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Doctor Runs 22 Miles In Face Mask To Prove They Are Safe; Trump Planting Seeds Of Doubt Ahead Of The November Election; Canadian Ice Shelf Larger Than Manhattan Collapses Into The Sea; Trump Attempts To Bypass Congress On Economic Relief; Trump Plan Relies On States To Pay 25 Percent Of $400 Jobless Benefit; South Dakota Records 106 New Cases Saturday As Thousands Flock To Sturgis; More than 200 People Injured After Violent Protests In Beirut. Aired 6-7a ET

Aired August 09, 2020 - 06:00   ET




DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Therefore I'm taking executive action. I'm going to save American jobs and provide relief to the American workers.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The Democrats have already put out a statement slamming these executive actions.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They stretch the limits of the constitution far beyond what any other president has done.

RYAN YOUNG, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: When you get to Sturgis, South Dakota, one thing you'll notice right off the bat the traffic has swelled here. This city is full of people as thousands have descended on the city for the rally they said they wanted to be a part of.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It is called freedom. I spent a year in Vietnam to keep people free, and they didn't want to fight for their own freedom. I'm fighting for my freedom. I love to ride. Freedom is riding.


ANNOUNCER: This is NEW DAY weekend with Victor Blackwell and Christi Paul.

VICTOR BLACKWELL, CNN ANCHOR: You're either up really late or up early with us there in Los Angeles. Either way it is good to have you. Good morning.

The U.S. is about to cross this really important milestone. You have President Trump and Congress fighting over this much needed economic relief for millions of Americans but we're about to hit an important number.

CHRISTI PAUL, CNN ANCHOR: Yes. And it's not something that anybody is happy about. We're just shy of 5 million confirmed cases of coronavirus. And experts now saying with no national plan in place here they are warning again that the pandemic is likely to get much worse.

BLACKWELL: Yes. And in South Dakota has reported 100 new COVID-19 cases even as you have a quarter million bikers and supporters there in Sturgis for the motorcycle rally. No social distancing, no mask requirements. There are a lot of concerns that this could be one of those super spreader events.

PAUL: And this morning there are two police officers in Georgia on administrative leave after one of them shot at a car that was filled with children ages nine to 16. We'll have more on that coming up.

BLACKWELL: We're starting this morning with the president and his attempt to -- attempt I should say to side step Congress with his executive action on unemployment benefits, taxes and a lot more.

Let's go now to CNN White House Reporter, Sarah Westwood. Sarah, good morning to you. The measures, there will undoubtedly be some legal challenges.

SARAH WESTWOOD, CNN WHITE HOUSE REPORTER: Good morning, Victor and Christi.

And the president taking those executive actions yesterday to bypass Congress after those stimulus negotiations collapsed, but it was clear pretty quickly that there are some severe limitations to those executive orders because he doesn't necessarily have the authority to do all of the things that Congress might have done in a stimulus bill. And, of course, one that a lot of Americans were waiting to see what it would be like was the enhanced unemployment benefits that the president is trying to implement through executive action.

If everything went perfectly some Americans may get an extra $400 a week, that's less than what Democrats has wanted and less than what people were getting under the original program which was $600 a week. But there is a catch. States would have to put up a quarter of the money and they would have to agree to the federal government's terms if they want to access the other $300, the other three quarters of those funds. They would have to set up essentially entirely new programs to administer that money as well. So there could be some delays involved with this.

And yesterday speaking at his golf resort in Bedminster, the president acknowledged that some states just may not enter into the program and some people may not get their money. Take a listen.


TRUMP: Well if they don't, they don't. That's up to them. But if they don't, they don't. That's going to be their problem.

I don't think their people will be too happy. They have the money. So I don't think their people will be too happy. But if they don't, they don't. But, again, the states have the money. It's sitting there.

(END VIDEO CLIP) WESTWOOD: Now, Democrats quickly hit the president for these executive actions. I want to read you their statement. We're disappointed that instead of putting in the work to solve Americans problems, the president instead chose to stay on his luxury golf course to announce unworkable, weak and narrow policy announcements to slash unemployment benefits that millions desperately need and endanger seniors' Social Security and Medicare.

