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NANCY GRACE, HOST: Breaking news tonight, live, Leicester, North Carolina, where a gorgeous young pregnant Food Network TV star missing and
murdered?
Bombshell tonight. We analyze the clues left behind.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She competed on the hit Food Network TV show, "Next Food Network Star." But now authorities say she`s dead, Cristie
Schoen Codd, also reportedly five months pregnant.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Deputies surrounded the home with crime scene tape, combing the area, looking for clues.
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GRACE: And tonight, live, Washington County, Oregon. A gorgeous young and married jail staffer sobs hysterically after she`s accused of
repeated sex sessions in the jail with a 25-year-old accused rapist and registered sex offender -- not just sex sessions with an inmate in the
jail, sex sessions with an inmate in a jail closet. Think about it!
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: ... claimed Curry was supervising Delgado Galban`s unit when she let him out of his room, walked him to a supply
closet and had sex with him.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: ... having sex with that inmate some 13 different times. Curry`s supporters believed Delgado Galban manipulated her.
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GRACE: And tonight, the young mom of two little boys with us live, begging for the boys` return. Tonight, where are 7 and 8-year-old Jaxon
and Parker?
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This is causing damage to them. They`re outside of what they know, and they need to be brought back home to their safe
environment.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Parker and Jaxon, I want you to know that I love you, that I miss you, and I`ll never, ever stop looking for you, no matter
what!
And every -- every time I tried calling his number to try to get in touch with him, it would just go directly, as if the phone was off, to an
automated message.
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GRACE: And tonight, multi-millionaire Robert Durst, born with a silver spoon in his mouth, walks free after confessing he shoots and
dismembers his neighbor. His wife, Kathie, also disappears -- that unsolved.
After HBO airs docu-series "The Jinx" about Durst and his shenanigans, Durst arrested under an assumed name, hiding in New Orleans hotel, but not
for the murder of his neighbor or for the disappearance of his wife, Kathie, Durst now the prime suspect in the murder of long-time friend Susan
Berman. Many believe she helped Durst dispose of his wife`s body.
Are LA prosecutors seeking the death penalty? And how has Durst escaped justice so long? Maybe because of his $100 million bank account?
In the last hours, FBI swoop down on his luxury apartment in Houston. Police now think he may be connected to two more murders.
Good evening. I`m Nancy Grace. I want to thank you for being with us.
Bombshell tonight. To Leicester, North Carolina. A gorgeous young pregnant Food Network TV star missing and murdered? We`re analyzing the
clues left behind.
Let`s start off with seeing her on the Food Network channel for anybody that recognizes her face. Right now, it`s believed that Cristie
Schoen missing and murdered. But why? You`re seeing video from "Food Network Star" from Food Network.
Straight out to Mark Starling, news director with WWNC. Mark, tell me, this woman, the "Food Network Star," Cristie Schoen, five months
pregnant, missing. Has her body been found?
MARK STARLING, WWNC (via telephone): As far as we know, there have been no bodies found.
GRACE: No bodies found. Well, what about her husband? Has his body been found?
STARLING: His body has not been found, either.
GRACE: OK. When did she go missing? What are the circumstances of the "Food Network Star" going missing? What do we know?
STARLING: Well, we know that her father had called a friend to tell them that he -- he hadn`t heard from them, and he`s a little concerned and
wondered if she would go and check on them. This woman had keys. She`d taken care of the house prior. And so she went over and she said she knew
something was wrong right away. And that was Sunday, March 15th.
[20:05:02]GRACE: Well, wa-wait. Well, hold on right there. Mark Starling joining us, news director at WWNC. Mark, how did they know
immediately something was wrong? Wasn`t the dog in the home, and she would not have left the dog not being fed or not being taken care of?
STARLING: Right. As soon as they -- you know, as soon as they went in, there was, you know, dog urine and feces, and obviously, the smell was
the first thing to hit them. And they knew right then something was not right because that`s just not the way they would care for their animals.
