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[08:00:00] KRISTIE LU STOUT, HOST: I'm Kristie Lu Stout in Hong Kong and welcome to News Stream.

Investigators say Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 was shot down by a missile brought into Ukraine from Russia, killing almost 300 people

onboard.

Now, tributes to a political giant after Israeli statesman Shimon Peres dies. A pivotal figure who shaped his country's direction for

decades.

And the fallout from the first U.S. presidential debate, Donald Trump hits out at Hillary Clinton as both candidates are back on the campaign

trail.

And we begin with the newly released results of a criminal investigation into the downing of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17. Dutch

officials say the missile system that shot down the plane over Eastern Ukraine came from Russia and was returned to Russia. They also say the

missile was launched in territory controlled by pro-Russian separatists. The plane was downed two years ago. All 298 people on board were killed,

mostly Dutch citizens.

Now, Phil Black has been closely following the investigation into the crash. He joins us now live from CNN London. And Phil, the report does

not name or blame, but it does pinpoint where the missile was fired and where it came from. Walk us through the report.

PHIL BLACK, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: It links Russia, Kristie, that is the crucial point, the clear headline, in this update, if

you like and the ongoing criminal investigation into that air crash, as you say, July 2014. It's an international investigative committee made up of

the Dutch, Ukrainians, Malaysians, Australians, because these were the countries that were obviously linked -- Ukraine, because of its airspace,

the other countries because those are the nationalities of the 298 people who died that day.

We know, or have known, because the Dutch safety board identified the type of missile system that was used to bring this down. What has remained

contentious is where that missile system came from and who actually fired it. It's contentious because it's Russian made, but the Ukrainian military

also owns these weapons and Russia has continued to suggest as recently as this week that it was fired by Ukrainian forces.

What this investigative committee is saying is that, no, that was not the case. They say they have a wealth of evidence that shows this

particular missile system was brought from Russian Federation territory into Ukraine. They were able, they say, to chart the progress of that

convoy through Ukrainian territory to the point where it was fired and they say that they have a wealth of evidence, from mobile phone towers that

locked on to people who were traveling in that convoy, intercepted phone calls, witnesses who saw the progress of the convoy, and who were in the

area at the time of the launch, and social media material -- videos, pictures, things that were posted on to the internet at around that time,

images of the missile system and the convoy that they have been able to authenticate.

So, in their words, it is considerable evidence. And from all of that, they say, they were also able to pinpoint the location from where the

missile was fired itself.

Let's listen now to one of the lead Dutch investigators talking about that information.

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WILBERT PAULSSON, HEAD OF DUTCH NATIONAL DETECTIVE FORCE (through translator): All this evidence allows us to draw the conclusion that the

launch site was fired in the vicinity of (inaudible). The field is approximately 500 by 600 meters and this is the highest spot in the area

within a radius of five kilometers. The farmland is surrounded by trees, except from the western side.

Previously, the Dutch Safety Board obviously had already concluded that a missile must have been launched from an area of 320 square

kilometers southeast of (inaudible). The farmland near (inaudible) is located in that area.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BLACK: Now, this is a criminal investigation. So its purpose is to ultimately bring people to

justice before a court. It is gathering evidence, it says, that could be used in a court of law. So the next part of the investigation is to

determine who actually is responsible for shooting down the aircraft. And the authorities say that that's an ongoing part of the investigation. What

they say they are looking at now is a pool of suspects, but what they are trying to determine is the chain of command, who ultimately ordered them to

fire on that aircraft. Was it something that they did on their own initiative, or was it someone from further up the chain of command. And so

that aspect of the investigation continues, but the clear implication from this is that who they are now targeting, those they are now trying to go

after and bring to justice are members of the Russian military -- Kristie.

LU STOUT: Phil Black reporting live from London for us, thank you.

And with reaction in Russia to this report, let's bring in Matthew Chance from CNN in Moscow.

Matthew, as you just heard from that report from Phil Black, you know, investigators there have drawn this clear line to Russia. How is Moscow

responding?