Now, of course, one of the other orders that the president signed had to do with payroll tax deferment. Companies would have to agree to that though. And keep in mind this is something that lawmakers in both parties did not want to have in the stimulus bill even though the president and the White House have pushed that in multiple rounds of stimulus talks, Victor and Christi.

BLACKWELL: Sarah Westwood for us there at the White House. Thank you, Sarah.

PAUL: Sarah, thanks.

We want to bring in CNN Presidential Historian, Tim Naftali and CNN Political Commentator, Errol Louis, also host of the "You Decide" podcast.


Gentlemen, good to see you this morning. Thank you.

Just to remind everybody, I want to replay a couple of things here from the president from yesterday. First of all, what the president said regarding this payroll tax holiday. Let's listen.


TRUMP: If I'm victorious on November 3rd I plan to forgive these taxes and make permanent cuts to the payroll tax. I'm going to make them all permanent.


PAUL: OK. A couple of things that stand out here. First of all, Congress would have to forgive those repayments. We need to point that out that is protocol, the president can't do that unilaterally as far as we know.

I looked up at the Social Security Web site because if I recalled it correctly as I was watching this it turns, and we can put it up here on the screen, that employers and employees each pay 6.2 percent of their wages. Essentially Social Security is financed through a dedicated payroll tax so, Errol, if payroll tax goes way what does that mean for Social Security?

ERROL LOUIS, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Well, it gives the Democrats a cudgel with which to hammer the president by saying truthfully in this case that they're trying to cut your Social Security benefits. They're trying to cut revenue into the Social Security trust fund and that in fact will be true.

The mystery here, Christi, is that the president is going so far out of his way, challenging the constitution, offering inadequate benefits for a plan that doesn't really go very far. The payroll tax is actually just not that much. It is not the kind of stimulus that families need certainly and it's not what the economy needs in order to recover.

So he's putting a pretty big bet on a pretty small number. And just as you suggest, it may not hold up, whether or not he wins re-election.

PAUL: But, Errol, just a little pushback on that in one aspect where does this money come from in the first place?

LOUIS: Yes. Right. The money comes from the businesses that have to collect it, but it comes from the operation of the businesses. And this is the whole sort of economic theory, the whole Keynesian (ph) fallacy that is running throughout so many of the refusals to extend the unemployment and to put in a robust stimulus package. To the extent that people are working, making money, getting a check that they can go out and spend, that is what is going to revive the economy.

And so we're going to continue this downward spiral as long as we sort of refuse to put money in the pockets of consumers and refuse to get it back into the hands of state and local governments so that they could spend on schools, first responders, local police and so forth.

PAUL: You're right. I mean, as soon as consumers get that money and start spending it again, that is when we'll see a more robust recovery.

Tim, one of the other things in the sound bite from the president is when he said, "If I'm victorious on November 3rd." I feel like there was -- I heard a lot of people talking about this blatant verbiage that he was using that seemed to be a political strategy on his part at that point. He's basically saying if you want these cuts to be permanent, you need to vote for me.

Talk to us about whether this type of promise and verbiage is effective in an election year.

TIM NAFTALI, CNN PRESIDENTIAL HISTORIAN: Well, the president is behind and he knows he is behind and so he is pulling out all of the stops to try to create a sense of action.

You can see the president trying to set up the kind of rhetoric that Harry Truman used in 1948 and has come behind victory which is that I am up against the do nothing Congress, I believe in the American people, I will use every form of power that I have to deliver the goods to you. And you get the sense from the president, with these four executive orders, that he's trying to set up that rhetoric. But that doesn't mean he's setting up that reality.

He has created an unfunded mandate for the states. He is telling the states that they're going to have to provide 25 percent of this unemployment benefit. Well, you can say that the states have the money but that doesn't mean they actually have the money.

As Errol mentioned, he is setting up a house of cards here. Making promises that he can't deliver on and the promises themselves are not that widespread. So, the rhetoric is of action but not the reality.

