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Nancy Grace
Casey Anthony Jailhouse Tapes
Aired July 13, 2011 - 20:00 ET
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NANCY GRACE, HOST: Tonight, tot mom, Casey Anthony, raw and uncensored, the jailhouse tapes that started it all. As she spends her final days behind bars in what can only be described as a stunning not guilty verdict, we obtain tot mom`s jailhouse visits with parents George and Cindy Anthony and brother Lee, all caught on video.
Their private conversations become evidence against tot mom, grilled with questions about Caylee`s disappearance. Despite tot mom blaming father George of sexually abusing her and covering up Caylee`s "drowning," tot mom, Casey Anthony, allows George to visit her behind bars, even calling him, quote, "the best dad and grandfather."
Tonight, the first of our three-part series, "Tot Mom: Raw and Uncensored."
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
(CROSSTALK)
CASEY ANTHONY, CAYLEE`S MOTHER: Oh! Hold on. Can we turn the volume down? You can probably hear it.
CINDY ANTHONY, CASEY`S MOTHER: The whole United States is looking for our Caylee.
CASEY ANTHONY: I know that, Mom.
CINDY ANTHONY: Her cover`s going to be on "People" magazine in a few days.
CASEY ANTHONY: OK.
CINDY ANTHONY: Everybody is looking for her.
CASEY ANTHONY: Good.
CINDY ANTHONY: Everybody is looking for her. Are we going to be able to find her, do you think?
CASEY ANTHONY: I hope we can, Mom. Now, I didn`t get a chance to ask Lee...
CINDY ANTHONY: Can you look up a little bit more? Raise your eyes up a little bit. There you go...
(CROSSTALK)
CINDY ANTHONY: Look straight up so I can look into your eyes, darling. Thank you. You know I need to do that. It`s OK to cry, Casey. It`s all right, love. We`ve all been crying.
I know the pictures of Caylee in Zanny`s apartment. Is Zanny`s apartment the ones with the drum?
CASEY ANTHONY: She had a drum set, yes.
CINDY ANTHONY: The one in the picture?
CASEY ANTHONY: I think there were even other pictures. I told Lee to look through everything.
CINDY ANTHONY: OK. Is that Zanny`s apartment? Because I know whose apartment it is. Is it Zanny`s apartment?
CASEY ANTHONY: That exact apartment, no, that was Ricardo`s apartment. It was set up a lot like Zanny`s apartment.
CINDY ANTHONY: OK. Do we have any pictures of Zanny`s apartment?
CASEY ANTHONY: Mom, Lee and I already talked about this. I don`t know.
CINDY ANTHONY: All right.
CASEY ANTHONY: It could be on the desk at home. I don`t know.
CINDY ANTHONY: Do you think Zanny`s acting by herself, or does she have help?
CASEY ANTHONY: I don`t know, Mom. I haven`t been able to talk to anybody. I don`t know. I`m hoping that if there`s people involved, there`s as many people that are dumb enough to open their mouths and say something as possible. But Mom, I have nothing to go off of at the moment. I don`t know.
CINDY ANTHONY: OK.
CASEY ANTHONY: I really -- I don`t know. Jose and I go over this every time we talk.
CINDY ANTHONY: What age is her mother?
CASEY ANTHONY: She`s...
(CROSSTALK)
CASEY ANTHONY: She`s between your age and Dad`s age, so...
CINDY ANTHONY: About 55?
CASEY ANTHONY: Roughly, yes.
CINDY ANTHONY: Have you ever heard her sister`s name? Not Zanny`s sister, her mom`s sister`s name, Zanny`s aunt`s name?
CASEY ANTHONY: No.
CINDY ANTHONY: Is it possible that she could be staying with her -- Zanny`s mom could be staying with Zanny`s aunt in Miami?
CASEY ANTHONY: That`s a possibility. I don`t know where exactly they are in Miami or who they`re staying with, but it`s a possibility. All I know is...
CINDY ANTHONY: Does Josefina sound familiar to you? Josefina?
CASEY ANTHONY: No.
CINDY ANTHONY: OK.
GEORGE ANTHONY, CASEY`S FATHER: Hey, gorgeous. How`re you doing?
CASEY ANTHONY: I look like hell!
GEORGE ANTHONY: Well, you know something? You really need to keep your spirit high for all this.
CASEY ANTHONY: I have. I haven`t been crying while I`ve been in here.
GEORGE ANTHONY: Well, you know something?
CASEY ANTHONY: I`ve been trying to read books and do other things to keep my mind off of stuff.
CINDY ANTHONY: What message do you want me to give to Zanny and to Caylee? What do you want me to tell Zanny?
CASEY ANTHONY: That she needs to return Caylee.
CINDY ANTHONY: What do you think her reasons are?
CASEY ANTHONY: Mom, I don`t know!
CINDY ANTHONY: OK.
CASEY ANTHONY: I forgive her. My only concern is that Caylee comes back to us and she`s smiling and she`s happy and that she`s -- that she`s OK.
CINDY ANTHONY: OK. What do you want me to tell Caylee?
