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Nancy Grace
Misty Croslin Heads to Orlando Again
Aired October 05, 2009 - 20:00 ET
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MIKE BROOKS, GUEST HOST: Breaking news tonight. To Satsuma, Florida, where 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings gets tucked into bed. Just five hours later, she`s gone, the back door wide open. Last person to see little Haleigh alive that night, stepmom Misty Croslin.
Tonight, we`ve just confirmed Haleigh`s stepmom-slash-baby-sitter- slash-new wife Misty Croslin skips town again -- that`s right, again -- this time headed to Orlando with a female friend. Why? We also learn Misty still has not spoken to police since she`s been back from her last out-of-town trip. All this as Misty`s mom is now in a Florida jail. Has she finally talked to police? What does she really know?
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MISTY CROSLIN, HALEIGH`S BABY-SITTER/STEPMOTHER: They go out and look for that person, maybe they -- they would be -- have the answers. But they`re trying get all the answers from me that I don`t have.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Huge bombshells in the search for Haleigh Cummings, as tensions rise. Nancy Grace confirms new wife-slash-baby- sitter Misty Croslin has left Satsuma, Florida, again, now for a second time, this time heading to Orlando with a girlfriend. Why? What is Misty hiding?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What Misty needs to do is come forth and tell the truth, and she`s obviously not doing that because there are inconsistencies in her very self-serving story. And the truth doesn`t have versions, at least not coming from one person.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Misty Croslin still hasn`t spoken with police since her last trip out of town. Why not?
CROSLIN: ... answer any questions I have to because I know I didn`t do anything to that little girl. I would never hurt her.
NANCY GRACE, HOST, "NANCY GRACE": Miss Neves, I don`t mean to grill you, but it just doesn`t all fit together.
TERESA NEVES, HALEIGH`S PATERNAL GRANDMOTHER: To me, it`s a very dysfunctional family, and that`s the best way I can describe that. I just don`t know what to think of the whole thing.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: All this while Misty`s mom now sits in a Florida jail cell, extradited from Tennessee after being arrested for allegedly stealing checks. Now that she`s back in Florida, have police questioned her about Haleigh?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They`re going to have to come up with enough evidence or she`s going to have to get an overwhelming amount of fear or pressure from her family to come clean. Otherwise, she`s just going to hide and run, like she`s doing right now.
RONALD CUMMINGS, HALEIGH`S FATHER: I`m not hiding anything for anybody. And if somebody had something to do with it, let them fry. So be it.
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BROOKS: And tonight, breaking news, to Kansas. A beautiful teen girl vanishes. Police say she`s in danger. Eighteen-year-old coed Keighley Ann Alyea disappears just after witnessing a violent fight between her friend and her ex-boyfriend. In the last hours, cops find Keighley`s car just five miles from her home, but no Keighley. Law enforcement searching for clues. Tonight, where is 18-year-old Keighley?
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A beautiful teen girl simply vanishes into thin air, and tonight Kansas police looking for your help. Eighteen-year-old Keighley Ann Alyea last seen in her own home. Police say they`re urgently concerned because just days ago, Keighley witnessed a fight between a friend and that friend`s brother, which escalated until the police were called. The friend`s brother is Keighley`s ex-boyfriend.
KELLY BASTEL, MOTHER OF MISSING TEEN: My gut`s not telling me good things right now.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Since reporting her missing, Keighley Alyea`s family`s been worried sick.
PAT HAYES, FATHER OF MISSING TEEN: I`ve been through a lot of things in my life, and I can honestly say I`ve never felt this way before.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Police, unable to locate Keighley, have tracked down her vehicle about five miles away from her own home, that green Mazda now being processed for evidence. Police hit a dead end checking Keighley`s cell phone activity, as three men have been questioned and released in the desperate race against time to find Keighley.
HAYES: It`s just like there`s a huge part of me that`s missing, and it`s not going to be right until I find it.
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BROOKS: Good evening. I`m Mike Brooks, in for Nancy Grace. Tonight, we just confirmed Haleigh Cummings`s stepmom-slash-baby-sitter-slash-new wife Misty Croslin Cummings skips town again. That`s right, again. This time, she`s headed to Orlando with a female friend.
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911 OPERATOR: OK, sir, let me talk to your wife. Let me get some information from her.
CUMMINGS: (INAUDIBLE)
911 OPERATOR: OK. Can I talk to her?
CUMMINGS: (INAUDIBLE)
911 OPERATOR: OK.
CUMMINGS: How the (DELETED) can you let my daughter get stole (DELETED)?
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Breaking news. Shocking developments in the case of missing 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings. After weeks of rising tensions, stepmom Misty Croslin leaves town and comes back. But now Nancy Grace confirms Misty has left town again, this time with a female friend to Orlando. What`s going on?
