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South Carolina Baby Vanishes From Home. Aired 8-9:00p ET

Aired June 10, 2015 - 20:00   ET

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NANCY GRACE, HOST: Breaking news tonight, live, Pendleton, South Carolina. A 12-month-old little girl, Leaona Wright, disappears. We join

family and law enforcement for the search for baby Leaona.

Bombshell tonight. Startling new facts emerging as the clock ticking down.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (INAUDIBLE) a baby. The baby is missing out here.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This beautiful South Carolina baby has been missing, and her family believes she may have wandered away from home.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She feels like her daughter, Leaona. was not there that night when she came home.

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GRACE: And tonight, a plastic surgery-obsessed mother of six daughters known as the "human Barbie" not only racks up over a million

dollars worth of plastic surgery on herself, but gives her 7-year-old little girl $7,000 worth of plastic surgery vouchers? And she`s with us

tonight.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Sarah Berje (ph), known by some as the "human Barbie."

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (INAUDIBLE) eyes and nose, everything.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The mom reportedly gives vouchers for plastic surgery to her 7-year-old daughter.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (INAUDIBLE) about plastic surgery, from botox to (INAUDIBLE)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You gave little Poppy (ph) here a $7,000 gift certificate for future plastic surgery.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: That video from E!`s "Botched."

And live, Annapolis. A family moves into their dream home only to find it`s infested with thousands of snakes! Did the realtors lie?

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It`s creepy.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Black and rat snakes are slithering in the walls, ceilings and living space of the home of Jeff (ph) and Jody Brooks (ph).

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I found the seven-footer, and I came -- I stumbled across it and it -- it, you know, just startled me.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: Good evening. I`m Nancy Grace. I want to thank you for being with us.

Bombshell tonight. Live to South Carolina. A 12-month-old little girl, Leaona Wright, disappears. We join family and law enforcement in the

search for baby Leaona. At this hour startling new facts are emerging as the clock ticks down.

Straight out to Joey Hudson, host with WGTK. Joey, in a nutshell, this is the story as I understand it. Mommy goes out a bachelorette party.

She comes home in the wee hours. She doesn`t normally stay out late, but this was a special occasion. A wedding was coming up for her sister. Her

sister was getting married. So this is a bachelorette party.

She comes home, falls into the bed, oversleeps the next morning, wakes up 9:00 AM. The front door is open. The 1-year-old baby Leaona, pictured

here, is gone. And they think maybe the 3-year-old big sister opened the door and that the baby got out. That`s my understanding of the facts so

far.

JOEY HUDSON, WGTK (via telephone): Nancy, you`re right. And we`re in day five of this search, and the Anderson County sheriff`s office said

today that it was changing the strategy of how they pursue the investigation.

GRACE: Well, hold on. Wait a minute.

HUDSON: ... of the disappearance.

GRACE: Right there, that`s important, Joey Hudson, WGTK. The Anderson County sheriff`s office has been all over this from the get-go,

the sheriff joining us earlier. They at first were searching all around the apartment complex and beyond. Now they`re trying -- as I understand,

Joey, they`re focusing on how the baby got out of the apartment?

Is that the new focus?

HUDSON: That`s the focus of their investigation now because I think anyone who has heard about the case -- and you think about a 1-year-old

child who -- and it is conflicting as to whether or not she could walk or not, but still, a 1-year-old could not get very far on her own from this

apartment.

So yes, Sheriff Skipper is now focusing on leads that he`s receiving from various members of the public. There`s been a couple of rewards

offered by CrimeStoppers and other groups. And that`s what he`s basing his focus on now, is how did the baby get out of the apartment.

GRACE: You know, though, Joey Hudson, I don`t know if you have children or not -- Joey joining us, host with WGTK. You`re right. She

couldn`t probably get far on her own as it`s my understanding this child is still crawling, which is not unusual.

But here`s the thing. She doesn`t have to go far. If you look at the way the apartment complex is set up, she doesn`t have to go far before she

could be spotted by a car, be spotted by a pedestrian, be spotted by somebody that lives in that apartment complex, be spotted by a maintenance

man, a garbage man, anybody, a repairman. Anybody could have seen her. She didn`t have to go that far.

