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Incredible Hulk`s Wife Accuses Cosby; Search for Christina Morris
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NANCY GRACE, HOST: Breaking news tonight. He`s known as America`s dad, but comedian Bill Cosby now accused of multiple sex assaults. A new and
very high-profile reality star comes forward to say, Cosby raped me. How many women are we to disbelieve? Are they all lying and Cosby`s the only
one telling the truth?
Bombshell tonight. In the last hours, the married wife of the Incredible Hulk, Lou Ferrigno, comes forward to reveal claims Cosby tried to assault
her, as well.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: As more women step forward accusing the comic of sexual assault...
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I didn`t even want to look at him. And he was like, No, nothing ever happened (INAUDIBLE)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: NBC kills an upcoming project with Cosby. TVLand pulls reruns of the Cosby show. Netflix shelves a Cosby special that was
set to air next week.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He grabbed me, pulled me, like, really tight to him, kisses me in the mouth, like, really, really rough. And I -- you know, I
was a tough girl.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: And to Plano, Texas, 23 Christina Morris vanishes from a high-end luxury retail shopping mall. As grainy surveillance video emerges,
breaking now, police searching a densely wooded area for the body of Christina Morris, last seen in this upscale mall parking deck.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Crews searched another day, turned over earth, but nothing.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Seen walking into the parking garage.
We walked, and we split. I honestly didn`t see anything.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We`re going to find you, and we`re not going to give up.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: Good evening. I`m Nancy Grace. I want to thank you for being with us.
Bombshell tonight. He`s known as America`s dad, but comedian Bill Cosby now accused of multiple sex assaults. A new and very high-profile reality
star comes forward to say, Bill Cosby raped me. How many women are we to disbelieve? Are they all lying, and Cosby`s the only one telling the
truth?
Well, in the last hours, the married wife of the Incredible Hulk, Lou Ferrigno, comes forward to reveal claims Bill Cosby tried to assault her,
as well. This is a bombshell claim because Ferrigno`s wife -- we all know the Incredible Hulk, Lou Ferrigno -- Ferrigno`s wife -- happily married,
this couple, for years and years -- has nothing to gain out of coming forward.
In fact, as you will soon hear, she didn`t even tell her own husband, the Incredible Hulk, that this incident had occurred. She did not want him
angry or upset over it. But when all of these women start coming forward, she comes forward, too.
Joining me right now, Brian Stelter, CNN senior media correspondent. Brian, this is pretty incredible.
BRIAN STELTER, HOST, CNN`S "RELIABLE SOURCES": It sure is, Nancy. It`s as if every single day, there`s a new woman that comes forward and tells her
story.
I`ve got to say, I`ve been really impressed and really struck by the bravery of these women. It`s not easy to sit in front of these cameras or
even to get on the phone and talk about what these women say is one of the worst experiences of their lives, but we keep hearing it over and over
again.
GRACE: Well, another thing, Brian Stelter, is that, having dealt with so many rape victims, they don`t want to talk about it. It`s like tearing off
a scab and reopening a horrible wound to have to live through it again. Very often, rape victims would tell me during trial it was like it happened
all over again, and they would have nightmares and wake up in the middle of the night, thinking it had just happened all over again. It`s, like,
asking for trouble to have to relive the whole thing.
And then, as we were told last night by one of these ladies, everyone wants to know, Well, why is she doing this? What`s in it for her? What does she
want, money, fame, notoriety?
To Candace Trunzo joining, senior news editor of Mailonline.com. Candace, what is the Incredible Hulk`s wife saying?
CANDACE TRUNZO, MAILONLINE.COM (via telephone): This is Camille (sic) Ferrigno. And she spoke to us today, and she told us that when she was in
her late teens, Camille (sic) was actually a Playboy -- a Playboy model. And she was coming back into LAX, and she met up with this guy who thought
that she was...
GRACE: I thought she was a bunny. I thought she was a bunny.
TRUNZO: Oh, yes, I`m sorry. Camille (sic) was a Playboy bunny. And she was arriving at LAX and met up with this guy. He kind of picked her up,
and she was used to that because she was so stunning. They went out on a date, and after that date, he said, You know, I`d like you to meet my
friend, Bill Cosby, and they went on a double date. This is Bill and his wife, Camille, and Carla and this gentleman. They went out, and after they
went to the movies, Bill invited them all back to the house.
