped this past week. Here's your look.
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PAUL: It's 28 minutes past the hour right now. We're so grateful for your company. I'm Christi Paul.
BLACKWELL: I'm Victor Blackwell. Here are the five things you need to know for your NEW DAY.
PAUL: First of all, the first patient diagnosed with Ebola in the U.S. is getting worse it seems. Thomas Eric Duncan now in critical condition this morning at a Dallas hospital. Health officials say at least nine people who came into contact with him and were considered a higher risk of getting Ebola are not showing any symptoms thus far.
BLACKWELL: Number two, Ebola has been ruled out after more than 250 passengers were quarantined on a United Airlines flight happened yesterday in Newark, New Jersey. Officials say emergency responders took action after a man traveling from Liberia began vomiting on that plane.
Listen to what one passenger said about those really terrifying moments once the plane landed.
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RICHARD BURCHETT, SICK PASSENGER'S SEATMATE (via telephone): Once we landed on the airport, we were on the plane for about an hour and a half and eventually released after they had taken him off, but we entered the general population of the airport when we were released.
And now everyone is saying we were quarantined. It depends on your definition of quarantine. We were with the general population and using all the bathrooms. We weren't really separated. That's a concerning thing to me.
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BLACKWELL: A sick man and his daughter who was also on the plane were taken to the hospital for evaluation. Health officials say his symptoms are not related to the Ebola virus.
PAUL: Number three, pro-democracy protesters in Hong Kong staring down a Monday deadline to clear the streets. It seems, we're getting latest word from Hong Kong, that those demonstrators are withdrawing from outside the chief executive's office.
That's a key point of contention with authorities there, of course, with the protest group, occupy central with love and peace said that on a Twitter account. Apparently that group said the demonstrators are going to relocate to the main protest site there.
BLACKWELL: Number four, today crews are expected to start the next phase of their search for Malaysia Airlines Flight 370. The commercial flight went missing March 8th. It's been so long since that plane's been seen. The vessel called Go Phoenix will conduct sonar sweeps in the southern Indian Ocean. Now, two other vessels are due to join in soon. And officials says this search phase could take a year. And be sure to watch "Vanished: the Mystery of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370." It airs Tuesday at 9:00 Eastern.
PAUL: Number five, it's been three weeks now since University of Virginia student Hannah Graham disappeared. Now, we are hearing from her parents for the first time since the press conference the week after the 18-year old had vanished.
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SUE GRAHAM, HANNAH GRAHAM'S MOTHER: Please, please, please help end this nightmare for all of us. Please help us to bring Hannah home. Thank you.
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PAUL: Investigators believe this man Jesse Matthew was the last person with Hannah Graham. He's in custody in Virginia, charged with abduction with intent to defile.
BLACKWELL: U.S. Naval forces have confirmed the first U.S. military death in the war on ISIS. Corporal Jordan L. Spears of Memphis, Indiana died after bailing out of the aircraft when it appeared it might crash over the Persian Gulf. The Pentagon has not released the details of the mission the 21 years old, 21 years old, he was on and says the incident is under investigation. But here's what we know. On Wednesday the aircraft lost power after takeoff and dropped toward the water. Two crew members including Spears exited that aircraft. The pilots were eventually able to regain control and land safely. Now, the other crew member was rescued, but Spears was never found. And this weekend the government declared him dead. Let's talk about this. Retired Lieutenant Colonel Rick Francona is
the CNN military analyst. Lieutenant Colonel, good to have you with us this morning.
LET. COL. RICK FRANCONA (RET), CNN MILITARY ANALYST: Good morning.
BLACKWELL: So, the Pentagon has not classified Spears' death. Is that possibly because they don't want to release the details of the mission or have they honestly not determined what the classification will be?
FRANCONA: Well, I think they've honestly not determined it. They go through a whole process with this. But, you know, these kinds of accidents are not uncommon. You know, that's a pretty high-tech aircraft, it's relatively new in the inventory, and, you know, these things happen. When you're operating that many sorties (ph) in these extended environments, this is going to happen. Unfortunately we're going to see these kinds of deaths.
BLACKWELL: And you say that that we're going to see these kinds of deaths. What's the psychological impact that now there being the first U.S. military death related to the coalition effort against ISIS?
FRANCONA: You know, the military looks at this as, you know, one of these inevitable things. You plan for it, you plan to do your missions, you train, you do the best you can, you run through your emergency procedures, but unfortunately these things happen. And I think the military people take this - they know the mission must go on and it's just a fact of life in the military.
BLACKWELL: And how about for civilians?