CASEY ANTHONY: That Mommy loves her very much and she`s most important thing in this entire world to me and to be brave!
Silver Ford Focus 2008, four-door. The windows aren`t tinted. It`s very basic. There`s a pink floral carseat on the right passenger side, in the back seat. That`s the car seat that she`s had for Caylee.
CINDY ANTHONY: And that`s why Caylee doesn`t -- none of her stuff`s missing from the house because she`s got everything.
CASEY ANTHONY: She has everything. She`s always had shoes, socks, diapers, clothes, toys -- I mean, you name it.
CINDY ANTHONY: Who else did she ever nanny for before besides Jeff, that you`re aware of?
CASEY ANTHONY: No one that I know of. He was the only person that I knew of.
CINDY ANTHONY: OK.
CASEY ANTHONY: I know she had watched her nephews and her niece. Outside of that, I don`t know if there was anyone else.
CINDY ANTHONY: OK. And she definitely watched Annabelle?
CASEY ANTHONY: Definitely watched Annabelle on several occasions.
CINDY ANTHONY: OK.
We never really got a full description of Zanny. I know she`s got brown curly hair.
CASEY ANTHONY: About shoulder length. She wears it straight.
CINDY ANTHONY: It`s curly.
CASEY ANTHONY: It`s curly, but she always wears it straight. This is what I`m telling you. It`s called a straightener, remember? She`s the one that gave me my straightener.
CINDY ANTHONY: That`s true. OK. How tall is she?
CASEY ANTHONY: About 5-7-ish. She`s just, like, maybe an inch or two shorter than Dad, so 5-6, 5-7, very thin, maybe a little bit more meat than me, about 140-ish, fairly tan, brown eyes. No tattoos that I`ve ever seen, that I know of.
CINDY ANTHONY: Well, I would think if anybody around her knew her, they would have come forward by now.
CASEY ANTHONY: That`s what I`m thinking. That`s even what I told Jose. If it was anyone that -- especially has known me, that knows Caylee, that at least knows of us.
CINDY ANTHONY: Did anybody ask you to describe her and they did a composite drawing of her?
CASEY ANTHONY: Not once. And when they went and interviewed that girl down in Kissimmee, they never showed me a picture of her.
(CROSSTALK)
CINDY ANTHONY: OK. Now, they told us...
(CROSSTALK)
CINDY ANTHONY: Well, they told us that you couldn`t pull her out of a line-up.
CASEY ANTHONY: They`re full of (EXPLETIVE DELETED)! I had told them multiple times, Find a sketch artist, show me pictures. Show me something. I can point her out to you.
I truly, truly love that little girl and miss her so much! God! And I miss you guys!
CINDY ANTHONY: I know, honey. We miss you, too.
CASEY ANTHONY: I know Lee`s priority list. We went through things, and I know Caylee`s at the top of everybody`s priority list. I`m the last on mine right now.
CINDY ANTHONY: I know you are. I know you`re the last on your list because you`re...
CASEY ANTHONY: I`ll sit here as long as I have to! I don`t care!
CINDY ANTHONY: I know. Are you protecting Caylee or are you protecting me? Are you protecting who?
CASEY ANTHONY: Lee and I...
(CROSSTALK)
CASEY ANTHONY: Lee and I have made an agreement. I`m going to start writing letters. I`m going to do it today. I`m going to write individual letters to each of you, send them through the jail, through the jail mail.
CINDY ANTHONY: Casey, I don`t want to wait for the mail, darling.
CASEY ANTHONY: I`m protecting our family, yes, not from anything that I`ve done.
CINDY ANTHONY: Someone threatening us? Someone threatening us?
CASEY ANTHONY: Mom, just leave it at that, please.
CINDY ANTHONY: OK.
CASEY ANTHONY: For right now, just leave it at that.
CINDY ANTHONY: OK. I trust you. If you think of anything that could help, don`t be afraid.
CASEY ANTHONY: Oh, I won`t hesitate to let you guys know.
CINDY ANTHONY: You can`t be afraid, Casey, of anybody. You`ve got to get that strength from me and your dad and your brother. I know you have it in you, OK? You need to get that strength inside and do not feel like someone could hang anything over you or anything over us or threaten us because -- well, you have said you`re protecting this family. You don`t need to protect this family. Family`s been through a lot.
How come she never got a chance to get the car? It doesn`t make sense.
CASEY ANTHONY: Mom -- because this is recorded and I don`t know who`s going to see things and who`s going to misconstrue, whatever else, like I said, there`s things that I directly need to say to each of you...
CINDY ANTHONY: OK.
CASEY ANTHONY: ... that...
CINDY ANTHONY: I trust that.
CASEY ANTHONY: ... Lee and I are finding other means to do.
CINDY ANTHONY: I`m sorry.
CASEY ANTHONY: You don`t have to apologize. It`s good to actually see you guys smile a little bit.
CINDY ANTHONY: Dad was out sweating, working, doing flyers and stuff.
(CROSSTALK)
CASEY ANTHONY: I haven`t showered in two days.
