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Leo XIV Celebrates First Mass As Pope In Sistine Chapel; Cardinal Prevost Becomes Pope XIV; Israel's Deadly Siege On Gaza In The Past Week; Pentagon Gives Transgender Troops Deadline To Quit Military; Trump Administration Still Pushing Deportation, But not For Everyone; Milwaukee Public Schools Facing Lead Contamination Crisis; Final Jury Selection Delayed In Media Mogul's Trial; ;Aired 12-1p ET
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BIANNA GOLODRYGA, CNN ANCHOR: He's an American. He's a White Sox fan. And he's the brand-new pontiff.
ZAIN ASHER, CNN ANCHOR: Yes. The second hour of "ONE WORLD" starts right now.
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JOHN PREVOST, POPE LEO XIV'S OLDER BROTHER: Not only the pope, but the first American pope, the first pope from Chicago, and my brother.
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ASHER: Wow. What a sentence, "my brother, the pope." Officially, his name is Pope Leo XIV. But his friends and family just call him Bob. What we're
learning about the newly pope on the Catholic Church?
GOLODRYGA: Yes, his biological brother, too, right? Not just spiritual brother.
ASHER: Yes.
GOLODRYGA: Also ahead, America unveils a plan to get aid to Gaza, but the U.N. says that it's not good enough. Why aid organizations are already
projecting the idea?
ASHER: Plus, jury selection in the trial of Sean "Diddy" Combs has been pushed back. We'll explain what happened.
ASHER: Coming to you live from New York, I'm Zain Asher.
GOLODRYGA: And I'm Bianna Golodryga. You're watching the second hour of "ONE WORLD."
We begin this hour with a new era for the Catholic Church and the world. Millions of people are just starting to hear about the newly chosen pope,
Leo XIV. Now, the big question, what kind of pope will he be?
On his first full day as pontiff, Leo celebrated mass in the Vatican's Sistine Chapel for the cardinals of this week's conclave.
ASHER: Yes. And today's homily, the Holy Father calls on the priesthood to show humility, echoing the same sort of approach of his predecessor, Pope
Francis.
The first American Pope is seen as an international leader. He has dual citizenship in the U.S. and also Peru, where he lived and worked for many
years. Latin America is rejoicing at his election.
GOLODRYGA: Yes. Catholic bishops took the quest -- questions from the media in Rome and spoke about what kind of Pope Leo may be.
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TIMOTHY DOLAN, NEW YORK CARDINAL: He's a bridge builder. Well, he won a bill bridges to Donald Trump, I suppose. But he would want to build bridges
with the leader of every nation.
So I don't think, I don't think at all, my brother cardinals would have thought of him as a counterweight to any one person. I don't know if that's
ever been true.
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ASHER: CNN's Maria Santana joins us live now from an area known as Little Lima in Patterson, New Jersey.
Maria, it's really interesting to have, essentially, when you think about it, two Latin American popes back to back. I mean, obviously, Pope Francis
was from Argentina with Italian ancestry. Now you have an American pope who has Peruvian citizenship, and he talked about the fact that his time in
Peru was really a special time in his life.
Just give us a sense of how Peruvians that you're speaking to are reacting to this news.
MARIA SANTANA, CNN EN ESPANOL CORRESPONDENT: Well, hi, Zain. Good afternoon.
As you can imagine, people here are overjoyed and beaming with pride. We are at a Peruvian, a bakery, and market here in what is known as Peru
Square in Patterson, New Jersey. This has the largest population of Peruvians outside of South America.
And walking in here is like walking into a store in Peru. This is where people come to really find a piece of home and eat the foods that they
would eat back home. And people here have been telling me all day that they are very proud that this pope is a citizen of Peru, that he spent a large
part of his career working there, and that one of the first things he did when he was presented to the world was speak in Spanish and greet his --
the Peruvian community and his former diocese in Chiclayo.
And I've been speaking here with Walter Valencia (ph). Walter is one of the managers. Walter, how has the community reacted to the election of Robert
Prevost as Pope Leo XIV?
He says exactly what we've been hearing all day that people are just happy, excited. They're excited that, you know, he is this very international
figure. Yes, he is American, but he has roots in Latin America.
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And they are especially happy with his stance on immigration. His brother told CNN affiliate that Pope Leo the 14th, he thinks that the United States
is headed in the wrong direction when it comes to immigration. He has been critical on social media of President Trump and Vice President JD Vance and
their immigration crackdown.
But most importantly, they think that this is a pope that can unite the church because he -- he knows the diversity of the American church and the
Catholic community, as well as having this vast global experience.
Zain.
