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Nancy Grace
"Growing Pains" Actor`s Body Found in Vancouver Park
Aired February 25, 2010 - 20:00 ET
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NANCY GRACE, HOST: Breaking news tonight. A star of the TV megahit sitcom "Growing Pains" goes missing Valentine`s Day. As we go to air, a body discovered in a local park. Is it the missing TV star? We are waiting to take you live to the police presser.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We have breaking news in the search for former "Growing Pains" actor Andrew Koenig. Police say a body has been found in a park. It may be him.
WALTER KOENIG, FATHER: Try to be aware of the fact that we have a son, Andrew Koenig, who is presently missing, who`s state of emotional health may not be very good.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You`ll remember him as Boner Stabone in "Growing Pains." Remember that show? His father was on "Star Trek," of course. Koenig`s parents say he sent them a letter just before he disappeared that he had -- that had a despondent tone.
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GRACE: And breaking news tonight, Salinas, California. A gorgeous 23-year-old bride -- talented, creative, beautiful -- vanishes the night after Dad`s birthday party, never seen again, her Chevy Malibu abandoned 90 miles to the north. The new groom lays out of the search for his wife, then completely avoids the bride`s family.
Just hours after we first covered the 23-year-old missing bride, police close in on the groom miles away, heading south. In the car, another woman, now named as a person of interest. The groom, Jesse Crow, behind bars tonight, $3 million bond. The charge, murder one. The bride`s body, missing.
Bombshell tonight. The groom shows up in court just hours ago, his main concern, no, not the whereabouts of his bride`s missing body. New groom Jesse Crow`s worried about his wardrobe -- that`s right, what to wear to court. But even without the bride`s body, police say they`ve got a case file over two inches thick that points to one thing and one thing only, the bride was murdered.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Breaking news. The husband of newlywed Ryann Crow, Jesse Crow, has been charged and arraigned for allegedly murdering his wife.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: After numerous searches, interviews and the collection and analysis of a considerable body of evidence over the past few weeks, we are satisfied there is probable cause to believe that Jesse John Crow killed his wife, Ryann.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Crow pleading not guilty in court, wearing an orange and white striped jail jumpsuit. Attorneys ask the judge for cameras to shoot Crow from the neck up at the arraignment.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Taking no chances, already concerned that too much about the investigation had surfaced in public, and fearing potential jurors would get the wrong idea, the judge ruled no video of Jesse Crow in his jail jumpsuit be broadcast in the media.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The DA says there`s a tremendous amount of circumstantial evidence against Crow.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Solid forensic evidence has been collected and analyzed by expert criminalists at the California Department of Justice Bureau of Forensic Services, which supports our conclusion.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Salinas police even indicating they have blood and DNA evidence supporting their theory Crow allegedly killed his beautiful new bride.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Jesse, if you know anything, you know, just let law enforcement know.
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GRACE: Good evening. I`m Nancy Grace. I want to thank you for being with us. Breaking news tonight. A star of the TV megahit sitcom "Growing Pains" goes missing Valentine`s Day. As we go to air, a body discovered in a local park. Is it the missing TV star? We are waiting to take you live to a police presser. There you see it set up, as we speak.
I want to go straight out to Kim Serafin, senior editor, "In Touch Weekly." What can you tell me about Andrew Koenig, always known on TV as Boner?
KIM SERAFIN, "IN TOUCH WEEKLY" (via telephone): Of course. I mean, that`s how people remember him. That`s how people know him, as Kirk Cameron`s best friend on "Growing Pains." And of course, we`ve learned a lot more about his life over this period of time, now that he`s been missing.
You know, look, Hollywood is a tough place and a lot of people get caught up in the turmoil of it. It`s a tough place where one day you have a job and one day you don`t, and now we`re hearing reports of depression that he might have had. We`re hearing reports from his neighbors that he told people he was going away, going on vacation, that he put his stuff up for sale...
GRACE: Hold on. Hold on. I think that I`m losing -- hold on. I think that my satellite is going down. With me, Kim Serafin, senior editor "In Touch Weekly." Hold on, Liz. Get that satellite up.
Everyone, we are waiting to take you live to a police presser. There you see them to your right.
To Marlaina Schiavo, our producer. What can you tell me about the discovery of the body?