CINDY ANTHONY: We got a flat tire as we were getting off the expressway. My care tire went flat.
CASEY ANTHONY: Hey, guess what? That happened to me!
CINDY ANTHONY: Yes. Did Lee tell you how much the reward is for finding Caylee?
CASEY ANTHONY: No.
CINDY ANTHONY: Can you imagine?
CASEY ANTHONY: I haven`t heard anything of this, so...
CINDY ANTHONY: It`s over $200,000 -- I think it`s $225,000.
CASEY ANTHONY: Jesus Christ! That`s almost half my bond.
CINDY ANTHONY: Well, a lot of people want that little girl found.
CASEY ANTHONY: Good. The more people, the better. Everyone should want her back.
GEORGE ANTHONY: You know, I just had a little analogy of our family. Think of me as the thumb. Think of Dad. The next finger, you know, the index finger, is your mom. You know, she likes to point, just like Caylee.
CASEY ANTHONY: Yes, but it`s the middle finger.
GEORGE ANTHONY: OK. The middle finger I guess is Mom, probably. I`m looking at size in the family. You know, the next finger after that is going to be Lee, and then it`s going to be you. And the final, that little pinky, that`s Caylee. So think of your hand and say, This is us.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: Next, more bombshell video of tot mom, Casey Anthony, behind bars just as the jury saw it.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
GRACE: During jailhouse visits, we hear from tot mom`s own mouth, lashing out at friends, acquaintances, lovers, claiming they`ve all twisted her words, conspiring against her, all the while insisting little Caylee is alive. Then at trial, her new defense is Caylee drowned and father, ex-cop George Anthony, covered it all up to make it look like a murder. Tot mom even diverting attention to alleged sightings of little Caylee as far away as Puerto Rico, Georgia, Tennessee, North Carolina, California.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
CASEY ANTHONY: Dad, you`ve seen what`s blown up in my face. They misconstrued things that I said to them. Resources that I gave them, they haven`t used. So in all honesty, as much as I`d like to at the moment, if I`m going to, it won`t be an in-person conversation. It won`t be an over- the-phone conversation. It will be in writing so there`s no way of them twisting my words or saying that I didn`t give them information.
CINDY ANTHONY: Is there any messages to anybody that you want me to give? Do you want me to tell Amy anything, Tony anything?
CASEY ANTHONY: Mom, tell Amy that I`m sorry.
CINDY ANTHONY: OK.
CASEY ANTHONY: Tell Ryan I appreciate all of his help. If you could ask him to come, if he gets a chance to come in town -- I don`t know if he`s going to be able to.
CINDY ANTHONY: OK. OK.
CASEY ANTHONY: I mean, just tell the rest of the family that I...
(CROSSTALK)
CASEY ANTHONY: What the hell is there to say to him? I mean, it took a friend of mine that I haven`t seen in at least four years, haven`t talked to in maybe longer than that, someone from high school, to come and see me, and he hasn`t made any effort, won`t talk to Jose, you know, when I sent even a specific note. I mean, I would like to reach out to him to talk to him, but at the same time, my concern is you guys.
CINDY ANTHONY: OK. How about Jesse? He`s been real close. Is there anything you want me to tell Jesse?
CASEY ANTHONY: I would like Jesse to stay as far away from you guys as possible. I`m saying that whole-heartedly and as calmly as possible.
CINDY ANTHONY: OK.
CASEY ANTHONY: I don`t know how much I trust him right now, and I even told Lee that. Lee`s going to investigate a few people for me. In my gut, I don`t know if I can trust him.
CINDY ANTHONY: Has Jesse ever watched Caylee in the last month or so while he was off work?
CASEY ANTHONY: No.
CINDY ANTHONY: OK.
CASEY ANTHONY: The last time he watched Caylee was at his parents` house when she was a baby. So that was 2006.
CINDY ANTHONY: OK. You know, his dad has been trying to reach out to your dad. His mom sent Lee an e-mail to tell us that they -- as much as the differences that they had with you, they still know that you`re a good mom and that, you know, they want Caylee, as well. So I want you to know that.
CASEY ANTHONY: Well, I appreciate that. I mean, coming from his family, yes, that means a lot. As far as Jesse as an individual, it`s very questionable for me.
CASEY ANTHONY: Your Tiffany ring, your little heart ring -- where is it?
CASEY ANTHONY: I don`t know. I haven`t seen it for a long time.
CINDY ANTHONY: And who gave you that ring again? I forget.
CASEY ANTHONY: Jeff.
CINDY ANTHONY: OK. We can`t find Jeff.
CASEY ANTHONY: Lee actually has more information on stuff like that.
CINDY ANTHONY: OK.
CASEY ANTHONY: He said that he knows information about him, about Juliet, about other people.
CINDY ANTHONY: Is there any particular day for sure that you know we need to track this back to?
CASEY ANTHONY: As far as what, Mom? What specifically?
CINDY ANTHONY: The last day you saw Caylee.
CASEY ANTHONY: The 16th.
