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Eight Injured in Colorado Attack at Event for Israeli Hostages; Ukraine-Russia Peace Talks Wrap up in Istanbul; Israeli Defense Minister Tells Military to Keep "Advancing in Gaza"; Polish Conservative Karol Nawrocki Wins Election; Tariff Tensions Reignite, Rattling Investors; Huge Eruption on Italy's Mount Etna Sends Tourists Fleeing. Aired 11a-12p ET
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ZAIN ASHER, HOST, ONE WORLD: All right, new details in what the FBI is calling a targeted terrorist attack in Boulder, Colorado. "One World"
starts right now. Authorities in Colorado are gathering details about the man accused of carrying out an attack at a Jewish community event. I'll
speak with the Senior Vice President of Counter Extremism and Intelligence at the Anti-Defamation League.
Plus, another round of peace talks between Russia and Ukraine have ended in Turkey, this after Ukraine carried out one of its most ambitious operations
inside Russia since the war began. And Polish voters have chosen a new president. We'll look at what it means for the country's political future
with a former U.S. Ambassador to Poland and Sweden.
Coming to you, live from New York I'm Zain Asher. Bianna is off today. You are watching "One World". For the second time in two weeks, an act of
terror has been played out against America's Jewish Community. The latest attack happened Sunday in Boulder, Colorado, during an event supporting
Israeli hostages.
In Gaza, eight people are injured after a man used a homemade flame thrower and threw molotov cocktails into a crowd. Witnesses described the horror
during the attack.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We're all trying to be like, what do we need to do to perk this fire out? This person is screaming, upset on the ground, on rock.
You know, its rock, it's concrete. How do we put out this fire? This person is burning.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Person who threw the Molotov cocktail had two more in his hand, and he was holding them, and he was yelling, and he was screaming
at everybody. I think he was saying, you're killing my people, as he was holding and I was only trying to make sure people were getting away,
because I saw another bomb going off that was in his hand.
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ASHER: Police arrested the suspect, Mohamed Soliman at the scene. The government says the 45-year-old man was in the U.S. illegally after his
work authorization ended in March. Witnesses say the attacker was yelling free Palestine during the attack. Police add that he told them, I did it to
avenge my people. In the coming hours, Soliman will make his first court appearance. CNN's Whitney Wild filed this report from the scene.
WHITNEY WILD, CNN LAW ENFORCEMENT CORRESPONDENT: Law enforcement is providing more detail about Mohamed Sabry Soliman's immigration status.
According to the chief spokesperson for the Department of Homeland Security, he entered the U.S. in August 2022 on a non-immigrant visitor
visa a B2 visa.
He filed for asylum in September of 2022. He was granted a work authorization in March of 2023 but that authorization expired in 2025. And
according to the Department of Homeland Security, as well as the White House, Mohamed Sabry Soliman, 45-years-old, was in the country illegally.
There are many more questions to answer about how he was able to, you know, fly under the radar after his work authorization expired.
But CNN's John Miller (ph) is reporting, according to his sources, that he had actually filed for asylum as early as 2005 so again, a long list of
questions about what happened between 2005 and what happened today? The other questions that we're hoping to learn more answers to when he makes
his initial appearance today at 01:30 Mountain Time here in Boulder, is why he chose this location? Why he chose that day? Why he chose that group?
What we know is that federal law enforcement executed a court authorized action at an address associated with this case as far away as Colorado
Springs, that's almost two hours from here. So, the questions are, you know, did he travel from Colorado Springs to Boulder? We just don't know,
and we're hoping to learn more information about that today.
Law enforcement is making very clear they believe this was a targeted attack. The FBI is calling this a terrorist attack, and law enforcement is
using a couple of key pieces of evidence to make that claim. The first is that he yelled "Free Palestine" during the attack, and then again,
according to John Miller sources, he told police afterward that he did it to avenge his people.
At this point, he's facing multiple felony charges. He is in custody in Boulder. Again, we will hear much more about this case this afternoon, at
01:30 Mountain Time when he makes his initial appearance.
ASHER: Whitney Wild, thank you so much for that report. We're joined live now by Oren Siegal. He's the Senior Vice President of Counter Extremism and
Intelligence at the Anti-Defamation League. Oren, thank you so much for being with us. I think what frightens people the most of obviously this is
a heinous, horrific crime against the Jewish community in Boulder, Colorado.
