Return to Transcripts main page
Nancy Grace
Nancy Grace 10-Year Anniversary. Aired 8-9:00p ET
Aired May 25, 2015 - 20:00 ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
NANCY GRACE, HOST: Imagine you in your own home, alone at the end of the day. The doors are locked. The garage door is down. And then an
intruder. Where do you go? What do you do? Quick, run up the stairs, go to the bedroom, go to the closet, kneel down and hide and pray for your
life.
Well, that`s what Texas police say happened to a 30-year-old woman, Belinda Temple (ph), 8 months pregnant when she kneeled down in her
bedroom, in the closet, and was shot point-blank execution-style.
Ten years since we took to the airwaves fighting for victims, bringing you their stories, fighting for their voices to be heard, fighting for
justice. As a crime victim myself, it has been my privilege and my honor to be a voice for victims, especially those who cannot speak for
themselves, every single case, every single story just as important as the next.
Tonight, stories that touch our lives and to this day, 10 years and going strong, we will continue to fight the good fight for justice.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
CASEY ANTHONY, CHARGED WITH MURDER: Can someone let me -- come on!
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: First degree murder.
911 OPERATOR: What is the 3-year-old`s name?
CINDY ANTHONY, GRANDMOTHER: Caylee, C-A-Y-L-E-E, Anthony.
So I found out my granddaughter has been taken. She has been missing for a month! Her mother finally admitted that she`s been missing.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We found a human skull.
911 OPERATOR: Oh, my gosh.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I know.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This child, at 8 years old, learned to lie immediately. She could be 13 years old, have her father (EXPLETIVE
DELETED) in her mouth and then go to school and play with the other kids as if nothing ever happened.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Have you ever sexually molested your daughter, Casey Anthony?
GEORGE ANTHONY, GRANDFATHER: No, sir.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: As to the charge of first degree murder, verdict as to count one, we the jury find the defendant not guilty.
GRACE: The tot mom jury renders a verdict of not guilty.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: Not only was I totally beside myself at the thought of a 2- year-old child being kidnapped and murdered, Caylee, the complete failure of our justice system really shook me to the core.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: The defense team promptly leaves the courthouse and goes to toast champagne in front of a window at a local bar. Let me just say the
devil is dancing tonight!
This is tot mom, Casey Anthony`s, former fiance, who actually, at some point, thought that he was Caylee`s biological father.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Obviously, Casey was the last person to see Caylee alive. Obviously, someone took Casey -- or Caylee`s body and put it in the
woods. And obviously, this family knows more than what they`ve said on the stand. So at the end of the day, I just want justice for those responsible
for Caylee not being with us and having her life cut so short.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: Another case that has profoundly affected me is the case of missing beauty Natalee Holloway.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: Natalee Holloway, where are you?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think this is going to focus on the Dutch boy. He was the one that witnesses said they were -- was intimate with the girl,
more than one witness. Somehow or other, they went off on their own. He might have gone a little bit too far, it got rough and somebody got killed.
GRACE: Yes, you know, everybody keeps says "being intimate with." I don`t know that that`s exactly how the whole thing went down.
People ask me, I even can`t count how many times, will Joran Van Der Sloot strike again? I don`t think he can help himself, but I wasn`t
convinced he would be so stupid!
Judge`s son Joran Van Der Sloot, the chief suspect in the death of Alabama girl Natalee Holloway, now suspected of killing again. Joran Van
Der Sloot killed a Peruvian girl in Peru. They`re not going to let this slide the way Aruba let it slide when an American girl was killed on their
turf. Oh, no. It`s going to be different this time.
You`re a friend of Joran Van Der Sloot`s. Are you surprised that he actually pled guilty to murder?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, he really didn`t have a choice in this situation. So I`m just hoping for the best...
[20:05:02]GRACE: Put him up. What do you mean he didn`t have a choice?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I mean, even I can`t dispute the evidence. He obviously murdered her. I`m not saying that it wasn`t provoked. And he --
I believe he did have post-traumatic stress syndrome, but...
