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[20:00:00] NANCY GRACE, HLN HOST: Breaking news tonight, two dead, nearly 20 wounded at a Fort Myers teen dance club after a gunman opens fire on
victims as young as just 12 years old, left fighting for their lives tonight after they do their best to duck and dive, a hail of bullets. Who
-- who -- would open fire on children and teens? At this hour, no arrests.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We continue to learn more information about the deadly shooting that happened here at Club Blu overnight.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Officers arrived on scene, found multiple victims suffering from various levels of gunshot wounds.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Gunmen started firing outside around 12:30.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I thank God my daughter is OK. She could have been shot. Her dodging bullets, I mean, running, dropping between cars.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: Live, Newport. She goes to a Halloween costume party dressed as super-villain Poison Ivy from "Batman." Amidst the party goers, she
disappears, never seen alive again. Police find parts of her Halloween costume connected to Chelsea Bruck, the naked body of Chelsea recovered.
But tonight, is there a break in the case?
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Last seen at a Halloween party in Frenchtown (ph) township, she was dressed as the "Batman" villain, Poison Ivy.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A Newport man arrested.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: During the interview, detectives obtained details that only the killer would have known.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: Good evening. I`m Nancy Grace. I want to thank you for being with us.
Bombshell tonight, two dead, nearly 20 wounds at a Fort Myers teen dance club after a gunman opens fire, the victims as young as just 12 years old
tonight fighting for their lives after they duck and dive, a hail of bullets he unleashes. Who would open fire on children and teens, middle
schoolers? Well, at this hour, still no arrest.
Straight out to Bob Alexander, news director at Fox News. Bob, hold on just one moment. Let`s go straight into a presser.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, the first thing I`m going to do is just get rid of the -- any thought. This was not an act of terror. This was not a
terrorist act. So if you`ve seen that, heard that, read that, whatever it is, you can put that out of your minds.
What did happen and what I`m going to go over with is the investigative part. It`s an active investigation. I`m going to be answering no
questions regarding it. I`m sure there`s things that have happened since I`ve been in here that I`m not even aware of and I won`t know until I get
out of here. So we`ll keep to that. I`ll put it out. If you need clarification, we can clarify things and we can do that through e-mail at
some point.
The location this took place was called Club Blu. It`s located at 3580 Evans Avenue in Fort Myers. At approximately 12:38 AM, we had reports of
gunshots being fired with subjects were struck down at the parking lot.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: 12:38 AM, just after midnight, a gunman or two gunmen go into this teen dance club. Now, this is not a place that you can get alcohol. It`s
not a drug haven, nothing like that. It is designed and targeted for people around 12 years old. They have music. They have food. They have
noshes (ph). And it`s a lot of fun, good, clean fun until a gunman opens fire on a lot of children.
Back to you, Bob Alexander, news director there at Fox News. What happened? What do we know?
BOB ALEXANDER, 92.5 FOX NEWS (via telephone): Nancy, we know that Club Blu was hosting what they were calling a "swimsuit glow" party Sunday night
where no ID was required. It was open to all ages. Just as the club was starting to close down, several parents had showed up to pick their kids
up, when all of a sudden, the gunfire erupted.
It was a mass of bullets flying around. People were screaming and yelling, trying to get out of the way, ducking between cars. And it was just mass
chaos, according to witnesses.
GRACE: Well, I don`t understand, Bob Alexander, news director there at Fox News in Fort Myers. If they don`t -- if they haven`t arrested anybody, I
don`t know how they can rule out terrorism. And I`m also -- I don`t understand how this whole thing goes on. You mean there were people there
at 12 midnight as young as 12 years old, Bob?
[20:05:00]ALEXANDER: Yes, that`s the case, Nancy. I know a lot of people have been questioning what was going on with having kids that young out on
a Sunday night as late as midnight, but the fact remains they were there. It was designed, according to the club, for kids between the ages of 12 and
17. But with no ID being checked, it didn`t matter who showed up because they weren`t being sought out anyway.
So at this point, the only thing the law enforcement will say is that the investigation is ongoing. There have been no arrests made and -- but
they`re saying that it definitely was not terrorism. That was something the Fort Myers...
GRACE: Well, you know...
ALEXANDER: ... police chief wanted to make a big point about.
GRACE: ... I appreciate them telling me that, but if they haven`t made an arrest, I don`t know how they can know what the motive is.
