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Female Houdini Nearly Escapes Police. Aired 8-9:00p ET
Aired June 23, 2015 - 20:00 ET
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NANCY GRACE, HOST: Breaking news tonight, live, Greenwood. A 23- year-old woman handcuffed, hogtied, thrown to the ground, pulls off a Houdini escape, getting free of waist, leg irons and handcuffs, leading
police on a high-speed chase.
Bombshell tonight. It`s all caught on video. We have the video.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The officers used handcuffs, leg irons and a hobble to restrain her. She was put back in the patrol car. While police
were searching her car, she drove off. After a four-mile chase, Sterling crashed again.
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GRACE: And tonight, multi-million-dollar Hilton hotel heir, Paris Hilton`s brother, allegedly berserk on an airplane, handcuffed to his seat
by captain`s orders after he dismantles the bathroom smoke detector to smoke weed, threatening to kill a flight attendant, screaming, I will F-ing
own you, peasants. But the Hilton heir, subject (ph) to inherit millions and millions, walks on straight probation.
It`s not over yet. Breaking news right now. Even after kid glove treatment by one judge after the next, Hilton back in trouble, this time
violating a protective order against his ex, who claims she`s in fear for her life.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hilton heir Conrad Hilton`s ex-girlfriend, singer, actress Hunter Dailey Sulliman (ph), had gotten a restraining order against
the Hilton heir after he had showed up at her home threatening to kill himself.
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GRACE: And live, upscale Milford suburbs. It`s prom season all over America, but not for this gorgeous 16-year-old, Marin (ph) of Jonathan Law
High, the honor student stabbed dead in the hallway of her very own suburban high school. Alleged perp, her would-be junior prom date,
Christopher Plasken (ph), allegedly angry because she says no to the prom. In the last hours, the so-called prom date killer pleads insanity.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Marin she was in the National Honor Society. She helped manage the swim and softball teams. She was in the drama club and
could sing and play the guitar. But what Marin did best was being a friend.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She was amazing. She did everything right. Everybody loved her. She was always smiling.
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GRACE: Good evening. I`m Nancy Grace. I want to thank you for being with us.
Bombshell tonight, to Greenwood. A 23-year-old woman is handcuffed, hogtied, thrown to the ground. She pulls off a Houdini escape. She gets
free of waist irons, leg irons and handcuffs to lead police on a high-speed chase. It`s all caught on video. We have the video.
Liz, please re-rack it and take it from the top in full. Take a look at this 23-year-old woman. There you see the Greenwood police arriving.
They arrive there at the scene of a domestic dispute. And for once, the man is not the attacker.
This woman, 23-year-old Jessica Sterling, in a rage, comes after her lover, crashes into a car, then head-butts a police officer. I was
wondering myself how her head -- how her forehead was cut, when I find out she head-butts an officer.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Pick her up. There we go.
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GRACE: She`s crying now, but don`t feel too sorry for her yet. She just said, My car was stolen. P.S., that was an empty bottle of Cinerator
cinnamon-flavored whiskey in the front of the car.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE) that car is flipped over, smoking.
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[20:05:05]GRACE: Yes, she crashed a police car, and it`s on a gas line.
Straight out to Darren "Maverick" Minor, news director at KWHN. Darren, thank you so much for being with us. When I first saw the video, I
couldn`t believe, why did police have to throw down this tiny, little bitty lady, this 23-year-old Jessica Sterling. Why was her head bleeding? She`s
crying. She`s begging for mercy. She says her car is stolen. But then I found out the whole story.
Darren, what happened?
DARREN "MAVERICK" MINOR, KWHN (via telephone): And she wants to get shot, Nancy. She continually says, Shoot me. Yes, it`s an amazing story,
and it`s one that`s really captivated this entire area. (INAUDIBLE) on the video, she`s a tough -- she`s a tough little girl for 23 years old.
She evidently had had some problems with her significant other. If you look at her Facebook page -- I started researching (INAUDIBLE) posts
she made about how she was going to be able to go on with her life without this relationship (INAUDIBLE)
GRACE: Hold on just a second, Darren. I`m having a hard time hearing you.
