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Pakistan's Goodwill Gesture To Return Captured Wing Commander to India; North Korea Insists That It Only Asked For A Partial Lifting Of Sanctions During The Summit With The U.S. President; An Australian Court Has Released Video Of Police Confronting The Disgraced Australian Cardinal, George Pell In 2016; Israeli Attorney General Says Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu Will Be Indicted On Criminal Charges Later This Year. Aired: 8-9a ET

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KRISTIE LU STOUT, HOST, "NEWS STREAM": I'm Kristi Lu Stout in Hong Kong and welcome to "News Stream." International attention is focused right now

on the border between India and Pakistan. In a gesture into easing the tension between the nuclear armed neighbors; now, Pakistan is expected to

release a captured Indian pilot any minute now. His plane was shot down over the disputed region of Kashmir on Wednesday in a dog fight between

Indian and Pakistani fighter jets.

We're covering this story from every angle. In a moment, we will hear from Ben Farmer in Islamabad and international diplomatic editor, Nic Robertson,

but first, let's start with Sam Kylie who joins us from New Delhi, and Sam, Pakistan says that this expected pilot release is meant to be this gesture

of peace. How is this being interpreted in India?

SAM KILEY, SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT, CNN: Well, in India, it's all being seen, the events over the last few days, as a heroic victory,

really. But I think above all, it is the tone and policy being struck now by Prime Minister Modi, who is entrenching very strongly a whole new

doctrine for India, which really focuses on preemptive action.

The justification of these airstrikes earlier in the week was that they were - had active intelligence of a threat to India emanating from a

terrorist group inside Pakistani territory and they attacked it. That is the first time that that has happened in any significant form since 1971 in

terms of the ongoing conflict between India and Pakistan, and then today, on a day when one might have been looking for a degree of diplomatic

language, Prime Minister Modi drove that whole point home. This is what he said, Kristie.


NARENDRA MODI, PRIME MINISTER OF INDIA: Today, we are in an era where the news reads, Armed Forces have full freedom to do what they want. Influence

of terrorists and terror then has been curtailed and it is going to be curtailed even more. This is a new India. This is an India that will

return the damages done by terrorists with interest.


KILEY: "Returned with interest." Now, of course, the Prime Minister is speaking in an election year. We may be only a couple of months of that

away from general elections in the world's biggest democracy. So he is going to be expected to be somewhat on the stump over this, but that

notwithstanding in the context of both of these nations being nuclear powers of the potential for escalation to lead to something really

catastrophic, Indira really has ratcheted up the tensions by assigning itself in a sense, obliging itself now to hit back at all and any terrorist

attack that they may trace to Pakistan.

Pakistan, of course, are hotly denying that they have been involved in any kind of support for terrorism operations across the border or indeed across

the line of control in Kashmir, Kristie.

LU STOUT: And Pakistan is saying that it is trying to dial down the tension with this expected release of the Indian pilot. Let's go to Ben

Farmer now, and Ben, Pakistan made this pledge. It announced it yesterday. We have waiting Pakistan to honor its pledge. But why did it make this

decision to release the Indian pilot?

BEN FARMER, JOURNALIST: Well, Prime Minister Imran Khan was very clear. He said that this is a peace gesture to India. He said that Pakistan

doesn't want a war and after we've had a week of really quite serious escalating tensions, when he announced yesterday that he was going to

release this Wing Commander, he said it was a peace gesture.

He wanted to deescalate and he made his offer which he has made before to Mr. Modi to sit down and talk. Now, we expect that handover to be

imminent. We've been waiting for it for some time, but the pilot is at the border. We've seen a convoy of vehicles drive from Lahore to the Wagah

border. He is understood to be at the border and is just waiting to go over.

Now Pakistan feels that it's played a measured and statesman-like respond here. It's trying to de-escalate. A lot will depend on what happens next

and a lot will depend on how India receives this.

