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NANCY GRACE, HLN HOST: Breaking news tonight. A 34-year-old mother of two lures a 7-month pregnant 26-year-old mom-to-be to her home with a baby
clothing advertisement, then attacks her, slashing her tummy, carving the fetus out of Mommy`s stomach. The alleged perp, 34-year-old Dynel Lane --
was she willing to do anything for a new baby, even commit murder?
Breaking tonight. No murder charges? That`s right. I guess in Colorado, you can hunt down a pregnant mom, slit open her stomach, yank out the
fetus, the baby dies, and that`s not murder. Outrage!
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
911 OPERATOR: Tell me what happened.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She cut me.
911 OPERATOR: Who cut you?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Downstairs. I don`t know.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This mother-to-be beaten, stabbed and bleeding. Her baby had been cut out of her.
911 OPERATOR: Did she cut you in your stomach?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I`m pregnant.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: Twenty-three-year-old Whitney Beals (ph) films herself driving, weaving through local neighborhoods, cars honking at had he in the
background, trying to get her to stop, to pull over. She`s actually live- streaming herself, insisting over and over she`s driving, quote, "F-ing drunk." Quote, "I`m super-drunk and driving in the USA."
Bombshell right now. No jail time!
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I am -- I am drunk beyond belief, people. I can`t (INAUDIBLE)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She`s slurring her speech and she`s going from one lane to another on the street.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I`m so -- I`m -- I`m pretty drunk right now, and I (INAUDIBLE)
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: A U.S. Olympic female gold medalist charged with a violent attack.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
911 OPERATOR: 911. What`s your problem? Tell me exactly what happened.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: My father just tried to attack me in my own house in front of my children.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Police responded to a domestic disturbance call calling from Street`s (ph) home.
911 OPERATOR: What do you mean, you put him downstairs?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I put him down the stairs. He got his hands on me, and I put him down the stairs.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: The desperate search for a Florida mom, her car just discovered outside Beall`s (ph) department store, where she works.
Good evening. I`m Nancy Grace. I want to thank you for being with us.
Bombshell tonight. A 34-year-old mother of two lures a 7-month pregnant 26-year-old mom-to-be to her home with a baby clothing ad, and then attacks
her, slashing the mom`s tummy, carving and yanking out the fetus, taking it out of Mommy`s stomach. The alleged perp, 34-year-old Dynel Lane -- was
she willing to do anything to get a new baby, even commit murder?
Breaking right now. No murder charges? Are you kidding me? I guess it`s true, in Colorado, you can actually hunt down a pregnant mom, slit open her
stomach, carve out and steal her fetus, the baby dies and that`s not murder. Absolute outrage!
Straight out to Randy Corporon, joining us out of Denver. OK, let me understand this. Take it from the beginning. Did these two ladies know
each other in any way before this?
RANDY CORPORON, RADIO HOST (via telephone): No, Nancy. The victim became acquainted with the defendant by responding to an ad on Craigslist for baby
clothes.
GRACE: I`m sick. I am sick! Chris Spargo, reporter, Dailymail.com -- so the pregnant mom -- there you go. Here`s the ad that Randy Corporon`s
talking about -- maternity clothes, small and medium tops, large pants, shorts with low and high tummy panels, e-mail or text. Just like new.
So Chris Spargo, Dailymail.com, they don`t know each other before this, according to Randy Corporon. And the perp, the alleged perp, puts this ad
on Craigslist to sell used baby clothes. And the victim just happens to respond? Is that how it went down?
CHRIS SPARGO, DAILYMAIL.COM (via telephone): That is. She was looking for some clothes, so she went to her house, the alleged perpetrator. And they
talked for an hour. She said they had a good talk. And then as she went to leave, this vicious attack occurred.
GRACE: OK, I want to understand something. Julie Hayden is just joining me right now out of Boulder, reporter with CNN affiliate KDVR. Julie, the
woman who is posting the ads, who is accused of carving open a 7-month- pregnant mom`s stomach, stealing her fetus, the baby dies -- Julie, yes, no. Was the alleged perpetrator even pregnant at the time this happened?
[20:05:15]JULIE HAYDEN, KDVR CORRESPONDENT (via telephone): No, she was not pregnant at all.
GRACE: Not pregnant. Had she been pretending to be pregnant?