[20:05:05]Let`s see the aerial of that apartment complex one more time, please. So if this baby was out crawling around for even 15 minutes,

20 minutes, she would be in contact with other people from the complex, from the parking lot, which goes onto a roadway. So she doesn`t have to

get that far.

Joining me right now is special guest Laressia Sullivan, the cousin of the mom, Kiara Sullivan, and missing baby Leaona. Laressia, thank you so

much for being with us.

LARESSIA SULLIVAN, COUSIN OF MISSING CHILD (via telephone): Thank you.

GRACE: Laressia, I understand that the mom was out for a bachelorette party the night before, and she came in really late. That`s not typical

for her. She`s not a party girl that stays out all night every night. But wasn`t -- isn`t her other sister getting married? Who`s getting married?

SULLIVAN: Well, it wasn`t a bachelorette party. It was a wedding rehearsal. We was at a wedding rehearsal, and it started around, like,

7:00 and it ended around 10:30. And it was her sister, her older sister.

GRACE: Because Sheriff -- the sheriff of Anderson County told us that she came in in the wee hours, sometime after 3:00 AM, that she had gone to

a bachelorette party. That`s the information they had. But you`re telling me it was the rehearsal dinner and the rehearsal for the wedding that was

supposed to happen the next day?

SULLIVAN: Yes.

GRACE: OK. So the wedding is happening the next day, and Mom -- with me is Laressia Sullivan, who is the cousin of the mom here, Kiara.

So her sister`s getting married. Was she supposed to be in the wedding?

SULLIVAN: Yes. She was. We were all in the wedding.

GRACE: OK, so...

SULLIVAN: She was a bridesmaid.

GRACE: ... did you see her at the rehearsal?

SULLIVAN: Yes, we was all together until about 10:30.

GRACE: All right. So she appeared to be normal and nothing unusual (INAUDIBLE) upset or distraught?

SULLIVAN: (INAUDIBLE)

GRACE: Ma`am?

SULLIVAN: We was having a ball. We was having fun. All the family was together. We was just having fun.

GRACE: And at that time, there was no concern about baby Leaona because she was with you...

SULLIVAN: No, ma`am.

GRACE: ... all for a period of time. And the boyfriend was at home. At any time, did she get a call from the boyfriend that the baby wouldn`t

stop crying or the baby wouldn`t eat or the baby wet the bed? Anything like that happen?

SULLIVAN: Yes, actually, she called to check on her kid (ph), and he said they was fine. And she also told him that she was going out for to

party for her sister.

GRACE: Right.

SULLIVAN: We was all going out. And he said that was fine. OK, I got the kid.

GRACE: So that must have been where the sheriff got the bachelorette party thing from. After that, everybody went out with the sister. So the

next day, the wedding is to take place. What time is the wedding supposed to happen?

SULLIVAN: The wedding is supposed to happen at 4:00 o`clock next day.

GRACE: When did you find out baby Leaona is gone?

SULLIVAN: Well, the girl who called the 911 (INAUDIBLE) another family member while we was at the shop getting our hair done, and she said

someone needs to come up here. Kiara`s baby`s missing. So that was around, like, 9:30, 10:00 o`clock.

GRACE: Oh, my stars. I can only imagine! All of you in there getting your hair done, getting ready for the wedding. It`s going to

happen in a couple of hours, and you find out the baby is gone.

All right, what happened then?

SULLIVAN: We flew up there to (INAUDIBLE) as fast as we could. When we got up there, it was just chaos. Everything was going on. It was like

a thousand policemen.

I asked Kiara what happened. She said she woke up late for her hair appointment. And you know, she asked Travis (ph) to get the kids up, so

that she can get them ready for her dad to come get them. And she went up and looked in the kids` room, and the baby was missing, but her older

daughter was there still.

GRACE: Where was the older daughter? And we have been told the front door was ajar, open.

SULLIVAN: Yes, it was.