[08:05:14] MATTHEW CHANCE, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, it's not responding directly at the moment, because the press conference

they just finished, obviously, but they preemptively have issued a report themselves, a press conference by the Russian defense ministry and, of

course, I'll preface this by saying the Russians have categorically denied any suggestion that they are in any way involved with the shoot down of

MH17, either through the transfer of military equipment to the pro-Russian rebels, or through the use of Russian military forces themselves in connection with that shoot down.

And so that's their basic position. But just a few days ago, preempting this joint investigative team report coming out of The

Netherlands, the Russian defense ministry had its own press conference. It said it found new raw radar data, which had shown there were no foreign

objects, it says, around MH17 at the time it was shot down, indicating that it was not a missile that was fired at it from rebel-controlled territory.

If a missile had been fired at it, they said it must have been from Ukrainian territory. Of course, it was the second, at least the second

scenario that the Russians had come up with to try and explain the downing of MH17.

Back in 2014, a few days after the shoot down took place, the Russians had released radar images suggesting that two Ukrainian fighter jets were

in the vicinity, between three and five miles away from MH17 when it was downed. The suggestion the Russian defense ministry made back then it was

Ukrainian fighter jets that were responsible for this shoot down.

That has been ruled out now, not only by the joint investigative team, the air-to-air scenario, as they called it, is not something that has any

credibility in terms of evidence supporting it from radar and from eyewitnesss, And it's also something it seems that the Russians have

dropped, as well, and they prefer now to rely more heavily on this new data they say they've secured, which wasn't known to them they say beforehand,

which shows that it wasn't a buq missile or any kind of missile fired from rebel controlled territory towards MH17 back in July in 2014.

LU STOUT: But this new investigation, this new report is out backed up by a wealth of information. It's a criminal investigation. It could

lead to a criminal trial. Your thoughts on the political fallout here. When suspects are named, could it have some major political fallout here?

CHANCE: It could do if those suspects are of course Russian military service personnel.

I mean, the suggestion all along has been through evidence from social media and though eyewitnesss and from communication intercepts is that JIT

was saying earlier, that -- and that's the evidence they've most depended on. But the suggestion has always been that this missile came from Russia,

the suggestion has been that it was manned by Russian regular soldiers at the very least, and much of the focus has been on a certain armored

division, anti-aircraft division, which is based in Kursk (ph), in central Russia.

There have been lots of social media images of troopers from that anti-aircraft brigade being

deployed to the region around where the aircraft was shot down. And so this is the suggestion that's been carried very heavily on social media. I

expect it's what the joint investigative team is focusing on.

But you are right, they are holding back from naming names at the moment for a couple of reasons. First of all, I think one of the reasons

is they want to give an opportunity to those who may have been involved to come forward and to give their testimony before they proceed with any kind

of indictment. And so, yeah, it's going to be a long-term plan or long- term game that the joint investigative committee team is going to be playing.

And it's not unclear whether it's ever going to reach a satisfactory conclusion. I mean, it could take decades before justice is done, as it

were, when it comes to bringing those responsible for this actually to the courts.

LU STOUT: Which would be just deeply, deeply frustrating for the families involved here. Matthew Chance reporting live for us from Moscow.

Thank you.

Now, tributes to a towering figure in the history of Israel: the country is mourning one of

its founding fathers, Shimon Peres, who died early Wednesday at the age of 93. His death came after he suffered a massive stroke two weeks ago. And

Peres served as prime minister and also as president, held nearly every position in Israel's cabinet.

Now, funeral preparations are now underway. U.S. President Barack Obama, Britain's Prince Charles, the German Chancellor Angela Merkel are

among those who have been invited.

Now, Oren Liebermann has more on the life and legacy of Shimon Peres.

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OREN LIEBERMANN, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: The story of Shimon Peres is the story of modern Israel. One of the longest serving politicians in Israel's history, Peres was there from the very beginning.

During the war of independence he was responsible for buying weapons. He was briefly head of the navy, established the country's aircraft

industry, and during the '50s founded the country's nuclear program.

In government, he held virtually every major cabinet position and was prime minister three times, but never won an election. Many Israelis

considered him aloof, an intellectual who wore a suit, not a uniform.

