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Biden To Name Coronavirus Task Force; Kushner Approaches Trump About Conceding; Kamala Harris Is First Black-South Asian Woman Elected U.S. Vice President; Celebrations Erupt Across The U.S. After Biden Clinches Race; President-Elect Joe Biden Pledges To Unify Nation, Trump Not Conceding; International Newspapers Weigh In On U.S. Election; Dave Chappelle Returns As Post-Election "SNL" Host. Aired 5- 6a ET

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KAMALA HARRIS (D), VICE-PRESIDENT-ELECT OF THE UNITED STATES: It is now my great honor to introduce the President-Elect of the United States of America, Joe Biden.

JOE BIDEN (D), PRESIDENT-ELECT OF THE UNITED STATES: I pledge to be a president, who seeks not to divide but unify.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I know this is a painful moment for many, who wished for a different outcome. But at this moment, I believe that we have an extraordinary opportunity to move this country forward.

HARRIS: We, the people, have the power to build a better future.

REP. JAMES CLYBURN (D-SC), HOUSE MAJORITY WHIP: The Biden-Harris ticket, they say so much about what this country is all about.

BIDEN: We will lead, not only by the example of our power but by the power of our example.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We've got our half-Indian girls here. They are too young to vote but they can be part of the process and they can see that a woman can make it to the White House.

HARRIS: America is ready and so are Joe and i.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: UNIDENTIFIED MALE (voice-over): This is "NEW DAY" weekend with Victor Blackwell and Christi Paul.

VICTOR BLACKWELL, CNN ANCHOR: Live at the Capitol building, at the top of the hour. Good morning to you. President-Elect Joe Biden says now is the time to heal and to end what he called a grim era of demonization in the U.S.

CHRISTI PAUL, CNN ANCHOR: Last night, he said he plans to name his Coronavirus Task Force tomorrow in order to deal with what he calls the greatest threat facing the nation.

BLACKWELL: Outgoing president Donald Trump is pushing forward with his legal fight. This morning, we learned one of his closest advisers has approached him about conceding.

PAUL: Want to take a moment and listen to what President-Elect Joe Biden said last night.


BIDEN: The people of this nation have spoken. They've delivered us a clear victory, a convincing victory, a victory for we, the people. We've won with the most votes ever cast for a presidential ticket in the history of the nation, 74 million.

I'm proud of the campaign we built and ran. I'm proud of the coalition we put together, the broadest and most diverse coalition in history: Democrats, Republicans, independents; progressives, moderates, conservatives; young, old; urban, suburban, rural; gay, straight, transgender; white, Latino, Asian, Native American.

I mean it, especially in those moments and especially for those moments when this campaign was at its lowest ebb, the African American community stood up again for me. You've always had my back, and I'll have yours.

For all those of you who voted for President Trump, I understand the disappointment tonight. I've lost a couple of times myself. But now let's give each other a chance. It's time to put away the harsh rhetoric, lower the temperature, see each other again, listen to each other again. To make progress, we have to stop treating our opponents as our enemies. They are not our enemies. They're Americans. They're Americans.

The Bible tells us, "To everything, there is a season; a time to build, a time to reap and a time to sow and a time to heal."

This is the time to heal in America. I'm a proud Democrat. But I will govern as an American president. I'll work as hard for those who didn't vote for me, as those who did. Let this grim era of demonization in America begin to end here and now.


PAUL: Joe Biden there, our president-elect, in Wilmington, Delaware, last night. And that's where we find CNN's own Jason Carroll.

The former vice president, we should say now, says that he is going to get to work immediately. We understand that executive orders are in his future, as of January 20th.

What are you hearing about his plans? JASON CARROLL, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Yes. You're going to have to get used to saying President-Elect Biden, just like the rest of us.


CARROLL: But President-Elect Biden and his team have really, already, been at work trying to get this pandemic under control. In fact, just last week, Biden and Kamala Harris met with health advisers. They also met with economic advisers about this pandemic.

And during his speech last night, he said, look. He made it very clear that he's going to spare no expense in terms of trying to turn around this pandemic. He also said that, on Monday, tomorrow, he's going to be announcing more details about this 12-person task force, with the express goal of turning around this pandemic.