PAUL: So I want to touch on that, Errol, about the $400 and the fact that states are now required to pay $100 of that to each person who is claiming unemployment.

Just a couple of months ago we were listening to Bill de Blasio. We were hearing other leaders talk about how they may have to file bankruptcy for their state and that that was unprecedented. Where are states going to come up with this money?

LOUIS: They are not going to come up with that. And, by the way, states cannot declare bankruptcy the way cities can --


PAUL: Right.

LOUIS: -- is going to really make this -- make this really critical. The estimated deficit in New York, for example, since you mentioned it is something like $15 billion. It can't come from nowhere and it will be criminally irresponsible. And just as a practical matter they're simply not going to come up with billions of dollars.

They're not going to take it out of their National Guard payments. They're not going to take it out of their Homeland Security money. They're not going to take it out of their state police budgets and so forth.

Those budgets are already stretched to the breaking point. And so this is not going to find, even with Republican governors, I'm pretty sure, you're not going to find a lot of states saying, hey, great, thanks, Mr. President Trump, you know, we're going to pick up one third of this benefit. At best -- at best people might get a $300 supplemental unemployment payment instead of the $400 that is being announced and instead of the $600 that they were getting.

PAUL: So, Tim, are we seeing a president who needs to be assertive to assert some sort of authority as we're now 85 days before the election and what happens if in that amount of time we don't see anything come to fruition that he's promising right now?

NAFTALI: Well, I think the president and his advisers have concluded that his reaction to the coronavirus crisis which largely was to duck it, to pretend it didn't exist and then to throw responsibilities on the state has hurt him political.

The four executive orders of yesterday are an attempt to reassert presidential authority in a crisis. So that is the -- again, it is the creation of a television script to try to make the president seem at the center of it all.

What is going to matter is what the economy does and how Americans feel and whether Americans if we see more people going bankrupt, if we see more companies falling apart, if we see the unemployment rate not improving dramatically. We're still at 10 percent. It has improved but it is still at 10 percent which is high. If we don't see major changes in those numbers he's still in trouble come November.

PAUL: OK. Tim Naftali, Errol Louis, so grateful for both of you this morning. Thank you, gentlemen.

LOUIS: Thank you.

NAFTALI: Thank you.

BLACKWELL: Four offers involved in shootings in under 24 hours in the state of Georgia. We have got the latest incident resulted in two police officers being put on administrative leave. They fired shots at a car with children inside. A live report coming up.

PAUL: Also, they're ready to ride. Masks aren't required. We are there as thousands of bikers cruise into South Dakota for a weekend rally in the middle of a pandemic. It is like something that they have never seen before. Why people we spoke with say it is worth the risk.



BLACKWELL: The U.S. is on the verge of surpassing 5 million confirmed coronavirus cases. That would be an increase of 1 million cases in a little more than two weeks. Now, the CDC says the true case count is likely 10 times that of the figures that we're seeing now.


BLACKWELL (voice-over): If doctors and health care experts are correct, the wave of COVID-19 infections is not even close to over.

DR. JAMES PHILLIPS, PHYSICIAN AND ASSISTANT PROFESSOR, GEORGE WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY HOSPITAL: We failed early on to adopt the testing that was necessary and even more so we failed to ramp that up to a degree that we're going to need in the coming season.

BLACKWELL: One important university model predicts that the number of Americans who will have died from COVID could reach 300,000 by December first. Public health professionals are pleading with people to wear a face covering in public but many are refusing.

DR. MEGAN RANNEY, EMERGENCY PHYSICIAN, BROWN UNIVERSITY: There should be a federal mask mandate. We know from studies across the country that when there is a mask mandate in place the number of infections drops dramatically. There have been studies suggesting that mask mandates are actually more effective than lockdowns.

BLACKWELL: On Saturday the California Department of Health reported 7,371 new cases. The Florida Department of Health reported more than 8,500 cases. Health officials in Texas said the state's seven-day COVID-19 positivity rate had risen to more than 19 percent. The highest seven day average since the pandemic began.

Doctors say one important factor to reopening the U.S. while maintaining safety is rethinking the national strategy on testing for the virus.

