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President-elect Joe Biden, It's Time To Heal In America; Biden Plans To Name Coronavirus Task Force Tomorrow; Biden Wins Election, Trump Refuses To Concede; Cities Erupt In Celebration After Joe Biden Wins Presidency; Harris Becomes First Woman Elected U.S. Vice President. Aired 6-7a ET

Aired November 08, 2020 - 06:00   ET



JOE BIDEN (D), PRESIDENT-ELECT OF THE UNITED STATES: I pledge to be a president who seeks not to divide but unify.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I know this is a painful moment for many who wish for a different outcome. But at this moment, I believe that we have an extraordinary opportunity to move this country forward.

HARRIS: We the people have the power to build a better future.

REP. JAMES CLYBURN (D-SC): The Biden/Harris ticket, it says so much about what this country is all about.

BIDEN: We'll lead not only by the example of our power but by the power of our example.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We brought our half Indian girls here. They're too young to vote, but they can be part of the process and they can see that a woman can make it to the White House.

HARRIS: America is ready, and so are Joe and I.


ANNOUNCER: This is NEW DAY WEEKEND with Victor Blackwell and Christi Paul.

CHRISTI PAUL, CNN ANCHOR: There is the White House, you see that right window with the light on at 6:00 a.m. on this Sunday morning. President-elect Joe Biden says you know what, it's time to heal and to end what he called a -- quote -- "grim era of demonization" in the U.S.

VICTOR BLACKWELL, CNN ANCHOR: Last night Biden said that he plans to name his coronavirus task force tomorrow to deal with what he calls the gravest threat facing the nation.

PAUL: And outgoing President Donald Trump pushing forward with his legal fight. This morning we're learning one of his closest advisers has approached him about conceding. BLACKWELL: Let's start this hour though by listening to what the president-elect said last night.


BIDEN: America has called upon us to marshal the forces of decency, the forces of fairness, to marshal the forces of science and the forces of hope, and the great battles of our time. The battle to control the virus, the battle to build prosperity, the battle to secure your family's health care, the battle to achieve racial justice and root out systemic racism in this country.


BIDEN: And the battle to save our planet by getting climate under control.


BIDEN: The battle to restore decency, defend democracy, and give everybody in this country a fair shot. That's all they're asking for, a fair shot.


PAUL: Well, CNN's Jason Carroll was there and is still in Wilmington, Delaware, where that speech was given last night. So, Jason, we know President-elect Biden, he says that he's going to get to work immediately. We know that there are some executive orders that are expected as he is -- right after he sworn in on January 20th. What else have you learned about what his plan is initially? And good morning.

JASON CARROLL, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, first -- yes, good morning to you.

Well, first and foremost, President-elect Biden and his team, they know about the gravity of the pandemic. And so what they wanted to do is they wanted to be able to hit the ground running. Last week you'll remember then Vice President Biden and then Senator Kamala Harris met with economic advisers. They met with health advisers about the pandemic, ways of attacking it.

During his speech, he also said that he would spare no expense to turn around the pandemic. And last night, he said that tomorrow he's going to be laying out more details about this 12-person task force that has been formed to fight the pandemic.


BIDEN: On Monday, I will name a group of leading scientists and experts as transition advisers to help take the Biden/Harris COVID plan and convert it into an action blueprint that will start on January the 20th, 2021.


CARROLL: And, Christi, looking ahead, there have been questions about the transition. Will it be a peaceful transition? Will the Trump administration cooperate with this peaceful transition?

Well, the Biden team has been prepared for this, as well, behind the scenes. His transition team has been working since Labor Day on this and on other issues, as well his deputy campaign manager said, look, either way, whatever happens with the transition, if the Trump administration cooperates or not, the Biden team is ready.


KATE BEDINGFIELD, BIDEN CAMPAIGN COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR: Obviously the peaceful transition of power is a core bedrock principle that our democracy is founded on. And, of course, we would hope and I think it would be a good thing for the American people to hear from President Trump. But that's his decision.