LU STOUT: Yes, absolutely, and we have that live camera there at the Indian-Pakistani border waiting for that moment when the Indian pilot walks

across from Pakistan back into India.


LU STOUT: And Nic, while we await that moment for the release of the Indian pilot, we know in Abu Dhabi, there is an event going on there and

Pakistan is boycotting the OIC meeting there and the reason why is because of India, because India is participating.

So what does all this mean, these conflicting gestures, what does this mean for ending the crisis?

NIC ROBERTSON, INTERNATIONAL DIPLOMATIC EDITOR: Yes, the OIC, the Organization of Islamic Cooperation with more than 50 nations involved

there. India was invited. They sent their Foreign Minister indeed. India's Foreign Minister had quite a strong speech this morning, not as

quite as rousing as Narendra Modi there on the stump giving an election rally speech today, but making a very clear message that international

terrorism around the world will not be supported, that India does not blame any particular religion, but it is an international issue and is to be

tackled at a global level.

What we heard from Pakistan's Foreign Minister who was expected to attend this big conference here -- two-day conference in fact -- was that he

wouldn't come because India has sent -- India was invited to attend and it sent its Foreign Minister and he said, "Look, we've got longstanding

disputes with India and this is a measure of our feeling about this that we are not, at the senior level, at least, going to attend."

So I think while returning the Wing Commander back to the Indian Air Force expected in the next few minutes is a gesture that perhaps both sides here

want to step back from the brink of further military escalation here. The diplomacy that underpins behind it is far from gone, and the fact that

India is in an election cycle and the rhetoric that was being heard from Indian leaders, specifically the Prime Minister, is not going to do

anything to lead the political leadership inside Pakistan to believe that compromises and consensus can be found on the big, outstanding, underlying

issues here.

In particular, being Kashmir and the issue of Pakistan's accused support of terrorist training camps inside its territory is something the United

States ascribes to and has doubled down in the past few months, telling Pakistan again, in the context of allowing the Taliban to use Pakistan's

territory as a base resupply, if you will, to prosecute a fight inside Afghanistan against the Afghan government, against U.S. forces.

This is a message that is coming from the United States, so Pakistani does find itself under international pressure here, but the underlying issues, I

don't think we're not close to those being tackled at the moment here, Kristie.

LU STOUT: Yes, so many factors underlying the growing tension between India and Pakistan. We are awaiting that goodwill gesture for the Indian

pilot captured by Pakistan to walk across that border. We have the camera fixed right in that area where we are waiting for that to take place. When

it happens, we will bring it to you live, but a big thank you to our journalists who are joining us on this story. Nic Robertson, Ben Farmer

and Sam Kiley in New Delhi, a bit thank you to all of you.

Now, North Korea insists that it only asked for a partial lifting of sanctions during Kim Jong-un's Summit with the U.S. President. Now, Donald

Trump walked away from the talks in Hanoi on Thursday because he said North Korea wanted full sanctions relief in exchange for only partial


The U.S. Secretary of State backed him up on that and both Democrats and Republicans supported Mr. Trump's decision, but back in Washington, the

President is facing questions about a report in the "New York Times" that said that he overruled objections from the intelligence community to get

his son-in-law and senior adviser, Jared Kushner a top secret security clearance.

President Trump has denied any involvement, but House Democrats, they want an investigation. Now, will dig deeper on that issue with Joe Johns in

just a moment. But first, let's go to Hanoi where Will Ripley is standing by, and Will, North Korea has challenged Donald Trump's account of why

these talks ended to abruptly. So what happened?

WILL RIPLEY, CORRESPONDENT, CNN: Well, there are a lot of extraordinary things that happened here in Hanoi, things that surprised pretty much

everyone. We can start with the late night news conference that the North Koreans called, presumably because they felt grossly misrepresented in the

statements that President Trump made at the podium.