MARLAINA SCHIAVO, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER (via telephone): Well, they say approximately this noon, this afternoon, in Vancouver in a park that he liked to frequent, they found his body. Now, they haven`t said much about the condition of the body or anything like that. We`re waiting to hear that in this press conference, Nancy. But we know that Andrew Koenig was suffering from depression. People have not -- his family has not heard from him. His friends have not heard from him. And so this discovery was quite shocking and sad for all of them today.
GRACE: Out to the lines. Judy, California. Hi, Judy.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hi, Nancy. How are you?
GRACE: I`m good, dear.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Nancy, I adore you! I`ve never missed a show. In fact, I got a traffic ticket one night trying to rush home to get to your program. And I was...
GRACE: Judy...
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: ... happy to pay it!
GRACE: ... thank you. Thank you.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You are beautiful. And oh! Your children! You`re going to have so much fun. I`m a parent. You are going to have so much fun with your kids. I can`t wait!
GRACE: Judy, I already am. And when I look at this guy, so in the prime of his life...
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Oh! Isn`t it so sad?
GRACE: ... everything in front of him...
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It is so sad.
GRACE: ... one of the stars of a TV megahit, "Growing Pains." So many people grew up watching this show.
Everybody, we are going live to the police presser.
CONSTABLE JANA MCGUINNESS, VANCOUVER POLICE DEPT.: Andrew was found today. We didn`t want to inconvenience his parents, Walter and Judith, any more than they needed to be today. I`m going to -- I`ll ask Walter and Judith to speak to you first, and then I`ll give you an investigative recap afterwards. They`ll be making a statement, and then they`ll be leaving directly afterwards. There won`t be an opportunity for questions. As you can appreciate, this is a very difficult time.
OK, we`ll just get going, and I`ll just ask you two to join together here.
JUDITH KOENIG, MOTHER: Thank you, dear.
MCGUINNESS: Pardon? Yes, if you can just...
WALTER KOENIG: Andrew has -- had some very -- very close friends in Vancouver. As I`ve said before, he really felt this was home. And 10 of them decided today to do yet another sweep of Stanley Park, invited me to join them. And we broke up into teams. We left about 9:15. And about two hours later -- I was with -- in a team with Kishin (ph) and Maggie (ph), and we were looking for some clue. And Kishin phoned us, saying he`d found Andrew`s body. Maggie went to get Judy. She`s in -- her leg and back is in pretty bad shape and she can`t walk too far. And I went to the site.
My son took his own life. The only other thing that I want to say is -- we`ve already said, you know, what a great guy he was and good human being. And he was obviously in a lot of pain. So the only other thing I want to say is -- because I`ve received an awful lot of e-mails, hundreds of e-mails from people who said they were depressed or had -- had considered -- contemplated the same course of action, or from families who said they had somebody in their family who showed signs of this kind of behavior or had, in fact, lost members of their families because of this.
So the only -- the only thing I want to say is -- is if you`re one of those people who really feel that you can`t handle it anymore -- you know, if you can learn anything from this, it`s that there are people out there who really care. You may not think so and it may not -- ultimately, it may not be enough, but there are people who really, really care. And before you take that final -- make that final decision, check it out again. Talk to somebody.
And for those families who have members who they fear are susceptible to this kind of behalf behavior, don`t ignore it. Don`t rationalize it. Extend a hand.
JUDITH KOENIG: For both the families and people who are suffering from depression, just realize -- they don`t realize that there is help and they need help. And I would ask you all to familiarize yourselves with signs that you may, you know, as Walter just said, rationalize away. Don`t rationalize away anything. Connect with each other if there`s something that`s bothering you because there is love up there.
All the people who -- from the police to his friends up here, have shown signs of love, which in his pain he didn`t realize was available to him. And that`s the hardest part. That`s the hardest part. He was much loved and he had much to contribute in this world. And -- and we just want to leave you with that message. Please, this is our -- this is the only statement and comment we are making, and please respect our privacy. Thank you all very much.
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GRACE: The star of the TV megahit "Growing Pains" found dead. We`re going live to the police presser.
MCGUINNESS: Andrew`s body was discovered in the park by family and friends who had initiated their own private search. There`s no question this would have been a devastating discovery for everyone involved. And again, we extend our sympathies to the family and friends.
Our investigation is continuing, although we`ve turned now -- the coroner -- the coroner`s service -- sorry. Let me start that over. Our investigation is continuing, but the British Columbia coroner`s service will also take it from here. We`re not going to speak about cause of death. There`s sensitivities around this investigation and respect for the family that we must acknowledge, and we won`t release any further details about cause of death.
Are there any questions I can take at this time?