BIDEN: On Monday, I will name a group of leading scientists and experts as transition advisers to help take the Biden-Harris COVID plan and convert it into an action blueprint that will start on January the 20th, 2021.


CARROLL: And so, looking ahead, there have been a lot of questions about the transition.

Will the Trump administration cooperate with the -- a peaceful transition of power?

The Biden transition team has been basically working behind the scenes since Labor Day on this specific issue and on other issues as well. And basically, Biden's deputy campaign manager says, look. Whether or not the Trump administration cooperates, that's immaterial to them. They're prepared, either way.


KATE BEDINGFIELD, BIDEN CAMPAIGN DEPUTY MANAGER: Obviously, the peaceful transition of power is a core, bedrock principle that our democracy is founded on. And of course we hope and I think that it would be good thing for the American people to hear from President Trump. But that's his decision.


CARROLL: So looking ahead, there are a number of goals and challenges facing this administration. You heard now President-Elect Biden talking about the need to unify the country. This is a message we have heard ever since the beginning of this campaign, a key message of his campaign.

He talked about not red states or blue states but the United States. And one of his express goals is to try to bring this country together. Again, it's a tall order in a divided country. It's just another one of the challenges a Biden administration will be facing -- Christi, Victor.

BLACKWELL: Jason Carroll for us. Thank you, Jason.

So we've learned Jared Kushner, president's son-in-law, senior adviser, has approached the president about conceding the election.

PAUL: CNN's Ryan Nobles is following the latest.

We know that the president's pushing forward with a legal fight as well.

What are you hearing this morning, Ryan?

Good morning to you.

RYAN NOBLES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Victor and Christi. At this point, it doesn't appear that President Trump is anywhere even in the ballpark of conceding this election to Joe Biden. Of course, concession is not necessary for the peaceful transition of power. But it would make the process a lot easier.

In fact, we haven't heard all that much from President Trump or his campaign since the race was called for now President-Elect Joe Biden. The president saying he believed the race was far from over and that they were going to push forward with their legal challenges and efforts to explore recounts in the states where that will be an option.

Meanwhile, Republicans up here in Washington seem to be backing the president. There have been a few Republicans who have reached out and offered congratulations to the president-elect and the vice president- elect.

But those who have been the biggest supporters of President Trump seem to be allowing him the space to continue on with these legal challenges, however fruitless they may be. Listen to what House minority whip Steve Scalise had to say yesterday on FOX.


REP. STEVE SCALISE (R-LA), HOUSE MAJORITY WHIP: Look. There's a lot of game left to be played here. You look at Al Gore and George Bush. That wasn't decided until the second week of December. And here we are in early -- in early November.


NOBLES: I mean, it goes without saying that the race in 2000 is so much different than the dynamics of the race in 2020. That was only one state. It was a razor-thin margin. We're talking about four states where Joe Biden has a lead that might be considered to be close but is convincing enough to get him over that 270 electoral vote threshold.

The one thing that we will say about the White House posture, the Trump campaign posture and the president himself is they have gotten very quiet after the initial flurry of tweets around the time the race was called.

There's been nothing from his Twitter feed. His campaign has not put out statements. Even his children, those who have been the most vocal encouraging to the president to dig in his heels, could that be a sign that things are starting to thaw?

When you add that Jared Kushner is at least trying to talk to the president about concession, perhaps their posture will change. Right now, though, Victor and Christi, no one expects that to come anytime soon.


NOBLES: And of course there are 75 days before Joe Biden is inaugurated as the next President of the United States -- Victor and Christi.

BLACKWELL: Ryan Nobles, thank you.

PAUL: Later this morning, be sure to watch "STATE OF THE UNION." Jake Tapper will have Symone Sanders, Congressman James Clyburn, Senator Mitt Romney, Stacey Abrams, among others. That's "STATE OF THE UNION" at 9:00 Eastern.

BLACKWELL: America's first woman as vice president. She spoke last night, Kamala Harris. We're going to hear her message to future generations and a look at the challenges ahead for the incoming Biden- Harris administration.






HARRIS: While I may be the first woman in this office, I will not be the last.