While we clear up his satellite, let`s go to Chief Will Dawson, special guest joining us, chief of the Greenwood Police Department.
Chief Dawson, man, this is quite a story. How did it all unfold? I know for one thing that they took out an empty bottle of Cinerator whiskey
out of the front of her car. How did she end up head-butting a police officer, and how -- oh, yes -- and how did she manage to escape, being
hogtied, get through the partition between the front and the back and steal a car, Chief?
CHIEF WILL DAWSON, GREENWOOD POLICE DEPARTMENT (via telephone): Officers were on scene of a domestic call originally, and she showed up and
fled (ph) from officers there. She had struck a car in that parking lot and left. It was a short, very short pursuit, about an eighth of a mile
before she crashed into that fence where you see the video beginning there.
While they`re investigating that accident scene, she`s trying to break out the back window. They go to open up the door, and she jumps out and
head-butts a deputy that`s on scene.
And she`s on the ground there. That`s right after the head-butt occurred. And they`re trying to, you know, get her back in custody. She
had gotten the cuffs in front of her.
At that time, they decided to put leg irons on and a hobble and then put her back in the police car. Somehow, she`s able to untie the hobble,
able to get her handcuffs back in front of her again, and open up the (INAUDIBLE) partition that separates the back seat from the front seat.
And then as you can see in the video, she took off with our (INAUDIBLE)
GRACE: Well, you know -- with me is Chief Will Dawson, the chief of the Greenwood Police Department.
Take a look at this woman. You would never believe that this is the same woman who had just downed a whole bottle of cinnamon-flavored whiskey
and head-butted a cop, who manages to get through a tiny partition between the back and the front of a squad car.
Isn`t it true, Matt Zarell, on the story, that police even leave the air-conditioning on, they leave the car running so she won`t get too hot?
And because the car is running, she steals the car. Take it from the top, Matt. What happened?
MATT ZARRELL, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER (via telephone): Yes, so police say officers initially responded to a call. They made contact with the
victim, who is this woman`s estranged boyfriend, who said that Sterling pulled into the parking lot, was upset with him, crashed into the
roommate`s car, gets out of the car and attacks the boyfriend, strikes him out of anger, and then she flees.
The boyfriend, the victim, then calls police. As police are talking to the victim, Sterling then comes back in her car. She sees the cop cars
talking to the boyfriend. She immediately backs her car out, runs away and starts this is pursuit.
GRACE: Unleash the lawyers, Gary Casimir, Troy Slayten. Let`s see that still you made for me, Liz. It`s an 11-inch by a 12-inch opening.
It`s even smaller than a cat door, a cat flap, a kitty door you`d have in your home door. She managed to scrawl through that.
To you, Troy Slayten. Very rarely do you see women handcuffed, leg ironed and hobbled, get through it. What`s your defense, Slayten? Not
only did she lead police on a high-speed chase, she crashed into a gas main.
TROY SLAYTEN, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Nancy, she`s clearly -- she`s clearly suffering from mental illness, Nancy. I mean, she was asking to be shot.
When the police were trying to...
GRACE: She was drunk.
SLAYTEN: ... extricate her from the car...
GRACE: She was three sheets to the wind.
SLAYTEN: ... she was saying to them, Shoot me. Shoot me. You can be drunk but not ask police officers in a high-energy situation like that to
shoot you. So...
[20:10:06]GRACE: OK, hold on right there.
SLAYTEN: ... she needs to be psychologically evaluated.
GRACE: Right there. To Chief Will Dawson from the Greenwood Police Department. We`ve done a little checking on her. Isn`t it true she`s got
a rap sheet as long as my arm? Most of them -- several of them are domestic batteries, where in this unusual table-turn, it`s the woman
attacking the man. 2012, domestic battery, third degree, dismissed. `13, domestic battery, third degree, one year suspended sentence. `14, theft of
property, one year suspended sentence.
Chief, isn`t it true she was in a rage? She went to her lover`s apartment, the same guy that`s been the victim in the past, angry, angry,
angry. Look at these mug shots! She looks like Reese Witherspoon, for Pete`s sake!
