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[08:00:00] KRISTIE LU STOUT, CNN ANCHOR: I'm Kristie Lu Stout in Hong Kong and welcome to News Stream.
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LU STOUT: Anti-nuclear campaigners win the Nobel Peace Prize. Sources tell CNN that President Trump plans to decertify Iran nuclear deal. And
authorities investigate with the man behind the Las Vegas massacre was planning to target other music festivals.
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LU STOUT: The international campaign to abolish new weapons is the unexpected winner of this year's Nobel Peace Prize. It is coalition of
disarmament activists recognized for its treaty on the prohibition of nuclear weapons that was signed by 120 countries at the United Nations
earlier this year.
And it comes as officials tell CNN that President Donald Trump plans to decertify the Iran nuclear deal next week. We have got more on that in
just a couple of minutes.
But first, let's bring up Nic Robertson, CNN's International Diplomatic Editor to just take a closer look at the winner of the Nobel Peace Prize
and, Nic, tell us more about ICAN, what it stands for and why the Nobel Committee awarded them the price.
NIC ROBERTSON, CNN INTERNATIONAL DIPLOMATIC EDITOR: Sure. It's accompanied international kind of -- campaigned to abolish nuclear weapons.
They want to get rid of nuclear weapons across the world because they believe that it is the only way to make the world safe.
And what we heard from the -- from the Nobel Committee was that they adores that view that they said the people the world don't want and don't believe
that they have been protected by countries having a nuclear weapons, and there should be a balance way to reduce and then get rid of them
completely.
So what ICAN did -- this is an NGO and it is supported by 468 different nongovernmental organizations around the world for more than 101 different
countries. They were founded in 2007 of what they been doing is pushing that view that the world needs to get rid of nuclear weapons.
They have been pushing the humanitarian narrative that nuclear weapons when they're used, destroy and kill morally people but the belief
infrastructure, the hospital infrastructure that would be needed after an event like.
So they have been coming at this from a humanitarian background but the key thing that they did and this is what -- this is what the Nobel Committee
really latched onto was helping at the U.N. to get this -- get this treaty on the prohibition on nuclear weapons, get that off the ground.
And that was signed by 122 different countries and that got off the ground in July just this year, so that's really, if you work, there is one thing
that caught the nuclear committee -- the Nobel Committee's attention, that was the big step.
LU STOUT: I want to ask you a question about the issue of deterrence because up to now, we've always relied on mutually assured destruction to
deter nuclear war, is now the time to rethink that and to embrace what ICAN stands for, the abolishment -- complete abolishment of nuclear weapons.
ROBERTSON: Well, that's certainly what the Nobel Committee appeared to be endorsing because that's absolutely what ICAN stands for.
They say that the current system allows for continued proliferation for that undermines disarmament and in an environment where countries like
North Korea are trying to develop these weapons.
That you have countries that have nuclear weapons that haven't signed up to the norm proliferation treaty on nuclear weapons which is something
different, all the longer established, that's -- you know, United States, France, China, Britain have signed up to the P5 of U.N. Security Council if
you will.
That other countries like Pakistan, India and Israel have -- who have believed to have nuclear weapons haven't signed up, too. The that the old
established practice is not the way forward that that according to ICAN, nearly perpetuates the systems and leases to where we are today.
So yes, what they appear to be trying to -- what appear to be saying is that we need a complete reset. We need to get rid of all these weapons
because the current environment only allows for -- only allows for and permits countries to continue to grow. And that if the responsibility has
placed on these leading inclinations to disarm, to reduce and get rid of them completely.
[08:05:00] Then this was stopped, countries like North Korea ever getting to the position they're in and the expectation is that other countries will
follow once. So what they are looking at is a paradigm shift here. It's - - it's a very big fundamentals step, dips that change from we at today.
LU STOUT: Yes, absolutely, the price forcing him as a global rethink about how we perish nuclear weapons. Nic Robertson, always appreciate your
insight and interest right here in Hong Kong. Take care.