DR. SEEMA YASMIN, CNN MEDICAL ANALYST: Testing is so important because it helps you distinguish who is a case from who is not, who needs contact tracing. Right now we're only doing about 800,000 tests a day which is so far below the minimum daily target of at least 2 million tests a day if not 4 million tests every day. That is what we need to do to get a handle on this.

BLACKWELL New York's governor is allowing schools to reopen this fall with a reduced number of students in each classroom and with the help of parents.

RICHARD CARRANZA, CHANCELLOR, NEW YORK CITY DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION: If your child is sick or is exhibiting any symptoms, do not send them to school. If you're feeling sick, stay home. We're going to have temperature checks. We're going to have randomized temperature checks. Everyone would be wearing personal protection equipment. Face masks will be required. We're going to have 24/7 people walking disinfecting door knobs and handrails.

BLACKWELL: A new report from the CDC supports the earlier belief that most coronavirus cases in children appear to be either asymptomatic or mild. But the report said that when children are hospitalized they need intensive care as often as adults do.


PAUL: Nineteen minutes past the hour right now. And yesterday the South Dakota Department of Health reported 106 new COVID-19 cases and they did so as tens of thousands of people went to Sturgis this weekend. There are some of the pictures showing it. This was for the annual motorcycle rally.

BLACKWELL: You don't see a lot of social distancing, a lot of masks, really you don't see many helmets either. CNN's Ryan Young is there in South Dakota.



YOUNG: When you get to Sturgis, South Dakota, one thing you'll notice right off the bat the traffic has swelled here. This is the town of 7,000 normally but right now this city is full of people.

Look all the way down the road here and I can tell you this multiplies itself mile by mile. It takes a half hour to go a mile here as thousands have descended on the city for the rally they said they wanted to be a part of. What one of the things that stands out here is a lot of people are choosing not to wear masks. They believe that is their right and you do see some people wearing masks but they understand those are the decision they have to make before arriving here.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We are trying to kind of social distance. When we went to the bar, just drink here or there and then leave. It is too crowded we really stepped out. So trying to practice social distancing while we're doing the event.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: One thing I know is I know how the people act. Look at everybody out here. They're ready to ride. Everybody is cooped up from the coronavirus. Everybody is ready to have fun and, hell, so am I.

YOUNG: And there is an economic piece to all this as well. When you have so many people flooding into a city businesses are counting on this weekend to make it. It has been a tough few months with the coronavirus.

There are people who travel thousands of miles to be here. They wanted to see if they could make their year in this one weekend and that is why they say it was all worth the risk.

Ryan Young, CNN, South Dakota.


PAUL: And thanks to Ryan there.

Up next, two police officers in Georgia are on administrative leave this morning after shots were fired at a car caring teenagers. That is incident is just one of four officer-involved shootings in less than 24 hours in Georgia. We have the latest on the investigation in just moments. Stay close.



BLACKWELL: Let's talk about the FBI and their involvement in the investigation into Breonna Taylor's death. They're testing ballistic evidence from her apartment to reconstruct the shooting. She was 26 years old, an EMT. She was shot eight times when narcotics officers kind of smashed their way into her apartment. They were executing a no-knock warrant. This was March 13th.

PAUL: Now, the Kentucky attorney general said on Friday that he was committed to an independent and thorough investigation into the circumstances of her death and the conduct of the officers involved as well.

Meanwhile two Waycross, Georgia, police officers are on administrative leave this morning after a family says they shot at a car that was carrying several kids including one as young as 9 years old during an attempted traffic stop. This happened yesterday morning allegedly.

BLACKWELL: None of the children was injured by the gunfire according to the Georgia Bureau of Investigation. GBI says the officer shot when the vehicle started moving towards them. Two teenagers were taken into custody.

PAUL: We want to go to CNN National Correspondent, Natasha Chen right now. So, Natasha, I know you're following this. What does the family said about what they say happened?