GRACE: What do you mean "provoked"? You think Stephany Tatiana provoked Joran Van Der Sloot into murdering her? What do you mean by that?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I do believe so. If she got the e-mail and figured out he was involved in Natalee`s stuff, she should have just
immediately left the room and not confronted him.
GRACE: But how did that provoke him, that she said, Whoa, are you the one that people believe killed Natalee? How did that provoke him into
murder?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It enraged him, obviously. So she shouldn`t have done that. I don`t believe...
GRACE: She shouldn`t have done that? OK, John Ludwick (ph), no offense, but do you realize how crazy you sound right now, that she
basically deserved the murder because she said, Whoa, you`re the guy they suspect that murdered Natalee Holloway, that she shouldn`t have said
anything, that it`s her fault she didn`t leave the hotel room? Do you realize how crazy you sound?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Not saying she deserved it, but she could have prevented it by just leaving immediately and -- he was suffering from post-
traumatic stress syndrome.
GRACE: Yes, I didn`t ask you about the post-traumatic stress syndrome. I`m ask you about Stephany Flores. You just said she provoked
him into murder.
Have you seen the crime scene? Her blood was smeared from the bottom of the wall to the top of the ceiling. She`s covered in bruises, half
naked. He stole thousands of dollars from her and said his only problem was the money was covered in blood. And you`re telling me that she
provoked him?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I believe so, Nancy.
GRACE: Show him the photos, Liz, of the crime scene drenched in blood. You`re saying that you hope for the best, that he gets out in a
third of his sentence? Is that what you just said?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. I believe he made the crime scene look worse than it initially was, like you said, to make it look like someone tried to
rape her or something like that. So I believe, afterwards -- the money was just an afterthought. He didn`t...
GRACE: Hey, honey, let me tell you thing. Her having her pants pulled off is the least of Stephany`s problems. I doubt that`s what she
would be worried about. She was brutally murdered.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If I was a woman and I was in her situation, I surely wouldn`t have stood around asking that question. I would have got
out of there.
GRACE: OK, so John Ludwick -- and I am speaking now not as a lawyer but as victim of violent crime myself -- you`re saying that the murder
victim who endured a brutal beating, a super-human strangulation where her neck bone was actually crushed, the room covered in blood, her clothes
ripped off of her post-mortem and left that way to be found -- it`s her fault.
Sir, you know what? Cut his mike. John Ludwick, I reserve this for very, very few people, but you, sir, are a fool. And what you have said
sets victims` rights back maybe a couple hundred years.
Take him off the screen. I don`t want to look at him anymore.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: When Stephany, the second victim, was killed, I felt the greatest pain of helplessness that we had not been able to somehow help
find Natalee Holloway.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hi, friend. Just you know, sitting in the back, cruising over to my place.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: Bring Joran Van Der Sloot to justice, and it would have saved Stephany`s Tatiana Flores`s life.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
[20:13:41]GRACE: One that really stands out is the death of Anna Nicole Smith. I`ve never seen anything like it.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: Breaking news tonight, Anna Nicole Smith dead, age 39. A local hotel says EMTs tried their best to keep the celebrity covergirl
alive after she`s found unresponsive in her hotel room. Local streets then closed off to rush Smith to the hospital with paramedics pumping Smith`s
chest throughout the ordeal. This all as legal battle looms against Smith, DNA paternity fight, bankruptcy, eviction, ongoing battle over her late
husband`s will. Was it just too much for the superstar?
And tonight, lawyers are set to appear in court, 0830, an emergency hearing now set down to determine who gets custody of Dannielynn, Anna
Nicole Smith`s 5-month-old daughter, and the multi-million-dollar empire that comes with the baby of the late Anna Nicole Smith.
With us tonight, a friend of Anna Nicole`s, Bobby Trendy. He started out as her decorator and turned into her friend. What are your thoughts
about Anna Nicole?