HAYDEN: Yes. She`d been pretending to be pregnant, posting Facebook pictures, posting fake pictures of her pregnancy. They even had a baby
shower for her. But she was never pregnant.
GRACE: Whoa! Wa-wa-wa-wait! Did you just say, Julie Hayden, they even gave her -- wait. Are these the pregnant pictures, Liz? OK. Hold on.
Sit on that picture, Charles. Liz, am I looking at the perpetrator right now?
This is the perpetrator, not the victim. Guys, look at this. She fakes a pregnancy, as Julie Hayden from KDVR is telling us, posts all these
pictures -- do I have any more fake pregnancy pictures, Liz. Here she is faking a pregnancy on line. She -- this woman is not pregnant! She`s
faking her pregnancy. She even has a baby shower, lets family and friends throw a baby shower for her. There she is, rubbing what, a pillow under
her shirt?
Dynel Lane -- topics I started -- it`s all about babies, I think is what`s under the banner. She`s obsessed with baby dew (ph). I saw that. Oh,
yes, this is her registry. Thank you, Matt. Let me look at this. Here`s her Target registry. The perp has a fake bump, a fake baby shower and a
fake Target registry. This baby registry Dynel Lane set up on the TheBump.com.
OK, back to you, Spargo, Chris Spargo, Dailymail.com. So she`s not pregnant. She has a baby shower, baby registries. She`s faking pregnancy
on Facebook, and then she posts the ad, right?
SPARGO: That`s correct.
GRACE: OK, Randy Corporon, what did the ad say on Craigslist?
CORPORON: I don`t have a copy of the ad in front of me, Nancy, but it was...
GRACE: Oh, wait. Here it is -- small and medium tops, large pants, shorts with low and high tummy panels. OK. I`ve seen that. OK, what happens
next, Randy?
CORPORON: So the victim shows up at the house. They chat about pregnancies and various things for about an hour. And then around 1:00
o`clock on March 18th last year, she`s invited down into the basement to look at the supposed baby clothes. And that`s when she`s attacked with a
lava lamp.
GRACE: OK, I think, Matt Zarrell, that he just said she`s attacked by a lava lamp?
MATT ZARRELL, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER: Attacked by a lava lamp, yes, Nancy. And in addition, after the lava lamp was broken over her, prosecutors say
she used the shards from the lava lamp to stab the victim in the neck repeatedly.
GRACE: OK, she attacks her as she`s going down the basement steps to buy used baby clothes. OK, here`s a mom trying to save money. She answers a
Craigslist ad. She`s 7 months pregnant. I remember at 7 months -- well, I hardly made it to 7 months with the twins. I was already in a wheelchair.
I could hardly walk carrying the twins.
And here`s this mom, has no idea what`s about to happen to her, goes down the basement steps, and she`s attacked from behind and hit over the head
with a glass lava lamp. The shards go everywhere.
Matt Zarrell, what happened then?
ZARRELL: So Michelle is trying to stop the attack by telling Dynel Lane, I love you, why are you doing this to me? And Dynel Lane responds with, If
you love me, you`ll let me do this. And then Dynel Lane allegedly stabbed Michelle in the neck with the broken shards of the lava lamp.
GRACE: So Matt Zarrell, after the attack with the lava lamp, she takes the shards of it and stabs the pregnant mom.
Right now, we`ve just obtained crime scene photos. Let`s see where this happened, please, Liz. There you go. These are the steps, we think, going
down to the basement where the attack first started. And hold on on the next photo, please. Hold. If you look through this door, you see a very
significant crime scene photo. And I want to warn you, it`s extremely graphic.
OK, Matt Zarrell, explain to me what this graphic crime scene photo is.
ZARRELL: OK, what you`re seeing is the bed covered in blood where prosecutors say Dynel Lane attacked Michelle Wilkins and then slit open her
stomach and took out the baby. Part of the significance is you notice, Nancy, is that the sheets on the bed are missing. The reason is because
the prosecution says that while Michelle was bleeding to death, Dynel Lane actually moved the body on the bed so she could take the sheets off the bed
and wash them. And the sheets were found in the middle of a wash cycle when police arrived on scene.
GRACE: And another thing about this crime scene photo that is very important is, Chris Spargo, Dailymail.com, when the boyfriend gets home --
obviously, this is a horrible crime scene, where she slits the woman`s stomach open, yanks the fetus out and leaves the woman for dead. She`s got
to explain all this blood to her boyfriend. What does she say?