The North Koreans were very specific and said they didn't ask for all sanctions to be lifted in exchange for the dismantlement under the eyes of

international inspectors of their known nuclear reactor at Yongbyon.

Obviously, they have a lot of other sites, some of which they haven't disclosed that the U.S. knows about and wants to be included as part of the

deal, but the North Koreans saw this would be a good first step and they said, maybe the sanctions would have been negotiable in terms of how many

needed to be eased right away.

Now, the U.S. side says that the North Koreans were being completely inflexible, that Kim Jong-un was not willing to budge one bit and President

Trump said he wasn't asking for partial sanctions removal, he was asking for the whole thing in exchange for Yongbyon, which pretty much any analyst

would agree is an unreasonable offer.


RIPLEY: So who do you believe? And then of course, there's the other theory that talks fell apart because President Trump was distracted by

what was happening Washington with Michael Cohen's testimony. He talked about it during this press conference. He thought the timing of this

testimony was unfair.

He said that he watched some of it. He obviously had it on his mind. If he didn't have it on his mind, would he have been able to stay in the

negotiations longer with perhaps more focus about the details and could they have walked away from the Summit in Hanoi with a signed agreement of

some sort as opposed to what ended up happening, which is they walked away with absolutely nothing and by the way, Kristie, you heard stinging

criticism of President Trump from North Korea's Foreign Ministry officials. They said he missed a once in a thousand year opportunity. They said Kim

Jong-un may have lost his will to negotiate.

And yet, in North Korean state media, they painted a very rosy picture and said the Summit was a great success and moved the ball forward. That is

largely in part because Kim Jong-un needs to project a win to his own people because he came here confident that he would have a success and it

was an absolutely shocking and frankly humiliating result when he walked away with no deal.

LU STOUT: Yes, conflicting accounts from multiple corners, but really hard to see how these talks can regain momentum. Will Ripley reporting live

from Hanoi. Thank you.

Now, let's go to Joe Johns standing by at the White House and Joe, with precious little to show after what happened in Hanoi, President Trump has

returned to D.C. and he is already under fire on multiple fronts.

JOE JOHNS, SENIOR WASHINGTON, CORRESPONDENT, CNN: That is certainly true and is with everything else relating to Donald Trump, the takeaway depends

on who you talk to. First, the President's takeaway, he tweeted just a few minutes ago on the Summit in Vietnam saying, it was great to be in Vietnam,

an amazing place. Then he says, "We had very substantive negotiations with Kim Jong-un. We know what they want and they know what they must have.

Relationship very good. Let's see what happens."

Now, the President's critics are pointing to his self-professed expertise at the art of the deal and asking what happened? But many of the

President's supporters here at the white saying it could have been much worse because there was a fear that the President might give away major

concessions in exchange for not getting much in return and that did not happen.

Still, the President did return to Washington, D.C. today facing new questions about an old problem - that security clearance for his son-in-

law, Jared Kushner.


JOHNS (voice-over): President Trump back at the White House, under fire for once again defying the advice of his top intelligence officials. "The

New York Times" reports that the President demanded his son-in- law and top adviser, Jared Kushner, be granted a top-secret security clearance last

year, despite objections of intel officials and even his White House lawyer.

Kushner's clearance had been revoked during a review of procedures and later restored in May. "The Times" reports that then Chief of Staff, John

Kelly wrote an internal memo, saying he was "ordered" to grant Kushner top- secret clearance. Just a month ago, the President insisted that wasn't the case.


HABERMAN: Did you tell General Kelly or anyone else in the White House to overrule security officials? The career veterans?

DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: No. I don't think I have the authority to do that. I'm not sure I do. But I wouldn't -- I wouldn't

do it.


JOHNS (voice over): "The Washington Post" also reports the President's daughter, Ivanka, pressured her father to restore her husband's clearance.

She, too, denied that a few weeks ago.


