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Aired March 14, 2016 - 20:00 ET
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NANCY GRACE, HOST: Breaking news tonight. Young mother Ashley Fallis`s death the early morning hours of New Year`s Eve immediately ruled a
suicide. Bombshell tonight. Even with her cop husband covered in his wife`s blood at the scene, official cause of death remains suicide -- until
now.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Ashley died in her Evans (ph) home from a gunshot wound.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: That wound on the back of her head isn`t where she could do it herself, Tom. It is not.
TOM FALLIS, HUSBAND: Bull (EXPLETIVE DELETED) bull (EXPLETIVE DELETED) bull (EXPLETIVE DELETED) bull (EXPLETIVE DELETED) bull (EXPLETIVE DELETED).
I didn`t shoot my wife!
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Her family never believed she would take her own life.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: And breaking news right now. We go live, a body just found at a Phoenix recycling plant just ID`d as missing 24-year-old mother, Kristi
Leeann Davies (ph).
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The body of a woman was found on a transfer belt inside the facility.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Kristi Davies`s body found on a conveyer belt at the city (ph) Phoenix recycling plant. Police believe she was killed somewhere
else, dumped, then eventually brought to the plant.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: Then a glamorous model and FBI agent dad bludgeon her husband dead with a baseball bat, leaving his two children orphaned, heinous, atrocious,
cruel, cops describing the bludgeoning death of an Irish husband, the husband of the model, and her FBI dad, who deny murdering her husband with
a baseball bat and a landscaping stone, the two insisting, We`re not guilty.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: ... covered in blood.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Multiple blows to the head with both an aluminum bat and a landscaping stone.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He`s bleeding all over, and I -- I may have killed him.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A former FBI agent and his daughter face murder charges in the death of the woman`s husband.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: A heartbroken family begging for help to find their little girl taken from her own bedroom.
Good evening. I`m Nancy Grace. I want to thank you for being with us.
Bombshell tonight. A young mother, Ashley Fallis`s, death the early morning hours New Year`s Eve immediately ruled a suicide even though her
cop husband is covered with his wife`s blood at the scene. The official cause of death remains suicide -- until now.
And breaking right now on the story, we learn their two little girls, the two daughters of this union, ages just 6 and 9 at the time, are being
dragged into the murder mystery.
You`re taking a look at the crime scene. I want you to look at this picture before we move off of it. There you see on the floor to the left
of the marital bed, the law enforcement maglight, that big flashlight. It`s just beside a spattering of blood on the floor. On the desk, on the
dresser to your left, divorce papers are sitting there.
Now, this is the room in which the young mom, Ashley Fallis, is found dead. The defense is she committed suicide. Remember, the amount of blood found
on the husband`s body, on his clothing, is much, much more than found on the floor where she allegedly kills herself.
And tonight, how are the children, the two little girls getting dragged into the scenario? I want to show you what happened in the interrogation.
But first, I want you to hear what we`ve obtained, a portion of the 911 call. Let`s listen.
(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)
911 OPERATOR: 911, what is the address of your emergency?
FALLIS: (INAUDIBLE) my wife is (INAUDIBLE)
911 OPERATOR: OK, sir. Listen to me. I`ve got somebody else getting help on the way, OK? Where is she at?
FALLIS: (INAUDIBLE) Listen to me! Hey!
911 OPERATOR: How old is she, sir?
FALLIS: No!
911 OPERATOR: Sir?
FALLIS: You`re staying here! Come here! You`re staying here! You are not leaving me! You are not leaving me! (INAUDIBLE) (EXPLETIVE DELETED).
Look at me!
911 OPERATOR: Sir?
FALLIS: Look at me! Can you hear me? You can hear me, I know you can hear me!
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: That is from CBS`s "48 Hours." And there`s a transcript and you`re hearing the 911 call from the night that Ashley is found dead.
[20:056:00]Now, get the scenario. Let me go to John Rush, host of "Rush to Reason," KLZ, joining us. John, this all happened on New Year`s Eve.
There was a New Year`s Eve party.
Liz, do we have the shots of the party that happened in the home? I`ll come back to the crime scene shots, Liz.
But there had just been a large group of people in the home. They were all partying. It was not a party out of control, though. There wasn`t any
gunplay. There weren`t any threats or there wasn`t any craziness going on. The children were at home, the two little girls, Ashley`s two little girls,
ages 6 and 9.
