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Benjamin Netanyahu: Israel has Killed Hamas Leader Mohammed Sinwar; CNN Speaks with Former Hostage Omer Shem Tov; Donald Trump Pardons TV Stars Todd and Julie Chrisley; Khartoum State Overwhelmed with Cholera Cases; Trump Media Raising $2.5 Billion to Buy Bitcoin; Coco Gauff Forgets Rackets, Wins French Open Match. Aired 11a-12p ET
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ZAIN ASHER, CNN HOST, ONE WORLD: Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has confirmed that a recent air strike killed the de facto leader of Hamas.
BIANNA GOLODRYGA, CNN HOST, ONE WORLD: "One World" starts right now. The confirmation coming on the heels of a Gaza aid operation mired in chaos as
authorities try to keep control of the aid distribution. We're live in Tel Aviv with the latest.
ASHER: Plus, Ukrainian President Zelenskyy in Germany, what he and the Chancellor agreed on when it comes to Ukraine's supply of long-range
weapons. We'll take you live to Berlin for the latest on that as well.
GOLODRYGA: And a cholera outbreak is spreading across Khartoum State. We'll speak to Estifanos Mengistu Emergency Co-Ordinator in Sudan. Hello,
everyone. Live from New York. I'm Bianna Golodryga.
ASHER: I'm Zain Asher. You are watching "One World". 600 days that's how long it's been since Hamas stormed into Southern Israel, killing 1200
people and abducting more than 250 others. And the pain and suffering from that awful day is grinding on across the region.
GOLODRYGA: Yeah, Israel's retaliatory campaign against Hamas has killed more than 54,000 Palestinians in Gaza, according to the health ministry, in
a war that has pushed an entire population to the brink of starvation. And the humanitarian crisis is getting worse. On Tuesday, that despair was on
full display in a deadly incident aids group had been warning about for weeks.
ASHER: After and almost three-month Israeli blockade and all aid, thousands of Palestinians desperate for food, rushed a controversial U.S. and Israeli
backed distribution site that began operating in Southern Gaza. Aid groups are slamming the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation for not operating in the
north. UN had warned the GHP would lead to the forced displacement of Palestinians publicly stated the goal of the Israeli government.
GOLODRYGA: And in Israel, the sorrow from October 7th remains a deep wound. Families of hostages and activists blocked a portion of Ayalon Highway in
Tel Aviv, calling for the release of the 58 hostages that are still in Hamas captivity.
ASHER: Let's turn now to some breaking news. Benjamin Netanyahu says that Israel has killed Hamas Leader, Mohammed Sinwar. Let's go straight now to
CNN's Jeremy Diamond joining us live now from Tel Aviv. So, we heard word that perhaps Mohammed Sinwar was killed a few weeks ago. Now, Netanyahu is
essentially confirming that. What further details did he share Jeremy?
JEREMY DIAMOND, CNN JERUSALEM CORRESPONDENT: Yeah, that's right Zain. We know that two weeks ago, the Israeli military targeted Mohammed Sinwar in a
strike on the yard of the Hun -- of the European Hospital in Khan Yunis at the time Israeli, the Israeli military was unable to confirm whether or not
he was actually killed.
But today, for the first time, the Israeli Prime Minister saying that Mohammed Sinwar was indeed killed in that strike, referencing his death
alongside a string of other Hamas leaders whom Israel has killed over the course of the last year and a half.
Now, interestingly, we have not yet heard officially from the Israeli military itself, which would typically confirm such a high profile killing,
which is notable here. We also have yet to actually hear a confirmation or a denial from Hamas itself, if indeed the Israeli Prime Minister is to be
believed here and Mohammed Sinwar has indeed been killed, this means that Hamas will need a new de facto leader in Gaza.
That was the position that Mohammed Sinwar stepped into following the death of his brother Yahya Sinwar. Both of them were considered the architects of
the October 7th massacre, as well as the kidnapping of 250 plus Israelis, who are -- some of whom are marking 600 days in captivity today.
We also know that Mohammed Sinwar was the man at the moment who would have to green light the approval of any ceasefire agreement as the commander on
the ground in Gaza. And it's unclear who now steps in to fill those shoes? Also notable, Sinwar was apparently killed in this strike, according to the
Israeli Prime Minister, which took place one day after the release of the Israeli American Edan Alexander.
You know, Mohammed Sinwar is very much considered a hardliner. I've been told by sources that he stood in the way of hostage and ceasefire deals in
the past. But he did also green light the release of Edan Alexander in the hopes that this would lead to broader negotiations over a ceasefire and
hostage release deal.