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But then it was only six weeks ago that we saw the arson attack against Governor Shapiro, and then just two weeks ago we had this young, beautiful
couple murdered outside the Capital Jewish Museum. And now this just give us your reaction to what we saw on Sunday here?
OREN SEGAL, ANTI-DEFAMATION LEAGUE: Yeah, you know, this incident in Boulder is comes on the heels of multiple different plots and attacks just
in the last 12 months in this country against the Jewish Community. You know, we have documented at least nine such attacks and plots, including
those that you mentioned, you know, and by comparison, in the previous 54 months, there were only about seven.
And so, there's clearly a rise, not just in violent attacks against the Jewish Community, but frankly, in the language and narratives that we think
are normalizing this. You know, for 600 plus days in this country and really around the globe, we have witnessed people tearing down posters of
hostages, right?
A denial of Israeli and Jewish suffering. And yesterday, an individual actually set them on fire, right? And this includes, apparently, a
holocaust survivor. You know, dehumanizing people has horrible consequences, and we are starting to see this play out over and over.
ASHER: So, in this kind of environment, I mean, obviously it's easy to talk about just sort of increasing, you know, visible police presence outside of
synagogues and obvious sort of Jewish community buildings. But just in terms of people really sort of maintaining that sense of safety in this
kind of environment. That is really difficult to do. How is that accomplished?
SEGAL: It is difficult, right? Because what happens in D.C. or in Boulder or a governor's house, or, you know, in Jacksonville, at an APAC Chapter
has an impact on the Jewish Community throughout the country and, frankly, around the globe.
And so, yes, we want law enforcement to be able to have the resources they need to protect Jewish institutions. It also means that the Jewish
Community itself has to -- you know have their head on a swivel, be much more alert about what is happening. You know, check and double check their
security protocols.
And frankly, you know, this is not new for the Jewish Community. You know, bulletproof glass and you know metal detectors are the norm in most
institutions in this country and around the world. But clearly, we need to have more vigilance, and we need allyship from others who are willing to
call out the type of rhetoric that I think creates an atmosphere that leads to these types of attacks.
ASHER: That's an interesting point, just in terms of allyship from others. I mean, what can people who are not Jewish do to really sort of show
support for our Jewish brothers and sisters at this time?
SEGAL: Yeah. I mean, listen, when people are set on fire in your city because they are expressing their support for hostages around the world. I
mean, you know, it's not -- it doesn't take much to -- you know pick up the phone and give them a call. Show up in solidarity.
You know, we have seen examples of other communities show up, you know, during religious holidays, like we are in one right now to make sure that
they are not feeling alone. I mean, I think that does go a long way. It's also the recognition that people throughout the year have to speak out
against those who are dehumanizing the Jewish people and sometimes conflating, you know, the policies of the State of Israel with all Jews.
I mean, that requires sort of an understanding and education and speaking out consistently, not just after something happens.
ASHER: We know that the run for our lives, run for their lives -- excuse me, events in Colorado have been sort of called off temporarily. But are
you concerned that fewer people are going to be willing to show up for these kinds of gathering.
I mean, as you point out, I mean, people who had been gathering on Sunday were just simply calling for the release of hostages. Are you concerned
that perhaps because of the environment we're in right now, because of what's happened just -- not just on Sunday, but two weeks ago and then six
weeks ago with Governor Shapiro's mansion? Are you concerned that few people are going to be able to, or going to be willing to attend these
kinds of protests?
SEGAL: You know, in 2024 at ADL, we documented over 1700 anti-Semitic incidents at Jewish institutions around the country. That was part of over
9000 harassment, vandalism and assault nationwide, and so the community is certainly aware that they are a target.
But you know, we can't allow these incidents to prevent Jews from feeling like they can go out and be in public spaces like that is not the going to
be the solution. Now we are hearing from a lot of folks in the Jewish Community who are feeling that.
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Who are wondering whether it is safe to be Jewish in a public space, and the answer is we need, not only the Jewish Community to double down on
their security, law enforcement, to help out, but for people to literally start calming down the type of rhetoric that leads to this. I think that
will help the community feel safer about their decisions to be public.
ASHER: I mean, it's not just about sort of large public gatherings. I mean, I have friends who have talked about removing the -- from their door for
the same reason, which I'm sure would make you very sad.
SEGAL: Yeah. I mean, we hear this ourselves as well. And you know, again, the Jewish Community, for millennia, has been dealing with this, and I do
not see the Jewish Community in this country retreating into their homes and not going out. That is not an option, and that is not going to happen.