To Bob Alexander. What do we know about security cameras there? Was any of this caught on camera?
ALEXANDER: Still waiting to find out if there was anything as far as security on camera, the Fort Myers police, of course, not releasing many
details of the investigation. What we can tell you is that Club Blu put out a statement saying that they had full security, armed security inside
and out. So that`s about the only thing we know about the security at the club itself.
GRACE: Well, it didn`t work. Two are dead, both young teens, Stefan Strawder and Sean Archilles both dead. Tonight, victims as young as 12
years old are fighting for their lives. Over what? This isn`t a safe place. Somebody comes into a teen haven, really children, they`re not --
some of them are not even teens -- and opens fire, adult men open fire?
Hold on. Let`s go straight back to the presser.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Officers responded. They got there really quickly. There was also members of Lee County sheriff`s office responded and
assisted. I`m very proud of all that responded to the scene. It was very chaotic. It was still very active. No one really knew what was going on
and what happened.
And the officers and deputies immediately started triage for some of the injured individuals. We carry trauma kits inside the vehicles, and they
started trying to help patch the individuals up, get tourniquets on to get them ready for transport as quickly as possible.
Some of the injured parties actually drove themselves to the hospital or made it there by other means. The rest were transported by Lee County EMS.
We had individuals show up at Cape Coral (ph) hospital, Lee Memorial hospital, Naples hospital, and I believe Health Park (ph) and possibly even
Gulf Coast. So there were a lot of folks went a lot of different directions.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: Joining me right now, special guest Joe North, a very well respected lawyer out of the Fort Myers jurisdiction. And he is
representing one of the shooting victims. Mr. North, thank you for being with us.
JOE NORTH, ATTORNEY FOR SHOOTING VICTIM`S FAMILY: Thank you, Nancy.
GRACE: Now, Stefan was murdered. He was killed. His sister was also shot. He was I think leaving the club with his sister when this all went
down.
What are you learning, Mr. North, about -- look at him! Look at him, scrubbed in sunshine! Look at that, a great student, a great basketball
player, the apple of his parents` eyes. He`s dead. Why? This senseless shooting! I don`t understand who would go into a teeny bopper club, where
they`re playing music and eating, you know, nachos. And there`s no booze. There`s no alcohol. There are children in there as young as 12 years old,
and gunned them down?
Mr. North, what does the sister say happened when her brother was murdered?
NORTH: Well, I think that the way you placed it is correct. The security did not work. There was obviously some security on site, but it was more
security for show instead of security for real. From what I understand, there was no metal detector to get into the club. And even though there
were...
GRACE: Well, now, wait a minute. Joe -- Joe, I hear you on that. But who would think you need metal detectors for 12-year-olds? Now, I`m posing
that question, Joe, when, actually, before I started trying felonies in court, I tried a lot of cases in juvenile. And the reality is, is that,
yes, juveniles will carry weapons and they will kill and commit every other felony under the sun. So actually, you`re right. At a gathering like
that, you do need metal detectors, whether you think it`s just kids or not.
OK, back to what happened, Mr. North. Go ahead.
NORTH: Because what happened is more than kids entered the club. Grown men entered the club, and from I understand, there were two different
groups of grown men that had a beef on the inside of the club. And when the beef escalated, that`s when everyone started to leave, and then the
shooting started on the outside of the club.
[20:10:03]GRACE: To Michael Christian. This is another issue I don`t understand. Why would -- I call it a teeny bopper club. There are
children as young as 12 there dancing, you know, 14, 15-year-olds, a whole group of pre-teens and teens there.
Why would grown men even be allowed in, Michael? That`s the last thing you`d want at your 12-year-old`s party is a bunch of grown men there.
MICHAEL CHRISTIAN, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER (via telephone): Well, even though this was aimed at middle and high school students, Nancy, it was basically
an open night. They said it was open to anyone of any age. And they have said that shooting victims in this case range from age 12 to age 27.
GRACE: I guarantee you the parents of 12-year-olds did not know that their girls and boys were mingling with 27-year-old men. I don`t like the sound
of that at all.
Let`s go back in the presser real quick.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: As you can understand, this was a huge undertaking for these hospitals with an influx of individuals with gunshot wounds at that
point. Unfortunately, two of the victims have deceased. I would like on behalf of law enforcement officers condolence -- offer condolences to the
families of those individuals.