CARROLL: And, Christi, looking ahead another one of the goals, a major goal is to try to unify the country. You heard some of the sound there at the top of the show about what Biden said last night about unifying the country.


This is not a new message. We've heard this from the beginning of the campaign. Last night he drilled down on some of that messaging again, talked about not being red states or blue states but the United States. And he talked about restoring the soul of the country.

It's a tall order trying to reunify the country during such divided times. But, again, this is just one of the -- one of another challenges the Biden administration's going to have to face going forward -- Christi -- Paul -- Victor.

BLACKWELL: I'll take it. Jason Carroll, thank you so much.

PAUL: It happens when you've got a name -- when you got a whole name that's two first names. It's just -- it has happened to me my whole life. It's all right, Jason. It's all good.

BLACKWELL: All is forgiven. CNN's Jeremy Diamond is up next --

CARROLL: It's early. It's early.

BLACKWELL: I know it is. I know it is.

PAUL: It is and you've all been working so hard. You've all been working so hard.

BLACKWELL: Jeremy, President Trump -- let's go to you. President Trump has refused to concede. Now says his campaign is going to travel all of these legal avenues, says that this is not over.

What do we know about what is next and what has been attempted by those closest to him?

JEREMY DIAMOND, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Well, it only took a few minutes after CNN projected the race yesterday for Joe Biden that President Trump released a statement via his campaign vowing that this election is far from over. The president's insisting that he will not rest until the American people have the honest vote count as the president says that they deserve.

But what we know is that there's already been some movement internally inside the White House to get the president to begin to acknowledge reality here and to consider conceding this race to Joe Biden. Something that he has not done.

It was notable, of course, last night when we heard from President- elect Joe Biden that he was not able to say that he had received a call from the opposing candidate, in this case President Trump, because that call hasn't yet been made. And of course we know that it isn't just President Trump who so far is refusing to publicly acknowledge reality, we are also seeing the same thing from Republican leaders including the House Minority Whip Steve Scalise. Listen.


REP. STEVE SCALISE (R-LA): Look, there's a lot of game left to be played here. You look at Al Gore and George Bush, that wasn't decided until the second week of December. And here we are in early November.


DIAMOND: Now, what we are hearing from our sources inside the White House and around the campaign is that while publicly we are seeing this effort by the president to continue to cast doubt on the outcome of the election, he is insisting that there are all these kind of shenanigans that are happening despite a total lack of evidence for any kind of widespread voter fraud. But we are told that privately the president is beginning to acknowledge that reality, and he has not denied the outcome of the election privately. The question, though, is whether or not he will take that public.

For now at least we know that the president and his aides, they are determined to pursue any legal avenues that they can. They are going to be pursuing recounts in several states, and also looking at some legal challenges specifically in the state of Pennsylvania where we have heard these allegations from the Trump campaign.

But ultimately most lawyers who have talked on this matter agree that there are very few things that the president can do legally to change the outcome of this election and ultimately this is all heading toward one inevitability which is that President Joe Biden will likely be sworn in in January of next year -- Christi, Victor.

PAUL: All right. Jeremy Diamond, good to see you this morning. Thank you. BLACKWELL: Thousands of people rushed to the streets yesterday after CNN and other networks called Pennsylvania for Joe Biden. Of course, that meant that he would become the president-elect. And CNN's Polo Sandoval reports on the celebrations that we saw across the country.


POLO SANDOVAL, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Celebrations in cities across the U.S. including many of the places that swept Joe Biden into the White House. From New York to Miami in the east to Denver to Austin out west, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris supporters flooded into the streets after CNN and other news organizations projected Biden as the winner Saturday morning. Honking horns, cheering, dancing, and popping champagne.

In the U.S. capital, a crowd packed into the streets in front of the White House at Black Lives Matter plaza within seconds of the race being called. Streets nearby filled with people shouting, banging pots and pans, and singing.