FRANCONA: The civilian contractors and the civilians in the military there, I think, they've been --
BLACKWELL: My question is the psychological impact for civilians. Now that, you know, there was this overwhelming level of support for some type of strike against ISIS, airstrikes, but now that an American serviceman has been lost in this, does this change, you believe, the support for the mission?
FRANCONA: I don't think it will change it much, but it does underscore the fact that this is not free. There is a cost for this. There are young men and women in harm's way and they're going to suffer the consequences of that action and it's just -- I think people are now beginning to realize all of this is not sterile, it's not free. There will be a price to pay.
BLACKWELL: All right, I apologize for the interruption. I just want to make sure we got that clear. The spokesperson for the Navy, actually, it was Admiral John Kirby who told reporters that- let's read this clearly, that squadron and the ship were in the Gulf supporting the Central Command operation. Some of those operations including operations in Iraq and Syria at least tangentially, through at least some tangential way, a support to missions. Can you describe this search and rescue efforts once something like this happens? When someone is lost at sea?
FRANCONA: Well, this happened at sea and once - once this happens everything stops and everybody goes into a search and rescue mode. So, everything available would then be diverted to that. Of course, you have got other aircraft outside the area conducting their missions, but everything that's in the vicinity of this -- this thing just took off from the carrier, so they would be focused on that. And when they're conducting take-off and landing operations, they have helicopters standing by for just this eventuality.
BLACKWELL: All right, still waiting to get some more information about this, but the first casualty related to this coalition effort, U.S. casualty in the military. Corporal Jordan Spears. Colonel Rick Francona, thanks for joining us this morning.
FRANCONA: You're welcome.
BLACKWELL: All right, so after pleas to spare the life of British aid worker Alan Henning went unanswered by ISIS, the family of another hostage Peter Kassig released its own video asking its captors to show mercy and free him.
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PAULA KASSIG, MOTHER OF ISIS HOSTAGE: We implore those who are holding you to show mercy and use their power to let you go.
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BLACKWELL: The 26-year-old went missing -- actually went to the Middle East as a U.S. soldier, he returned as a medical worker feeling compelled to help victims of war.
PAUL: Well SARS, anthrax, Ebola, our next guest has faced all three. We're going to talk with former CDC response team member about coming face to face with the latest deadly epidemic and why later today he's heading back to Liberia.
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NANCY WRITEBOL, EBOLA SURVIVOR: They way that it's transmitted is through bodily fluids. And so, that's something that, you know, even in our own minds we have to remember, OK, this is not airborne, and I think that that will help people to not have as great a fear.
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PAUL: Fear she's talking about. I mean it's what's driving so much of our discussions, so much of our curiosity, isn't it, about the potentially deadly Ebola virus. And, that, of course, was Ebola survivor Nancy Writebol speaking this past week with CNN. She contracted Ebola while working as a missionary in Liberia.
But later today, our next guest is going to border plane and head back to that same West African nation where Ebola has now killed more than 2,000 people. Sean Kaufman is the president of the biosafety firm behavioral based improvement solutions, also was a member of the CDC's response team, I should say, for the anthrax attack, the SARS outbreak, and he was feeling very touched I think when you saw it, Nancy, because you treated her, you said.
SEAN KAUFMAN, PRES., BEHAVIORAL-BASED IMPROVEMENT SOLUTIONS: Absolutely. We were right there in the isolation unit. I was watching out for her, and got to know her two sons very well. And it was an honor and privilege to be there with her.
PAUL: Yeah. Obviously, it has a real connection with her as you watched her on the screen there. Let's talk about obviously we have some things in front of us for a reason. Let's talk about your trip back to Liberia. What's your mission going to be there?
KAUFMAN: I'm going to specifically be there to train doctors and nurses and to make sure that while they're working with patients that are sick with Ebola that they're doing the right thing at the right time protecting themselves, because typically doctors and nurses tend to focus so much on the patient and they really don't have someone focusing on them, and that's kind of my role, is just really watch them and make sure that when they're doing something, when they touch something, we're making sure that they decontaminating and making sure they're not taking the virus out of that area.
PAUL: Well, how is the medical response process different in Liberia than it is in the U.S.?
KAUFMAN: Oh, night and day.
PAUL: Yes.
KAUFMAN: I think the United States is a very well-resourced country. I mean in Liberia we're looking at issues with running water, electricity, temperature control. It's very hot. And so when you're adding and putting on a lot of personal protective equipment, it's very difficult for you do maintain body temperature and be comfortable while you're working with the patients.
PAUL: OK. So, let's talk about some of the equipment you have here. Because he was actually talking about how this is different now even here in the U.S. with Thomas Duncan who has kind of degraded back to critical condition. What does that say to you if you went from stable to critical?