QUESTION: Is foul play suspected?
MCGUINNESS: No. Sorry. No, foul play is not suspected in this case.
QUESTION: When do you think (INAUDIBLE) by?
MCGUINNESS: Sensitivities around the time of Andrew`s death and cause of death, and we won`t disclose further details on that.
QUESTION: The parents said...
MCGUINNESS: Yes, in the back. Sorry.
QUESTION: (INAUDIBLE) a suicide. (INAUDIBLE).
MCGUINNESS: I`ll let Mr. Koenig`s words speak for himself. Thank you.
QUESTION: Do you have any reason to suggest that (INAUDIBLE).
MCGUINNESS: Excuse me. We have no reason to believe that foul play was involved here at all. Is there a new question? Sir?
QUESTION: (INAUDIBLE)
MCGUINNESS: Right. The search -- both the private search and our search covered a vast area of the park. You know, Andrew was found off of a path -- let me just set the scene for you a little bit. Bridle Path is the path within Stanley Park where he was found nearby. He was in a densely wooded area. This is a path where, if you`ve just stepped even a few feet off of it, you`d be in a heavily treed area with some marshland nearby. He was unseen from the path. Sir, you had a question over here?
QUESTION: Yes. (INAUDIBLE) found at all.
MCGUINNESS: No. Nothing to do with weapons. No. Thanks.
QUESTION: (INAUDIBLE)
MCGUINNESS: Again, around the cause of death -- I`m not going to belabor this. We really aren`t going to release details. Part of this investigation is now in the hands of the coroner`s service, so we certainly wouldn`t want to compromise their investigation at all. Anything new?
QUESTION: (INAUDIBLE) area that had been searched before?
MCGUINNESS: The search teams that combed through the park on the 23rd did cover (ph) off this area. As you can imagine, there`s -- at times, we do receive information that`s helpful, that allows us to narrow a search and focus in one area. We didn`t have anything particular suggesting that Andrew might be in the park. The search teams did their very best to locate him but did not find evidence of him on that day.
QUESTION: The friends who were searching over there, did they just get lucky, or did they have a reason to go and search that particular area?
MCGUINNESS: Again, we`ve answered that question, I think, already. But the information that friends and family have would had been brought forward to police. We, of course, have had extremely close contact with the family over the last few days and I`ve been providing them updates. And we`ve been receiving excellent cooperation from friends and family in our efforts to locate Andrew.
QUESTION: Were they acting on any information that (INAUDIBLE) relate to you or anybody else (INAUDIBLE)
MCGUINNESS: Any case -- or investigative details that we have uncovered or avenues we`ve followed really aren`t something we would disclose in any detail.
QUESTION: (INAUDIBLE)
MCGUINNESS: That`s up for the coroner`s service to speak to.
QUESTION: (INAUDIBLE.
MCGUINNESS: Again, there were family and friends present, and we know that Mr. Koenig was close by when his son`s body was discovered, yes.
QUESTION: (INAUDIBLE)
MCGUINNESS: No. I don`t want to speak for Mr. Koenig. Yes. Sorry. Is anything new? Anything else?
QUESTION: How many officers were involved (INAUDIBLE)
MCGUINNESS: When we did the search initially on the 23rd, there were 30 members searching the park. The search teams comprised of the three agencies and the Vancouver police. Investigatively, we`ve had a team of investigators working on this investigation since the 18th, when he was reported missing to the Vancouver police.
QUESTION: (INAUDIBLE) the public generally know? (INAUDIBLE)
MCGUINNESS: Certainly. Stanley Park is a vast park, over a thousand acres. We understand it`s one of the largest urban parks in North America. The park -- or the pathway that`s known as Bridle Path is one of 150 miles worth of trails within this park. It`s a wide open, popular trail often used by joggers and walkers, and again, densely wooded on both sides.
QUESTION: (INAUDIBLE) police (INAUDIBLE)
MCGUINNESS: Our members responded after receiving a call from those on scene, friends and family, who had discovered Andrew.
QUESTION: I`m sorry. How far off of the trail was he found?
MCGUINNESS: He was found approximately a kilometer from here to the west. And I`m not sure of the exact distance from the trail. I`ve heard reports in the area of 30, 40 meters.
QUESTION: (INAUDIBLE)
MCGUINNESS: Typically, an investigation of this nature, we wouldn`t be talking publicly on. So you can appreciate, out of respect for the family, we`re not going to go into details of what they knew or didn`t know or information that may have come to light prior to this tragic discovery today. OK, I think that`s it.