In Philadelphia, which was key to Biden's decisive Pennsylvania win cars honked, people waved Biden flags and a large crowd gathered outside of Philadelphia's city hall. It was unseasonably warm, and people were pouring into the streets with everything from coffees to cocktails.

In New York City people gathered outside of the Trump International Hotel and Tower chanting, "No more Trump." In Times Square a doctor in New York had this reaction.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Just seeing how this pandemic ravaged our city, I am so thrilled that we're going to have a leader who's going to take this pandemic and do what -- it needs to be in done.


SANDOVAL: Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer joined the crowd that gathered outside the Barclays Center in Brooklyn seen holding up a Biden/Harris sign. In Chicago, crowds gathered to celebrate outside Trump Tower, cheering and ringing bells while cars honked, some people raising Biden/Harris signs from their car windows.

The crowd also gathered in Atlanta at Freedom Park while people sipped champagne and danced in the streets. In Austin, Texas, a Democratic stronghold in the middle of red Texas, revelers waved Biden 2020 flags in front of the State Capitol.

While Biden and Harris did not win Florida, their supporters flocked the Cafe Versailles in the heart of the Cuban American community in Miami. And in Las Vegas, vehicles draped in Biden/Harris flags driving through the streets. Celebrations continued into the night all across America.


SANDOVAL: And, look, last night at in Times Square, I saw plenty of mask wearing, very few people without that. However, there was little to no social distancing. In fact, when you see those pictures, the same can be said of many of the celebrations across the country. And we have to remind the viewers, Victor and Christi, that CDC guidance right now, it is not changed just because the election may be behind us. It's still highly recommended that people avoid these kinds of large gatherings.

But obviously the historic significance of yesterday drew out those crowds. And in places like Times Square it's really difficult to socially distant, though authorities are still recommending that people try to avoid those crowds.

PAUL: Yes, it is a smart reminder to make due to the fact that more than 1,000 people died yesterday of the virus. Thank you so much, Polo Sandoval.

BLACKWELL: So, Polo showed us the celebrations, and the day was ended with president-elect and vice president-elect speaking to supporters in Wilmington, Delaware. Kamala Harris is the first woman, the first black person, the first South Asian to be elected vice president. And she talked about the historic nature of the moment.


HARRIS: While I may be the first woman in this office, I will not be the last. Every little girl watching tonight sees that this is a country of possibilities. And to the children of our country, regardless of your gender, our country has sent you a clear message dream with ambition, lead with conviction, and see yourselves in a way that others may not simply because they've never seen it before. But know that we will applaud you every step of the way.


BLACKWELL: All right. With me now, White House correspondent for American Urban Radio Networks and CNN political analyst April Ryan. April, it's been a while since you've been on the early, early show. Good morning to you.

APRIL RYAN, CNN POLITICAL ANALYST: Good morning, my friend. I've missed you and Christi, how are you?

BLACKWELL: I missed you. We're doing well.

So, listen, we don't know what the 116th Congress is going to do, right, but there -- 2022, State of the Union, President Biden could have over one shoulder madam speaker and madam vice president over the other. The significance of this moment, this election from your perspective?

RYAN: You know, just hearing that from you, Victor, sends me chills. Being in Washington for the last 23 years, you know Washington, D.C., even when Barack Obama was president, was a white male fraternity. And it's changing. And I think about the late, great Shirley Chisholm, the first black woman to run for president in 1972. She said being black and being a woman is a double whammy. So he's going to have a white woman and a black woman. Well, a woman of color, sitting behind him. It shows that women are seen.

Women are powerful. Women are at the forefront. You know, I think about the story that Valerie Jarrett told me in one of my books, "At Mama's Knee," when she and then-first lady Michelle Obama would take these walks outside of the White House. That beautiful first lady, Michelle Obama, people did not see her. They did not recognize her.