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Those negotiations, of course, as we know, currently, seem to be quite stalled. They are still speaking, but no deal yet in sight Bianna, Zain.
ASHER: All right, Jeremy Diamond live for us there. Thank you so much.
GOLODRYGA: CNN Global Affairs Analyst Kimberly Dozier joins us now live in Washington. Kimberly, it's good to see you. So just symbolically having the
death of Mohammed Sinwar announce this on the 600th day since the October 7th attacks that led to this ongoing war now Israel's longest in its
history.
Jeremy also alluded to the possibility that this could lead to the sealing of a deal in terms of a ceasefire and hostage release deal. We're not there
yet. I'm just wondering, from your perspective and expertise, what leverage if any, does Prime Minister Netanyahu have in bringing this death to some
of the members of his coalition that have been so resistant to a deal?
KIMBERLY DOZIER, CNN GLOBAL AFFAIRS ANALYST: Well, Sinwar's death could be one of the reasons we've seen a delay in negotiations, because who now is
the top guy who signs off on any compromise with Israel? Hamas is probably struggling to figure that out. That said from the Israeli public point of
view, how much more does Netanyahu's government have to do to smash Hamas?
They've taken out all of the top leadership, left it in ruins. Yet the Netanyahu government is still planning to occupy something like 75 percent
of the Gaza Strip in the next two months. Perhaps that's a negotiating tactic to convince the remnants that are left of Hamas that they'd rather
have a two-month ceasefire that's on the table.
And that is a chance for getting some of the remaining hostages who are alive out. Of course, what Hamas has done is when Israeli rescue teams
reach them, they've often killed hostages. So, it's one of those horrible situations. If you know where a hostage is, do you try to rescue them, or
do you just try to put more pressure on the militants?
So, it's a very uncertain time, but surely Israel saved this information about confirming Sinwar's death for this day, to send a political message
to its own people that we're getting somewhere with this war, and to send a message to Hamas that they will not escape the reach of Israeli justice.
ASHER: I want to pivot slightly Kimberly, just to talk about Israel's relationship with the U.S. right now. Opposition Leader Yair Lapid,
essentially, was in the Knesset today, accusing Netanyahu of ruining Israel's relationship with the United States, specifically, obviously with
President Trump.
He said, and I'm quoting here, the U.S. made a deal with the Houthis behind your back without you knowing the President, U.S. President met with the
President of Syria without you knowing. He renewed ties with Erdogan, without you knowing. He brought you to Washington and informed you that he
had returned to negotiating with Iran and did not bother to update you.
Just walk us through how Netanyahu navigates the relationship with President Trump? Obviously, President Trump, as we all know, is very
unpredictable, but what does Netanyahu need to do in order to get the U.S. back on Israel's side, at least in terms of making sure that both countries
are seen from the same hymn book?
DOZIER: Well, you can see that Netanyahu is at least trying to cooperate in terms of meeting with the Middle East Envoy Witkoff and acting as if a
possible ceasefire is on the table, even if they may not be serious about going through with it.
One of the problems that Netanyahu faces staying in power is a couple of the parties that are part of his coalition are hardline and even want to
reoccupy the Gaza Strip and send settlers back in to live there. So, Netanyahu is on a knife's edge, trying to keep the U.S. mostly on side,
while having to carry out very harsh actions that continue to bring international condemnation.
And even a Retired Israeli Prime Minister is now calling what Israel is doing in the Gaza Strip war crimes. So, to have that kind of reaction is
sort of Netanyahu's nightmare, but he's stuck in this situation where he's got to do these things to stay in power.
One more thing I wanted to mention on Iran. The October 7th attacks have led to a decimation of Iran's proxies overseas, its proxies in Lebanon. It
lost the Assad network in Syria and now it's at a crux where it's in a weak position.
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What Netanyahu wants to do is follow that through with the strike to damage as much of Iran's nuclear weapons complex that Israel believes exists as
possible. But of course, what Trump wants is to expand the Abraham Accords, turn the Middle East into a business opportunity, and an expanded war
strike on Iran doesn't fit with that.
So, you're going to see Trump and Netanyahu staying at odds for all of those different geopolitical reasons.
GOLODRYGA: Kim, you mentioned that op-ed from the Former Prime Minister Ehud Olmert. I actually interviewed him yesterday on CNN, where he went
into much further detail as to why he ultimately decides to write that now and saying that Israel is in fact committing war crimes in Gaza.
He has been a longtime critic of Prime Minister Netanyahu, and critical of this war. And the direction it had been going in, but had waited until now
to finally come to the conclusion that, in his view, war crimes were indeed committed. He also went on to say that it was only President Trump who
ultimately could get Prime Minister Netanyahu with pressure to end the war for a ceasefire and hostage deal to finally come into place.