GRACE: Where was the 3-year-old?

SULLIVAN: The 3-year-old was there in the home.

GRACE: Was she still asleep?

SULLIVAN: No, she was woke.

GRACE: OK, see, I wanted to find that out because one theory is the 3-year-old opened the door, the 3-year-old big sister, and the baby may

have crawled out. Now, baby Leaona, was she able to walk? That`s the big question.

SULLIVAN: She was starting to walk, yes. She was walking at the time.

GRACE: Ah. OK. Because we were told the baby could not walk, but you`re telling me she could take some steps, right?

SULLIVAN: Yes, she could take steps now.

[20:10:02]GRACE: What was the baby -- do you know what baby Leaona was wearing the night before?

SULLIVAN: Well, I don`t know personally what she was wearing. I`m just going off of what Kiara said. She had on a white T-shirt.

GRACE: OK, let me ask you this. What is the mom, Kiara, saying now? What does she think? She wakes up -- what was her initial reaction -- let

me start with that, when she realizes the baby`s gone?

SULLIVAN: She was shocked. She didn`t know what to do. She ran outside. She looked everywhere, under the bed. She says she even looked

in cabinets and closets, even though she knew that her baby couldn`t be in there. She just checked everywhere, you know, to try to find her. She

said she went outside screaming and hollering, you know, trying to get everybody`s attention to help her find her baby. She didn`t know what to

do.

GRACE: Oh, Laressia, you are giving me a chill up and down my spine because I`m thinking, if I walked into my twins` room and one or both of

them were missing, what would you do? I would do exactly that, go look in every cabinet, look in every room, go just run out in the yard and start

screaming because you don`t know what to do.

So after she had even looked in the cabinets, even knowing the baby wouldn`t be there, what did she do?

SULLIVAN: She ran outside and hollered and screamed for someone to call the police (INAUDIBLE)

GRACE: When you first talked to her after Leaona is gone, what was her demeanor? How did she act?

SULLIVAN: Well, yesterday was my first time seeing her smile in a couple of days. She`s always shaking and crying, and like, out of it.

It`s not her anymore. She keeps falling out (ph), and you know, having little spells. She`s staying with her mother right now, and my aunt said

when she gets up in the middle of the night just to go check on Kiara, she`s on her knees, praying to the good Lord, crying for her baby`s safe

return.

GRACE: You know what? When you said that, Laressia, I think every parent hearing you right now can only imagine what that is like.

And joining me right now not only the mom`s cousin all set to go to that wedding -- the mom was supposed to be at her sister`s wedding that day

in just a few hours, and she finds out as they`re all getting ready to go to the wedding, she`s trying to get the children all dressed -- you know

how that is, to get everybody dressed, and you yourself are the last one to get dressed to find out your baby is missing, your baby is gone.

Marc Klaas, you have been there -- that feeling, that shock, that fear, that -- you don`t know what to do. Do you remember that when Polly

went missing, that feeling when you first -- It really dawns on you she`s not in the cabinet. She`s not hiding in the bathtub. She`s not under the

bed. She`s not under a blanket. She`s gone.

MARC KLAAS, KLAAS KIDS FOUNDATION: Yes, of course, I remember it. I remember it like it was yesterday. I wasn`t on premises when Polly was

kidnapped. I was informed by a phone call at 11:30 at night. I spent the rest of the evening confirming with law enforcement and trying to get more

information, contacting the FBI, doing those kinds of things.

It was only the next morning at about 6:00 o`clock, after being up all night, that I heard that Polly had been kidnapped on the radio, that it

really began to sink in that this was not -- this was not an incident...

GRACE: Marc...

KLAAS: ... that I was dreaming that...

GRACE: ... I did not know that that`s how you found out Polly was kidnapped. So you`d been up all night. At 6:00 AM, you hear it on the

radio?

KLAAS: Yes. And then I had to call my family. I didn`t want them to hear it like I did. So really, one of the most difficult tasks of my life

was calling my family members one after another after another, listening to my mother take her breath back, listening to one my sisters weep, listening

to another one of my sisters saying, Don`t do anything until I get there, and really trying to emotionally wrap our arms around the fact that this

horrible act had occurred.