But what we need to do is assess our security and adapt from there, make sure that we are reaching out to law enforcement about the security of the
community, and really open our arms to those who want to stand with us. Because I'm telling you now, the Jewish Community feels vulnerable, and any
type of outreach others will be very meaningful.
ASHER: I think also another concern, and I touched on this in the beginning, is just the pace of these sorts of attacks are scary. I mean,
obviously, you know, I've mentioned sort of three really visible ones that have been in the news and that people have been talking about prominently.
But you said that you've documented many, many others since October 7th, 2023. So, just this idea that one attack possibly inspires another attack,
and you lead to sort of -- this sort of copycat said, I mean, that must be a major concern for you.
SEGAL: It's not only the copycat, but it's -- you know after an incident like we saw in D.C., for example, occurs, there is a chorus of individuals
and groups online, but also on the ground, who justify and legitimize it. Right before the blood even dries there are people who are saying they
deserved it right, because they are Jewish, because they're perceived to be supporting the policies of the State of Israel.
You know, because Jews seem to be a legitimate target. And I have to say that those narratives that glorify terrorism, that undermine the fact that
there's Jewish suffering that is occurring, that essentially any attack against the Jewish Community is acceptable like that is actually much more
common than people would think, both online and from some of the groups that have normalized it.
That has to stop, because when that stops, I'm thinking the atmosphere that makes these attacks more likely will hopefully subside as well.
ASHER: Oren Siegal, thank you so much for sharing your perspective. We appreciate it. All right, as Ukraine and Russia intensify their attacks on
the battlefield, a second round of peace talks have actually just wrapped up in Istanbul. It's unclear what if anything actually came out of them?
But we're learning that Ukraine made three key demands, including a meeting of the two countries' leaders. The negotiations come one day after Kyiv
inflicted a potentially significant blow to Moscow's war machine delivering targeted drone strikes on airfields deep inside Russia.
It was a stunning and audacious assault that Ukraine's domestic intelligence agency claims caused $7 billion worth of damage. The attack,
dubbed Russia's Pearl Harbor by military commentators, destroyed dozens of Russian warplanes, according to one source speaking at a summit in
Lithuania earlier Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said loss is the only thing that will move Moscow closer to diplomacy.
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VOLODYMYR ZELENSKYY, UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT: Europe, together with America, has better weapons than Russia. We also have stronger tactical solutions.
Our Operation Spider Web yesterday proved that Russia must feel what its losses mean. That is what will push it toward diplomacy. And when Russia
takes losses in this war, it's obvious to everyone that Ukraine is the one holding the line, not just for itself, but for all of Europe.
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ASHER: CNN's Nick Paton Walsh joins us live now from London. So, Nick, we heard Volodymyr Zelenskyy there essentially saying that loss is the only
thing that's going to move Putin and Russia closer to diplomacy. Just in terms of what sort of impact these massive and brazen drone attacks might
have had going into these peace talks in Istanbul, which we know have just wrapped up. Just give us your take on that.
NICK PATON WALSH, CNN CHIEF INTERNATIONAL SECURITY CORRESPONDENT: Yeah. I mean, I think it's pretty clear that we anticipated the Russians to slow
roll this peace process there has been from the start, and both parties appear to be emerging with pretty thin undertakings from this very little
progress from what we can see. Indeed, the Ukrainian demands, just repeating what they'd asked prior to this summit.
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Some slightly more suggestions from the Russians, perhaps, that there may be some particular ideas they want to pursue, but nothing there that's
particularly revelatory. And certainly nothing that approaches the 30-day unconditional ceasefire that was originally a Trump Administration idea and
has been pushed again and again by Ukraine and its European allies.
Whether the attacks over the weekend already influenced Moscow's position in these talks? Well, it's clear from the results that very little really
appears to have changed, but there may potentially have been an impact on the Kremlin's long-term calculus. It's probably too early to say at this
stage.
We're clearly seeing in these images here significant damage Ukraine, saying $7 billion 117 of their attack drones launched from the roof
cavities of mobile wooden homes that were essentially brought closer to these four, possibly five, air bases all across Russia. And then the drones
launched themselves after the roofs dropped off targeting.
It seems, some of the propeller driven planes that form a key part of Russia's strategic long range bombing fleet, the Tupolev 95 and a
Supersonic fighter bomber, the Tupolev 22 predominantly amongst the targets here. Now we may see in the weeks, months ahead that that has an impact on
the damage Russia is able to inflict on Ukrainian military and civilian targets in the forthcoming weeks, because they no longer have the strategic
bombers of that significant depth and potency.
