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KRISTIE LU STOUT, CNN NEWS ANCHO: I'm Kristie Lu Stout in Honk Kong and welcome to News Stream. The date is set, North and South Korea prepare to
meet for historic talks. Russia reacts to it's diplomats expulsions while a former Russian spy and daughter remain in hospital after that nerve agent
attack.
And Malala (ph) returns, the young woman almost killed as child for standing up for growths (ph) and mutation (ph) is back in Pakistan. And we
begin with news from the demilitarized zone. It is now a official, South Korean President Moon Jae-in and North Korean Leader Kim Jong-un will meet
on April the 27th. It will be the first meeting of the countries two leaders in more than a decade.
Delegations have been laying the groundwork in the DNC (ph). Thursday's announcement follows Mr. Kim's unexpected visit to Beijing. In fact, the
Chinese (inaudible) is now in Seoul to brief officials there on what was discussed and that is where we find your senior international correspondent
Ivan Watson who's standing by live from the South Korean capital.
Ivan, we have an official date. The leaders of North and South Korea will soon meet for the first time, what should we expect?
IVAN WATSON, CNN SENIOR INTERNATION CORRESPONDENT: Well we know from the South Korean -- who was at that meeting, making the final arrangements
today. While not quite final arrangements, announcing that April 27th would be the day of the summit that he would like to have denuclearization
be on the agenda.
It's notable that amid the flurry of diplomacy of recent months, we haven't really heard the North Koreans themselves say that denuclearization is an
option. Kim Jong-un was quoted saying that it was a possibility by Chin (ph) Ua (ph), the Chinese State news agency after the so called secret
summit that took place in Beijing at the beginning of this week.
But the North Koreans are not talking about that so far in their state media. But yes, this will be a one day meeting that will take place on
April 27th, it will make history because it will only be the third summit where you had North and South Korean leaders meeting face to face in
history and we haven't had a meeting like this take place in more than 10 years. Kristie.
STOUT: And meanwhile we have a Chinese envoy, they're in Seoul to brief South Korean officials about the meeting that took place earlier this week.
A secret visit that Kim Jong-un made to visit Xi Jinping. Just how involved is Chinese ahead of these inter-Korean talks?
WATSON: Well they've cleared state their diplomatic claim, so to speak, by organizing this very quiet visit of the North Korean leader at the
beginning of this week to Beijing. That's something that neither country revealed until Kim Jong-un was safely back in North Korea.
And by doing that, China established that anybody who's negotiating with North Korea, must include China in the process and also Kim Jong-un
established that he has China, once again, back in his corner when he sits down at the negotiating table with the South Korean president.
And we eventually, we expect sometime in May perhaps with the U.S. President Trump. He has reaffirmed the foundation of the alliance with
China. And the South Koreans were caught off guard by this.
They didn't know that Kim Jong-un was traveling to Beijing earlier this week aboard his armored train. And it's notable that China sent an envoy
today to brief top officials. He'll meet the South Korean president tomorrow. And though they were initially caught off guard, the South
Koreans have since said, hey, we welcome this, this is a positive development. Kristie.
STOUT: And the issue of denuclearization. Can all sides and there are a lot of parties involved in this -- can all sides reach an agreement on what
that really means?
WATSON: Well, I mean, this is the elephant in the room, Kristie. It is that North Korea has nuclear weapons. And every stakeholder here, every
country in the region agrees that the nuclear weapons have to leave the Korean peninsula. That is everybody except North Korea itself which in the
past has said this is nonnegotiable. This is an existential issue for North Korea.
It was worth noting that, again, Chin (ph) Ua (ph) quoted Kim Jong-un saying, hey, denuclearization is possible provided there's cooperation from
the U.S. and South Korea. Also worth noting that those two countries have made some compromises in recent months, postponing joint military exercises
for example over the course of the Winter Olympic, the Paralympics.
But those are due to start in April and they tend to very much irritate the North Koreans. We also know that President Trump himself has dramatically
changed his rhetoric towards Pyongyang. He's no longer talking about fire and fury and insulting North Korea's leader.
Now he's talking about looking forward to a meeting with the North Korean leader. So are we on the precipice of something new, it's not entirely
clear yet. Another very interesting observation is that Kim Jong-un has gone from being pariah just a few months ago to now probably feeling like
the most popular kid in class. He's met with Xi Jinping.