GRACE: Everybody, you`re seeing video from Food Network, star (ph) dust (ph) from the Food Network. And there you see right there Cristie
Schoen. There she`s showing many of her recipes on the Food Network. This is "Food Network Star" Cristie Schoen, five months pregnant, has gone
missing and we believe murdered, although cops aren`t telling us why they believe she`s been murdered. We know very, very little about it at all.
Mark Starling with us there in Asheville with WWNC. Mark, again, thank you for being with us. So we don`t have a body. We know that she
hasn`t been in the home, nor has her husband. Can we confirm that she`s five months pregnant, Mark Starling?
STARLING: That has been confirmed. It is confirmed that she is five months pregnant.
GRACE: You`re seeing inside their mountain lodge that they had.
Mark, what more was out of order in the home? What do we know?
STARLING: Well, you know, obviously, you know, the pets being there. That was the biggest giveaway right there that something was wrong. Again,
you know, by all descriptions from neighbors and friends, they were absolutely one of the nicest couples you could ever ask to meet. So this
was just something that was totally, totally out of character for them.
You know, their cars were still there. You know, obviously, that`s, you know, number two big sign right there something is wrong.
GRACE: (INAUDIBLE) right.
STARLING: They`re nowhere to be found, and their cars are there.
GRACE: Cars still there. Dogs -- I`m making a note of everything we know. Everybody, you`re seeing video from "Food Network Star." That`s
from the Food Network. At this hour, trying to piece together the puzzle of the missing Food Network TV star Cristie Schoen, and her husband gone,
too, both cars parked at their mountain retreat. She`s five months pregnant. The dogs have been left unattended. When police got there, the
home smelled of dog feces. They hadn`t been fed. They hadn`t been let out of the house. We don`t know how long.
OK, to Clark Goldband. What more is suspicious? And I`m wondering why has this labeled a possible murder, when we don`t have a body of her or
her husband.
CLARK GOLDBAND, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER (via telephone): Great question, Nancy. I`ll tell you why I think law enforcement and why family thought
this was suspicious at the outset. These two both have jobs working in the Hollywood film industry, and both were apparently supposed to report to
their jobs. And it was very unlike either of them not to show up.
That`s when the red flags went up. Family asked a friend to go check on them in the house. And once the friend told this woman`s father what
she found, the feces all over the house from the dogs, the urine all over the house from the dogs, the cars both remaining at the home, that`s when
the red flags were sounded.
GRACE: OK, another thing. C.W. Jensen, retired police captain, joining me out of Cave Creek, Arizona, where would you go with this? What
do you do? We know she`s gone. We know the husband`s gone. She`s five months pregnant. What do you do now?
C.W. JENSEN, RETIRED POLICE CAPTAIN (via telephone): Well, of course, the investigators are not releasing everything because there`s certainly a
lot to go on. They`re saying that the house was in disrepair, based on the neighbor going over. But certainly, once they go in and they start doing
their forensic examination for DNA...
GRACE: Hey, C.W., hold on just a moment. I`m getting information that cops have zeroed in on a potential suspect. He did home repairs in
her home.
Mark Starling, news director, WWNC, what can you tell me about Joseph -- excuse me -- about Robert Jason Owens?
STARLING: Well, he has a very interesting past, to say the least. He`s no stranger to the law. He`s no stranger to jail. He spent about a
grand total of about -- looks like about 23 months in jail between 2002 and 2009 for different things. So most of it, though, seems to be impaired
driving, eluding arrest...
GRACE: Well, wait a minute. What`s his connection to a Food Network star?
STARLING: Well, he lived just less than a mile up the road. He had also been hired by the couple as a handyman to kind of do repair work
around the retreat. So you know, there was that.
[20:10:03]And the woman that actually went to check on the house that realized that, Hey, something is not right here -- that`s Robert Jason
Owens`s aunt, who...
