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Man and Dog Rip Off Ex`s Scalp/Fiancee Blames 8-year-old For Baby`s Death. Aired 8-9:00p ET
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NANCY GRACE, HOST: Breaking news now. Live to Walton, Kentucky. Warning, graphic photos. Twenty-six-year-old Marilyn Stanley enduring
multiple surgeries after she`s literally scalped. Reports her ex orders his pitbull to attack, leaving the blond beauty barely alive, ripping over
80 percent of her scalp off her head.
Bombshell tonight. As we go to air, the 26-year-old back in surgery. And we dig deep, uncovering her ex`s rap sheet showing aggravated assault
on another woman. Did she have any idea she was sleeping with the enemy?
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Seventy percent of her daughter`s scalp was ripped off in a violent attack.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE) closes both her eyes (INAUDIBLE) baseball, breaking ribs.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The dog ripped her ear off.
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GRACE: And live, Norfolk, Virginia. A girlfriend finally scores an engagement ring, but now reports the very day he proposes on bended knee,
evil stepmommy shakes her fiance`s baby girl to death.
Breaking now, baby Anna Bell`s then 8-year-old sister on the stand, clutching a handful of Kleenex and a tiny stuffed animal. Evil stepmommy`s
defense lawyer attacks!
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: According to medical experts, 20-month-old Anna Bell died from injuries caused by shaking and slamming, charged (ph) Emily
DeFries, the fiancee of the toddler`s father, and a sister testified she remembers seeing DeFries standing over the child`s lifeless body, crying.
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GRACE: And live, upscale gated community, San Diego suburbs. A young stay-at-home mom of three, ages just 8, 6, and 18 months, all three
children playing downstairs when they hear a thud upstairs.
Mommy then takes all three kids to a spur-of-the-moment play date to a neighbor`s, then to surprise her sister. After disappearing for hours,
Mommy reemerges only when cops show up to their two-story dream house, discovering the source of that thud was Daddy, barricaded in the bedroom,
shot dead, face down on the bedroom floor.
In the last hours, we obtain chilling cell phone video taken by Mommy of hubby berating her about her looks just before she shoots him dead.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE) tell me about it. Why not good?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Because I really don`t want to be here!
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Prosecutors say Julie Harper (ph) shot and killed her husband of 10 years, Jason Harper (ph).
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I don`t like her.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Why not?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Because she killed my father.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: And heartbreak, a married couple lose all three of their little children, 2, 5 and 9 years old, after a billionaire`s son, still
drunk from a Vegas party, gets off his private jet, slams his SUV into the children driving with Grandma and Grandpa. In the last hours, Grandpa,
too, loses his fight for life. He`s dead.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Three children, ages 9, 5 and 2, were killed in a collision.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The driver of the SUV, 29-year-old Marco Musso (ph), faced 18 charges, including impaired driving causing death. Musso is
part of a prominent family...
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They never went to bed angry. They made a point of saying to each other, you know, like, I love you.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: A Centennial man tells a little schoolgirl he`s a, quote, "sexology student" who needs to have sex with a virgin to complete his
research. After luring the little girl on Facebook, he shows up to grab the girl in a van packed with condoms, sex toys, two videocameras, fake
permission slips from his fake professor -- and get this -- fake rose petals.
Hello, everybody. I`m Nancy Grace. I want to thank you for being with us.
Bombshell tonight. Live to Walton, Kentucky. Warning, graphic photos. Twenty-six-year-old Marilyn Stanley at this moment is enduring yet
another surgery after she is literally scalped. Her ex allegedly orders his pitbull to attack her. Then he takes a knife to her head, leaving the
blond beauty barely alive, ripping off over 80 percent of her scalp off her head. Again, at this hour, Marilyn is back in surgery.
We research through the night, digging deep, and uncover this guy`s criminal history. His rap sheet shows another aggravated assault on
another woman. Did Marilyn have any idea who she was sleeping with? And I`ve got to warn you again we are showing graphic photos.