GRACE: She doesn`t have a job. Ronald Cummings has put so much effort into trying to find his missing 5-year-old daughter, he has been let go from his job. How does she manage to stay down at Disney World for a week?
CUMMINGS: We need to find my daughter.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK. Do you think Misty holds some information that could help do that?
CUMMINGS: I don`t think that she holds any information that`s going to find Haleigh.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Misty still hasn`t spoken to police since she`s returned from her last trip out of town. Why not? When will the last known person to see Haleigh finally talk again?
CROSLIN: If I had something to do with it, I knew where she was, we wouldn`t be sitting here today, we would have her!
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It may very well be she doesn`t know what happened to the little girl that night, But that doesn`t mean that she was there or wasn`t there.
GRACE: Now that you`ve been told, whether you accept it or not, that your wife has flunked a poly, have you asked her what happened?
CUMMINGS: I asked her, but I don`t get any answers.
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BROOKS: OK. Gone again. Where is Misty Croslin Cummings now? Is she on a vacation? I doubt it. She doesn`t have a job, no income. What is going on down in Satsuma, or Orlando?
I want to go straight out to Marlaina Schiavo, NANCY GRACE producer, on the scene there in Florida. Marlaina, come on, what is going on now?
MARLAINA SCHIAVO, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER: Mike, I mean, the tensions are rising between Ronald and Misty. She`s taken off again. She needs her space. Now, we know that the investigation has heated up...
BROOKS: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait! She needs her space?
SCHIAVO: You got it. She needs some space, Mike. She -- you know, a couple weeks ago, the investigation was kicking up again. We saw a lot going on. There was a draining of a pond. There were allegations against Misty. She was failing these polygraphs. And you know, she took off. She went to Orlando. She got some space from Ronald. She came back last week. But now, Mike, she`s gone again. She`s back -- she`s on her way back to Orlando with her friend.
BROOKS: OK. Who is this friend of hers that she`s on her vacation, walkabout, whatever you want to talk -- whatever you want to call it? Who is this friend?
SCHIAVO: It`s a girlfriend of hers, Mike. It`s a person she`s met somewhat recently in the past year that she`s become close with. And it`s someone who is helping her out right now during this rough time.
BROOKS: Now, I know it`s a rough time. You know, she disappeared -- little -- little -- the bottom line is, where is little Haleigh right now? She doesn`t have a job, no income that I know of. Help me out there if you know of any job she`s got or how she`s earning any money. Maybe she`s down in Orlando sitting by the interstate with a little cup in her hand, you know, and a little sign, hopefully, Help find Haleigh.
Also joining us there in Florida is Teresa Neves. She is the grandmother of the missing 6-year-old, Haleigh Cummings, and father -- and mother of father Ronald. Ms. Neves, thanks for joining us again.
NEVES: Thank you for having me.
BROOKS: Look, what is going on with this family feud? And I`m not talking about the TV program.
NEVES: OK. Which family are you speaking about?
BROOKS: With the Cummings family. You know, with Ronald and Misty. What is going on down there?
NEVES: There`s a lot of tension. It`s a very tough strain on a relationship when there is something that you think maybe needs to be told and you`re not getting that information. You know, it puts a very big strain on a relationship.
BROOKS: Recently, you spoke to Nancy, and she says -- and I have to agree with her -- the facts of what`s going on and her actions, everything just doesn`t fit together.
NEVES: I agree with you. It does not fit together like it should. And we are working to cure that, I hope.
BROOKS: I want to go to Ellie Jostad, NANCY GRACE producer, joining us from New York in the control room. Ellie, when is the last time that Misty Croslin held a job and was making any kind of money?
ELLIE JOSTAD, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER: Well, that`s a good question, Mike. We don`t know of any jobs that she`s held recently. And as we explained earlier, her family is out of jobs. Ron Cummings has lost his job because he`s been looking for Haleigh. I don`t know where the money is coming from.
BROOKS: Ms. Neves, how is your son, Ronald, supporting himself, and how is Misty supporting herself now, you know, and -- and -- and her son?
NEVES: Ronald received unemployment from his time, and Misty is -- the friend that she`s staying with tends to pay for everything, so...
BROOKS: Is she independently wealthy?
NEVES: I think that maybe her husband is independently wealthy.
BROOKS: OK. So Ellie, is she staying with this woman in Orlando, or is she staying at a Disney hotel somewhere?
JOSTAD: You know, that`s not really clear, exactly where she`s staying. Now, the last time she was in Orlando, she was spotted at Universal. Apparently, she was taking in the sights there, but she did have on a, you know, Where is Haleigh, button while she was there.
BROOKS: Oh, that -- you know what? I`m glad she had on that, Where is Haleigh, button. So she`s out at Disney World on vacation from a job that she doesn`t have, and she`s just kind of hanging out just to kind of get away.