So Camille was there, and they decided to play pool. After they were playing pool, Camille retired. All of a sudden, she wasn`t there anymore,
and Carla asked, you know...
GRACE: Wa-wait. Whoa, whoa, whoa, wait! Hold on! Candace -- Candace Trunzo, let me get this straight. Candace Trunzo and Brian Stelter with
us.
Everybody, you`ve been watching video of Lou Ferrigno on the original "Incredible Hulk" TV series from Universal TV CBS. Now, let me assure you
this incident, where Ferrigno`s wife, Carla, says she was assaulted by Bill Cosby, as well -- this happened before she married Ferrigno. And she kept
it a secret for many, many years and didn`t even tell Ferrigno. She finally did and now has come forward.
Candace, what I was going to ask you is this. So you`re saying that Cosby`s wife, Camille Cosby, was home. So the four of them -- Ferrigno`s
wife, Carla, her friend or boyfriend that she had been going out with, Bill Cosby...
(CROSSTALK)
TRUNZO: She wasn`t going out with him. This is a guy who (INAUDIBLE)
GRACE: Right. I understand they had a date. They had a date.
TRUNZO: Right. Right. Exactly.
GRACE: So the four of them go out to the movie. They have a good time. Cosby`s idea was to go to a movie. They go to a movie. They get popcorn.
They have fun. They laugh. Then Cosby invites them back to his place to play pool. Camille is there, the wife.
Now, you`re saying Camille goes to sleep. She goes away, right?
TRUNZO: Right. She goes away.
GRACE: Where does the date go? Where`s the -- I`m saying boyfriend, but the date -- where did he go?
TRUNZO: Right. All of a sudden, the date disappears, too. And then Cosby was on top of her. That`s what she says happened. He was so violent,
grabbed her violently and began to kiss her.
Now, as a Playboy bunny, she kind of knew the score, and she pushed him away and she wasn`t having it at all. So she was one of the victims who
was able to push Cosby away and not have him take advantage of her the way others have.
GRACE: Well, there`s another -- another factor there. Brian Stelter, you heard Candace Trunzo recount what the Incredible Hulk`s wife says about
Cosby. Here`s the kicker, Brian Stelter. She didn`t drink alcohol. She still to this day, Ferrigno`s wife, is a teetotaler. So she never got the
drink.
Remember, Ms. Tarshis told me last night that Bill Cosby always made her a special drink. They were working friends. It was a Bloody Mary with beer
on top. He called it a Red Eye, I think. And she drank that drink, and all of a sudden, she`s just groggy. That`s the same story all these women
tell. Janice Dickinson, all of these women say the same thing.
This lady abstained. She didn`t drink. So she never had a drink. She never got groggy. So she was able, according to her, to push Cosby off.
STELTER: Well, and that is the difference in her story versus all the others, the role of a drug or and alcoholic product, and then the outcome,
as well, of what they say happened to them. You`re either supposed to believe Cosby in his denials and no comments, or all of these women that
tell remarkably similar stories.
Nancy, I think that`s why this story has really resonated with people in the past week. It`s because of the uncanny similarities, except, as you`re
identifying this one difference in this case.
GRACE: Well, you know, another thing, Brian Stelter. Everybody threw eggs at Janice Dickinson, the original supermodel, yesterday when she came
forward, saying, Oh, she`ll do anything for notoriety. She`ll do anything for PR.
But you know what? I`ve never heard of her making a claim like this to get PR. There are a lot of ways to get publicity...
STELTER: There are. That`s a good point.
GRACE: ... versus claiming somebody, a TV icon, raped you, for Pete`s sake.
We have reached out repeatedly to Bill Cosby`s lawyers to address these new allegations by the Incredible Hulk`s wife, Carla Ferrigno. They have not
returned our calls.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I just took my hands and I pushed him away, and I said, What are you doing? And he said -- he started coming toward me, and
I said, Hey! I said -- I said -- he said, What`s wrong? And I said, Well, I`ve never been kissed by a black man before. And he said, How was it?
And I said, It`s no different.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: OK., Candace Trunzo, back to the Incredible Hulk`s wife, Carla. Why did she not tell her husband, Ferrigno? Why is she coming forward now?
