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LYNDA KINKADE, CNN HOST, ONE WORLD: Demonstrations continue, even as President Trump orders more troops to Los Angeles. "One World" starts right

now. Los Angeles is bracing for its fifth day of protests over immigration raids. There's a high-profile fight escalates between state and federal

officials over the legality and the necessity of the National Guard.

Also, a high school shooting in Austria has left nine people dead and dozens injured. We'll have a live report on the latest. And an

unprecedented move by America's top health official, firing all 17 members of a Critical Vaccine Advisory Committee. Live from Atlanta. I'm Lynda

Kinkade. Welcome to "One World".

It's 08:00 a.m. in Los Angeles, and the streets are relatively quiet out this hour after a fourth night of clashes between police and protesters.

But America's second largest city is on edge as the president sends in an additional 2000 National Guard troops and deploys hundreds of U.S. Marines

in what the California Governor is calling a blatant abuse of power.

Overnight, police in riot gear fired rubber bullets to disperse the crowds. Some protesters threw objects at offices, including what appears to be

fireworks. Now this all comes as a high-profile fire escalates between state and federal officials over the legality and necessity of a military

force.

And a day after Trump endorsed the arrest of Gavin Newsom in what the California Governor is calling an unmistakable step towards

authoritarianism. Here's how the Mayor of Los Angeles described the current mood in her city.

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KAREN BASS, LOS ANGELES MAYOR: I can't emphasize enough the level of fear and terror that is in Angelenos right now, not knowing if tomorrow or

tonight, it might be where they live, it might be their workplace. Should you send your kids to school? Should you go to work? And you remember this

from several years ago, the same type of fear that was going around.

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KINKADE: Well, meanwhile, we may hear from President Trump next hour as he departs for Fort Bragg, North Carolina to mark the Army's 250th Birthday.

Well, CNN's Kevin Liptak is at the White House, but first I want to go to Josh Campbell, who joins us live from Los Angeles. Good to have you both

with us.

So, Josh, Trump is doubling the deployment of the National Guard to some 4000 hundreds of Marines also deployed despite that unusual move, we are

expecting to see these protests could continue for a fifth straight day. Just put the size of these protests in perspective for us. How widespread

are they?

JOSH CAMPBELL, CNN SECURITY CORRESPONDENT: Yeah, you know this is, it's important to know this is relegated essentially, to a few blocks of

Downtown, Los Angeles, where I live here, obviously this massive metropolitan area. But we have seen, as you mentioned, going on now to the

fifth day in the evening, there have been protests that have turned violent, with people firing fireworks at police officers, officers having

to respond with nonlethal force to try to get them out of there.

But it's important to note, I've been talking to law enforcement sources who say that the crowd is basically divided into different groups. First,

you have people who are actually out protesting Donald Trump's immigration policies. These recent immigration crackdowns.

But you also have people that are protesting because of the very presence of the National Guard being sent here by the president. And so, there's

this question, well, is that itself continuing to fuel what we're seeing? And then the final group of protests, just what police call professional

agitators, people who come out just to try to thrive on conflict with officers.

But we have seen this tension between local authorities as well as the federal government. As far as these troops, the local authorities here say

that this is only being more provocative, only continuing to see these protests. Take a listen here to the Mayor of Los Angeles.

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BASS: And it makes me feel like our city is actually a test case. A test case for what happens when the federal government moves in and takes the

authority away from the state or away from local government. I don't think that our city should be used for an experiment to see what happens in the

nation's second largest city. Well, maybe we can do this to other cities.

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CAMPBELL: Now finally, it's important to note for those unfamiliar, each state in the U.S. has its own National Guard that's run by a Governor, but

what happened here? Donald Trump came in, asserted authority to essentially control those forces, send them to L.A., as you mentioned, he's now told,

said that he's going to bring in hundreds of U.S. Marines as well. You know, we'll wait and see if that continues to fuel some of these protests

we've seen.