We are now seen. Women are leaders not only in the home but in the community, now in the White House.

BLACKWELL: I think -- I correct myself, 117th Congress. So let me ask you this -- we know that for months the conversation was about trying to win over Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and there was a focus on the white working class. But over the days between the last vote cast and the projection, we saw the focus on the cities, on Philadelphia, on Milwaukee early on, on Detroit, and for days in Georgia, in the Atlanta suburbs, what have we learned about the Democrat Party's prioritizes of either getting back that white working class or prioritizing the base, the black voters who have lifted this party?


RYAN: Victor, one thing we have to remember is the problems in Washington stem from people feeling like they are not under the umbrella of government at all. They have to talk to the white working class. But they also have to make the black base feel like it's done something or it's worth something. Not just feel, but they've got to work.

It's no longer, OK, we placate you during an election time. Black America put Joe Biden over the top. Not just cities, urban cities. You know, black America saved this presidency in the waning hours. They literally -- well, this president-elect, his efforts to be president.

But you know, it's interesting, all the other cities were counted, but they waited for the urban areas. And once those urban areas showed up, they showed out it reminds me of Selma, you know, in 2012. You know, with Roy Moore, if I got the year right. But it was Roy Moore. You know, black women showed up in Selma to say no more to Roy Moore.

So the Democratic Party and even the Republican Party -- they have to come to some kind of realization and reckoning with how they deal with black America. It's a community with the highest numbers of negatives, and you got deal with it. You've got to deal with it, and you also have to listen to black America in order for us to be we the people that everyone talks about.

BLACKWELL: Indeed. April Ryan, thank you so much.

RYAN: Appreciate you, Victor.

BLACKWELL: All right. Later this morning be sure to watch "STATE OF THE UNION." Jake Tapper has Symone Sanders, Congressman James Clyburn, Senator Mitt Romney, and Stacey Abrams and there will be others. "STATE OF THE UNION" airs at 9:00 Eastern right here on CNN.

PAUL: Still ahead, President Trump and his team refusing to concede it seems. Do they have any legitimate case here? What legal issues await this president as his time in office is coming to an end. We have an expert who's walking us through all of it.

BLACKWELL: And there were celebrations across the country and around the world. Still ahead, how the Biden/Harris win and their distant relatives are reacting to the win. Plus, the global leaders send congratulatory messages to the two.



PAUL: So there is pressure growing for President Trump to concede the race to President-elect Joe Biden. His personal attorney Rudy Giuliani however vows their legal fight is not over despite a failure thus far to present a legitimate challenge.


RUDY GIULIANI, PRESIDENT TRUMP'S PERSONAL ATTORNEY: Obviously he's not going to concede when at least 600,000 ballots are in question. These lawsuits will be brought starting on Monday.


PAUL: I want to discuss with CNN legal analyst and former assistant U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York Elie Honig. Elie, good morning to you. Thanks for getting up early on a Sunday no less.

ELIE HONIG, CNN LEGAL ANALYST: Good morning, Christi.

PAUL: OK. So Rudy Giuliani threw a number out there, 600,000 votes in question. First of all what do we know about that number, and second, how potent are any of these pending lawsuits they're talking about?

HONIG: All I can tell you about that number is it looks like Rudy Giuliani just sort of pulled that out of thin air as he has done with many assertions.

Look, the legal strategy so far from the Trump campaign has just been an absolute flop because they don't have evidence. They can throw out numbers like 600,000, they've not proved anything near that. The proof is in the pudding.

They've had a scatter shot approach where they file lawsuits all over the country, but they're getting thrown out of court. I mean, I'll give you one example, they filed the lawsuit in Michigan alleging ballot irregularity. It turned out the proof was they had a witness who heard from an unknown person who heard from a third person that there were ballot irregularities. That is not proof. That doesn't cut in court. That case got thrown right out the door. That seems to be the pattern here. PAUL: OK. So, the president as we know by law retains all of his power until noon on January 20th, the inauguration. With that said, what do you expect is going to happen between now and inauguration day?