So what, if anything, John Rush, did any of the New Year`s Eve partiers see or hear?
JOHN RUSH, HOST "RUSH TO REASON" KLZ (via telephone): I don`t think any of the New Year`s Eve partiers saw anything because all of this happened after
they got into some argument, and upon wanting (ph) to do that, of course, he gets all excited and upset, and they...
(CROSSTALK)
GRACE: I`m glad you brought that up, John Rush. John Rush...
RUSH: At the end, everybody starts to leave. The parents go down the street.
GRACE: John!
RUSH: They start to converse with each other as to what just happened...
GRACE: John! John! Can you just cut him just for a moment, because it`s very important that we address the fact that while the husband threw it out
there, I guess, what, to make his wife look bad, she had not been smoking a joint, OK? And I don`t want that to be repeated and repeated and repeated
until people believe it`s true because that`s not true because it did not turn up in her system. That is absolutely unsupported by the facts.
Meredyth Censullo, investigative reporter also joining me along with John Rush. So all the revelers, the party goers left. Why did they leave,
Meredyth?
MEREDYTH CENSULLO, INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER: Well, this fight that you just heard about, about Ashley -- basically, they got into a fight. Ashley
wanted to go smoke a cigarette outside. The husband, Tom, got mad, stormed out after yelling at her in front of this crowd of people, stormed out,
went into the bedroom, slammed the door.
So the people at the party are like, OK, what just happened? So they are uncomfortable. They all leave the party. Ashley goes in to confront Tom,
so they are alone in the bedroom together, and that`s where the story can go one of two directions.
GRACE: OK, hold on just one moment, Meredyth. I`m going to come right back to you. But I`ve got an interrogation tape cued up, and I want
everybody to see his demeanor that night. Remember, this was ruled a suicide. Listen to the secretly recorded interrogation tape.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She would have to go like this. She`s telling you to get off of her.
FALLIS: I wasn`t on her!
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Why do you think someone say that? They could hear her...
FALLIS: I wasn`t on her!
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: ... vehemently saying, Get off of me, get off of me.
FALLIS: I wasn`t on her!
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Somebody`s just making that up, Tom?
FALLIS: Yes. My wife never told me to get off of her.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And so when you went upstairs, you were arguing with her. That wound on the back of her head isn`t where she could do it
herself, Tom. It is not.
FALLIS: Bull (EXPLETIVE DELETED) bull (EXPLETIVE DELETED).
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It is not.
FALLIS: Bull (EXPLETIVE DELETED)! Bull (EXPLETIVE DELETED)! Bull (EXPLETIVE DELETED)! I didn`t shoot my wife!
I had just shaved my chest. I just shaved it because I`ve never done it before. I`m sitting there, going like this with my shirt because it
itches. It scratches.
You`re accusing me of killing my wife, I`m not supposed to get upset?
(CROSSTALK)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: ... upset before this.
(CROSSTALK)
FALLIS: I have been here the whole time...
(CROSSTALK)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: ... blow off the handle is what they`re saying.
FALLIS: Nobody -- I did not shoot Ashley. I didn`t shoot my wife. I didn`t shoot the mother of my kids!
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: That is secretly recorded interrogation tape that is from CBS`s "48 Hours" that we obtained.
I don`t like his attitude. Unleash the lawyers, Misty Marris, Troy Slaten. First to you Slaten. You know what? I don`t think speaking to a cop -- of
course, it is a lady cop, maybe he felt that he could get away with speaking to her in that manner.
But I don`t like his attitude. His wife is dead. Did you hear him screaming and carrying on on the 911 call, Don`t leave me? You`re not
leaving. Yes, she left from a gunshot wound to the head. Her two little children are orphaned now.
And as a matter of fact, they`ve been dragged into this mess because they`re now cooperating with police, and they have quite the story to tell
that we are learning tonight.
But what`s with his attitude, Slaten?
TROY SLATEN, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: He sounds like an absolutely innocent man who is incredulous that he`s accused of murdering his wife, the mother of
his children. So if someone accused me of something I didn`t do, that`s the exact reaction that you`d expect someone to have.
GRACE: You know, that`s interesting that you, I guess, along with him, would be defensive about your own position when your wife, the mother of
the two children, is now headed to the medical examiner`s office.
Misty Marris, I thought he was extremely argumentative.
MISTY MARRIS, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Absolutely not! Nancy...
GRACE: No.