Now Olav Njolstad is the Secretary of the Norwegian Nobel Committee, joins me now down the line from Oslo. And sir, thank you so much for joining us
here on the program, here on News Stream.
Can you tell us more your thinking behind giving ICAN again the international campaign to abolish nuclear weapons, this year's Nobel Peace
Prize.
OLAV NJOLSTAD, SECRETARY, NORWEGIAN NOBEL COMMITTEE (via phone): Sure. Well, it a fact that nuclear weapons are the most destructive and
discriminate then inhumane weapons ever created. For it is right to ban landmines, less ammunitions, biological weapons and chemical weapons, it
makes no sense we think not to ban nuclear weapons.
And this is an important part of the argument made by ICAN and now 122 computers of the world, and if more and more states realize that nuclear
weapons have -- the use of nuclear weapons have an acceptable humanitarian consequences, catastrophic consequences.
They will also come to realize that these weapons cannot be used become really not be used and then they will have no deterrent effect either.
LU STOUT: There is the issue of agreeing to the ban and also carrying out the ban, and to carry when a number of key stakeholders and people involved
are not signing on to it, U.S. and Russia for example.
They have the biggest stockpile of nuclear weapons and they have been very critical about the treaty saying that it would do nothing to alleviate the
possibility of nuclear complex. So how do you respond and try to counter that kind of thinking?
NJOLSTAD: The committee -- this Nobel Committee is unrealistic about these things. We certainly realize that what is needed next is to bring the
nuclear state into a process of disbarment, a ban in itself, we mush remove a single nuclear weapon from Europe.
But can make a difference in terms of putting more pressure on the nuclear weapon states to really live up to their commitment in the nonproliferation
to start serious negotiations in good faith for nuclear disbarment.
So far they have not lived up to that commitment and we hope that a ban treat will keep increasing international pressure upon the nuclear states
to start negotiations in good faith, so that we can see a gradual balance step-by-step reduction in nuclear weapons.
LU STOUT: Yes, and then there is the additional issue of North Korea where nuclear weapons is somewhat argue a matter of regime survival there. It is
definitely of intense national pride inside the country. So can any campaign succeed in prohibiting nuclear weapons there?
NJOLSTAD: Not tomorrow. So this is a absolutely challenging process that five ICAN into account, all the evidence provided by ICAN, by the
international Red Cross and so forth.
We believe that all rational people will eventually come to the same conclusion that these weapons are well-known legal value because cannot be
used and therefore they cannot give you any additional protection either. So security problem for North Korea has to dissolve in other ways.
LU STOUT: And your decision again to award ICAN, a Nobel Peace Prize is extremely timely given all of the talk recently about nuclear weapons and
of course those threats traded between the leaders of North Korean and these United States. Does it worry the Nobel Committee how must casually
nuclear weapons are discussed in the public forum these days?
NJOLSTAD: Very much so, from this and if national backdrop for this prize which is over a lot had raised concern for the committee, absolutely.
[08:10:00] LU STOUT: Yes, so how -- given the international backdrop and of being such concern to the committee, how much optimism do you have about
humanity being able to one day eliminate all nuclear weapons?
NJOLSTAD: I was having the fact quite optimistic because we have seen over the years how other weapons which have real cause unacceptable humanitarian
consequences have indeed been banned and eliminated.
Ten years ago, very few people would have believed it is possible to get rid of all the chemical weapons in the world. Last week that Putin on
Russia declared that Russia has now almost completed all its chemical weapons.
So I think we can look at the past and learn from the past, and see that things we have today found almost thinkable will come true, definitely can
come true if people join forces and cooperate.
LU STOUT: And do you fell that by, you know, awarding ICAN the Nobel Peace Prize that you are -- are forcing people to consider the humanitarian
impact and to get that jilt and to consider what would happen to a city -- what will happen to your city, if nuclear weapons were deployed.