TRUNZO: Well, she`s coming forward now because she`s in solidarity with all of the other women who have come forward. And she feels that this is
her time to say her piece and be out there, even though Lou Ferrigno, her husband, the Hulk, did not want her to come forward when she finally told
him what had happened.
But she was -- you know, once she got married, she knew that Lou was very jealous. She felt that it wouldn`t serve her to bring it up and have Lou -
- have any repercussions on the part of her husband. So she kept it inside. And you know, just as with your guest yesterday, it ate her up,
the way it`s eaten up all of these women who are coming forward now to vent and tell their story.
GRACE: Everyone, we are taking your calls on a story that has turned into a seminal issue regarding rape, regarding unreported assaults. You`re
seeing video right now of Lou Ferrigno on the original "Incredible Hulk" TV series from Universal TV CBS. His wife, married decades now, has now come
forward claiming Cosby attempted to assault her, as well, grabbed her, forcibly kissed her, was trying to make out with her.
She, unlike the other ladies who accepted a drink, according to them, from Cosby, was not groggy. This lady is a teetotaler. So she had the
wherewithal to push him off and run out.
Back to you, Brian Stelter. According to Ferrigno`s wife, Carla, what happened to the date? Did he just conveniently disappear?
STELTER: You know, I don`t think I`ve heard an answer to that question, Nancy. I think -- she has been telling her story, and I don`t know if she
knows all those answers.
GRACE: What`s word on that, Candace Trunzo?
TRUNZO: He disappeared somewhere in the house because by the time Bill had tried to assault her and she wanted out of there, he reappeared and he
drove her home. So he was lurking somewhere in that house, and so was Camille Cosby.
GRACE: You know, Michael Christian, also on the story, the Incredible Hulk`s wife now says that she believes this date that met her at the
airport and said, Hey, you want to go to my friend Bill Cosby`s house -- she now believes that he was working with Cosby to find prospective women.
MICHAEL CHRISTIAN, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER (via telephone): That`s what she told CNN. She said she thinks he was an enabler who went out and found
pretty girls for Cosby and that that was his job, to set them up with Bill Cosby.
GRACE: Everybody, Cosby has basically commented on this. There was an AP interview where Cosby spoke very briefly when he was asked about similar
allegations. And I want you to hear what happened.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
BILL COSBY, COMEDIAN: Now, can I get something from you...
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What`s that?
COSBY: ... that none of that will be shown?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I can`t promise that myself, but you didn`t say anything...
COSBY: I know I didn`t say anything, but I`m asking your integrity that since I didn`t want to say anything, but I did answer you in terms of I
don`t want to say anything, of what value will it have?
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: There you see Bill Cosby talking to Associated Press back on November 6th after Cosby refuses to address sex assault allegations. When
the interview concludes with AP, Cosby asks that that question about the sex assaults be buried, never to be published.
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(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I woke up naked in his bed, with him next to me.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you have any response to those charges? You`re shaking your head.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I started to ask questions, or I would get, you know, the confusion from the drugs, and I`d be asking questions. He`d say, Well,
you were drunk.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: Welcome back. In the last hours, yet another high-profile woman has come forward claiming that America`s dad, Bill Cosby, sexually molested
her as well, tried to assault her. Let me be clear. The Incredible Hulk - - we all know Lou Ferrigno. This is his wife, Carla. Carla has come forward now in the wake of many women coming forward claiming Cosby raped
them and/or molested them. And she has made her story public.
This on the heels of a high-profile TV reality star coming forward. Take a listen.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I don`t remember fighting him off. I just remember, What the (EXPLETIVE DELETED) is going on? This is one of the biggest
regrets and resentments throughout the course of my life.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Sitting right here, what would you say to Bill Cosby?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I would say to you, Bill, How dare you? Go (EXPLETIVE DELETED) yourself!
After dinner, in my room, he`d given me wine and a pill. And the next morning, I woke up, and I wasn`t wearing my pajamas. And I remember before
I passed out that I had been sexually assaulted by this man.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: That is a reality TV star who has dubbed herself the original supermodel, Janice Dickinson, on "Entertainment Tonight" from CBS TV
Distribution, who came forward. Now, she was attacked because she wrote a memoir, a book about the industry and about herself, called "No Lifeguard
on Duty," and she talks about a date or getting together with Cosby. She did not mention the alleged attack.
She says now that Cosby`s people pressured her to leave that out of her book, and she did so.