CINDY ANTHONY: Now, I thought Tara said her and Caylee spoke on the phone on -- that week.
CASEY ANTHONY: Tara?
CINDY ANTHONY: Tara from Michigan.
CASEY ANTHONY: You mean Mark`s psycho ex-wife, Tara?
CINDY ANTHONY: Yes.
CASEY ANTHONY: She has not even spoken to me since probably the end of May, at least. I have not spoken with Tara in well over two months.
CINDY ANTHONY: OK. She said that she had a 13-minute -- no, no, no, no. Not 13. That was someone else -- that she had over an hour conversation with you. She was having issues.
CASEY ANTHONY: Yes. Exactly. Like, two months ago. I haven`t talked to her since then.
(CROSSTALK)
CINDY ANTHONY: Well, she said it was just a few weeks ago.
CASEY ANTHONY: You can check the number on my call records.
CINDY ANTHONY: Don`t get upset. I`m just saying...
CASEY ANTHONY: No! I`m just telling you...
CINDY ANTHONY: She`s saying that...
CASEY ANTHONY: I know what she`s saying.
CINDY ANTHONY: ... the babies spoke to each other. OK.
CASEY ANTHONY: The babies never spoke to each other! I never even put Caylee on the phone. Don`t...
CINDY ANTHONY: Well...
CASEY ANTHONY: Listen, Mom...
CINDY ANTHONY: No, Casey...
CASEY ANTHONY: I`m not getting mad at you.
CINDY ANTHONY: Is there a Tia Torres in our neighborhood? There`s a Tia Torres...
CASEY ANTHONY: Tia Torres?
CINDY ANTHONY: Yes.
CASEY ANTHONY: I don`t know who that is. I don`t know who a lot of the people are that live in our neighborhood, outside of...
CINDY ANTHONY: Well, she -- I forget who she told, but she told someone that I was hospitalized recently with a mental condition.
CASEY ANTHONY: Wow!
CINDY ANTHONY: (INAUDIBLE) serious.
CASEY ANTHONY: I`m glad I`m not on the outside. I`m really glad I`m not out there.
CINDY ANTHONY: You`d be surprised the crap that`s coming, you know, that people...
(CROSSTALK)
CASEY ANTHONY: I`m not surprised at the crap that`s coming. That`s another reason I don`t want to hear any of this media (EXPLETIVE DELETED). People want to have their face on the news, want to have their two seconds of fame. I never once wanted to be on TV or to have anything, period, let alone it be the worst, catastrophic thing that could happen not only to myself but to our family.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: Next, just like in the courtroom in front of the jury, tot mom, Casey Anthony, turns on the waterworks, crying in front of parents George and Cindy at a jailhouse visit, but then admits she hasn`t shed a single tear behind bars for Caylee.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
GRACE: Tot mom, Casey Anthony, says she`s doing all she can to avoid even thinking of little Caylee. She reads, she naps, she watches herself on TV, lounging in her private jail cell. During a jailhouse visit with parents George and Cindy, it`s all about tot mom. And she keeps on and on, talking about, what else, herself. Not one mention of Caylee`s death.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
CASEY ANTHONY: I ate cole slaw today. Tell him (ph) I ate cole slaw.
CINDY ANTHONY: Well, you`ll probably eat a lot of things you never used to eat before because when you`re hungry, you`ll eat.
CASEY ANTHONY: I hated baloney. I`ve been eating baloney and cheese on occasion. Grits -- I don`t do grits at all. It`s terrible!
(LAUGHTER)
CINDY ANTHONY: Well, you know what? You`re going to eat what`s in front of you.
Now, we only have five minutes. What else do you want me to check on?
CASEY ANTHONY: I thought they were giving us extra time.
CINDY ANTHONY: I don`t know. That`s only five minutes in this session.
CASEY ANTHONY: Oh, I know. And it`ll cut off when we have one minute left, and then we`ll get our last minute. I`m fine.
CINDY ANTHONY: OK.
CASEY ANTHONY: I want you guys to know that. I`m eating to the best of ability. I miss real food.
GEORGE ANTHONY: What can I do?
CASEY ANTHONY: Just try to keep talking to the media, I guess, keep things positive, keep it focused on Caylee. That needs to be the main focus.
GEORGE ANTHONY: Is there anything else that you want to say directly to me at all?
CASEY ANTHONY: Just that I wish that none of this would have ever happened. I really wish none of this would have ever happened.
GEORGE ANTHONY: Well, we all feel that way.
But we`ve got to bring you and we`ve got to bring Caylee home and -- and we know where you`re at. I don`t want to see you here. I don`t want you here. But...
CASEY ANTHONY: Yes, but in some ways, I almost feel more protected here than if I were on the outside.
GEORGE ANTHONY: Well, I guess there`s some truth in that. But you know, once you get that little girl home, which I hope is today, you know, that stuff with you is not going to be easy to get through, but at least we`ll have you out also, and that`s...
CASEY ANTHONY: As long as we have Caylee home, everything else with me we`ll deal with as we can. Lee made a good point. Getting Caylee home is our priority. Everything else will fall into place after that. And that`s the truth.