NJOLSTAD: There is very much our hope that it will generate new debates in every country about the role of nuclear weapons. We can see that in many
different countries even if the government has not so far been willing to sign up to the ban treaty.
We will see huge majority in the populations in favor of nuclear disarmament, immigration favor of that. So I expect that we will see a
really surge in the -- in the discourse in many countries about nuclear weapons.
LU STOUT: And finally, sir, as you were secretary the Norwegian Nobel Committee, I want to ask a question about the previous Nobel Peace Prize
winner.
Aung San Suu Kyi, the de facto leader of Myanmar has been under a lot of pressure right now given the situation with Rohingya in Myanmar, the
ongoing crisis there. Does the Nobel Committee stand by the award to her or will you consider taking the honor away from her?
NJOLSTAD: We have been asked these questions over and over again during the last weeks and months, and we have given actually several statements on
this matter.
So also official position of the Norwegian Nobel Committee is that we are looking with great concern of course at the situation in Myanmar and we
have called upon all forces, all people with influence to do their best to stop violence, stop discrimination, stop ethnic and other kinds of
harassment and maltreatment.
And so -- and this of course includes also of Aung San Suu Kyi, that being said, the committee still is 100 percent convinced that she was will
subvert the Nobel Peace Prize when was adopted back in 1991.
And finally there is no option for the Noble Committees either immigration piece of science or literature to revoke the prize -- to draw a prize once
awarded.
So that -- that is not really something that we really are discussing because there are -- this is not a possibility given to us by statutes of
the Nobel Foundation.
LU STOUT: Again, no plans no revoke the prize but given the extent of the Rohingya crisis, does it tarnish the prize in your eyes?
NJOLSTAD: Well, it's -- it's of course never positive if the glory, in whatever category and field, do something in the years after being awarded
the prize, and yes, 20 years after do something that people found extremely difficult or impossible to justify, and which is really something that you
feel is in contradiction to the spirit of the Nobel Prize.
LU STOUT: Olav Njolstad, Secretary of the Norwegian Nobel Committee, thank you so much for joining us here on the program and take care.
NJOLSTAD: Thank you.
LU STOUT: You are watching News Stream and as reported earlier of the top of the hour, two senior U.S. officials tell CNN that U.S. President Donald
Trump plans to decertify the Iran nuclear deal next week.
[08:15:00] Now let's bring in Joe Johns from Washington for more on the story. And Joe, we have to define what this means here. President Trump
potent to decertify the Iran nuke deal but what exactly does that mean?
JOE JOHNS, CNN SENIOR WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT: Well, it means that the president publicly declares that in his view that joint comprehensive plan
for dealing with nukes in Iran is not in the interest of the United States that would kick it to Congress to try to figure out what to do next.
Congress would have 60 days to do that. The president has made it very clear that he doesn't think this plan goes far enough and leaves too much
for Iran to be able to do against that back drop of course.
It was last night the president after meeting with his top military officials made some very unusual and even ambiguous statements right before
dinner with those military leaders and their spouses that have set off a great deal of speculation about exactly what the president meant.
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JOHNS: Minutes after a meeting with top military leaders, President Trump raising eyebrows with these cryptic words.
DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: You guys know what this represents? Well, maybe it's the calm before the storm. It could be the
calm before the storm.
JOHNS: When pressed by reporters, the president refused to clarify.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What storm, Mr. President?
TRUMP: We have the world's great military people in this room, I will tell you that.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What storm, Mr. President?
TRUMP: You'll find out.
JOHNS: The White House also declining to elaborate on what storm the president was referring to, but his administration is currently confronting
a range of urgent foreign policy matters including Iran, North Korea, ISIS, and Niger where three U.S. Green Berets were killed this week. Two senior
officials tell CNN that the president is planning to decertify the Iran nuclear deal next week.