[20:05:04]Rita Cosby, investigative journalist, WABC host -- Rita, this is horrific. She`s back in surgery right now, another surgery, and
she`s already endured so many surgeries to save her life. What`s happening?
RITA COSBY, INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER: It is a horrible story, a vicious cruelty, Nancy! Marilyn Stanley, 26, goes over to her ex-boyfriend`s
house. It`s in the middle of the day. They go to McDonald`s.
She thinks it`s just a casual meal, goes to his house. They`re eating French fries, and then she said he suddenly starts punching her over a
Facebook post, and then continuously punches her, takes her into the bedroom, and when she tries to defend herself with a knife, he then sics
the pitbull dog on her.
The pitbull bites off her ear. And also then he actually scalps her, leaving part of her scalp in a plastic bag that he ultimately takes over
when he drops her off in the front yard of his mother`s house. Unbelievable!
GRACE: You know, Dr. Paul Nassif, plastic surgeon and star of E`s "Botched" -- Dr. Nassif, thank you for being with us. She`s back in a
surgery right now. I thought her surgeries were behind her. That`s not true.
What could go wrong, Dr. Nassif? Why is she back in surgery? I`m afraid the woman is going to die.
DR. PAUL NASSIF, PLASTIC SURGEON (via telephone): You know, Nancy, hopefully, that`s not going to happen. The thing is, is that since the
tissue was taken off the scalp...
GRACE: Wait a minute, Dr. Nassif. Dr. Nassif, you know, I`m a big fan of yours, but I`ve just got to tell you, the woman has been scalped.
It`s a modern-day scalping, all right? She`s had multiple surgeries. She`s back in right now. I don`t know why. So it`s kind of hard for me to
believe that nothing could go wrong, all right?
Who would predict she would be scalped and end up -- she -- her whole scalp is torn off her head, Dr. Nassif!
NASSIF: Yes, and that`s something that none of us could ever even see that happening because that`s horrible to even think about this. But I
will tell you, she has, I`m sorry to say, but multiple surgeries in the future to reconstruct whatever they can do with the scalp, and she`ll never
be able to have hair in this area again.
And the biggest thing is they have to find something good to cover her skull. That`s the biggest thing that she`s probably going through right
now.
GRACE: Justin Freiman, we dig deep through the night and find out this guy, Zachary Gross -- and let me just put it all out there --
allegedly -- allegedly, he sics his pitbull on her. Allegedly, he then shows her the knife and scalps her head.
I`m going to go back to Dr. Nassif and Dr. DuPre to explain to me -- hey, all of these are mug shots! Whoa! I thought he only had one prior.
I`m seeing one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight -- are there 12? Have I seen 12 mug shots? Did I see that, Justin?
JUSTIN FREIMAN, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER (via telephone): Nancy, he does have multiple. But I got to tell you, the 2007 incident really caught my
eye. He was busted on domestic violence. He actually hit a woman that he was living with, causing a cut on her right ear.
GRACE: Now, was that the aggravated assault?
FREIMAN: That was, Nancy.
GRACE: Take a look at this guy, everybody, this arrest record -- burglary, disorderly conduct, spouse abuse 2007. There`s so many, I
couldn`t even go through them, they were going so fast. We don`t have time to go through all of them.
I wonder -- Melissa Neeley joining me, WLW -- as we`re waiting for her, Marilyn, to get out of surgery, I wonder if she had any idea who she
was with. You know he did not tell her about all of these entries in his rap sheet.
MELISSA NEELEY, WLW (via telephone): I don`t think that she knew the full extent of his past. But according to her family, at least, there was
some history of abuse between the two of them that obviously escalated in this incident to a vicious attack. So at this point in time, that`s what
we know about prior in their relationship.
GRACE: To Dr. Paul Nassif, plastic surgeon joining us, star of E`s "Botched." Dr. Nassif, how does a doctor know -- how can you look at this
woman`s scalp -- she`s just 26 years old. How can you know that the scalping of her was due to the boyfriend, the ex holding the knife, or the
pitbull?