MARRIS: ... he`s distraught! The woman that he loved...
GRACE: Distraught.
[20:10:02]MARRIS: ... killed herself, and he`s being falsely accused of murder! How would you not be upset? How would you not be horrified that
you`re being accused of this terrible crime?
SLATEN: Exactly.
GRACE: I think -- and I`m not sure, but I think that I would be more concerned about my wife being dead at that moment and about the children
and about where her body was going. I don`t know. He didn`t strike me as being really torn up about her death.
But -- but -- let me go to Joe Scott Morgan. We`ll get off the behavioral evidence because I hear what you two are saying.
Joseph Scott Morgan, ballistics expect, professor of forensics at Jacksonville State University -- Joe Scott, thank you for being with us.
What do you see in this crime scene?
JOSEPH SCOTT MORGAN, BALLISTICS EXPERT (via telephone): Well, the thing that stands out to me the most, Nancy, is going to be the blood spatter
that`s on the wall adjacent to this lamp. That blood splatter is not consistent with what I would say would be generated from...
GRACE: Whoa! Whoa! Wait! Wa-wait! I don`t know if you can circle back to that, Liz, but we just showed you the blood spatter that Joe Scott
Morgan is describing.
Now, what is your take on that, Morgan?
MORGAN: Well, the way it looks to me -- this is essentially medium- velocity blood spatter, that large kind of arcing stripe that you see going down the wall. When you have a gunshot wound that generates that kind of -
- that kind of blood disbursement, it`s going to be real fine, almost like you`re spraying out of an aerosol can onto a mirror.
This looks like something that was almost dripped or wiped onto the wall. You have -- you have large contact areas on the floor, as well. This does
not look to me as if this was generated by the gunshot wound itself.
GRACE: And tonight, we are learning the two little girls are being dragged into this mess. As we go to air tonight, we are learning that they are
cooperating with police tonight, and in fact, one of them may have seen the shooting of her mother.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
[20:16:23]UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The family has their suspicions about who may be responsible for Ashley`s death.
FALLIS: (INAUDIBLE) (INAUDIBLE)
I just shaved my chest. I just shaved it because I`ve never done it before. I`m sitting there, going like this with my shirt because it
itches, it scratches.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: Why is he talking about shaving his chest when his wife has just died from a gunshot wound to the head? That was from CBS`s "48 Hours."
It`s secretly recorded interrogation tape of the cop husband the night his wife is found dead in their bedroom.
A big bombshell tonight, Matt Zarrell, is now two -- the three children are cooperating with police. There was a then 9-year-old girl, a 6-year-old
girl from her first marriage and then there`s a baby boy from this marriage with the cop husband. And I understand that one of the little girls claims
to have seen the shooting scene, her mother murdered?
MATT ZARRELL, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER (via telephone): Yes, Nancy, we do have documents where it shows that the 6-year-old child at the time...
GRACE: Oh!
ZARRELL: ... allegedly told police she saw Daddy getting the gun ready and said she saw Daddy shoot Mommy.
GRACE: Didn`t she say with a pink gun?
ZARRELL: Yes, she said a pink gun, and also said that she heard three gunshots. And the cops have discounted that because the child said she saw
three gunshots and Ashley was only shot once. But authorities believe that she just may have been mistaken about that specific instance and was
correct on everything else she witnessed.
GRACE: Go Greg Cason, psychologist joining me out of L.A. All right, if the allegations by some are true, that she was murdered, not only was she
murdered, but she was murdered in the home with a child who saw her mother murdered. What about that, Cason?
GREG CASON, PSYCHOLOGIST: Well, what about it? I mean, this little girl has got to be suffering greatly. You know, children are unreliable
witnesses in general. But I would have listened...
GRACE: Whoa! Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa!
CASON: What?
GRACE: Stop the train. Put him up. Can I ask you, just out of curiosity, Doctor, how many children you have personally put on the stand? Because I
would say I`ve put, I don`t know, 50 to 60 on the stand, and I`ve never had a problem with child witnesses.
CASON: No, Nancy, I`ve put zero on the stand. I`m not an attorney.
GRACE: Oh. OK.
CASON: I`m not an attorney. It`s not my job.
GRACE: So why are you saying that they make unreliable witnesses? Because I find them to be the most truthful witnesses.
CASON: That may be in some cases. But Nancy, come on. This -- but I do believe that this child needs to be listened to. I think the problem is...