GRACE: You know what, Marc? Like so many crime victims, when that moment happens to you, it seems so surreal. And it`s unlike any feeling I

have ever known. It`s like your body and your mind cannot accept what you know to be true.

And to me, this mother -- from what I can tell right now, this mother is telling the truth. What the cousin just told me sounds absolutely

believable, that she went into hysterics, crying, looking in the cabinets even, trying to find her daughter, running out into the yard, screaming,

Somebody help me.

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[20:19:18]UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Couldn`t even walk. She couldn`t leave from the apartment.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Somebody came into the house and took the child.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Oh, my God. Ma`am, I don`t know.

(CROSSTALK)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They`re reporting that they were asleep early in the morning. When they woke up at the 8:00 o`clock, 9:00 o`clock hour, the

front door was open.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I`m just going to be honest with you because, basically, they should have been up with these kids. She said she was

asleep. When she woke up, her baby was gone.

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GRACE: Wondering, wondering, Where is my baby? They go look at the mom in the middle of the night, and the mother finds her on her knees

praying, God, bring Leaona back to me.

This child is now missing. We`re now into day four. Where is Leaona?

[20:20:06]I want to go to Pat Lalama, investigative reporter. What can you tell me?

PAT LALAMA, INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER: Well, I can tell you that I was on the phone talking to the sheriff`s department, asking what about the

search at this point. Now, we know they`ve done an exhaustive job trying to find this child, but at this point, Nancy, you know what they tell me?

The answer is going to be in tips from the public. They so desperately need tips from the public.

And like you say, we`re talking about a dense population in that apartment. It`s a Saturday. People aren`t working. They`re outside on

their lawns. Somebody has to know something. Please, somebody in the public needs to help answer this mystery.

GRACE: Well, here is an issue that I have. Cheryl Dorsey, retired LAPD sergeant, author of "The Creation of a Manifesto, Black and Blue."

Cheryl Dorsey, we don`t have a really good timeline the mom comes home from the wedding rehearsal and the party with her sister and the cousin who is

with us tonight. She`s exhausted. She goes straight to sleep, all right?

For all I know, the boyfriend could have already been asleep, but the baby could have been taken right after that. Nothing is telling me the

baby was taken at 6:00, 7:00, 8:00 o`clock in the morning. We don`t know when the baby was taken. That`s the thing. We don`t know if the 3-year-

old sister opened the door and the baby crawled out. We don`t know if somebody came in that door.

We don`t know how the baby got out, Cheryl.

CHERYL DORSEY, RETIRED LAPD SERGEANT: Right. And so it`s important for the officers to really start a small area of searching and then expand

out. You want to start within that residence, then you want to look at the complex. You want to look at the area surrounding the complex, and then

broaden your search because at this point, that child could be anywhere. Or she could be gone, right?

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(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

[20:25:47]UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Who`s the child`s mother?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It don`t make no sense.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It`s not making sense.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Search and rescue teams out, tracking dogs, horseback riders, sifted through mounds of garbage from the apartment.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The parents are not really saying nothing. They`re just crying and hollering.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: Where is baby Leaona? I want to go straight back out to the cousin, Laressia Sullivan, who was with the mom the evening before, just

hours before her baby goes missing. The sister, the sister who is supposed to get married the next day, Saturday at 4:00 o`clock, the whole family

gathered at the church the night before for the wedding rehearsal, the wedding dinner.

Then the girls all go out and they have a little party after, the big bachelorette party. Mommy comes home. This is very unusual for her to be

out that late. She comes home exhausted, goes straight to bed that one night. She doesn`t look at the children first, goes to sleep, oversleeps

the next morning, jumps up, Oh, my stars, I got to get ready. I got to get my hair done. it`s a wedding.

The child is gone. She`s running around -- you know that feeling when you got to get somewhere and you got to get all your children ready, and

then you? And you`re running around. And the baby is gone.