BLACKWELL: That's Vice President-Elect Kamala Harris there talking about vice president -- correction -- President-Elect Joe Biden's audacity to break barriers and select a woman as his vice president.

We've got to get used to that, now.

Her speech and election making history in more than just one way. She is America's first Black vice president-elect, first born to Indian and Jamaican parents, first to graduate from an historically Black university, Howard University, in Washington.

Let's talk to CNN political analyst Margaret Talev, politics and White House editor for Axios.

Margaret, good morning to you.


BLACKWELL: So your piece, the latest one for Axios, highlights both the winners and the win. Let's start with the win.

CNN has not called -- has not called Arizona, has not called Georgia. But he leads there, too. Biden has won Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin; a member of the New Georgia Project -- and this is in Axios.

"There is a belief among Democratic Party that holding the center is important and the idea of this mystical unicorn of a white, male moderate Democrat that they need to placate in order to win elections has been thoroughly debunked."

We've watched the focus on the cities.

What did we learn about how the ticket won?

TALEV: Look, we will see some of the final numbers as these counts in some of these key states settle. But we know, it is undeniable, that turnout in urban, among younger voters, turnout among Black voters, voters of color, hit historically high levels and was historically important in what was turnout on both sides, no doubt.

But I think you saw Joe Biden tip his hat to this last night when he told African American voters, you've always had my back and I will have yours.

And I think you saw it in the way they dispatched, the way the campaign dispatched Barack Obama and Kamala Harris to key cities in the United States, whether it was in Michigan or whether it was in the southeastern United States.

That turnout they knew was important and it, indeed, became important. And if you were in Washington last night and anywhere near Black Lives Matter Plaza or, basically, any bridge or overpass in Washington, D.C., you could see the throngs of people of color turning out, not just to celebrate the election of a ticket that is historic but to claim their piece of it and to say, we did this.

BLACKWELL: Yes. Same thing in parts of Atlanta. I mean, the people doing the cha-cha slide at 10th and Piedmont is probably the most Atlanta thing, the way to celebrate an election that I saw last night.

Let's go back to Kamala Harris because we heard from the executive director of BlackPAC that this is fundamentally about the ways in which the Democratic Party needs to shift, ushering a living example for the country to be able to imagine what it looks like to have diverse leadership at the highest levels of government.

Extend this beyond the history and -- and the image.

What will the vice president-elect's role be in this administration?

TALEV: Victor, look. She's going to be wearing many hats and one may come down to who controls the Senate. And that will be probably decided by two races in Georgia, where Black turnout is going to be essential. One candidate is white, where the other Democrat on the other race is African American. And where Harris could be the tiebreaker vote. That has nothing to do with race. That has to do with the powers of the Vice President.

But there are issues the Biden campaign and now the Biden presidency is dealing with, everything from racial justice and how to make some reforms come out of this terrible year, disparities and the pandemic, the killing of George Floyd, the summer of protests, so many other incidents.

Kamala Harris will be important in that, both, because she is a person of color and because of background as a prosecutor and her understanding of some of the nuances here in health care also is going to be essential in the Biden administration.

And there are massive disparities in health care. So I think this is going to project beyond issues just superficially and more obviously racial in nature, to trickle throughout domestic policy and how the people, the networks of people, she can tap. The people she can reach and her understanding of some of the nuances of these issues. Whether they have to do with race or whether they have to do with immigrants or Native Americans will come to bear.


BLACKWELL: Let me ask you about the Trump campaign leading into the announcement, the projection on Saturday. Bill Stepien, campaign manager; Jason Miller, senior adviser; put aside that they say they won Pennsylvania and they did not.

They say that they were going to win Nevada by 5,500 votes; Arizona, the call from FOX was wrong.

Were they -- was this another instance of, for example, of audience of one for the president?

Or was there really a rosy picture that just was wrong?

Do we have any way to know if they were just lying to everybody or they just got it wrong, Pennsylvania aside?

TALEV: We were hearing, consistently, internally, from the Trump campaign and folks close to the Trump campaign, that they thought that the numbers were much closer. They -- we were hearing different things in the beginning of the night, than emerged over a couple of days.

And I think we've seen, on both sides of the aisle -- and not on the aisle but in just media polling -- how complicated it is for a pandemic and how complicated it is to capture the true sentiment of Trump voters as part of a sample. But I think in other cases, there wasn't a blue wave, we know that.