He's going to meet with Moon Jae-in and President Trump and now the Japanese government is reaching out, trying to find a way so that the
Japanese Prime Minister Shinz? Abe can meet with Kim Jong-un. Incredible what a difference a few months makes.
STOUT: Yes, absolutely incredible the transformation that Kim Jong-un has casted himself in the new light. Ivan Watson, reporting live for us from
the South Korean capital. Thank you so much. We'll talk again soon. Now Russia is accusing the British government of breaking international law, by
refusing to provide information about the daughter of the poised Sergei Skripal.
The foreign ministry spokesman spoke a short while ago about the case has sparked that massive diplomatic rowel (ph) between Russia and the U.K. The
U.K. along with more than 20 other countries kicked out Russian diplomats over that nerve agent attack.
British insists the Kremlin is behind the poisoning but Moscow has denied and blasted that accusation. Let's get the very latest on this. Phil
Black joins us now live from Moscow, and Phil, I understand that that Russian foreign minister percipient (ph) is still underway. What's the
latest word coming out of that?
PHIL BLACK, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, Kristie, the spokesperson there in (inaudible) is still speaking, still holding one of her regular press
briefings and still sticking to what has become really the regular script for Russian officials when it comes to the Skripal.
What she's been talking about -- complaining about really is the injustice Russia feels about Britain's accusations that Russia was responsible for
the use of a nerve agent in the English city of Salisbury. She has been complaining the the fact that Britain has not provided any evidence to back
up that claim.
And more than that, that Britain continues to ignore Russia's official formal requests for information, access to Yulia Skripal who is a Russian
(inaudible). Information at a -- at an embassy and consular level so that Russia can support and help one of its citizens. Russia has also gone
further than that in the sense that it's opened its own attempted murder investigation to try and work out who hurt Yulia Skripal.
And just overnight, made a formal request to British police to help with their inquiries. What we're hearing from the foreign ministry today is
that they are still angry and frustrated, they say, about the accusation and the ongoing silence from British officials as Russia tries, it says, to
get information about the condition of its citizen and precisely what has happened to her.
Interestingly, up until only a few moments ago, she had not mentioned what has now become the truly global nature of this disagreement, if you like,
that is the really unprecedented coordinated expulsions of Russians diplomats or suspected spies, according to the host countries, many of
them, from more than 20 countries.
Hasn't commented on that just yet, hasn't commented on how Russia will retaliate, if (ph) they said they will, we still don't know how, we're
still waiting to hear that really. So that's really I think the key question when they get to the question and answer session within this
foreign briefing. I'm sure that they will be asked those points.
But so far, Russia has not given any indication of if and when it will expel foreign diplomats working here in this country. And crucially,
whether or not Russia is prepared to go even further than that, taking action that may go beyond massively matching the expulsions against it.
And so, therefore, risk escalating this crisis perhaps further, Kristie.
STOUT: So no comment yet on this mass diplomatic expulsions, no firm action being taken on that retaliation that promised earlier. They'll
continue to monitor that press event for us. Phil Black reporting live from Moscow. Thank you.
British police are now focusing on the home of Sergei Skripal, after they found evidence, he and his daughter were likely poisoned there. Erin
McLaughlin has the latest.
ERIN MCLAUGHLIN, CNN ANCHOR: Well this is a major development in the investigation which authorities say is one of the most complex
investigations the Metropolitan police has ever conducted.
They now say they've identified what they believe to be the source contamination which left Sergei Skripal and his daughter (Julia) in
hospital. They say they believe that they were contaminated at their home specifically by the front door. That is where they found the highest area
of concentration of that nerve agent that was used to carry out the attack. And there advising the neighborhood that there going to conduct further
searches in the area, that there will a police presence there for some time. Not to be alarmed that the risk to the public at this point is low.
But I can tell you, having been outside that home in the days following the Salisbury attack, neighbors were extremely alarmed. Forensic experts had
been moved in, they cordoned off the home.
They were seeing carrying out boxes of evidence, there was a forensic tent outside. And the neighbors were extremely worried, especially when you
consider the type of nerve agent authorities say they have identified. The novatech(ph) type nerve agent which is extremely deadly. And experts say
can linger for weeks and months which is part of the reason why authorities were working so furiously to identify the source of the contamination. Now
of course key question remain as to how long the nerve agent was on the door, when it was put there and by who. Erin Mclaughlin, CNN London.