CINDY ANTHONY: Did Caylee ever stay at Tony`s?
CASEY ANTHONY: No.
CINDY ANTHONY: Are you sure?
CASEY ANTHONY: Positive. We hung out over there, but she never stayed, no.
CINDY ANTHONY: OK. Tony admitted to Lee that there`s drugs in his home. Could this be related to something like that?
CASEY ANTHONY: No, it`s not.
CINDY ANTHONY: OK. Just had to ask...
CASEY ANTHONY: No, his roommates smoke weed. But no.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: When we come back, tot mom dodges one question after the next, and it`s all caught on jailhouse video, raw and uncensored.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
GRACE: Welcome back to tot mom Casey Anthony raw and uncensored. The jailhouse tapes that started it all as the clock ticks down to tot mom`s release from the Orange County jail after what can only be described as a stunning not guilty verdict.
We`ve obtained tot mom Casey Anthony`s private jailhouse visits with parents George and Cindy and brother Lee Anthony. Tot mom desperate to get herself out of jail, claiming once she`s outside, she can bring little Caylee home.
Tot mom dodges question after question, all the while playing the victim and blaming police but not a single legitimate discussion about the search for Caylee.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
CASEY ANTHONY, MOTHER OF CAYLEE ANTHONY: I never took Caylee anywhere to get her haircut. That`s why when I heard that, that was complete (EXPLETIVE DELETED). The only time Caylee has gotten her hair cut has been at the house when you did that.
CINDY ANTHONY, CASEY ANTHONY`S MOTHER: I know that. But who`s your beautician?
(CROSSTALK)
CASEY ANTHONY: No one colored my hair. I did my hair last.
CINDY ANTHONY: OK.
CASEY ANTHONY: No one has touched my head since the first week of April after my 21st birthday last year. That was the last person that cut my hair.
CINDY ANTHONY: I`m just wondering where that came from.
CASEY ANTHONY: Yes, exactly. I`m wondering where that came from.
CINDY ANTHONY: So one minute.
CASEY ANTHONY: I know.
CINDY ANTHONY: What do you want to say to us?
CASEY ANTHONY: That I love you and that I miss you and you know you guys stay as strong as possible.
CINDY ANTHONY: We are, Casey. Our whole lives are turned upside down looking for this little girl.
CASEY ANTHONY: I know. Trust me, if I could be out there with you, I would be in a heartbeat trying to help take the strain off of you trying to find her. That`s all I want to do.
CINDY ANTHONY: And we`re going to see her little face again.
CASEY ANTHONY: I pray to God every day that we do.
CINDY ANTHONY: Casey --
CASEY ANTHONY: Mom --
GEORGE ANTHONY, CASEY ANTHONY`S FATHER: I want to be able to reach out and hug you and give you the -- you know, the big Papa Joe hug. But you know we`ve got to get that little girl back any way we can. And we`re doing everything we can.
CASEY ANTHONY: Dad, that`s my only concern. I gave Lee a statement. I want him to speak to whoever, the media, give them a statement specifically from me. He`s going to give them an exact quote. My only concern next to Caylee is you guys. That`s my only concern.
CINDY ANTHONY: All I`m trying to do is find Caylee for both of us.
CASEY ANTHONY: Oh, I know.
CINDY ANTHONY: For all of us. And I`ll do whatever that takes.
CASEY ANTHONY: I feel the exact same way. That`s exactly what I`ve been saying. I don`t care what I have to do. When I told them I would lie, I would steal, I would do whatever by any means to get her back. That`s exactly how I feel. It`s the truth.
CINDY ANTHONY: Casey, we have to find her before her 3rd birthday.
CASEY ANTHONY: Mom, I know --
CINDY ANTHONY: That`s coming up fast.
CASEY ANTHONY: I know. We have a couple weeks.
CINDY ANTHONY: I don`t want to wait another minute let alone --
CASEY ANTHONY: I don`t want to wait another minute. I want -- I want her to be found whether I`m still stuck in here or not, I don`t care.
CINDY ANTHONY: I think once she`s found, then you can tell everybody what you know. And you`ll be released. Don`t you think?
CASEY ANTHONY: Potentially. I don`t know. Yuri has it set in his mind that I`ve done something.
CINDY ANTHONY: Well, he thinks -- he thinks you guys did something to Caylee.
G. ANTHONY: This might be a tough thing to answer.
CASEY ANTHONY: No, go ahead.
G. ANTHONY: But did you borrow something from anyone or remove it without their permission that Caylee might be needing help for?
CASEY ANTHONY: No.
G. ANTHONY: I know that`s a tough question, sweetie, but I just need to ask you.
CASEY ANTHONY: It`s not a tough question, Dad. I mean Mom knows the stuff that I had taken from her. We`ve discussed that, you know, on numerous occasions. And with Amy, you know, I mean I feel guilty about that. I feel extremely guilty. But I was under a time of desperation.