HONIG: Hold on tight to your seats. I think President Trump is going to use every last ounce of power right up until 11:59:59 on January 20th. Watch for pardons. He has the pardon power. Many presidents have used the pardon power in their final days in office.

I would watch for him to pardon his political allies, some of the people who were convicted by Robert Mueller, Michael Flynn, Paul Manafort, George Papadopoulos. I would look at the possibility that he might pardon his family members who are under state investigations for fraud. Now presidential pardon doesn't cover people in a state prosecution, but might as well cover them for federal purposes. And then the big question is, will the president try to pardon himself? It's never happened in our history. We don't actually know if that's lawful or not. But if he tries it, we could find out.

PAUL: Yes. I was just going to ask if that's even legally possible. So, let's talk about what's next for the president because we know there are these two investigations in New York, into his businesses practice. This is prior to his 2016 election just to be clear. The potential criminal charges is what we're talking about.

How likely is it those cases will proceed and are there any protections for the president against them?

HONIG: He loses his protections. Now, look, the president has avoided all sorts of trouble by simply being in the White House. There are laws and policies especially the Justice Department that protect a sitting president. But he will not be the sitting president at 12:01 on January 20th. Look, he's got potential exposure from the federal government, from the Department of Justice, and potentially from Manhattan prosecutors.


They are focusing on the Manhattan state prosecutors, the D.A.'s office are focusing on various types of financial fraud. In some ways that's easier to prove and easier to prosecute than some of the things that might be federal. For example, obstruction of justice. But he's looking at at least two different avenues of potential criminal exposure once he gets out of office.

PAUL: Elie Honig, we value your perspective so much here. Thank you very being with us.

HONIG: Thanks, Christi.

PAUL: Of course.

BLACKWELL: So in his speech last night, President-elect Joe Biden vowed to unite the country. But with such deep political divisions, how will he be able to bring people together? We'll talk about that next. (COMMERCIAL BREAK)


JOE BIDEN, US PRESIDENT-ELECT: I mean it, especially those moments, especially those moments when this campaign was as low as damn. The African American community stood up again for me. You've always have my back, and I'll have yours.


VICTOR BLACKWELL, CNN ANCHOR: President-elect Joe Biden last night vowing to be a president for all Americans, and to work just as hard for those who did not vote for him as those who did. Let's have a conversation about what he'll actually be able to get done with CNN Political Commentator, Scott Jennings, and Democratic Strategist Anthony Coley. Welcome to both of you.


Thank you.

BLACKWELL: Scott, let me start with you. And I want to start the conversation with this as a narrow scope in the near term. What should the President do now?

JENNINGS: Well, Donald Trump, I think, look, he has every right to avail himself of the legal processes that exist for any campaign that thinks they've got valid claims. It's an incredibly close election in several states. But the evidence of, that's out there, is really, really thin. And so, the notion that they're going to find a way to overturn this election is really remote. And I think they need to be thinking about a way to concede the race at some juncture in the near future, if their claims don't pan out to help Joe Biden transition into the White House.

And then, as President Trump thinks about his place in the Republican Party, which, by the way, is very good. I mean, he had 93% of the Republican vote. He is, you know, very popular among party figures. He needs to think about what he's going to do with his future. And my view is that, politically could start in Georgia. And if Donald Trump wants to bounce back politically, one thing he could think about doing is helping his party win the Senate seats in Georgia.

But as a governing matter and just as a legacy matter, my advice would be do the right thing here, and that's gracefully exit the White House, help your successor, in this case Joe Biden, come in with the best possible chance of succeeding. And in history, I think we'll look kindly upon that.

BLACKWELL: Well, Anthony, I was going to get to this later but Scott already introduced it. So let me ask you, is president, former President Trump's steel on the stage good for the Democratic Party?