Joining me right now is a special guest, Joan Tarshis. Ms. Tarshis revealed that Cosby sexually assaulted her when she was a very young girl
just breaking into the comedy scene. Joan, thank you for being with us.
JOAN TARSHIS, CLAIMS COSBY ASSAULTED HER (via telephone): Thank you, Nancy.
GRACE: Joan, what do you make of the Incredible Hulk`s wife, Carla Ferrigno, now coming forward?
TARSHIS: Oh, I think it`s -- I think it`s really wonderful that everybody is being supportive and everybody is really confirming all the women that
have gone before them that so courageously stood up and spoke out on their own. And now we`re here to support them, and she`s supporting me.
And I spoke to Barbara on the phone today for the first time. And it was very cathartic to speak to someone who was -- went through much worse than
happened to me, but somebody that understood, who`s stood in my shoes, in other words. She was great for (ph) her (ph), and she`s offered me her
support. She told me to call her any time I needed to talk about this with somebody.
GRACE: You are referring to Barbara Bowman, who also claimed Cosby molested her, as well, correct?
TARSHIS: Correct.
GRACE: Unleash the lawyers. Joining me, Robert Schalk out of New York and Shireen Hormozdi out of Atlanta. Robert Schalk, what do you make of it?
ROBERT SCHALK, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Well, obviously, the allegations are disturbing, Nancy, but again, these allegations, sometimes some of them go
back 30, 40 years. And other than these women coming forward -- which, obviously, you respect that decision to come forward -- if anything were to
come from this criminally, civilly, I don`t think (ph) how they`re going be able to do it. You have to able to substantiate these claims. And were
they reported to anybody else? Did they tell any family members? Janice Dickinson...
GRACE: Whoa! Who-whoa! Wa-wait! Hold on, Schalk. Many, many decades ago, that used to be the law, that rape cases had to have substantiation.
And what I mean by that is, unlike, say, an armed robbery or a murder or a burglary or car theft, a rape victim, a lady rape victim, had to
corroborate her story. Unlike every other crime in the criminal code book, only rape victims, under the law, had to corroborate a rape claim.
There had to be torn clothes. There had to be bruises. You had to show you put up a fight and you were beaten, missing teeth, blood. A rape
victim, a lady rape victim, unlike any other crime victim known, had to present corroboration before a rape claim could go forward. That is no
longer the law.
SCHALK: No, I`m not saying that...
GRACE: You don`t have to have corroboration...
(CROSSTALK)
SCHALK: I`m saying for purposes of the statute of limitations, none of these claims are ever going to move forward because they`re -- because of
the dated material and the statute of limitations...
(CROSSTALK)
GRACE: Well, corroboration wouldn`t matter to the statute of limitations, Shireen Hormozdi. I mean, the statute either runs or it doesn`t run,
whether you need corroboration or not. And the criminal statutes in almost every one of these jurisdictions has run. So what do you make of the
claim, Shireen?
SHIREEN HORMOZDI, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Well, they can`t do anything in the justice system, so the only justice they`re getting is publicly humiliating
him, and hopefully, deterring him from ever doing it again, which is...
GRACE: Did you just say the only justice they`re getting is publicly humiliating Bill Cosby?
HORMOZDI: And deterring him from ever doing it again.
GRACE: Joan Tarshis, what do you make of that? Did you come forward to publicly humiliate Bill Cosby? I don`t think so.
TARSHIS: I came forward mainly because I think probably when somebody is a predator like Mr. Cosby, that he can probably still be finding other
victims. And hopefully, we can prevent other women from falling into the same trap that we fell into.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This increasing firestorm surrounding Cosby, more women speaking out.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Career renaissance he was experiencing has now been put on hold.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: In a sense, he had the cachet and the capacity to use his persona on television in particular, the good guy who couldn`t possibly
be guilty of these things.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What`s raising people`s suspicions about actual guilt has to do with the number of women that have come out with pretty much
exactly the same story.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I was horrified. This was a man I had respected and loved as an entertainer.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: Welcome back, everyone. Now even more claims of a sexual nature against America`s dad, Bill Cosby. On the heels of reality star Janice
Dickinson, America`s first supermodel, as she dubs herself, coming forward with her story of being drugged and molested by Cosby, now the Incredible
Hulk`s wife, a married wife of Lou Ferrigno, comes forward to claim and to tell the story of when she was younger, just before her marriage, , where
Cosby forcibly grabbed her and tried to molest her.