BOBBY TRENDY, FRIEND: My thoughts are, what a tragic loss to have this happen to her. She was such a giver, and now she can`t give anymore.
Her lively spirit is no longer with us. She`s a legend. She`s the modern day Marilyn Monroe.
[20:15:09]GRACE: It`s ironic to me that her husband died, her son died, the husband`s son died. And check out this comparison of Anna Nicole
and Marilyn Monroe. And now this untimely death of -- it just seems that bad fortune has followed her.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: All these different dangerous drugs and controlled substances were part of the death of Anna Nicole Smith.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (INAUDIBLE) having brain trouble. (INAUDIBLE)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you think this is a good time to announce the sex of your baby?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Look, it`s a (INAUDIBLE)
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: And to this day, every time I read a story about her little girl and how well she`s doing, I think of Anna Nicole.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
MICHAEL JACKSON, SINGER: This is the final -- this is the final curtain call.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Here`s what we know so far. Here`s the timeline - - 12:20 Pacific time, 3:20 in the East, the call, 911 call came. Los Angeles Fire Department responded. Michael Jackson apparently suffered
cardiac arrest.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They would probably very quickly ascertain whether -- what his heart rhythm is, knowing that the primary reason for this would
be cardiac arrest, a sudden death event.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: Another story that was disturbing on so many levels was that of Michael Jackson, an icon dead, really at the hands of his own doctor.
And I found it very difficult for many people to separate his child molestation charges from the fact that he died at the hands of his doctor,
Conrad Murray.
The reality is that regardless of what he was accused of, of what he may or may not have done -- and I`m referring to allegations of child
molestation, for which he was cleared...
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: ... for virtually his entire life would cause young girls to just break into tears for no apparent reason if they got
within 50 feet of the guy. And he had this palpable energy for those who got to even be in the same room with him.
GRACE: Joining me right now, straight out to Paul Vercammen. He is joining us from the medical center there at UCLA where Jackson has died.
Paul, what happened?
PAUL VERCAMMEN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Nancy, here`s basically what happened. It was about two-and-a-half hours ago that he was officially
pronounced dead here at UCLA Medical Center. Michael Jackson had been taken from his house -- which is about, oh, I`d say two miles from here --
in a five-minute ride. He had suffered cardiac arrest at his rented mansion here in the area and then was taken to the medical center.
From we understand, he then was in a pitched battle for his life. He lapsed into a coma. They were unable to save him, Nancy.
JACKSON: I love you.
(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)
JACKSON: I really do. You have to know that. I love you so much, really, from the bottom of my heart.
GRACE: Breaking tonight, live LA, American songbird superstar Whitney Houston dead. We are live just feet here from the death scene, LA`s
Beverly Hilton, as accusations and finger-pointing mounts. Bombshell tonight. Houston allegedly found submerged under water, her lungs
swimming.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: I will never get over the investigation into the death of Whitney Houston -- that America`s songbird could die that way, so easily
avoidable and such tragedy not only because of her great beauty and talent, but because she fought her demons for so long, and I always imagined that
there was a way she could have been saved.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
[20:23:56]GRACE: Forty-one-year-old Michael Devlin, Devlin prime suspect in kidnap of two little Missouri boys, now facing felony charges,
kidnapping and multiple counts of forceable sodomy.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: Over all the years we covered missing people, missing children, unsolved homicides, one of the cases that turned out to be the
most surprising, and in ways the most shocking, was the case of Shawn Hornbeck and Ben Ownby.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We did locate Ben this afternoon in the city of Kirkwood, and we`ve also located Shawn Hornbeck, who was at the same
residence with him when he was located.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: Two little boys that went missing years apart. And at first, people didn`t really make a connection. But when you look at the two of
them, they`re shocking similar, almost like a fingerprint crime.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: When Devlin was at work, we know that one of the young boys was free to roam the playgrounds in the areas there at the apartment
complex. I liken it very much to battered women. They know they can physically leave.