ASHER: All right. Maria Santana, just in terms of, you know, just the fact that he's so internationally minded. One of the things that people really
love about this pope is just the fact, you know, that not only is he American, he is also Peruvian. And also he has Creole ancestry.
I mean, what do we think about, and what are people hoping that you're speaking to about the kind of pope that he's going to be?
SANTANA: Yes. They think that he can be a figure that can really unite the Catholic Church, that can advocate for peace, that can advocate for the end
of wars, and who can also speak for migrant communities, communities where people have to flee their homes and find a place like this, a place that
they can call home outside of their own country.
A lot of Latinos are excited that he seems to be progressive, who wants to lead the church in a more progressive direction. And especially when it
comes to things like women being part of the church, having leadership positions in the church.
I was at a mass at St. Patrick's yesterday where the priest, the first thing he told the assistants was that this is a pope who can just unite
everyone, who can be a peacemaker, and who can advocate for the more vulnerable communities. Zain.
ASHER: All right. Maria Santana live for us there. Thank you so much.
GOLODRYGA: Well, Pope Leo hales from a small suburb, just south of Chicago, where he returned last year to visit his brother.
Now, during that visit, then-Cardinal Prevost presided over mass at the local church. CNN-affiliate WLS reporter, Eric Horng, caught up with Pope's
brother and the parishioners, who met him that day.
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PREVOST: Even when it was announced, and I'm sitting there watching him speaking, this isn't real. I'm going to wake up in a minute.
ERIC HORNG, WLS REPORTER: John Prevost of New Lenox says his brother grew up in Dalton, the youngest of three boys, and at one point taught at
Providence High School in New Lenox. His pastoral philosophy molded in part by his time in the south suburbs.
PREVOST: He's going to focus his attention to the impoverished and the people who don't have a voice.
HORNG: It was while visiting his brother in August of last year that then Cardinal Robert Prevost presided over mass at St. Jude Catholic Church in
New Lenox.
ROBERT PREVOST, THEN-CARDINAL: We really need to hear the gospel message and put it in practice.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Shook his hand, had communion from him. Yes.
HORNG: And now he's the pope.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Now, he's the pope. Yes, it's amazing.
HORNG: The many parishioners he met that evening, now celebrating the church's new leader.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He's so warm. He is going to do great things. He really is.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Such a kind, gentle person. I felt like I'd known him forever and just having met him.
HORNG: Now tasked with an awesome responsibility, John Prevost says his brother was conflicted in recent weeks about becoming pope but said he'd be
ready if God called.
J. PREVOST: It's something to be very proud of. It's an honor. But I think there's going to come a lot of responsibility here.
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GOLODRYGA: CNN's Whitney Wild has been speaking to the new pope's older brother, John Prevost. And she joins us now from New Lenox, Illinois.
What more are we learning? We figured out who and what his baseball team is. What's -- what more are we learning about the new pope?
WHITNEY WILD, CNN CORRESPONDENT: There had been a bit of a discrepancy on that. But now, again, John Prevost, setting the record straight, he is a
die-hard Sox fan.
He -- you know, he -- he talked a lot about how much their upbringing was in a lot of ways. Just a very normal American suburban upbringing. I mean,
they'd play football with the neighborhood kids, baseball with the neighborhood kids. He told a few stories about the things that his younger
brother taught him.
So for example, music was an important part of their life. Their mother had a beautiful singing voice. She was an active member of their church choir.
And they had organs in their home.
And it was actually when you got an organ, you would get free six lessons. And so it was then Rob, now Pope Leo, who took the free six lessons. And
then he taught his older brother, John, to play the organ. And John's a fantastic organ player. He played a few notes for us.
What is so striking being here is it really -- it's a really amazing contrast. Pope Leo is now one of the most important people on the planet.
He belongs to 1.4 billion Catholics across the world.
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What that means for a family is really extraordinary. It's something, you know, certainly many people don't think about, but it's something that
they're thinking about now that their younger brother now belongs to the rest of the world.
And so we spoke with John Prevost about that. Here's what he had to say.
Oh, I'm sorry, we don't have that soundbite.
But what I wanted to, you know, what -- what he said, which I thought was so striking, is that he's honored. He feels very blessed. At the same time,
Bianna, it's very sad. His world is not his own. He can't just fly home when he wants to, to visit his brother.
And he said that last year he came and spent four weeks with him. It was such a blessing. And now he wonders how much he'll be able to spend time
with his brother.
And the other -- the other thing, Bianna, is that he left her seminary school at just 14 years old. So he was already gone by the time they went
to high school. And he told us the story about the drive home. And it was very sad because they knew that he, again, he belonged to this higher
calling.