[20:10:24]SPARGO: She claims that she`s had a miscarriage with the child.
GRACE: So Randy Corporon, when the boyfriend gets home, she actually claims all of this is because she had a miscarriage?
CORPORON: That`s exactly right, Nancy. And he scoops her up into his truck to drive off to the hospital.
GRACE: Now, let me understand another very significant point. Randy Corporon, host joining us out of Denver, isn`t it true that the
defendant`s, Dynel Lane, own husband said the fetus took a breath when he first saw it?
CORPORON: According to the police reports, that is exactly what he said. He heard the baby gasping for air.
GRACE: Unleash the lawyers, Troy Slaten, LA, Misty Marris, New York. First to you, Troy Slaten. Colorado is one of the few states where
intentionally killing a fetus -- I`m not talking about a woman`s right to choose. I`m talking about a third party intentionally killing the baby in
utero. Colorado is one of the few states that`s not a homicide. They believe that the baby`s not a human yet.
So Troy Slaten, the fact that the defendant`s own husband says, the baby breathed, I heard the baby take a gasp, means the baby was alive. This
should be a murder charge!
TROY SLATEN, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: In order for there to be a murder charge, Nancy, the prosecutors have to show that the baby was viable. And their
own medical examiner, the coroner, said that the baby wasn`t. And the baby died...
GRACE: Wa-wa-wa-wait! Wait!
SLATEN: ... and was not viable outside the womb.
GRACE: Dr. DuPre...
SLATEN: Therefore, not murder.
GRACE: I don`t even know what you`re talking about because the baby breathed, according to the first statement of the husband.
Dr. Michelle DuPre, forensic pathologist -- Dr. DuPre, being viable under the law as opposed to in medical science are virtually, amazingly, the same
thing. Can the baby survive outside the womb? At 7 months, a baby can survive. I know that for a fact because my twins did. And the husband
first, the perpetrator`s own husband, says at the beginning, he heard the baby take a breath.
Does that mean the baby`s viable?
DR. MICHELLE DUPRE, FORENSIC PATHOLOGIST: Nancy, yes, a baby can certainly survive at 7 months, provided there`s no other complications. The medical
examiner would normally take microscopic sections of the lung, and we can tell if there was ever air in the lung (ph) filled (ph) sacks or not, to
determine if that baby ever did take a breath. I would imagine that the autopsy should show that.
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[20:17:11]UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The 26-year-old woman lies beaten, stabbed and bleeding.
911 OPERATOR: What did she cut you with?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: A knife. I`m pregnant. (INAUDIBLE)
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: Tonight, we are examining the motive behind this alleged attempted murder and the outrage that you can hunt down a pregnant woman in Colorado,
lure her to your home with an advertisement on Craigslist for used baby clothes, attack her, slice open her stomach, leave her for dead, bleeding,
and then the baby dies, and that`s not a murder charge. Here`s a baby registry Dynel Lane set up on TheBump.com. There are other registries, as
well.
But first, what can we learn from the 911 call itself? Listen.
(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)
911 OPERATOR: (INAUDIBLE) 911. Address of your emergency?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (DELETED)
911 OPERATOR: OK, what -- tell me what happened.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She cut me.
911 OPERATOR: Who cut you?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Downstairs. I don`t know.
911 OPERATOR: OK. Hold on.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I responded to...
911 OPERATOR: Hang on.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: ... Craigslist.
911 OPERATOR: Hold on.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Please. I`m downstairs.
911 OPERATOR: OK, who cut you?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It was a girl. I responded to a Craigslist ad.
911 OPERATOR: What did she cut you with?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: A knife. I`m pregnant (INAUDIBLE)
911 OPERATOR: She cut you in your stomach?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I`m pregnant.
911 OPERATOR: OK.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (INAUDIBLE)
911 OPERATOR: What is the suspect`s name?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I don`t remember. Please help me. I`m bleeding out.
911 OPERATOR: I know. You need to stay on the phone with me, OK? I`m getting everybody to you, OK?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (INAUDIBLE) bleeding out.
911 OPERATOR: I know. You stay with me, OK? I got everybody coming to help you. You stay on the phone. Don`t hang up. Can you grab a towel or
anything you can get in your hands and put it on your wound and press? How far along are you?
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: You know, Chris Spargo, Dailymail.com, the 911 call goes on, and we learn that the victim says, with her hand, she can feel her intestines.