[20:25:08]But look -- I mean, did you look at these criminal charges, 71 counts of forceable sodomy on a little boy? These two kids have been
incredibly traumatized, if we believe these charges. And when an adult woman can`t bring herself to leave, why would you expect an 11-year-old boy
to be able to leave?
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: I will never forget the case of Jessica Lunsford, the girl in the pink hat.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: With us is Jessica`s father. Mr. Lunsford, I hate -- I know you know all these facts already. But I late to even say them out loud to
you and have you hear them again. I hate that it`s hurting you to hear this.
Mr. Lunsford, I`ve just got to ask you, when you hear these facts about Jessie`s death and the way she was treated, where do you get the
strength to just keep on fighting?
MARK LUNSFORD, JESSICA`S FATHER: It`s not strength, it`s Jessie carrying me. Couey is a pathological liar. He`s a piece of (EXPLETIVE
DELETED). Sorry, but it`s the truth. And if he was so willing to leave Jessie alone and free to go as she wanted to, then why`d he tie her up and
put her in a hole?
GRACE: It just hurts me so much not only the way she was treated but to let her see the TV and to know her Daddy was looking for her.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: I became a friend of her father`s, Mark Lunsford, and it wrenched my heart. He was so desperate to find her. And coincidentally,
that case was not long after we launched our HLN show, the search for the girl in the pink hat.
(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)
RONALD CUMMINGS, HALEIGH`S FATHER: I just got home from work. My 5- year-old daughter is gone. I need somebody to be here now, I`m telling you!
911 OPERATOR: (INAUDIBLE) we`ve got two officers...
CUMMINGS: If I find whoever had my daughter before you`ll do, I`m killing him! I don`t care.
911 OPERATOR: OK. OK.
CUMMINGS: I`ll spend the rest of my life in prison!
GRACE: I can`t even imagine going home tonight after this show and finding my children gone. When Ronald Cummings got home from the night
shift, 3:27, 3:30 AM, his 5-year-old girl, Haleigh -- there she is on the screen -- gone. She was put to bed around 8:00 PM. Everything was fine.
She was seen in bed around 11:00 PM. By 3:30, totally vanished.
CUMMINGS: I just want my child back!
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We just want somebody (INAUDIBLE) to find her.
CUMMINGS: I just want my child back so bad! I`d have give them everything I own. All I want is my child!
GRACE: About the back door, am I correct that you never -- you rarely used the back door that was propped open?
CUMMINGS: Yes, you are correct. I`ve used it twice to pull the vacuum cleaner down the handicap ramp to vacuum my car with it. And yes, I
did re-lock the door when I came in, and I check to be sure that it is still locked every afternoon before I go to work.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: So many times, we felt that we were on the cusp, the verge of finding her, and it went through so many twists and turns. And to this
day, we still don`t have answers.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
[20:33:00]
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
TIGER WOODS: Many of you in this room are my friends.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is it.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I want to be treated like everyone else.
MICHAEL JACKSON: These statements about me are totally false.
WOODS: Now, every one of you has good reason to be critical of me.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: One of the fantastic things about our program is that we can focus on cases nobody has ever heard of, we can shine light on issues and
incidents and crimes that need the light. Or we can focus on celebrity. Do I have to say Paris Hilton?
A hand-rolled cigarette in her hand, behind the wheel.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do we know if there`s a green, leafy substance in there, or maybe it`s just tobacco. You don`t know.
GRACE: Michael, I appreciate that. Note to self, when charged with pot smoking, hire Michael Cardosa (ph).
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: A disheveled Paris Hilton in handcuffs and tears. Reporters and photographers trampling each other, arrived at the
courthouse, broadcast live in true L.A. celebrity style.
GRACE: I will never forget going to the Paris Hilton jail when she was claustrophobic.