G. ANTHONY: Well, what do you mean by that, with time of desperation? I don`t understand.
CASEY ANTHONY: Like I said to you, or I said to mom, and Lee and I have spoken, and he advised me of something which is very smart, the written contact will be better than anything that`s going to be recorded since we can`t speak openly, freely, in person.
G. ANTHONY: OK. I don`t want to take time then going into anything else. I just -- I want you to know, is there something that I can do for you, sweetie? I want you out of here. There was a lot of hard decisions to make and we`re trying to find that little girl. We`re trying.
CASEY ANTHONY: I know you are.
G. ANTHONY: I mean, all of us have experienced a lot, we`ve asked so many questions, we`ve went on emotions and -- but if there is anything at all that you want to share, you know, you`ve got to share it. You know, write it down. You know, I mean, I know Mr. Baez is working in your best interests, but, you know --
CASEY ANTHONY: My number one --
(CROSSTALK)
G. ANTHONY: Would you be interested in talking to like an FBI guy or something?
CASEY ANTHONY: Anyone that you guys want to bring in, I`ll talk to.
G. ANTHONY: OK. That`s straight. That`s great news. OK.
CINDY ANTHONY: Is it just the local police you don`t feel comfortable to?
CASEY ANTHONY: Oh, it`s just --
CINDY ANTHONY: Or is it just the authority in general?
CASEY ANTHONY: It`s those two specific. It`s Adams and Melich. Now, Happy Wells, the other --
CINDY ANTHONY: Allen and Melich?
CASEY ANTHONY: Allen. Yes. Sorry. John Allen and Melich.
CINDY ANTHONY: OK.
CASEY ANTHONY: The other guy that came to the house -- I don`t know if you remember him very well. He went by Happy, his last name was Wells.
CINDY ANTHONY: Happy Wells? You want to talk to him?
CASEY ANTHONY: Happy Wells. I would speak to him of any of the -- you know, the detectives.
CINDY ANTHONY: Would you speak with him with Jose or would you speak to him by yourself or --
CASEY ANTHONY: I would speak to him alone or with Jose. It doesn`t matter. We had a lot of conversations when I sat up in the room that day. I just sat in the lobby of the sheriff`s department.
CINDY ANTHONY: OK.
CASEY ANTHONY: For probably a good three, almost four hours.
CINDY ANTHONY: OK.
CASEY ANTHONY: And Happy and I sat there and we conversed. He was very concerned with Caylee. Wanting to find Caylee. That was his priority.
CINDY ANTHONY: Casey, if we don`t find her, you know, they are trying to build a case against you.
CASEY ANTHONY: That`s what they`ve been doing. I know. That`s the other two detectives` main goal is building a case.
CINDY ANTHONY: I know. And that`s why I`m so frustrated, because I know they are not --
CASEY ANTHONY: That`s why I`m frustrated. That`s why I don`t want to speak to either of them because it`s not going to do any good. It really isn`t.
CINDY ANTHONY: Well, we`ll make it happen with this other person.
CASEY ANTHONY: Thank you.
CINDY ANTHONY: And like I said, if we can get an outside source, like FBI to talk to you --
CASEY ANTHONY: If you can get someone outside, that`s fine. Bring in whoever. By any means.
CINDY ANTHONY: OK.
CASEY ANTHONY: You and I are on the same page with that. We will do whatever is necessary.
CINDY ANTHONY: OK. All right, honey. I believe that.
CASEY ANTHONY: I just want her back.
CINDY ANTHONY: I know you do.
CASEY ANTHONY: God.
CINDY ANTHONY: You have to keep thinking positive. Positive feelings, Casey.
CASEY ANTHONY: Oh, I know. I have been. I`ve been staying as positive as I can.
CINDY ANTHONY: But do you think after this long she`d still be local?
CASEY ANTHONY: There`s a possibility.
CINDY ANTHONY: What`s your gut telling you right now?
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CASEY ANTHONY: My gut is telling me that she`s OK.
CINDY ANTHONY: OK. And your gut tell you that she`s close or some -- she`s hiding?
CASEY ANTHONY: She`s not far. I know in my heart she`s not far. I can feel it.
CINDY ANTHONY: Jose said that you said that everything would make sense once we found Caylee.
CASEY ANTHONY: Well, yes. Once you have someone that you can talk to. That you can get a real explanation from that knows where she`s been. That it`s going to have to make sense at that point. Once we get Caylee, everything else will figure itself out.
CINDY ANTHONY: Is there any --
CASEY ANTHONY: Mom, we`re not talking -- I can`t.
CINDY ANTHONY: No. No. No. No, I know. I`m sorry. I`m just wondering if there`s anything else you want me to tell Caylee because everybody -- you know I always get an opportunity to speak to the media. Is there anything you want me to say to Caylee, any new thoughts or anything.
CASEY ANTHONY: Just tell her that I love her and that I miss her. I mean that`s -- that`s the constant. I`m being as strong as I can considering the situation. It`s just hard. It`s just very hard.
CINDY ANTHONY: I know.