We are currently working closely with the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, Lee County sheriff`s office, the Federal Bureau of
Investigations and the Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. Everyone is playing a bit of a different role. There`s a lot of hours, investigative hours,
going into this. But I remain very resolved that justice will be served.
I will tell you we have three persons of interest in custody. I`m not going into who they are. And we`re still looking for others.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
[20:16:04]UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This was promoted as a "glow party" out at Club Blu last night. We know a lot of teenagers were there as evidenced by
the ages of these victims, just 12 years old up to 27 years old.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We do at this point have two confirmed dead.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Been here for now 17 years. And this is -- in terms of gunshot wound victims, this is the worst I`ve ever seen it.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: A gunman -- at least one, maybe more -- opened fire inside a teen dance club. Right now, two dead as many others fight for their lives, some
of them as young as just 12 years old, the parents allowing the children to go to Club Blu, targeting 12 and 13-year-old children, playing all the
songs that they like, no alcohol, no drugs allowed, when in come grown men and open fire.
Now, the Fort Myers police insisting this is not terrorist-related. Does that make a difference to the parents of the dead children? And why would
grown men be allowed in a children`s, teen dance club? That`s what I don`t understand.
Bob Alexander, news director, joining me there in Fort Myers. Bob, what is Club Blu? How are they responding to all of this?
ALEXANDER: Nancy, Club Blu has issued a statement saying that they`re very sorry for everybody that was involved in the shooting. They are saying
they tried to give the teens what they thought was a safe place to have a good time. Again, they claim that armed security was there inside and out.
And they say, as the club was closing, the parents were picking children up when all this took place. They`re saying they don`t think anything else
could have been done as it was not the kids at the party that did this, what they`re calling a despicable act, but others outside the club.
GRACE: Take a listen to what one mom says.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I just thank God that my daughter is OK. She could have been shot. Her dodging bullets and running, dropping between cars.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And what happened to your daughter? She ran from some of the bullets.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She was running away from bullets so she wouldn`t get shot.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: Can you imagine taking your child to a party, a birthday party, a get-together, an end-of-the-school party at this Club Blu teen dance club,
to only find out that adult men are allowed in that then opened fire, killing two, wounding nearly 20 others, 12-year-olds tonight fighting for
their lives, clinging to life.
Unleash the lawyers, Andell Brown joining me out of Miami, Troy Slaten out of L.A., and of course, a lawyer on the case, Joe North joining us.
OK, to you, Troy Slaten. This has death penalty written all over it, two dead, victims as young as 12 years old. Troy, what`s your defense?
TROY SLATEN, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: If this was an intentional shooting, if they were trying to kill people, then, yes, that`s a death penalty case.
But I`m concerned about parental liability and the liability of the club here because Florida has a curfew statute. Kids -- minors are not supposed
to be out in Florida after 11:00 PM...
GRACE: Put him up!
SLATEN: ... on a Saturday or Sunday night.
GRACE: Why are you, Troy Slaten, talking to me about a kid breaking a curfew, with the parents out in the parking lot waiting to pick them up...
SLATEN: Because, Nancy...
GRACE: ... when you`ve got two dead bodies to deal with? Like, it`s they`re fault that they were breaking curfew? Ooh! Hold on just a
moment...
SLATEN: This is why curfew laws...
GRACE: And another thing you said...
SLATEN: This is why they`re in place. We have curfews because 12-year- olds should not be at a nightclub.
GRACE: Let`s clarify something that you just said, Troy Slaten. I don`t want to mislead the viewers on the law. Isn`t it true, Troy, that the law
reads in every jurisdiction in our country -- this is a Supreme Court ruling, that the law presumes you intend the natural consequence of your
act.
[20:20:14]For instance, if I held up a piece of fine china and I threw it down on the cement floor, the law would assume that I meant to break it.
Isn`t that true? Just -- that`s a yes (INAUDIBLE)
SLATEN: That`s true, but you...
GRACE: OK, that was a yes or no.
SLATEN: ... know that somebody`s not guilty if they`re under duress.
GRACE: So if somebody takes -- oh, that`s a new legal theory. Your last legal theory, Troy -- you know, don`t mess with me. Your last theory was,
Maybe they didn`t mean to kill. Now, the law would presume then under our discussion that if you put a bullet in a gun and then you hold it up and
you pull the trigger in a crowded teen dance club that you intend to, what, kill?