GRACE: OK...
STARLING: ... she wasn`t really willing...
GRACE: Look at this guy. Look at this guy right here. A break in the case is pointing to Robert Jason Owens, a 36-year-old construction
worker who worked at times for the couple, for the "Food Network Star," there on their mountain getaway home. They were redoing it, remodeling it,
turning it into a vacation retreat. She`s five months pregnant. They`re trying to get the work done before the baby comes, right in the middle of
the beautiful Asheville, North Carolina, mountain range.
Isn`t this guy -- hasn`t he, Mark Starling, been connected to another criminal case, a missing or murdered teen?
STARLING: Yes, and this was from back in 2000, the Zebb Quinn case, you know, and Asheville Police Department is still continuing to look for
leads in that case. And that -- you know, and this was the case of a teenager at the time who was -- you know, he`d gotten off work from Walmart
at night and had planned to go with Owens to take a look at the car that was for sale, you know, and the next thing you know, he shows up missing.
GRACE: Was his body ever found?
STARLING: There`s been nothing found. Essentially, they found his car.
GRACE: OK, yes, I don`t like where this is going, Mark Starling. The kid, Quinn, goes to look at a used car with this guy, Robert Jason Owens.
He`s never seen alive again. Now Cristie Schoen and her husband, J.T. Codd, they have this guy doing construction on their home. Now they`re
missing and they haven`t been seen.
There`s another disturbing fact, Mark Starling. The neighbors of this guy, Robert Jason Owens, say the night, around the time that the "Food
Network Star" goes missing, he`s up all night long burning something in his back yard?
STARLING: Yes. He was actually tending to, you know, what they`re calling a burn pile. You know, it`s not uncommon in this part of the
country for folks to burn off their brush or burn off some trash or whatever it might be. But it`s generally uncommon for it to be going on in
the middle of the night.
GRACE: You`re seeing right now from Cajun Meister (ph) on YouTube. We`ve also been showing you video from Food Network. There`s a Food
Network TV star missing, believed to be murdered. And now implicated, the man doing construction work on her mountain getaway she`s building with her
husband.
You`re seeing that video from "Food Network Star" from Food Network.
Matt Zarrell`s in my ear. Matt, what are you saying that sheriff will or will not confirm?
MATT ZARRELL, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER: The sheriff will not confirm the report about the burning.
GRACE: Sheriff will not confirm the report about the burning. We`re getting that from neighbors.
OK, so Dr. Michelle DuPre, forensic pathologist -- Dr. DuPre, if he tended his fire in his back yard all night long, could he burn the
evidence? Is it possible to burn human bones to the point that they are...
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GRACE: ... ashes?
DR. MICHELLE DUPRE, FORENSIC PATHOLOGIST: No, Nancy, not all of it. There will be some evidence found. A fire like that in the back yard does
not get hot enough.
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[20:17:26]GRACE: Live to Washington County, Oregon. A gorgeous young and married jail staffer sobs hysterically after she`s accused of repeat
sex sessions in the jail with a 25-year-old accused rapist and registered sex offender. Now, it`s not just sex sessions with an inmate in the jail,
it`s sex sessions with an inmate in a jail closet. Think about it.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Curry is one of two Washington County jail workers arrested for having sexual encounter with inmate Jang-Li Delgado
Galban while he was locked up in jail. Curry`s letter goes on to talk about how her marriage was falling apart at the time. She was depressed
and riddled with anxiety.
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GRACE: To Frank Morano, radio talk show host joining me on AM 970, "The Answer." Frank, thank you for being with us. It`s not just this one
jail staffer. There`s also another female deputy that had sex with the same inmate. There`s two of them, OK? This one, Jill Curry, breaks down
sobbing hysterically -- there she is in court. That`s before the waterworks. And there they are. That was Brett Robinson -- over sex with
this registered sex offender and accused rapist?