Hilton in tears is asked to explain her mystery illness tonight. We learn it`s depression, alleged ADD, and a fit of claustrophobia. Hilton
has been ordered to jail (inaudible) screaming and crying, but as the population is now demanding a recall on the sheriff who set her free,
Hilton is sitting in a private room with a window view. This is a wing normally reserved for the acutely ill.
No celebrity trouble list would complete without Tiger Woods.
I know it`s brutal on you that you can`t be with me all the time. I get it. It f`in kills me too. I finally found someone I can connect with.
It`s someone I`ve never found like this, not even at home. I want you to lay next to me, lay on me or wherever you want to lay. F, why didn`t we
find each other years ago? We wouldn`t be having this conversation.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Do you think Tiger loved you?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: There were times when I feel that he could have. But I mean, if you were to ask me that question now, I would have to say he
didn`t.
GRACE: That is the cocktail waitress Jamie Grubbs, in the middle of an interview where she`s explaining why she thought Tiger Woods actually
loved her. Now she`s heard about an alleged string of mistresses, she`s not so sure. How do you think his wife feels?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No wonder the ladies call him Tiger.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We`ve got another swimsuit model who met him in Vegas. She claims we`ve got another woman that worked for this lingerie
website.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Could all of these alleged affairs defeat a prenup?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We`ve also got a former porn star Holly Sampson (ph) who is added to the list, and it goes on and on.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Two gals. We have Jamie --
GRACE: Don`t use gals. It`s demeaning. They`re grown women.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We have two alleged paramours here, is that an OK word?
WOODS: People want to know how I could have done these things to my wife, Elin, and to my children.
GRACE: And it all come to a head when somehow his vehicle got beaten in with a golf club. I wonder who did that?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Elin, his wife, heard the crash, she came out of their posh $2.4 million home, allegedly with a golf club and beat out the
back windows of the Escalade that he was driving in order to get him out of the truck. He ended up on the pavement, and the neighbors said he went in
and out of consciousness for at least six minutes until EMS arrived.
GRACE: It`s a pajama party, everybody. Grab your pillow. Michael Jackson showed up to court today in his pajamas. Let`s see, I got my
umbrella, I`ve got my pajamas. I`ve got my entourage. I`ve got my family members. Okay, I`m ready for court. This is after Judge Rodney Mellville
ordered a bench warrant for Jackson`s arrest for a no-show to court this morning. Jackson claims he was down in the back.
I remember watching the Michael Jackson trial, and I`ve tried so many cases, but it had a surreal quality.
Take it from the top. Okay, while he`s gingerly walking in with his alleged back ailment, tippy toe, tippy toe, here we go, he`s walking in,
you can get off his shoes, Elizabeth, but thanks. Still walking in.
There were Vegas odds on the outcome of the trial. I recall it reminded me of the O.J. Simpson trial, where everyone said he`s going to
walk, he`s going to walk. I kept going, no way, no way, the evidence is too strong. Boy, was I wrong. As a prosecutor, when a child comes to you
and says, I was molested, what do you do, throw the case out because they`re poor? Throw the case out because they`re Hispanic or because the
mother is a little crazy? Do you turn away from a difficult case? No, you go in there, you try the case, you take your lumps, and maybe you lose.
We`re joined now by the jury foreperson, Paul Rodriguez. Welcome, sir. Thank you for being with us.
PAUL RODRIGUEZ: Thank you.
GRACE: Mr. Rodriguez, did you believe the boy that came in that is now a youth minister that stated Jackson molested him in the past?
RODRIGUEZ: Well, we had a little problem with that, because he had no idea where some of his money came from, and he didn`t want to talk to his
mother. So those are the kind of things we didn`t focus on, but it did keep -- we kept that in the back of our minds.
GRACE: For everybody that`s been watching the case as we go to break, I`m having a little crow sandwich on the set tonight. And it`s not going
to taste good. Be right back.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
[20:43:00]
GRACE: Murder for hire is so cold. It`s so calculated. It`s so difficult for me to imagine plotting the deaths so methodically, so calmly,
so clinically, the death of someone you know and possibly once loved. Which brings me to Dahlia Defalinos (ph).