So long story short, she gets there and plows into somebody else`s car, crashes, sees her lover, goes after him, attacks him. And that`s when
the cops get there, Chief?
DAWSON: That kind of sums it up. You know, there`s obviously some issues here. We have -- you know, at the final crash site, she`s trying to
remove our assault rifle from the gun rack and...
GRACE: Wait a minute! Chief Will Dawson, did I hear you correctly? She was trying to remove the police assault rifle from the car?
DAWSON: Yes. The gun was in the rack, secured. She was trying to remove it from the rack and actually had to be tased to get extricated from
the car.
GRACE: Unleash the lawyers...
DAWSON: ... Gary Casimir, Troy Slayten. All right, Casimir, what`s your defense? She tried to get an assault rifle.
CASIMIR: That`s right. But it was -- she was trying to commit suicide by cop here, Nancy. There`s no better effort...
GRACE: Really?
CASIMIR: ... to demonstrate that she had lost her senses, that she was having a psychotic episode. She wasn`t really reaching for that gun.
GRACE: She was drunk!
CASIMIR: She was screaming, "Shoot me," Nancy.
GRACE: She was drunk on Cinerator! Hold on.
Dr. William Morrone, forensic pathologist, Madison Heights. Do you know anything about the drink Cinerator? Ever heard of it?
DR. WILLIAM MORRONE, FORENSIC PATHOLOGIST: Well, there`s a lot of popular drinks like that, but it`s concentrated strong liquor. It`s not a
beer...
GRACE: It`s a whiskey. It`s a whiskey, Dr. Morrone. I`m sure you`re not much of a drinking man.
MORRONE: No.
GRACE: You`re spending most of your time in the morgue there. But it is...
MORRONE: I`m not.
GRACE: ... a high-proof whiskey. And she was, I think, .13 or .15 blood alcohol, all right? She`s not crazy. She`s drunk.
MORRONE: Double drunk.
GRACE: Off whiskey.
MORRONE: Right. And the problem with that is the discoordination in the -- in the muscles make her unreliable to be driving a car. But she can
dislocate her shoulders easily. And that comment about being Houdini -- 100 years ago, that`s how Harry Houdini escaped. He was able to dislocate
his shoulders and get through handcuffs.
The head-butting -- that part of the head is the thickest part of the skull. If you`re going to hit anybody, that`s where you do your damage.
GRACE: You know, when I first saw this video right here and I saw the cut on her head -- and you know, Morrone, it`s very rare that you see a
female suspect hogtied, handcuffed and leg shackles. I`m, like, Why is this poor lady being thrown in the mud? Her head`s bleeding.
Then I find out all the facts. And now I know she`s grabbing for an assault rifle. Already, attacks are being made on the cops in this case.
It`s total BS. This woman is a one-person crime wave. She was getting her little mitts on an assault rifle.
Take a look at this from beginning to end.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She`s trying to get that gun out.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She`s trying to get his rifle out of his lock back there.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Shoot me! Shoot me!
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE) We got one tased.
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[20:19:34]UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Shoot me! Shoot me (INAUDIBLE)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You`re not going to get shot. You`re not going to get shot at all. You hear me? Ma`am, turn around. Turn around.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Pick her up.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE)
[20:20:16]UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There we go.
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GRACE: Don`t feel sorry for her just yet.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She`s trying to get that gun out.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE) be advised. She`s trying to get his rifle out of his lock back there.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE) rifle!
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Shoot me! Shoot me! Shoot me!
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE) be advised. We got one tased.
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GRACE: Before you feel sorry for 23-year-old Jessica Sterling, already cops are being lambasted for treating a lady like this. Let me
advise you that she has already had several incidents where she attacks her male lover. In a table-turn, she is the aggressor in a domestic battery
situation, in a high rage at him, races into the parking lot, slams into a car, crashes an unoccupied parked car, head-butts a cop, gets hogtied.
And then in a Houdini escape -- this after she`s downed nearly a full bottle of Cinerator cinnamon-flavored high-proof whiskey -- she then crawls
through the partition between the front and back, steals the cop car -- nobody knows how she did it -- takes off on a high speed chase, crashes on
a gas main several miles away, then tries to get her mitts on the cop`s assault rifle, OK?