Let`s unleash the lawyers. Eleanor Odom joining us from Atlanta, prosecutor in a nearby county just outside the city, Peter Odom, defense attorney, and Alex Sanchez, noted defense attorney out of New York.
Alex, if Misty -- she`s got an attorney. If Misty is your client, what are you telling her? Are you telling her, Hey, why don`t you go on down, cool your heels down in Orlando, you know, take in the sights, enjoy yourself, while her daughter`s still missing?
ALEX SANCHEZ, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: You know, I`ll tell you the truth, I`m mystified at the criticism that you`re leveling against her. She`s 17 years old. For months, she`s been under the scrutiny of the police. What is wrong with her going down to Orlando, even if it`s for a few days to take some vacation...
BROOKS: Alex...
SANCHEZ: ... and clear her head? And maybe when she comes back, maybe she will be prepared to speak to the police...
BROOKS: But -- but -- OK, well...
SANCHEZ: ... and reveal some important information.
BROOKS: Well, ask me -- answer me this. If she is so concerned about finding her stepdaughter and she`s the last one that had -- that knows where -- that -- who was with Haleigh at the time, why isn`t she here talking to police out there looking for her stepdaughter?
SANCHEZ: Because she has answered every single question that could possibly have been leveled at her at this point. There`s no additional questions I think the police could ask her.
BROOKS: Oh!
SANCHEZ: She`s gone there. She needs to clear her head. And I think it`s in the police -- in the advantage of the investigation for her to go there and maybe speak to a friend and come back and say, You know what? I want to reveal more information.
BROOKS: OK, well...
SANCHEZ: What`s wrong with that, Mike?
BROOKS: But did she do that the last time she was down there? No.
SANCHEZ: Well, hopefully...
BROOKS: No. Did she do that? No, she didn`t.
SANCHEZ: Well, hopefully, she`ll do it now.
BROOKS: We`re going -- we`re going to -- we`re going to talk more about why she`s on vacation when we get back.
SANCHEZ: But as we go to break right now, a special get well tonight to Nancy`s mom, Elizabeth. Nancy`s not here with us tonight because she`s at the hospital with her mother. Mrs. Grace, everyone at the show wishes you a speedy recovery, and you`re in our thoughts and prayers.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What we need is for Misty to come down here and tell us the truth.
CROSLIN: I`m trying to do everything to find her, you know, answer any questions I have to, because I know I didn`t do anything to that little girl.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Misty can relieve this pressure by telling her attorney that, you know, We need to go down to the sheriff`s office and really lay out in clear terms what I was doing from 8:00 PM until 3:00 AM.
GRACE: Do you believe she left the home and left the children alone, Ronald?
CUMMINGS: Absolutely not.
GRACE: You stand very strongly behind Misty Croslin`s story. What do you make of police saying that she has the answers?
NEVES: I have to leave the investigative part of this to law enforcement because, you know, if I go with every whim and every accusation, then I`m going to be flipping back and forth in my life. And you know, what we stand -- you know, we just stand for Haleigh here. We just want Haleigh to come home. And I want them to find whoever this is. And I don`t care who it is, but we want Haleigh to come home!
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BROOKS: I`m Mike Brooks, in for Nancy Grace. OK, help us answer this question. Where is Haleigh Cummings? Where is stepmom Misty? She`s in Florida with her friend at Disney World in Orlando. She`s not at home in Satsuma. She`s not there looking for Haleigh, handing out flyers. She`s not helping Ronald look for -- her father -- her husband and Haleigh`s father look for her -- look for little Haleigh. She`s down cooling her heels because she needed to get away.
We`re taking your calls live. Straight out to Lakisha in Indiana. Lakisha, thank you for joining us.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hi, Mike. How are you doing tonight?
BROOKS: Good, thank you.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Thank you for covering for Nancy. All her viewers wish her mom to get better.
BROOKS: We all do. We were -- she`s in our -- soon as we heard this today -- you know, Nancy always says prayers work, and they do. We need your prayers, also.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I believe in God totally.
BROOKS: Thanks.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Without God, nothing`s possible.
BROOKS: Absolutely.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You answered my question when you spoke with his mom, Ms. Neves, about where Misty was at and if her and Ronald was arguing. But I was wondering about the letter that was written by someone that was sent out from the jail. I was wondering if law enforcement investigated that letter that was taken to the newspaper company.
BROOKS: Yes, Marlaina, there was this mystery letter that came about. What do we know about that letter? It was very strange. It was to "The St. Augustine Record." Can you tell us about that?
SCHIAVO: Yes. That letter, Mike, came from a party friend of Misty`s. It`s a girl who knew Misty and was partying with her right before Haleigh went missing. And what the -- the contents of the letter had something to do with the night that Haleigh went missing. Now, police have investigated it, and for the most part, nothing really came of that letter at all.