IVANKA TRUMP, DAUGHTER OF DONALD TRUMP: The President had no involvement pertaining to my clearance or my husband's clearance.


JOHNS (voice over): The White House says it does not comment on security clearances. Kushner's legal team telling CNN, "Mr. Kushner's security

clearance was handled in the regular process with no pressure from anyone."

Two House committees are already investigating the White House security clearance process. House Oversight Committee Chairman, Elijah Cummings now

threatening to subpoena documents regarding Kushner's clearance.


MICHAEL COHEN, FORMER LAWYER FOR DONALD TRUMP: There's not much I can say, other than it was very productive.


JOHNS (voice over): Adding to the president's troubles, three days of explosive testimony from his longtime attorney, Michael Cohen.


COHEN: I will be back on March 6 to finish up. There's more to discuss.


JOHNS (voice over): Cohen alleging in public that the President committed crimes while in office.


COHEN: A copy of a check Mr. Trump wrote from his personal bank account after he became President to reimburse me for the hush-money payments I



JOHNS (voice over): Cohen also alluding to other investigations by Federal prosecutors in New York that could spell more legal trouble for Mr. Trump.


ALEXANDRIA OCASIO-CORTEZ, U.S. REPRESENTATIVE, NEW YORK, DEMOCRAT: Do you think we need to view his financial statements and his tax returns in order

to compare them?

COHEN: Yes, and you'd find it at the Trump Org.


JOHNS (voice over): Cohen even suggesting who Democrats should summon for testimony --


ELIJAH CUMMINGS, CHAIRMAN, HOUSE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE: If there were names that were mentioned, we'll figure out who we want to talk to and we'll

bring them in.



JOHN (voice over): Including Mr. Trump's money man, Allen Weisselberg, the CFO of the Trump family business; and members of the Trump family,

including Ivanka and Don Jr.


JOHNS (on camera): And Michael Cohen, the former lawyer is not the only person in Trump world who is expected to testify for sure on Capitol Hill

this month. Also, Felix Sader, a former associate of Donald Trump who worked on the Moscow project is expected on Capitol Hill before the House

Intelligence Committee on March 14th. So the controversies continue for this administration, Kristie.

LU STOUT: Yes, another day, another way to controversy in Trump world. Joe Johns reporting live. Joe, thank you. Now one more candidate is

throwing his hat into the ring to try to take President Trump's place in the White House. Washington States' Democratic governor Jay Inslee just

announced he is running for President in 2020. Inslee says he will make combatting climate change the central theme of his campaign. Inslee has

been serving in government for three decades. He is planning a news conference at a solar panel installation company in the coming hours.

Inslee joins a crowded field of 12 other Democratic presidential candidates, including six senators. You're watching "News Stream" and

still to come, child slavery thriving right in front of everyone's eyes. The CNN Freedom Project exposes the horrific practice in Ghana's fishing



LU STOUT: We're coming to you live from Hong Kong. Welcome back. This is "News Stream." An Australian court has released video of police

confronting the disgraced Australian Cardinal, George Pell in 2016 over allegations that he sexually abused two choir boys. Pell was convicted in

December of multiple historical child abuse offenses. The cardinal denies all charges and is now appealing.

CNN's Anna Coren joins us now from Melbourne where the secret trial took place, and Anna, this video it dates back to 2016. It has just been

released, what does the footage show?

ANNA COREN, CORRESPONDENT, CNN: Kristie, the video is quite sensational. It's the first time that the public is seeing it, and as you say, this is

of Australian detectives questioning Cardinal Pell in Rome in 2016, asking him about those allegations of sexually abusing two choir boys in the late

90s, shortly after he became Archbishop of Melbourne.

Now, as you are about to see, Cardinal Pell is outraged at these allegations and dismisses them as a product of fantasy. Now, just to give

you a little bit of context, the year before, one of those choir boys went to police and reported the abuse.

He said that Cardinal Pell forced him to perform oral sex on him and that he carried out indecent acts on him and his friend.