NASSIF: Well, Nancy, if it`s a very clean-edged wound, it looks like that there was a knife (INAUDIBLE) would be perfectly cut, not ragged, not
jagged, not gnawed through, then you would know that it`s more of a surgical or a knife cut. Otherwise, the dog, if he just ripped it...
GRACE: So when you...
NASSIF: Go ahead. I`m sorry.
[20:10:04]GRACE: So when you look at the injury, Dr. Nassif, you can tell if it`s done with a blade or if it`s been ripped by, for instance, a
pitbull? You can tell that surgically?
NASSIF: Yes. Absolutely. During the exam, you can.
GRACE: You know, another thing about this, Justin Freiman, with all of these entries in his rap sheet -- let`s just take a look. Let`s just
take a stroll through all of his mug shots.
Why was he out of jail? He`s got 12 entries in his rap sheet, and he`s out? And he`s got a pitbull and a knife in his hand? How did that
happen?
FREIMAN: Nancy, he was out. And actually, he had been violent, apparently, in the past with this victim. She even said that he was
violent in the past, but she stuck with him.
GRACE: Joining me is forensic psychiatrist Dr. Daniel Bober. Now, Dr. Bober -- joining me out of Ft. Lauderdale -- I worked for 10 years on
the domestic abuse, battered women`s hotline, but I`m certainly, you know, not a psychiatrist or a psychologist.
So they -- he had been violent with her in the past. She was in the process of breaking up, is my understanding. So I also believe that when
the woman tries to leave or gets pregnant, the violence escalates. What do you know about that?
DR. DANIEL BOBER, FORENSIC PSYCHIATRIST: That, actually, Nancy, is the most dangerous time in a relationship, is when the breakup is
occurring. That is when violence occurs the most. And when you consider that one out of every four women will be a victim of domestic violence
sometime in their life, you can see where this is a significant public health threat.
GRACE: Well, another thing -- so often, Rita, when there`s one incident, the woman will blame herself. She doesn`t want to admit that
she`s made a bad decision with this guy. And so she`s doubting herself. She stays in it.
And hold on. Let me go to the lines, Rita. Stay with me.
Out to Trudy. Hi, Trudy. What`s your question?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hi. I`m wondering if criminal charges can be pressed against Zach, the abuser, for the fact he trained the dog to attack
a human being.
GRACE: OK, you know what`s crazy, Trudy, is I`ve got in my notes right here, a dog has to be trained to do something like that. A dog just
doesn`t attack people in this manner without being trained to do that.
So unleash the lawyers, Randy Zelin out of New York and Marla Chicotsky out of Ft. Lauderdale.
OK, first to you, Randy. He sics his dog on the girl to start with. That`s the whole thing starts, Randy. In my mind, that could be grounds
for an aggravated assault, or maybe with the scalping, an attempted murder charge, Randy.
RANDY ZELIN, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Well, certainly -- and again, it`s just an allegation, and from a defense perspective, the defense would be,
Listen, the dog acted on its own. But using your fact pattern, certainly, the dog -- you have the crime of harboring a dangerous animal, if, in fact,
the dog is shown to have had violent propensities. And the dog -- if it`s a weapon, that would be part of an aggravated assault charge.
GRACE: What about it, Marla? I mean, the woman says -- her testimony -- look, she didn`t scalp herself, OK? She`s had 80 percent of her scalp
torn off her head. According to Nassif, the star of "Botched" -- he`s a renowned plastic surgeon -- if they do a skin graft from her body on her
head, she`ll never grow that hair there again.
Put the lawyers back up, please. And Marla, I don`t know if you got this fact.
Rita -- Rita Cosby, WABC host, isn`t it true that Marilyn -- who`s in surgery right now, everybody, so we can send our prayers up for Marilyn
Stanley -- didn`t she say that after her ex scalps her head, the top of her head off, he holds a mirror up to her and says, Hey, you`re not so pretty
now, right?