Her intestines are now all falling out of her stomach from the slice, isn`t that true?
SPARGO: That is correct. She was somehow able to come to, and with her complete innards just out and bleeding everywhere, able to call 911.
GRACE: Oh! Everyone, you just heard that 911 call. The baby died. The little baby that this woman, Dynel Catrice (ph) Lane, cuts out of the
victim`s stomach dies. She ends up somehow in the bathtub, dead, the baby. The baby boy does.
[20:20:00]And this is my question. Isn`t it true, Randy Corporon joining me out of Denver, that the perpetrator`s husband later changed his story
and said, Oh, oh, no, the baby did not take a breath, it was dead?
CORPORON: Yes, he tried to make it sound like he misunderstood the question or he wasn`t heard properly.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Michelle Wilkins went to this house seven months pregnant. Police say she responded to an ad on Craigslist for baby
clothes. But this mother-to-be seen smiling in family pictures made a chilling cry for help.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She cut me.
911 OPERATOR: Who cut you?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Downstairs. I don`t know.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Her baby had been cut out of her.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: You know, Matt Zarrell, people are looking for motive, although the state doesn`t need to show motive. What is a possible motive? She already
had two children. Why would she do this, willing to commit murder to get a new baby?
[20:25:03]ZARRELL: Well, there`s two parts to this, Nancy. One is that the state says that Dynel Lane was obsessed with pregnancy. She spent a
year covering it up, making people believe she was pregnant.
The other factor is the husband because we know from text messages that the husband told a friend, If I don`t get some answers, she will move out. He
was questioning whether she was actually pregnant. And he made Dynel Lane make a prenatal appointment so that he could go with her to prove that she
was pregnant the. The day of the supposed prenatal appointment was the day of the attack.
GRACE: And what was the scene when cops arrived there, Matt?
ZARRELL: Cops arrived, they found Michelle lying on a bed, covered in blood from head to toe, as well as blood around her on the bed, as you`ve
seen in the photos. Cops found on the floor just under the bed a small knife with a three-inch blade.
Michelle Wilkins was in and out of consciousness. She could barely speak. When the cops asked who stabbed her, she said, I only know her as D. Blood
was noted tracked from the basement to upstairs bathroom. They also found in the wash cycle several bloody towels and the bloody sheets. It was in
the middle of a wash cycle.
GRACE: You know, Larry Fishelson, technology expert, co-founder of Dyna Link Communications -- Larry, especially about this baby registry and these
texts back and forth with her husband -- how can we prove when the registry was created? Because that clearly -- If I can show she was never pregnant
-- this is her registry from TheBump. If I can show to a jury she was never pregnant, this clearly goes to premeditation, Larry.
How can I show when the registry was put up and when the texts were going back and forth between her and her husband?
LARRY FISHELSON, TECHNOLOGY EXPERT (via telephone): So Nancy, this is very simple. Everything is timestamped, so the time and date of the registry,
when it was created, is all timestamped. It`s all there to be had. All the texts going back and forth are timestamped, so you`ll be able to see
the whole chronological order, the whole timeframe of what happened and basically what didn`t happen there.
GRACE: Take a listen to what this poor woman, whose baby is now dead, had to say.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
MICHELLE WILKINS, VICTIM: When she attacked me, she hit my back. It was very aggressive and hard. I asked her, I said, was there a spider on me.
And she said, yes, I think I got it.
And then she continued. I turned around, pulled my hands up and I said, What are you doing? And said, I just want to leave, I don`t want to hurt
you. I started walking towards the door, and she grabbed me very roughly, pushing me deeper into the house towards the bathroom.
We jostled a little bit in the hallway as I tried to push my way back towards the door. She`s pushing me deeper into the house. Finally, we get
all the way in front of the bathroom and she just lurches me sideways into the back bedroom.
There are so many what ifs that go through your head. We struggle. She keeps telling me that she`s going to call the police on me. I pull out my
phone, and I said, Well, I`ll call the police, and that`s when the real struggle begins.
And she throws me to the bed, trying to suffocate me with a pillow, with her hands. Just had this nightmarish quality. She broke something over my
head, and I just felt the liquid wash over me. I just kept saying Why? Why are you doing this? Why?
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: This case heads to trial. And that is from Dr. Phil, Potesky (ph) Production and CBS TV distribution.