And while his mother didn't show that she was crying, John Prevost said he has no doubt that she was. But at the same time, you know, it's an immense
blessing for their family. And he described it simply as bittersweet, Bianna.
ASHER: I mean, nothing in their family is going to be the same again, at this point when your brother becomes pope.
But one of the things I was just saying to Bianna during the commercial break is when your brother becomes pope, I mean, how does it work in terms
of being able to see your brother? And can you just sort of call him up to catch up? How does -- how does that work? What did the brother say about
that?
WILD: Well, he -- he talks to him every day. So it was actually funny because I said, well, did you talk to him today? And he said, yes. And I
said, well, what did he say? And he said, are the reporters still there? And then John said, yes. And he said, OK, well, bye. And that was it.
And so I, of course, me burst out laughing. So -- but he -- but he is -- he's going to Rome to see his brother.
So basically, what he was saying was, you know, I think it's un -- unlikely that, you know, the pope will be able to just pop into New Lenox as he
pleases. But instead, their family will travel to Rome to see him. And that is happening in short order here.
GOLODRYGA: Well, he may be a little busier.
ASHER: Can you imagine the pope just coming back to the hotel?
GOLODRYGA: Why not? Just sneak in with the White Sox hat on, and no one would notice. Just hide the pope mobile.
All right. Whitney Wild --
ASHER: Nobody will notice. Exactly.
GOLODRYGA: Whitney Wild, thank you so much.
ASHER: All right. Still to come.
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PETE HEGSETH, U.S. SECRETARY OF DEFENSE: This is the president's agenda. This is what the American people voted for. And we're going to continue to
relentlessly pursue it.
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ASHER: The U.S. military issues orders to trans -- transgender service members leave voluntarily or be forced out.
Also ahead.
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BRENDA CASSELLIUS, MILWAUKEE PUBLIC SCHOOLS SUPERINTENDENT: We've got tens of thousands of square feet in just one school. We anticipate this could
cost up to $20 million.
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GOLODRYGA: The lead crisis is not new in the U.S. city of Milwaukee, but this time the city is facing it without federal help. The impact of cuts
and layoffs in health when we return.
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GOLODRYGA: The U.N. is rejecting a U.S.-Israeli plan to funnel humanitarian aid into parts of Gaza, calling it unfeasible.
The U.S. Ambassador to Israel, Mike Huckabee, says the aid mechanism would be administered by a private foundation. And he acknowledges the plan would
initially feed only about 60 percent of the population.
ASHER: But the U.N. and other major aid groups say it would facilitate the forced displacement of Palestinians and increase suffering for children and
families. Israel has blocked entry of all aid into Gaza since March the 2nd.
And while millions of Palestinians are facing extreme hunger, Israel is continuing its deadly attacks on Gaza.
Jeremy Diamond filed this report. And we do want to warn you that there are really disturbing images in this piece that are very difficult to watch.
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JEREMY DIAMOND, CNN JERUSALEM CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Who can be saved and who is beyond saving? In the first seconds after this airstrike, it
seems impossible to tell.
After shouting for an ambulance, these men leave this bloodied boy in the middle of the road and head back to the scene. But his is not the only limp
body being rushed away. In the arms of some and carried on chairs by others critically wounded Palestinians are heaved into ambulances in the
flickering hope that they can be saved.
These motionless bodies are far from anonymous. Dad, dad, this boy cries out over and over again, shock and fear etched into his voice and across
his face.
Israel's target, this restaurant in Gaza city, where customers died at their tables, and where one man now tries to revive another.
The man, journalist Yahia Sobi (ph), won't survive. Hours after his daughter was born, he died wearing the same clothes he held her in.
This strike capped a deadly 24 hours in Gaza, during which Israel killed 97 people and injured over 200 more in strikes on just three locations,
according to the Palestinian Ministry of Health.
With a pink backpack still slung over his shoulders, this boy is one of at least two dozen children killed in those strikes. He was killed when
missiles struck a crowded marketplace blocks away from the restaurant.
The Israeli military said they killed Mohammed Barake (ph), whom they accused of kidnapping an elderly woman on October 7th.
Earlier on Wednesday, an Israeli strike hit a school housing displaced Palestinians in another Gaza City neighborhood, 15 were killed. No comment
from the Israeli military.
A day earlier, another school turned shelter in Central Gaza was the target, not once, but twice, in the span of five hours, according to
witnesses. The Israeli military said it struck a Hamas command center.
In this graveyard of shredded tents, once the school's courtyard, this man describes what he calls a night of horror.
This is what they drop on displaced people in an UNWRA school. Look at these rockets.
Anger here isn't just directed at Israel. Hamas should get out of the school. They are hiding between the people. Get them out, this woman
shouts.