But there was this red mirage effect that they had been more doubtful of. I think that the mail-in voting became such a crucial piece of this.

The president messaging over a period of months, telling his voters, don't vote by mail. Of course, in the end, it was the people who voted by mail that put President-Elect Biden not just over the top but, clearly, enough over the top that the networks and the AP were able to project the winner in this race.

But you're asking, also, another question, which is like, what's going to happen now?

And at least the posture of the Trump administration, of the Trump campaign, is that they are prepared to go to the mat. Continued pushes for litigation. We don't know, yet, how significantly they will try to employ some of the levers they have, with governors or legislatures, involving electors or processes to slow down the certifications coming forward.

The early indications are that it may not matter if these numbers are large enough and we think they are. The Republican establishment, what's left of the Republican establishment, holds its ground. But they could certainly slow things down. It's not clear whether the president really doesn't intend to concede or whether he will, at some point.

BLACKWELL: All right. Margaret Talev of Axios, thanks so much.

TALEV: Thanks, Victor.

PAUL: So we have a bit of a divided nation this morning. CNN's Polo Sandoval in New York, talking about the emotions running rampant last night after Joe Biden had won Pennsylvania.

Now of course, as we said, president-elect. Polo, there is a divide in the country, obviously, when you look at the numbers of people who voted and how they voted. But talk to us about what happened overnight.

POLO SANDOVAL, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Christi, because of that division, there are perhaps many supporters of President Trump that may be struggling to accept that Joe Biden will be the nation's next commander in chief.

For example, this predominantly blue part of the country and many other parts of the country as well, many Biden supporters, they took to the streets last night, celebrating into the morning.


SANDOVAL (voice-over): Celebrations in cities across the U.S., including many of the places that swept Joe Biden into the White House, from New York to Miami in the east and Denver to Austin out West, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris supporters flooded into the streets, after CNN and other news organizations projected Biden as the winner Saturday morning.

Honking horns, cheering, dancing and popping champagne. In the U.S. capital, a crowd packed into the streets in front of the White House, at Black Lives Matter Plaza, within seconds of the race being called.

Streets nearby, filled with people shouting, banging pots and pans and singing.

In Philadelphia, which was key to Biden's decisive Pennsylvania win, cars honked, people waved Biden flags and a large crowd gathered outside of Philadelphia city hall. It was unseasonably warm and people were pouring into the streets with everything from coffees to cocktails.

In New York City, people gathered outside of the Trump International Hotel and Tower chanting, "No more Trump."

In Times Square, a doctor in New York had this reaction.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Just seeing how this pandemic ravaged our city, I am so thrilled that we're going to have a leader who's going to take this pandemic and do what it needs to be done.


SANDOVAL (voice-over): Senator minority leader Chuck Schumer joined the crowds gathered outside the Barclays Center in Brooklyn, seen holding up a Biden-Harris sign.

In Chicago, crowds gathered to celebrate outside Trump Tower, cheering and ringing bells while cars honked. Some people, raising Biden-Harris signs from their car windows.

In Atlanta at Freedom Park, people sipped champagne and danced in the streets.

In Austin, Texas, a Democratic stronghold in the middle of red Texas, revelers waved Biden 2020 flags in front of the state capital. While Biden and Harris did not win Florida, their supporters flocked to Cafe Versailles in the heart of the Cuban American community in Miami.

In Las Vegas, vehicles draped in Biden-Harris flags, driving through the streets, celebrations continued into the night, all across America.


SANDOVAL: You look at those pictures across the country. It is obvious there was little to no social distancing at many of these gatherings here though there was widespread mask usage. I witnessed plenty of it.

But we do need to remind viewers, that CDC guidance, it remains the same and that is to avoid large gatherings, especially as you look at these record numbers we have been seeing in terms of infections and deaths.

BLACKWELL: Another 126,000 new cases reported yesterday, more than 1,000 deaths. Polo Sandoval, thanks so much.

PAUL: So President Trump's refusal to commit to a peaceful transition of power has a lot of people wondering, is a formal concession really even needed?