[20:30:00] (COMMERCIAL BREAK)
GRACE: Twenty-three-year-old Whitney Beall films herself driving, weaving through local neighborhoods, cars honking in the background begging her to
pull over, trying to get her to stop. She is live streaming herself on periscope, insisting over and over she`s driving "f-ing drunk." "I`m super
drunk and driving in the USA." The latest? No jail time.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I just saw a girl on periscope driving drunk.
WHITNEY BEALL, DRUNK DRIVER: Driving home drunk. I am. I am drink beyond belief people. Super upset, I`m sorry.
GRACE: Okay. Before we go and find out the very latest, which is bombshell, no jail time. I want you to see what thousands of people saw the night this
woman drives drunk and she`s proud of it. She`s driving with one pinkie and streaming live on periscope that she`s driving "f-ing drunk." Listen.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
BEALL: Hi guys. If you don`t knew, I`m driving home drunk. Let`s see -- let`s see if I can get a DUI. In the USA, people. Let`s see if I can get a
DUI. I don`t think I will.
I really don`t because I live on backroads. Oh, my God, I am so sorry. I am so sorry. That was an accident. I am drink beyond belief people. I can`t
read your snaps. I can`t read your Periscopes. I feel like I`m going to be drunk all the way home. All the way home, people. I`m going to be drunk. I
wish I could read -- I wish I could read your -- your Periscopes.
OK, I`m on a red light right now. If anybody has anything to say at the red light, let`s go right now. While I put my seat belt on because this
horrible.
[20:35:00] (END VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: Roger Schulman, news director, WGUL, the answer. Roger, what is -- what is this woman thinking?
ROGER SCHULMAN, WGUL A.M. 860 NEWS DIRECTOR: Obviously, she wasn`t thinking. She was roaring drunk, driving down the street, broadcasting to
the entire world.
GRACE: OK guys, take a look at this woman, Whitney Marie Beall. I`m going to cue up the 911 call for you. Here`s Beall, driving drunk and she says
"f-ing drunk," "super drunk in the USA." And she`s streaming live on something called Periscope. To Sergeant Gary Gross, Public Information
Officer, Lakeland Police Department. Sergeant, how did you first find out she`s driving drunk -- she`s stinkin` drunk?
SERGEANT GARY GROSS, LAKELAND POLICE DEPARTMENT PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER: Nancy, it was -- we started getting calls from people all over the place
that knew she was in Lakeland, that didn`t know Lakeland, they didn`t know the city limits, and you know, it`s very frustrating for the officers
trying to find her.
But luckily, one of the younger officers had the Periscope app, turned it on, and he could see some landmarks in the background, and that`s how we
were able to close in and see her driving on a flat tire, because she just smashed into the curb, drunk. And that`s how we were able to get her to
pull over and luckily, you know, nobody was injured including herself.
GRACE: OK. Amazingly, they tuned in to Periscope and they can identify landmarks in the background. That`s good police work. I want you to hear
this 911 call, listen.
(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Can I help you?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hi there. I just saw a girl on Periscope driving drunk. She doesn`t know where she is, and she`s driving really fast. You can see
it on ...
(CROSSTALK)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What is Periscope?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: ... Periscope. I can send you the link.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What -- what?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Have you ...
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I`ve never heard of it.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. Periscope is something that people broadcast live as -- whatever it is that they`re doing, you see it real time. And it goes --
it broadcasts this worldwide.
And this young lady is somewhere in Lakeland, Florida. That`s all I can -- that`s all we`re allowed to see. She`s driving -- I think it`s a gray or
black Toyota.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: How do you know she`s drunk?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She`s slurring her speech and she`s going from one lane to another.
(END AUDIO CLIP)
GRACE: All right. Now, here`s State`s exhibit number one. I`m going to play more of her Periscope. Dr. Ramani Durvasula, Clinical Psychologist out of
L.A., why -- why would you live stream yourself driving drunk, bragging about it?
RAMANI DURVASULA, CLINICAL PSYCHOLOGIST: I think it`s sort of the new way in the new world of social media with young people. I think at this point,
they sort of broadcast every minute of their lives and I think this is just one more minute of it and a heck of a humiliating -- humiliating wakeup
call for this young woman. It`s just what young people do. It`s sad, but it is.
GRACE: Well, you know, as pretty much everybody`s Periscoping now, Ramani Durvasula, get with it, Ramani.