She`s lucky this is all that happened to her, trying to get her mitts on an AR-15 in the police cruiser. And remember, when the cops are going
to get her out, they are stepping around a gas main that she has crashed into, risking their own lives for this.
OK, unleash the lawyers, Gary Casimir, Troy Slayten.
But first to Dr. William Morrone. Dr. Morrone, it`s very rare that you see a woman in leg irons, handcuffs and a hobble, which is the chain
that comes up between your legs. But this young lady certainly is a perfect candidate for it. Explain to me what is a .13 or .15 blood alcohol
level when you`re drunk on high-proof cinnamon-flavored whiskey.
MORRONE: We use .08 as the standard for legally drunk on a national level, and that`s a number of milligrams per deciliter or a percent of
blood alcohol. (INAUDIBLE) at that level, you`re impaired for reasoning, reflexes and processing. So you cannot drive a car.
At the level she was at, she was double the level of drunk. Double the level of drunk means she`s really not processing. She may be also on
other drugs. Nobody`s talking about this, but alcohol mixed with cocaine or PCP or opiates are real popular. This could even have a greater
enhanced effect, so she could have three to four times the effect.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You`re not getting shot at all, you hear me?
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GRACE: Unleash the lawyers, Gary Casimir, Troy Slayten. The two of you have tuned (ph) up that she has a mental defect. What she`s got is
voluntary intoxication. What she was doing was assaulting a cop, stealing a cruiser, crashing the cruiser on a gas main and then trying to go for
their assault rifle at .13 blood alcohol. That`s voluntary intoxication, Casimir.
CASIMIR: Nancy, she does -- she did all those things. You`re absolutely right. But we`re (ph) trying to say here that mental illness
and alcohol abuse are mutually exclusive things. There are plenty of people who suffer from mental illness who, unfortunately, self-medicate,
use drugs, including alcohol, and it does make things worse.
This suspect here, this person that we have under arrest, has obviously got some psychotic issues, and it goes back a long way. You have
to admit there`s no doubt about that.
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[20:28:42]UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: While police were searching her car, she drove off.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE) we got a car that`s flipped over. It`s smoking.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She`s trying to get that gun out.
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GRACE: Straight out to Chief Will Dawson with the Greenwood Police Department. Chief, again, thank you for being with us. Please, Chief,
could you be the voice of reason here? Police officers, your guys, are under attack because of the way this case was handled. They did absolutely
nothing wrong.
This woman was drunk, three sheets to the wind, voluntary intoxication on Cinerator high-proof whiskey, head-butted a police officer, crashed into
a car, attacked her lover -- and it`s not the first time -- and takes off in a police cruiser, crashes it into a gas main, and tries to steal an
assault rifle!
Now they are suggesting she`s got a mental illness. She`s drunk. That`s what she`s got!
DAWSON: Nancy, we -- I think our guys handled themselves well. If you listen to the video, they remain calm and do what they need to do. We
didn`t see any issues with how they treated her. So there`s nothing on our end as far as (INAUDIBLE)
GRACE: Absolutely. And not only that, they even leave the car running so the air-condition will be on her, so she won`t get hot. As
she`s screaming, you hear them comforting her, saying, You`re not going to get shot. You`re not going to get shot. They lay her on the car seat, the
cushioned car seat in the Cruiser, leaving the car running for her, so she won`t be hot, and what does she do? Take off. This is not a case of
insanity. If anything, your guys should be commended. Back to Casimir and Slaten. You know, Troy Slaten. Do you have children?
SLATEN: I do.
GRACE: Well, how would you like it if your wife is riding down the street one morning, and they meet up with this woman, 23-year-old Jessica
Sterling, high as a kite on half a jug of Cinerator whiskey, driving like mad in a stolen cruiser. I can`t think of one thing these police officers
did wrong. They probably saved untold lives by stopping this woman. How would you like your wife and children to meet up with this piece of work?