KAUFMAN: Well, what it typically means is when someone, you know, when we say someone has Ebola, we have got to take a look at the stages of the disease. Early onset disease means that the patient is fairly stable. They may have a fever.
PAUL: OK.
KAUFMAN: And so there's different types of protection that we can use. Something that would protect our largest portal of entry, like our eyes, our nose, our mouth. In very basic aspects, it would be something that we would do. In this system is not something that's commonly used. It's what we used in - I'm going to use when we go out to Liberia this time.
PAUL: And this is not covered all the way around.
KAUFMAN: No, it's not.
PAUL: You can see here, this is an open mask.
KAUFMAN: And so, when the patient becomes like Duncan is -- and, again, my heart and prayers go out to him right now. But when he's in critical care, typically means that he is going to be a fluid producer, and what that means is that he could vomit, have diarrhea, or even bleeding out and that requires a little bit more protection for the medical staff.
PAUL: So they've moved from this with him?
KAUFMAN: Well, and I don't know what they are using, but I would hopefully suggest that they would be using something that offers their doctors and their nurses some protection.
PAUL: And we can see how this is fully --
KAUFMAN: Full, I mean, yeah, it is. It's fully encapsulated.
PAUL: Connected. Yeah.
KAUFMAN: -- which means that if something happens at an unpredictable amount of time or amount of fluid, the person is well protected.
PAUL: OK, where does the coke bottle come from?
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PAUL: I can't help but wonder about this. Can you?
KAUFMAN: Do you, believe it or not, after a long day of working with this and it is very never-racking, coke this home. It really is. It's like after a long day, it's what brings us home.
PAUL: So that's just - that's kind of your --
KAUFMAN: That's mine --
PAUL: That's your --
KAUFMAN: That's my --
PAUL: That - to me, my glass of wine is your coke, is that it?
KAUFMAN: Yes, that's correct. And so to remain vigilant in the field at all times, the coke takes us home.
PAUL: What do you expect when you get to Liberia this time around? KAUFMAN: I expect it to be very busy. I think we're going to be
training many doctors and nurses who are very scared. The workforce there is not only heroic, but they just need a lot of information on how to protect themselves. So, I think it's going to be very busy. It's going to be very fast paced and I think it's going to be very beneficial.
PAUL: Do you think that they should be some sort of restriction in air travel right now?
KAUFMAN: I hope not. West Africa is in dire need of resources, and if you start looking at restriction of travel, to be quite honest with you, I think you may start pulling resources away and if we let this thing spiral out of control -- that's why the folks from West Africa, from the military, the NGOs, CDC, these folks are heroes because if we can't stop it there it will spiral out of control and get worse in many other places around the world.
PAUL: Yeah. People had mentioned, you know, Guinea and Sierra Leone --
KAUFMAN: Absolutely.
PAUL: There needs to be some restrictions, but, of course, that hasn't happened yet, and it's good to hear that you think that it's necessary as well.
KAUFMAN: I hope not. I hope not.
PAUL: All right, well, thank you so much ..
KAUFMAN: Thank you.
PAUL: For being here. Thank you for all you're doing.
KAUFMAN: Thank you very-very much.
PAUL: We appreciate it.
It's a brave man here, a lot of people would say.
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PAUL: Sean Kaufman.
KAUFMAN: Thank you so much.
PAUL: Victor?
BLACKWELL: All right. Good to have him on the job. He's traveled all over the world, the next man you're going to hear from. But one place has been hard to gain access to until now.
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ANTHONY BOURDAIN, CNN HOST: Iran. Finally. I've been trying to get in this country five years now. It's been the big blank spot on my things to do list.
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BLACKWELL: Anthony Bourdain explains what he found shocking in Iran and why you'll find this episode to be a little confusing and shocking yourself.
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BLACKWELL: He may be the most envied guy on the planet traveling all of the world eating all these exotic food in all kinds of exotic places. Anthony Bourdain is now in his fourth season on CNN, and his next stop is the Bronx. Earlier he told me a bit about what he discovered there.
ANTHONY BOURDAIN, CNN HOST, "PARTS UNKNOWN": Well, it's big, it's filled with good stuff, it's incredibly diverse, and it's the whole world in one borough of New York City and to my shame and embarrassment it's a part of my own town and I know very little about. And I took a few small bites out of it for this episode and hope to take many more.
BLACKWELL: So let's talk about another place you're visiting that is timely as it relates to news. Iran. Was this your first visit to Iran?
BOURDAIN: First visit after many years of trying to film there. It's very difficult to get permissions. We had a deal with the sinister sounding ministry of guidance to get in, but once inside, the Iran we found, I think, is going to be a big -- very confusing and surprising to people who only know Iran from the newspapers and from television, from news reports, and from a geopolitical sense. Looking at inside on how ordinary people lead their lives and how they are to a foreigner, to an American, I think it will be very surprising.