Now, a lot of you may be laughing into your fist. Out to Frank Morano with "The Answer." Frank Morano, thank you for being with us. Let me
understand what`s happening here. So this woman, a married woman -- I understand she is married to a sheriff`s deputy. She`s got children. She
unlocks multiple doors. This is a maximum security facility. She unlocks multiple doors so she can get it on in a supply closet with a registered
sex offender?
Help me out, Frank. A lot of people are arguing she should not be prosecuted.
FRANK MORANO, RADIO TALK SHOW HOST "THE ANSWER" (via telephone): Anybody that`s arguing she should not be prosecuted needs to be
institutionalized. I mean, maybe it was the dollar sign tattoo on this 25- year-old gang member`s neck which made him irresistible.
But think of what went on here. She let this man, who`s a maximum security convicted sex offender, out of his cell in order for her to be the
only person supervising him at least 13 different times. He`s admitted to what`s happened here. She`s admitted to what`s happened here.
[20:20:03]And the only unbelievable part of the story is that Oregon is one of only two states where this is a felony. This is crazy!
GRACE: You know, another thing -- let`s unleash the lawyers. Joining me, Peter Odom out of Washington, Jeff Gold out of New York. Jeff Gold,
give me one reason...
JEFF GOLD, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Look, Nancy...
GRACE: ... that she should not be prosecuted. She unlocked multiple doors in a maximum security facility full of murderers, rapists, child
molesters, drug lords. She opens the doors so she can go have sex in a supply closet!
GOLD: OK, great. So she`s prosecuted. But should she go to prison for this? Look, this is a rapist that did this to her, somebody that is
used to probably grooming people, not just a guy who jumps out of the bushes. He`s probably been used to it, and he did it to two of them, two
blond girls that he probably picked up...
GRACE: Put him up.
GOLD: ... out from a group. I`m just saying give her a break. I`m not saying...
GRACE: You know what? Stop!
GOLD: ... you don`t prosecute her...
GRACE: Stop, stop, stop, stop!
GOLD: ... but should she go to prison?
GRACE: OK, stop the train. All right, she -- he did not pick her up, Peter Odom. She says that their relationship, Peter, started when they
would talk over the jail intercom, and it quickly turned into sex talk. OK, let me...
PETER ODOM, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Well, this was...
GRACE: ... just get my mind...
ODOM: This was consensual behavior.
GRACE: Hold on, please. Cut his mike until I can finish. So they start talking over the jail intercom. Now, how does that turn into sex
chatter, Peter Odom?
ODOM: Maybe she should be disciplined, you know, by the personnel board. But this was consensual behavior. There`s no victim here. There`s
no crime here.
GRACE: I agree it was consensual.
ODOM: Come on.
GRACE: But what about the fact that she unlocked multiple doors in a maximum security facility so she could go -- you know what? I think we
need a shrink. I respect you, Peter Odom. I respect you, Jeff Gold.
Caryn Stark, psychologist, joining me. Caryn, please, put it in a nutshell for me.
CARYN STARK, PSYCHOLOGIST: Nancy...
GRACE: It`s not just sex. It`s not just sex, all right? You can get that anywhere. But why does she have to unlock multiple doors in a maximum
security facility to go have sex with a convicted felon, an accused rapist, a registered sex offender, in the closet? Have you ever been in a maximum
facility jail? I hope the answer is no.
STARK: No.
GRACE: Because do you know how badly they stink? Let me tell you, Caryn, it stinks! So this woman, who`s married with children -- that`s a
whole `nother can of worms -- goes and has sex in a stinky jail closet with this perv?
STARK: Well, Nancy, even more than that is the fact that this is not -- her job is to make sure that she doesn`t engage with them, and that in a
way, she protects them. She`s in a position of authority, right? So here she is, and she`s in a position of authority in a way taking advantage of
an inmate, even though he may have come on to her.