COSBY: Yes, he actually takes her over to the mirror and says, Take a look. It`s unbelievable! Also, Nancy, she had a cracked rib, she had a
broken nose, and her eyes were so swollen, they were the size of baseballs.
GRACE: So Marla Chicotsky, even if we don`t go with ordering the dog to attack, per Trudy`s question, this is more than an ag assault to me.
This is attempted murder, Marla.
MARLA CHICOTSKY, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Nancy, I agree. And I don`t want to say that this dog was doing anything because that dog, like this victim,
is an innocent victim. I own a pitbull. It is definitely what the trainer does that causes behaviors.
The woman and Dr. Nassif said that you could tell what injuries are from a knife and what potentially is from the dog. We don`t have anything
that says that it`s from the dog besides the story of her, and she at this point is...
GRACE: Oh, OK. Maybe she did it to herself, Marla. Melissa Neeley, WLW...
CHICOTSKY: No, it`s human!
[20:15:00]GRACE: ... do we know why she`s in the hospital as we go to air right now? Why is she back in surgery?
NEELEY: Well, I mean, her injuries were extensive, as we`ve already covered. And as the doctor said, I mean, she`s going to have to have
multiple surgeries on her just to be able to even begin to repair some of the damage, which, you know, as he said, she will never grow her hair back.
I mean, she will never. She will always have to have a wig or a scarf or something. She is damaged permanently for the rest of her life.
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GRACE: Live, Norfolk, Virginia. A girlfriend finally scores an engagement ring, but now reports the very day he proposes on bended knee,
evil stepmommy shakes her fiance`s baby girl to death. Breaking right now. Baby Anna Bell`s then 8-year-old sister on the stand, the little girl
clutching a handful of Kleenex and a tiny stuffed animal. Evil stepmommy`s defense lawyer attacks.
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[20:20:16]UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The defense has argued that Anna`s injuries were actually caused by her 8-year-old sister. Now that young
girl has taken the witness stand, saying she never hit her little sister. Prosecutors believe that 20-month-old Anna Bell was actually killed by
Emily DeFries, the child`s father`s fiancee.
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GRACE: To Bob Matthews, news anchor, WNIS -- the little then 8-year- old girl takes the stand? It`s my understanding she tells police that she finds her little 20-month-old sister, Anna Bell, at the bottom of the
stairs with DeFries, her new stepmommy, standing over her crying. And the state calls the little girl to the stand?
BOB MATTHEWS, WNIS (via telephone): Yes, that`s right, Nancy. That`s James Brocholetti (ph), the defense attorney. That`s what he`s basing his
case on, saying that it`s not anything that any of us want to see, the folks in the courtroom, but the fact that he claims that it was, in fact,
the sister that was the one that actually killed baby Anna Bell.
The sister did testify on the stand when asked that the two of them didn`t get along that great. But at the same time, day care workers also
said that they never saw a problem between the two girls.
And of course, as we had discussed yesterday, the injuries that baby Anna Bell suffered were not consistent with a fall down a flight of stairs
that happened to be carpeted, but rather with shaken baby syndrome.
GRACE: Let`s talk about that. Let`s talk about that, Bob Matthews. Stacey Newman, on the story, isn`t it true that there were just 13 steps
for the little girl to fall down, the little baby, 20-month-old Anna Bell, and they`re covered in carpet?
STACEY NEWMAN, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER: Totally covered in carpet. And remember, all these severe injuries she had, including multiple skull
fractures, would have come from somebody who`s stronger than an 8-year-old girl. So I`m just not buying that.
GRACE: Right. To Dr. Michelle DuPre, forensic pathologist joining us out of Columbia. Let`s talk about the autopsy report -- bruising on the
left side of the forehead, bruising on the right side of the nose, left ear, under chin, left side of jaw, skull fracture, lower back, right hip,
small of back, upper back, right, left elbow, upper thigh, left shin. It goes on and on and on, enough to kill the baby.
And I just do not believe, Dr. DuPre -- I`m with Stacey on this. I don`t believe an 8-year-old little girl can do all that.