BLACKWELL: I read that you met with the "Washington Post" reporter Jason Rezaian who's being held, and his wife as well on some unknown charges.
BOURDAIN: Yeah.
BLACKWELL: Why did you decide to meet with them and how did you decide if you want to get involved with the political situation in a city or country you visited?
BOURDAIN: Well, I think we were very careful to avoid that. We understood that it's a very tricky, very delicate situation there, that the people who are hosting us and looking after us and showing us around and introducing us to food and talking about their culture, we do not want to put them into a bad situation. Jason was someone -- and his wife Yeganeh, were both people who were very supportive of their country, very proud of their country. Jason is an Iranian- American, his wife full Iranian. They were very up on their country and, you know, talking about it as a place that should be better understood and hopefully better appreciated in the future. And I think when we were there, we felt and I think a lot of people
felt and hoped that things were opening up and that relations between our countries were perhaps normalizing a little. Now we see perhaps that that window -- that moment in time has ended.
BLACKWELL: Well, Anthony Bourdain, I have to say I don't spend every hour of my life in front of a television watching CNN, but your show I watch. It is beautifully shot. The cinematography is amazing. Congratulations on all the awards and we'll be watching season four. Thank you.
BOURDAIN: Thank you so much. It was fun.
BLACKWELL: And you can see the all new "Anthony Bourdain: Parts Unknown" tonight at 9 Eastern right here on CNN. Christi.
PAUL: Yeah, looking forward to that.
Already, Victor, you know, in St Louis, it was a requiem for a slain teen. Listen to it.
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PAUL: We'll tell you what this was all about, next.
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PAUL: As we edge for the 7:00 hour here, CNN's top ten heroes have been chosen.
BLACKWELL: Now it is your turn to pick the one most deserving of the title. CNN hero of the year. Anderson Cooper shows you how.
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ANDERSON COOPER, CNN ANCHOR: Now that we've announced the top ten CNN heroes of 2014, I want to show you how you can choose who should be CNN hero of the year and receive $100,000 for their cause. Take a look. This is the man page of CNN Heroes.com. Where you'll see all of the top ten, and you can learn more about each one of them. Here's how you can vote for your favorite. Once you've decided who inspires you the most, click down here on vote. And then a new page comes up. It chose you all the top ten heroes. Now, to choose the person to vote for, I'm going to randomly select, say, Ned Norton over here. Just as an example. His photo will show up down here under your selection. Then just enter your email address, type in the security code and click on the vote button right down there. It's even easier to vote on Facebook. Just make your selection and click over here. You can vote once a day every day from Sunday November 16 with your e- mail address and with Facebook. Just go to cnnheroes.com. Then rally your friends by sharing your choice on Facebook or on Twitter. We'll reveal your 2014 hero of the year during CNN heroes and all-star tribute. A CNN tradition that promises to inspire.
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PAUL: You can vote on the top ten heroes once a day every day as you heard there at cnnheroes.com.
BLACKWELL: All right, let's get some more top stories in for you now A complete loss, that's how investigators describe Friday's fire at a 9/11 Memorial facility about two miles from where United Airlines Flight 93 crashed in Shanksville, Pennsylvania. While among the destroyed artifacts was the flag that flew at the U.S. Capitol on the day of the attacks, the part service was able to save a photo archive and oral histories. The fire's cause is still under investigation.
PAUL: Do you realize today marks day 24 in the manhunt for Eric Frein? He's the survivalist accused of killing a Pennsylvania state trooper and wounding another. His 18-year-old sister Tiffanie told reporters she thinks the search for her brother in the Pennsylvania wilderness has failed. She believes he has left that area. Asked if she had a message for her brother, she said, quote, "Do us all a favor and turn yourself in."
And what a surprise interruption during last night's performance of the St. Louis Symphony Orchestra.
BLACKWELL: Yeah, protesters calling for justice for slain teen Michael Brown stood and then broke out into song.
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UNIDENTIFIED PEOPLE: Justice for Mike Brown, Justice for Mike Brown. Which side are you on?
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BLACKWELL: The demonstrators also unfurled three banners from the balcony related to the August shooting of Brown who was an African- American teenager by a white Ferguson police officer. The interruption was met with applause from some musicians and from the audience members as well. The protesters left voluntarily. Police said they received no complaints.
PAUL: Well, thank you so much for starting your morning with us.
BLACKWELL: The next hour of NEW DAY starts right now.
PAUL: Well, we are grateful to be the ones to wake you up on this Sunday morning. I'm Christi Paul.