BROOKS: Ellie, there was also a mystery letter.
JOSTAD: Right.
BROOKS: What do we know -- I mean, very, very strange. It was basically -- it says -- and I`m reading right from -- right from the -- right from the note -- "Check the back of father`s mobile home. From the right end of the mobile home extending out, continue for 540 yards straight, and at that point, go north 12 yards, dig two-and-a-half to three feet. Will strike metal covering an old well. Inside, check black plastic garbage bag. Circumstances extend statewide and beyond." And it`s signed capital S-A-M. What is this?
JOSTAD: Right. Well, Mike, this letter was dropped off by a woman who walked into "The St. Augustine Record." They caught her on surveillance video. She was a blond woman wearing blue scrubs. They eventually -- after this video was aired on TV, the woman came in and identified herself, said she was just the messenger, however, that she was dropping off this letter from a man who is in his 80s. She said he`s a former FBI informant, that this guy has special information and that he was able to give her this very detailed letter.
Now, police did check it out. They did go search this area, and they didn`t find anything. But they still want to talk to this man, if he exists, and find out what he really knows.
BROOKS: Did they drill this woman? I mean, did they really talk to her, finding out what her relationship is with this guy? And you know, having been -- having been, you know, assigned with the FBI for six years, I can tell you, it`s pretty easy, if she knows his name or have an address, to find out whether or not this guy truly is an FBI informant. We call them -- they are called serialized...
JOSTAD: Right.
BROOKS: ... because when you`re informing for the FBI, you come in, you get fingerprinted, you get photographed, and they do a background check on you. So they`d know whether or not this is true.
JOSTAD: Right. Right.
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CRYSTAL SHEFFIELD, HALEIGH`S MOTHER: Her story`s changed several times. And I know my kids did love her. They told me that. And I just hope she would not have nothing to do with this.
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911 OPERATOR: We need to get her date of birth.
CROSLIN: What`s her date of birth?
CUMMINGS: (DELETED) her birthday! We need to find her!
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CROSLIN: They haven`t left me alone for six months. I`ve been the one, the main focus. They just need to move on and look for the right person.
CUMMINGS: I`m not hiding anything for anybody. And if somebody had something to do with it, let them fry.
NEVES: I believe Haleigh is alive. I have faith in God to take care of my baby girl and find her. And I don`t care who had something to do with it, those are the people who need to be put away and bring my baby girl home.
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BROOKS: I`m Mike Brooks, in for Nancy Grace. Well, little Haleigh Cummings is still gone, vanished in the middle of the night. And the one woman that I think holds the key to finding her is down in Orlando again, vacationing or getting away with a girlfriend of hers.
I want to go back out to our attorneys, Eleanor Odom, Peter Odom, Alex Sanchez. Eleanor, with her going away now for the second time -- and when she got back the first time, didn`t go with her attorney over to talk to police. You know, as a prosecutor, this doesn`t look good for her.
ELEANOR ODOM, PROSECUTOR: No, it doesn`t. And why is she going out of town? What`s the motivation? I mean, I`ve had a rough day at work, but I don`t get to go to Disney World and have a good time. But look at some interesting things. The very first thing I`d look at is how Ronald referred to her when he made that 911 call and said, What did you do with her? And then how she failed the polygraph. Her story`s wishy-washy. She`s traveled. She won`t answer questions. All those things look very suspicious.
BROOKS: Yes, you know, and also the initial police report that I`ve always said -- you know, he called -- he came home, and the whole timing of everything was -- as a former investigator, was very suspicious to me, too. And he just happened to say, Oh, yes, and my dumb "B" word wife.
Peter, I know you used to be a prosecutor, now a defense attorney. I asked Alex. I want to ask you. Would you tell your -- would you tell your client, if Misty was your client, Stay in town, cooperate with police, or go on down to Disney World, relax?
PETER ODOM, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Mike, she`s not a person of interest. She`s not a suspect. You know what I`m telling this kid?
BROOKS: Well, first of all...
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PETER ODOM: Go and live your life. Go and live your life.
BROOKS: First of all, person of interest -- you know, as far as I`m concerned, either you`re a suspect or not. She hasn`t been named. But when you fail, what, three polygraphs now, two from law enforcement, one private polygraph...
PETER ODOM: And not a shred of evidence, after all that, that she did anything wrong.
BROOKS: Oh! OK.
PETER ODOM: She`s a citizen who has the right to go anywhere she wants, and I would tell her, Misty, go and live your life and don`t...
BROOKS: She`s the one that holds the key to what happened that night, period!
PETER ODOM: And she`s told the police everything, Mike.
BROOKS: No, she hasn`t!