GRACE: Oh, please don`t take -- please don`t take up for the convicted -- the convicted registered sex offender. Please, Caryn! Please
don`t do that!
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[20:26:50]UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Claimed Curry was supervising Delgado Galban`s unit when she let him out of his room, walked him to a supply
closet and had sex with him, having sex with that inmate some 13 different times.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Curry`s supporters believe Delgado Galban manipulated her.
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GRACE: OK, wait a minute. OK, 13 sex sessions, that we know of, between the lady jailer and a registered sex offender and accused rapist
and convicted felon -- that`s him -- believed to be in a gang, Jang-Li Delgado Galban.
OK, Matt Zarrell, how did it go? And there`s ladies, one -- I think they`re both married. We`ve got two women accused, one is a female
sheriff`s deputy, one is this lady jailer. Matt, what is going on in Oregon jails?
ZARRELL: Yes, what happened was, is that, apparently, after a few months, Curry claims that he began talking to the jailer like he was the
boyfriend, expressed how much he liked her. And then he...
GRACE: Wait, wait, wait! Stop, stop, stop. Matt, Matt, Matt, Matt, it doesn`t matter what he was doing. Her job is to hang up. If he starts
talking like a boyfriend, then she needs to hang up. Why couldn`t she just hang up the intercom?
ZARRELL: Well, I guess what happened was, after reading poems and singing songs...
GRACE: Stop! Stop. Did you just say that this registered sex offender read her poems and sang her songs before they had sex in the
supply closet at the jail?
ZARRELL: Yes.
GRACE: Go ahead, please.
ZARRELL: OK, so then Curry, the jailer, begins opening up about her own life and her family. And then one day, the inmate stands outside in
front of his cell door, naked, exposing himself. And I guess that was the signal that they should go have sex.
GRACE: OK, hold on. I`m just trying to soak all that in. All right, Frank Morano, talk show host on "The Answer" -- so he comes out of his cell
buck naked, and the married female sheriff is moved to go have sex in the closet -- not just one, but two of them, Frank? Of course, they should be
prosecuted for compromising the security in a maximum security facility!
MORANO: No doubt about it. I mean, think of all the other deputies she was putting at risk here by letting this hardened criminal out of his
cell, supervised only by her. This wasn`t some spur of the moment, I can`t resist a tattooed gang-banger run-of-the-mill thing.
What happened here was a concerted effort, a conspiracy. They went out and arranged these sexual liaisons at the time that her colleague was
on a lunch break. So this was calculated. This was considered. And this was dangerous!
This is unbelievable! And it`s at least two people. There`s a third jail staffer here that the inmate claims to have had sex with. And that`s
how he said he knew about the cameras and warned Curry about where the cameras were and when they were operational.
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GRACE: Multimillionaire Robert Durst in the last hours, FBI swoops down on Durst`s Houston luxury apartment, as police now think the heir to
billions may be connected to two more murders.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He may be facing murder charges in California.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: 16-year-old Karen Mitchell went missing in November 1997. She was last seen leaning into a light blue car she may
have gotten into.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We are certainly interested in any information that may or may not come out of interviews with Mr. Durst.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Anxiety as this 18-year-old case comes back to the forefront.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: But real estate millionaire Robert Durst was in a New Orleans courtroom, shackled, dressed an orange jump-suit, at one
point even smiling and laughing to himself.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: LAPD, HPD and FBI agents spent hours on the 14th floor searching the home of Robert Durst.
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GRACE: In my hands, Jean Casarez, CNN correspondent, I`ve got the search warrant. And we`ve learned a lot from it. Including huge sums of
cash. $42,000 plus.
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GRACE: A rubber latex mask that covers the face and the neck. Fake IDs just like he had after he killed Morris Black. Tracking numbers for
huge shipments of money. In the Houston apartment, two books about his wife`s disappearance, Kathie Durst. Of course she was murdered. What more
do we know, Jean?