For these girls, grief is the only emotion now pouring out.
My friend Lin (ph) is gone. My friend Yuzra (ph) is gone. My friend Miral (ph) is gone. Like so many girls their age, they had been planning a party
and were discussing what outfit they were going to wear when the airstrikes hit.
I was holding her hand. Her hand left me and she disappeared. I couldn't find her and ran to hide.
Hours later, her body lies among those of other dead children. Like them her final outfit, a white shroud.
Jeremy Diamond, CNN, Jerusalem.
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GOLODRYGA: Welcome back to "ONE WORLD." I'm Bianna Golodryga.
ASHER: And I'm Zain Asher.
Top brass at the Pentagon have set a deadline of June 6th for transgender service members to voluntarily leave the military or be forced out. Here's
Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth.
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HEGSETH: Expressing a false gender identity divergent from an individual's sex cannot satisfy the rigorous standards necessary for military service.
We agree. And so we implemented that policy. It was challenged in court. And of course, we appealed.
And two days ago at the Supreme Court, our policy was upheld. And so we're going to continue to advance that policy here at the Defense Department.
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GOLODRYGA: After the high court's ruling, the Defense Department wasted no time setting a deadline to bring back the military's ban on trans service
members.
CNN's MJ Lee spoke to one service member fighting in court to try to stop the ban.
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MJ LEE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: The executive order says, quote, adoption of a gender identity inconsistent with an individual's sex conflicts with a
soldier's commitment to an honorable, truthful, and disciplined lifestyle even in one's personal life.
NIC TALBOTT, TRANSGENDER U.S. ARMY RESERVIST: The statements like that couldn't be farther from the truth. You know, I look in the mirror every
day now and I go, yes, this is like, this is the most Nic Talbott version we've ever had of nic Talbott.
It's just absolutely ridiculous to insinuate that trans folks and trans service members are, you know, going home and trying to pretend to be
something that we're not.
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GOLODRYGA: Here is CNN National Security correspondent Natasha Bertrand with more.
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NATASHA BERTRAND, CNN NATIONAL SECURITY CORRESPONDENT: Secretary Hegseth sent a memo to senior Pentagon leaders last night announcing that active
duty troops who are no longer eligible to serve in the military due to a diagnosis of gender dysphoria have until June 6th to voluntarily leave the
military before they will be forced to do so.
Now, a senior defense official previously told reporters that there are about 4,000 service members across the active duty, National Guard, and
military reserves with a diagnosis of gender dysphoria, which is defined as the psychological distress that an individual feels when their identity
differs from their gender at birth.
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But not every transgender individual has gender dysphoria, so it's totally unclear at this point how the Pentagon is going to remove any service
members who haven't disclosed that diagnosis.
The memo also says that individuals who leave voluntarily by the deadline could be eligible for separation pay.
Now all of this stems from an executive order that was signed by President Trump in the early days of his administration which said that transgender
service members are incompatible with military service.
But a federal judge previously ruled that the Pentagon's ban could not move forward saying that its language was quote unabashedly demeaning, its
policy stigmatizes transgender persons as inherently unfit and its conclusions bear no relation to fact.
But the Supreme Court issued a divided ruling on Tuesday that said that the Defense Department could enforce its ban and Secretary Hegseth wrote on
social media last night that, quote, trans is out at the DOD.
Natasha Bertrand, CNN, in Washington.
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GOLODRYGA: Our thanks Natasha for that report.
Well, now, we're going to take a closer look at the Trump administration's immigration policies stopping immigration and deporting illegal migrants
has been a top priority by President Trump. The administration has considered both Libya and now Rwanda to take immigrants.
ASHER: Yes. Trump has effectively shut down refugee requests from other countries but is considering allowing white Afrikaners from South Africa
reportedly as soon as next week.
Time now for the exchange. Joining me live now is Raul Reyes, an attorney and columnist in New York City. He's a CNN opinion writer who focuses on
issues affecting the Latino community. So, Raul, always good to see my friend.
Just this idea, I mean the idea that the Trump administration would be considering trying to deport migrants to not just countries that are not
their own but countries that have really terrible human rights records. So for example, Rwanda and of course Libya.
This is something that the U.K. tried to do but it was really difficult for them to get away with it just because of legal hurdles with the
Conservative Party.
But the U.S. just appears to sort of be following in Britain's footsteps here. Just give us your take and your thoughts on this.
RAUL REYES, CNN OPINION WRITER: Well, what we're seeing going on is really a --a very dramatic escalation of the Trump's -- Trump administration's,
you know, his promise mass deportation and immigration enforcement activities.