And I'm curious, despite the daylight, the growing daylight, however, you want to describe the relationship as it stands now between the president
and prime minister? Yes, he welcomed him to the Oval Office, only to embarrass him by telling him that he is talking to Iran, but he hasn't
publicly pushed for the war to end, which he could do. What do you make of that?
DOZIER: Yeah, what's running underneath all of this is the fact that the weapon shipments from the U.S. that are enabling this nightmare in Gaza are
continuing. The Israeli government just celebrated earlier this week. I believe it was the 800th air shipment and the 140th shipment by sea of
armored vehicles, missiles, every sort of weapon you could imagine to prosecute this ongoing war.
If Trump really wants to send a signal to Netanyahu that the U.S. has had enough of this flattening of Gaza. He would stop that weapons train until
we see something like that, which is also something the Biden Administration tried. We're not going to see a cessation of violence in the
Gaza Strip. Nobody else except Trump. Yeah --
GOLODRYGA: Kimberly, I would just argue that I don't even think it would require President Trump to threaten to withhold aid, even just the public
message of President Trump delivering the stop this war now and agree to a deal. I would imagine, given a Republican President telling that to the
Prime Minister of Israel, that would be pressure enough.
DOZIER: I agree with you. But at this point, what is driving Trump to do that? His side of the party, his side of the American public, isn't
lobbying for a stop to the violence in Gaza. They even applaud his Gaza Riviera Plan, which is to move all the Palestinians out.
What's increasingly happened in this conflict is the various different sides do not see each other as people do not see their suffering as people
and as someone who covered the pre-Oslo Peace Accords and thought we were seeing peace in the Middle East some 20, 30 years ago, this is really
painful to watch happen, and I don't know where we go from here.
GOLODRYGA: All right, a very somber, but sadly realistic way to end this conversation on the 600th day of the war. Kimberly Dozier, thank you. And
we'll have much more on those 600 days of war in the Amanpour Hour in the next hour. You will hear my interview with Omer Shem Tov, one of the last
hostages to be released before the ceasefire collapsed in March. Here's a little of what he had to say.
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OMER SHEM TOV, FORMER HOSTAGE: Yes, it seemed he got me out. He got the hostages out before we felt like nothing is happening, you know. And I
remember there for me -- there ever since he came into the road, they were very scared of him. Yeah, they wanted terrorists.
GOLODRYGA: Who? Were you afraid of Trump?
TOV: Yeah. They wanted Kamala to be chosen.
GOLODRYGA: You talked politics with them?
TOV: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, they wanted Kamala to be elected but as soon as Donald Trump was elected, they understood that he wants to bring the
hostages back home. Yeah. So, immediately, the way they treated me changed.
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So, if it's the amount of food I could say -- I could say this, that when - - when Trump came into became president, yeah -- the way they treated us changed for me personally. This is what I think.
GOLODRYGA: Do you think because they anticipated that a deal would come soon?
TOV: Yeah.
GOLODRYGA: And that's when they started giving you more food?
TOV: exactly, more food. Treated me better -- you know stopped cursing me. Stopped spitting me -- spitting on me.
GOLODRYGA: They were spitting and cursing.
TOV: Yeah.
GOLODRYGA: Were they beating you?
TOV: No, never. I was never except 7th October I was never abused physically. But I think it's because the way I managed around --
GOLODRYGA: The relationship --
TOV: Yeah.,
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GOLODRYGA: So fascinating because in all of the hostages and released hostages who I've spent time with, the issue over U.S. politics never came
up. And to hear that there were actually conversations between him and his captors about the U.S. election, you know, he lost over 50 pounds in
captivity.
ASHER: In fact, that he got more food because Trump came into power, is really incredible.
GOLODRYGA: Yeah, and he has a lot more to say, especially in his fight for the release of the remaining 58 hostages. My full interview coming up with
Omar Shem Tov in about an hour and a half on Amanpour. That's right here on CNN.
ASHER: All right, Donald Trump growing impatient with Vladimir Putin says the Russian President is, in his words, playing with fire.
GOLODRYGA: President Trump's frustration lies with Russia's escalating attacks on Ukraine as the U.S. and other countries are pushing for a
ceasefire. Trump says he's now considering new sanctions on Russia.
ASHER: Bipartisan group of lawmakers is pushing the president to ratchet up the pressure on Russia. In the Senate, lawmakers from both parties are
working on a bill to impose what they call crippling these sanctions on Russia.