But I think the major takeaway we've seen from these extraordinary pictures is just how sophisticated and daring this Ukrainian raid indeed was? How
they managed to it says, according to the Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, over 18 months infiltrating Russia and slowly building this
capability to be able to attack airfields that obviously felt they were safe up past the Arctic Circle, in the case of Olenya in Murmansk.
You can see, in fact, on Google Earth images how they're, in fact, still similar propeller driven craft visible there on the runway, just on open-
source material, similarly to for Belia out there in Irkutsk, halfway across Siberia, clearly, the Russians believe these craft were out of
reach, were safe.
And the Ukrainians, in another sign of the ingenuity they've been able to bring to their conflict with a vastly larger and more lumbering, and at
times it seems an in-defeatable neighbor. The ingenuity they bring has managed to tip the scales and bring these moments like this, where the
narrative briefly seems to swift in their favor Zain.
ASHER: Nick Paton Walsh, thank you. All right, still to come, by air, land and sea Israel's Defense Minister orders his forces to continue advancing
in Gaza, regardless of any ceasefire negotiations. A live report for you just ahead. Plus, the results are in Poland elects a nationalist as its
next president. What this could mean for the pro-EU movement?
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ASHER: All right, risking their lives for food and esteem that is becoming all too familiar. The UN Chief says he's appalled by reports of
Palestinians killed while trying to get desperately needed aid into Gaza, and he's calling for an independent investigation.
I want to warn you that some of the images from the scene are very disturbing. Palestinian officials say the IDF opened fire near a
controversial U.S. and Israeli distribution site in Southern Gaza on Sunday, killing 31 people and injuring dozens more. It happened while
thousands of starving civilians were trying to get food.
The IDF says that its forces did not fire at civilians while they were near or within the aid site, but an Israeli military source acknowledged that
they did fire warning shots towards individuals about a kilometer away before the site opened. The Palestinian Health Ministry said the dead had
gunshot wounds to the head and chest, and one surgeon describing it as absolute carnage.
CNN's Jeremy Diamond joins us live now from Tel Aviv. Jeremy, what more do we know about what happened here?
JEREMY DIAMOND, CNN JERUSALEM CORRESPONDENT: Well, listen, it's quite clear from eyewitnesses on the ground, from doctors at local hospitals, as well
as the Palestinian Ministry of Health, that it was the Israeli military that opened fire on these Palestinians who were trying to get to this aid
distribution site in Southern Gaza.
The Israeli military issued this denial, saying that they didn't fire at civilians who were, quote, near or within the aid site. But we don't know
what their definition of near is, and that's where this Israeli military source comes in, telling us that the IDF did indeed fire what they describe
as warning shots about one kilometer away from this aid distribution site.
And what's interesting is eyewitnesses on the ground, and a video that we've geolocated to the scene indicates that the gunfire was directed at
people who were at the Al Alam Roundabout, which is about one kilometer away from that aid distribution site, which should be clear, though, that
what we have seen from the aftermath of this shooting is far more than warning shots.
Doctors at local hospitals said that many of the dead came in with gunfire wounds to the head as well as to the chest. Eyewitnesses as well as Doctors
Without Borders, which treated a number of the dead and wounded, said that there was gunfire coming from snipers, from tanks, even from gunships
positioned in the Mediterranean Sea.
As this was all happening on a coastal road, the Al Rashid Street. This is the road that Palestinians were told to use in order to get to this aid
distribution site. And it is important to note that it is the only reason these Palestinians were on this road was to get to that aid distribution
site.
And this speaks to many of the dangers that humanitarian aid officials have been warning about for weeks now, even before this Gaza Humanitarian
Foundation was became operational in Gaza. Aid officials had warned that having a small number of sites where large groups of people are going to
have to travel, sometimes for miles, through dangerous combat zones.
Israeli military positions that that could result in the exact kind of scenario that we appear to have seen just yesterday in Gaza. It's leading
Philippe Lazzarini, the Executive Director of UNRWA, the main UN Agency in the Palestinian territories, to say that aid distribution in Gaza has now
become a quote, unquote, death trap.
He and other humanitarian aid officials have called on Israel to open the border crossings into Gaza allow significant humanitarian aid to flow in,
and for this aid to be distributed widely at hundreds of locations in Gaza, instead of just these four Gaza Humanitarian Foundation sites in Southern
and Central Gaza, Zain.