CASEY ANTHONY: God, I just want to go home. Every day I wake up, I`m just hoping and praying that I get to go home. I just want to be with you guys. I just want to help find her. Because I feel a little hopeless. I feel a little helpless here. I mean honestly, not really hopeless but more helpless because I can`t do anything from where I`m at.
Oh, god. My heart is aching. Because I just want to be back with our family. At least in my gut every day, stronger and stronger, I know we`re going to see Caylee. I know she`s coming home. I can feel it. I want you to know that.
CINDY ANTHONY: I want her home now.
CASEY ANTHONY: I know. I want her home now.
CINDY ANTHONY: I want her home so we can celebrate her third birthday as a family again.
CASEY ANTHONY: I know. I know.
(END OF VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: When we come back, tot mom`s brother Lee makes a desperate attempt to couple together the mystery surrounding Caylee`s disappearance.
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GRACE: With 2-year-old Caylee Anthony missing for an entire month, brother Lee desperate for answers from her sister about what happened to Caylee. Even going on the attack against tot mom`s defense lawyer. But Lee Anthony`s efforts are all in vain.
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LEE ANTHONY, CASEY ANTHONY`S BROTHER: It`s recorded and anybody can, you know, listen or hear, you know, including the deputy, Jose, all of that kind of stuff.
CASEY ANTHONY: Yes.
L. ANTHONY: OK. However, there is one thing that nobody can monitor and that is if you`re able to write a letter.
CASEY ANTHONY: OK.
L. ANTHONY: Obviously Jose works for you. OK. Anything that you say to Jose is supposed to be attorney-client privilege and it`s supposed to be in confidence.
CASEY ANTHONY: Yes.
L. ANTHONY: How that works is, even if you ask him to reach out to the family, if you ask him to reach out to law enforcement, if you give him a letter and ask him to do it, he is not going to obligated to do that. He will weigh -- he will make a decision if it`s in his or your best interest.
CASEY ANTHONY: Yes.
L. ANTHONY: If he is -- his best interest, too. At this moment I really don`t have anything against him but I want to make sure that you`ve realized that if you try to reach out, you may not be giving us this information.
CASEY ANTHONY: Yes. I understand that.
L. ANTHONY: He`s told us that, you know, his number one focus is you. The secondary focus is Caylee. The truth is, because it is -- it`s a business.
CASEY ANTHONY: Yes.
L. ANTHONY: The truth is, the most important thing for him, his first focus is himself. Then you, then Caylee. The police are only going to go off of whatever information gets to them. The -- I know for a fact that they have been reaching out to Mr. Baez. They have not reached out to Mr. Baez on a phone call since the 16th when you were -- when you were put under arrest.
They left two messages for Jose. Jose has never -- I`ve seen the phone records. He has never returned a phone call to the police department. Now he has written like a letter, faxed a letter over to them. Just saying that you`re willing to cooperate and things like that.
When they have reached out to him, since then, he has either not returned the phone calls or he has -- and I mean I`ve got the correspondence. I saw this yesterday and --
CASEY ANTHONY: Yes.
L. ANTHONY: I`m not trying to knock --
CASEY ANTHONY: Excuse me.
L. ANTHONY: I`m not trying to knock what he`s doing or anything like that, but I just want to make you aware of exactly what I`ve been able to confirm.
CASEY ANTHONY: Yes.
L. ANTHONY: OK. I`m not even going to get into the bond stuff right now.
CASEY ANTHONY: Yes. No.
L. ANTHONY: I know (INAUDIBLE) talking to you. How did Jose become your attorney?
CASEY ANTHONY: It just kind of happened at random in booking. I heard a couple of people talking about attorneys, things like that, and they just flat out asked me if I had anyone yet and I said no. And his name came up and I was like, well, if he`s good, can you do me a favor and pass my name along? So he came and saw me the next day. It was like immediately, right after I saw the judge so.
L. ANTHONY: So was it an inmate? Was it a corrections officer?
CASEY ANTHONY: It was an inmate and there`s three other people that confirmed it. So --
L. ANTHONY: OK. So that`s kind of how that happened then. Makes sense then. Because from what I could find out, I didn`t think he was court-appointed.
CASEY ANTHONY: No.
L. ANTHONY: What`s your honest assessment? How do you feel -- I mean, and remember, he and everybody else can watch this. So feel free to answer however you want to answer. But what`s your honest assessment?
CASEY ANTHONY: I think he`s doing whatever by any means necessary to get things done quickly as far as bond is concerned. I know I am his priority. I would like Caylee to be his focus as well but I know that I am his client and his concern is getting me out so I can help Caylee. That`s something that we`ve talked about every single time we`ve met.
L. ANTHONY: Now understand, he`s going to -- any of us are going to say that we do feel it would be in your best interest to be able to get out to help us find Caylee.
CASEY ANTHONY: Of course.
L. ANTHONY: However, I know that you know, especially now that -- you know that you can write a letter to me or to whomever that -- just like if you were out and you were able to talk to us when no one else was around?
CASEY ANTHONY: Yes. Excuse me.