COREN: Those boys were just 13 years old at the time. Well, his friend, he died of a drug overdose in 2014 and that is what prompted the surviving

choir boy to go to police.

Now, this video clip, its entirety, it runs for 40 minutes. We are going to play you a short clip, but we should warn you, there is some graphic

language that is used.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You've planted yourself -- this is all what has been alleged, okay, we are going to - instead of saying alleged, write it off as



UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Planted yourself in a spot between these two boys and the doorway in the sacristy room --

PELL: After Sunday mass?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, yes. And in effect prevented them from leaving the room. Now, the boys knew they were in a fair bit of trouble and then

at that time, you had moved your robes to one side and exposed your penis.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So as they say, standing with your back to the door.

PELL: What a load of absolute disgraceful rubbish. Blatantly false. Madness.


COREN: Now, this video, it was used as evidence. Cardinal Pell never took the stand during the trial. Now, as we know, he is appealing his guilty

convictions on three grounds. The most significant being that the verdicts are unreasonable and cannot be supported by the evidence.

Kristie, it's very important to note, however, that 12 Australians found him guilty unanimously on all five charges. I think we need to remember

that, even though Cardinal Pell is entitled to go through the appeal process.

Now, this is his third night behind bars. He is at a remand center, a short walk from where we are, just a few blocks, really, from where we are

here in Melbourne. We understand that he is in solitary confinement, 23 hours a day for his own safety, and that he will be sentenced on the 13th

of March. Kristie, he is expected to receive a lengthy sentence.

LU STOUT: The sentencing coming up very soon. Anna Coren reporting live from Melbourne. Anna, thank you.

The CNN Freedom Project is exposing the ugly reality of modern day slavery in Ghana. Thousands of children bought and sold as property and forced to

work in the fishing industry. Nima Elbagir also witnessed the moment when some children became free again.


NIMA ELBAGIR, SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT, CNN (voice over): Scenes like this, of boys playing chasing dreams of football started, happening

millions of times a day around the world, but for these children, just the chance to play on this dusty rock strewn pitch is a dream realized, a

prayer answered.


EMMANUEL, FORMER CHILD SLAVE (Through a translator): I think my God, who has touched the heart of these people who came to rescue me and now I am

out of slavery.


ELBAGIR (voice over): The Village of Life School in Kete Krachi, Ghana is a shelter for trafficked children. A place for only a tiny handful of the

20,000 believed to be working as child slaves in the fishing industry on the nearby Lake Volta. George Achibra helps run the shelter and school.

He says fishermen on Lake Volta buy children from faraway villages and bring them to work as slaves. Wisdom was once one of those boys.


WISDOM, FORMER CHILD SLAVE (Through a translator): We worked tirelessly and if you go for a small fish to satisfy your hunger, they beat you so

badly you regret ever coming into the world.


ELBAGIR (voice over): In Ghana, the minimum age for workers is 15, but the law is rarely enforced, and the practice of buying children is widespread.

The U.S. State Department reports nearly a third of all the homes here contain a child who has been trafficked.


GEORGE ACHIBRA, RUNS THE VILLAGE OF LIFE SCHOOL IN KETE KRACHI, GHANA, This is one of the boys we rescued a year ago. Junior was living with a

parent and he lost the father. Six-year-old working on the lake.


ELBAGIR (voice over): Achibra says Junior's mother was destitute while trying to care for eight children as a widow. She says she sold Junior as

a last resort, the only boy in the family who could work.



AKUSIA, JUNIOR'S MOTHER (Through a translator): Junior may be angry with me, but it was not my making. It was because of poverty that made me give

him up.


ELBAGIR (voice over): Poverty accounts for the near endless supply of children working on the lake, so Achibra returns day after day looking for

other boys like Junior, finding them with disquieting ease.