STOUT: Nobel peace prize winner Malala Yousafzai has returned to Pakistan nearly 6 years after she was brutally attacked by the Taliban. The 20 year
old activist met with Pakistan's prime minister in the capital of Islamabad early today. A gunman shot Malala in the head in 2012 because she
campaigned for girl's education. She was flown to a hospital in Britain for treatment. Let's bring in CNN producer Sofia Saifi, she joins us now
live from Islamabad with more of this story. Sofia, wow what a day. It's been such an emotional homecoming but why did Malala decide to return home
now?
SOFIA SAIFI: Well Christy, we know that she'd been wanting to come home in every interview that she's given, ever since she was flown to the U.K. We
don't really know the specifics of why she's had a lot of security, there's a lot of secrecy around her visit at the moment. We don't know what her
itinerary is, we know that she gave this really awful emotional speech of the Prime Minister Secretary at this morning. Where she choked up and had
to hold back tears. She spoke about how much she missed home, how every time she was looking out of the window in cars and planes that she looked
out in New York and London, she imaged that she was Islamabad or Karachi. And the fact is that when she flown back, when she was attacked by the
Taliban, they had released a statement saying that if she comes back, if she survives, they will make sure that she does not live again. So there
has been a lot of security around this young woman who went away as a young child, merely 14. And has now come back to her homeland, back to her home
soil. Christy.
MCLAUGHLIN: Malala says that it was her dream to return to Pakistan without any fear and yet is there very heavy security around her?
SAIFI: There is a lot of security. There's a lot of secrecy. We don't really know much about her where abouts but she did go to the Prime
Minister Secretary at(ph). She spoke on state media, there was a lot of jubilation around her arrival. She arrived late last night at Islamabad
airport where local media captured images of her coming out of the waiting area, looking very overjoyed. So yes there is that sense of security. The
prime minister himself, when he spoke this morning, said the -- you know you've come back, this is your home and we're going to provide you with as
much security as possible. We do know that there is some speculation that she's going to be traveling around the country a little bit more. But
because of that security issue, we don't really know exactly when and where. But there's a lot of happiness and joy that she's back in her
country.
MCLAUGHLIN: Yes joyful homecoming, wonderful story. Sofia Saifi reporting live, thank you so much. Take care. You're watching News Stream, still
ahead, another shake up in the Trump administration. The president replaces his veteran's affair secretary with a controversial pick. The
latest from Washington is next. Ahead we are also in Rome as foot prints to(ph) celebrates Holy Thursday amid fresh controversies for the Vatican.
Keep it here.
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STOUT: A view live from Hong Kong, welcome back this is News Stream. Now the revolving door continues to turn at the White House. President Donald
Trump has now ousted his Veterans affair secretary. The last of a whole(ph) omnivorous(ph) cabinet. And now there are a lot of questions
about the qualifications of Mr. Trump's pick to replace him. Abby Phillip has more from Washington.
ABBY PHILLIP, CNN CORRESPONDENT: President Trump firing embattled Veterans affairs secretary David Shulkin. The latest in a series of high profile
departures in the last month. Sources tell CNN that Chief of Staff John Kelly notifying Shulkin of his termination in a phone call. Before the
president made the announcement public on Twitter. His departure was expected after damaging revelations that Shulkin and his wife used tax
payer dollars for a European trip. A trip that at least four administration officials cautioned him not to take. In a new op add,
Shulkin claiming he was falsely accused and blasting the toxic and chaotic and disrespectful environment in Washington from preventing him from doing
his job. In a surprise move president Trump tapping his White House physician, Nave Rear Admiral Ronny Jackson as his nominee to head the VA.
White House officials tell CNN it's because the president was pleased with how Jackson handled questions, praising his health back in January.
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RONNY JACKSON: There's no indication what so ever that he has any cognitive issue. His over health is excellent. I told the president that
if he had a healthier dot(ph) over the last 20 years he might live to be 200 years old, I don't know. I mean he has incredible genes.
(END VIDEO)
PHILLIP: A source tells CNN that Mr. Trump has been floating Jackson's name during recent conversations with advisors but wasn't taken seriously.
This upheaval coming as the White House faces new questions about whether president Trump offered to pardon two top advisors at the center of the
Russia probe in exchange for their silence. The New York Times reports that the president's former lead lawyer John Dowd discussed the idea of Mr.