We've already seen him send people very controversially down to El Salvador's or a group of Venezuelans. Now, you're right, he's exploring
this idea of sending people to other countries around the world.
One key fact is that -- that he is not returning migrants to their country or attempting to return migrants to their country of origin.
So in the example of Libya, the people potentially to be sent there are not from Libya or even the Middle East, North Africa, they are from
Philippines, Cambodia, Vietnam. So we are talking about placing people in a completely foreign environment.
Libya is a place that our State Department warns Americans not to go under any circumstances because of civil unrest, violent kidnappings. And it has
a particularly bad reputation when it comes to its treatments of migrants.
Migrants in Libya have been actually sold into slavery as documented by Amnesty International and also been subject to extreme types of --of
torture and just horrific conditions over there.
GOLODRYGA: So the ethical and at times even legal strategies aside and the humanitarian implications that sending these migrants to some of these
dangerous countries would have. One common thread, whether it's El Salvador, whether it's Libya, whether it's Rwanda, is that this
administration seems open to violating court orders in the sense that they are not following due process in terms of sending these migrants to said
countries.
What do you make of that alone? The fact that this administration seems to be OK or at least willing to see how far they can go legally along the
lines of not providing a right like due process.
REYES: Exactly. Exactly. The Trump administration is absolutely testing the limits, not only of due process and the rights of migrants but at a broader
level of executive authority, because it -- look, the president does have very broad powers on immigration but they are not unlimited. They are
subject to checks by our judicial system and the legal system.
In my view, their strategy particularly with these deportations seems to be to rush them, do them as quickly as possible with as potentially as little
oversight as possible and then deal with the legal fallout or consequences later.
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They seem to be banking on the fact that maybe once people are out of the country, there will be an out of sight, out of mind type of mindset.
But here's the reality. You know, Trump was elected, immigration was his signature issue, but already we see CNN polling showing that 52 percent of
Americans think that he is going too far on these deportations.
We've seen enormous pushback from the judicial community, human rights advocates, the immigrant community, about these types of removals.
And the thing is they -- they do directly contradict our constitution that gives all people, not just citizens, the right to due process, which when
you break it down is as simple as an individual's right to appear in court and have their case heard.
That's -- that's such a basic fundamental right in -- in our democracy. That, in my view, is what at -- what's at -- at stake here, and yet, the
Trump administration is -- seemingly wants to rush that aside.
And the other, for context, I also see a lot of pressure on administration officials, Border Patrol agents, ICE -- ICE employees, because for all this
talk of mass deportations, ICE raids removals, as of now, according to the Department of Homeland Security, Trump is on track to deport fewer people
than President Biden during his final year as president.
So they're not even meeting their own goals. To me, that seems, I sense a kind of politically motivated desperation to try and just deport massive
numbers of people at any cost.
ASHER: Yes. That is an interesting observation. I do want to touch on one last thing before I let you go. And that is this news that the Trump
administration is essentially granting asylum to white South Africans who are claiming they're being discriminated against.
Now, this is coming at a time when Donald Trump literally on his first day in office essentially suspended the U.S. refugee settlement program,
limiting the possibility that minorities around the world who are fleeing conflict, disaster zones, humanitarian issues could actually seek refugee
status in -- in the U.S.
So at the same time, he is now granting asylum to white South Africans. And one thing that I thought was quite interesting is that the 54 Afrikaners
would be met at the airport by high-level officials from the Departments of State and Homeland Security. And, obviously, people are saying that -- that
in and of itself, such a welcome is obviously very unusual.
I mean, he hasn't -- you know, that -- that typically doesn't happen. Just give us your -- your thoughts on that role.
REYES: Right, right, right. This type of move to -- to allow white South Africans into the country and refugee status and to greet them with --with
such, you know, and such an official manner is wholly unprecedented as an observer, not knowing the thought process that went into this -- this
decision by the White House.
It's hard not to see to surmise that this is some -- a response to the influence of Elon Musk, a South Africa native, who is functioning in many
ways as a co-president up to now.
Also, what's interesting to me about this is we have people from all over the world, thousands of people who are trying to access the United States
through asylum or the suspended refugee program.
There are not actually large numbers of South Africans seeking to emigrate here. I mean, he -- a few dozen are slated for entry. But in the global
context, it's extremely unusual that he would single out this subgroup of a population of people in South Africa who are not exactly dying to get here.
It's very, very unusual.
ASHER: All right. Raul Reyes, live for us there. Thank you so much.
REYES: Thank you.
GOLODRYGA: New York's Attorney General says the Trump administration has taken a, quote, wrecking ball to the Department of Health and Human
Services.