NATASHA CHEN, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, Christi, the family has talked to our affiliate WJXT and you can imagine they're upset that police officers fired at a car with children in it. What the GBI says happened is that yesterday around 8:00 a Waycross police officer observed a traffic violation, tried to get license plate information, and at one point the three younger children in that car ages nine, 12 and 14 exited the vehicle.

Now, the family tells our affiliate that the older teens were scared and told the younger kids to run and get help. The family says they were all just coming back from Walmart to pick up their dad to go to a football tournament.

Well, when the younger kids ran out of the car, a second police officer, according to the GBI, arrived approaching the vehicle from the front and the GBI says that the vehicle continued toward the officer and that is when GBI says the second officer fired multiple shot and the two teens left in the car, 15 and 16-year-olds ran and exited the car. At that point leaving the car in drive, that car eventually came to a stop. The 15-year-old got into a struggle with that second police officer and was eventually handcuffed.

I'm going to read a couple of the charges of those teens. The 16-year- old was charged with possession of a handgun by someone under 18 which the family says is a gun owned by the parents in the glove box. Assaulting a police officer, the 15-year-old with removal or attempt to remove a firearm from an officer but that 15-year-old also tells our affiliate that he never tried to touch the police officer's gun, that it was pointed at him and his mother the whole time. Here is cell phone video taken by the family and also some of what the children's father told our affiliate.


AMARI GOODMAN, FAMILY MEMBER: We got out and we started running toward the house and they just started shooting.

DOMINIQUE GOODMAN SR., FATHER: We go on the back, we open the door, we see my 9-year-old, my 12-year-old, my 14-year-old running from the police behind them with gunshots coming behind them. We go down the street and we see our 15-year-old and our 16-year-old on the ground.


CHEN: And the community had a meeting about this yesterday, according to the affiliate, and will meet again on Tuesday. Understandably they are upset about these children in the line of fire potentially, luckily they were not seriously injured at all. Christ and Victor, back to you.

BLACKWELL: Natasha Chen for us. Natasha, thanks so much. PAUL: Listen, the rage is evident in Beirut. More than 200 people have been injured after violent protests yesterday. Police fired tear gas and rubber bullets at these anti-government protestors who were demonstrating and they in turn threw rocks and fireworks at security forces. Now, at one point they did take over several ministry buildings.


BLACKWELL: A lot of those who were demonstrating there believe that corruption and negligence from the government are at the heart of what led to that explosion this week.


ORNELLA NAJAM, LEBANESE LEGAL CONSULTANT AND PROFESSOR: Because if they had a bit dignity, a bit of trust and honesty, Beirut wouldn't be destroyed right now.

We're here to just show the international community what we are going through. We are facing the worst days of our lives with a government that doesn't give one minute (ph). They don't care about us.


BLACKWELL: Well, the Lebanese prime minister is calling for an early parliament election. He says that he will present a plan tomorrow.

PAUL: Still ahead, an ICU doctor ran more than 20 miles just to prove a point to people who assert that masks cut off your oxygen.



BLACKWELL: Well, doctors and scientists have spent months emphasizing the importance of wearing a mask as an effective tool to help fight the spread of the coronavirus. A lot of states have now introduced a mask requirement but a lot still believe that somehow a mask cuts back on a wearer's oxygen level.

PAUL: Yes. Well, our next guest decided to prove it's possible to do most activities while you wear a mask and that it doesn't affect how much oxygen you actually get. Dr. Tom Lawton is who we're talking to. He's an ICU doctor, also a consultant for critical care and anesthesia at Bradford Institute for Health. Doctor, thank you so much for being with us, we appreciate it.

So, you ran almost, what, over 21 miles, as I understand it, wearing a mask. I have been an runner in my life. I know part of running well is learning how to breathe. Well, while you are running, there is kind of a science to it. Honestly, how did it work for you? Was there ever a point in this race or this run where you said this is a little difficult?

DR. TOM LAWTON, CONSULTANT CRITICAL CARE AND ANESTHESIA, BRADFORD INSTITUTE FOR HEALTH RESEARCH: It was two runs actually. I was raising money for charity and I said ran to work and back and then someone challenged me if I raised more than 500 pounds, I would have to do a marathon on the way home.