Trump pardoning fired national security Michael Flynn and former campaign chairmen Paul Manafort with their lawyers last year, if they were to be
criminally charged in the special counsels investigation. The Washington Post reports that these conversations took place last summer before
Manafort was charged with financial crimes and before Flynn cut a deal with Mueller in exchange for pleading guilty to lying to the FBI. The White
House dodging questions about pardons, reading a statement from the White House lawyer Ty Cobb.
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SARAH SANDERS: No pardons are under discussion or under consideration at the White House.
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PHILLIP: Dowd having any discussions related to pardons even after reports surfaced back in July, that Mr. Trump was considering granting pardons to
those under investigation.
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SANDERS: The report does say that the president has even inquired about the ability to pardon himself.
(END VIDEO)
PHILLIP: As recently as December the president leaving open the possibility of pardoning Flynn.
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TRUMP: I don't want to talk about pardons on Michael Flynn yet and we'll see what happens.
(END VIDEO)
STOUT: And that was CNN's Abby Phillip reporting there. Facebook says it'll be cutting data brokers off from a key tool used in targeting ads but
it'll take about 6 months to do it. And the move is part of Facebook's hurried (ph) moves to build up data privacy as it comes under fire for the
way it handles user information. For years the tool is that data brokers sell advertisers more details about their potential customers.
For example, using your location data, companies can show you ads for products in your area. Ecuador is suspending Julian Assange's internet
access once again. The WikiLeaks founder has been holed up in Ecuador in (ph) embassy in London since 2012 to avoid a Swedish arrest warrant for
alleged rape.
Ecuador says Assange's social post puts its relationship with the U.K., E.U. and other countries at risk. It (ph) didn't specify what posts.
Ecuador says that Assange has agreed to stop releasing messages that could interfere in foreign affairs.
WikiLeaks denies there was ever such an agreement. Now in exactly one year, Britain is to leave the European Union. Right now the British prime
minister is on a one day tour across the U.K. carrying this pledge on Brexit, Theresa May says she is determined that the future will be a bright
one, that the U.K. will thrive as a strong and united country that works for everyone no matter whether you voted to leave or remain.
Pope Francis is celebrating Holy Thursday, and earlier he presided over the Holy Chrism Mass at Saint Peters Basilica. The mass is named for the
blessing of holy oils used in sacraments throughout the year.
Later in the day, Pope Francis will visit a prison in Rome, where he will wash the feet of 12 inmates and visit a wing for sexual offenders. For the
latest on the pontiff, our Senior Vatican Analyst John Allen joins me now, live from Rome.
John, thank you for joining us, a touching moment took place this holy week. A boy who survived cancer, he got his wish when he met the pope,
could you tell us more about that moment and how Pope Francis is reaching out ahead of Easter?
JOHN ALLEN, SENIOR VATICAN ANALYST, CNN: Well Kristin Lu, as you know well, Pope Francis is known as the people's pope and he has a special love
for vulnerable, suffering people.
This is a 12 year old young man who has Down syndrome from -- from the United States who also was suffering from Leukemia. And he told people in
his hospital room once that he was watching some Papal event on T.V. and he saw Pope Francis kissing kids.
And he said that his dream was to get a kiss from the pope. So his parents brought him to Rome, they are actually on a trip now both to Rome and to
Lourdes, the famed healing shrine in France, because this young man's Leukemia is in remission and they want to thank god for that.
And in any event, they were in St. Peter's Square, really all they wanted was for the pope to -- to see the -- this young man or to wave at him, but
Pope Francis caught site of him and invited him up onto the pope mobile and not only did he give him a kiss, but they took a couple of swings for this
-- through (ph) the square together.
And, you know, the young man cried and -- and said it just made him feel great, it changed his world. And in miniature (ph), that has been the
story of Francis' papacy, he has -- he has this extraordinary capacity to spot people who need him and to -- to reach out and to be there for them
and -- and that's what we saw.
STOUT: Yes, this micro moment underscores the papacy of Pope Francis, the people's pope who touches the lives of so many Catholics from all around
the world, including in China, and I know that Malaysians are right now strengthening between the Vatican and Beijing.
How is that going to complicate the ordination of bishops in China?