ANTHONY COLEY, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST: Well, it's certainly not good for democracy. My hope is that the President will do what is in the best interest of the country as Scott said, and that's the exit stage left. And if he does this the right way, and I take Scott's point here, his future is actually brighter, you know, in 2024, should he decide to run again, which I believe he will.

But let me just step back and put this whole conversation in context. The fact of the matter is, is that Democrats had a pretty -- it's a mixed bag, but they, at the top line, had a pretty good, pretty good day. It is very hard to defeat an incumbent president. It's only happened four times in the last 100 years. And along the way, Joe Biden received more votes for president than anybody who sought the office in the land.

Having said all of that and, of course, Kamala Harris' record breaking position as the nation's first female vice president. Having said all of that, if you look under the hood, it gets a little more difficult for Joe Biden to enact his congressional agenda because of significant Republican gains in the House and in the United States Senate.

BLACKWELL: Let me ask you about that. And it's a good segue because you said that Democrats had a pretty good day. They were forecasting and expecting a great day with the expectation of gaining seats in the House, potentially locking in a majority in the Senate. Now, there are Georgia run offs that could bring that in January. But why wasn't it a great day for Democrats?

COLEY: Well, there any number of ways to answer that. I'll start with just the facts. The fact of the matter is, is that Republicans won, every single House Republican who was up for reelection won to your point. And there is a strengthened majority of the United States Senate.

I believe that, at its core, Democrats have to do a better job at both connecting to some of these 70 million Americans who voted for Donald Trump, as well as expanding the base in a way that like Stacey Abrams and others are doing down in Georgia.

I make one final point, Victor. Rhetoric matters. I grew up in rural North Carolina where -- and a lot of people were in my hometown. I know they voted for Donald Trump. I went to school at historically black college. I know people there who voted for Donald Trump.


These people that I know, they're not racist. And I wish people own, left and center, wouldn't call everybody who voted for Donald Trump racist, because they're not. My hope is that -- yes, that people, on both sides of the aisle, will be mindful of the type of rhetoric we use as we tried to build governing majorities.

BLACKWELL: Yes. Donald Trump increased his share of black voters from 8% to 12%, that's 50% increase. Now, he said in 2016, he got 95% of the vote, but 12% shows more than he got last time around.

Scott, let me come to you now. I've heard people on this network and others remark about this great relationship between Joe Biden and Mitch McConnell. And that suggests that he -- that a President Biden would have a greater success with getting legislation through the Senate. It sounds really 2090 to me. Do you expect that that relationship will lead to any greater legislative success?

JENNINGS: I do, actually. And all throughout the Obama years when major deals were cut, when crisis was averted, it was often Vice President Biden then working with Mitch McConnell to get that done. And there are a great many things that need to get done. The government funding bills that will come up over the years, you know, that always seem to produce a crisis. Those things have to get done.

We're going to have more coronavirus work to do, whether it's relief or other issues. So there are big issues that need to be tackled. I actually talked to Senator McConnell this week. And he said, there's a number of areas of agreement I think that we could have in the short term that we could work together on.

So I actually think the American people delivered a message to both parties. And that is we don't want either of you to have too much power. And we want you to work together. We put a Democrat in the White House but as was pointed out, we let republicans gain seats in the House and maybe keep control of the Senate. That is a powerful message to both parties that neither has a mandate to run wild in the policy process. And both have a responsibility to work together.

And I personally think Biden and McConnell are two guys who get that and understand how to make that work in practice.

BLACKWELL: Scott Jennings, Anthony Coley, thank you both.

COLEY: Thank you.

JENNINGS: Thank you.

CHRISTI PAUL, CNN ANCHOR: So many hosted "Saturday Night Live" after the 2016 election. Here's how Dave Chappelle said or what he said on the losing side, how they should move forward.


DAVE CHAPPELLE, HOST, SNL: I'm wishing Donald Trump luck, and I'm going to give him a chance. And we, the historically disenfranchise, demand that he gave us one too.