Adi Jaffe is with me, addiction specialist. Let me ask you this, what`s the thinking behind this, that unless you put it on social media, it`s not
real?
ADI JAFFE, ADDICTION SPECIALIST: Well as your other guest was saying, I don`t know that there`s a lot of thinking, especially when you`re that
intoxicated, as it`s pretty clearly she is. But this is a cry for help, right? This is a girl who thinks that there`s nowhere for her to ...
(CROSSTALK)
GRACE: Did you actually just say "a cry for help"? That is very tired.
JAFFE: She thinks she cannot get any attention unless she literally broadcast herself. Out of her mind, she`s saying ...
GRACE: "A cry for help."
JAFFE: ... "will I get a DUI?", right?
GRACE: Yeah, OK, but you know, "a cry for help." No offense, that`s lame. "A cry for help." She`s about to ...
(CROSSTALK)
GRACE: ... mow people down. They`re the ones that are going to be crying for help, Jaffe, not her.
JAFFE: All right, I`m not ...
(CROSSTALK)
GRACE: She`s having a good old time. OK, listen to this. Adi Jaffe with me. Listen to this Periscope.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
BEALL: I really -- I really don`t want a ticket, so I`m going to drive to the area I need to be, and then I`m going to go straight on, like -- you
don`t have to be sober on -- but it actually looks - but it looks like I can be.
So people, hi. I am drunk on South Florida Avenue because I`m a drunk person and I am super, super upset. I`m sorry.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
[20:40:00] GRACE: You know, I`m super upset, too, Justin Freiman, about her driving drunk. Justin, so you`re telling me, it is not unreasonable that
she did not get jail time? Explain?
JUSTIN FREIMAN, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER: That`s right, Nancy. This is a first- time offense, or it`s the first time she`s been caught, so this is not unreasonable that she did not get jail time.
GRACE: Whoa, wait, wait, wait. You`re saying -- you said first-time offense. Let me clarify. What you said later, I think, is more accurate.
First time she was caught. You are telling me, Justin, that she is going to have to pick up trash on the side of the street at least?
FREIMAN: Oh, yes. She will. She`ll actually have to report to the county there. She`ll actually wear a fluorescent vest, and on this vest it will
actually say that she`s a sheriff`s prisoner and she`ll be picking up trash or mowing lawns, mowing the grass there. She`ll also be cleaning parks,
that type of manual labor.
GRACE: OK, so that`s not as bad as I thought, and maybe she`ll Periscope it.
[20:45:00] (COMMERCIAL BREAK)
GRACE: A U.S. Olympic female gold medalist charged with a violent attack.
(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)
PICABO STREET, CHARGED WITH DOMESTIC VIOLENCE: He got his hands on me, and I put him down the stairs.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: So you say -- did he fall down the stairs? Does he need medical maybe?
P. STREET: No.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Street`s attorney says she wasn`t the aggressor and it was self-defense.
P. STREET: You got to be kidding me, mom! Look what he did to my hair!
DEE STREET, PICABO`S MOTHER: I`m not kidding you at all!
P. STREET: Look what he did to my hair!
D. STREET: I saw what you did to him.
P. STREET: He assaulted me right here!
(END AUDIO CLIP)
GRACE: Joining me right now, senior news editor dailymail.com, Candace Trunzo. Liz, can you re-rack that entire 911 call?
A female Olympic gold medalist is charged with a violent attack. And what I want you to hear is her mother in the background. Now, you will hear her
claim that it`s self-defense against her elderly father, he`s nearly 80 years old. But wait until you hear what Picabo`s mother says in the
background, listen.
(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIRD FEMALE: 911, what`s the problem? Tell me exactly what happened?
P. STREET: My father just tried to attack me in my own house in front of my children.
D. STREET: Who attacked who?
P. STREET: Because he`s -- because he`s trying to get his car out of my driveway and he ran into my house and I told him you needed to go
downstairs and get out of my face.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He ran into your house?
P. STREET: Yes, he ran into my house with his truck.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: So, he actually hit your house with his vehicle?
P. STREET: It was an accident, but yes.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Oh OK. OK, and do you need any medical attention?
P. STREET: I don`t. No.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What is your last name?
P. STREET: Street.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: First name?
P. STREET: Picabo.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK. Any weapons involved?
P. STREET: No.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: All right, has it calmed down now?
P. STREET: I put him downstairs, I don`t know what he`s doing.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What do you mean you put him downstairs?