We're going to hear from Julian Zelizer, a historian and professor, about what that means.






BIDEN: Especially those moments, and especially those moments when this campaign was at its lowest ebb, the African American community stood up again for me. You always had my back and I'll have yours.


PAUL: President-Elect Joe Biden there, thanking Black voters, for good reason, because he likely wouldn't have been the Democratic presidential nominee without their support, particularly, in South Carolina.

BLACKWELL: Yes. You remember this. House majority whip and South Carolina congress man Jim Clyburn. He provided a crucial endorsement for the now president-elect, right before the primary there. And here he is, talking about Biden's win.


CLYBURN: Here we are about to inaugurate a gentleman, who was vice president to the first African American president, as far as we know. And he is also going to be president with the first African American- Asian American vice president.

That is a tremendous thing -- and also, the daughter of immigrants. I think this campaign, when you look at it and the Biden-Harris ticket, they say so much about what this country is all about.


BLACKWELL: And Congressman Clyburn also says that he privately urged Biden to pick a Black woman as his running mate before he chose Vice President-Elect Kamala Harris.

PAUL: Now President Trump has yet to give any public sign that he's prepared to relinquish power. We know that two sources are telling CNN this morning Jared Kushner, yes, the president's son-in-law and senior adviser, has approached him about conceding the election. We don't know how that was received by the president. But we want to bring in CNN political analyst and historian Julian


Julian, it's good to see you this morning. I know the president, he is known for breaking tradition.

If he refuses to concede, however, what happens next?

Is there a precedent for this?

JULIAN ZELIZER, CNN POLITICAL ANALYST: No. We've had presidential concessions since 1896. It's a norm. It's not part of the Constitution. And presidents have followed that norm as a way to unify the country around the results.

If President Trump decides not to do it, nothing consequential happens to the outcome. He will not be president in January and Joe Biden will. But it is a norm that would be useful, if he followed it.

PAUL: There is something that is -- is so historic about this election as well. The President-Elect Biden is going to go down in history as a president-elect with the most votes ever recorded. But as of votes -- most votes recorded, Donald Trump, President Trump, will be second there. Talk to us about the significance of that.

ZELIZER: Sure. You know, it wasn't a landslide; Joe Biden did incredibly well. But that means there's still a lot of support, not only for President Trump but for the kinds of politics he represented. And that will be reflected in Congress.

So that will force Joe Biden as president to really try to find points of compromise and to understand that he doesn't have a clean slate, as he pushes for his agenda. So I think that's going to put a lot of political pressure in the choices that Biden makes in his first year.

PAUL: I want to read something that you wrote, your latest piece in "USA Today," about holding President Trump accountable.

You write this, "Turning a blind eye to abuses of power might heal the political careers of individual partisans but it does nothing to heal the nation."

Julian, there may be a lot of people who argue, it's just time to move on. Let's not exacerbate the divides. President Trump's already facing legal action in New York.

Why not let that play out the justice in this?

ZELIZER: Well, it depends what happens. This is, you know, looking back to when Gerald Ford pardoned Richard Nixon for the crimes that he might have committed. And there is always a pressure to move on. There's always a pressure to let things be.

But accountability matters and it really depends what the administration finds about things that have gone wrong or ways in which President Trump had abused his power. And there's something to accountability, also, in bringing some closure to a very contentious era. So I don't think it's always clear-cut that moving on is the best path.

PAUL: So what would you expect Joe Biden to do?

ZELIZER: I don't know what Joe Biden is going to do. And my instinct is that a Biden presidency, this was written before, actually, he was even the nominee, I believe. Biden's instinct is to move on.


ZELIZER: So I do think that is the path that's going to happen. I'm just not sure it's the best for the nation in the long run.

But Biden, by inclination, is a compromiser. He's someone who wants normalcy. He is someone who wants balance in the political system. So I think this is the way in which he is going to govern. And I don't expect him to go down that route, at this point.

PAUL: OK. I want to talk about Vice President-Elect, Kamala Harris, the first woman, the first daughter of Indian and Jamaican immigrants, the first to graduate from HBCU. She's going to be the highest ranking woman in U.S. history.

How does she shape U.S. government from this point forward?