ACHIBRA: Look at the ages of these children, and how old are they? He says he doesn't know. He doesn't know the ages of these children.


ELBAGIR (voice over): Achibra learns these boys stay in a nearby village called Manayibu (ph) with a master who has bought them and hasn't fed them

in 24 hours.

The next day, he arrives at the village with a police officer. They meet with the man who calls himself "The Master," and negotiate the peaceful

release of these children.


ACHIBRA: Already, the master of these children panicked yesterday and today, when we came, we came with some police officers. Therefore, it made

him very soft. So after talking for a while, he released them quietly.


ELBAGIR (voice over): These boys will later tell social workers how they were beaten, but as they waved cheerful goodbye to a village that had been

home to so much misery, another man wades into the water offering a child, evidence of the desperate poverty here on Lake Volta or just how easily a

child can change hats, we'll likely never know which. Nima Elbagir, CNN.


LU STOUT: Our children being sold, children being forced to work and it is happening today. Now, the film is called "Troubled Waters," a CNN Freedom

Project exclusive documentary. It airs this weekend, 10:30 p.m. in New York on Saturday, 11:30 in the morning in Hong Kong on Sunday only on CNN.

Now, CNN is partnering with young people around the world for a day of action against modern-day slavery on March 14th. Ahead of "My Freedom

Day," we spoke with actress, Yalitza Aparicio who was nominated for Best Actress at this year's Oscars and we asked her the question, what makes you

feel free?


YALITZA APARICIO, ACTRESS: [Speaking in foreign language].

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She says that she feels free which she can do what she likes.


LU STOUT: But what makes you feel free? Now, share your story with the world using #MyFreedomDay. You're watching "News Stream" and we'll be

right back.



LU STOUT: I'm Kristi Lu Stout in Hong Kong. You're watching "News Stream" and these are your world headlines.

India is awaiting the release of one of its Air Force pilots captured by Pakistan. And this is the scene right now at a border crossing between the

two countries. The pilot was captured on Wednesday after his plane was downed over the disputed region of Kashmir. Pakistan's Prime Minister said

the decision to free him is a gesture for peace.

North Korea's state news agency says Kim Jong-un and Donald Trump have agreed to continue denuclearization talks, that after the U.S. President

walked away from their second Summit empty handed. He said he could not agree to North Korea's demands for complete sanctions relief. North Korea

is contradicting that, the Foreign Ministry says that Pyongyang only asked for partial sanctions relief.

In Israel, the Attorney General says Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu will be indicted on criminal charges later this year. The charges are not

expected until after the general election in April, but the cloud of corruption allegations could hurt Mr. Netanyahu at the polls. CNN's Oren

Liebermann explains what's at stake.


OREN LIEBERMANN, CORRESPONDENT, CNN (voice over): Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is in the political fight of his life, as he seeks a fifth term

in office.

A major blow dealt to him by his Attorney General, Avichai Mandelblit who announced his intent to indict the Israeli leader on charges of bribery and

breach of trust in three separate corruption cases.

Netanyahu fired back immediately, calling the investigations a media driven witch-hunt.


BENJAMIN NETANYAHU, ISRAELI PRIME MINISTER (Through a translator): For years, they're carrying out a political persecution, a witch hunt with one

objective, to topple the right wing government and crown the left wing government. They have a huge amount of continuous pressure, I would say

inhumane pressure on the Attorney General so he would say that he is considering an indictment against me with the hearing even though they know

there is nothing.


LIEBERMANN (voice over): In what is known as Case 1000, Mandelblit said he intends to charge Netanyahu with breach of trust. The case involves

expensive gifts likes cigars and champagne Netanyahu allegedly received from billionaire friends in exchange for tax breaks andd political favors.

In Case 2000, Mandelblit also announced the charge of breach of trust. This case involves alleged negotiations between Netanyahu and a newspaper

owner for more favorable coverage. In Case 4000, arguably the biggest case facing the Prime Minister, Mandelblit said he intends to charge Netanyahu

with bribery and breach of trust.