GOLODRYGA: Meanwhile, Ukraine could soon be able to do its own crippling damage to Russia. Earlier in Berlin, the Leaders of Ukraine and Germany
announced joint production of long-range missiles inside Ukraine.
ASHER: This comes days after Ukraine's allies lifted the ban on long-range missiles fired into Russia. Ukraine has been looking for investment for its
growing defense sector. Russia, meantime, promised to lay out its demands for a cease fire in a so-called Memorandum of Peace. So far, it hasn't
appeared.
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VOLODYMYR ZELENSKYY, UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT: After the exchange of our prisoners, our side approached the Russians. The Minister of Defense called
them. He called Mr. Medinsky of Russia, and they said, yes. Yes, we will provide it. But nobody got it. We asked the United States, but they are
still waiting. Everybody is waiting.
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ASHER: Let's get more details of that meeting in Berlin. Let's bring in Frederik Pleitgen. So, this meeting between Zelenskyy and the German
Chancellor comes at a pivotal moment, because it comes as Russia has really stepped up its bombing campaign on Ukraine. And worth noting that Germany
is the second largest supplier of military aid to Ukraine after the United States. This was a pivotal meeting, Fred?
FREDERIK PLEITGEN, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Yeah, it was a pivotal meeting, I think, and I think the Germans definitely are
drastically ramping up their efforts to help the Ukrainians on the battlefield. The assistance package that was announced today by the Germans
Zain is actually quite significant, 5 billion euros. That's a lot of money, and far bigger than any assistance package that the Germans have given.
A single assistance package that the Germans had given to the Ukrainians before this, since the full-on invasion of Ukraine. And there were several
elements to this. One of them was more munitions for the Ukrainians, more weapons for the Ukrainians. But then also that combined production of
longer-range weapons that the Germans were talking about the Ukrainians were speaking about as well.
That was really the centrepiece of what was announced today in Berlin by the German Chancellor, by Friedrich Merz, let's listen into some of what he
had to say there.
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FRIEDRICH MERZ, GERMAN CHANCELLOR: We are financing a considerable part of the country's Starlink cover. And our defense ministers will today sign a
memorandum of understanding on the procurement of long-range weapon systems from Ukrainian production, so-called long-range fires. There will be no
range restrictions. Ukraine will thus be able to defend itself fully, even against military targets outside its own territory.
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PLEITGEN: Long-range fires, the German Chancellor said there. We were actually able to get some more detail on all that from the German Defense
Ministry. They are saying that some of these longer-range weapons are going to be in Ukrainian hands in the next couple of weeks, that there's going to
be no additional training required for the Ukrainian troops who use these weapons.
And the Germans also saying that a significant number of these munitions are going to be in Ukrainians hands by the end of the year. So certainly,
it seems the scaling up production that's happening by Ukraine with the help of the Germans.
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The German Chancellor also saying some of the production could happen both in Germany and in Ukraine, seems as though that's moving at a pretty rapid
pace. And it does seem as though that could drastically increase Ukraine's capability to really target Russian facilities deep inside Russian
territory in the not-too-distant future.
ASHER: All right, Fred Pleitgen, live for us there. Thank you so much. All right, still to come here in "One World", the reality TV stars who caught
Donald Trump's eye will tell you what the president is doing to help these convicted criminals.
GOLODRYGA: Plus, more confusion for foreign students who want to study in the U.S. Why the Trump Administration is pausing student visa appointments
at embassies and consulates around the world?
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ASHER: All right, Donald Trump has pardoned a pair of reality TV stars who were sent to prison for bank fraud and tax evasion.
GOLODRYGA: Yeah, Todd and Julie Chrisley starred in the TV show. Chrisley Knows Best for almost a decade. They were convicted of a $30 million bank
fraud scheme in 2022 resulting in the cancelation of the show. The White House said the sentences were given to the Chrisley were too harsh, and
called them victims of an unjust legal system. Their daughter Savannah has been a prominent Trump supporter and even spoke at the 2024 Republican
National Convention.
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SAVANNAH CHRISLEY, PARENTS PARDONED BY TRUMP: The president called me personally as I was walking into Sam's Club and notified me that he was
signing paper -- pardon paperwork for both of my parents. So, both my parents aren't coming home tonight or tomorrow, and I still don't believe
it's real.
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GOLODRYGA: Let's bring in CNN's White House Reporter Alayna Treene with more. A lot of pushbacks on the way the president has been using his pardon
power. Typically, this is something we see presidents do as they're leaving office. We've seen the president announce a number of pardons since he came
into office. Now the second term. Were we surprised Alayna, as a reporter at the White House to hear about this specific one?