ASHER: Jeremy Diamond, thank you. Despite efforts to bring about a ceasefire deal, Israel's Defense Minister is telling the military to keep
advancing in Gaza. In a statement, Israel Katz called on the military to, quote, employ all necessary means, by air, land and sea, adding either
Hamas releases the hostages or it will be destroyed.
The Israeli military released this video from the weekend showing what it says are ongoing military operations in Gaza. And a ship bound for Gaza is
carrying much needed aid, along with a handful of activists, including Greta Thunberg.
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The Organizers Freedom for Tiller Coalition, says the ship set sail on Sunday aiming to quote, break Israel's siege of the enclave. They say
they're hoping to deliver aid and raise international awareness of the humanitarian crisis in Gaza.
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GRETA THUNBERG, CLIMATE ACTIVIST: And we are doing this because no matter what odds we are against, we have to keep trying, because the moment we
stop trying is when we lose our humanity. And no matter how dangerous this mission is, it is nowhere near as dangerous as the silence of the entire
world in the face of a live stream genocide.
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ASHER: Still to come, we are learning more about the suspect in Sunday's fiery attack on a group of Jewish community members in Colorado. The latest
on the investigation. Plus, the Australian woman on trial for killing three people with the world's most toxic mushrooms takes a stand for the first
time, details ahead.
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ASHER: Welcome back to "One World". I'm Zain Asher in New York. Here are some headlines we are watching for you today. U.S. officials say the
suspect charged in Sunday's terror attack on Jewish community members in Colorado was in the country illegally. Mohamed Soliman is accused of using
a flame thrower and Molotov cocktails to set victims on fire. At least eight people were injured. Soliman is expected in court this afternoon.
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Russian and Ukrainian Delegates met in Istanbul today for a second round of peace talks, just one day after Kyiv launched a shock drone attack on
airfields deep inside Russia. The mission code name Spider Web was one of the most significant blows Ukraine has landed against Russia in more than
three years of a full-scale war.
Officials in Mexico are counting votes after Sunday's first ever judicial elections, about 13 percent of eligible voters reportedly turned out to
elect thousands of judges, including all nine Supreme Court Justices, counting all of the votes is expected to take about two weeks.
Winning by a razor thin margin, Poland Election Conservative Candidate Karol Nawrocki as its next president. His victory means the party will
continue its 10 years and counting spot in the presidential palace, potentially hampering the central -- centrist government's efforts.
Here with me now is the Former U.S. Ambassador to Poland and Sweden Mark Brzezinski. Thank you so much for being with us, Ambassador. Just first of
all, talk us through how much a selection of Nawrocki is a setback for the pro-EU government.
MARK BRZEZINSKI, FORMER U.S. AMBASSADOR TO POLAND & SWEDEN: The election of Nawrocki absolutely dashed the hopes of the pro-EU Donald Tusk Government
of Poland, because Tusk was hoping to be able to get his program passed into law without presidential veto.
And the election of Nawrocki will continue the vetoes that President Duda of Poland has been doing up to now. So, it's a true setback for the Donald
Tusk's government. And in many ways, Zain you know you saw in Poland yesterday was a competition between two visions.
On the one hand, an internationalist, western oriented, very progressive agenda represented by the Warsaw Mayor Rafal Trzaskowski. And on the right,
a candidate who represents the anxieties and uncertainties of half the electorate per yesterday's election that feels that they've been left out
of the economic miracle of Poland.
"The Economist" magazine had on its cover last week the remarkable rise of Poland. Poland is truly booming economically, but half the country feels
that the Capital Warsaw is unresponsive to their interests and voted against the Warsaw Mayor. It's not dissimilar from what you saw in America,
Trump versus Biden and Trump versus Harris in 2020 and 2024.
ASHER: Yeah. I mean, that's such an interesting point, because I was going to ask you how much Trump's presence really loomed large in these
elections. We saw Donald Trump actually host Nawrocki at the White House just last month. We know that CPAC, I mean, Kristi Nome also endorsed
Nawrocki as well. So obviously Donald Trump's presence was a key factor in terms of Nawrocki possibly winning this election.
BRZEZINSKI: Zain, you're absolutely right that President Trump and Trump's agenda figured directly into the Polish election. And that's relevant,
because in many ways, Poland is a bellwether. You know, we have Bellwether states in the United States.