SLATEN: Yes. Yes, that`s true. But here, Nancy...
GRACE: Whoa. Boy, that...
(CROSSTALK)
GRACE: ... pulling teeth. You know, I`m just a lawyer. I`m not a DDS. I`m a JD, for Pete`s sake. So Andell Brown, my point is, you shoot a gun
into a crowded teen dance club, you intend to kill or shoot, right? Do you agree with that?
ANDELL BROWN, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Nancy, in Florida, they have a "stand your ground" law, and when you look at this case, there are...
GRACE: That does not apply here.
BROWN: ... multiple people that could be involved, more than one shooter.
GRACE: Stand your ground?
BROWN: If someone is threatening violence or causing danger to your life, you have a right to defend yourself. We don`t know that that person wasn`t
defending themselves and standing their ground from another person...
GRACE: What, from a 12-year-old...
BROWN: ... with a gun.
GRACE: ... with a lollipop?
(CROSSTALK)
GRACE: Are you serious? OK...
(CROSSTALK)
GRACE: ... do you hear that, North?
BROWN: There was an altercation with the adults. You talked about that. We got to get all the facts.
GRACE: Joe North, do you hear this? Do you hear what you`re up against? To what, these two -- these grown men come in and defend themselves against
what, a teen girl throwing a slushie at them? What? What are they defend themselves against? Stand your ground does not apply in this case. Stand
your ground is when you`re being attacked, you have a right to defend yourself. What about that, Mr. North?
NORTH: Well, these grown men are definitely responsible for their actions. But even more than that, Club Blu is responsible because at a commercial
property like that, when there have been prior crimes committed either on that property...
GRACE: Well, on that I disagree with you, Joe...
NORTH: ... or in the are...
GRACE: ... because I agree with you that Club Blu bears some responsibility, but Club Blue didn`t pick up guns and start firing. I
mean, you can`t negate the gunmen.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
[20:26:14]UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Investigators are still on the scene processing evidence. You can see dozens of yellow markings scattered
across the ground outside of Club Blu.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And what happened to your daughter? She ran from some of the bullets.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She was running away from bullets so she wouldn`t get shot.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: Can you imagine your 12-year-old little boy or girl -- you let them go to a teen dance club, no booze, no alcohol, and grown men come in and
unleash a hail of bullets on your children? That is exactly what happened. That is exactly what happened at a Fort Myers teen club.
You know, what I don`t understand, Bob Alexander, news director at Fox News -- I know they are now -- questioned three unidentified adult males, but
there have been no arrests. How can that be? Nobody could see the shooters in a packed club like that? Why no arrests?
ALEXANDER: Well, Nancy, as you know well with law enforcement, they want to make sure that every I is dotted and T is crossed before they announce
any arrests. They`re also saying they`re still looking for others involved. So aside from the three individuals that are being detained for
questioning, there are still others, apparently, that they`re looking into that could be involved in this whole case.
GRACE: To Joe Scott Morgan, certified death investigator, professor of forensics at Jacksonville State Unfortunately -- Joe Scott, The complexity
of this scene -- I mean, you saw that video of investigators still out there processing the scene with all the shells, all the ballistics. I
mean, can you imagine? This is -- can you even imagine your child just getting wheeled out on a gurney from a dance party?
JOSEPH SCOTT MORGAN, CERTIFIED DEATH INVESTIGATOR: No, absolutely not, Nancy. This is a hellish nightmare for these children to have to be a part
of. And let me kind of paint the picture for you. When you have a large group of people like this and rounds start going off, it turns into almost
a stampede, and people are running in multiple directions.
And this creates an even more complicated environment for the forensics people to come in because you have overlapping, overlying evidence that`s
combined with blood, debris, all these other things that they`re going to have to work their way through. And plus, you want to determine how many
different weapons are involved. That way, the police can determine how many different shooters they`re having to deal with.
[20:30:00] (COMMERCIAL BREAK)
GRACE: Live, Newport. She goes to a costume party dressed as super villain Poison Ivy from Batman. Amid all the other party goers, she disappears and
is never seen alive again.
After police find parts of her Halloween costume, the naked body of Chelsea Bruck is recovered. But tonight, is there a break in the case?