SLATEN: They clearly didn`t secure her well enough, because she was able to get out of the hobbling. But Nancy, a 0.13 is not that high. The
level for being DUI in California used to be a .15. A .13 doesn`t mean she was drunk.
GRACE: Stop. Let me clarify something that you just said. You said used to be. What is the DUI limit in your jurisdiction of California right
now? Something like 0.08?
SLATEN: It`s .08. But that`s for driving. That doesn`t mean you are drunk, that does not mean you can`t care for yourself.
GRACE: OK. Was this woman driving? Was she driving?
SLATEN: Yes. Of course she`s driving.
GRACE: And she was driving a stolen police cruiser. And she was .13, the BAC -- blood alcohol standard is .08 across this country. So what
exactly are you trying to argue right now?
SLATEN: I`m saying that other things were going on. Just because you`re a .13 doesn`t mean you can`t care for yourself or others. It means
you shouldn`t be driving. It does not mean that you`re requesting that she was asking the police to shoot her.
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CASIMIR: You have no sympathy for this defendant.
GRACE: No, I have none.
CASIMIR: You have none, and that`s why you can`t see that mental illness does exist. You don`t know her background. You don`t know what
has happened to her. If you heard her story that involved some traumatic event, like a lot of people who are homeless and abuse alcohol, you`d have
a different opinion.
GRACE: She is not homeless.
CASIMIR: You don`t know that.
GRACE: Yes, I do know that.
CASIMIR: No, you don`t know.
GRACE: Yes, I do. I know she`s got a full-time job and she`s not homeless. Chief Dawson, please help me. Please help me. This woman is
not homeless.
DAWSON: The legal limit is .05 here in Arkansas.
GRACE: Oh, then she`s almost three times the legal limit.
DAWSON: Three accidents at .05.
GRACE: Hold on. This woman is not insane, I agree with Chief Dawson. Matt Zarrell, what can you tell me about her Facebook postings?
ZARRELL: She has got a number of Facebook postings. A couple that was actually just a couple of hours before this incident. First on June
16, 2:51, you see watching the storm. She posted a photo of herself. The next one, it says a perfect marriage is just two imperfect people, who
refuse to give up on each other. Then next, in April of a couple of years ago. This is what my truck looks like now. Hydroplaned and hit a light
pole. It would never have happened if I hadn`t been chased by the guy I was leaving.
GRACE: I`m sure alcohol had nothing to do with that.
ZARRELL: No, nothing to do with that. The next screen is June 4. She says love my guns. Plenty more rifles before too long. Lol. Just got
to have them. She also says the police pulled me over and asked do you know how fast you were going? I said obviously not fast enough, because you
caught me.
Then there is another post. You`re either on my side, by my side or in my damn way. Choose wisely. And then she says, I might look nice on
the outside, but I wouldn`t test me. I have my limits and I`m not all that nice. I`ll be as nice as I wanna be and as mean as I wanna be. I can be
and have been known to be a true bitch. But not very often.
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GRACE: Multimillion dollar Hilton hotel heir, Paris Hilton`s brother, allegedly going berserk on an airplane, ending up handcuffed to a seat by
captain`s orders after he dismantles the bathroom smoke detector to smoke weed. Then threatens to kill the flight attendant, screaming I will f`ing
own you, peasant.
Breaking news right now. Even after kid glove treatment by one judge after the next, multi millionaire Hilton back in trouble, this time he`s
violating a protective order against him, filed by his ex, who claims she is in fear for her life.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Paris Hilton`s brother Conrad, who was just sentenced to probation for his mile-high violent outburst on an
international flight, was arrested for allegedly violating a restraining order when she showed up at his ex`s Hollywood Hills house.
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GRACE: Straight out to Candace Trunzo, senior news editor at Dailymail.com. This is what I don`t get. After all of his incidents,
didn`t he lead police on a chase in L.A. County? Then he had the incident on a plane. That`s with a federal judge threatening to kill flight
attendants, dismantling smoke detectors, smoking weed on an international flight. Gets straight probation on that again. Always is happy to remind
people his father will buy him out of whatever trouble he gets into. Now he`s back at the home of an ex, and he is threatening her, telling her she
has to get a TPO protective order against him. Threatening to come to her house and commit suicide. This girl says, Hunter Salomon, says he comes
over, she can`t make him leave. He won`t stay away. Why is that not a revocation of his probation offense?