A Florida beach beauty marries her dream man and the newlyweds all set to live happily ever after until death does them part. But what the 26-
year-old beauty doesn`t plan on is the hit man she hires to murder the new hubby is a cop. That`s right, the cops sting the bride on video. Breaking
down in hysterical tears, crying over her dead husband, just hours after she puts those special final touches on his shooting death. I think the
academy should reconsider their last Oscar, and take a look at her as she pretends, as she fakes grief over her husband`s death. It was all a sting.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I just want to make sure this is what you want, all right? Are you sure you want to kill this dude?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Do we really have to?
GRACE: She`s walking up. She`s gotten the call at the L.A. Fitness Center to come home immediately. Look at the other cops. This is what I
like. They all know he`s not dead.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Oh, God!
GRACE: Oh, God. No, no.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you know who this guy is?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Never seen him before?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I`ve never seen him before, ever.
GRACE: It`s about time she should bend over with abdominal pain. She`s about to collapse out of grief.
JODI ARIAS: I was totally tired and I was asleep, and I would have been completely content just cuddling with you (inaudible) bed. But you
had another agenda. But I don`t mind receiving while you`re doing the giving.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You cannot say I don`t like that booty.
ARIAS: You do know how to work the booty.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Your butt has gotten more attention than any woman on the face of the earth.
GRACE: The Jodi Arias trial is a conundrum. Because in my mind, the single most important thing is a verdict that speaks the truth.
[20:46:00]
Bombshell tonight, after months of testimony, days of deliberation, the jury hands down a verdict in the Jodi Arias murder one trial. Arias,
guilty, murder one. Five jurors say premeditation. Seven jurors say premeditation, plus felony murder.
ARIAS: Some say there was blood on my hands.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: -- actually slit his throat from ear to ear.
ARIAS: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You`re the individual that stabbed him in the upper torso?
ARIAS: Yes.
GRACE: We already know that Jodi Arias shot a bird at me from inside the courtroom. What can you tell me about her making a throat slashing
motion in court, and then of course, there`s the instance where she says bullshit under her breath, but we can obviously see what she`s saying.
It`s not a secret to anyone that Jodi Arias has been taking to Twitter at night when she goes home to jail. She`s attacking not only Martinez and
the state, but me as well. Let`s see some of her tweets, Justin, if you can put those up. Obviously she`s not concerned about the jury
deliberations. Okay, Nancy Disgrace has set back the cause of all women who have survived domestic violence. Her circus makes a mockery of
something very serious. I guess that would be your murder trial, Jodi Arias. All of us, myself being a crime victim, you as well, are making a
mockery of the justice system?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No, I don`t believe you are. If anything, you`re creating awareness here. I think that`s my whole objective is to
create awareness and to teach even young teens to recognize and how to deal with domestic violence.
ARIAS: The lies I told in this case are -- can be tied directly back to either protecting Travis` reputation or my involvement in his death.
GRACE: Day after day, Arias on the stand, dragging murder victim Travis Alexander through the mud. But then the defense emerges. Arias
claims after she stabs Travis 29 times, holding his head back, slashing him ear to ear, to the chest, the heart, the back, leaving him dead in the
shower stall, she tells the jury she can`t remember a thing. Take a look at what happened in the courtroom as Arias breaks down, basically
confessing on the stand.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Mr. Alexander was stabbed. You would acknowledge that, right?
ARIAS: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And you would acknowledge that that stabbing was with a knife, right?
ARIAS: Yes.
GRACE: Could you tell me about the time that Travis, Jodi Arias, and others were hanging out in the jacuzzi, what happened?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, we were hanging out after a business event, kind of casually kicking back.