ALLEN: Well we heard today from a bishop in China that this deal that has been reported for -- for some time between China and the Vatican could be
made official as early as Saturday, could be signed on Saturday.
I mean, basically speaking, this deal is the -- the Vatican is going to recognize seven bishops in China who were ordained by the government
without the pope's approval, nevertheless the -- the pope and the Vatican are going to recognize them, and going forward they will have an
arrangement where the Vatican submits a list of acceptable candidates for a bishops job and then it will be the government that actually chooses the
bishop.
Now that is, Kristie Lu, that is an extraordinary concession on the part of the Vatican, because the pope's sovereignty and -- and attendance in making
these decisions is something they have fought to preserve over the centuries.
But it reflects how import the Vatican believes it is to open lines of communication with a country that represents one fifth of humanity, and
also to legalize and regularize the situation of the church there, Kristie Lu.
STOUT: John Allen, live from Rome for us, thank you so much, we'll talk again soon. Now a German artists efforts (ph) to ensure that the horrors
of World War II are not forgotten has been met with resistance from some people in his own country.
But Gunter Demnig is vowing to continue his ever evolving project. Atika Shubert brings us his story.
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ATIKA SHUBERT, SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT, CNN: Artist Gunter Demnig removes a slab of Berlin pavement and carefully inserts three small
brass plaques, engraved with the names of the Yakobson (ph) family.
75 years ago, this is where they lived before they were sent to Auschwitz and murdered.
GUNTER DEMNIG, ARTIST: (Inaudible) remember (ph). Cannot be (inaudible).
SHUBERT: These are stumbling stones, and it's an extraordinary memorial for the more than 6 million killed in the Holocaust. The concept is
simple, a plaque for every person killed. It began more than 20 years ago and it now stretches across 22 countries, 67,000 stones and counting.
The largest memorial of its kind in the world, Demnig shows us how each one has a story to tell.
DEMNIG: If (ph) you want to read the stone inscription, you have to bow your head. You stumble (ph) with your head and with your heart.
SHUBERT: Irene Weingartner's grandmother lived next door the Vaushwitz (ph) family. When the parents did not return home one night, her
grandmother took their eight year old boy to be with his family in detention, not knowing that they would all be sent to Auschwitz and killed.
That, she says, is why she asked Demnig to install the stones here and she invited the local school to attend.
IRENE WEINGARTNER: All my life I knew about it, and so it's always important for me to tell other people. I hope it will help so that things
like this will never happen again.
SHUBERT: Germany has worked to ensure the horrors of World War II are not forgotten. Schools are required to visit Holocaust memorials, but
Germany's culture of remembrance is being challenged by the AFD, or Alternative for Germany, a nationalist far right party that is now the
largest opposition party in parliament.
AFD lawmaker Worlfgang Gideon demanded an end to the stumbling stones. He refused to talk to CNN, but referred to this statement instead. The
stumbling stone initiators impose a culture of remembrance on their fellow human beings, dictating to them how they should remember who and when.
Who gives these obtrusive moralists the right to do so? His demand was rejected by a local official, but it sparked a national debate about how
Germany should remember its World War II history.
Irene Weingartner had some harsh words for the AFD.
WEINGARTNER: Those people who think that they are good Germs (ph) are very bad Germany, and they refuse to remember what has happened -- what has
happened in Germany and by the German people.
SHUBERT: Demnig brushes off the recent debate, he wants the memorial to speak for itself.
DEMNIG: You can imagine that that is the power (ph) what (inaudible) so many people are -- are (ph) listening (ph) and that there is now a place
they can remember. Oh (ph) they're going home and so one time they say (ph) now I can come to Germany again.
SHUBERT: Demnig knows he may never finish his work, but he has set up the Stumbling Stone Foundation to continue his work to remember those lost, one
stone at a time.
Atika Shubert, CNN, Berlin.
STOUT: A beautiful memorial. You're watching NEWS STREAM, and still ahead, Australia's disgraced cricket captain arrives home and apologizes
profusely, plus the country's head coach now says he will resign following the cheating scandal. We have the details next.
And CNN follows Greenpeace on a dangerous mission to save Antarctica. They're climbing on the fishing vessels to try to get their message across,
more on that protest just ahead.
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MUSK: Two main motivations for -- for Mars. I mean, one -- one is the sort of defensive reason of saying, OK, if something were to happen to
Earth, is -- life as we know it, does it end? Or, if it's on another planet, then it probably doesn't end. A multi-planet civilization is
likely to last a lot longer than a single planet civilization.