More than a dozen Democratic Attorney's Generals have filed a lawsuit calling the agencies restructuring a danger to the American public.
ASHER: Yes. Case in point, a crisis in the state of Wisconsin, several public schools, buildings, they were forced to actually close after lead
was found in old paint. The CDC, which could have helped, is dealing with a massive wave of layoffs.
CNN's chief medical correspondent, Dr. Sanjay Gupta, reports.
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DR. SANJAY GUPTA, CNN CHIEF MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: Any building built before 1978 in America probably has lead-based paint in it, which could
poison kids.
Our story starts here, Milwaukee. In January, a kid was found to have four times the amount of lead in their blood as expected. So they started to
investigate. And they did not find any lead in the child's home. And that brought investigators here, where, for the first time, they were able to
link lead poisoning in children to the city's aging schools.
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Specifically, they found evidence of lead-containing paint in the elementary school bathroom. Since then, at least three more children have
tested positive for elevated blood lead levels, and eight schools have also been found to have unsafe lead levels as well.
In fact, here at Westside Academy, these kids had to be relocated to another school just this week. They found evidence of red flaking paint on
the outside and lots of problems on the inside, paint that was flaking on doors and walls and windowsills.
City's now got a big job on their hands. They have to inspect around 100 buildings. The health commissioner has invited us to come take a look at
the lab, where they're analyzing a lot of the samples that have been taken from schools.
MICHAEL TOTORAITIS, MILWAUKEE COMMISSIONER OF HEALTH: They will be diluted and then actually tested within this machine. We look at that concentration
and decide, OK, can school reopen safely? Or does it need more time to be closed?
GUPTA: These shavings of paint, they're sweet. They taste sweet. Is that why kids eat them?
TOTORAITIS: Yes. So, they actually have a sweetness to them. So that's why we are generally concerned about children under the age of 6 who are
crawling around on the ground and constantly putting things in their mouth.
GUPTA: What is the lead actually doing in the body?
TOTORAITIS: It gets absorbed into the bloodstream and can cause long-term cognitive delays and behavioral issues.
GUPTA: Do you guys have enough resources to accomplish what you need to do?
TOTORAITIS: We have enough of a team right now. I think the long-term investigation into the potential chronic exposures of students at the
districts is a part that we were really looking to the CDC to help us with. And, unfortunately, HHS had laid off that entire team for childhood lead
exposure.
These are the -- the best and brightest minds in these areas around lead poisoning, and now they're gone.
GUPTA: So, for now, the city is trying to do the best that they can. In fact, they've set up a testing clinic here at this high school to screen up
to 300 children today.
Basically, the kid comes in. They sit down. There's a little lancet here that they do a finger prick test on. The -- it goes into this machine over
here, and they will get a result back right away, basically then telling the parents, look, your kid's lead level may be too high.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Again, I implore you all to shift to prevention, not reaction.
GUPTA (voice-over): While we are at the screening, a parent-led group gathered nearby, making some demands about lead remediation.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: My grandchildren have the right to go to school without the threat of exposure to lead.
GUPTA: Now, you should know that one of the most cost-effective and straightforward ways to control exposure from old paint is to paint over
it. But schools in the school district fell behind, and now the superintendent is under a lot of pressure to get this done.
This is particularly concerning if it's down low like this.
CASSELLIUS: That's right, because it's where kids handle their materials. And if you're pulling things out, you could certainly just chip. So we
remediated these surfaces. And then now we have to go back and paint it. But it's a constant cleaning, a constant upkeep, a constant painting.
Painting a room can cost $800.
We've got tens of thousands of square feet in just one school. We anticipate this could cost up to $20 million.
GUPTA: Do you have the money?
CASSELLIUS: Well, we -- we do in our reserve. So, right now, I'm just saying, I need to just spend every dollar. We are working with urgency. And
we are not sparing any expense because one student with lead is too many.
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GOLODRYGA: Well, the final steps of jury selection in the criminal trial of music mogul Sean "Diddy" Combs have been delayed until Monday morning.
ASHER: Yes. Combs faces five federal charges including sex trafficking, racketeering -- and racketeering conspiracy. He has pleaded not guilty and
could face life in prison if he's convicted.
GOLODRYGA: Let's bring in CNN's Kara Scannell live from New York with the latest. You know, we've been focusing on jury selection, how critical all
of this has been. What can we expect Monday morning, Kara?
KARA SCANNELL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: So the jury was supposed to be selected this morning, but then there were a couple of developments that happened
overnight that led the judge to say he wanted to move it until Monday. There was a pool of 45 qualified jurors, and overnight, they learned from
one juror that as it was described in court, she didn't feel like it would be in her best interest to be on the jury.