Unlike the other ladies who had accepted a drink from Cosby, she`s teetotaler, and she fought back.
Carla Ferrigno, now comes forward with her story.
For those of you just joining us, Candace Trunzo with us from MailOnline and Brian Stelter, CNN senior media correspondent.
Candace, what is her story?
TRUNZO: Carla was a "Playboy" bunny. Very attractive. She went out on a date with a guy and after the first date, he said you have to meet my
friend Bill Cosby. What followed, she went out with Bill and Bill`s wife Camille, with this date. They had a great time, went to the movies, and
then Bill invited them back to his house.
They started playing pool. Before she knew it, Bill`s wife Camille was absent. She left, she went somewhere else in the house. And then minutes
later, her date left as well. And that`s when Bill Cosby, she claims, started to pounce on her.
GRACE: Everyone, with us, Candace Trunzo and Brian Stelter.
Right now listen to the Incredible Hulk`s wife, Carla Ferrigno, from her own mouth, her own words.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
CARLA FERRIGNO, WIFE OF LOU FERRIGNO: So we`re playing a game of pool. And he wins. And I said, where did my friend go, or whatever his name was.
I don`t even remember now. But he said -- I said where did he go? And he goes, oh, I don`t know. He`s probably in the bathroom or something.
I had the pool -- the pool -- you know, the pool stick in my hand. He walks over to me and grabbed me. I thought he was just going to take it
out of my hand. He grabbed me, pulls me like really tight to him, kisses me in the mouth, like really, really rough. And I, you know, I was a tough
girl. I just took my hands, and I pushed him away, and I said what are you doing? And he said -- and he started coming towards me, and I said hey, I
said, I said, he said what`s wrong?
And I said, well, I`ve never been kissed by a black man before, and he said how was it? And I said, it`s no different. And he said oh, yes? You
wouldn`t have said that if it weren`t different. And then he came at me again, and I just pushed and ran and jumped. I got out of his way, ran
down the hall, and this guy was coming out of one of the rooms, and I said, I want to go home, and he took me -- he took me home.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
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GRACE: Welcome back.
In the wake of a TV reality star Janice Dickinson who dubs herself the original supermodel coming forward with the claims that Bill Cosby raped
her after drugging her, now the wife of Incredible Hulk, Lou Ferrigno, Carla Ferrigno, longtime wife of Lou Ferrigno, comes forward to describe
what Cosby did to her.
We have called Cosby`s lawyers today. They have not responded.
Take a listen to what Incredible Hulk`s Wife, Carla Ferrigno, says.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
FERRIGNO: Five years ago, I started hearing these stories coming out, and I remember telling a girlfriend. She didn`t even believe me. It was so
ridiculous to her. And then this time, when I was listening to your show yesterday, I thought, you know, I was the lucky one. I was a tough girl.
I wasn`t there to get anything from him or to get -- be on a TV show or anything like that. I just wanted to get away from him.
And I realized many years later, I was thinking, I`ve thought about it ever since. I thought that man had a -- he set me up. He went there. He must
have been one of the guys that were getting girls for him, because Bill didn`t go out and just look for girls. He loved young, pretty, blond
girls, and he -- what he would do is I guess this guy would go get him girls, bring them home and then he could have their way with them.
You know what, here`s the deal. I don`t need publicity. I`ve been Lou`s manager 35 years. I have my own life. I`m very happy, but, I said to Lou,
I really need to tell someone, because I feel that bringing all of this out to -- out in the public is one, I`m one more -- one more nail in the coffin
for him that will keep him from going and doing this again to anybody else.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: We have asked and asked Cosby`s lawyers to respond to Carla Ferrigno`s claims, they have not returned the calls.
To Brian Stelter and Candace Trunzo, you know what, I can tell in her voice, Ferrigno`s wife, Carla Ferrigno, is telling the truth. She has
nothing to gain.
And you know, Stelter, when I was trying cases, I`ve told you this before. I would weigh the credibility of my witnesses before I put them up to a
jury. And if there was something wrong with them in that they -- you know, I don`t know, had a criminal history, whatever, I would tell the jury in
the opening statement, I go, look, I`m going to bring you X, Y, and Z. And this is the truth about them. But this is what they say.