Poland, in some ways, is a Bellwether country, working class and kind of rising from the communist rubble into a thriving, amazing economy, but
concerned about the future. And the role of Trump in winning this election, in many ways, is a political win for President Trump.
But it's also true that President Elect Nawrocki could serve as a much- needed bridge to the top of the Trump Administration. No one in the top of the Polish government, despite the fact that Poland is right next door to
Ukraine, and all the support of Ukraine comes through Poland, no one at the tippy top of the Polish government is connected to the top of the Trump
Administration.
Well, Trump helped Nawrocki win. Nawrocki was directly connected to Trump, and there's a possibility that now Nawrocki could convert his political win
into greater connectivity and getting into the ear of Donald Trump, no Polish leader has that Nawrocki could provide that, and that is something
very much needed here in Poland.
ASHER: We're expecting to hear from Donald Tusk in a few hours from now, in Poland. He's going to give a live address. What do you expect him to say?
Because this very much was a referendum on his liberal policy agenda.
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BRZEZINSKI: I think what we'll hear from Donald Tusk Zain, is the following that Poland's remarkable rise in success over the last 30 years, a booming
economy here in Poland, again, is fragile. It's resilient as a country, but it's a fragile economic success story.
In many ways we Americans love rags to riches, success stories. They are everywhere here in Poland, in terms of the business community, but it is
fragile. And what Donald Tusk will say is that unity across political from the left and the right a unity of purpose and a shared definition of the
opportunity and a shared definition of the challenge is what the country needs, and right and left needs to work together.
In many ways Donald Tusk showed that already last year in 2024 when he traveled together with President Duda, the right wing President of Poland
and the left wing Prime Minister of Poland, Tusken Duda, traveled together to the Oval Office, to the White House, to meet with President Biden on the
25th Anniversary of Poland joining NATO, to celebrate the connection with Washington, to celebrate Poland's membership in NATO over 25 years and to
come together about the future of Ukraine.
So, in some ways, precedent has already been set for what Donald Tusk will call for. But Nawrocki is further to the right than incumbent President
Duda. And Nawrocki will likely try to use his veto to stymie Prime Minister Tusk, because you'll want to have a return of law and justice in Poland
when the parliamentary elections occur next in 2027.
ASHER: All right. Mark Brzezinski, live for us. Thank you so much for sharing your perspective. Appreciate it. The Australian woman on trial for
killing three people with the world's most toxic mushrooms took the stand for the first time in her defense, prosecutors say that back in 2023 Aaron
Patterson fed her extreme -- estranged husband's parents, aunt and uncle, Beef Wellington that was laced with death cap mushrooms.
Days later, all except the uncle died in hospital. Patterson's defense lawyers say this was all a quote, terrible accident. Madison testified that
her relationship with her estranged husband was merely functional, and she said she'd had a never-ending battle with low self-esteem. She'll be back
on the stand on Tuesday.
Up next on "One World", trade tensions are on the rise again. Why Donald Trump and his closest advisers say even the courts cannot stop Trump's
tariffs.
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ASHER: All right, Donald Trump and his top economic officials are making it clear they're not backing down from his plan to reshape global trade. Trump
is lashing out against the courts on social media, warning of an economic downfall if they block his sweeping global tariffs.
On Sunday, Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick said tariffs are, quote, not going away, and that Trump will find another way to enforce his trade
agenda if needed. Chinese officials say the U.S. is provoking new trade frictions after Trump accused China of violating the trade truce the
economic superpowers agreed to last month.
With more on the simmering trade tensions, we've got CNN's Alayna Treene joining us, live now from the White House and CNN's Vanessa Yurkevich in
New York. So, Alayna, let me start with you. The Trump Administration is determined, no matter what, despite what the courts say that they are going
to get -- they're going to get the sort of Trump trade agenda through. Just walk us through what that means when Howard Lutnick talks about either this
way or we'll find another way.
ALAYNA TREENE, CNN WHITE HOUSE REPORTER: Yeah, that has really been a key question. And once the court ruled this way, that was one that I posed to
many top economic advisers here at the White House and some Trump Administration officials, was, are you going to reclassify these tariffs?
I actually asked Kevin Hassett, the National the Director of the Economic Council -- excuse me, asked him directly about that, and he said
essentially that he doesn't believe they'll have to do that. He thinks that they're going to win on an appeal. But of course, then we heard from
Lutnick that there are other tools at their disposal in order to make trying to see if they can force these tariffs through.