CASAREZ: I`m trying to digest this too. This is the search warrant out of Texas. But it has information about the hotel room in Louisiana to
get the probable cause to get that search warrant. First, let`s talk about the hotel room in Louisiana. They found a lot more than we knew about,
Nancy. First a Texas identification card with the fake name of Everett Ward. At least fake as to Robert Durst. They found a lot of cash.
$42,631. Mainly $100 bills in sealed white envelopes. The rubber latex mask that would fit over your face and your neck area. They found
documentation --
GRACE: Whoa. Look, Jean. There is Durst smiling. And this is, what, right before or right after they move him, Jean, to a mental
facility. Even though his lawyers say he`s not crazy. There is nothing wrong with him. Jean Casarez, you know what it is. Durst gets behind
bars. He is finally busted for killing his long-time friend Susan Berman, execution style in the head. Finally busted after this HBO series "The
Jinx." And I guarantee you he tried to pretend he wanted to commit suicide, so the sheriff moved him. This guy is not mentally ill, Jean.
CASAREZ: You know what`s interesting is, in the facility he was in, how many inmates have a suicide risk when they are put in there. Many of
them. But they wanted to move him because of an acute medical condition. And it appears as though the jailers and the sheriff believe it could be
more than a suicide risk. But his own lawyers say he`s fine. Keep him where he is right there in Orleans parish. But he was moved early this
morning. That is the first thing that happened today.
GRACE: You are seeing video from HBO`s "The Jinx." I`m going show you what set the whole thing off. This series. HBO "The Jinx" is all
about Durst getting away with allegedly murdering his young wife Kathie. And then his friend Susan Berman. Morris Black, killed his neighbor and
walked free after decapitating and dismembering his body. Not only that, now he`s being perused in the disappearance and death of two young teens
out in California. Karen Mitchell and Kristen Modafferi. And there are connections from Durst to the girls. One, one girl worked at a homeless
shelter where Durst wandered in and out of. The same girl`s mom owned a shop that Durst would go into dressed in drag.
Of course, out to Bloomberg News correspondent, Lisa DePaulo. Lisa, that`s not the first time -- there is a composite on the perp in the two
teen girls. Not the first time Durst has dressed in drag. Not that there is anything wrong with with that. But what I`m saying is, it`s his M.O.
DEPAULO: What is interesting to me is up until this development, it didn`t seem like he started the drag routine until after the case of
Kathie`s disappearance was reopened and he fled to Texas, after Susan was killed, and that he dressed in drag to hide from being Bobby Durst. So if
in fact he was doing this before and they are there with these possible cases, wow. You are opening a whole new thing. Because up until now, the
three people we know he`s implicated in possibly killing are all very close, close people to him.
GRACE: Well, what we know -- let`s go to Michael Struk. Retired NYPD detective, appeared in HBO`s "The Jinx." Thank you for being with us.
MICHAEL STRUK, RETIRED NYPD DETECTIVE: Thank you, Nancy.
GRACE: Michael. You know, I have been just beside myself over Robert Durst for years. And people last night were saying well, why didn`t he get
prosecuted? Why didn`t Jeanine Pirro prosecute him? Well, Jeanine Pirro was not the first person to have this case. She came into office years
after his wife, Kathy, was murdered. She tried to put the pieces back together again, tried to put Humpty-Dumpty back together again. But now
what do you think finally got him arrested?
STRUK: Well, first of all, Nancy, the investigation obviously began with us as a missing person, of which it still stands today as a missing
person case.
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With respect to Ms. Pirro, she just attempted to resurrect the case that we had in point at that time. And that really went no place as well.
I think you had mentioned what took place down in Galveston. First of all, I smell an insanity defense coming with his smirks and his smiles now in
the paper. But he`s a lucky guy. He`s about as dumb as a fox--
GRACE: He`s not crazy, Michael.
STRUK: Oh no.