ETHAN DOR SHAV, SHALEM CENTER: Never got the public love that he was yearning for. He was never hugged by the populous as our leader. He was

hated as much as he was loved.

LIEBERMANN: Most of all he was loved, and hated, for the 1993 Oslo peace process, which saw Yasser Arafat return from exile.

DONE GOLD, JERUSALEM CENTER FOR PUBLIC AFFAIRS: His name was attached to the Oslo peace accords, which were at the center of the polarization of

Israeli society and political life.

LIEBERMANN: It won Peres the Nobel Peace Prize, but a wave of Palestinian suicide bombings and other attacks which followed left him

struggling to defend the peace process.

SHIMON PERES, FRM. PRIME MINSITER OF ISRAEL: I know we're moving on a road full of dangers, but I know also that this is the right road, the best

road, the only road upon which we have to move.

LIEBERMANN: Ultimately, the increase in violence cost him the 1996 election. Israelis turned their backs on Peres in favor of the

Conservative Benjamin Netanyahu.

Peres would often speak in terms of grand visions.

PERES: I do believe that there will be peace in the Middle East.

LIEBERMANN: It earned him derision from some Israelis, but international acclaim.

BILL CLINTON, FRM. PRESIDENT OF HTE UNITED STATES: I'm grateful for him for a

lifetime of thinking big thoughts and dreaming big dreams and figuring out practical ways to achieve them.

LIEBERMANN: And he never stopped striving for peace. He believed in a two-state solution up until the very end.

PERES: You know, I might too young, but too old to pay too much attention to what people say. I would rather see what they do. And maybe

in the conversation some people will say this and that, but the official position and the real desire of the Israeli state of

two states, an Arab State and a Jewish state, and I think that's also the conclusion of the Arabs.

LIEBERMANN: Of all the Palestinians, Saeb Arakat, the chief negotiator, he may have known

Peres the best.

SAEB ARAKAT, PALESTINIAN CHIEF NEGOTIATOR: When I met him 25 years ago, I was a young professor. And I was angry about something. And he

looked at me and he said, Saeb, negotiating in pain and frustration for five years is cheaper than exchanging bullets for five minutes.

LIEBERMANN: After nearly 50 years as a member of the Knesset, Israel's parliament, Peres became the country's president, serving until

his retirement in 2014. But when asked how he wanted to be remembered, he didn't mention a life of civil service.

PERES: I would like that somebody write about me that they saved a life of a single child, this will satisfy me more than anything else.

LIEBERMANN: Perhaps a better answer came a decade earlier.

PERES: I feel like a person that's served this country rightly and properly and that is in my

judgment the highest degree a person can feel.

LIEBERMANN: On this day, there are few Israelis who would disagree.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

LU STOUT: And that was Oren Lieberman reporting on Shimon Peres, a titan in the history of his country.

And this is the scene in eastern China after the arrival of Typhoon Megi. It just slammed into the mainland less than 24 hours after it

barreled through Taiwan.

This destructive storm killed at least four people there and injured more than 500. And here, you can see the powerful winds just tearing down

scaffolding from a high-rise. More than a 1 million people still don't have electricity or access to fresh water and thousands were forced to

evacuated from Taiwan's more mountainous areas.

Now, let's get an update on Typhoon Megi from our meteorologist Chad Myers. And Chad, wow, after causing so much destruction, so much death in

Taiwan, what kind of damage is Megi is causing in mainland China?

CHAD MYERS, CNN METEOROLOGIST: Well, still some winds, still probably 100 kilometers per hour, but the problem is going to be flooding, Kristie.

This is going to be a flooding area that has already seen three separate other typhoons over the year. So this is an area that's already saturated,

the ground very, very saturated, from all of this.

We've had wind speeds of 203 kilometers per hour. If you take that wind and you put it over the ocean, you make big waves -- this is what the

waves are going to look like. They are impressive. You couldn't even see what a person might look like there.

Reports from the person that shot that, probably somewhere in excess of 20 to 30 meters high after hitting the break wall there, so that the

water wouldn't go into kind of a marina area, just kind of a break water. We want those waves to break offshore, not onshore.