QUESTION: (INAUDIBLE) in the search party that found (INAUDIBLE)
MCGUINNESS: I`m not aware of that number. Sorry. Thanks, everyone. I appreciate your time. I can take some side questions on anything outside of this after we wrap up here. OK?
GRACE: We are live at the police presser. The star -- a star of the megahit TV sitcom "Growing Pains" found dead in a local park. We are live there on the scene and taking your calls.
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WALTER KOENIG: Andrew has -- had some very, very close friends in Vancouver. As I`ve said before, he really felt this was home. And 10 of them decided today to do yet another sweep of Stanley Park, invited me to join them. And we broke up into teams. We left about 9:15. And about two hours later -- I was with -- in a team of Kishin and Maggie, and we were looking for some clue. And Kishin phoned us, saying that he`d found Andrew`s body.
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WALTER KOENIG: Andrew has -- had some very, very close friends in Vancouver. As I`ve said before, he really felt this was home. And 10 of them decided today to do yet another sweep of Stanley Park, invited me to join them. And we broke up into teams. We left about 9:15. And about two hours later -- I was with -- in a team of Kishin and Maggie, and we were looking for some clue. And Kishin phoned us, saying that he`d found...
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GRACE: Breaking news. The body of the star -- one of the stars of the megahit TV sitcom "Growing Pains" has been positively identified in a local park.
Straight out to Alexis Tereszcuk with Radaronline.com. Alexis, how did they finally manage to find the body? They have searched this park -- it`s a huge park -- many times.
ALEXIS TERESZCUK, RADARONLINE.COM: Nancy, a group of Andrew`s friends got together and they planned their own search. I know that they`ve been working very closely with the police, but they conducted their own search of Stanley Park, which is huge. And unfortunately, one of the friends found Andrew. And his father was on the search, so they called him and he went over to that. They had been doing that on their own because they were all so very concerned about him.
GRACE: To Jane Velez-Mitchell, a dear friend of the star. Jane, thank you for being with us. Jane, this guy had an incredible career.
JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL, HOST, "ISSUES": He did. He was incredibly talented. I worked with him. Not just as an actor, but he was a director, he was a photographer, he was an editor. He really had so many skills and talents, a wonderful guy, incredibly ethical, incredibly compassionate, a gentleman...
GRACE: And as of right now, Jane, we still don`t know cause of death, correct?
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, we heard what the dad said, but we don`t know how it happened.
GRACE: But we don`t know, gunshot, pills?
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Right.
GRACE: No idea?
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, I think I heard somebody at the news conference saying something like, No guns. But I think we`ll have to wait for the coroner.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Andrew has -- had some very -- very close friends in Vancouver. As I`ve said before, he really felt this was home. And 10 of them decided today to do yet another sweep of Stanley Park. Invited me to join them. And we broke up into teams. Now we left about 9:15. And about two hours later, I was within the team with --
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GRACE: One of the stars of mega hit TV series "Growing Pains`" body has just been positively identified. There you see him, the co-star, along with Kirk Cameron.
We are taking your calls live. Straight out -- back out to Judy in California. Judy, I don`t believe I got your question.
JUDY, CALLER FROM CALIFORNIA: Hey, Nancy. You know I`ve suffered with depression for way over 20 years and been on medication. And this is exactly why I never committed suicide because I did not want my family going through this. It`s so heartbreaking and my sympathies go out to his family so much.
Was he on medication or seeing a doctor for his depression?
GRACE: Let`s find out. Out to Kim Serafin, senior editor "In-Touch Weekly." As of right now, everyone, we do not know the cause of death. We don`t know whether a weapon was involved, whether it was poisoning by pill. We don`t have any idea yet.
All we know is that the body of this TV star has been positively identified as that of Andrew Koenig.
What about it, Kim Serafin? What do we know?
KIM SERAFIN, SENIOR EDITOR, IN TOUCH WEEKLY: Yes, exactly. And you know, his father, I guess, had made some comments that he`d stopped taking medication about a year ago.
But, you know, it`s so sad. You just look at the outpouring of support from a lot of his friends and colleagues, even people like Alyssa Milano who had been on at 80`s sitcom, a very popular `80s sitcom. People like Alyssa Milano --
GRACE: Right.
SERAFIN: -- Kevin Smith -- again a lot of people twittering about it, so beloved, I think so many people remember him from "Growing Pains." I remember watching him growing up. He was such a huge part of that sitcom. And it`s so, so sad.