We don't know the details of that, but nobody objected to her being excused. So the judge excused her. An issue was raised about another
potential juror having not disclosed a lawsuit he had against the city. There were some questions about litigation. The judge saying that since
they found this out, it showed that the juror lacked some candor, so they were cutting him from the pool, bringing the pool down to 43.
Now, the judge was concerned that other jurors, potential jurors, could get cold feet over the weekend, which could lead them to having to cut into
some of the alternates just at the start of the case.
So he proposed moving it to Monday. The prosecution objected. They said they strongly opposed it. They were afraid it would cause an avalanche
effect of other potential jurors saying that they too couldn't serve because this trial is expected to go eight weeks. It's pretty lengthy.
But the judge said, that is what they were going to do. Everyone we back in earlier on Monday morning to finalize the jury, do their strikes. The
prosecution gets six. The Combs' team gets 10 and then swear in the jury and move directly to opening statements.
The prosecution goes first, then the defense. And the prosecutors say that they have two quick witnesses that they're going to call before they call
Cassie Ventura. She is going to be the government's star witness in this case.
She is the person who filed a lawsuit against Combs, which he quickly settled, and that is what kicked off this federal investigation. The
allegations, of course, that Combs had coerced his former girlfriend into having sex with male prostitutes, among other things. And so she is going
to be the key person that will lay out exactly the -- the -- kind of the backbone of the government's case here. So she's expected to be on the
stand for the entire week.
And as one thing the government made clear of why they didn't want any further delays is because they said the clock is working against them
because Cassie Ventura is pregnant. And so they want to get her testimony in because she is due before this trial is over.
So, certainly setting this up to be a big week next week with opening statements and then kind of the key witness in this case going before the
jury.
Guys?
ASHER: Yes. Cassie Ventura pregnant with her third child with her husband, Alex Fine. She talked about the fact that she will be recovering from what
Diddy did to her pretty much for the rest of her life.
Kara Scannell live for us there in New York. Thank you so much.
All right. Still to come, an all-American pope, pride and patriotism on full display for Americans celebrating the news. We'll have more on that
reaction around the world.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He's from America. He's the first American pontiff in history.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes.
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GOLODRYGA: Yes, indeed. The sense of jubilation and pride clear as Pope Leo XIV became the first ever U.S.-born pontiff. And from Rome to Rio,
celebrations across the planet. You were looking at the Statue of Christ, the Redeemer in Brazil, lit up with an image of the new pope.
ASHER: While everyone in London worshippers have been admiring a display commemorating Pope Leo at London's Westminster Cathedral. It's been around
24 hours since the Vatican's historic announcement. And who could forget that magic moment? David Culver was actually there for the reaction.
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DAVID CULVER, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: What do you say, you know, in this moment you're emotional?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We're so much (INAUDIBLE) because we weren't expect that we're here at this moment and we are kind of here.
CULVER: You were just passing through?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We were feeling it. We were feeling it.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We feel that --
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We knew it.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: -- to come here.
CULVER: And you can still see the smoke.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes. White smoke finally.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yeah. My grand mama is calling me up.
CULVER: Oh, go ahead.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I was completely overwhelmed. I just started crying. I think I'm about to again.
We have a new father and we'll, in a few moments, be introduced to him.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (INAUDIBLE) pope in Italy. Like that doesn't -- that's never happened.
CULVER: I don't think I have seen so many smiles in one place and tears at the same time.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, yes, yes. That's -- I mean, we're gonna have a spiritual father again, you know, as -- as Catholics and also kind of for
the whole world.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Being able to witness this live is the best birthday present ever.
CULVER: It is your birthday, right?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Today is my 25th birthday. Yes.
CULVER: Happy birthday.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Thank you. Thank you.
CULVER: You've got a Pope.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And now we have an American pope.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Something that we'll remember for the rest of our lives.
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GOLODRYGA: What an amazing experience.
ASHER: Magical.
GOLODRYGA: Well, Father Enzo Del Brocco is the president-elect of Catholic Theological Union of Chicago, where Pope Leo is an alumni. Thank you so
much for joining us.
And I do have to ask, I mean, he wasn't really on anyone's short list. And there was an unwritten policy that we've been reporting on all these weeks
that an American just wouldn't be named pope because of America's dominance in the world, not seemingly want to interfere with the spiritual leadership
from the Vatican.
That all said, no doubt he is very, very qualified, but does it surprise you that, given the break from the norm, that it was a rather short
opportunity, short two days for all these cardinals to conclude that he was the one.
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ENZO DEL BROCCO, PRESIDENT-ELECT OF CATHOLIC THEOLOGICAL UNION OF CHICAGO: Absolutely. Most -- most of the people were thinking that probably will
take a longer time because of, you know, new cardinals, 133, not knowing one another.