DR. MICHELLE DUPRE, FORENSIC PATHOLOGIST: Nancy, you`re absolutely right. In addition to that, this is absolutely not consistent with falling
down the stairs. This autopsy report is chock full of evidence against falling down the stairs. This was intentional, abusive trauma.
GRACE: You know, it`s called fratricide, and fratricide is extremely rare, extremely rare. As a matter of fact, it came to the forefront, a
sibling killing a sibling, during the JonBenet Ramsey murder, and a lot of focus was put on JonBenet`s brother, Burke, who was very thin and frail,
and I never bought that Burke had anything to do with that.
The fact that an 8-year-old could have done this much damage? Let me ask you this, Bob Matthews, the fiancee says the baby fell down the 13
carpeted steps. But then the defense is also claiming the 8-year-old beat her dead. They can`t have it both ways, Bob Matthews.
MATTHEWS: Exactly. And to me, you know, when you look at the evidence that`s been presented so far, it`s the prosecution saying that the
injuries just aren`t consistent with something that an 8-year-old can do. You were just listing off all of the injuries they found on baby Anna Bell,
and it will be interesting to see...
GRACE: Well, yes.
MATTHEWS: ... if the jury, you know, in any way believes that an 8- year-old could have caused that much damage to a 20-month-old.
GRACE: And to Dr. Daniel Bober, forensic psychologist out of Ft. Lauderdale. Another issue is the baby also died of shaken baby syndrome,
from her brain getting hit against the front and the back of her head as it`s shaken. A, I don`t think an 8-year-old little girl could do that.
And B, the likelihood of fratricide -- is the technical term of sibling homicide -- it`s so rare, especially in an 8-year-old little girl, Dr.
Bober, it`s unheard of.
[20:25:06]BOBER: Yes, I agree with you, Nancy, it is unheard of. Whether she would have the physical strength to actually inflict such an
injury is highly questionable. And really, putting her on the stand is rife with so many problems, not to mention traumatizing her by putting her
on the stand, and also her credibility, as well.
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GRACE: On the very day she gets an engagement ring, she is now charged with shaking and beating her future husband`s baby dead.
Unleash the lawyers, Randy Zelin and Marla Chicotsky. First to you, Marla. These injuries are far, far beyond what an 8-year-old little girl
could do. What do you make of them putting her on the stand?
CHICOTSKY: Well, it`s in the judge`s discretion to put a minor child on the stand. So the lawyers prior to the trial, Nancy, as you`re aware,
have probably filed motions for inspection of that minor child to see if she was a credible witness, and if she could endure that testimony and the
cross-examination of the lawyer. So it was obviously pre-tried.
They found that there was some sort of credible defense and that the witness, the child, should be cross-examined to explore those avenues.
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GRACE: That`s not what that means. I agree with you about the decision to put the child on the stand, how it takes place. But just
because the child is on the stand does not mean that she is or is not credible. And Bob Matthews, WNIS, isn`t it true that the child says she
did not beat her little sister, that, in fact, she finds her little sister at the foot of the stairs, her body slammed, lethal attacks, lethal head
injuries, and that the fiancee is standing over the body.
MATTHEWS: That`s absolutely right, Nancy, that`s what she testified to. She did say that she was in Annabelle`s room earlier that day, but she
also said on the stand that she didn`t do anything to hurt her, and that, in fact, she found her, as you said, at the bottom of the stairs with
Dufreze standing over her.