But those conditions there were quite extreme. And they are still extreme. And we're still going to see some heavy rainfall.

Look at the rainfall totals here in parts of Taiwan. One meter, one meter of rain. You're talking 40 inches in U.S., so that's a lot of rain

no matter where you are. That's going to run downhill and that's going to cause mudslides and significant runoff and flooding. And it's still going to cause some

flooding. We could still see about another quarter of a meter, maybe 250 millimeters of rain in parts of central China. That will be a problem

there.

Something else we're watching now, Chaba out here near Guam, forecasting it stronger. But for

the most part, forecast to turn away from Taiwan, which has already been battered so much and possibly up towards Okinawa. we'll keep watching that

-- Kristie.

[08:15:44] LU STOUT: Yeah, and Chad, so much happening in the region. Separately, the entire state of south Australia is now without power thanks

to a powerful storm there. What's the latest?

STEVENS: They are saying, the BOM, Bureau of Meteorology, in Australia is saying that this is the strongest storm they've seen since

1964. So over 50 years from where we've seen the lowest pressure. This is not a tropical cyclone, you have to remember that that's Antarctica down

there.

So, this is cold water. This is a late winter storm, a late winter storm, I know it's getting into spring, but a big winter storm that brought

heavy rain, wind, and hail, some of the wind over 100 kilometers per hour, bringing down power lines. And it's not done yet. It's not done because

the backside still has to hit it.

You know how you get a typhoon or a cyclone you get one side, and then you get the eye, then the get the other? Well, the one side has come on by

with wind speeds of 104 kilometers per hour, but now the back side still has to come back around and hit the area again.

So the people that are trying to put power lines back up can't even get up in their bucket trucks because the winds are still blowing so hard.

The rains still coming down so hard. This is a major system for this area, the biggest they've seen in a very long time. Half of a century since

they've seen a storm this large, Kristie.

LU STOUT: Yeah, over a million people affected by the blackout as a result of that storm.

Chad Myers reporting. Thank you, Chad, take care.

Now, do stay with us, coming up right here on News Stream, after their presidential debate, where does that now leave the candidates and who is in

the lead with the election now just six weeks away?

And China's richest man is looking to extend his footprint in Hollywood. We'll tell you which business he's planning to buy next.

And no more fancy meals for South Korean public officials. A new anti-corruption law is

taking aim at the dinner table. We'll explain next.

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LU STOUT: Coming to you live from Hong Kong, you're back watching News Stream.

Now, Hillary Clinton returns to the campaign trail with former rival Bernie Sanders at her side today. And she has picked up a key endorsement.

The largest newspaper in Arizona, The Arizona Republic, is backing her for president. Now, it is the first time it has ever supported a Democrat

for the White House. The editorial board wrote this, quote, "the 2016 Republican candidate Donald Trump is not conservative and he is not

qualified."

CNN's Sara Murray has more on the fallout from Monday's debate and how Trump is striking back at Clinton.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

[08:20:17] DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: You know we're going to get rid of that crooked woman.

SARA MURRAY, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Hillary Clinton may have rattled Donald Trump, but last night, the self-proclaimed counter-puncher

was ready to throw some jabs.

TRUMP: Hillary Clinton, I mean, she's virtually incompetent.

MURRAY: As Clinton is riding high off her solid debate performance.

CLINTON: Did anybody see that debate last night? Oh, yes. One down, two to go.

MURRAY: Trump's claiming he didn't unleash his full arsenal against Clinton in the first debate.

TRUMP: I watched her very carefully. And I was also holding back. I didn't want to do anything to embarrass her.

MURRAY: Clinton continues to hit Trump hard on failing to release his taxes.

CLINTON: They showed he didn't pay any federal income tax. So...

TRUMP: That makes me smart.

CLINTON: Now if not paying taxes makes him smart, what does that make all the rest of us?

MURRAY: And is using Trump's own words against him.

TRUMP: I've been all over the place. You decided to stay home.

CLINTON: At one point he was kind of digging me for spending time off the campaign trail to get prepared, but just trying to keep track of

everything he says took a lot of time and effort.