PAUL: He came back to host after this election, his words for the winners this time around.




CHAPPELLE: I'll employ everybody who's celebrating the day to remember. It's good to be a humble winner. Remember when I was here four years ago? Remember how bad that felt? Remember that half the country, right now, still feels that way. Please remember that.

Remember that for the first time in the history of America, the life expectancy of white people is dropping because of heroin, because of suicide. All these white people out there that feel that anguish, that pain, that mad because they think nobody cares, maybe they don't.

Let me tell you something. I know how that feels. I promise you I know how that feels. You're a police officer. Every time you put your uniform on, you feel like you got a target on your back. You're appalled by the ingratitude that people have when you would risk your life to save them. Oh man, believe me.

Believe me. I know how that feels. Everyone knows how that feels. But here's the difference between me and you. You guys hate each other for that and I don't hate anybody. I just hate that feeling. That's what I fight through. That's what I suggest you fight.


PAUL: Isn't that something how such incredible comedians can also be so incredible and emotional, and raw with their feelings like that. That was his returned to SNL four years after he hosted the show post- election 2016. We want to bring in CNN Chief Media Correspondent and Anchor of "Reliable Sources" Brian Stelter now. Hey, Stelter.

BLACKWELL: Yes. Brian, it was a quite a monologue. What did you take away from it?

BRIAN STELTER, CNN CHIEF MEDIA CORRESPONDENT: Yes, yes. A lot of elections are about policy differences. This election is not about that. This election wasn't about that. It was about emotion. It was about the soul of the country. And Chappelle was speaking to that in his monologue last night. It's worth a watch on Hulu or wherever later in the day.

He also spoke about this idea of a kindness conspiracy, encouraging people to do random acts of kindness for black people. And he said toward the end, you know, find that joy. Don't let hate into your heart. Really important words from Chappelle, as this country tries to figure out if it is possible to get past the division to the last four years. It's one thing for President Trump to be leaving the stage to another actually find ways to, honestly, to hate less.


There's a lot of hate in this country and Chappelle was speaking to that.

Look, I think there's something really interesting going on elsewhere on the television dial as well. You've got people on Fox News trying to urge the President to step down gracefully, to leave the stage gracefully. Not to step down before Inauguration Day, but to concede and think about his future.

Here's Laura Ingraham the other night, basically talking to Trump through the television. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)=

LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: Losing, especially when you believe the process wasn't fair, it's a gut punch. And I'm not conceding anything tonight, by the way, but losing if that's what happens, it's awful. But President Trump's legacy will only become more significant if he focuses on moving the country forward. And then, the love and respect his supporters feel for him, it's only going to grow stronger, and his legacy, more historically significant.


STELTER: It is a testament to the normalization of Trump's narcissism, that there is so much commentary about how to convince him to concede and how he's going to feel, and how long it's going to take. But that is what we're seeing now on Fox and elsewhere. In some cases, talking to him through the television, trying to get through to him.

We know from CNN reporters Trump's been watching television, whenever he's not at the golf course he's consuming all this coverage. And I do wonder how much of an influence all the television coverage, whether it's liberals joking about him on SNL or conservatives trying to appease him on Fox, how much of that is going to be a factor in what Trump ultimately doesn't win.

PAUL: Yes, good question. Brian Stelter, always appreciate you walking us through this stuff. Thank you so much. And be sure to watch Brian. You can see more of him on "Reliable Sources." That is today at 11:00 Eastern right here on CNN.

BLACKWELL: World leaders are reacting to the news of Biden's win. And we're going to hear after the break from CNN's Chief International

Anchor Christiane Amanpour. She's going to explain what it could mean for the country's geopolitical alliances.



PAUL: So the world is watching every US election closely obviously. Few might bring such a swift change in policies and approaches between world leaders and international organizations as the one we've all witnessed here.