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GRACE: Live, upscale gated community, San Diego suburbs. A young stay-at-home mom of three, ages 8, 6 and 18 months, all three children
downstairs playing when they heard a thud upstairs. Mommy then takes all three children on a spur of the moment playdate, and then decides to
surprise her sister. After disappearing for hours, mommy reemerges, only when police show up to their two-story dream home to discover the source of
that thud. It was daddy! Shot dead, face down on the bedroom floor. In the last hours, we obtained chilling cell phone video taken by mommy of
hubby berating her about her looks before he is shot dead.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She didn`t really take care of us. We were usually doing stuff on our own or with our dad. And then she -- we were
always, like, alone by ourselves.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Jake says he does recall his mom was a good mom at first until things changed.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And she said daddy just fell off a chair. And she was going to rest and go do some errands.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: Straight out to Jenny Day, reporter with CNN affiliate XETV. Jenny, thank you for being with us. I want to show this cell phone video
very quickly that mommy took. Let`s see it, Liz, before we go out to Jenny. The cell phone video that mommy took of the husband berating her
about her looks. Let`s see it.
Hold on just a moment. Still trying to pull up that cell phone video. Right now I`m showing photos of the family. Liz, let me know when we get
that cell phone video. Here it is.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Her defense played a video she recorded of one of their fights for the jury.
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GRACE: Whoa. That`s from ABC`s "Good Morning America." We got a little bit more, Liz, so let me -- tell me when you got that ready. Jenny
Day, XETV, what happened? I mean, if this guy had been abusing her, that`s one can of worms. But the fact that she never called 911. There
apparently was no fight or abuse at the time of the shooting. Flight. She takes her children and leaves without calling 911, takes them on an
impromptu playdate, withdraws like $39,000 from their account. That`s considered flight. Flight is indicia of guilt, Jenny Day.
JENNY DAY, XETV: That`s what prosecutors always had an issue with. They questioned what her behavior was after the shooting. Again, the
weapon has not even been found, ever. She just testified moments ago, we`re actually on a break from court right now, but she just testified she
not once, never called police to report any of this abuse. And like you just mentioned, she told the children that the loud thud they heard was
daddy falling out of a chair. So this has been a really interesting case - -
GRACE: Fell out of a chair? Wait. That just came out. Rita Cosby, WABC, if he fell out of a chair, how is he in the middle of attacking her?
And another thing, about the trajectory path of the bullet, she shot him one time, it went through his heart, but she shot him -- could you come to
me just for a moment, please? She shot him in his side. The bullet went in like this. So he was not coming at her at the time that she shot him.
He fell out of a chair?
COSBY: Yes, that`s what authorities are saying, and that`s what also she told the kids. Now, the kids also say when they went up to the
bedroom, Nancy, after they heard that loud thud, it was barricaded, they couldn`t get in. As you pointed out, she left with them, suddenly said
they were going to see a neighbor. The neighbor goes, what are you talking about? Beyond that also, there was also a text message sent from his phone
to his brother, saying, oh, I`ll get to mom later in the week, she`s out with the kids. And now authorities believe that she sent that text message
because they believe he was already dead at that time.
GRACE: You know what, I was just going to bring that up. Jenny Day, XETV, I think Rita Cosby is right. There was a fake text that she sent to
cover her tracks.
DAY: Well, correct, and she claims this was accidental and out of fear for her own life, but the prosecutor said just minutes ago in court,
well, if this is accidental, how does it strike him in a vital organ? And really, I can tell the jury is a little bit frustrated. When her defense
was asking her questions, she knew every answer. Prosecutors are asking questions now, and it`s always, can you rephrase that, I don`t know what
you mean.
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So, you know, of course, it is in the hands of the jury to determine if they believe her.
GRACE: Wow. Okay. Let`s take a look at her on the stand.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It was very scary to be there. He was flailing his arms above me, screaming, spitting on me, shaking his head, turning
red, slammed me up chest to the wall, face and cheek to the wall.
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GRACE: Jenny Day, joining us from the scene, XETV. A, did she have any bruises at the time police came and find daddy dead? Two, she also
claims that this father of three raped her 20 times. Was there ever a report done?
DAY: She did not specify -- there were 30 times at the least, she says, that she was raped, and then the prosecutor said, were there any
bruises, are there any markings? She said several times she was forced up against the wall. It was very violent rapes, and she`s describing this and
they said, well, did you ever bring it to the police? Were there any markings? And she said, I do not recall. I really think a lot of this
came down to money. She started making $100,000 a year and then quit her job to become a full-time mother, but there was a demand that the husband
made. He said, you must make $36,000 a year, and when money started (inaudible), she wasn`t able to bring that in, that`s when she said the
rapes started to begin.