You know what? I did prepare, and I'll tell you something else I prepared for. I prepared to be president of the United States, and I think

that's good.

MURRAY: As Trump spent much of the day blaming the debate moderator and, once again, complaining about his microphone.

TRUMP (via phone): My microphone was terrible. I think -- I wonder if it was set up that way on purpose.

CLINTON: Anybody that's complaining about the microphone is not having a good night.

MURRAY: And making no apologies for body shaming former Miss Universe Alicia Machado.

TRUMP: She gained a massive amount of weight, and it was -- it was a real problem.

MURRAY: After Clinton pounced on his derogatory comments 20 years ago on the debate stage.

CLINTON: One of the worst things he said was about a woman in a beauty contest. He called this woman "Miss Piggy." Then he called her "Miss

Housekeeping," because she was Latina.

MURRAY: The Venezuelan actress, now a U.S. citizen, is speaking out.

ALICIA MACHADO, FORMER MISS UNIVERSE: No more insults for the women.

I know very well Mr. Trump, and I can see the same person that I met 20 years ago.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

LU STOUT: Now, the U.S. presidential race is being watched closely by people around the world, and one of them Wan Jianlin, the real estate

mogul, is one of China's richest men and he's been on a major shopping spree around Hollywood.

Now, here is his exclusive interview with CNN's Andrew Stevens.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

ANDREW STEVENS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: China's richest man was one of the millions around the world who watched Monday's first presidential debate.

Wang Jianlin has a bigger interest than most: Hollywood is a key part of his global expansion plans. He's already spent $3.5 billion buying

legendary entertainment maker of The Dark Knight and Jurassic World, among other movies, and he confirmed to CNN that he's also

in talks to buy Dick Clark productions, which produces live Hollywood events like the Emmys.

So what does he make of the rising anti-China rhetoric on the campaign trail? How worried is he?

WANG JIANLIN (through translator): I'm not worried. Whoever becomes the next president, their campaign rhetoric isn't the same as their

policies. The interdependence between China and the U.S. is quite high when it comes to trade. They are the world's two largest economies, and

China is the biggest holder of U.S. debts.

If bilateral ties change drastically, it would affect not just China, but the U.S. even more.

STEVENS: But is it damaging relations, business relations now?

JIANLIN (through translator): There may be some impact, but it won't affect our pace of investments in the U.S. Unlike the U.S., it's the

world's biggest market with lots of freedom, innovation, and cultures. I can't find a better country to invest than in the U.S. It doesn't matter

which party takes office, I will continue to invest in the U.S..

STEVENS: Recently, a group of U.S. lawmakers raised concerns about Chinese investment in Hollywood. Their worry is that Chinese companies

could exert some form of censorship on Hollywood movies. What do you say to those lawmakers?

JIANLIN (through translator): I think they are overworried. When Hollywood exports movies to China, they have to consider the taste of

Chinese audience and market demands. They may add more Chinese elements because they come here to make money. Although the number of Hollywood

productions shown here is very limited, they account for more than half of the market. That's why I think it's more like Hollywood influencing China

than the other way around.

[08:25:15] STEVENS: Earlier this year, you were looking to buy 49 percent of Paramount. That deal fell through. Are you still interested in

buying one of the big six studios in Hollywood?

JIANLIN (through translator): First, let me tell you that the story of us trying to buy 49 percent of Paramount is fake. If we want to buy

something, our minimum would be 50 percent. We are still interested in any one of the big six studios. We are waiting for the opportunity. It could

come in a year or two or longer, but we have patience.

STEVENS: You've been very outspoken in your plans to smash Disney in China. You want to make them unprofitable within 20 years. You've

criticized the Chinese themselves for going to Disney. It sounds like it's almost personal against Disney. Is that true?

JIANIN (through translator): No. We are both partners and competitors. When it comes to movies, Disney is our biggest partner and

our market share is the largest here, but when it comes to tourism, we are archrivals. Of course, we want to smash them.