To Laressia Sullivan, joining us. Again, I want to thank you so much for being with us. You don`t know how many prayers have gone up, how many

thoughts are with this baby and her mother and the whole family, and I want you to know that during the hours that are to come.

I wanted to ask you -- the apartment, is it on the ground floor, second, third floor? What level is it?

SULLIVAN: Well, hers is on the ground floor at the back.

GRACE: OK. So it would have been entirely possible for the baby to crawl out. I was trying to figure out, would the baby have to go down or

upstairs or the baby have to get on an elevator somehow to get out.

Let me ask you another thing. I`m trying to understand the layout of the apartment, Laressia, because I`m trying to figure out if the baby got

out the door on its own and she was toddling a little bit and crawling, you know, the apartment doors, even in the back, are not that far from the

parking lot. If she were playing in that back area, anybody could have seen her and grabbed that child -- anybody, Laressia!

SULLIVAN: And it`s a wooded area back there behind the apartment complex.

GRACE: You know, I`ve been looking at that wooded area, and it looks like she has to -- would have had to crawl out and up into the woods, and

that`s hard for me to believe that the baby would have done that.

And you see the tracker dogs, the tracker and cadaver dogs have come up with nothing in that wooded area. So I don`t think the baby went to the

wooded area. I think somebody, a grown person, took this baby.

Laressia, are there any other children in the home, any older children other than the 3-year-old?

SULLIVAN: No, just the 3-year-old.

GRACE: OK, well, it`s not the 3-year-old. I can tell you that. It`s not the 3-year-old.

Also with us, Stacey Newman. Stacey, what about the trash dump? I understand there was a search of that, and it ended -- came up with

nothing.

STACEY NEWMAN, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER: Yes, well, we heard multiple dumpsters of trash from that apartment complex were picked up the day baby

Leaona went missing. So police sent search teams to a waste transfer station, which is the area it goes before it goes to the landfill, because

they wanted to check for clues before it goes to the landfill and it turns into a needle in a haystack.

GRACE: Got you. So they did that. They did exactly what Stacey Newman`s talking about, came up with nothing. Now, they, the police, Marc

Klaas, did not have any reason to think the baby had been thrown in the trash, but they were covering all their bases. I mean, this Anderson

County sheriff`s department`s been all over it. So Marc Klaas, what now?

KLAAS: Well, what now, Nancy? I mean, I think that the police have determined that the little baby didn`t walk off on its own. Now, I also

think it`s really -- I think it`s really improbable that some random person saw a little baby outside an apartment on Saturday morning and then decided

that they would take the baby and keep the baby or move the baby or kill the baby.

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The vast majority of people would do whatever they needed to do to protect that baby, so I think this is something that may have been random. Well,

not random, but it may not have been premeditated. The door may have been opened. Someone may have had access. I think the answer to this dilemma,

this mystery, lies within the confines of that apartment block.

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GRACE: A plastic surgery obsessed mother of six daughters, the mom is known as the human Barbie, not only racks up over a million dollars of

plastic surgery on herself, but gives her 7-year-old little girl $7,000 worth of plastic surgery vouchers, and she`s with us tonight.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Sarah Burge (ph) is known by some as human Barbie, reportedly undergoing 300 plastic surgery procedures.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Buy one, get one free.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And has reportedly given her daughter, then 7, $7,000 worth of plastic surgery vouchers.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Did you know that Botox can be used on young people too?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You gave your 15-year-old daughter Botox?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It was nothing to do with anything cosmetic. It was purely a medical procedure.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: Giving your child Botox? That was the teen girl, the one who had just turned 15 years old, but what about a 7-year-old being introduced

to plastic surgery? Listen to this.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Let`s talk a little bit plastic because I`m a girl that`s going places. When I grow up, I want to be a plastic surgeon

and help people look better if they`ve been in accidents or born funny. I know loads about plastic surgery, from Botox to boob jobs. And I can even

hold a consultation for young people. Did you know that Botox can be used on young people too? If they have cerebral palsy, bad, bad headaches and

sweating. And it`s good for larger wrinkles too. This is a before picture and this is an after picture.