And the run on the way there was -- it was quite warm and humid and a combination of sort of sweat and humidity getting into the mask did make it quite uncomfortable. The mask is sort of slapping over your face every time you try and take a deep breath in. And, ironically, because I was so confident in the physiology of the situation, I haven't actually tried running in a mask before I did it for real.

And I was a bit worried. I was thinking this is really unpleasant and I have a lot of sympathy for people who don't like to wearing masks. But, again, I was checking my oxygen levels and they didn't drop at any point. There are plenty of oxygen, no issues. It's just a bit unpleasant.

BLACKWELL: So you used an oximeter, right? So it's not just, hey, look at me, I can breathe while I run. You actually were measuring as you're running to make sure that your oxygen levels indeed did not drop?

LAWTON: Yes. I was frustrated because I have seen some of these videos going out where people have -- photos mostly, where people have sat at a desk and wearing a mask and claimed that the oxygen levels drop just simple wearing a mask sat at their desk. So I thought, well, I've got access to a pulse oximeter, I cannot just sit at a desk but actually go out and use ten people's worth of oxygen running in one and demonstrate that it doesn't change at all.

PAUL: So I want to get your reaction to a group of researchers at Duke University who discovered that some masks, they say, literally, they say, are useless, particularly if you're wearing bandanas, for instance, that they were least effective. What do you find in that regard? Help us understand the effectiveness of the masks.

LAWTON: I'm not an expert on this subject. I would warn you. But I have read that study and I think it is a nicely designed study and shows what we've been told, that there is a limit. I see people sort of getting into the mask business, advertising these masks that are so thin you can drink through them and it raises concerns that if it is thin just for the drink to come through, surely it is then enough for fairly decent particles with virus then to get back out.

And the recommendation here in the U.K. is that we wear at least a two-layer cloth mask, which, on that study, seemed to perform reasonably well. And the one I ran in was a three layer mask, obviously surgical masks and potential even the N95, B2 or 3 masks are better. But we've got to be careful. We might (INAUDIBLE) the study with once wit vowels (ph) that potentially just let the air come out unfiltered.

BLACKWELL: And, Dr. Lawton, the narrative is that Americans -- it is a uniquely American problem or issue with the mask, that we're seeing the highest rate of cases, the highest number of deaths in the world, or number of cases and deaths in the world because Americans uniquely do not want to wear the mask. Is that true? What is the degree of opposition to masks where you are?

LAWTON: I said don't think there is any single magic bullet. I don't think that masks are going to solve this on their own. And we need to keep distance, comply with test, trace, isolation, wash hands and wear a mask.


And it's been quite interesting having done this run that, as different news agencies around the world have picked up the story that I've been getting abuse from different countries. So I can tell you that it is not just an American phenomenon. There are people who are anti-mask in every country that the story has been published in.

I feel very sorry for the way things have gone in the U.S. but I think complying with all of those different steps can really help fight this virus. It is not too late.

BLACKWELL: Well, Dr. Lawton, thank you so much for your contribution to truth and to science and telling us and showing people that you can indeed breathe while wearing a mask. Dr. Tom Lawton there from the U.K., thanks so much.

PAUL: Thank you, Doctor

BLACKWELL: So, so many months now into the coronavirus pandemic and Hollywood is understandably anxious to get back to work with some T.V. and movie shoots already happening. But there are still a lot of questions about how safely people can get back to work and avoid a spread on sets known for having large crews and blockbuster productions. The NBA, we know that they are in a bubble, so some producers are trying to create a bubble.

With us now, CNN Senior Entertainment Reporter Lisa France. Lisa, good morning to you.


BLACKWELL: So let me put this up. I was just doing a little reading around this morning ahead of our conversation. It is full screen too, guys. The top five movies in America last week were The Rental, The Goonies, Jurassic Park, Back to the Future and Grease. Combined, they brought in less than a million dollars over the weekend. So, clearly, we need some more content. How is Hollywood now working to try to get more content to us?