GRACE: Back it up, sir! Uh-uh!
CASON: ... they dismissed this child out of hand.
GRACE: Rewind! Rewind! You just said children make unreliable witnesses. And I have found, in my practice, that they make the most reliable
witnesses. So I just wonder where that came from.
CASON: And I say -- well, because, Nancy, I`d say it`s actually somewhere in between. Unfortunately, sometimes children are influenced by other
things that are happening. But they usually don`t report that their own father or the man that was their stepfather had held a gun to their mother.
That needed to be paid attention to.
GRACE: They usually don`t because that usually doesn`t happen, Dr. Cason.
CASON: That`s right.
GRACE: And again, you`re basing this on all the children that you put on the stand, which is zero? No offense, but...
CASON: Which is zero. Yes. Exactly.
GRACE: OK. All right. Again, no offense. You`re the shrink. I`m just a lawyer.
Now, the defense lawyer tonight would have us all believe that the husband, the cop, Tom Fallis, was reacting to a suggestion that he was the one that
killed his wife. I say he`s rude and belligerent.
[20:20:13]You decide. Let`s take a look at these interrogation tapes.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
FALLIS: (INAUDIBLE) just leave, go get your sister and just tell her to call 911. And my oldest daughter went to come back in, and I was, like,
No, just leave. Just go. Call 911 and tell them to just come here quick! And I said, Open up the front door so they can get in! (INAUDIBLE) I heard
my kids crying in the bedroom (INAUDIBLE) she was still breathing (INAUDIBLE)
It was a .9-millimeter Taurus. She keeps it under her mattress. She was behind the side of the bed. She was...
(END VIDEO CLIP)
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
[20:25:00]UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Now it is past time for Ashley to get the proper investigation that she was deprived of from the very beginning.
FALLIS: I did not shoot Ashley. I didn`t shoot my wife! I didn`t shoot the mother of my kids!
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: There you are seeing the cop husband. That`s within about an hour after his wife, according to him, commits suicide at a New Year`s Eve party
in their home, with her three children in the home. You`re seeing this from CBS "48 Hours."
Unleash the lawyers, Misty Marris, New York, Troy Slaten, L.A. You know, isn`t it a coincidence that that night -- Liz, can you please pull up those
photos of his chest? That night -- I`m going to go to you with this, Troy Slaten. Just curious. Do you shave your chest?
SLATEN: No, I don`t, but thank you for asking.
(LAUGHTER)
GRACE: Have you ever? Have you ever?
SLATEN: No. It`s all real.
GRACE: Just curious because isn`t it odd that he says this is the first night of his life that he has ever shaved his chest? He takes it upon
himself I guess, to what, be hairless for the new year, and that he scratches himself up that night. Well, if that`s the first night he shaved
his chest, what`s all the hair doing on the chest? And why does he have a scratch on his neck, too? What is he, a werewolf? Troy?
SLATEN: I`m not an expert in -- I`m not an expert in body grooming, Nancy.
GRACE: And he shaves with (INAUDIBLE) .
SLATEN: There are a lot of problems in the -- who knows why somebody would shave their chest? Maybe he`s interested in...
GRACE: I`m not asking why, and I`m not judging.
SLATEN: ... starting body-building.
GRACE: What I`m saying is -- forgot the chest hair, what about the lie, Misty Marris. That`s what I`m talking about...
MARRIS: Nancy...
GRACE: ... the fact that he lied to cover up she scratched him when he was attacking her. That`s what I`m screaming.
(CROSSTALK)
MARRIS: Who`s to say it is a lie? Why do we automatically assume this is a lie?
GRACE: Because his chest is covered with hair.
MARRIS: Listen, I don`t know...
GRACE: He said he just shaved that night.
MARRIS: ... about the impact of a shaved chest. I can`t claim to know about that. But there`s no reason not to believe him. What other evidence
is there of an attack?
GRACE: (INAUDIBLE) the other picture, the close-up. Look. That.
MARRIS: Maybe he did a bad job.
GRACE: His chest is covered in hair. You know, you two are talking about the theories behind chest shaving. That`s not the issue. The issue is the
big, fat lie because if he`s lying about something as simple as shaving his chest -- who cares -- then wouldn`t he lie to save his own skin? Huh?
What about that, Marris?
MARRIS: Nancy, I do not see a man who is lying. I see a man who is traumatized...