If you want a boob job, it`s always best to have these placed under the muscle, and don`t go too big, because otherwise it will look silly.

And if you do, does that mean you didn`t listen to me? Naughty. I know it will be a long journey from working hard at school and getting the right

qualification, and I hope you will follow me along the way. See you all later. Bye.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: That is video from thepoppyburge.com. That was the little girl I was just telling you about, 7 years old, that her mom is teaching

her about plastic surgery.

Let`s meet the so-called human Barbie. She is joining us tonight. It`s Sarah Burge. She`s had over 300 plastic surgeries. Also with us, Dr.

Paul Nassif, facial plastic and reconstructive surgeon and star of "Botched" on E. Dr. Nassif has actually turned Sarah down. It`s hard to

find a plastic surgeon that will say, hey, you are perfect like you are, I don`t hear that every day. First, before I go to Dr. Nassif, Ms. Burge,

it`s been very disturbing to many -- you`re seeing video of E! "Botched." We know you gave your girl botox. I know you`re saying it`s for medical

reasons that you gave the 15-year-old botox, and I know you don`t like being called the human Barbie, so I`m not going to go there. But why botox

for your 15-year-old?

SARAH BURGE, HAS HAD OVER 300 PLASTIC SURGERIES: Good evening, Nancy. How are you? My life seems to have become a juggling act with balls in the

air. I keep telling it how it really is, but people keep distorting the truth. And it`s all getting a little bit boring now.

I was with Dr. Nassif a few months ago. He clearly knows what happened, because I explained everything to him in his office.

GRACE: Everyone, in addition to Sarah Burge joining us, known as the human Barbie, Dr. Paul Nassif. Dr. Nassif, I would like to hear your

reaction to the so-called human Barbie, who has had between $1 and $3 million worth of plastic surgery over a period of time, bringing her 7-

year-old to a plastic surgeon`s office and giving her $7,000 worth of plastic surgery vouchers. Nassif, we don`t even say the f word in our

house, fat. Nobody says that. Here`s E!`s "Botched," right here. Go ahead, doctor.

NASSIF: Obviously when she came in with her daughter, Dr. Deville (ph) and I were a little stunned, because we`re not used to having little

kids come into these consultations.

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And after hearing her speak about her knowledge of plastic surgery -- and about botox and -- obviously, my young kids would be talking about sports

or a if it was a girl, talking about playing with her girlfriends. This was shocking to us. It is unorthodox. Then there`s $7,000 vouchers, even

though apparently she can turn them in for actual --

GRACE: Wait a minute. Kevin Serafin, is that a 7-year-old on a stripper pole? Am I seeing that? Because I think I am.

SERAFIN: Yes.

GRACE: That was just a yes, no. OK, back to you, Nassif, Dr. Paul Nassif joining us, star of E!`s "Botched." Back to the 7-year-old at the

plastic surgeon.

NASSIF: Yes, what I was saying -- it does lend the wrong way completely when you give your 7-year-old, or any little child, $7,000

voucher for plastic surgery. That`s not what you want to talk about with your children. Maybe put that money -- for example, put it in the bank.

But not talking about plastic surgery. This is going to lead a child thinking plastic surgery is the way to go, and that`s not what we want to

do.

GRACE: With me, Dr. Paul Nassif, who is a facial plastic and reconstructive surgeon. Dr. Nassif, you actually refused to do more

surgery on Sarah Burge. Why?

NASSIF: First of all, she looks fantastic. You know the story, but she was traumatized and was beat up and got multiple reconstructive --

GRACE: Hold on. I have a photo of that, Dr. Nassif. Let me warn you. This is a scary and shocking photo, but he`s right. Sarah was beaten

horribly. Let`s see the before and after shots. She almost doesn`t even look alive in this. Before and after the beating and now. After this

horrible attack on her, she had plastic surgery. Right?

NASSIF: She didn`t have the financial means. She went to different doctors. I have to tell you, they did excellent work reconstructing her

face and she looks good. She became a nurse and she does cosmetics. You know, (inaudible).