GRACE: Yes, so many people in America felt like they grew up along with him. Out to the lines, Gina, Georgia. Hi, Gina.
GINA, CALLER FROM GEORGIA: Hi, Nancy.
GRACE: Hi, dear.
GINA: Thank you for taking my call. First of all, I want to say I appreciate your dedication to what you do.
GRACE: Thank you.
GINA: You`re a huge child advocate, which I am, too. And you do much for many. This case saddens my heart for this family. And this is -- what I am fixing to say sounds hard but we have a case here (INAUDIBLE) down here in Savannah, Georgia, which you`ve got it on your Web site.
He`s been missing since January 31st. And that momma, the not knowing is the hardest. This father on this case, I know that he`s hurting because his child has been found dead but I know that he`s relieved in a way to know -- the not-knowing where your child is or what --
GRACE: Gina, you`re absolutely correct. The uncertainty, the wondering in the middle of the night, what has happened? What was your question, dear?
GINA: My question is -- for example, in this case, if we brought this case, who all do you turn to for support for the families of these --
GRACE: That is an excellent question. To Dr. Bethany Marshall, psychoanalyst and author of "Dealbreakers." When families are in grief like this, what can they do?
BETHANY MARSHALL, PSYCHOANALYST, AUTHOR OF "DEALBREAKERS": They can call their pastor. They can call their priest, their local rabbi. There are grief centers in almost every community.
Every hospital has a grief support group. And what they`ll learn in that group is that over 90 percent of people who successfully complete a suicide do suffer from depression or some other psychiatric illness.
GRACE: Right.
MARSHALL: Or a recurring substance abuse disorder. And even though they have friends and family who support them they still feel hopeless.
GRACE: Out to the lines, hi, Erica. What`s your question.
ERICA, CALLER: Hi, Nancy, I just want to say I love your show. I was calling because they said he went to Vancouver to be with some friends and everything. Did they know or realize that something was wrong in his demeanor to --
GRACE: Excellent question. To Alexis Tereszcuk, Radaronline.com. Did anyone have a warning signal?
ALEXIS TERESZCUK, REPORTER, RADAROLINE.COM: There were a couple of warning signals. He actually gave up his apartment. He gave his 30-day notice to his landlord in January and he told a neighbor that he was go on vacation, which didn`t really jibe with him giving his notice.
But he also started giving away some of his personal belonging to his very close friends. We spoke with friends who gave him -- who actually had spoken with him and he gave him some of his belongings, and at the time they didn`t seem to be that worried about it, but once he disappeared, they realized that that was a very ominous sign.
GRACE: Unleash the lawyers. Joining us tonight, felony prosecutor out of Atlanta, Eleanor Odom. With us defense attorney, Renee Rockwell, Atlanta. And along with us, defense attorney Peter Odom.
Out to you, Eleanor, if the friends had had clear warning signals that this was about to occur, is there any way they can be held legally liable?
ELEANOR ODOM, PROSECUTOR: Not under the laws, Nancy. I mean maybe some moral obligation but a lot of times you`ve seen this happen and friends just don`t know what to do and they`re not necessarily trained in that area to do something.
GRACE: Renee?
RENEE ROCKWELL, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: I`m going to agree with Eleanor, Nancy. The only thing they`re facing now is possible guilt. Should of, would of, could of, could I have done anything to stop it and that`s just not a fair thing for them to put on their selves.
GRACE: Peter?
PETER ODOM, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Yes, Nancy, he showed things that we -- in retrospect look at and say, yes, it looked like he was going to commit suicide but you know, there was really no way of knowing for sure in advance.
GRACE: Everyone, the breaking news is in one of the stars off of mega hit TV series "Growing Pains," body has just been positively identified in a local park. At this hour we are still waiting on an official cause of death.
We`ll take you there live as soon as that presser starts back up again or if we get any information.
In the meantime, we are taking your live to the mystery surrounding a missing and we believe murdered bride.
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UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Is a picture worth a thousand words? The defense of Jesse John Crow, the man accused of murdering his wife Ryann Crow, thinks so.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She didn`t have an enemy in the world. She was just -- she is a beautiful, beautiful person inside and out.
UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Crow`s attorneys, asking a judge to allow their client to wear street clothes to every hearing, even before a jury is in the courtroom. Arguing that, seeing Crow in an orange and white-striped jumpsuit will prejudice potential jurors.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The more often the media image is published of a person wearing restraints and jailed jumpsuit --
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GRACE: The bride`s body is still missing, despite police effort by land, by water, by air to locate her. This beautiful, young girl -- there you see her to the left of your camera -- Ryann Crow, just 23 years old, believed to have been murdered. And today we learn her husband shows up in court and his big concern, his wardrobe.
That`s right, what to wear? What to wear? What to wear to court?
Out to Mark Carbonaro, program director, KION News/Talk. Mark, what happened?
MARK CARBONARO, PROGRAM DIRECTOR, KION, NEWS/TALK (via phone): Well, I tell you, Nancy, thanks and great to be with you once again. Well, I`ll tell you what happened there was that Judge Russell Scott agreed with the defense.
GRACE: Wait, wait, Mark --
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GRACE: Mark Carbonaro, I`m seeing a shot that had been a live shot in court. All you see is from the neck up. Why does he care what he`s wearing?
CARBONARO: Well, the judge doesn`t care what he`s wearing and it`s not going to prejudice the judge but what they were worried about was the pictures that would land in the media, but here`s the one thing the judge said.
He said, OK, Jesse Crow can wear a civilian clothes in the court for his pretrial hearings but he must remained shackled and the reason for that is the judge is concerned about security in the courtroom.
The Monterey County Courts, Nancy, are split into a number of different buildings. And a few years ago, they discovered asbestos in the main court building. So --
GRACE: Right.
CARBONARO: They`re still working on cleaning that up, and in the interim, many of the courts are in portable modular buildings, and the security, quite frankly is not --
GRACE: Is a problem.
CARBONARO: -- what you`d really like.
GRACE: With me Mark Carbonaro --
CARBONARO: So they`re worried about without him in shackles. He could get lose.
GRACE: KION News/Talk. Very quickly to you, Eleanor, he`s worried about what he`s wearing?
E. ODOM: Yes, exactly, Nancy. And so many defense attorneys file these motions, saying, oh, we can`t have him seen on TV.
GRACE: Eleanor, Eleanor, when I tried felony cases for all those years I personally kept a jacket and a pair of pants and whenever the defendant would jump up and say he was worried about his outfit, oh no, we would not have a delay in a case. He`d put on that blue jacket and those gray pants.
E. ODOM: Well, that was a good idea, Nancy, because, you know, you don`t want the media to show him in his orange jumpsuit, although I think people can be fair and impartial at a trial.
GRACE: You know what, this, while the bride`s body is still missing. He`s concerned about what to wear to court.
Everyone, we are taking your calls live, but very quickly, to tonight`s "NG Family" album. Here are photos of the twins. There we are at the beach in New Jersey, with their daddy. Here we are with grandmommy swinging them.
And now your family photos. Colorado, Washington, friends, mother and daughter in law, Juanita and Anna Marie. Not only do they share watching our show every night -- thank you, ladies -- but also share the same birthday.
South Carolina friend, Vicky, an Air Force vet, served 20 years. Devoted to country and now devoted to taking care of her 88-year-old grandmother.
Now that`s a beauty inside and out. Thank you, friends.
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UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: The search is on for beautiful young newlywed Ryann Crow. Law enforcement needs your help in tracking her down. Ryann vanishes into thin after a shopping trip with her sister. Ryann reported missing after the reliable woman fails to show up for work at a local flower shop.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I want to know what happened to my daughter.
UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Ryann Bunnell`s mother, father and sister funneled into the courtroom, band together to support their child just as Jesse Crow`s mother and a friend sat seats away in support of their own child.
UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: The husband of newlywed, Ryann Crow, Jesse Crow, has been charged and arraigned for allegedly murdering his wife. Crow, pleading not guilty in court, wearing an orange and white-striped jailed jumpsuit, but his attorneys ask a judge for cameras to shoot Crow from the neck up at the arraignment.
Crow`s attorneys also ask another judge to allow their clients to always wear street clothes to future hearings.
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GRACE: The bride`s body is still missing. Out to Clark Goldman, our producer on the story.
Clark, take me back, give me the chain of events.
CLARK GOLDBAND, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER, COVERING STORY: Sure, Nancy. It was a Saturday afternoon and she was working at the local flora shop. Her sister had borrowed the car and she calls her sister, and Ryann says, hey, I`m not feeling well, please come pick me up.
Sister comes. They go shopping for some cards for the father. They were supposed to be attending his party that evening. However, Ryann never made it there.