GRACE: I`m very jealous, Jamie Simko, because when I go out of town for work, I never get to boil in a jacuzzi. It kind of sounds a little
fun, minus all the deadly STD germs floating around, but it does sound kind of fun. But back to you in the jacuzzi -- let me just get that mental
picture back in my head. Go ahead. Tell me about Arias in the jacuzzi. I want to hear this.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Let`s get something straight. When I first laid eyes on her, I said, wow, this girl is smoking hot.
GRACE: I disagree. Because when I see her, I see blood, running down her wrists, OK? That kind of detracts from any physical attractiveness one
may perceive, the whole blood, the whole murder thing.
[20:50:00]
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No unanimous agreement. Signed foreperson.
GRACE: Tonight, Jodi Arias breathes a sigh of relief. A hung jury. Mistrial. That`s right. Deadlocked. That jury, the original jury, did
render a verdict that spoke the truth. She is guilty of the slaughter of an innocent person, Travis Alexander, innocent and trusting.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
[20:55:50]
GRACE: Bombshell tonight. Pot enthusiasts aka potheads, stoners, tonight demanding pot must be legal.
I`ve seen video of you smoking a big fat doobie. I`ve read your lyrics. I know what you say in your songs. What I`m trying to say to you
is that if this is legalized, then everybody is going to have unlimited access to pot. And unlike other people that are responsible, irresponsible
child abusers are going to have free access.
2 CHAINZ: I`m not sure if you know, but everybody has the ability to get their hands on pot right now, whether it`s legal or not. I feel if you
legalize this particular drug, it could cut out certain things in the criminal justice system as far as the overcrowding of prisons, as far as
putting us on our criminal record to prevent us from getting loans, prevent us from getting homes. Just the whole thing around recreational weed is
not making any sense to me.
GRACE: Here`s my answer to that.
(CROSSTALK)
GRACE: Why don`t you not smoke pot? Why don`t you just not get arrested?
2 CHAINZ: We have a deficit right now. We have to try to find ways on getting out. I figured if we got half of the states legalizing pot, if
the rest of the community legalizes pot, that frees up taxpayers` money, that allows us to do something with the extra funds as far as fixing
everything from potholes in the streets to --
GRACE: What do you mean free up taxpayers money?
2 CHAINZ: For me, I`m a taxpayer, okay.
GRACE: Yes.
2 CHAINZ: One example from me, I`m a taxpayer. My bus gets pulled over and they say they smell weed, like they do all the time. OK? They
find a grind on my bus that has 0.01 residue inside of it. They lock me up, they strip me, and then they find out I`m a rapper and they want to
know how fine is Nicki Minaj, they want to take pictures and they want to let me go. They obviously charge me with 0.01. I go to court, I go to
trial, and then they say, do you pack your own bags? Is this your grind? I tell them no. Who packed your bags? They find out my security does,
they drop my case, and then they pick it up on my security, who obviously beats the case. If that`s not a waste of taxpayers` time and money, I
don`t know what is.
GRACE: You don`t even give your children caffeine. I don`t either. They have never been given a Coke, a Pepsi.
2 CHAINZ: Ever. Mine either. Never.
GRACE: So why does a man like you who won`t even let his daughters have a Coca-Cola or a Pepsi and you`re advocating the legalization of
marijuana. Is doesn`t fit together.
I would say one of the oddest stories I`ve had, that`s a whole case file in itself, the odd stories, would have to be the Bothuell story.
With me is the father of the missing 12-year-old boy, Charlie, with me his father Charlie Bothuell. Charlie, we are getting reports that your son
has been found in your basement. Sir? Mr. Bothuell, are you --
BOTHUELL: What?
GRACE: Yes, we are getting reports that your son has been found alive in your basement.
BOTHUELL: What?
GRACE: Yes. If you could hand me that wire very quickly. We`re getting that right now from -- how could your son be alive in your
basement?
BOTHUELL: Oh. I have -- I have no idea. I --
GRACE: On this Memorial Day, we salute the men and women who gave their lives for us, all of them, American heroes.
END