GRACE: Just a moment. Jenny, how is it that after the husband is gunned down dead, we have reports that she had in vitro? No. 1, whose
sperm is it if he`s dead upstairs? No. 2, where did she get the money? Isn`t that like $30,000 or $40,000 a hit?
DAY: Not cheap for sure. And she also testified, you know, this is sad to even report, but she is saying that their third child was conceived
out of rape, that this was an unplanned child.
GRACE: Okay, take a listen. She is on the stand.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He was attacking me and raped me that night. Sex 11:00 p.m., fight 10 to 12 hours.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did you say anything to him as this was going on?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Stop. Just sort of collapsed initially, kind of shaking and quivering. I just didn`t know what to think. I was so upset
and so shocked, and I really didn`t want to -- didn`t want to talk to him, I didn`t want to look at him.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: Christopher Robinson, firearm expert. Chris Robinson, forensics, former crime lab director. Chris, thanks for being with us. If
she`s saying two defenses, one, self-defense, and two, accident. Okay, she wants it both ways. Tell me about the pull on this gun?
CHRIS ROBINSON, FORMER CRIME LAB DIRECTOR: The average trigger pull on these types of Derringers is about 15 pounds. It`s extremely heavy.
Also, you have to cock the hammer before you pull the trigger, so it`s a definite action when you fire this particular weapon.
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GRACE: Heartbreak. Parents lose all three of their little children, ages two, five and nine, after a billionaire`s son still drunk from a Vegas
party debacle gets off his private jet, slams his SUV into the children driving with their grandparents, and in the last hours, grandpa loses his
fight for life. He is dead.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Three children killed in a suspected drunk driving crash.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The crash happened in the middle of the afternoon at an intersection in this rural area. The black SUV smashed into this
minivan, the driver of the SUV, 29-year-old Marco Muzzo, faced 18 charges, including impaired driving causing death. In a Facebook post, that mother,
Jennifer Neville Lake, said all of my children have gone home to God with my dad.
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GRACE: You know, I can hardly even look at these children`s pictures. All three of your children. Look at that little angel. All three of your
children and your father. Dead. Drunk driver, according to police.
Now, his grandfather is a billionaire, his father is a billionaire, and here he is from a Vegas drunk in a private jet, gets out into an SUV
and slams into these three children, killing them all as they`re driving with grandmommy and granddaddy. Now, the mother of Marco Muzzo recently
was on TV. Let`s see the mom, not charged.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: -- today have lost their chi chi (ph) factor. I`m here just to step it up a notch. There has to be a party in your
mouth. People think I`m a ho because I`m sexy. These are my breasts God gave me. I go to this fabulous doctor, but I can move. You see that?
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GRACE: That is video of Marco Muzzo`s mother from liveleak.com, who has issued this family statement, the family has, about their sympathies
for the victims.
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Chris Spargo, Dailymail.com. Certainly his mother wasn`t there when he plowed into these three children. What happened?
CHRIS SPARGO, DAILYMAIL.COM: So a little after 4:00 p.m. on Sunday, these three young children who have just spent the day with their
grandparents and their great grandmother, had a great day, on the way home to see their mother so they can go back home for the day. And they`re
driving, and Marco Muzzo, allegedly speeding, alleged runs through a stop sign, allegedly drunk, slams into this van, ends up killing the three
children, their grandfather. Meanwhile, their grandmother and their great- grand mother are still in the hospital trying to recover.
GRACE: As we go to air right now, the grandfather has died. He lost his battle to live. Tony Corroto is with me, DUI expert, former cop on a
DUI task force. Tony, why is it that -- I mean, did you see their beautiful home that the suspect, Marco Muzzo lived in?
TONY CORROTO, DUI EXPERT: Yes.
GRACE: Just beautiful --
CORROTO: It was an absolutely beautiful home.