BLACKWELL: CNN's Chief International Anchor Christiane Amanpour joins us now. Christiane, good morning to you. Let me start here with the UK and the unique challenges the UK will have to deal with post-pandemic namely Brexit. What does this mean for that alliance?

CHRISTIANE AMANPOUR, CNN CHIEF INTERNATIONAL ANCHOR: Well, good morning, Victor. Indeed. Look, it's really interesting because obviously the UK and the US have this much vaunted special relationship. But Prime Minister Johnson very closely aligned himself with President Trump, hoping for a post-Brexit favorable trade deal. And now, you can see online people from the Obama-Biden times very angry with Johnson because of an article he wrote, which they call racist tropes against President Obama. And they say we're not going to forget this.

I mean, one former national security official said that Boris Johnson is a shape shifting creep. So this is very significant because Johnson needs a friendly deal from the United States. And I think it'll take a lot of work from the US to ingratiate themselves with the Biden administration, particularly on policy, as long as they, you know, keep threatening the Northern Ireland Peace Accord. It's not going to go down well.

Around the rest of Europe with the allies, there's a massive sense of relief, a massive sense of exhale, even diplomats is sending around texts. I've received one with, you know, emojis of champagne and cheers. They're doing it amongst themselves as well. There's a real sense of hope that Biden will bring back a multilateral gravity to the to the world order that the US is used to leading.

They want to get back to the Climate Accord. They want to get the US back to the Iran Nuclear Accord. They want the United States to get back to funding the WHO, particularly in the middle of this pandemic. Remember, President Trump pulled out. So those are very key issues ahead.

PAUL: Talk to us about what the expectation is for shifts in US policy when it comes to the Middle East?

AMANPOUR: Well, Christi, you know, in the Middle East, there are a lot of us allies. There's Israel, the government of Prime Minister Netanyahu. There's the Gulf States. There's Saudi Arabia. They all quite liked life under President Trump because President Trump really did give them a lot of what they wanted. Certainly, in Israel gave the Prime Minister almost a carte blanche when it comes to dealing with the Palestinians. A peace plan that was basically viewed as giving everything to Israel, whether it's allowing a continued occupation, a potential annexation, although that hasn't happened, but people are very scared about, you know, a very heavily weighted piece plan by Jared Kushner and Donald Trump that favored the Israeli government.

Benjamin Netanyahu has now finally come out and congratulated vice president, President-elect Joe Biden. And then, of course, the Gulf States, as I said, have got a very close relationship with the Trump administration. Iran, on the other hand, which these other states have sought to isolate over the years of the Trump administration. They, the Foreign Minister Javad Zarif has tweeted that he hopes for a return to multilateralism. And, of course, they're banking on President-elect Biden taking Iran and the United States back into that JCPOA, which was the Iran Nuclear Deal signed on with allies and the rest of the United Nations.

BLACKWELL: All right. We'll see what more we learn from the transition about priorities moving forward with the next administration. Christiane Amanpour, Thanks so much.

PAUL: Thank you, Christiane.

AMANPOUR: Thank you. So coming up next hour, David Graham from the Atlantic, talks about why he says the polling crisis is a catastrophe for American democracy. We've got to look at newspaper front pages too as the world is reacting to Joe Biden's win. Stay close.


PAUL: So the Biden-Harris victory is front page news across the country this morning.

BLACKWELL: You take a look at a few of the headlines. New York Times reads "Biden Beats Trump: Race is finally called after record turnout in chaotic term ends with rare incumbent loss."

PAUL: And the Washington Post has similar headline here "Biden Defeats Trump," the caption, "with Harris rebuilds blue wall calls for time to heal." And the Sunday edition of the Boston Herald reads, "Ready, Set, Joe," Biden edges Trump to become the 46th president.

BLACKWELL: Time Magazine's President-elect Joe Biden, Vice President- elect Kamala Harris wearing masks holding up one another's hands and the caption, "A Time to Heal."