GRACE: Her body, as I said, still missing. When police finally conduct the search warrant on the groom`s home, they find, not only obviously evidence of a murder, but they also find 300 marijuana plants grown to the tune of a trafficking and drugs amount.
Sheryl McCollum, what we know is police have found evidence of murder. We don`t know what it is.
SHERYL MCCOLLUM, CRIME ANALYST, DIR. OF COLD CASE SQUAD AT PINE LAKE P.D.: Right.
GRACE: And in your capacity -- in your capacity as a cold case analyst, what do they have? They don`t have a body, so how did they know a murder has taken place?
MCCOLLUM: Probably the amount of blood. If it`s just an exorbitant amount and where it is, and if there`s like high velocity or splatter they`re going to be able to determine this was not an accident. This was not a nose bleed.
This is a serious bodily injury that he`s not going to be able to explain why there is that amount of blood in his house.
And, Nancy, let me be clear about something else. An arrest does not mean that an investigation stops. They`re going to stay on this for quite some time.
GRACE: Clark Goldband, do you have an update?
GOLDBAND: Yes, Nancy, we do. Law enforcement there in Salinas have said they have significant amounts of blood and DNA evidence. However, they won`t say where it came from, but they say that this DNA evidence has come through for them in a big way.
GRACE: But we also know -- back out to you, Eleanor Odom, Peter Odom, Renee Rockwell -- that police searched not only his home but home of the other woman. That woman found in his car as he was heading south when police apprehended him.
I believed that the police also searched his parents` home. So the crime scene, Renee Rockwell, could really be any of those three.
ROCKWELL: The crime scene could be any of those three. And Nancy, we can`t discount the fact that there may be other suspects and they`re just waiting for something to break.
GRACE: Other suspects. Put Rockwell back up.
Renee, did you just pull that out of the air? Do you have anything to suggest another suspect?
ROCKWELL: Just because someone has been killed in a certain spot does not necessarily mean that, number one, it`s her husband, number two, he acted alone, or number three, that it could be a combination of him, other people and --
GRACE: Well, if you don`t think the evidence suggests it`s the husband, why do you think he`s charged with murder one, Renee?
ROCKWELL: They obviously have something against him, Nancy.
GRACE: Yes.
ROCKWELL: But that does not discount the fact there may be other people involved.
GRACE: No, no, no. That was not my question to you, Renee. My question to you was, do you have any scintilla, a shed, a particle of evidence to suggest anyone other than the husband, and we know the "other" woman is a person of interest -- do you have anything to suggest that there is somebody else involved?
ROCKWELL: Me, myself, personally, no. But what they do is they --
GRACE: Yes, you, yourself, personally.
ROCKWELL: OK.
GRACE: So was that a no?
ROCKWELL: That`s a no.
GRACE: OK, thank you.
ROCKWELL: That Renee Rockwell doesn`t have --
GRACE: Took a long time getting that out.
ROCKWELL: But Nancy, he`s got a $3 million bond.
GRACE: Yes, I know.
ROCKWELL: He`s probably not going to get out.
GRACE: So?
ROCKWELL: And they may be waiting for him to make some kind of deal, saying, wait, let me just come to you and tell what really happened.
GRACE: OK. You know what?
ROCKWELL: If so.
GRACE: You know, wake up. Wake up out of your dream that you`re verbalizing on the air.
Peter Odom, what about the other woman? OK, there`s no evidence anybody else is involved. What Rockwell just said is a defense attorney`s argument to the jury. It means absolutely nothing. But what about the other woman?
We know that is a distinct possibility. She has actually been named an official person of interest.
P. ODOM: Right, and Nancy, what the police are trying to build -- especially since they don`t have a body, they`re going to be building a circumstantial case. The other woman potentially provides a motive. And the motive evidence is going to be all the more crucial where they don`t have a body in the case.
GRACE: You know, Eleanor, last time I looked, you don`t charge -- you don`t call somebody a person of interest unless you think they may have been involved in the crime.
Not that they were the motive, not that they were sleeping with the guy, dating with the guy, living with him, the murderer, suspect. You have to be actually involved. Albeit tangentially to be considered a person of interest.
E. ODOM: Exactly, Nancy, and she may have some information.
GRACE: So what is O (ph) talking about?
E. ODOM: Well, I`m not sure what he`s talking about but he`s trying to find a way out for the defense attorney, of course.
GRACE: OK.