P. STREET: I put him down the stairs.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Did you ...
P. STREET: He got his hands on me and I put him down the stairs.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: So, you -- so, did he fall down the stairs? Does he need medical, maybe?
P. STREET: Nope.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK. All right, we`re going to get some help on the way. I want you to stay on the line with me, OK? Just a minute.
P. STREET: There`s no way to get to my house, we`re snowed in.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK. Hang on just a minute.
P. STREET: OK.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (Inaudible)
P. STREET: You can`t get out, mom. You can`t get out without my vehicle. Mom, don`t you understand, there`s two feet of snow.
D. STREET: I`m getting ...
(CROSSTALK)
D. STREET: I don`t care what you say. You`re insane.
P. STREET: You have to be kidding me, mom! Look what he did to my hair!
D. STREET: I`m not kidding you at all!
P. STREET: Look what he did to my hair!
D. STREET: I saw what you did to him.
P. STREET: He assaulted me right here!
D. STREET: You attacked ...
P. STREET: He attacked - oh my God, are you kidding me? He scratched me on my face!
D. STREET: You threw something at him.
P. STREET: I did not throw anything to him.
D. STREET: (Inaudible)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hang on.
(END AUDIO CLIP)
GRACE: She is so busted, Candace Trunzo. I don`t care if she`s an Olympic gold medalist. You can hear the mother say, "he didn`t attack you, you
started it." It`s all on the 911 tape, Candace.
CANDACE TRUNZO, DAILYMAIL.COM SENIOR NEWS EDITOR: It is. It`s just an incredible 911 tape. One of the most amazing I`ve ever heard because while
she`s calling 911 to say that there is an emergency, that she put her father down the stairs, put, i.e., pushed.
And her mother is saying, you know, you started it. You hit him. It`s your fault. And she`s saying, oh my God, I did not. I`m doing -- I did it in
self-defense, he was pulling at my hair. And she -- no, he did fall down two flights of stairs and then she ...
(CROSSTALK)
GRACE: He`s nearly 80 years old, Candace. Eighty years old. He didn`t fall down the stairs, Candace Trunzo, dailymail.com. She pushed him. She threw
her nearly 80-year-old father down two flights of stairs.
And unleash the lawyers, Troy Slaten, L.A.; Misty Marris, New York. Misty Marris, did you hear what happened? She`s angry because he accidentally,
with all the snow, he was trying to move the car and it came into -- it hit the house. It hit the house. And her big attack -- she goes, "did you see
what he did to my hair?" He messed up her hair, and she pushed him down the stairs. That`s what happened.
MISTY MARRIS, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Nancy ...
GRACE: What?
MARRIS: ... she says this was in self-defense, that her father was ...
GRACE: Attorney Marris?
MARRIS: ... the initial aggressor. Not just her hair. She also said that there`s a -- that he scratched her face. She was acting in self-defense.
And that`s what`s going to come out when this case goes to trial.
GRACE: Did you hear that 911 call I just played?
MARRIS: Yes, but guess who called 911? Interesting that it was Picabo Street that who 911.
GRACE: Yeah. Yeah, because she knew she was in trouble and she was already trying to cover her tracks by saying, "I put him down the stairs. I put him
down the stairs." Candace Trunzo, isn`t that what she said?
TRUNZO: She said, "I put down the stairs." That`s exactly what she said. And she admitted that she did. She admitted that she put him down the
stairs. One could say push, one could say put. But, yeah -- and she`s saying that she did it because he was pulling at her hair. He was attacking
her. He has been combative. He is suffering from diabetes. He was ...
[20:50:00] (CROSSTALK)
GRACE: Are you suggesting that because you have diabetes ...
TRUNZO: No.
GRACE: ... that you get aggressive?
TRUNZO: No, No. I`m suggesting that he was in diabetic hypoglycemia and he was very difficult to manage. She was having a hard time ...
(CROSSTALK)
GRACE: He`s nearly 80 ...
TRUNZO: ... her father to the hospital.
GRACE: ... years old with diabetes.
TRUNZO: Yeah, but he`s ...
(CROSSTALK)
GRACE: OK?
(CROSSTALK)
GRACE: She`s an Olympian, Candace. I can`t believe you`re taking the 80- year-old -- you`re siding against the 80-year-old man with diabetes and you`re claiming the Olympian was at -- did you hear me? Olympian? OK, OK.