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RONALD CUMMINGS, FATHER OF MISSING 5-YR-OLD HALEIGH CUMMINGS: I want to get to the bottom of what happened. I don`t know if hypnosis is going to do it. They already tried to hypnotize her.
NANCY GRACE, HOST: Aren`t you of the mind that you should try anything?
R. CUMMINGS: Absolutely. If that`s what we need to do, then that`s what we can do.
MISTY CROSLIN-CUMMINGS, RONALD CUMMING`S WIFE, LAST SEEN HALEIGH: I wish they could have took me instead of her. You know, because I could have fought. You know, she`s only 5. She can`t really do anything.
CRYSTAL SHEFFIELD, MOM OF MISSING 5-YR-OLD HALEIGH CUMMINGS: Everything she says is crazy.
M. CUMMINGS: I don`t know where she is.
TERESA NEVES, GRANDMOTHER OF MISSING 5-YR-OLD, HALEIGH CUMMINGS: We would love to have a break in this case, and we really would not care who it implicates as long as it brings Haleigh back to us.
GRACE: What is her story about what happened that night?
R. CUMMINGS: The same thing that she`s telling police, or whoever, that she put Haleigh to bed, done some laundry, went to bed, and woke up to the door propped open.
UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Investigators have received well over 4,000 tips so far.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You never know when the one`s going to come in that will make the case. Our main goal is the same main goal, and that`s to find Haleigh and get her home.
NEVES: I do not think that that many people, with a $70,000 reward, are going to sit at home and not say anything. Anything that would bring Haleigh home, that`s what we want.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Was the bed made?
M. CUMMINGS: No. I was sleeping in that bed. How would the bed be made if someone`s sleeping in the bed? I wasn`t the only one sleeping in it. But how would it -- me and his son. How would the bed be made if we were in the bed sleeping?
They`ve been on me for six months. They haven`t left me alone for six months. I`ve been the one, the main focus. They just need to move on and look for the right person.
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MIKE BROOKS, GUEST HOST: I`m Mike Brooks in for Nancy Grace, and we`re taking your calls live. Right now I want to go back out to Teresa Neves, grandmother of missing Haleigh Cummings.
Miss Neves, when is the last time Ronald spoke with Misty?
NEVES: Today.
BROOKS: And what did she have to say?
NEVES: About what?
BROOKS: About what`s going on with her, when she`s coming back, if she`s going to talk to police when she comes back.
NEVES: She has not made any arrangements to talk to police as far as I know. I know that we have encouraged her to do so, Ronald has encouraged her to do so, and right now I don`t know what her return plans are.
BROOKS: No -- so right now what you`re saying is she`s not -- there`s no plans for her to come back to Satsuma at all right now?
NEVES: Well, no, I`m not saying that. I mean.
BROOKS: OK.
NEVES: She`s not gone forever, I`m sure.
BROOKS: So when is she coming back? But, you know, I mean...
NEVES: No, I can`t.
BROOKS: Ronald didn`t talk to her to say, hey, you know, when are you coming back to go to talk to police?
NEVES: Ronald may have said that. I cannot tell you. I do not live with Ronald or Misty. I do know that when she left -- you know, I mean, before she left we have all encouraged her.
BROOKS: Yes.
NEVES: . to speak with the police. So.
BROOKS: And I know, you know, the main thing here that we want, Miss Neves, and please understand this, is to get little Haleigh back alive.
NEVES: Absolutely.
BROOKS: That`s the bottom line here. That`s why we at the NANCY GRACE SHOW are here talking about this all the time, because we want to find out where this little girl is and who`s responsible for taking her. That`s the bottom line here. I want to go out to.
NEVES: I appreciate it.
BROOKS: Absolutely, Miss Neves. Thank you. I want to go out to noted medical examiner, Dr. Joshua Perper, author of "When to Call the Doctor," chief medical examiner, Broward County.
Dr. Perper, great to see you again.
DR. JOSHUA PERPER, MEDICAL EXAMINER, AUTHOR OF "WHEN TO CALL THE DOCTOR": Thank you.
BROOKS: We know that Haleigh has Turner syndrome and she needs medication. Without her getting the proper medical care, you know, I hate to say this, how long can she survive?
PERPER: Well, it depends how severe is her condition, because her syndrome has a whole range. Her syndrome is due to a genetic disorder in which instead of having xx sex chromosome she`s missing one sex chromosome, one X. So she`s XO. She has certain physical abnormality and has a certain degree of mental abnormality, and some of those children do not need any life-saving medication. So it depends exactly what stage of clinical impairment that she is.
BROOKS: I want to go back out to Marlaina Schiavo, our NANCY GRACE producer there on the scene in Florida.