But I think that the reason why he was elected and kind of like was a surprise is because they didn't look so much of the fact that he was an
American or not. I mean, they -- they -- the -- before the -- the conclave, they had days of meeting.
Let's not forget it, but also that many cardinals have participated also in the two synods, the, you know, previous to -- to the death of Pope Francis.
And so there was a knowledge of him, and not so much simply of being a bishop, an American bishop, but of being someone who was a missionary. He
would spend this time aligning himself with the ordinary people with the poor in Peru, and also with the service to the church and senior roles,
even at the Vatican.
And I think they -- they saw in hums in him, someone really special. Cardinal Tobin just mentioned today that, you know, one thing that he
noticed that when his name was being pronounced, you know, calling the ballots, he -- he, at a certain point, he buried his head, you know, in his
hands.
And I think that speaks a lot about this man. It doesn't matter really if he's American or not. We -- I think we really found a man of God who -- who
accepted this -- as he said during his homily, this cross and blessing at the same time.
And the -- and the fact that he's calling us to holiness, and the way he has shepherd the church in Peru, I think that he will continue to shepherd
also us now with -- with love. And as he said too, becoming small, becoming small to make space to God. And I think that's really what affected and
struck the other cardinals. And they saw on him -- in him someone who is being called from by God to lead us now in these next years, whatever is
going to expect us.
ASHER: You know, one of the things that I think is really interesting about Pope Francis is that, you know, the whole world looked to him as this man
who was incredibly humble, who really welcomed people from all walks of life into the Catholic church.
But within the Vatican, he did ruffle a lot of feathers. And it seems as though that to Pope Leo is somebody who is going to really try to unite the
sort of liberal and the sort of conservative parts of the Catholic church.
Just talk to us about what is it about his history, his leadership style, his past, his experiences that tell you that he's going to be able to do
that successfully.
DEL BROCCO: Well, he's been superior general of the Augustinian order all over the world. So that certainly counts a lot. He had an experience of
already being, for example, in -- in contact, in dialogue and leading a presence that is all over the world. So different cultures, different
approaches to life, different theologies.
So I think that he already handled that. And let's not forget that he was also head of the -- the castor for bishops. Again, something that is in
contact with what's going on in the whole world.
And one thing that struck me and that actually is in continuity with -- with -- with Pope Francis process and I would say legacy is one thing that
he said from the balcony that we're looking for a single (ph) church. And the single church is -- is where we come all together. And it's not just,
you know, discussing issues. The single church that he really embraces is the single church that was really dreamed and designed by Pope Francis,
which is to come together to listen to one another and discern together to make the right decisions according to God's will for the -- for the human -
- for the human being and for the common good.
GOLODRYGA: I'm so curious to see, you know, even his first steps as pope, where is he going to live? Is he going to follow Pope Francis' footsteps
and live in a small hostel or in the Vatican palace?
ASHER: I would live in the papal palace for sure. That's why I'm not pope.
DEL BROCCO: Yeah. Well, that's not (INAUDIBLE) so.
GOLODRYGA: So we'll see. Father Enzo Del Brocco, thank you so much.
DEL BROCCO: Thank you so much. Thank you.
ASHER: And from jubilation to jokes, there were laughs of plenty as late night comics digestive news of the first ever U.S.-born Pope.
GOLODRYGA: Yes. Stephen Colbert poked fun at the pope Chicago origins and even likened him to a Hollywood A-lister. Take a listen.
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STEPHEN COLBERT, AMERICAN COMEDIAN: Where there's smoke, there's pontiff. The new pope is former Cardinal Robert Francis Prevost who is the first
American Pope. Pope S.A. Pope S.A. Pope S.A.
The new pontiff chose the name Pope Leo XIV in honor of St. Leonardo of Caprio, who famously decreed --
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm pope of the world.
COLBERT: Yes. From now on, the pope's going to sound like this, hey there, it's your buddy Leo. The deep dish papa. Just talk to God, and not even he
can help the White Sox. Sorry.
First order of business, I will be canonizing Michael Jordan. Now let's end by saying, daa prayers.
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GOLODRYGA: I do have to say --
ASHER: Daa prayers.
GOLODRYGA: -- it's still unusual. It's going to take some time to become comfortable with the Pope with an American English accent, right?
ASHER: Totally.
GOLODRYGA: All right. Well, that does it for this very busy week of "ONE WORLD." I'm Bianna Golodryga.
ASHER: I'm Zain Asher. Thank you so much for watching. "AMANPOUR" is up next. You're watching CNN.
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