Justin Freiman, the Olympian was just in court. What is her defense?
FREIMAN: Nancy, she`s claiming self-defense. She says that you know, the father came, went outside, hit the house with the car. When she went out
there to help them, to get them out of the house properly with her SUV because there was a big snowstorm that had happened, that he was aggressive
towards her and that she was defending herself.
[20:55:00] (COMMERCIAL BREAK)
GRACE: The desperate search for a Florida mom. Her car just discovered outside Beall`s Department Store where she works.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Have you seen Kerry Jones? This mother has been missing from her home in Jacksonville, Florida since the beginning of February.
According to her boyfriend, Jones left after the couple had an argument about a Facebook post.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: Dave Priest, joining me, morning show co-host WRNN. Dave, thank you for being with us. Explain to me the argument these two had over what
Facebook post?
DAVE PRIEST, WRNN MORNING SHOW CO-HOST: Well, from what I understand from the police report, as soon as Kerry Jones got back from work that day, she
had some sort of beef with her boyfriend at that time over what her boyfriend had posted on Facebook. They got into an argument and according
to the boyfriend, that night was the last time he had seen her.
GRACE: OK. Let me understand also, Dave Priest joining me from WRNN. Her vehicle is found outside Beall`s Department Store where she works?
PRIEST: Yeah. That`s one of the most confusing parts of this entire story, Nancy, is that she left work on Sunday and then two days later she was
supposed to be at work, and it was one of her co-workers that called the boyfriend and said, hey, where is Kerry? She has not shown up for work.
And at that point in time, he decided to go ahead and contact family and police and report her missing. But her car mysteriously got back to
Beall`s, as you said. But nobody knows how. They saw her leaving on surveillance cameras on Sunday but they didn`t see her come back at all.
GRACE: So, let me understand, Dave Priest. She leaves work. She leaves in her car.
PRIEST: Right.
GRACE; She goes missing. And then before she`s reported missing her car mysteriously turns back up in Beall`s parking lot?
PRIEST: That -- again, that`s one of the most confusing parts of this. They did go back to all of the surveillance video. They saw her leaving on
Sunday at about 2:30 in the afternoon and then they found her car back there when they were looking for her but no sign of Kerry Jones,
whatsoever.
GRACE: It`s not confusing to me, Dave Priest. Someone planted her car back there to get it away from where the crime took place, either a kidnapping
or a murder. Now, who would have access to her car? That`s the question. Or who stole her car?
So, there`s surveillance, Dave Priest, at Beall`s for the entire -- all through the shopping center. They don`t have any surveillance that could
show me who got out of that car once it was parked?
PRIEST: No. They don`t even have see when the car came back. I mean, they have surveillance video but apparently where the car was parked, they
didn`t have anything right there at that time, so ...
(CROSSTALK)
Grace: Where was the car parked, Dave?
Priest: ... somebody may have known that there was not surveillance there.
Grace: Where was the car parked?
PRIEST: Well, it was in the parking lot there at Beall`s but it was in a different place than where it was before.
GRACE: Okay. Michael Christian, what can you tell me about the post that caused the argument?
MICHAEL CHRISTIAN, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER: You know, that`s a mystery, Nancy. We have looked on Facebook. We can`t find anything that looks like it would
have caused an argument. So, if there was indeed something there, it apparently has been taken down.
GRACE: Look at this woman. It`s Kerry Jones, brown eyes, brown hair, just 5 feet tall. She only weighs 120 pounds, from Pell City, Alabama, and she
just met this guy online. They had known each other for about six months. He is the last one that saw her alive. No person of interest or suspect.
Let`s remember, American hero, Maryland Senior Deputy Patrick Dailey, killed in the line of duty. A marine Vet, volunteer firefighter with
Hartford County Sheriff`s Office, 30 years. Parents, Michael and Joan. Brother, Michael. Sisters, Linda and Kathleen. Sons, Tyler and Brian.
Patrick Dailey, American hero.
A special good night from super crime fighter 6th graders with Stratford Academy. Aren`t they awesome?
Up next, parents of an autistic teen behind bars for setting a fire that killed his brother.
Thanks to our guests, but especially to you for being with us. Nancy Grace, signing off. I`ll see you tomorrow night, 8 o`clock sharp, Eastern. And
until then, good night, friend.
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