Marlaina, as law enforcement -- you know, as part of this task force, are they on a regular basis going to hospitals, emergency rooms to take a look to see if maybe someone possibly has visited there with a little child that fits the description of Haleigh with -- you know, exhibiting signs and symptoms of Turner syndrome possibly?
MARLAINA SCHIAVO, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER, COVERING STORY: Well, Mike, the investigators are doing everything possible to find little Haleigh. So, I mean, you know, you can imagine that they`re going through every -- all lengths to find this little girl.
BROOKS: Yes.
SCHIAVO: I mean, they follow up on every single possible tip. And they have checked in with every possible person they can talk to to find her.
BROOKS: Yes. I want to go back out to the lines. Melanie from Rhode Island, thanks for joining us. Do you have a question or comment?
MELANIE, CALLER FROM RHODE ISLAND: Yes, I have a question. When Casey Anthony was lying to the cops, they arrested her for lying. Now, I know they`re saying Misty is being -- she`s -- everything`s not measuring up, a nice way for saying she`s lying. They can`t arrest her for lying?
BROOKS: Well, to arrest someone you need probable cause, a set of facts and circumstances that would lead a reasonable and prudent officer to believe that a crime has been committed, is being committed, or is about to be committed.
And with that case they had evidence and they -- I mean, she took the cops around and basically, you know what, I`m not telling the truth. And - - but in this case I don`t think they have enough probable cause to charge her with lying yet. But I still think that she has the key and knows what happened that night. But time will tell.
I want to go out to Dr. Jeff Gardere, psychologist and author of "Love Prescription." Jeff, thanks for joining us.
JEFF GARDERE, PSYCHOLOGIST, AUTHOR OF "LOVE PRESCRIPTION": Hi.
BROOKS: You know, everybody has different coping mechanisms. Is -- you know, is this -- could it be a coping mechanism for Misty to just take off and just try to get it out of her mind in dealing with her stress?
GARDERE: I think that`s an excellent point and a great question. This is a young woman who is exhibiting self-defense mechanisms that are certainly highly inappropriate.
Haleigh is missing, maybe dead, God forbid. She had a very close relationship, misty did, with Haleigh. So this is not the right thing for her to be doing. I think it`s simply a case of if you can`t stand the heat get out of the kitchen. She`s close to a nervous breakdown.
Ronald`s all over her case. The media`s all over her case. The NANCY GRACE SHOW is really pushing her to get the truth. And I think she`s just skipped town because she can`t stand the pressure.
BROOKS: You know, that`s a good possibility. But you know, I still say she should be here with Ronald, trying to find Haleigh. I don`t care if it`s out there passing out flyers. Go down to Orlando, pass out flyers down there. But to be seen wandering around Universal, having a good time, you know what? It just doesn`t look right.
Back out to the lines, Janet from Alabama.
JANET, CALLER FROM ALABAMA: Yes, Mike. I have a question about the pond that was drained. Could it be deep enough that if her body was in a black bag that it could have sunk under the mud and so forth that was in there?
BROOKS: That`s a good question because, you know, a lot of ponds have a lot of silt at the bottom.
Marlaina, you`re down there. This pond that they drained, did they find anything?
SCHIAVO: Unfortunately -- well, actually, fortunately, Mike, they did not find anything. You know, I mean, Teresa Neves sitting here with me right now, I mean, she wants them to be looking for a live Haleigh. But yes, this pond was drained and there is no -- there was no signs of anything like.
BROOKS: Quickly, Ellie, how did they -- what led them to that pond to begin with?
ELLIE JOSTAD, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER, COVERING STORY: Well, Mike, there`s a couple of things that led them to that pond. First, we know that they were searching bodies of water around the area where Haleigh went missing.
Also, there was this letter that Marlaina mentioned earlier, that suggested the body could have been disposed of in a pond. Now, police won`t say one thing led to another. They say they were planning to drain that pond anyway.
BROOKS: Well, you know, it`s unfortunate that they didn`t find anything, but I`m glad that they could at least check that off their list of somewhere that Haleigh is not.
To tonight`s "Safety Tip." The last person you want coming in through your front door is a burglar. Here`s what you can do to stop them.
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R. CUMMINGS: I just got home from work. My 5-year-old daughter is gone. I need somebody to be here now. I`m telling you.
UNIDENTIFIED 911 OPERATOR: Listen to me. Listen to me. We`ve got two officers.
R. CUMMINGS: If I find whoever has my daughter before y`all do, I`m killing them. I don`t care. I`m spending the rest of my life in prison. I`m telling you. You can put it on recording. I don`t care.
UNIDENTIFIED 911 OPERATOR: OK. It`s OK, sir. We`ve got them on the way. OK. Can you give me any -- what kind of description of the pajamas that she was wearing?