FRANCE: Well, Hollywood is trying to figure out a way to safely bring people back. You have like you mentioned huge cast and crews, so that is a lot of people in one location. So they're trying to figure out do we test more frequently. Some T.V. shows, like soap operas, have been gotten creative and reportedly using things like people's own romantic partners doubles.

But right now, it seems like the consensus is they need to, like the NBA, have a quarantine bubble, in which people are restricted to being on set, you keep as few people as possible, people socially distanced when they are not filming you're required to wear a mask and they're going to have to test often. But this also costs money.

So they're trying to balance that fiscally because, of course, movies and T.V., this whole industry is about making money. So if it's going to cost you a whole lot of money to make sure people are safe, you actually have to figure out a way you could then boost the money that the movie will bring in and you can't do that when theaters aren't open.

BLACKWELL: Yes. And as much time as we're spending at home, we need more content. And one studio that is doing this, Tyler Perry Studios in Georgia, you toured before the pandemic. Tell us how they are doing it and it comes, as you said, at an extensive cost.

FRANCE: Well, I talked to one of the stars of The Tyler Perry Show, K.J. Smith, and she said Mr. Perry has been extremely proactive and everybody was quarantined for two weeks. They're calling it camp quarantine. She said it's almost like an adult summer camp. They are responsible for making sure they wear masks when they're not filming, to make sure they're socially distant, to also make sure to keep each other accountable. He is having people being tested frequently and it seems to be working so far.

So people like The Rock are taking a page out of Tyler Perry's book and he's planning on returning to filming his films, a Netflix film, doing something very similar, keeping, as I said, that quarantine bubble where you have as few people as needed for the production and you make sure that people adhere to very, very strict guidelines.

Tyler Perry is feeding people, they're doing yoga, virtually, they're having virtual church. So he's really trying to replicate the things that people on the outside world have been told that we must do to keep safe while they're working.

BLACKWELL: You mentioned Netflix, one streaming service. Let me mention another one, Disney Plus, and the decision of instead of sending the live action Mulan to theaters, where, as I said, the top five movies over the weekend made less than a million dollars because of theater closures, they're going to send it to Disney Plus. Controversial decision, you understand why they make it, though?

FRANCE: Of course, they have to. The thing is they've been pushing it down the road and pushing it down the road. When Mulan was supposed to premiere back in March, the sense was, well, we'll be able to get on top of this and we'll get this in theaters shortly. Keep in mind, this was supposed to be one of the biggest movies of the year.

But as time went on and we kept seeing surges, they realized that they were going to have pivot and create almost like a video on demand within Disney Plus, whereas people would have access to highly expected movie, was really sought after film that folks were so excited about.


But analysts are saying they don't think that it's going to be able to make nearly as much money. They were predicting that Mulan may have made as much as $750 million at the box office. You're not going to bring that same amount of money in streaming when you're streaming it on demand.

BLACKWELL: Yes. It's an additional $29.99, I believe, on top of the monthly subscription for Disney Plus. We'll see how many families put up $30 to watch this movie.

Lisa Respers France, good to see you.

FRANCE: Good to see you. Thank you.

BLACKWELL: All right.

So he went from wanting to delay the election potentially to demanding that a winner gets declares on election night. How President Trump may be planting seeds of doubt and discord ahead of the November elections. And why we may not have a clear winner until days or even weeks after the polls close.



BLACKWELL: We are now fewer than 90 days from the November 3rd election. But it is possible we may not know the winner that night.

PAUL: Yes. This is a scenario that President Trump has talked about repeatedly, attacking, that he's questioning the legitimacy of mail-in voting, as we've had that discussions many times before.

CNN Chief Media Correspondent and Host of "RELIABLE SOURCES," Brian Stelter, you're going to see him a little bit later, we get to see him now. Good morning to you, Brian.

So the president, we know is --


PAUL: Good morning. He seems to be trying to maybe have people already question the results of this election. Is there any indication that what he's saying is working?

STELTER: I think there are indications that it is working among his base audience. And it actually may cause some Republican voters to be weary of mail-in voting and, thus, not vote in the election. It could actually backfire on the president.