GRACE: It`s a nurse at a stripper pole, but go ahead.

NASSIF: So at that point, she started getting into the whole plastic surgery realm, and that`s when she`s had all these procedures. She had a

difficult problem. It is interesting when you hear her story and how it ties onto her children. Most of us wouldn`t do that, but it`s a very

different and it is a very unusual story that she has.

GRACE: Dr. Nassif, I`m certainly not a shrink. I`m going to go to Dr. Caryn Stark in a moment. You`re seeing Youtube video right there. I

understand why she got into plastic surgery after that horrible beating by an ex. It`s horrible. Liz, please show that. It`s scary and disturbing.

She had a horrible attack, but then she got addicted. But dragging your children into your plastic surgery addiction, that`s where it should end.

What`s the surgery that she wanted that you said no to?

NASSIF: She asked about another facelift. I have to say she`s tight but still looks natural. I said if you do anything to your face now, it

will be destroyed. You will have a horrible look. You`ll look very unnatural. Stop while you look fine. Also she wanted some rejuvenation of

her hands. And there`s really nothing exciting and new about that. So basically she`s (inaudible), absolutely not.

GRACE: Dr. Paul Nassif with us, and now joining us live is Sarah Burge, over 300 plastic surgeries. Sarah, I`m not an expert, I`m just a

trial lawyer, but you`re beautiful. You`re absolutely stunningly beautiful. What could you possibly want done to yourself because you`re

already perfect?

BURGE: Well, thank you very much, Nancy. I`m sure I could say the same about you, but, in fact, Dr. Nassif, I really do think you should come

clean about what was actually said in that office, because Poppy (ph) came in to see you because she looked up to you as a surgeon, and she wanted

advice as to how to become a plastic surgeon, and what qualifications she would need to pursue her dream. And you sat there and you spoke to her

about it. So unfortunately, the editing suite got the better of everybody, and in fact, if they had edited it anymore, I wouldn`t have been in it.

GRACE: I`m glad you told us that. Ms. Burge, another question, did you ever think 300 plastic surgeries is excessive?

BURGE: No, because I`m a (inaudible), and that`s the amount of procedures that I`ve had, not actual operations.

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I was actually put back together. So -- I had lots of reconstructive surgery over many years, and I`ve built a hugely successful career and

business out of helping others who are disfigured through accidents and domestic violence.

GRACE: I have got a question for Dr. Caryn Stark. How do you deal with this? You`re the shrink. Help me.

STARK: Her self-image is a problem, Nancy. It has nothing to do anymore with the original damage. She is as you suggested clearly addicted

to the plastic surgery. She`s giving herself fillers and botox because she`s a nurse obviously, but that`s not a good thing, and so she really

does need to get some help to find out what is the emptiness inside of her. What is she really trying to fill up?

GRACE: So Kim Serafin, entertainment journalist, explain to me the long and short of this. You`re seeing video of E!`s "Botched." Give it to

me in a nutshell.

SERAFIN: Basically, as you mentioned, this is a woman who went through a very traumatic experience, viciously beaten by her boyfriend.

Which started these reconstructive surgeries on her face, which a lot of people understand, which is great that she also took this and turned

herself into such a business woman. She went back to school, got a nursing degree, so that was great.

I think where the critics are saying maybe she is going wrong, or what people are saying about her, is it`s one thing to do this herself, but to

pass this on to your children, to basically tell your kids you`re not going to be good enough, is what people are upset about.

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GRACE: Live, Annapolis. A family moves into their dream home only to find out it is infested with thousands of snakes. Did the realtors lie?

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They heard the snakes moving in.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Kind of a swishing. It was the body of a snake. It`s insane.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The weapon of choice for decapitating multiple snakes.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: Karen Adams, reporter, WNEW. What happened?

ADAMS: Jodi and Jeffrey Brooks (ph) did everything they should. They had a home inspection done, they talked to neighbors, even discovered the

snake rumors and said they were assured by the realtor and previous homeowner, who happened to be daughter and mother, they were just that,

rumors.