So you`ve got to understand what you`re putting up in front of the jury. So in this case, when I first heard these complaints coming forward and
this latest round, like why didn`t these ladies prosecute? Why didn`t they go to police? Why are they coming forward now?
I was skeptical, not of their story but why didn`t they come forward? But when I hear this lady, in her own voice, when I hear Joan Tarshis in her
own voice, telling me what happened, and these two, Stelter, they`ve got nothing to gain. They don`t have a dog in the fight. They don`t have any
skin in the game.
BRIAN STELTER, CNN SENIOR MEDIA CORRESPONDENT: Right.
GRACE: They, in fact, what they`re going to get, they`re going to get questioned. Their reputation is going to be attacked. Their character is
going to be assassinated. They`re trying to bring down Bill Cosby. Anybody that speaks out against a TV icon -- he`s a millionaire. I mean,
that`s a tough -- that`s a tough row to hoe, as they say where I came from, to speak out against Cosby.
STELTER: Absolutely. And maybe that`s why we haven`t heard more from them in the past. It`s because so many years have gone by, Nancy, that we feel
these women don`t have anything to gain anymore. There`s not money, there`s not a criminal case to bring anymore because so many years have
gone by. Instead, as this woman has said, she wants every woman in America to hear her story. To come forward, so this sort of thing doesn`t happen
again.
That`s what she told the MailOnline. That`s what she`s told other interviewers. She wants to raise awareness of this.
GRACE: And joining me right now, Joan Tarshis, who says that Cosby sexually assaulted her.
Joan, for those that are just joining us, when you met Cosby, you were, what, 19 years old? You were very young.
TARSHIS: Yes, I was really an innocent. I was a babe. I -- somebody that I had enjoyed watching on television. I`d listened to his records. I was
starting to write comedy with -- for Godfrey Cambridge. And when he asked me to work on a monologue with him, I was thrilled. And didn`t really work
out that way. You know, when I met him for his lunches, with a lot of people in, and I just want to say this, one of the women, I`ve never shared
this before.
But one of the women that took me up there to meet him, I was always suspicious that I was set up also. So I just want to confirm what she
said, what Mrs. Ferrigno said, that I felt that I was set up also. Just thought I would say that because I`ve never heard anybody say that before.
GRACE: You know, Joan, when I was listening to Ferrigno`s wife, Carla Ferrigno, and everybody, we`re talking about the Incredible Hulk. You
don`t want to get him mad at you, all right? I mean, if you`ve seen him on TV turn into the Incredible Hulk? I mean, this guy is huge. You don`t
want to hit on his wife and then have him find out about it. This occurred just before the two of them hooked up and got married.
So for some reason, Bethany Marshall, she did not want her -- everybody, you`re seeing Ferrigno on the original "Incredible Hulk" TV series from
Universal TV CBS. You know, a lot of people are saying about her now, Bethany, well, why didn`t she tell Lou Ferrigno? Why didn`t she go public
at the time she says Cosby first grabbed her and tried to molest her?
But you know, I think she explains that very well, Bethany.
BETHANY MARSHALL, PSYCHOANALYST, AUTHOR OF "DEALBREAKERS": I think she explains it very well.
Nancy, it`s so important to understand that more than 50 percent of men who rape are what we call power rapists. So what we see is usually they have
consensual sex available. Look at Bill Cosby. There are many women he could have had sex with. But why would he drug a woman and then have sex
with her after she`s unconscious. So power rapists use sex to have power, control, authority and mastery over women.
It`s just for sexual gratification, it`s cruelty, mastery and power. So I think that one of the reasons these old allegations are coming forward --
GRACE: And, Bethany, I don`t want to portray the other ladies as being, you know, drunks, sloppy drunks. It wasn`t like that.
MARSHALL: Of course not.
GRACE: He would have -- he would offer them a drink, according to them, and we`ve reached out to his attorneys, they haven`t called back. He would
offer them one drink. And then on that, they would take it. They would start drinking it. And then immediately, one lady felt like she thought
she was dying. She couldn`t lift her arms or legs.
Everybody, in the last hours, yet another woman has come forward claiming that Bill Cosby attempted to sexually molest her. It is the wife of the
Incredible Hulk. It`s Carla Ferrigno. Take a listen to what she says.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When he tried to -- well, when you rebuffed him, what was he like? Was he angry? Was he --
FERRIGNO: Yes. He just -- he was kind of like shocked that I even did that, you know, because I just pushed as hard as I could. And the way he
said it to me when I -- I said well, because I was so upset I didn`t know where that guy was. I was like -- you know, I was stunned at first. And
then I`d never had a man kind of attack me like that before.