ALAYNA TREENE, CNN WHITE HOUSE REPORTER: Yes and no. I think you know, when I had first heard about this, which was a couple weeks ago, that this could
potentially be something that they were considering, it was surprising. But then, when you looked at kind of the lobbying campaign that Savannah
Guthrie, who you just or -- excuse me, Savannah Chrisley, the couple's daughter here, who you just played a video clip of.
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She had really gone and underwent an intense lobbying campaign to get this on President Donald Trump's radar. You mentioned that she campaigned for
him throughout his 2024 presidential election. Spoke at the RNC, but then she also went, just over a week ago, on Laura Trump's show on Fox News,
where she essentially took her case to the president's daughter in law, and said, you know, I believe that prosecutors are unjustly going after my
parents because they are reality television stars in that former series.
I would note that series showed them living a very lavish lifestyle. She also mentioned in that interview that prosecutors were referring to her
family as the Trumps of the South. Now, I do want you to take a listen, because what the president did yesterday.
He was in the Oval Office. He called up some of the Chrisley's children and told them that he was going to be giving his parents full pardons, but he
also said that he believed the treatment of them by the Justice Department was too harsh, listen.
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DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: It's a terrible thing, but it's a great thing, because your parents are going to be free
and clean. And I hope we can do it by tomorrow. I don't know them, but give them my regards and wish --
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Thank you so much.
TRUMP: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Mr. President.
TRUMP: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I want to say thank you for bringing my parents back.
TRUMP: Yeah, well, they were given a pretty harsh treatment, based on what I'm hearing.
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TREENE: Now, that line there at the end Bianna and Zain, where he said they were given pretty harsh treatment. I mean, that's in line with what we have
heard the president, the rhetoric from the president, really, with all of the pardons we've seen thus far, is him arguing that these people were
unjustly prosecuted by the Biden Justice Department.
But one notable thing as well from that video clip, as you could see, Alice Johnson, of course, someone he pardoned initially during his first term,
kind of standing off to the side while he made that call. I'd remind you that Johnson is actually someone who was eventually pardoned after an
intense lobbying campaign from another reality television star, Kim Kardashian and others. Johnson is now kind of referred to inside the White
House as the president's new Pardon Czar.
But all of this comes as you're right. We have seen the president really kind of use his pardon power more -- and more frequently, I should argue,
in a president's term than we have seen with his predecessors. You know, in the beginning of this year, just the day he came into office, he issued a
pardon for roughly 1600 people who played some sort of role in the January 6th, 2021, Capitol attack.
We also saw him pardon people like Rod Blagojevich, excuse me, and some others. And so, this is just kind of keeping in with this new pattern of
the president, kind of using his pardon power to grant clemency to those who have been supporters of his or those he argues were wrongly persecuted.
GOLODRYGA: All right, Alayna Treene at the White House for us. Thank you. President Trump has been making headlines recently with his war on Harvard
University, among other things, targeting Harvard's ability to admit international students.
ASHER: Yeah, now his administration is taking action that will affect all foreign students, all international students who are looking to study in
the United States. U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio sent a cable on Tuesday ordering embassies to pause all new student visa appointments.
Rubio says anyone seeking a student visa will go through enhanced vetting, which will include a deep look at their social media profiles. Over a
million foreign students are enrolled at American colleges and at American universities, and many of them say their future hangs in the balance.
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ABDULLAH SHAHID SIAL, PAKISTANI HARVARD UNIVERSITY STUDENT: I haven't had the time yet to think about my backup plans, but as of now, I don't think
anyone is sure if they can return for their fall semester, back into Harvard and more broadly, back into the U.S. In that case, I would have to
look for other options. I haven't looked at the list yet for the next available ones, because the most transfer windows for most colleagues have
already been closed.
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ASHER: We're actually going to dig deeper into the impact of the story in the next hour of "One World". We're going to be speaking to one of the
directors of a think tank that focuses on immigration policy. All right, still to come, Central Sudan is in the middle of a cholera outbreak. When
we come back, we'll speak to someone on the ground is going to give us a firsthand look at the deteriorating conditions.
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ASHER: All right. Welcome back to "One World". I'm Zain Asher.
GOLODRYGA: And I'm Bianna Golodryga. Here are some of the headlines we're watching today.
ASHER: Court resumed today into the racketeering conspiracy and sex trafficking trial of Sean "Diddy" Combs, another of Combs alleged victims
named Mia, is expected to take the stand on Tuesday. A former assistant to Combs testified that Music Mogul threatened to kill Rafa Kid Cudi after
learning he was dating Cassie Ventura. Combs has pleaded not guilty.
GOLODRYGA: A French court has convicted a former surgeon of raping hundreds of patients, many of them children. The 74-year-old admitted to the acts.