(CROSSTALK)
MARRIS: ... suicide of his wife.
GRACE: Covered in scratches.
I want to go back to you, Zarrell. Hold on, Matt. Let me go to John Rush, host of "Rush to Reason," KLZ. Now we have two -- oh, yes. There you go.
John Rush, have you seen these photos? He no more shaved his chest that night than a man in the moon. And he`s making that up to cover up the fact
his wife scratched him when she -- when he attacked her. That`s what this is all about, John.
RUSH: You know, Nancy, I would have to agree with you. I`m not an attorney. I`m not a psychologist. I`ve listened to the other guests. And
there`s plenty of other evidence and things that have gone on here, you know, potential cover-ups, et cetera, where, yes, I think this is totally a
cover-up. I think he`s lying. I personally -- you know, I groom maybe differently than some other people do out there. But I`ll tell you one
thing. When I shave, I have never once ever cut myself or looked like he did after shaving. So to me, he`s lying.
GRACE: You know, another issue. And you know what is common sense? Look -- whoa! Whoa! Hold that photo. He`s covered in his wife`s blood.
Meredyth Censullo, investigative reporter, his whole left side is drenched with a pool of her blood. There`s more blood on him than there is on the
floor where she allegedly committed suicide, Meredyth.
And how did the little girls get dragged into this?
CENSULLO: Well, the little girls were questioned in the hours following the death of their mother.
GRACE: Right.
CENSULLO: So those statements are actually going to be brought into the mix later on as this investigation goes on. So they didn`t initially...
GRACE: And -- go ahead, dear.
CENSULLO: I was going to say they initially (INAUDIBLE) statements. And of course, there have been follow-up interviews since the time of their
mother`s death. But those initial statements are what`s important here, and they do include what you mentioned earlier, one of the little girls
saying that they saw daddy preparing a gun and they actually heard some noises.
And the fact that it was a pink gun, which we can only assume would be Ashley`s gun, unless Tom likes having a pink gun -- it just seems like
there was some forethought into which gun was used, whether it was a murder or whether it was a suicide.
[20:30:00] GRACE: Interesting. Did she have a pink gun, Matt Zarrell?
ZARRELL: Yeah. And our understanding is ...
GRACE: Did you say `yes`?
ZARRELL: We knew she had a gun.
GRACE: She had a gun?
ZARRELL: We knew she had a gun, and the gun, in your shot there, is a silver and black gun. The child could have been just confused by the color
in a rush of things.
But one thing that`s important is that she told a friend shortly before her death that she was concerned that she would end up fighting with her
husband and she needed to pull out her gun for safety.
GRACE: You know what`s interesting, Joe Scott Morgan, the fact that he, the husband, has more blood on him than is at the scene where she allegedly
committed suicide.
I mean, wouldn`t her heart beat a couple of more beats and pump that blood out? Explain.
JOSEPH SCOTT MORGAN, BALLISTICS EXPERT: Yeah, absolutely. A lot of this blood that you`re seeing on him could either come as a result of her being
injured and it transferred to him or after she was shot he could be wallowing around on the floor with her.
My thought is maybe he was wrestling with her to get into position before the gun went off. What`s really interesting, though, Nancy, this is what we
call an atypical gunshot wound.
If they are calling it suicide, it`s unlike any other suicide I have ever seen. The entrance wound is behind the ear as opposed to forward of the ear
and then it exits out going in a real odd angle. So, they are going to take a real long, hard look at this if they are going to call this a suicide, in
my opinion.
[20:35:00] (COMMERCIAL BREAK)
GRACE: Breaking news right now. We go live. A body found at a Phoenix recycling plant, just I.D.`d as the missing 24-year-old mom, Christy Leann
Davey.
(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A gruesome discovery. Workers at a Phoenix recycling plant discover a woman`s body on a conveyor belt.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is a picture from inside the recycling area. Phoenix police immediately closed off the facility so crime scene
investigators could suit up and go inside to figure out what happened.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The body was found on one of the conveyor belts that is used to sort the materials that are brought to the facility.
(END AUDIO CLIP)
GRACE: Joining me right now, Megan Cassidy, public safety reporter with the "Arizona Republic. " Megan, thank you for being with us. You are seeing
shots right now of Christy Davey, Christy Leann Davey. She is just 24 years old.
Her body found, just identified. It was apparently on a conveyor belt at a recycling facility. Megan, again, thank you for being with us.