TRUNZO: It`s certainly going to be. He was just in court last week. The judge told him, don`t commit any more crimes. You`re going to jail.
He got off light on this mile-high business, where he was threatening and really horrible to passengers and crew. He got off with a $5,000 fine on
that. He`s supposed to be taking drug tests twice a week. Three years probation, community service, and he actually has the audacity to go back
to this girlfriend. I mean, she`s only 19. He`s 21. He goes to this girlfriend and he just can`t stay away from her. He violates a restraining
order, and now he`s on probation again. It`s amazing.
GRACE: To Kim Serafin, senior editor, "In Touch Weekly." What do we know? What happened? I still don`t understand why this probation hasn`t
been revoked, other than he`s rich. If this were one of us, we would be in jail.
SERAFIN: Yes, and as you mentioned, this is just a series of incidents he has been involved in. This coming just a week, days after his
sentencing for the incident on the international flight from London to LA. He also just recently turned himself in for that high-speed chase, that you
mentioned, where he led police on this high-speed chase. He`s due back in court on July 14 for that. This is just a series of event after event
after event where he keeps getting into trouble.
GRACE: I don`t think judges understand what this does to everybody else. All the regular people whose fathers are not millionaires, that
can`t buy them out of trouble. Liz, let`s see some of the things that he stated about his father getting him out of trouble. How he called
everybody else on the plane f`ing peasants and that he would own them on. I`m going to f`ing kill you. One of the many things he said. I will f`ing
rip through you. I will f`ing own you. I will f`ing own anyone on this flight. They are f`ing peasants. I can get you all fired in five minutes.
I know your boss. My father will pay this out. He`s done it before. Daddy paid $300,000 last time. I will f`ing bury you. Do you want to hit
me now? I told all of them I could get all their jobs taken away in less than 30 seconds. I went off on him to a point where he had to leave the
room and was so embarrassed. I shouted in front of his colleagues, it was brutal, but he deserved it. It goes on and on. I 100 percent would have
killed him. Leading police on a high-speed chase. Threatening to kill flight attendants. And now this. Justin Freiman, what`s going on? Why is
it? Because his dad is a Hilton heir? Because he`s a Hilton heir? Because of Paris Hilton? I don`t get it. Why?
FREIMAN: Nancy, you may be correct. He`s a Hilton heir. He`s very famous. Money can go a long way, I guess, in California. He does seem to
walk out of jail quite often with a hand slap.
GRACE: What happened this time? What exactly happened? Why does this girl have a protective order against a Hilton millionaire?
FREIMAN: Apparently he`s shown up to her house in the past even though he wasn`t supposed to be there, to the point where she was
frightened of him, and did get a temporary restraining order, less than a week before he showed up again.
GRACE: Unleash the lawyers. Casimir and Slaten, all right, to you, Slaten. Why should his probation not be revoked?
SLATEN: We don`t know whether or not he was actually served with the protective order.
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The reports are that it was just issued, days before he allegedly violated it. In order for the restraining order to be effective, he has to be
personally served with it. So we don`t know that. But regardless, this is a young man who needs intense drug, alcohol and psychological treatment.
GRACE: Put him up. Is that what you two claim every time you have a criminal case? They`re crazy. Casimir, is that what you always claim?
CASIMIR: Not always, Nancy. But I disagree with you here on, one, you don`t know all the facts. And you`re saying this man broke into a
home. Hunter Salomon, daughter of Rick Salomon, also a very rich man. I think he owns a poker website. He won millions of dollars and married
several beautiful women out in LA.
GRACE: What does that mean to me?
CASIMIR: I`m sure they have a lot more security than Conrad can get into a private home of this kind without some easy access or some access
being given to him.
GRACE: What is your point? There is a TPO against him, so what difference does it make if he broke in or walked in?
CASIMIR: The question is, was he invited into the house, and then they changed their minds?