He was sentenced to 20 years in jail, though he was already serving time for earlier rape convictions. The case has stunned France and raised
questions about the country's public health care system.
ASHER: All right, on a beach today in Tel Aviv, activists and family members of the victims Hamas abducted on October 7th marked 600 days since
that attack. Wearing yellow, they formed a ribbon to honor the hostages and wrote 58 in the sand, referencing the number of people still being held in
captivity.
GOLODRYGA: Sudan's Khartoum State is being overwhelmed with the cholera outbreak. Doctors Without Borders reports thousands of suspected cases
since April, nearly 500 cases reported in a single day just last week. Authorities say the ongoing civil war has made access to safe drinking
water very difficult.
ASHER: Joining us live now from Sudan with a firsthand look at the -- firsthand look at the cholera outbreak is MSF Emergency Co-Ordinator
Estifanos Mengistu. Estifanos, thank you so much for being with us. So just walk us through how this all began.
Because I -- as I understand it, some of the drone attacks that we've seen on water purification systems has really made drinking water very unsafe in
Sudan, and that is what is fueling this latest outbreak. Talk to us about that.
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ESTIFANOS MENGISTU, MSF EMERGENCY COORDINATOR IN SUDAN: Yes, definitely. First of all, thanks for having me. Yes, the war has really -- the direct
impact on this outbreak. Recently, most of the drawn up on the search infrastructures, electricity, water has really made it difficult for the
population to have safe water.
People are forced to have water straight from rivers and other sources, without any treatment to consume them. On top of that, the general war that
left a huge mark on devastating the infrastructure, especially the healthcare system, also made it difficult for people, once they contract
the disease, to have to care, immediately, treatments, and then to save their lives. So yes, the war has really its direct impact on this outbreak.
GOLODRYGA: What is the current scale that you're aware of, of the outbreak right now and who is most vulnerable among the population?
MENGISTU: The scale? It's really alarming scale. Since 20 of May we see really a sharp increase, surge. Today we are -- we are concerned because
holiday Eid holiday is coming. Rainy season is coming, and then with all the supports that are -- that we witness on the ground, not been enough. We
are really concerned. Even it can go further than that.
Today, there are quite a number of treatment facilities where also MSF is supporting. But we are reaching also into a limit that these facilities
will not be able to accommodate all the cases that we see. On the population, yes, the population, it's really the state population, both the
ones who really lived and survived being stranded during the conflict in the state itself.
And then the ones also who are -- who flee the area because of the conflict and then hosted in different parts of the country, or even outside of the
country now, hoping that the situation is getting OK for them to come back. They are coming back. But we all know that the situation where they were in
as an IDPs and refugees in different places was not the best condition. So, it's -- I would say the whole population is facing this burden.
ASHER: Yeah, it is obviously it's incredibly challenging to treat people in the middle of a civil war. When you think about what this disease causes. I
mean, we know that it sort of causes severe diarrhoea, but also, just in terms of the treatment option, it requires antibiotics and an IV treatment.
How hard is it to get those medical supplies to the people who need it the most as a result of this outbreak?
MENGISTU: Yes. So, this outbreak, I mean, apart from how to manage the outbreak, it is really having also an impact in the general health system.
Already, the health system is devastated by the war, and there are still a lot of facilities to be reactivated, the health workforce to come back and
then to accommodate the general public and primary healthcare needs of this population.
On top of that now this outbreak is really sharing and consuming the part of the supplies for primary health care and so on. So today, I mean getting
these supplies is with all the funding, shortage of funding, registered funding and so on, having them available, and then available on the ground,
on the spot for this population, is indeed a challenge. Is indeed a challenge.
We are working and then trying to support ministry of health to be able to do that. But then as a part also, thank you again for having me. That's a
part of the call that we would like to do, to ask all the donors, all agencies, all other actors, to have a collective effort in bringing
supplies and then being on the ground and then putting this fire off.
GOLODRYGA: Well, to follow up on Zain's question, what is the current state of the health care system there?
MENGISTU: The current health care system, and the ministry of health is really working hard to put back into place all the needed. But then -- you
know, quite a lot of them -- estimates around 70, 80 percent of the health system there is infrastructure has been impacted and devastated by this
war.
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But it takes time to bring up this all together. In addition, it needs also a lot of resources to be able to bring it quickly available as a service.
So currently, yes, the system is waking up, but then not as quick as the population needs it, because they have been really without these services,
especially in Khartoum State, for about two years.
So yes, there are some lights in the tunnel that the health system is coming. But then far, far to call it, reaching the minimal services.