What can you tell me first about this recycling facility? Is it open to the public or is it just for professionals, like the garbage guys, to drop off?
Could I go there, could an individual go there and drop off recyclables?
MEGAN CASSIDY, "ARIZONA REPUBLIC" PUBLIC SAFETY REPORTER: No. This is -- this is where the recyclables are sorted after somebody has already thrown
them away at their residence.
GRACE: OK. That`s important, Megan, because that would rule out, I think it would, anyway, somebody dumping her body there themselves. So, you are
telling me that her body would have to have been brought there on one of these trucks, is that right, Megan?
CASSIDY: From what I understand, it would have. That is what the working theory is, especially because it showed up early in the morning. So, the
facility was locked up the night before and so what the police are saying right now is it almost definitely would have been brought in from one of
these trucks.
GRACE: And Tammy Rose is joining me, investigative reporter. Megan Cassidy is right. From our research, we learned that this woman`s body, just 24-
year-old mom, Christy Leann Davey was found on a recycling conveyor belt inside this facility.
And I`ve got a lot of questions about who has access to this facility, who works for this facility, how people can get in, is it locked at night, are
there gates all the way around it?
But, you heard, Tammy, what Megan said, it opens at 5:30 a.m. and it is closed at 5:00 p.m. So, Tammy Rose, other than a trash truck coming in with
trash that they have picked up on their route, who else would have access to this facility where her body has just been found?
TAMMY ROSE, INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER: Well, police are telling us that they believe this woman was killed somewhere else and her body dumped in a
recycling trash bin. They service more than 400,000 people in their valley, and someone could have easily dropped off her body like at an apartment
complex in a bigger trash bin or perhaps dumped her body like in an industrial area where they have this bigger recycling bins.
So, I mean, that`s definitely a possibility. To actually get in the facility is heavy gated, there are surveillance cameras. And like you said,
this station is not designed for individual people to drop off their recyclable. So more than likely, her body was brought in from somewhere
else in the city of Phoenix.
GRACE: It just makes me sick, looking at her pictures. I mean, look at this young girl. She`s just 24 years old. There she is, pregnant. Twenty-four
years old. And her body found on a conveyor belt at a recycle bin -- recycling plant, like she`s trash.
Forget about her children. Forget about her life. Dumped like trash. And what Tammy Rose just told us, investigative reporter, makes it even scarier
because that plant services almost a half a million people in a metropolitan area.
That could be -- however many recycling trash cans, apartment complexes with the big dumpsters behind, her body thrown on a conveyer belt with
trash.
Dr. Lee Norman, joining me, chief medical officer at University of Kansas Hospital. Dr. Norman, they are right now saying they don`t know the cause
of death. What can we learn from her body, Dr. Norman?
[20:40:00] LEE NORMAN, UNIVERSITY OF KANSAS HOSPITAL CHIEF MEDICAL OFFICER: Well, her body will probably tell some of the story. The autopsy results
that they will have probably six to eight weeks from now hopefully will be enlightening.
Sometimes toxicology and other kinds of substances in the body will take even longer than that. So, I wouldn`t hold my breath on anything being
available just immediately from the autopsy.
GRACE: Well, you know, Dr. Norman, I certainly do not want to start a fight with you because you clearly know more about the human body than I do.
But, you said toxicology? I guarantee this woman did not go to a recycle bin -- recycle plant and commit suicide or O.D., all right? I don`t think
that is going to be an issue.
What I don`t understand is why they can`t look at the body and determine a cause of death. I mean, they could at least rule out gunshot wounds,
stabbing. I mean ...
NORMAN: Yes.
GRACE: ... even with a strangulation, be it manual or ligature or some other types of asphyxiation, that would be easily discernible with the
naked eye. Doctor?
NORMAN: Yes. there`s -- yeah, there`s lots of trauma and pother kinds of cause of death whether the heart was enlarged, whether was an infection
with the lungs, those kind of things. Now, traumatic death ...
(CROSSTALK)
GRACE: Whoa, whoa whoa, whoa!
NORMAN: ... should be ...
(CROSSTALK)
GRACE: Whoa, whoa whoa, whoa!
NORMAN: ... able to be seen.
GRACE: Dr. Norman, can I please see the kind doctor, chief medical officer at University of Kansas Hospital.
Dr. Norman, I don`t think we have to worry about it being an enlarged heart, all right? Because when you are having a large heart and you die
from that, you don`t somehow trip on to a conveyer belt at a recycling plant.