E. ODOM: He`s a defense attorney.
GRACE: Enough said. Got it. Out to the lines, Charlene in Indiana. Hi, Charlene.
CHARLENE, CALLER FROM INDIANA: Hi, first of all, I want to tell you thank you so much for everything that you do. And as always, we need this show of yours. But I was wondering on his apparel issues that he had, it looks like this guy`s probably been around the block a few times to think this far ahead that this may make a difference, you know, six months down the road whenever they see these pictures at trial.
And I wondered also about the parents. How involved in the search for his wife that they were --
GRACE: You mean the suspect`s parents?
CHARLENE: Correct.
GRACE: OK. Out to Mark Carbonaro. Mark.
CARBONARO: Yes.
GRACE: Were the suspect`s parents involved at all in the search?
CARBONARO: I do not believe so, though I do know that they have search warrants that were issued for the properties of Mr. Crow, the father`s home in Prunedale, and also the girl in Pacific Grove.
GRACE: Right.
CARBONARO: But I know that Jesse himself did not participate in the search itself.
GRACE: Exactly.
Everyone, you are seeing photos of the groom throwing out the trash. He turned into a neat nick the moment his wife went missing.
As we go to break, everybody, happy birthday to Sam, a senior at Georgia Southern University, majoring in biology, computer science, holds down a job and knows how to cook. He`s a handsome guy.
Happy birthday, Sam.
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UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: The D.A. says there`s a tremendous amount of circumstantial evidence against Crow.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Solid forensic evidence has been collected and analyzed by expert criminalists at the California Department of Justice Bureau of Forensic Services, which supports our conclusion.
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GRACE: Straight out to Dr. Michael Bell, Palm Beach County chief medical examiner.
Dr. Bell, thank you for being with us. Dr. Bell, this is every defendant`s dream, the longer it takes to find the body, the less likely it will be identified or of any use at trial. Explain.
DR. MICHAEL BELL, PALM BEACH CO. CHIEF MEDICAL EXAMINER: Well, because of decomposition, the body is going to be more difficult to identify and sometimes the cause of death may be more difficult to pinpoint as well.
GRACE: With me, Dr. Michael Bell, Palm Beach County chief medical examiner.
Salinas Police indicate they have blood and DNA evidence. What do you think of that?
BELL: Well, I suspect that it`s most likely blood. It may be a collection of both. The victim`s blood as well as the accused. It`s probably a large amount, and they may even have a potential weapon that is covered with some of the blood.
GRACE: Out to the lines, Arlene in Maryland. Hi, Arlene.
ARLENE, CALLER FROM MARYLAND: Hi.
GRACE: Hi, dear. What`s your question, dear?
ARLENE: What I was wondering is that in that dumpster that him and his girlfriend were filling up so much, did the police check that to see if maybe she was underneath all the jazz they were putting in there?
GRACE: To Mark Carbonaro, KION -- what about it, Mark?
CARBONARO: They checked everything in the dumpster and there was no evidence in the dumpster that they could use.
GRACE: What was he throwing away, Mark?
CARBONARO: Just -- I imagine personal belongings. They have not told us exactly the nature of what was being thrown out.
GRACE: I just saw him throwing out a laundry basket. It reminds me of when Scott Peterson`s wife, Laci Peterson, and her unborn child Connell went missing. He suddenly started doing laundry and cleaning the house.
It`s not a good look when your wife goes missing.
CARBONARO: No, no. And Nancy, the other thing, too, is if he was throwing out personal belongings of hers into that dumpster, that could be incriminating in and of itself.
GRACE: Man, you are not kidding. I hope cops saved every shred of trash in that dumpster.
Everyone, the tip line, 831-775-4222, in the search for the bride`s body, Ryann Crow. Ryann Bunnell Crow, 23.
Let`s stop and remember Army Corporal Matthew Bolar, 24, Montgomery, Alabama, killed Iraq. On a second tour, awarded the Bronze Star, devoted to country, volunteered to go back to Iraq in place of soldiers with families.
Gave up scholarship at Auburn University to enlist. Loved military history. Fly fishing. New Orleans Saints. LSU Tigers. Leaves behind parents Gordon and Ann, stepfather Vernon, sister Emma.
Matthew Bolar, American hero.
Thanks to our guests but especially to you for being with us. And happy birthday to Florida friend, anchor/reporter Mark Williams.
Happy birthday, Mark.
Everyone, I`ll see you tomorrow night, 8:00 sharp Eastern. And until then, good night, friend.
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