TRUMP: They have not lived up to the spirit of their agreement.
JOHNS: Going against the advice of his top national security advisers, including Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and Defense Secretary James
Mattis.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you believe it's in our national security interests that the present time to remain in the JPCOA?
JAMES MATTIS, U.S. DEFENSE SECRETARY: Yes, senator, I do.
JOHNS: The decision would kick the matter to Congress which would then have 60 days to determine a path forward. Early Thursday, the president
publicly admonishing his generals about the time it takes the Pentagon to provide him with military options with this stunning rebuke.
TRUMP: Moving forward, I also expect you to provide me with a broad range of military options when needed at a much faster pace. I know that
government bureaucracy is slow, but I am depending on you to overcome the obstacles of bureaucracy.
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JOHNS: The circumstances surrounding the president's remarks last night make them all the more confusing. Besides being ambiguous, many
journalists who were expecting to go home were suddenly unexpectedly ushered in to hear the president's remarks and then ushered right out
again. So there are some suggestion, they were completely intentional and some suggestion they were of the cuff. Kristie, back to you.
LU STOUT: The life in times of a White House correspondent. Joe Johns thank you so much for your reporting, until next time, take care.
Now investigators are beginning to get a broader picture of the Las Vegas gunman, and coming up, the alarming new clues that have uncovered, did he
target other locations before Sunday's mass shooting?
Also ahead, in U.S.-Russia probe, could this former British spy's dossier be taking on more importance, CNN's exclusive report on the matter, just
ahead.
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LU STOUT: Coming to you live from Hong Kong, welcome back. This is News Stream. Now around 30 conservative British lawmakers are reportedly
pushing for Prime Minister Theresa May to be replaced.
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LU STOUT: Former conservative party co-chair Grant Shapps told the BBC that he knew those colleagues wanted change in leadership. And so the
prime minister's office knew of the discussions. At least 48 lawmakers are needed for a vote of no-confidence. The prime minister has been struggling
to reassure her party ever since she lost the majority in the last election.
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LU STOUT: Now authorities are looking into disturbing new clues about the Las Vegas gunman including a cryptic note found in his hotel room and the
possibility that he was scouting other locations before Sunday's attack. Jean Casarez has the latest.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Where is the guy at the double shot?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He is. He is.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Let's go to a hospital now. He has three in his arm.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Anybody else?
JEAN CASAREZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Civilians racing to save the wounded in this heart-wrenching video, minutes after the attack.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Get in the truck! Get in the truck!
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Get behind the (BLEEP) wall!
CASAREZ: Raymond Page risking his own life to get the injured medical help, loading them into his truck and driving them to safety.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I've got five wounded.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A gunshot wound to the chest here!
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Somebody help, please. Please.
CASAREZ: CNN now learning that the killer recently attempted to buy tracer ammunition at a gun show in the Phoenix area, but was not successful.
The ammo, which is legal and looks like this, would have allowed him to be more accurate when shooting in the dark, but five days after the massacre,
investigators finding few clues to understand why he did this, the New York Times reporting that police did find this note in his hotel room that
contained numbers that are still being analyzed.
Authorities are also look into whether the killer was casing other large events. In August, a person with the killer's name reserved a room at
Chicago's Blackstone Hotel during the Lollapalooza music festival.
But the person never checked in according to the organization with knowledge of hotel records. This after police confirmed that days before
the massacre, the killer rented a room at this downtown Las Vegas condo complex overlooking another, much larger music festival.
And we're learning just how far the killer's gunshots travelled, Vegas International Airport confirming that two rounds struck this 43,000 barrel
jet fuel tank which is roughly 1,100 feet from the concert site and even further from the killer's location on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay
Resort.
Thousands gathering to honor off-duty police officer Charleston Hartfield, an 11-year veteran of the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department. Police
and soldiers accompanying his widow and children as the nation mourns the 58 victims.