R. CUMMINGS: I don`t (EXPLETIVE DELETED) know. I was at work.
UNIDENTIFIED 911 OPERATOR: Your back door was wide open. What are you talking about a brick?
M. CUMMINGS: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED 911 OPERATOR: What is the brick?
M. CUMMINGS: It`s on the back door, on the stairs. We have like a walkway.
UNIDENTIFIED 911 OPERATOR: Uh-huh. And there was a brick laying there?
M. CUMMINGS: Yes. It`s still there.
UNIDENTIFIED 911 OPERATOR: Was your back door locked, do you know?
M. CUMMINGS: Yes. The back door always stays locked.
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BROOKS: I`m Mike Brooks in for Nancy Grace. What you are listening to is the 911 call from Haleigh`s father, Ronald, the night that he got home and found that his daughter had vanished from her bed in the middle of the night.
I want to go back out to our attorneys, Eleanor Odom, Peter Odom, and Alex Sanchez.
All right, Alex. You and I talked. You don`t think -- you think that she can go and does what she wants to do. But when she comes back, if she was your client, are you telling her to go to police and -- because come on, you`ve got to agree with me, Alex, she knows more than what she`s telling.
ALEX SANCHEZ, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: I`m interested, and I`m sure she`s interested, in seeing that child returned. So the first thing I would do is have her come to my office. We would sit down, have a full discussion. And I would certainly encourage her to speak to the police and provide any information which would be helpful in the return of this child.
BROOKS: Peter. Yes or no? Does she know more than what she`s telling? Yes or no?
PETER ODOM, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: No. Absolutely not.
BROOKS: OK, Eleanor.
ODOM: She`s told the police repeatedly.
BROOKS: Thank you. That`s no. Eleanor?
ELEANOR DIXON, PROSECUTOR: Well, I think of course she should talk. Of course, I`m the prosecutor. I`m looking at a completely different light from these two defense attorneys. But her actions speak louder than words, Mike. Look at what she`s doing and what she`s not doing, and that`s talking to the police.
BROOKS: Her inactions speak louder than words.
DIXON: Exactly.
BROOKS: Because -- you know, listen to law enforcement. I`m a former investigator. And I agree with them, she knows more than what she`s saying.
Back out to the lines, Lisa from Louisiana. Thanks for joining us.
LISA, CALLER FROM LOUISIANA: Yes. I have wondered -- I know Ronald has supported Misty early on, saying that he believed that she was being truthful. Is that still his opinion now in light of the new things that have become -- surfaced in the last week?
BROOKS: Right. Well, let`s ask Ronald`s mother, Teresa Neves, joining us there in Florida. Is he still supporting Misty`s claim that she doesn`t know anything?
NEVES: Ronald is doing the best that he can to encourage Misty to get with law enforcement and tell them anything that she may have forgotten, may have left out. Ronald is -- he is trying to do both. You know? He wants to support his wife, but he wants Haleigh home more than anything. And he is going to do whatever it takes to get her home and get those answers.
BROOKS: And we want to see little Haleigh come home. Thank you, Miss Neves.
We`re going to switch gears now. We`re going to go to Overland Park, Kansas where a beautiful 18-year-old co-ed has been missing for almost a week. Take a listen to this.
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UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: The urgent search for a beautiful 18-year-old Kansas girl is on after she`s disappeared. How could it happen somewhere like Kansas? But tonight, it has. Cops on the look out for Keighley Ann Alyea, last seen at her own home.
UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: At the Louisburg Square Apartments by 87th and Grant that`s where we are told she was last seen by a girlfriend who is staying with her but it`s here at 62nd and Foster where police recovered the missing teen`s Mazda although one neighbor tells us he first spotted it parked by a dumpster the day she went missing.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It was just parked there with the windows down and it had actually been there for a few days so I just wondered because it had been raining.
UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: After days of searching law enforcement finally tracks down Keighley`s green Mazda. Keighley, nowhere to be found.
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BROOKS: I`m Mike Brooks in for Nancy Grace. A beautiful 18-year-old co-ed just seems to vanish into thin air in Overland Park, Kansas. What happened to this woman?
I want to go straight out to Marcus Moore, reporter from CNN affiliate KMBC, joining us by phone there at the Overland Park Police Department.
Marcus, what`s the latest from Overland Park?
MARCUS MOORE, REPORTER, CNN AFFILIATE KMBC, OUTSIDE POLICE STATION (via phone): Mike, the latest information we have is that they are still searching 18-year-old Keighley, who was last seen Tuesday night or early Wednesday morning. And we know that over the weekend on Sunday around 6:00 they found her car.
That car was impounded as they started looking for -- or they`re going to look for some evidence. I know for some time they didn`t go into that car because they were waiting on a search warrant. And so the question for us tonight is what, if anything, they found inside this car is going to point them in the direction of where Keighley may be or what may have happened to her.