L. ANTHONY: There are ways, even if you`re still in here, that we can still effectively search for Caylee no matter --
CASEY ANTHONY: Oh, yes.
L. ANTHONY: -- how comfortable or confident you feel around Jose, or the police, or anything.
CASEY ANTHONY: Yes, absolutely.
L. ANTHONY: To make sure that you`re aware of that. Do you want to talk to law enforcement?
CASEY ANTHONY: Yes and no. I mean, I know that I`m their, quote, "person of interest." So things that I`ve told them before they`ve looked at me like I`m feeding them a bunch of -- so in a lot of ways I`d rather things come from either you guys, my primary, my family, or my almost time primary at this point because Jose has been my one outlet. So it`s going to have to come from one of those avenues.
L. ANTHONY: Right. And obviously you know you have another outlet to the family. I encourage you to just realize -- you know, and again, you probably know Jose a little better than me at this point. Even though I`ve talked to him on a daily basis. But you know, that -- and I can only speak for myself on my intention and I know you know my intention.
CASEY ANTHONY: Yes.
L. ANTHONY: So the reason why I mentioned the thing about the police when you were -- when you gave your statement about, you know, dropping Caylee off with the nanny on the 9th, we know that that`s incorrect. That it was actually on the 16th.
CASEY ANTHONY: Yes. I know that.
L. ANTHONY: Or, you know, at a time after Father`s Day. Did you know that before?
CASEY ANTHONY: I`ve had a lot of time to think about it. And, yes, trust me. It came to mind.
L. ANTHONY: Right. And that`s what I figured. I figured you knew it after you gave your statement and you haven`t been able to reach out to law enforcement since you`ve made your statement to correct any of the statements like that. Is that correct?
CASEY ANTHONY: That`s correct.
L. ANTHONY: So wouldn`t you agree that it would be in your best interest and Caylee`s best interest to be able to give the police the active information so that they can either --
CASEY ANTHONY: Yes, but, at the same time, they`ve misconstrued things that I have said, put words in my mouth, so that there were things that I had specifically said that I never said.
So I would rather do that in the form of a letter to the detectives themselves. Specifically. So they have that written proof and there is no saying that I said anything, you know, whatever. I`m not going to deal with that anymore.
L. ANTHONY: Yes, if you do all this on your own without anybody else being made aware, that way, nobody can -- Jose can`t -- only gave them one page of it.
(END OF VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: Next, stunning jailhouse videotapes. Brother Lee confronts his sister, tot mom, Casey Anthony.
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GRACE: Brother Lee and tot mom Casey Anthony`s jailhouse visits, caught on tape. Brother and sister having a heart to heart discuss about the family`s determination to find Caylee. But little did the Anthonys know, tot mom already knows Caylee is dead. Later claiming at her murder one trial that the 2-year-old drowned that day in the family pool.
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L. ANTHONY: What I came to do is speak to my own focus.
CASEY ANTHONY: Yes.
L. ANTHONY: What I can tell you is my number one focus is on Caylee.
CASEY ANTHONY: Yes.
L. ANTHONY: My second focus is you.
CINDY ANTHONY: Yes.
L. ANTHONY: My third is mom. Then dad, then me.
CASEY ANTHONY: Yes.
L. ANTHONY: OK. So I want to make sure I don`t give a (EXPLETIVE DELETED) about Baez. I don`t give a (EXPLETIVE DELETED). I need you to tell me if my focus should be anything different than that, if anybody`s priority should be in a different order or if I should have anybody else in there at all.
CASEY ANTHONY: No. I think your priorities are where they should be and that`s exactly where mine are. So honestly, I`ll stay here as long as I have to. My only concern is Caylee. No one has once said anything for me, voiced that I love my daughter, that I want her safety. And that she and the rest of our family is my only concern.
L. ANTHONY: I`m writing this down. This is literally going to be a quote.
CASEY ANTHONY: All I want is to see her again, to hear her laugh, to see her smile and to just be with our family. Nothing else matters to me at this point.
L. ANTHONY: Understand that we all feel that way, every one of us. OK?
CASEY ANTHONY: I know, but, again, they`ve been hearing that from you, from her uncle, from her grandparents, not from her mother.
(END OF VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: Let`s stop and remember Army Corporal Marcus Doggy Kaine, 20, Crowley, Louisiana, killed Iraq. Awarded the Purple Heart. From a family currently serving the Army. With a smile that lit up a room. Never met a stranger, loved music and Cadillacs.
Dreamed of buying an Escalade and starting his own Web page. Leaves behind parents Benny and Leroy, Leroy III, sisters, Laurie, Jane, Jody.
Marcus Cain, American hero.
Get well tonight to Carol Thornsbury.
Carol, we love you. We love your son. And we want you to stay strong.
Everyone, please join us tomorrow night for part two of tot mom Casey Anthony behind bars, raw and uncensored. As the clock ticks down for tot mom`s release, we intend to see the case through until the end.
I will see you tomorrow night, 8:00 sharp Eastern, and until then, good night, friend.
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