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LU STOUT: And that was Jean Casarez reporting. Turning now to the ongoing U.S. investigation into Russian meddling during the 2016 election campaign,
two sources tell CNN the Special Counsel Robert Mueller's team met with the former British spy just months ago.
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[08:25:00] LU STOUT: Now you would recall Christopher Steele's dossier contained pretty explosive claims about Mr. Trump's alleged ties with
Russia. Now the U.S. president and his allies have repeatedly insisted that dossier is a complete work of fiction. Here is CNN Evan Perez in
Washington.
EVAN PEREZ, CNN U.S. JUSTICE CORRESPONDENT: Investigators working with Special Counsel Robert Mueller met this past summer with Christopher
Steele. Steelle as you remember is a former MI6 officer who put together a series of memos detailing alleged Russian efforts to help Donald Trump's
presidential campaign.
The Special Counsel is now working to determine whether any of the series of contacts between Trump campaign associates and suspected Russian
operatives broke U.S. law.
Now, we don't know what information Steele may have provided to Mueller's team, but we do know that Steele has previously provided the FBI with some
information to try to verify some of the sources that he used to put together the dossier.
We're also learning that late last year, top officials at the FBI, the CIA, and the director of National Intelligence, actually discussed including
parts of this Steele dossier in the official intelligence document on Russian meddling.
Sources tell us that the Intelligence Community didn't want to include it because they didn't want to explain what parts of the dossier they had been
able to corroborate.
And they were also concerned about revealing sources and methods that they had used to do so. So, while President Trump has called the dossier a
hoax, it appears that his intelligence agencies have a vastly different view. Even Perez, CNN, Washington.
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LU STOUT: Now the powerful Hollywood producer Harvey Weinstein is apologizing following a report by the New York Times.
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LU STOUT: Details of series sexual harassment allegations against him spanning some three decades, some of the accusers identified including the
Actress Ashley Judd.
According to the Time, she said quote, women had been talking about Harvey amongst ourselves for a long time, and it is simply beyond time to have the
conversation publicly.
Weinstein is the cochairman of Weinstein Company which is behind films like Django Unchained, Silver Linings Playbook, as well as The King's Speech.
He is also the cofounder of Miramax films.
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LU STOUT: Weinstein released a statement after the Time story was published while not admitting to any of the accusations.
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LU STOUT: His statement set in part this quote, I appreciate the way I behave with colleagues in the past that has caused a lot of pain and I
sincerely apologize for it. Now Attorney Lisa Bloom has been working with Weinstein for about a year now.
LISA BLOOM, AMERICAN ATTORNEY: I have very frank and honest conversations with him. And Harvey, your behavior need to improve and he acknowledge
that. What our base has been in the last couple of days has been with the New York Times who gave us who days to respond to an article they've been
reporting on for months and months.
We had witnesses, we had information to discredit some of what they said, and that's not really the point because as Harvey has acknowledged, he has
dealings that he need to slay.
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LU STOUT: Lisa Bloom there. Now, another one of Weinstein's lawyers says that he intends to sue the New York Times saying its stories filled with
false and defamatory restatements, and Times says it stands by its reporting.
Now a hearing has been set for March of next year for Cardinal George Pell who is charged with historic sexual offenses. The senior Vatican official
appeared in court in Melbourne, Australia early on Friday after being charged in June.
The 76-year-old Vatican treasurer has repeatedly denied the allegations. Dozens of witnesses are expected to give evidence in March and Pell is the
most senior Catholic Cardinal ever to face criminal charges.
You're watching News Stream and still ahead, an anti-nuclear group gets the most prestigious Nobel Prize for Peace. We'll to the head of the
organization.
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LU STOUT: I'm Kristie Lu Stout in Hong Kong. You're watching "News Stream" and these are your world headlines.
A Nobel Peace Prize has been awarded to the International Campaign to Abolish Nuclear Weapons. The group was commended for to groundbreaking
effort to achieve a treaty on the prohibition of nuclear weapons. The work comes against a backdrop of heightened tensions between the U.S. and North
Korea.