ZELIZER: She's going to be an extraordinarily influential vice president simply because of who she is. I think she brings a certain amount of power, in terms of defining what the Democratic Party represents and what it can be.

But from the start, it has always been clear this will be a partnership presidency. And she will be a vice president, who's very important in trying to deal with the Senate, we don't know what party will control the Senate.

And also, helping Biden craft an agenda that, within this center, still can appeal to core elements of the Democratic Party, including progressives, who don't want to be left aside after this historic election and after historic turnout brought Biden the presidency.

PAUL: Julian Zelizer, always appreciate your perspective. He is historian and author of "Burning Down the House: Newt Gingrich, the Fall of a Speaker and the Rise of the New Republican Party."

Julian, good to see you, again. Thank you.

BLACKWELL: Well, one of the things we know about Joe Biden, he tells us often, he is Irish and his Irish family is celebrating his win. Coming up, what the win means outside of America.



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BIDEN: Tonight, the whole world is watching America and I believe, at our best, America is a beacon for the globe. We will lead not only by the example of our power but by the power of our example.


PAUL: This morning, leaders of some of the country's closest allies are congratulating the president-elect on his victory.

BLACKWELL: Nic Robertson has more on the global reaction. He joins us now from London.

Nic, hello to you.

So what has the reaction been, you know?

For days, the world watched the count. Now there's a president-elect.

NIC ROBERTSON, CNN INTERNATIONAL DIPLOMATIC EDITOR: And I think, perhaps, words from the mayor of Paris really strike the tone, "Welcome back, America."

Look. I mean, this is what so many of United States' allies, particularly here in Europe, who had such a tough time under President Trump. They want a non-isolationist, multilateralist United States. They want to build and rekindle the transatlantic relationship. We've heard that from E.U. leaders, leaders all across the European Union.

It's so important to have a leader in the White House, who has consistency that they feel that they can deal with. I have to say, on the lighter side, in London, on the one hand, you have the prime minister, who isn't in the best position to deal with a President- Elect Biden because he's been so close to President Trump, who wants a trade deal, is talking about congratulating the president or vice president-elect and saying we will work together on climate change, trade and security.

But on the other side of London, at Madame Tussaud's wax works, the model there of President Trump, that's been redressed, now, in his golfing outfit. Over in Ireland, in the village, town of Ballina, actually, which is where President-Elect Joe Biden has many relatives from. I was there a month or so ago talking to those relatives. They are hugely excited about -- about Joe Biden being elected president, not just because he's from that town but because they're having trouble with the British over the Brexit deal.

And Joe Biden has told Boris Johnson that, if you go ahead with your plans to damage the Good Friday peace agreement in Northern Ireland, forget your wonderful trade deal with the United States.

So the people in Ireland, in Ballina, Joe Biden's heritage, the place that many of his relatives came from, they love this president, this president-elect. So you'll look, there is a lot you could talk about here, at the moment.

I think one other point worth mentioning, the German foreign minister said, yes, we want this transatlantic relationship. And we have got a new deal to offer you, the United States. We have got some proposals about how this new relationship is going to work.

Because Germany really got buffeted by President Trump. The Europeans recognize the U.S. is shifting and they need to try to get that relationship on better, different terms than it was before so they can't have a President Trump-type situation, again.

PAUL: All right. Our Nic Robertson, we appreciate all of the insight there from the globe. Thank you so much.

And the U.S. election is front page news, obviously, around the world, some with tongue-in-cheek headlines.


BLACKWELL: Look at this. This is the front page of "The West Australian," it's a picture of the President-Elect Joe Biden, with the caption, "Phew!"

PAUL: One German newspaper turned one of the president's favorite taglines into this headline. "You're fired."

BLACKWELL: And from Canada, the "National Post" poked fun at the uncertainty over the last few days about who was projected the winner of the race. On the cover, a picture of the president-elect with the caption, "Apparently, Likely, Probably, Presumptive, Almost Certainly, Next President of the United States."

PAUL: I think everybody felt like that, for a few days there, certainly. But they've been waiting 28 years to, let's say, party like it was 1992. The prospect of a Democrat in Georgia has people in the streets. We will take you there, next.