ASHER: And 172 people, as I understand it, have been killed as a result of this latest outbreak. And then 2500 people severely sort of injured or
showing symptoms, rather, and many of them arriving for treatment when it's too late, obviously, to be cured. Estifanos Mengistu, thank you so much for
being with us. We appreciate it.
MENGISTU: Thank you. Thank you for having me. Thank you.
GOLODRYGA: All right, still to come, the world's biggest crypto investors are in one place today. The Bitcoin Convention in Las Vegas, including the
U.S. Vice President. Just ahead, we'll look at the growing role of cryptocurrency.
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ASHER: All right, next hour, the U.S. Vice President, is going to deliver the keynote address to the Bitcoin Conference in Las Vegas. Attendees at
the large gathering of Crypto investors will also hear other high-profile speakers, including President Donald Trump's sons, the White House Crypto
Czar and New York Mayor Eric Adams.
GOLODRYGA: You know the cryptocurrency has played a big part in Donald Trump's orbit. In fact, he's gathering investors to buy the cryptocurrency,
and recently held a private dinner for investors in his own crypto token. There's a lot to get through here.
Let's bring in CNN's Matt Egan. And this is really a sector that the president has honed in on this second term of his including family members.
And as we noted, the vice president also making an appearance.
MATT EGAN, CNN REPORTER: Yeah, that's right. Bianna, look, crypto is having a moment here, obviously, like Bitcoin, prices are near all-time highs are
up like 60 percent so far this year.
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Some of the skeptics, including the president, have turned into some of the industry's biggest cheerleaders. And yes, now you have Trump media going
head first into Crypto, announcing plans to amass this $2.5 billion war chest designed to buy Bitcoin. They've raised funds from dozens of
investors. And this is part of a broader trend of companies that are starting to put Crypto currencies on their balance sheet.
Just today, GameStop announcing that they've made their first investment in Bitcoin, buying about $0.5 billion worth of the Cryptocurrency today. You
can see on the chart, Bitcoin prices are significantly higher on the year and over the past 12 months or so. This is also part of a broader strategy
by Trump media to evolve right?
They started off as basically a pure play social media company focused on Truth Social they moved into streaming, and now they're trying to evolve
into a holding company focused on America first investments. To remind you, this company went public last March, and after the president won the
election, he transferred his shares into a revocable trust.
Now he's the sole beneficiary, and the president's son, Donald Trump Jr., is the trust's sole trustee. Now ethics watchdogs are raising some alarm
about this move by Trump media into Crypto because remember, the president won the election last year. He had significant support from the Crypto
industry.
He promised to take a lighter regulatory touch, and he's kept that promise, largely. He's also promised to make the United States the Crypto capital of
the world. I talked to Richard Painter. He was the Ethics Czar under George W. Bush, and he said he believes there is a big conflict of interest here.
He said that President Trump's executive orders, his administration's regulatory policies and his plans for a National Crypto Reserve are
inflating asset prices in Crypto markets, and at the same time, the president and his family are investing in Crypto.
I reached out to the White House about this. A spokesperson said that President Trump's assets are in a trust that are managed by his children.
And this spokesperson says there are no conflicts of interest back to you.
ASHER: And that just a pivot slightly Nvidia earnings on deck. And just walk us through what we're expecting, because Nvidia had warned earlier in
the year that they -- their earnings might be affected by that $5.5 billion charge that they got because of U.S. ban -- export, ban on some chips. Just
walk us through that.
EGAN: Yeah, that's right, Zain. And we can see on the screen Nvidia shares, little changed at the moment, but we could expect it to move pretty
significantly after hours, once these results are out. And remember, Nvidia, it's not just one of the most valuable companies on the planet,
second only behind Microsoft.
It's also really arguably the most important stock in the entire market, because of the role it plays in the AI boom. You can see the share price
has really been all over the place. Earlier this year, during the height of the trade war and recession fears, the stock fell to around $94 but you can
see it has completely bounced back, back near the highs right now.
And I think the two big things that we should pay attention to with Nvidia today. One, what does it say about the damage to its business from these
export controls, this crackdown by the Trump Administration on the export of leading-edge computer chips to China. But also, maybe more importantly,
what does Nvidia say about the outside China demand?
Because investors believe that this AI boom is really just starting, that we're in the early days here. And Nvidia is best positioned to give
investors an update on just how much demand there is right now around the world for its leading-edge computer chips. And I think the answers to those
questions are going to say a lot as far as what Nvidia shares do after hours, but also the bigger impact on the broader market tomorrow.
GOLODRYGA: All right, we'll be watching Matt Egan. Thank you.
EGAN: Thank you.