But this rhetoric -- Chris and Victor, this rhetoric is like a storm on the beach. Think about what happens to a beach during a middle of a hurricane. The sand gets eroded one wave after another, inch by inch, the sand gets eroded. That's what Trump is doing to people's trust and confidence in the voting system. He is eroding confidence inch by inch, day by day, every day, up until Election Day.

For example, yesterday, when he was at Bedminster speaking at his club, he said, the Democrats are trying to steal the election. That's extreme rhetoric. That's the kind of stuff we hear in third world countries but he's saying it every day.

Now, he was claiming that the Democrats are trying to steal the election by inserting provisions into a bill that would encourage and make it easier to vote by mail and vote in these ways due to the pandemic. So that is his claim about stealing the election.

I think this rhetoric, because it's happening every day, it is like this slow motion erosion of people's confidence in the process. And I think what we have to do in the press is keep explaining the reality about vote by mail is happening, why absentee balloting is on the rise.

And we also -- I think, it's going to be incumbent on local and state officials, the people who actually run elections, to make sure people know why it really works and why this actually is a -- not just a legal process but an effective process.

I think the last thought on this is that the media has an educational job to do because we already -- news outlets are preparing for election night knowing it's going to be more like election week because it will take longer to count absentee and mailed-in ballots.

So, already, for example, networks like CNN are thinking about, okay, instead of having a big election night broadcast, what do we do the next day and the next day and the next day and in preparation of this taking longer this year.

BLACKWELL: Yes. So we've got some of these big states that will get so many mail-in votes. That's going to take some time to count and to get in.

Brian Stelter, thank you so much.

STELTER: Thanks.

PAUL: Thank you.

BLACKWELL: All right. And be sure to watch Stelter on Reliable Sources at 11:00 Eastern right here on CNN.

PAUL: So there is an ice shelf bigger than Manhattan that collapsed suddenly in Canada. Meteorologist Allison Chinchar has a warning about what this means.

BLACKWELL: Also, be sure to watch State of the Union later this morning. Jake Tapper is joined by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Larry Kudlow, Director of the United States National Economic Council, and Ohio Governor Mike DeWine. State of the Union airs at 9:00 Eastern.



PAUL: So, the Canadian Arctic is really feeling the summer heat, it seems. There has been a big impact, in fact. BLACKWELL: Yes. Take a look at these satellite pictures. It shows a chunk of Canada's last fully intact ice shelf, this thing was about the size of Manhattan, even larger than, and it collapsed into the ocean.

Let's go now to CNN's Allison Chinchar.

Allison, a huge area. Did scientists know that this was going to happen? Did they see it coming?

ALLISON CHINCHAR, CNN METEOROLOGIST: Right. So I think they knew that at some point it would break off. They just didn't anticipate it would do it this soon or nor did they anticipate it would be this large of an area. So I think it is the combination of both that has really taken people by surprise.

So let's break it down for you. Let's show you where, in question, this is, because I think people don't really know where the Milne Ice Shelf is or even where Ellesmere Island is.

So here is the U.S. And here is some perspective. This is the very northern portion of Canada. Again, part of Ellesmere Island but this specifically is the Milne Ice Shelf. This is the area that broke off. So here are those satellite images. This is showing you July 30th, okay, before it broke off, and then, literally, just two days later, you can see the entire chunk has capped, that is what the official term is called, as it breaks off here.

And then by August 3rd, even that portion that broke off then broke into several other pieces as well. Again, all due to the warming there that they've had. And they've had an incredibly warm summer up there.

To show you the size, because it is hard to tell from satellite imagery, it is about 30 square miles. Keep in mind that Manhattan is 23 square miles. So you're talking a piece larger that was larger than Manhattan. And, overall, it means that it was about 40 percent -- 43 percent, to be exact, of its total area.

The other certain is the last known epishelf Lake in the northern hemisphere may also be gone. And epishelf lake is basically a body of freshwater that's trapped essentially by the ice shelf that's floating on top of the ocean water.

And, Victor and Christi, the concern here is there are organisms, living things that live in that epishelf lake that once then flows back out into saltwater, it can no longer survive.