I don`t think that`s the cause of death. I`m just guessing.
NROMAN: I agree. It`s most likely due to trauma.
GRACE: You know, another issue, though, Michael Christian, speaking of what can we learn from the body, I wonder if we know -- hold on, Michael.
Let me throw this to Megan Cassidy, she may know -- public safety reporter with "Arizona Republic," what about the trash that was around her? Could
that be obtained? Was that saved in any way? Because that could hold clues as to what trash bin she was in.
CASSIDY: We -- yeah. Well, actually, police are looking at all the routes that are going on right now. I think there are about 65 different recycling
routes in the city like your other guest said, there are about 400,000 different residences a week.
But it`s all recorded. The police are being pretty tight-lipped on this case so far but I am sure that they have collected everything around her.
GRACE: Look at this girl.
CASSIDY: Her body was among some of the recycling.
GRACE: So young, so fresh-faced. Her life in front of her. Michael Christian, was she clothed, do we know?
MICHAEL CHRISTIAN, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER: Yes, she was, Nancy. And also, there was no sign of external trauma on her body. So, whatever killed her,
it wasn`t an obvious stabbing or shooting or strangulation.
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GRACE: Did a glamorous model and her FBI agent dad bludgeon her husband dead with a basketball bat, leaving his two children orphaned?
Heinous, atrocious, cruel. That`s cops describing the death of the Irish husband. The model and her dad deny murdering the husband with a baseball
bat and a landscaping stone that just coincidentally showed up in the bedroom that night. A landscaping stone. The two insisting we are not
guilty.
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THOMAS MARTENS, CHARGED OF KILLING JASON CORBETT: Hit him in the head.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: With what?
MARTENS: With a baseball bat.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We described a very bloody scene.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A former FBI agent and his daughter.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What`s your name?
MOLLY MARTENS CORBETT, CHARGED OF KILLING HER HUSBAND: Molly.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Facing murder charges.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The baseball bat, it still had blood and hair all over it.
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GRACE: I`m going to play the 911 call for you but first, I want to go to the senior news editor of dailymail.com, Candice Trunzo, joining me.
Candace, am I correct? Please feel free to correct me if I`m wrong, that her husband is dead. The children are orphaned.
CANDACE TRUNZO, DAILYMAIL.COM SENIOR NEWS EDITOR: Right.
GRACE: And she is actually contesting, she is fighting for, what? The forks and the spoons? She`s actually filing a motion to get back the forks and
spoons and the dishes and all that? Really?
TRUNZO: Yes. Really, really. Her husband is dead. She and her father are accused of bludgeoning him to death. An Irish businessman, very successful.
Days after the murder, the alleged murder, she went to the home with a trailer and trucks and took everything out of the house. It`s a really
curious case, Nancy.
GRACE: Stacey Newman, what did she take out of the home? I know a dog bed, but what else?
STACEY NEWMAN, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER: Well, Nancy, I mean, come on. She showed up with a U-Haul, backed it up and basically ...
(CROSSTALK)
GRACE: Wait.
NEWMAN: ... took everything but the kitchen sink.
(CROSSTALK)
GRACE: Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. So, her husband is not cold in the grave and she`s backing up a U-Haul? Did I understand that?
NEWMAN: Backing up a U-Haul and a trailer and taking everything but the kitchen sink and the door knob. She took dishes, she took furnitures, she
took mattresses, she took paintings.
Here are all the items, and I could go on and on. Everything, but the kitchen sink.
[20:50:00] GRACE: Unleash the lawyers, Misty Marris, New York; Troy Slaten, L.A. I was this close to playing the 911 call. But could I ask the two of
you, veteran trial lawyers? We`ll start with you, Marris.
You know, the jury can find out about this, all right? That she is actually -- not only does she backed up a U-Haul to clean out the house and
everything that was bought on her husband`s credit card.
Claiming it`s all hers, taking it basically away from his children but she actually filed a motion to contest to fight legally over the forks and
spoons. Really, you know what? I think I am going to just write her a check for the $45 it costs to buy a set of forks and spoons at Target, OK? She`s
actually battling over the forks and spoons, right?
MARRIS: Nancy, that doesn`t mean that she`s a murderer. It has nothing to do -- one thing has nothing to do with the other. She might be entitled to
some of her property, and that`s why she`s filing that motion.