Investigators say Netanyahu advanced regulatory benefits worth nearly $300 million to his friend, a wealthy businessman; in exchange Netanyahu

received favorable coverage on a news site owned by that businessman.

Netanyahu's main challenger, in the upcoming elections, his former Chief of Staff, Benny Gantz called on him to step down.


BENNY GANTZ, FORMER BENJAMIN NETANYAHU CHIEF OF STAFF (Through a translator): Benjamin Netanyahu, I turn to you this evening, get over

yourself and show national responsibility. Resign from your position.


LIEBERMANN (voice over): Netanyahu still has the support of key right wing parties crucial to his chances of success in the upcoming elections. But

if he loses even a few seats to his rival, it will be a serious blow to Netanyahu's chances of winning another Israeli election.

LIEBERMANN (on camera): New election polls come out in Israel on Friday morning, everyone will be looking at those closely. Not only Netanyahu,

but also all of the parties, crucially, the right wing parties will want to see how the public has reacted to the Attorney General's announcement that

he intends to indict the Prime Minister. That could influence their strategy - that could influence their decisions over the next few weeks

until that election.

Again, if Netanyahu loses even a couple of seats here to his challenger, that could be a major blow to the Prime Minister. Oren Liebermann, CNN,



LU STOUT: You're watching "News Stream" and still to come, have you ever considered the question how long do you want to live? Well, we take a look

at how we can live longer, after the break.



LU STOUT: Live from Hong Kong, welcome back. This is "News Stream." Now, our longevity is influenced by so many factors like where we live and how

we eat. Now, in the next installment of "Live Longer," our very own Dr. Sanjay Gupta speaks to someone who is trying to improve his health, but

spends about as much time on the road as he does at home. Now, I asked Dr. Gupta about the kind of impact it can have on someone's health.

SANJAY GUPTA, CHIEF MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT, CNN: Yes, was really interested in this, I think, in part selfishly because I travel a lot and I wanted to

see how do people sort of manage their health, and what I would say is that for most people, it's really a challenge. I mean, because so much of your

that you normally spend time taking care of yourself is now spent just getting through the process of life, getting from Point A to Point B.

Chris Hay is the person we decided to sort of look into his life. He splits his time between mainland China, Hong Kong, Australia, the United

States and the Dominican Republic, but over the years, he's come up with a strategy to try and help himself stay healthy. This is how he put it to



GUPTA: Between the travel and the meetings and the hours and all that, it's a sacrifice and it can take a toll on health. Do you agree with that?

CHRIS HAY, CEO, HAYCO: Yes, it can be stressful. I think any job can be stressful. It depends how much you make it stressful. Traveling does

create health issues. It's harder to eat the food that you want to eat. It's harder to eat healthily when you're traveling. It's harder to get to

work out.

I choose hotels with swimming pools and good gyms. That's the criteria for the hotel.


GUPTA: So as you can see there, Kristie, it's possible, and I think what struck me about Chris is in some ways when you're on the road, you could

actually be even healthier than you are at home because you develop these patterns, you stay in his case in hotels that have gyms. He doesn't have

some of the same obligations with the family, well, important obligations, but when he is on the road, he can spend that time then actually working

out and taking care of himself.

LU STOUT: Yes, good point. You have to have routine and you have to stick to it when you're on the road. Now, longevity, life span, around the

world, that is fascinating to go break down and this report came out last year protecting life spans to 2040 with some pretty compelling results.

GUPTA: I think earn should look at these results and get an idea of where their country is likely to be in the next 20 years, because I think it's

one of the biggest sort of reflections of how we're doing as a country overall.

If you take a look at the list, Spain, that's the headline, Spain is going to top the list by the year 2040. That's what these predictions are.