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GRACE: And now to Plano, Texas, 23-year-old Christina Morris vanishes from a high end luxury retail shopping mall. As grainy surveillance video
emerges, breaking now, police searching a densely wooded area for the body of Christina. Last seen in that mall parking deck.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Bring our daughter home.
UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: The search for Christina Morris.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I know that somebody knows.
UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Where she suddenly vanished from the shops at Legacy in Plano?
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GRACE: Liz, if you could keep showing that parking deck video, it may jog somebody`s memory.
We are talking about 23-year-old Christina Morris. And with me right now is her stepmother, Anna Morris.
Anna, thank you for being with us. What can you tell us about Christina?
ANNA MORRIS, STEPMOTHER OF MISSING WOMAN: She is just a bright, happy, loving, quirky, funny, wonderful young woman.
GRACE: What do you make of cops telling us that they are currently searching this densely wooded area for her? Would she ever have just
disappeared on her own?
MORRIS: Never, never. Christina is very close to her brother, her sister, to her mom, me, her dad. And in the 20 years I have raised her, none of us
have gone more than a couple of days without hearing from her.
GRACE: Everyone, won`t you please --
MORRIS: At least a text message.
GRACE: -- help us. With me tonight is Christina`s stepmother who has raised her. The tip line is 972-941-2553. There`s a $25,000 reward.
But now, CNN Hero of the Year.
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ANDERSON COOPER, CNN HOST: Ladies and gentlemen, the 2014 CNN Hero of the Year is Pen Farthing.
PEN FARTHING, CNN HERO OF THE YEAR: Wow, this is -- I am absolutely at a loss of words. This is absolutely amazing. I really would like to thank
everybody whose votes and knows about our charity and what we do in Afghanistan and believing in us.
I also would like to thank all the other heroes who are in this room for doing what they do to make this world an absolutely better place. So thank
you guys for doing what you do.
Thank you.
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GRACE: Welcome back. On the hunt, this young girl goes missing in the parking deck of an upscale mall. As we go to air, we learn police
searching a densely wooded area for her.
With me, the woman who helped raise her, her stepmother, Anna Morris. Also with me, Brittany Feagans from "Plano Star Courier."
Brittany, what do we know about the area police are currently searching?
BRITTANY FEAGANS, REPORTER, PLANO STAR COURIER: Well, the area that they`re currently search, it`s just a random area. They -- there`s not any
specific reason for them to be searching that area. They are looking in Plano, Allen and McKinney areas. But as I said they`re just doing random
searches, trying to find any sort of tip.
GRACE: CW Jensen, with me retired police captain.
CW, I -- now we`re at the point of random searches. What does that say to you?
C.W. JENSEN, RETIRED PORTLAND POLICE CAPTAIN: Well, what it says to me is, one, they have a very, very clear direction. They`ve served a search
warrant, they`re looking at a specific guy who is a liar. But investigations don`t have to have a unilateral kind of pack. So you can do
these searches.
GRACE: Right.
JENSEN: And other stuff and still continue with the investigation.
GRACE: Anna Morris, so in light of this being a random search of this wooded area, or at least that`s what police are telling us, that should
buoy hope that she may still be found alive.
MORRIS: Yes, I have tons of hope that Christina is going to come home alive.
GRACE: Anna, what are police telling you?
MORRIS: They are telling me they are investigating every tip that comes in, every clue they can. They have made her case a top priority in Plano.
GRACE: Do you know the guy that was walking her to her car?
MORRIS: I do not.
GRACE: Everyone, the tip line, Christina Morris, missing from an upscale mall parking lot. 972-941-2553.
Let`s stop and remember, American hero Navy Hospital Corpsman 1st Class Jeffrey Taylor, 30, Midway, West Virginia. Bronze Star, Purple Heart,
Combat Action Ribbon. A dedicated Navy SEAL, avid gun collector, parents John and Karen, widow Erin.
Jeffrey Taylor, American hero.
Drew up next. I`ll see you tomorrow night, 8:00 sharp Eastern. And until then, good night, friend.
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