GRACE: Lap of luxury. Had everything anyone could ever want. And still DUI, according to police, and kills these three children. Weigh in,
Tony.
CORROTO: I`m sorry?
GRACE: Weigh in. What do you think?
CORROTO: You know, I think that, you know, this happens every day everywhere around the country. You know, this does not shock me
whatsoever. As long as there`s alcohol out there and you have the human element, these things are going to happen. It just happens every day. And
it`s out of our control, absolutely.
GRACE: Chris Spargo, dailymail.com, what are the details of this? I understand the family has issued their condolences.
SPARGO: Yes.
GRACE: To the victim`s family.
SPARGO: The mother saying she was very sorry for what happened, but asking the media they respect their privacy, the Muzzo`s privacy at this
time, even though this other family just lost everyone, they are concerned about their privacy being respected right now. After their son went away
to Vegas for a week, went to a bachelor party, got home on a private jet, went to a bar to drink some more, and then drove into this car killing
these people.
GRACE: Justin Freiman, what more can you tell me? I assume that he is out of jail on bond. Right?
FREIMAN: He is not currently out of jail on bond. He`s deciding that later in the week, and prosecutors have said they don`t want him released.
GRACE: Okay, guys, you`re seeing the three victims right there. I`ll let you know when we find out if this billionaire`s son gets out on bond.
I`m predicting he will.
Right now, though, breaking news, there is a manhunt, convicted killer accidentally released from prison? Justin, what happened?
FREIMAN: That`s right, Nancy. A convicted killer, Ben Jewel Johnson, was released because he had actually finished serving for one charge but
not for the more serious charges. And somehow there was a foul-up in the paperwork. He`s released. They don`t even realize this for five days, and
now we have a manhunt.
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GRACE: A Centennial man tells a little school girl he`s a sexology student who needs to have sex with a virgin to complete research, lures the
girl on Facebook, shows up to grab the girl in a van packed with condoms, sex toys, two video cameras, fake permission slips from his professor and
fake rose petals.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Breaking news, a Colorado man makes every effort he can think of to lure a 13-year-old girl he meets on Facebook to have sex
with him. He allegedly tells the girl he is a sexology student and needs to have sex with a virgin for research.
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GRACE: Michael Christian, there are a lot of mugshots for this guy. Check him out as you talk. He has been in and out, in and out on similar
incidents. What happened this time, Michael?
CHRISTIAN: Nancy, he contacted this 13-year-old girl on Facebook, according to prosecutors, and as we heard, told her that he was a sexology
student, and he needed to have sex with a virgin for educational research. She wanted nothing to do with him. She told him to stop bothering her and
she told him she was underage and she tried to block him. But he kept trying to contact her. She let her parents know. Her parents let police
know, and police entered into a sting and got him when he came to pick her up.
GRACE: Randy Zelin, Marla Chucotsky, all right, Zelin, give me your best defense.
ZELIN: Hey. Let`s lock the guy up for the rest of his life. You and me pay for it. Sentencing is not just about punishment. It`s also about
rehabilitation.
GRACE: Rehabilitation? He had 12 rap sheet photos.
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ZELIN: What have we accomplished by tossing him away?
GRACE: Well, this little girl wouldn`t have met up with him. Fake rose petals. Really?
You know what, I have got to stop and remember American hero, Marine Lance Corporal Derrick Cothran, 21, Avendale, Louisiana. Purple Heart,
National Defense Service Medal, Meritorious Service Medal, loved sports. Parents Ted and Elena, brother Theodore, sister Antoinette, widow and
childhood sweetheart, Victoria. Derrick Cothran, hero.
And tonight, please send your prayers for our friend, Erin Decharo (ph), fighting leukemia at MD Anderson, a mom of two. Erin, stay strong.
Thank you to our guests, but especially to you for being with us and inviting us into your home. Nancy Grace, signing off. I`ll see you
tomorrow night at 8:00 sharp Eastern. And until then, good night, friend.
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