We are launching multiple projects to encircle Disney. I believe because of our cost, speed, and operational efficiency we will certainly

defeat our competitors. So it's not personal, it's where the interest of the company lies.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

LU STOUT: Chinese media tycoon Wang Tianlin there.

And turning from Hollywood to Baliwood, Amitabh Bachchan is one of India's biggest movie

stars. I mean, just look at his Facebook page, he's got 24 million fans, that's more than Leonardo di Caprio.

Now, do join CNN for a Facebook live interview as Bollywood's leading man talks about his new movie Pink. That's coming up in less than an hour

from now.

You're watching News Stream. Still on the program, strictly off the menu: a new bill giving South Korean public officials plenty of food for

thought.

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[08:30:39] LU STOUT: Now, no more fancy food and no more corruption, at least that's what South Korea wants.

Now, the country is cracking down on bribery with a new law that bans people from buying extravagant meals for public officials, but critics say

there are some unintended side effects.

Paula Hancocks reports.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

PAULA HANCOCKS, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: It is an age old way of

clinching the deal, you take a client or a contact out for lunch or dinner, you wine them, you dine them. It is an accepted practice around the world.

Only here in South Korea it is about to change.

There's a new anti-corruption rule, which comes into being on September 28th, and within that

rule they are trying to root out bribery or overzealous hospitality, and what they are doing is they are going to restrict the amount you can spend

on food.

Now, it applies to civil servants, to businessmen, to journalists, even to school teachers.

So once upon a time you wold have come to a nice Korean barbecue restaurant like this, you'd have ordered some meat, thank you, you'd have

ordered a side salad, lots of side dishes, maybe a couple bottles of beer and then you'd have had a nice traditional Korean liquor of soju, maybe, to

ease the conversation. You order this now, though, and you're breaking the law.

As soon as this law passes, you're not allowed this, you're not allowed this, you're only allowed 30,000 Korean yuan, that's less than $27

per person.

So, obviously, many of these restaurants are concerned. You're not allowed all this meat, of course, but they are now concerned what this is

going to mean is they are going to struggle to survive. I have to take this away. There is a small businesses association that's now very

concerned, they say, that they are going to lose around $2.5 billion every year.

Now, no alcohol, I'm afraid. That's simply too expensive for this new law. But what you can have instead is some nice healthy tap water.

As for gifts, that is now restricted to 50,000 Korean yuan, that's just a little under $45. And if you're found guilty of accepting bribes,

you could be jailed for a maximum of three years with a $27,000 fine.

Now, few debate the actual need for more stringent rules in this country. The public has long despaired of what it's seen as a thinly

veiled culture of bribery in business and politics. In fact, in one survey 88 percent of respondents said that they believe corruption among lawmakers

is rife.

But critics are concerned that for those who want to be corrupt, they will still be corrupt, they'll find a way around this law. They worry it's

the small businesses. t's the farmers, the fishermen who will really bear the brunt.

Paula Hancocks, CNN, Seoul.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

LU STOUT: Great explainer there from Paula.

Now, Germany's privacy watch dog says Facebook needs to stop collecting and storing data of

WhatsApp users. It also wants Facebook to delete all the data that it already has from WhatsApp.

Now, WhatsApp announced last month it will share phone numbers and user activity data with

its parent company Facebook, but the Hamburg data protection authority says Facebook did not get approval from WhatsApp's 35 million German users

before collecting their data and that means Facebook was infringing data protection law.

Now, Facebook says it will appeal the order.

Now, WhatsApp has always been privacy focused, and made sure its user messages and files are

encrypted and said it will never store user information. But Facebook is focused on getting information about user lifestyle and social circles, so

when Facebook bought WhatsApp for $19 billion two years ago, its founder Yan Koum, promised that the app would remain independent. He also

reassured users that WhatsApp doesn't have personal information adding, quote, "none of that data has ever been collected and stored by WhatsAapp

and we really have no plans to change that."

But with WhatsApp's recent announcement there is doubt about that promise.

Now, sending humans to Mars, no problem, according to Elon Musk. Coming up right here on News Stream, the SpaceX founder lays out his plan

to colonize the red planet a lot sooner than most think.