Obviously, they're still predictions, things can change over 20 years, but Spain will take the top spot. Japan as you may know, Kristie has had the

top spot for a long time.

The United States is going to fall precipitously. All of the these things that we have been talking about in the United States with regard to

lifestyle, with regard to obesity, with regard to diabetes, they decrease life expectancy and they increase mortality. So more people dying and

dying younger, so these are important trends to look at and the die is not cast by any means, but Spain takes the top spot in 20 years.

LU STOUT: Yes, good to hear that the die is not cast, so how much control do we have over our own life spans?

GUPTA: This is the part I think that is probably the most interesting as a scientist. I think for a long time, the conventional wisdom was, look,

it's 50% nature, it is 50% nurture. Fifty percent is from your genes, and look, if you had a grandfather who smoked every day and drank bourbon, I

can do the same thing and I'll be just fine. As you might guess, that's not accurate. Genes do account for a lot of things. Height for example,

eye color, but there was a fascinating study looking at twins - identical twins, Kristie.

And so you think with the identical twins, they should have very similar longevities, short of having some sort of accident, they should live about

the same length of time, and what they found was that it was actually wildly disparate. There was really no correlation.

So the point is, it's very much in your own hands.

LU STOUT: Yes, we just have to move, have that routine and stick with it. Dr. Sanjay Gupta, thank you so much. Take care.

GUPTA: You've got it. Thank you.


LU STOUT: And be sure to watch "Live Longer" with Dr. Sanjay Gupta, Saturday, 1:30 p.m. in London, 9:30 p.m. here in Hong Kong only on CNN.

The U.S. President's former attorney, Michael Cohen, made many accusations about Donald Trump when he testified in Congress this week. And one in

particular is getting a lot of attention and ridicule on social media.

Here is Jeanie Moos.


JEANNE MOOS, NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT, CNN (voice over): Why would a guy with such a high IQ --


TRUMP: I know I have a better IQ than all of them.

I guarantee you, my IQ is much higher than any of these people.


MOOS (voice over): Lower himself to this.


COHEN: When I say conman, I'm talking about a man who declares himself brilliant.

TRUMP: I know words. I have the best words.

COHEN: But directed me to threaten his high school, his colleges and the college board to never release his grades or S.A.T. scores.


MOOS (voice over): The President's former fixer produced a letter to Fordham University. It warned of substantial fines, penalties and even the

potential loss of government aid. If Trump grades were released, the criminality will lead to jail time.


TRVOR NOAH, COMEDIAN, COMEDY CENTRAL: I swear to God, if you tell anyone I got a G-minus in Math, I will destroy you.


MOOS (voice over): Is making threats any way to treat schools you brag about?


TRUMP: I went to an Ivy League college. Wharton. Wharton. Wharton's School of finance, the number one business school.


MOOS (voice over): Knowing President Trump wanted to hide his academic record made critics salivate. "I kind of want to see Trump's S.A.T.s more

than his taxes." Someone else borrowed the President's own words.


TRUMP: Russia, if you're listening --


MOOS (voice over): "Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find Trump's S.A.T. scores that are missing."

MOOS (on camera): But Donald Trump definitely deserves an "A" in irony or maybe it's hypocrisy.

MOOS (voice over): Earned for badgering Obama to release his academic records.


TRUMP: If Barack Obama opens up and gives his college records --


MOOS (voice over): And passport records, Trump filed to give a check to charity.


TRUMP: For $5 million.


MOOS (voice over): Obama, who graduated With Honors from Harvard Law, didn't bite. Trump continued to boast about attending Wharton.


TRUMP: You've got to be very smart to get into that school. Very smart.


MOOS (voice over): So smart you don't know anyone to know your grades. Jeanne Moos, CNN.


TRUMP: Because I have a very good brain.


MOOS (voice over): New York.


LU STOUT: And that is "News Stream." I am Kristie Lu Stout, but don't go anywhere, "World Sport" with Alex Thomas is next.