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She was dressed as the Poison Ivy character from Batman.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Found a body in this heavily wooded area in Ash Township.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Connected to 27-year-old Newport man to this investigation.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He provided details in his interrogation that only quote, a killer would know.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
[20:35:00] GRACE: Straight out to Katrease Stafford with the Detroit Free Press. Katrease, there`s been a major break in the case and at this hour,
police suspect the involvement of 27-year-old Daniel Allan Clay. Let`s see Clay in court.
This was a cold case. She goes missing. Recover it extensively. Still waiting on that video of him in court. Here is Daniel Allan Clay. A 27-
year-old man from Newport. He`s in court. This is just in the last hours. Katrease Stafford, from Detroit Free Press, how is he linked to the
disappearance of Chelsea Bruck?
KATREASE STAFFORD, REPORTER FROM DETROIT FREE PRESS: Well, like you said, Nancy, this is a story that has a bit of history. It goes back over two
years from when she initially disappeared from that Halloween party back in October 2014.
Daniel claimed he was linked to this because the Michigan State Police were able to somehow obtain some sort of evidence in their crime lab that
connected them to Clay.
Now police have not officially released what that evidence is, but I have heard from a few sources that it was some sort of DNA evidence that linked
him directly to Chelsea`s homicide.
GRACE: Katrease, let`s see the scene of the party. Now, look at this. Do we have any sound from this band that was playing?
(BAND PLAYING)
GRACE: That is video of a previous Pick Axe Preacher`s concert. Chelsea had seen this. This is from You Tube.
They were playing at the party and this is what I understand happened. There -- there started to be a party of around two or 300 people and it was
going to be in a big open field. Well, the word got out. And Katrease Stafford, how many people ended up coming to the party?
STAFFORD: Well, this was a huge gathering. Like you said, it started out initially being around 200 people but more than 800 people showed up to
this party. So, it was pretty large. It was a big number of young people from the community that ended up showing up.
GRACE: Turned out being well over a thousand people out in this open field. Take a look. Is that Chelsea right there? The only thing left of her is
shortly thereafter they find a piece of her Poison Ivy costume that she was wearing.
Let`s pull that up. It was out in the middle of a field. That`s her costume. At the time of the party, she was wearing this costume. You are
seeing video from another concert she went to. But only a tiny piece. Look at that.
How difficult was it for police to find just a leaf. One leaf off of her Poison Ivy costume. And based on that, they soon find her body. To forensic
anthropologist, a professor from Florida Gulf Coast University, Professor Heather Walsh-Haney. Heather, thank you for being with us. We really need
you tonight.
Heather, there`s a lot a of decomposition on Chelsea`s body. I`s my understanding that they had to identify her through her dental records. So,
I`m not positive that DNA is what linked her up to Clay, but how could she be identified after all this time, Heather?
HEATHER WALSH-HANEY, FORENSIC ANTHROPOLOGIST: It`s been my experience working on (inaudible) as well as individual cases in Florida that usually
the fastest way to get a positive ID is through finger prints, which in this case was not available, because of the time that her remains were left
out in the element.
But then the next fastest method is dental ID, where the forensic dentist will compare in life dental records and x-rays with what they chart and
evaluate after death. So, comparing the end life and the postmortem records to establish the positive ID.
GRACE: Dr. Heather Walsh-Haney with me, forensic anthropologist. Doctor, question, how long do human teeth stay intact?
WALSH-HANEY: Oh, my goodness, Nancy. We have human skeletal remains with teeth that go back thousands upon thousands of years, even million years.
So, the -- the dental structure is -- is not as susceptible to environmental change.
GRACE: Yeah. But -- but these are not bones. So, how do they stay intact for so long, Heather?
WALSH-HANEY: Bone is of a different cellular structure than teeth. Teeth is one of the hardest substances in our body and it`s locked in a lattice.
That also has to do with why we can usually get DNA from intact teeth from within the roots and within dentin rather than bone.
Bone is very porous and over time and with the application of rain or water, it can literally dissolve into the ground surface. Whereas teeth, if
we`re lucky and they`re not cracked or damaged at the time of death, can last for decades if not millennia.
GRACE: With me is Dr. Heather Walsh-Haney, forensic anthropologist. And joining me right now is the best friend of the suspect, Daniel Allan Clay.
Joining me is Jamie Eaton. Jamie, thank you for being with us.
JAMIE EATON, BEST FRIEND OF SUSPECT, DANIEL CLAY: Thank you for having me.