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[08:36:30] WILL RIPLEY, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Strand by strand, like strings on a violin, these ropes stand taut with purpose,

ready to prevent disaster. This is Komatsu Seiren, a fabric laboratory in Nomi City, Japan, It's now being called the world's first earthquake

resistant building made with a new material. Using the carbon fiber composite developed in this very lab, renowned Japanese architect Kengo

Kuma has created his vision of the future.

KENGO KUMA, ARCHITECT: What we are trying to achieve is to go to the next step of architectural design, always the architecture design has been

changing. So, now the fibers and softer material is (inaudible) of that kind of new technology.

So, the form is not hard material, form is from the soft material.

RIPLEY: Where Kuma sees this softness is in nature, something he has always brought into his designs.

KUMA: Before industrialization, most of the cities were made by local, natural material. In Japan, we were using wood. We are using rice

papers. And the city itself was very light and warm.

But in the 20th Century, as the people -- the big decision was instead of natural material, as a city should be built by concrete and steel. As a

-- it was a sad solution for the city.

So, now we should go back to the natural material, because the new contemporary technologies can solve maybe of the problem of natural

material.

RIPLEY: And Kuma did just that with the Komatsu Seiren building. Looking like a cloak of fine spiderwebs, Kuma says these carbon fibers are

actually seven times stronger than iron. That's thanks to a traditional Japanese braiding technique.

It's also more lightweight: a 160 meter role weighs just 12 kilos. A role of metal wire of the same strength would be five times heavier.

Strong, lightweight, and flexible, these rods are perfectly designed to absorb the force of seimic motion.

While there may be a striking beauty in its strength, Kuma wants the practical to always be the priority.

KUMA: The beauty as the result of (inaudible) and the beauty should be the results of the strengths of the building.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

LU STOUT: Now, could Mars be the next frontier for mankind? Well, Elon Musk certainly thinks so. And now believes humans can colonize the

Red Planet within the next century. The SpaceX CEO has unveiling plans to build a self sustaining settlement there in as little as 50 years. And he

wants to begin sewing the seeds of that colony soon by sending the first astronauts there in 2024.

Now, the idea of humans living on Mars is one thing. Physically getting them there is another. But Musk says that his plan, while

ambitious, can work.

Now, the SpaceX would carry about 100 people and be paired with a giant reusable rocket boasting dozens of engines.

Once in Orbit, the booster would head back to Earth, land on a SpaceX pad, and then blast off again with the new tanker ready to refuel the ship.

Musk says that the trip would take a little as 80 days. And once passengers finally touched down, they'll be able to grow crops in special

buildings with a compressed atmosphere. And even have what they need to make more fuel to send the rocket back home. And Musk's ultimate goal

here, make the price of all this just $200,000 per person.

But his presentation does leave some questions unanswered, such as, what will the inside of the spacecraft look like for passengers, or how

will this be paid for.

Now, Musk has long been fascinated with reaching Mars, repeatedly saying that he wants to make humans an interplanetary species. In fact,

earlier this year, I spoke with him about his bold plans and vision for humanity.

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ELON MUSK, FOUNDER, SPACEX: I think there are two main motivations for Mars. I mean, one is the sort of defensive reason of saying, OK, if

something were to happen to Earth, is life as we know it, does it end, or if it's on another planet, then it probably doesn't end.

A multiplanet civilization is likely to last a lot longer than a single planet civilization.

The other part of it is, it would just be an incredible adventure, it would very exciting. And even if somebody never planned to go to Mars,

just following the progress I think we're vicariously would be quite inspiring.

LU STOUT: Yeah.

MUSK: And I do think it's important that we have things that inspire us. It can't just be about solving, you know, measurable problems all the

time, because why get up in the morning?

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LU STOUT: You have to stay inspired. Now Musk also told me in that interview that the one

philosophy behind all three of his companies -- SpaceX, Solar City and Tesla Motors, is to minimize

existential threats.

That is News Stream. I'm Kristie Lu Stout. Christina Macfarlane is next with much more on the departure of England manager Sam Allardyce after

just one match. That's on World Sport after this short break.

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