GRACE: Uh-oh. Am I understanding -- whoa, hold on, Jodi Brooks, joining me right now, whose home infested with thousands of snakes. Jodi,

I understand you did everything right. But are you telling me the realtor was selling the realtor`s mother`s home? It was the realtor`s mom`s home?

JODI BROOKS: Yes, that it was.

GRACE: Okay, I just want to hear from you, Jodi. What did you do the first time you saw a snake slithering around in your home?

BROOKS: Well, sadly, we weren`t the first ones to find it. Our 4- year-old son, actually found the first snake coming out of the home. So the second two snakes we saw literally coming out of the woodwork and we

packed up and moved out.

GRACE: Oh, okay. I`m having a hard time wrapping my mind around this. Grey Stafford, director of conservation, Wildlife World Zoo, author

of "Animal Trainer," thousands of snakes? Oh, you brought it back. Thousands of -- I don`t even want to look at it! Thousands of snakes in the

home. If I found this thing under my bed, you would hear my all the way from this studio to Wildlife World Zoo, Grey Stafford. So don`t tell me

they`re not dangerous, okay? I don`t want to be around a snake. Boom.

GREY STAFFORD, ANIMAL TRAINER: Well, this is a cousin of the same snake we`re talking about in the story, and it is relatively harmless for

human beings. It`s not venomous, but, obviously, lots of snakes in the home, that`s gross, even for a longtime zoo guy like myself.

GRACE: Okay. Another thing is they eat something. They eat rats.

STAFFORD: Right.

You`re absolutely right.

GRACE: And they bring them into the home.

STAFFORD: Nancy, you`re right. And to me, that`s the part of the story that needs comment. That is, these snakes are there for a reason.

GRACE: You`re not worried about the snakes, you`re worried about the mice it`s eating.

Alex Sanchez and David Windecher, unleash the lawyers. All right, Alex Sanchez, if it turns out this realtor lied and knew about the

thousands of snakes in the home, what is your defense? You managed to get out a lot of tight situations, Sanchez. But what about this?

SANCHEZ: There are several parties involved. You have the realtor, you have the home inspector, right? So the realtor`s going to point to the

home inspector, and say, listen, we had a home inspection. You hired the home inspector. The home inspector looked and --

GRACE: Sanchez, how can you look in the mirror? It was a realtor`s mother`s own house! What about it, Windecher? How can you blame the

inspector when your own mother`s been living there? You think she didn`t know about the snakes?

WINDECHER: She probably didn`t know about the snakes, because this happened in December, and an actual expert from the Department of Natural

Resources in Maryland came out and said this is commonplace here. There are about 200 of these cases a year. These snakes, they go back into their

dens around December, when it gets cold, and they surface when it gets warm. So even if she knew, she might have cured it, and if she cured it and

they came back, she couldn`t have done anything about it.

GRACE: Okay, David Lee Windecher, and Alex Sanchez, you got me over a barrel on that one, you got me on the snake hibernation issue. Back to

Jodi Brooks, and let`s see, Gray Stafford, I want you to hear this, Gray. So Jodi, what did you do when you find out your dream -- oh, dear lord, you

find out your dream home is infested with thousands of snakes. When did you first see a snake? Or did yoU?

BROOKS: We first saw it on April 3, our first live snake that we found. We invited Home Paramount in and hired them as our pest company

early in January when we saw some new activity and we weren`t sure what it was. And they did confirm, April 14th, that we had an infestation.

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GRACE: Let`s stop and remember American hero, Marine Lance Corporal, James Higgins Jr. Just 22. Frederick, Maryland. Purple Heart, National

Defense Service Medal, loved history, World War II books. Favorite singer, Sinatra. Parents, James and Debora. Brother, Joseph. Sister, Melinda.

James Higgins Jr., American hero. And congratulations to parents Kevin and Katrina on the new baby girl. Celeste Grace, isn`t she beautiful?! Mommy

and baby. Drew up next. I`ll see you tomorrow night, 8:00 sharp, Eastern. And until then, good night, friend.

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