GRACE: What do you think would be the motive for him to kill his friend Susan Berman?
STRUK: That`s where there is a possible link back to Kathie`s disappearance. She was a confidante of Robert Durst. And part of my case,
not to go into great detail, there was a time where we believe that she had come back into Manhattan, and we interviewed doormen and elevator
operators. And what was really very compelling at that time was the fact that when we spoke to the dean at the college, and he had said, yes, she
called in that morning and blah, blah, blah. But really -- now looking back on it after 33 years, she apparently never did get to Manhattan.
GRACE: You know, that`s an interesting point, that that train ride he claims she took from Katona (ph) in. Lisa DePaulo, bottom line, I see the
same thing happening over and over again. In the last hours, his Houston luxury apartment has within raided where they find two books about Kathie
Durst. His dead wife.
DEPAULO: That`s what he always did. When he fled New Orleans the last time, when he fled there after leaving Galveston on his way to
Bethlehem to steal the sandwich, he left crazy stuff there too. He left an ABC special about Kathie Durst. That is his M.O. That`s all his MO.
But what I find interesting hearing all this, yes. He never -- Kathie Durst never got into Manhattan. And what`s unfortunate, with all due
respect to the detective, is that that case wasn`t fully investigated in 1982.
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GRACE: Okay, let`s test your crime IQ. What part of Robert Durst`s dismembered neighborhood remains missing? Tweet or Facebook your answers
using #crimeiq. I`ll reveal one of the winners here on the show tomorrow tonight. All you legal eagles, you have got 24 hours. Go.
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SANDRA HUGHES DOHM, MOTHER: And every time I tried calling his number to try to get in touch with him, it would just go directly, as if the phone
was off, to an automated message.
I`m trying to find my boys, Parker and Jaxon.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: A tearful Sandra Hughes Dohm appeals to the public to help find her two young sons.
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GRACE: Tonight, the young mom of two little boys with us live, begging for the boys` returns. Tonight, where are 7 and 8-year-old Jaxon
and Parker? We are not letting up in the search for these two boys. I want to go straight out to Joe Carlson, reporter with the New Jersey
Herald. What do we know?
JOE CARLSON, NEW JERSEY HERALD: Well, at this point, what we know is that some time in early February, the last time that Sandra Hughes Dohm
spoke with her sons Parker and Jaxon was on February 5th. Their father allegedly, under the guise of taking them to see his ailing father in
Nevada, allegedly abducted the two brothers. They haven`t been heard from since February 5th.
GRACE: Take a look at these little boys. Jaxon, 7. And Parker 8. Missing. Tip line 800-443-5678. Joining me also, the boys` mother, Sandra
Hughes Dohm. Thank you for being with us.
DOHM: Thank you for having me again and for keeping the boys, Parker and Jaxon`s picture out there.
GRACE: For those just joining us, Sandra, could you please just go through the boys disappearing.
DOHM: Their father had called me on February 5th and he asked if -- I`m sorry. Yes, February 5th. And he asked me if he could take them to
Nevada to see his father, who was -- he made it sound like his father was dying, and that he needed to go urgently to go see him. And they -- they
left and well, I thought they left. And then on Monday, February 9th, when they were supposed to return, they never came home.
GRACE: Okay. So you think they are going to Nevada for a vacation to see the grandparents. But they don`t go there --
DOHM: Not -- it wasn`t very vacation. It was to go there to see his father, their grandfather, who was supposedly in a hospital.
GRACE: OK, to visit, yes, thank you. Also with me in addition to the mom is Francis Koch, Sussex County prosecutor. Francis, thank you so much
for being with us. One of these little boys has asthma. We`re very concerned. One of them has transitional eyeglasses they may be wearing.
They might have their hair as you see it, or it may be shaved. Jaxon and Parker believed to be in grave danger tonight. Their mother asking for
your help. Please, anyone, look at them. If you have seen them, 800-843- 5678.