U.S. officials say President Trump plans to decertify the Iran nuclear deal next week. It would force congress to decide whether to reimpose sanctions
on Tehran. Under the 2015 agreement, Tehran agreed to restrict its nuclear program exchange for the lifting of sanctions.
Powerful Hollywood movie producer Harvey Weinstein is apologizing after New York Times report detailed numerous allegations of sexual harassment. Upon
admitting to any of the accusations, Weinstein issued a statement, saying he realized sometime ago, he needed to be a better person. Those
interactions with his colleagues have changed.
A law enforcement official tells CNN the Las Vegas shooter tried to buy tracer ammunition at a gun show but failed. Tracer rounds burn brightly and
would have made it easier for the gunman to see what he was firing at in the night sky. Fifty-eight people were killed in Sunday's massacre.
The executive director of the international campaign to abolish nuclear weapons couldn't believe it at first. The organization won the Nobel Peace
Prize. She thought it was a frank. Beatrice Fihn joins me via Skype from Geneva. She joins us now. Beatrice, congratulations. It was not a prank.
Your group has indeed won the Nobel Peace Prize. How are you feeling right now? How do you think it could change your work?
BEATRICE FIHN, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, INTERNATIONAL CAMPAIGN TO ABOLISH NUCLEAR WEAPONS: Very, very excited. Very honored. It's been a very
intensive few hours since the announcement was made, but, obviously, this means everything for people that have worked tirelessly against nuclear
weapons (INAUDIBLE) for decades. It is an extremely important acknowledgement of that hard work.
LU STOUT: And thanks to your work. That treaty was reached earlier this year at the U.N. to ban nuclear arms, but now comes the hard part, you
know. How do you plan to move beyond the agreement and bring about the actual destruction of all nuclear weapons?
FIHN: Well, I think this treaty is really supposed to do something very important that we missed. It supposed to stigmatized and remove the
prestige of nuclear weapons. We will not come to disarmament unless we agree as international community that we do not want these weapons, that
they do not provide safety and security.
So I think that this weapon -- this treaty will put nuclear weapons together with other weapons of mass destruction that have been privileged
(ph); biological weapons, chemical weapons. It's a long process, of course. The provision is just a start. We've worked really hard to hold the
treaty's membership and make sure that the norm impacts those states outside the treaty as well.
LU STOUT: And very bolstered which helped the Nobel committee reach the conclusion to award you the Nobel Peace Prize this year, but there are
critics out there who argue that, you know, just even carrying out a ban, you know, treaty is pointless without the participation of key nuclear arm
states like United States and Russia. How do you respond to that and how could you bring them on board?
FIHN: Well, I think that we can't expect that law should be adjusted by those that move the slowest by the worst one (ph) amongst us. Just because
we can't guarantee that there will no human rights violation doesn't mean we shouldn't have human rights law. This treaty sets the norm. And now we
are going to work to bring all the other states up to that norm. We have seen with other (INAUDIBLE) such as on the biological
[08:35:00] and chemical weapons, but also (INAUDIBLE) that despite some of states, some of the main users and producers not being a part of the
negotiations or signing onto the treaty, it still impacts them and it still changes their policies in making this all happen.
LU STOUT: Now, you can get the buy-in of governments like U.S. and Russia is to create a public pressure campaign, right, to generate that public
awareness and also create enough of the stigma so they force their governments to change, is that right?
FIHN: Absolutely. We wanted it to be an easier decision to disarm. I think we saw, for example, with the President Obama speech, that he was extremely
forward looking, but then nuclear weapons were still seen as (INAUDIBLE) so it makes it difficult to act on it. We are trying to help nuclear arms base
(ph) by making nuclear weapons more difficult to maintain and just basically more of a hassle, not so beneficial.