GRACE: Jamie, I know that a lot of people think this is coming totally from left field. They say that they would never have thought Daniel Allan Clay
would have anything to do with a crime much less a murder. What can you tell us about Daniel Clay?
EATON: Well, first, I want to start by saying that the -- the only tragedy here is that her family went so long without knowing what happened to her.
Now, one I can tell you about Daniel Clay is only my personal past experiences with him. This is completely out of character. I don`t know if
there was intention on this. I don`t know if this was something that just happened and he panicked. But this was completely out of character.
Everyone that knows him...
GRACE: What we do know, Jamie, is -- is as far as your theory about panicking, she was killed by blunt force trauma to her head. So, I don`t
know if that was like an accident. It doesn`t really sound like an accident to me.
But what we do know, also, is that her underwear and some of her jewelry, according to reports, were found in his home.
[20:40:00] (COMMERCIAL BREAK)
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Last seen at a Halloween party in Frenchtown Township. She was dressed as the Batman villain, Poison Ivy.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A Newport man arrested.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: During the interview, detectives obtained details that only the killer would have known.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: I wonder what that was. Details about Chelsea Bruck`s disappearance that only the killer would know. To Stacey Newman, also on the story along
with Katrease Stafford. Stacey, what can you tell me about Chelsea`s underwear being found in this guy`s home that he shared with his
girlfriend?
First of all, Stacey, wouldn`t you notice if your live-in had somebody else`s underwear in their drawer? Start with that. But Is that true? Is
that what the reports are that it`s jewelry and underwear?
STACEY NEWMAN, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER: Yeah. The reports are it`s jewelry, woman`s underwear. The jewelry included ring and there`s also report the
items were actually found inside of a backpack that was in his home. So, those items may have been hidden from the girlfriend.
GRACE: Right. So, she probably never saw that. I wanna go back to special guest, Jamie Eaton, who was the best friend of the suspect, Daniel Clay,
27-year-old from Newport. Jamie, how did they know each other? How did he know Chelsea? Did they go to school together?
EATON: I actually have no knowledge of how they knew each other and to the best of my knowledge, it was just a chance encounter.
GRACE: A chance encounter. Did the girlfriend cooperate with police, Jamie? I mean, how did police manage to get in not only into his home. There you
are. We are showing you an arrow of Chelsea. She was a fan of Pick Axe Preacher. She had been to their concert before. This is one of their
concerts. We`ve been able to identify her in the crowd. This is what she really looked like.
At first, we only have pictures of her dressed as Poison Ivy with wig and the outfit. But this is what the young woman looked like. She goes to have
a good time and -- and let me understand.
Stacey, how did it go? How did she go missing that night because she was there with a bunch of her girlfriends.
NEWMAN: Yeah, she was there with friends. And actually, people have said they have seen the suspect at the party. At some point, she got separated
from her friends and left the party at 3:00 a.m., and she was seen with a mystery man that nobody could identify early in the investigation.
GRACE: With me is Dr. Judith Zackson, clinical psychologist out of New York. Judith, thanks for being with us. I find it really hard to believe
that Chelsea Bruck just went off with somebody she just met that night.
I`m wondering if somebody was in her drink. I`m wondering if maybe she knew him from the area and didn`t think anything of it because she specifically
went with a group of girls. They stuck together. They had each other cell phones.
They all went looking for her and couldn`t find her. So, I find that behavior inconsistent with her just leaving really nearly with somebody she
just met at a party.
JUDITH ZACKSON, CLINICAL PSYCHOLOGIST: Yeah. He probably knew her. He probably knew how to coax her and how to get her to leave with him. He`s a
guy who fits the profile of a sociopath. They can be really nice and charming and sweet, and then when they have you, this other personality
comes out where they become vicious killers.
And that actually turns them on. Their threshold is much higher than ours. So, he could have wanted to kill her just to get off sexually. This is a
very sick man who have this in mind and her costume probably took him over the edge which turned him on even more.
[20:45:00] GRACE: Okay. Had not thought of that aspect at all. Jamie Eaton, you`re his best friend. Does any of this sound possible?
EATON: In today`s day and age, anything is possible. But as far as him being some type of deviant or someone who was out looking to commit a
murder, no. That doesn`t sound right.
GRACE: We`ll be right back with more on the disappearance of Chelsea Ellen Bruck and about the 27-year-old man now suspected in her kidnap and murder.