Now, of course, the key issue that the International Trade Court took issue with was the fact of how the president went about trying to impose those
sweeping tariffs, which was going around Congress to declare a national economic emergency. And again, we've heard now from many different leaders,
from Bessant to Lutnick to Hassett, all of them saying that they believe that they should win on the appeal that it's the president's right to make
his own trade agenda, particularly when it relates to these different foreign countries.
But we'll see. And so, they are looking through, I'm told, behind the scenes, different ways of maybe needing to reclassify these tariffs in a
way that the courts would be OK with him doing. For example, despite his tariffs on -- his reciprocal tariffs and his tariffs on Canada and Mexico
that were -- you know, targeted to trying to flow the stem, or stem the flow of drugs and migrants over the border.
His steel tariffs, for example, were not part of the tariffs that the court took issue with. And so really, that's where this comes down to a question
of whether or not they're going to move ahead. We're trying to reclassify this, or really wait and see if the Supreme Court, or another court, will
take up their appeals, their appeals case in favor of the Trump Administration.
But one other thing as well that I think is so interesting in all of this is the talk around China and what they're going to do with them? We've now
heard from a series of the president's economic advisers say that they believe that a call between the President of the United States and China's
President Xi Jinping needs to happen, essentially saying that that is what they believe needs to happen in order to unlock the stalemate of trade
negotiations at this time.
ASHER: All right, Alayna Treene stand by. Vanessa, let me bring you in, because another announcement that a lot of people are talking about is, of
course, Trump saying that he's doubling tariffs on steel to 50 percent and that it's going to go into effect June 4th. So that's literally this week
literally this week, this Wednesday. What sort of impact do you think that's going to have on the U.S. economy and also on consumers in
particular?
VENESSA YURKEVICH, CNN BUSINESS AND POLITICS CORRESPONDENT: Yeah, Zain, this was a significant escalation in this trade war, because
previously, there had been a 25 percent tariff on all steel imported into the United States. Now on Wednesday, it's going to be 50 percent so you're
talking about double.
And the president was able to do this under Section 232; this is when the president -- when the president believes that there is a national security
risk by using the foreign imports of another country. So, in this case, he is pointing to U.S. Steel.
So just to remind consumers and American viewers and viewers from around the world what exactly is made from steel? Well, appliances, electronics,
cars and defense. So, you're talking about fighter jets to guns to things like army vehicles, these are all things that use steel, and that is why
the president has signaled that he believes that using foreign steel is a national security issue.
Worth noting, though that many, many years ago, decades ago, in 1969 U.S. - - the U.S. was the largest producer of steel around the world. But look, by 2020 we became the fourth largest producer of steel. So clearly, we are now
relying on other countries in order to have enough steel here in the United States.
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The percentage breakdown is that the U.S. produces about 77 percent of domestic steel that we use. The other 23 percent we get from other
countries like Canada, Mexico, Vietnam, South Korea and Brazil. Also worth noting that, because of this escalation from 25 percent to 50 percent on
foreign steel imports, we have heard from the European Union that they are now threatening a tariff on steel exports from the United States.
So, U.S. exports of steel into the European Union, about 50 percent. The only thing is, we here in the United States do not export a ton of steel.
We produce a significant amount, and then we do import some as well.
The one thing to point out here, though, Zain, is when you start to raise prices on foreign steel, that actually makes the price of U.S. Steel more
expensive, because U.S. steel producers, then don't have that competition from abroad. And just look at steel prices, steel stocks that we've been
checking for the past couple of days now.
These are big ones, Cleveland Cliffs, Steel Dynamics, Nucor. Cleveland cliffs alone, up 25 -- 23 percent now in the last day. Steel Dynamics and
Nucor up nearly 10 percent that is a sign that investors are realizing that U.S. steel prices are going to go up, bad for consumers potentially, but
good for businesses there.
This is something that we're going to see play out over the next couple of weeks now. Because I mentioned, the European Union has already said that
they are thinking about that 50 percent reciprocal tariff going into effect sometime in July. They're willing to negotiate until then, but if the
president continues to escalate, especially on steel, we could see some higher reciprocal tariffs thrown our way by other countries, Zain.
ASHER: All right, Vanessa Yurkevich live for us there. Alayna Treene, thank you so much. So many glaciers across the globe are facing destruction. Our
Bill Weir has more on what's happening, how soon it can happen, and the likelihood of avoiding the catastrophe. Plus, a massive eruption on Italy's
Mount Etna sent tourists running for their lives. We'll have the latest on that as well after the break.