GRACE: She called police on him.
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GRACE: Why would she invite him in and then call police?
CASIMIR: We don`t have all the facts, Nancy, and you don`t have all the answers.
GRACE: Neither do you, apparently. Because this girl took out a TPO against this Hilton heir. He shows up anyway. Dr. Ish Major,
psychiatrist, author of "Little White Lies," why would one judge after the next keep giving this guy a free ride? Because of money?
MAJOR: Well, Nancy, we`ve seen this pattern of behavior before. I call it the Lohan syndrome. We have got this heightened sense of
entitlement, this repeated pattern of behavior because of who you are, your celebrity status, your wealth. Nobody in your immediate peer group is
going to correct your behavior. Nobody wants to displease you and tell you no. And a lot of times their livelihood is dependent on you. There`s no
negative consequences, so this pattern of behavior just escalates.
Now, the other thing I wonder if it is not going on here with this dysfunctional pattern of relationship is that if there`s not some type of
mental illness going on here, is there not a significant personality disorder going on here, with this behavior going on? I think we`re missing
something. There`s more to this story that`s fueling this fire.
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GRACE: Live, upscale Milford suburbs, prom season all over America, but not for gorgeous 16-year-old Maren of Jonathan Low High (ph). The
honor student stabbed dead in the hallway of her very own suburban high school. The alleged perp, her would-be junior prom date, Christopher
Plaskon, allegedly angry because she says no to the prom. Well, in the last hours, the so-called prom date killer pleads insanity.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Police say high school junior, Maren Sanchez, was attacked by a classmate. She was slashed in the neck, chest, and face.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Maren should be celebrating at her prom this evening, with her friends and classmates. Instead, we are mourning her
death.
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GRACE: This story is heartbreaking. This girl is scrubbed in sunshine. An honor student, parents so proud. Prom season, she says no to
a guy, Christopher Plaskon. And according to police, he stabs her dead. Dan O`Donnell, anchor, WISN, what happened?
DAN O`DONNELL, ANCHOR, WISN: Well, we know at some point before the junior prom, Christopher asked Maren to be his date. She said no, and then
on the morning of the prom, this dance was held on a Friday instead of the typical Saturday at many schools, he attacked her in a stairwell at the
school, and as you said, just a vicious, vicious attack that was apparently motivated by that rejection, took her life.
GRACE: I am sick. Dr. Morrone, we both have children.
MORRONE: Yes.
GRACE: And when you think of the love, the hopes, the dreams, the effort 24/7, 365, that we pour into our children, to have this happen to
this little girl, at school! What were her injuries? What happened, doctor?
MORRONE: Anytime somebody takes knife wounds to the three critical areas, the face, the neck and the chest, the most fatal injuries come from
the neck, because your skin covering the carotid arteries and the jugular veins is only about a quarter to three-quarters of an inch of fat and
connective tissues. As soon as you hit those major pressure problems and you bleed all over. The wounds to the face are not fatal, the wounds to
the chest, the chest is protected by bones, but those neck wounds, and neck wounds are also very symbolic of anger and detonated negative emotions.
But that`s where the bulk of the damage is done, in the neck.
GRACE: You know, Justin Freiman, this is not insanity. He was angry. She never considered going to the prom with him. There was an immediate
rejection, and he couldn`t take it. It was pure anger and revenge. What do we know, Justin?
FREIMAN: We know that after he actually did the stabbing, witnesses say that he had what seemed like a dead look on his face. And then when
the officials actually go up to him at the school, he said to them, I did it, just arrest me.
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GRACE: Let`s stop, everyone, and remember American hero, Cincinnati police officer, Sonny Kim, just 48, killed in the line of duty. Kim
serving 27 years. Loved riding bike trails, sending funny selfies to his son. A University of Cincinnati graduate. The school honoring him with
free tuition to his three sons. He leaves behind his widow, Jessica, his sons, Tim, Joshua, and Jacob. Sonny Kim, American hero.
Everyone, again, thank you for being with us tonight. I`ll see you tomorrow night, 8:00 sharp Eastern. Until then, good night, friend.
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