But quickly, there`s a 10-year-old little boy gone. This 10-year-old Arizona schoolboy vanishes into thin air. Kyle Peltz, how did Jesse go
missing?
KYLE PELTZ, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER: Yeah, Nancy. Ten-year-old Jesse Wilson was last seen in his room last Sunday night at 9:30 p.m. when he went to
bed and he hasn`t been seen since.
This is just weeks before the new school year set to start. And as of right now, police say foul play has not been ruled out.
GRACE: Wait a minute. This Arizona schoolboy goes missing. What do we know about mommy calling 911, Kyle?
PELTZ: Right. Jesse`s mom reported him missing at 1:41 a.m. That`s about four hours after Jesse went to bed. There had been some criticism about her
call because she didn`t call 911. She called the police department`s non- emergency number instead, and we actually obtained that call.
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UNIDENTIFIE FEMALE: Buckeye police. How can I help you?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: My son has either climbed out the window, which he`s done before, or he has gone out the back door.
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GRACE: You know, Kyle, this little boy, this Arizona schoolboy, just ten years old, is gone. I really resent attack on the mother. She called the
police. Who cares if she had the number posted on her fridge or she called 911.
The point is she called police and the boy is gone. If he climbed out the window or somebody took him, the reality is he`s still out there on the
streets. That is not safe. So, what`s the latest? I don`t want to hear any criticism of the mother.
PELTZ: That`s right, Nancy, and the search for Jesse is still very active. However, the weather in Arizona where this boy disappeared has been making
the search very difficult.
The temperature since he has been missing has gotten as high as 111 degrees. On one day they actually had to suspend the search due to the
extreme heat.
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GRACE: A gorgeous 22-year-old girl goes missing at a costume party. We have been on this case for two years now trying to crack the case of missing
Chelsea Bruck.
This is her in life at a concert. That night she goes dressed as Poison Ivy, the villain from Batman. She`s never seen alive again. Katrease
Stafford, joining us, the reporter with Detroit Free Press. Katrease, you actually spoke to the suspect`s girlfriend. What, if anything, did you
learn?
STAFFORD: Yes, I spoke with her Saturday, the day after, you know, he was arrested and all this came out, Kelli Richter. She is now his ex-
girlfriend. You know, she -- she was pretty traumatized. She was crying as I was interviewing her.
She told me that literally right before I, you know, got in touch with her, she got a call from him while he was at the jail and he pretty much
admitted to her that he had involvement in Chelsea`s death.
He claimed it was an accident and that she died during consensual sex. That`s what she said. And you know, honestly, she said she`s not sure what
to believe.
This is someone she met last year. They both worked at McDonald`s together. They were friends and it turned into a relationship. She said she never
would have even dreamed he would do something like this. She`s -- she`s just stunned.
GRACE: Unleash the lawyers. Andell Brown, Miami (inaudible). Also with me, Scott Morgan (inaudible) Jacksonville (ph). Okay. Andell Brown, consensual
sex? She was beaten, bludgeoned dead in the head.
ANDELL BROWN, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY: What happened here, Nancy, was that they left that party together under her own power consensually, and
they had an encounter. It got a little bit out of the hand and Daniel...
GRACE: Like a homicide.
BROWN: ... he panicked. He didn`t know what was gonna happen, and he panicked. And that`s what his girlfriend said...
GRACE: ... panicked. Panicked over what? They -- no, that`s not gonna work.
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BROWN: ... during an accident that happened during a consensual...
(CROSSTALK)
BROWN: ... that`s what the evidence show.
GRACE: Let`s stop and remember American hero, Army Sergeant William Fernandez, 37, Mount Penn, Pennsylvania. Bronze Star, Purple Heart,
paramedic, highway named in his honor. Parents Carmen and Guillermo. One sister, two brothers. Widow, Jennifer. Daughter, Elizabeth. William
Fernandez, American hero.
Special good night to star intern, Casey, and her awesome family and friends, Bill, Rhonda, Mary, Andy. Aren`t they beautiful. And happy
birthday to Florida friend, Shalonda, a teacher who loves her church and time with her family. Happy birthday.
Thanks for being with us tonight, inviting all of us into your homes. Nancy Grace signing up. I`ll see you tomorrow night 8:00 sharp eastern and until
then. Goodnight, friends.
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