LU STOUT: Yes. And you are trying to create that stigma, right? But how do you create that stigma against nuclear weapons in a place like North Korea,
where having a nuclear arsenal is about some analysts say regime survival and a tremendous national pride?
FIHN: Absolutely. I think that we have allowed nuclear weapons to have -- to be a symbol of security. A symbol of surviving as a state. Where the
idea that indiscriminately slaughter hundreds of thousands of civilians is not something we should want to build security. It is not something that
reasonable congress should have. The first step to addressing North Korea is to also stop behaving in the same way.
LU STOUT: A final question for you. How optimistic are you about being able to reach your goal here, especially given just the level of nuclear threat
that is out there, this very -- you know, just the nuclear barbs that we heard earlier this year between Donald Trump and Kim Jong-un? How
optimistic are you that we would be able to move beyond this and actually when they eliminate all nuclear weapons?
FIHN: It's of course going to be a very long process. It's not going to happen overnight. But we have seen quite drastic change of policies on
other issues. Things that seen unlikely in the past. Some may happen. When people's mindsets change about things, like civil rights, women's right to
vote, slavery, suddenly, progress happens very, very fast. So I think what we are really doing is to create the first steps for making that change of
mindset.
LU STOUT: Beatrice Fihn, to you and your team, congratulations once again for winning the 2017 Nobel Peace Prize. Thank you for joining us here in
the program. Take care.
FIHN: Thank you.
LU STOUT: You're watching "News Stream." Still to come right here on the program, Spain moves to stop Catalonia from declaring independence. We are
going to take a look at the latest that has been done by both sides or Spain's growing crisis.
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LU STOUT: Welcome back. You're watching "News Stream" here at CNN. The U.S. economy lost 33,000 jobs in September, disappointing economists who had
expected it to add 90,000 jobs, but it's worth noting that several weather disasters that hit the U.S. as we know in September including Hurricane
Harvey shut down much of Houston for days.
[08:40:00] We will have much more on the jobs report on CNN Money with Maggie Lake. That's happening in just under 20 minutes from now.
Catalonia's plan to split from Spain just took another hit. Spain's constitutional court suspended the Catalan regional parliament from meeting
on Monday. That would have been its first chance at a formal declaration of independence. It's not known if parliament plans to convene in any way.
Meanwhile, the Catalan president has requested to address parliament on Tuesday. He says it is to report on the political situation. Neither side
looks like it is backing down from this constitutional crisis. Let's get the latest from Erin McLaughlin. She joins us live from Barcelona. Erin,
leaders in the Catalonia region, they were set to declare an independence next week. Is the Spanish government going to succeed in preventing that?
ERIN MCLAUGHLIN, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: I think the question right now, Kristie, is the Spanish court system going to succeed in
preventing that? We saw that ruling earlier in the week in which they suspended the special session of parliament for the Catalan government that
was expected next Monday.
During that session, we expected the results from the referendum to be presented. We also expected a declaration of independence after that
session, but this latest court ruling throwing that sequence of events into doubt really angering Catalan government, officials as well, saying that
the court ruling is a violation of their free speech, saying it's a form of censorship, saying that this is a situation that requires a political
rather than a judicial solution.
So, then of course the question becomes what is the Catalan government going to do next? They have not ruled out the possibility that they will go
ahead with a special session anyway.
We also know that the Catalan president has decided to speak, requested to speak at the parliamentary session on Tuesday about the political
situation, which, of course, opens up the question, could he present the referendum results and parliament on Tuesday? We just don't know. What we
do know is this is adding an entire new layer of uncertainty on top of an already uncertain situation, Kristie.
LU STOUT: Yes, this is all leading to it, it will be no doubt a dramatic showdown. Erin McLaughlin reporting live for us from Barcelona. Thank you
so much.
And that is "News Stream." I'm Kristie Lu Stout. But don't go anywhere, "World Sport" with Christina Macfarlane is next.
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