BROOKS: Marcus, have they said whether or not -- or any witnesses who saw this vehicle parked there, have they said whether or not there was any visible evidence, possibly a sign of a struggle? What do we know?
MOORE: We know very little, Mike, about the car. And I can tell you that one of the witnesses we spoke to earlier today said that he saw the car parked there and that the windows appeared to be down. That was the condition the car was in when the police found it, we don`t know.
But I can tell you that the car was, though, involved -- did have some front end damage done to it which was related to an incident that happened earlier in the week, where her car was damaged. Now that`s all we know.
We don`t know what the circumstances were surrounding that or exactly how it got damaged, but we do know from police and family members that there was some damage done to that car, that there was a police report filed that would have been on Monday of this week.
How it plays into all of this, we don`t know. We do know, Mike, that they have talked to a number of friends and acquaintances, including a pair of ex-boyfriends, and at this point police have not named any suspects. But they have questioned a number of people, including one man who they later released. And -- so that`s where we are with this right now.
We know that police are looking for this girl who they believe is missing and in danger. They haven`t said whether or not they believe foul play may -- may have played a role in this, but they are concerned, Mike, that they haven`t heard from her, she hasn`t called.
BROOKS: Right. And they believe.
MOORE: And no message from her Facebook.
BROOKS: Right. And she believed -- and they believe that because of the circumstances that she could be in danger.
I just want to let everyone know one of our guests tonight, who is not going to be able to join us now was Pat Hayes. He is the father of Keighley. And he and his wife, apparently, have been called to the police station. For what, we don`t know. But we hope to find out very, very soon why they were called to the police station.
I want to go out to Ellie Jostad, NANCY GRACE producer. Ellie, with the police report. I was looking at this police report earlier about this accident that Marcus was just talking about. It`s a little strange here. Help me understand what exactly happened.
JOSTAD: Right, Mike. Well, we talked to Pat Hayes, Keighley`s father, and the way he describes it is that Keighley had taken in a friend of hers. A friend who was having some sort of ongoing dispute with her brother. The friend and her own brother. And incidentally the brother happens to be Keighley`s ex-boyfriend.
BROOKS: Oh boy.
JOSTAD: Now the friend and the brother got into a fight that night. They were arguing. It apparently became physical, according to Keighley`s father. Keighley was not directly involved but when the brother was leaving the scene, he apparently hit Keighley`s car damaging it. That`s why she`s listed as a victim on that police report.
BROOKS: Well, more about this when we come back, but as we go to break, a special get well tonight to Nancy`s mom, Elizabeth. Nancy is not here with us tonight because she`s at the hospital with her mother.
Mrs. Grace, everyone here at the show wishes you a speedy recovery and you will be in our thoughts and.
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PAT HAYES, KEIGHLEY`S FATHER: I`ve been through a lot of things in my life and I can honestly say I`ve never -- I`ve never felt this way before. It`s just like there`s a huge part of me that`s missing and it won`t be right until I find it.
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BROOKS: I`m Mike Brooks in for Nancy Grace.
So what happened to Keighley Alyea? 18-year-old, beautiful co-ed, just seems to have vanished. But she was last seen in the wee hours of early Wednesday morning but her car was discovered on Sunday and some witnesses say it had been there for a while.
Now, I can tell you, as a former member of the FBI`s evidence response team, there`s a lot of evidence, Dr. Perper, that they can glean from that vehicle. They should be able to tell if there`s any kind of her DNA, anyone else`s DNA, fingerprints, hairs, fibers. Do you agree?
PERPER: Absolutely. They are going to look for evidence of any stranger who was in the car and was not supposed to drive the car. They`re going to look for evidence of blood. They`re going to look for any kind of damage to the inside of the car which may point out some kind of a struggle. So they look at this very carefully whether they are going to find something, that`s another question.
BROOKS: Yes, I mean -- there`s a plethora of things you can get from inside that vehicle. I mean what -- I mean if I was the tech working that scene, I would be vacuuming that with a special forensic vacuum cleaner and -- to find anything that we could in there.
I want to point out, this police report, they said that the cause of the accident was battery and criminal damage. But we`ll hear more of what happened to Keighley Alyea.
But tonight, let`s stop to remember Army Sergeant Titus Reynolds, 23 of Columbus, Ohio. Killed in Afghanistan. A talented musician who played electric guitar and bass at church. Loved God, his country and playing video games.
Was one month away from celebrating his first wedding anniversary with his wife, Nikki. Also leaves behind grieving parents, Rod and Elizabeth, two brothers and sisters.
Titus Reynolds, an American hero.
Thank you to all our guests and our biggest thanks to you for inviting us into your home. See you tomorrow night 8:00 p.m. sharp Eastern. Until then, stay safe.
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