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To Francis Koch, Sussex County prosecutor, Francis, again, thanks for being with us. Let`s talk about what you told me about those stolen car
plates. What do we know?
FRANCIS KOCH, SUSSEX COUNTY PROSECUTOR: As I told you yesterday, Nancy, what happened was we got a tip with regard to a plate -- a car that
was driven through the Fort McHenry tunnel on March 6th. That would have been the morning after Sandra had last spoken to the boys. Very early
morning hours. The report came back, luckily through an investigation by a Baltimore officer, that the front plate and the back plate were different
on a vehicle. Both of those plates came back as stolen out of New Jersey. It`s our belief they were put on Mr. Dohm`s vehicle and driven through Fort
McHenry.
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GRACE: That changes things a lot, Francis. That really changes everything. Everybody, look at these tags. K 1 -- let`s see them again.
This means he is not just gone with the boys. He is eluding police. He has stolen plates and put them on the car. That changes the scenario.
Sandra Hughes Dohm, mom, is with us. Sandra, No. 1, that does kind of exclude the fact maybe they have had an accident and gone into a body of
water. We now know the father has intentionally changed the tags on the car and is evading you and the police. Why? Why would he be doing this?
DOHM: I have no idea why he is doing this. Through the investigation, it has come to understand -- I`ve come to understand that
this was a planned event for him, that he had planned to take my boys from me. I have no idea why. We have been separated since 2009 and divorced
since 2012. Our divorce was a mutual divorce. We did everything ourselves. Lawyers weren`t involved. We agreed on our custody agreement.
We both split custody of my boys. One week with him, one week with me. We attended things like basketball games and soccer games and practices
together, regardless of whoever`s week it was. The question is, why did he do this? But more importantly, where is he now? And where are my boys? I
need someone to help find them and help bring them home.
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GRACE: Please, please help us tonight. Help the mom with me on the show tonight. Sandra Hughes Dohm, missing both of her boys. Take a look.
You are seeing Parker and Jaxon. Sandra, tell me about the boys. What are they like?
DOHM: They are amazing. Parker, he is very interested in understanding everything. He always asks a lot of questions. He loves
science and he loves math and dinosaurs. Jaxon is very much an electronic kid. He loves to play video games and he loves to sing and to dance. Both
of them love music a lot.
GRACE: Sandra, when you go home, I can`t even imagine going home tonight after the show and my twins being gone, I just can`t imagine it.
What are you doing at home with them not there in their little bed?
DOHM: I`m doing everything that I can from my house to try to find them. My family and I have taken to going on to Facebook and Twitter and
trying to raise awareness about them being missing and that we need help finding them.
GRACE: Francis Koch, what interstate -- what highway would he have to have been on to go from her place to Baltimore?
KOCH: It`s unsure what his exact route of travel would have been. But it would have been on the 95 corridor. Nancy, we have received tips
and help from various law enforcement agencies across the country. We had a team of detectives out doing interviews. We`re willing to move on.
GRACE: Look at this route from Baltimore, Maryland, where the boys have last been seen. Back to Sandra Hughes Dohm. Sandra, if he is within
your hearing tonight, what is your message to your ex and the children?
DOHM: I just want Parker and Jaxon to know how much I love you and miss you and I need you to come home. I`m waiting for you to come home.
I`m looking for you every day. If you can ask for help, please do. Or call me so that I know you are safe. I miss you very much and I love you.
Chris, please bring them home.
GRACE: Tip line, 800-843-5678.
Let`s remember American hero, Army Staff Sergeant Joseph Gage, 28, Modesto. Army Good Conduct Medal, dreamed of a family vacation in Vegas.
Loved playing drums. Parents, Katherine and Randy, sister Julie, widow Samantha, son Michael. Joseph Gage, American hero.
Drew up next. I will see you tomorrow night 8:00 sharp Eastern. And until then, good night, friend.
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