And, so that's one of them (ph). But the other part of it is, it would just be an incredible adventure.
LU STOUT: Yes.
MUSK: It would be a very exciting -- and even if somebody never planned to go to mars, just following the progress I think would -- vicariously, would
be quite inspiring.
LU STOUT: Yes.
MUSK: And I do think it's important that we have things that inspire us. It can't just be about solving, you know, miserable problems (ph) all the
time, because why get up in the morning? I think it's -- I think it's necessary in order to have a positive view of the future.
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LU STOUT: I'm Kristie Lu Stout in Hong Kong. You're watching News Stream, and these are your world headlines. For the first time in more than a
decade, the leaders of North and South Korea will be meeting face to face. The April 27 summit will be the culmination of weeks of hurried (ph)
diplomacy. As South Korean officials say, denuclearization will be part of the talks.
Families in Venezuela are demanding answers after 68 people died in a prison fire. This (ph) clash with the inmates' relatives, who gathered
outside the holding cells. Some media report it broke out during a riot, and burn fire (ph) was reported when the unrest began.
U.S. Veterans Affairs Secretary David Shulkin is now out of the Trump administration. A White House official says he was no longer effective,
but Shulkin blames a brutal power struggle inside the department. On top to replace him, Dr. Ronny Jackson, currently the physician to the
president.
Darren Lehmann has resigned as head coach of the Australian cricket team following a cheating scandal. After two emotional press conferences by
disgraced captain, Steve Smith, and fielder Cameron Bancroft, Lehmann (ph) said it was time for the national side to have a new coach. He was cleared
of any wrongdoing in the ball tampering scandal on Wednesday. Lehmann will leave his post once the current tour of South Africa ends. Earlier, at a
press conference in Sydney, Steve Smith took responsibility for the incident.
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STEVE SMITH, CAPTAIN, AUSTRALIA NATIONAL CRICKET TEAM: ...my week is (ph) -- has been around, you know, good people make mistakes, and I've made a
big mistake by allowing this to happen. It was a huge error of judgment on my behalf, and I'm deeply sorry.
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STOUT: More on the apology, more on the scandal, and about world sports in about 10 minutes' times.
Now, CNN is down under -- I'm talking way down under -- following Greenpeace activists to Antarctica, one of the world's harshest and most
beautiful regions. But this is no travelogue. Greenpeace member are saying that they want to protect the fragile ecosystem. Arwa Damon reports
on their dramatic and dangerous protest.
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ARWA DAMON, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Every day brings with it even more beauty, and every shore venture is magical in its own unique
way. Zoe Buckley Lennox is one of the activists on board, and she was already determined to protect the Antarctic even before she came.
ZOE BUCKLEY LENNOX, GREENPEACE ACTIVIST: Yes, to see it, it definitely feels more intimate and it feels more personal. We could lose a lot of
this area to climate change, and all of these species, and those sorts of things.
DAMON: Perhaps just as, if not more crucial, the Antarctic's waters and its wildlife, especially krill, which is the keystone species here, play a
vital role removing carbon dioxide from the atmosphere to the depths of the ocean.
Zoe is part of a team that has been tracking the movements of a Ukrainian krill fishing vessel. A lot of the krill fishing happens off the Antarctic
Peninsula, and because this area is also the main feeding grounds for the wildlife, Greenpeace and others have proposed this as an ocean sanctuary.
FRANK HEWETSON GREENPEACE ACTIVIST: Swing round and keep up with them, Marty (ph), probably abreast like this (ph), please.
DAMON: Frank Hewetson is a Greenpeace veteran.
DAMON: The Greenpeace rafts have just placed themselves in between the Ukrainian vessel and the reef, are hoping to be able to block the shipment
(ph) from taking place.
DAMON: There is already a Chinese vessel offloading on the other side. Greenpeace makes radio contact with the Ukrainians.
UNKNOWN MALE: We have no intention of taking control of your vessel. Our protest is peaceful.
DAMON: But the Greenpeace inflatables are no match. The team speeds out again.
Greenpeace believes that protecting the krill now in this vital region may help save the planet later. It's about preserving the balance of an
ecosystem that we are all reliant on for our survival.