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ASHER: All right, researchers estimate that nearly 40 percent of the world's glaciers are already doomed. That means their melting is
irreversible and will add to sea level rises no matter what steps we take. Scientists who conducted the study say the only way to keep that scenario
from getting even worse is to lower global temperatures by even just a tiny amount.
Let's bring in our Chief Climate Correspondent, Bill Weir, who has more on this. So, Bill, obviously, when you look at what's in this report, not
hopeful, exactly, but just walk us through what it actually says about glaciers and other things?
BILL WEIR, CNN CHIEF CLIMATE CORRESPONDENT: Well Zain, let's start with just asking, what is a glacier? And it struck me today, it's frozen time.
It's thousands and thousands of snowfalls over the centuries, formed into these giant rivers of ice. And anybody who lives in the Alpine regions know
they've been going away at an alarming rate.
This is Glacier National Park in Montana. When they opened in 1910 there were 100 glaciers. Now there are 24. And they'll be gone by the time my
little boy is my aging. No glaciers in Glacier National Park. And in Alaska, you've seen the Mendenhall Glacier melt so much that flood waters
went into Juneau.
We saw that collapse in Switzerland of a small glacier that led to a huge landslide and wiped out most of a mountain village there. So hugely
impactful, not just for sudden bursts of energy from mountains that are falling apart, but also these are the water towers of the Alps and the
Himalayas.
In many cases, communities get their water from that. The Colorado River system comes from land ice, glaciers that are going away. And if you look
at the science, this is the first study that has gone beyond 2100 and really run models to see how it will be for centuries from now.
And the blue line at the top is how much goes away at 1.5 degrees, which we're frankly past that now, that was the goal of the Paris Accord. But you
can see that the trend lines going down as so much ice and at a certain point it levels off, once global temperatures are stabilized.
But we're headed towards the red line. We're headed towards about 2.9 degrees of warming by the end of this century. So, you can see that means a
huge difference between losing 75 percent of your glacier and maybe 39 percent, which is gone regardless of what happens now. But there's a --
there's a lot of long-term science here. It is really grim Zain, but it is also a big wake up to what can be done right now and save what's left.
ASHER: This idea that 40 percent of the world's glaciers could disappear, and a lot of them obviously disappearing no matter what we do, no matter
what steps we take at this point, obviously very depressing. Is there any reason to be hopeful through all of this Bill?
WEIR: Well, there's always reason to be hopeful because the technology exists to stop putting planet cooking pollution into the sky, and it is
cheaper than the fossil fuel alternatives these days. It just takes political leadership. The authors of these this study the University of
Innsbruck in Austria.
There are some Swiss researchers saying, this is a story full of hope. It shows you that if we stop the warming at -- you know with a few tenths of a
grease from now, you can hang on to the land ice that's left. They've been experimenting, actually, in the Himalayas in India and Pakistan, with
creating glaciers in the winter using spraying water that then will melt over the summer months.
Technology can help with this but really has to come down to stopping the warming as soon as possible and hanging on to as much of these frozen
ecosystems as possible, because they mean so much to human life.
ASHER: As you point out, the technology exists. We just need the political will. Bill Weir always good to see you. Thank you so much.
WEIR: Thank you.
ASHER: Italy's Mount Etna began violently erupting overnight, spewing volcanic ash and rock into the air and causing explosions at up to 50
kilometers away. Panicked tourists on the mountain began fleeing as plumes of ash and rock began erupting from the volcano. One tour company told CNN
they had 40 people on Mount Etna when it erupted.
Air traffic in the region has been disrupted after authorities issued an order for all aircraft to avoid the area. Despite being one of the world's
most active volcanoes, scientists say there hasn't been an eruption of this magnitude since 2014.
And finally, this hour, a massive food fight is happening in Colombia, where the Gran Tomatina Festival is underway. Take a look at this video.
You can actually see people gathered in an arena, throwing tomatoes, or tomatoes, depending on where you from, tomatoes, tomatoes at each other, as
you can imagine the food fight left behind a mess turning the ground into one giant pool of tomato sauce.
The event was created to mirror Spain's La Tomatina Festival some 20,000 visitors are expected during the three-day event with some 45 tons of
tomatoes available for people to throw. Right stay with CNN. I'll have much more "One World" with my colleague, Bianna who's back after the break. Stay
with us.
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