GRACE: OK, Troy Slaten, the dog bed? The forks? Really?
SLATEN: Absolutely. Yes.
(CROSSTALK)
GRACE: I can`t wait ...
SLATEN: That`s the marital home.
(CROSSTALK)
GRACE: I can`t wait ...
SLATEN: You would expect that she would take her stuff.
(CROSSTALK)
SLATEN: Nancy, is she just supposed to abandon all of her property? Just supposed to abandon what she`s collected over her lifetime because her
husband is now dead?
(CROSSTALK)
GRACE: Over her lifetime? It`s not over her lifetime. Put -- put the list back up of what she took. OK. Candice Trunzo, sentimental items like a
washer and dryer?
TRUNZO: Yep.
GRACE: Seasonal decorations? The crib of the children that were not hers to start with. A filing cabinet? Really? Lamps?
TRUNZO: Yeah. And her -- you know, her husband was the breadwinner of the family. She contributed very little money. He paid for everything. And not
only did she take the stuff, she also took money out of their joint bank account which she really had no right to do. There was a consent order. She
was not to remove any property or use any money that belonged to her husband.
GRACE: So, the latest in the case right now. It is not a big staggering confession or statement or an outpouring emotion on her part. No
explanation of how a landscaping stone ended up in their bedroom that they used to bludgeon the husband dead.
But she`s actually gone to court, Candace, to fight over the forks and spoons. And that`s what`s happening?
TRUNZO: Yes. That is what`s happening. And the court says that she can keep certain things. She can keep her clothes and her trunk, her toiletries,
lamps that were in the living room, a glass shelf. So there are stuff -- a bed. There are stuff that she can keep but the rest of it has to be
returned to the court within 30 days.
[20:55:00] (COMMERCIAL BREAK)
GRACE: A heartbroken family, begging for your help to find their little girl, taken from her own bedroom.
(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Tonight, a family desperate to bring their missing teenage girl home is asking for your help. Malina vanished days ago and her
mom found out when she was shocked to find the girl was not in her room.
(END AUDIO CLIP)
GRACE: Joining us tonight is the mother of the missing girl, Malina Rangel. Rachel, thank you for being with us.
RACHEL RANGEL, MOTHER OF MISSING GIRL, MALINA RANGEL: Thank you.
GRACE: Tell me about your girl. It`s my understanding she has never gone missing before.
RANGEL: She has not.
GRACE: And what can you tell me about her disposition? Would she have called you, would she have let you know she`s okay?
RANGEL: I mean, I would hope that she would. She`s never done this before. So, you know, considering that, I hope that she would reach out to us.
GRACE: Now, the 14-year-old little girl we`re talking about is Malina Rangel. Take a look at this shot. The tip line is 815-966-2900. She is 5-
foot 3, only weighs about 100 pounds.
Brown hair, brown eyes, a little small scar between her eyebrows. She was last seen in what she wore to school that day. Black leggings, a black
shirt with a pink fleece, black boots. She has with her a teal-colored book bag and a white with a white flowery print.
Now, let me understand. With us, her mother, Rachel Rangel. Ma`am, you`re saying she has never gone missing before. Now, did she have a cell phone
with her?
RANGEL: No, she does not have a cell phone.
GRACE: Is she often on Facebook, Twitter, anything like that?
RANGEL: She has accounts on them but she doesn`t have access to those.
GRACE: And what, if anything, are police telling you?
RANGEL: It`s kind of quiet right now. They did not yet give me information or, you know, share information that he has and we share information that
we believe that we have and that`s about it.
GRACE: Everyone, please take a look at this girl. This schoolgirl, gone. Tip line 815-966-2900.
Let`s remember to honor our American heroes. Maryland officers Cody Fields and Brian Nesbitt, rescued an unconscious driver after a fiery crash,
breaking through car windows to pull the man out of the fire. Both officers awarded the Medal of Valor, the county`s highest honor for law enforcement.
Cody Fields, Brian Nesbitt, American heroes.
And happy birthday to our Superstar, Blue. And what a birthday, our blue got engaged. And we wish you both all the happiness in the world.
"Forensic Files" up next tonight. And I want to thank our guests, especially though, to you, for being with us. Nancy Grace, signing off for
the night. I`ll see you tomorrow night, 8 o`clock sharp, Eastern. And until then, good night friend.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: All homes have a history, which includes the memories, hopes and dreams ...
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