The Greenpeace team's new goal is to prevent the Ukrainian vessel from heading back out to the fishing grounds. Zoe jumps on the rope. The
Ukrainian fisherman cut her down, into the Antarctic's freezing waters. The team needs to find a better location, and they aim for the anchor.
HEWETSON: Bridge -- bridge (inaudible) We have Rolli (ph) on the starboard-side anchor flue (ph). We must inform the vessel immediately.
Good man, Rolli (ph), well done!
DAMON: Krill fishing is not illegal, but the Greenpeace team hopes that their disruptive and controversial actions will generate a reaction and
bring international attention to protect these waters and wildlife.
Zoe is now on top of the signature Greenpeace pod. Activists can actually live in it, and this is how Greenpeace occupies its targets in extreme
conditions. But now the Ukrainians are moving, and they're threatening to head out to the fishing grounds full steam.
MALE: You have 10 minutes, after that, I make my speed full and (inaudible).
HEWETSON: The safety of our people is paramount.
DAMON: It's becoming too risky. Frank needs to get the climbers, and, if possible, the pod down.
HEWETSON: I'm telling them to (ph) slow down, and give us a chance to remove our people.
DAMON: The Ukrainian vessel does.
DAMON: Are you good?
BUCKLEY LENNOX: Yes. It felt all right. It felt all right. (ph) Because you can just jump in the water, which I did twice. (ph)
DAMON: You seem to be kind of fearless.
BUCKLEY LENNOX: I think I internalize my fear. I'm like -- the truth is I'm more scared of environmental destruction than I am of a lot of these
things.
DAMON: And in this remote and vital region, the Greenpeace message is we can do something before we reach a crisis point. Arwa Damon, CNN, the
Antarctic.
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LU STOUT: Oh. You're watching News Stream, and keep it here because up next we're going to meet a young innovator who is seizing the power of the
seas and creating clean, renewable energy. Tomorrow's hero is next.
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LU STOUT: Broadcasting live from Hong Kong, welcome back. You're watching News Stream. For the next two weeks, CNN is telling the stories of young
scientists, entrepreneurs and inventors in a new special series. Their inspiring innovations will make a difference in improving our environment,
our health and our communities. Dr. Sanjay Gupta introduces us to one of tomorrow's heroes and knows the importance of renewable energy first hand.
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DR. SANJAY GUPTA, MEDICAL REPORTER, CNN: About two-thirds of the earth's surface is covered by oceans. And every single breaker or roller that you
see heading to shore is a potential source of renewable energy. It's just a matter of harnessing the untapped power of the seas. And tomorrow's
hero, Inna Braverman, has found an eco-friendly way to do just that.
INNA BRAVERMAN, CO-FOUNDER, ECO WAVE POWER: The sea was a big part of my life growing up. Most of our time as children was spent on the beach.
Constantly seeing the power of the power of the breaking wave, I really knew from firsthand the importance of renewable energy. My name is Inna
Braverman, I'm 31 and I'm the co-founder of Eco Wave Power.
I was actually born in Ukraine. Two weeks after I was born, the Chernobyl nuclear reactor exploded, causing the largest in history nuclear disaster.
And I was actually one of the babies that suffered from the explosion. I knew from a very, very young age that I got a second chance in life and I
want to do something good with it. Eco Wave Power developed a unique technology for a generation of clean electricity from ocean and sea waves.
We installed floaters on existent breakwaters and other types of ocean structures. And the floaters are going up and down with the wave movement
and are generating clean electricity from this resource. Thereby, we don't create any new presence on the ocean floor, we just connect it to a manmade
existing structure. Most of the companies, they took all the conversion equipment and put it inside the actual floater.
In our case, we put only the floaters in the water, all the rest of the equipment on land. This enabled a low price and a high reliability. Most
people, they speak about pollution but they don't really feel from firsthand the effects of pollution. I really hope that all these
countries, developing countries and even developed countries will use this type of technology as a means of mitigating the pollution.
Wave energy is a huge resource and it's completely untapped in the world at the moment. I always say that passion is the greatest renewable energy
source. Everything is possible, whatever you want to do. If you really, really believe and if it's really your true passion, you should go with it.
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STOUT: Wow. So inspired by the vision of these young scientists. And that is it for NEWS STREAM. I'm Kristen Lu Stout. But don't go anywhere.
WORLD SPORT with Alex Thomas is next.
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