PAUL: Take a look at Atlanta this morning at 5:50. It looks quiet right now. It was not for a good chunk of the day yesterday as this razor-thin margin in the presidential race has Georgia headed for a recount, now. But there were people all over the place in this state, as they were celebrating Joe Biden's win. This is traditionally a red state. It seems, at this point, Victor, to have turned blue.

BLACKWELL: It's not been called but the president-elect has had an advantage for more than a day now. Former Democratic gubernatorial candidate Stacey Abrams can take a lot

of credit for the possible flip. She turned her 2018 loss into this force to build on years of political experience, to turn out voters.

She formed several organizations, boosted turnout. She wrote a book about voter suppression, co-produced an Amazon Prime documentary, all in the fight for democracy. She did a lot to get voters to the polls.

PAUL: Abrams' work looks like it's about to pay off with the first Democratic presidential candidate to win Georgia in 28 years.

BLACKWELL: Yes. CNN Correspondent, Gary Tuchman shows us that was a cause for celebration for a lot of people in Atlanta.


GARY TUCHMAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: After CNN projected Joe Biden the winner of Pennsylvania, making him the president-elect, people started gathering in the streets here in the Midtown section of Atlanta right away. They were here all afternoon, all night.

At its peak, there were thousands of people in the streets here. It was chaotic at first -- it's kind of chaotic now, also -- but it was chaotic at first because traffic was still moving up and down the streets and there were some near collisions.

Ultimately the police closed the streets. More people came out and the celebration kept going on. And Joe Biden and Kamala Harris started speaking on TV, people gathered outside the bars in the street to watch the speeches very quietly and then continued partying into the night.

I will tell you all, one thing we were worried about, there was a pro- Trump rally earlier in the day, here in Atlanta. They have every right to be here but there was concern that some of them might come here and it could lead to a problem.

That didn't happen; everything's been very peaceful. Also, with COVID, there's been no social distancing here, whatsoever; 95 percent of people are wearing masks. Some masks have started to come off as the night went on and people have been drinking more.

But all in all, most of the people still have masks. Either way, it's been quite a celebratory evening. People are joyous and a lot of people tell us they can't believe -- they wanted Joe Biden to win -- but a lot of people tell us they didn't think he would win. And he did and this celebration will continue, it seems, indefinitely -- this is Gary Tuchman, CNN, in Atlanta.


BLACKWELL: Gary, thank you.

So this is interesting. Two shows, over the course of four years, Dave Chappelle has had this unique distinction of hosting "SNL" after two presidential elections now. His reactions, the difference between the two, I mean, there could not be a broader separation.





BLACKWELL: All right. Welcome back. Coming back at the top of the hour. This is an interesting comparison Comedian Dave Chappelle hosted the first "Saturday Night Live" show after President Trump was elected. Watch a bit of that.


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Gosh, I think America is racist.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You know, I remember my great grandfather told me something like that. He was like a slave or something.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I just -- I can't believe it. Like, why aren't people turning out for Hillary the way they did for Barack Obama?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Maybe, because you're replacing a charismatic, 40- year-old Black guy, with a 70-year-old white woman. I mean, that's like the Knicks replacing Patrick Ewing with Neil Patrick Harris.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And Donald Trump has been elected President of the United States.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, you guys are right. It's an historic night. Don't worry about it. Eight years are going to fly by.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, and don't worry. It's going to be all white.


PAUL: Oh, my gosh. So fast forward to where we all sit, now. Chappelle is the first host after Joe Biden is projected to be the next president. Here's what he said.




CHAPPELLE: You know, a lot of people don't like him. But I thought the guy was at least an optimist. I am not as optimistic as he was.

I look at it like, hmm, there's bad people on both sides?

All right, just trying it out. (END VIDEO CLIP)

PAUL: All right. Well, you know, you expect such big comedy from him. He is such a smart man as well, we need to point out. And he just tried to do what he tried to do, in that moment, Victor.

BLACKWELL: The best comedy -- the best comedy always makes us think, I believe. It always makes us think.

PAUL: It is true. All right. Big morning, obviously, ahead of us. We have a lot more for you in the next hour of "NEW DAY," which starts right now.


HARRIS: It is now my great honor to introduce the President-Elect of the United States of America, Joe Biden.