ASHER: All right, Indiana is more like an Indy 500 race car than a pace one, especially when it comes or when it came to last night's game against
the New York Knicks coming up our Andy Scholes has it all for us.
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ASHER: Last night, the New York Knicks were hoping to tie up the NBA Eastern Conference Finals against the Indiana Pacers. Unfortunately, even
with all the celebrities cheering them on, the Knicks failed to keep.
GOLODRYGA: Yeah, Indiana could send New York home if they win game five on Thursday. Now, if so, they will be going to the NBA Finals. CNN's Sports
Andy Scholes has more.
ANDY SCHOLES, CNN WORLD SPORT: Well, Zain and Bianna, it's not looking good for the New York Knicks. Only 13 teams have ever come back from a 3-1 in
the NBA Playoffs, and the Knicks have never done it. So certainly, seems like we are heading towards a Pacers Thunder NBA Finals.
But Knicks fans, including Ben Stiller and Timothy Chalamet, making the trip to Indy to try to cheer the Knicks onto a win. But instead of a
victory, they got to see a masterpiece by Tyrese Halliburton, the Pacers Star, scoring 32 points to go along with 15 assists, 12 rebounds and zero
turnovers.
Halliburton was the first player in playoff history to have a 30, 15, 10 triple double without a turnover. And every time the Knicks tried to claw
their way back and get within a bucket in this game, the Pacers always had an answer. Final score ended up being 130 to 121 and Pacers now a
commanding 3-1 lead in the series.
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TYRESE HALIBURTON, INDIANA PACERS GUARD: For me, just about winning, you know, I think I just want to be able to prove that -- you know I can
respond when my back against the wall, when our team's back is against the wall. And you know, this is a big win for us, because -- you know if we go
back down there 2-2 -- you know it's probably a little different momentum wise.
JALEN BRUNSON, NEW YORK KNICKS GUARD: We weren't disciplined tonight. I wasn't disciplined tonight. Maybe we got to be smarter. I got to be
smarter. It's really that black and white.
KARL-ANTHONY TOWNS, NEW YORK KNICKS CENTER: We all got to be better -- you know. We all got to be better for him, with him -- you know, we got to --
we got to be better as a team.
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SCHOLES: Meanwhile, the French Open Coco Gauff's opening round match had a bit of a delay because she forgot all of her rackets. Coco Gauff all the
way to the court and then opened her bag when she realized it, a ball boy ran to the back to get them a couple minutes later and after her straight
sets win, Coco jokingly blamed her coach for not putting them in her bag.
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COCO GAUFF, 2022 FRENCH OPEN RUNNER-UP: Well, the most important thing is to play with the racket. So that was getting through the first step, and
then after that, maybe it probably relaxed me going into the match, because it's just such a funny thing. Yeah, so I'm just having to get through
today, and I'll remember my rackets for next time.
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SCHOLES: Coco then later posting this to Instagram. It was a napkin with a pre match to do list, tie shoes, check, pack clothes, check, arrange fruit
salad, check, put tennis rackets in bag. You can see she did not check that one off. Zain and Bianna it's funny.
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Because, you know, Coco has carried her tennis bag, probably, what, a million times, so she knows what it weighs, but she said she had so many
snacks in it for her round one match. She thought that the rackets were in there.
ASHER: Thanks so much to Andy's Scholes for that report. And finally, this hour a video Producer Catherine loves this story --
GOLODRYGA: Made her gay.
ASHER: Yes. Video of two Catholic Nuns in Brazil going viral after an unexpected beat box and dance performance during a Catholic television
program. Take a look.
GOLODRYGA: The priest got into it as well. Sisters, Mercy Paula --
ASHER: Nun --
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GOLODRYGA: -- Marisel Casiano was speaking about a religious vocation retreat when they started discussing the importance of religious music.
That's when the beatboxing and dancing began. At one point, even the presenter, as we noted the program joined in on the dancing.
ASHER: They've had a lot of practice at the convent clearly.
GOLODRYGA: While --
ASHER: -- this may not be the usual genre for religious music. Both Nun says they believe beatboxing is dancing to be quote, taught, look at those
moves.
GOLODRYGA: She's had a lot of practice. If this job doesn't work for us, Zain, I think --
ASHER: We should try something --
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ASHER: -- Brazil and go on a retreat with those dancing sisters. They got some moves.
GOLODRYGA: -- like the rhythm is on point. Catherine, you're laughing when you're saying you go to go. You're always wrapping us for time. But she did
it with a little bit of laughter because she liked this segment so much. We all do. All right, stay with us. We'll have more "One World" after the
break. I like that song. It's catchy.
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