KINKADE: Yeah, exactly. Josh, if you can just stand by for us, I want to go to Kevin outside the White House. Kevin, we have heard from the California

Governor said, calling this a blatant abuse of power, saying that president calling for the arrest of a sitting Governor is an unmistakable step

towards authoritarianism. What's Donald Trump saying about that?

KEVIN LIPTAK, CNN SENIOR WHITE HOUSE REPORTER: Yeah, the president clearly sees Gavin Newsom as a political foil. He's seen him that way for quite

some time, but obviously this has been escalating over the last several days.

This idea of arresting Newsom and other officials in California actually originated with Tom Homan, who is the President's Border Czar. He said over

the weekend, if that -- if those officials impede efforts to carry out these immigration enforcement actions that they too could potentially be

arrested. And President Trump essentially backed him up yesterday. Listen to what the president said.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Gavin Newsom is -- he's daring Tom Homan to come and arrest him. Can he, do it?

DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: I would do if I were Tom. I think it's great. Gavin likes the publicity, but I think it

would be a great thing.

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LIPTAK: Now, yesterday, Homan was on CNN, and he said that there is nothing that Newsom has done yet that would actually warrant an arrest. But you

hear Newsom there warning of authoritarianism, and I think that's something that a lot of Democrats, including a lot of Democratic Governors, have

begun talking about this fear that President Trump could eventually expand this effort of deploying National Guard troops or active-duty marines or

other military servicemen in to cities around the country.

That's something that the president actually talked openly about on the campaign trail last year. It's something he mused about during his first

term in office, but was eventually sort of walked back from that. You hear the president and his top advisors, including Stephen Miller, use the word

insurrection or insurrectionist. That raises the question of whether the president would invoke the 19 -- I'm sorry.

1807, law, the Insurrection Act, which would greatly expand his power to use the military on U.S. soil. He actually has not done that just yet. He's

using a different authority called Title 10, but it remains an active conversation in the West Wing about whether he would invoke this law, the

president has not yet ruled out doing just that.

KINKADE: All right, good to have you staying across it for us. Kevin Liptak at the White House. Josh Campbell in L.A., thanks so much. Well, the

protests are now spreading well beyond California and across the U.S. as an anxious nation waits to see what will happen next.

Anti-ICE, demonstrations are being held in New York, Chicago, Dallas, Atlanta, Seattle, San Francisco and several other cities. And it comes amid

an aggressive push by the Trump Administration to raise arrest and deportation numbers. One of the many ways they're doing that is through a

program that allows state and local law enforcement officers to partner with ICE to enforce immigration laws.

This map shows where those programs are taking place or pending. David Weinstein is the Former State and Federal Prosecutor and a Former Assistant

U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of Florida. He joins us now live from Miami. Good to have you with us.

DAVID WEINSTEIN, FORMER STATE & FEDERAL PROSECUTOR: No. Good to see you this morning.

KINKADE: Let's start on the fact that Donald Trump is doubling the number of troops, National Guard troops deployed to Los Angeles to what are some

scattered protests throughout the city? Under what circumstances is that sort of a move warranted?

WEINSTEIN: Well, there's two different circumstances that might warrant that. One would be, if the Governor of a particular state said, or local

municipality, we're unable to control what's going on here, we need some assistance. Could you please send in federal government agents or troops to

help us do that?

That would be the National Guard, potentially the marines, and that's under one section of part of the laws in Section 10 that the reporter talked

about just previously. There's another section that says the president doesn't need permission of the governor or the state to do any of that.

And that if he sees a situation developing, he on his own, can call in troops to quell what's going on. He keeps using the word insurrectionist,

because that would call into play yet another act. And so that's what we're seeing a little bit of here in Los Angeles.

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KINKADE: We heard last night from Kristi Noem, the Homeland Security Secretary, speaking on Fox News. I just want to play some sound.

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KRISTI NOEM, U.S. HOMELAND SECURITY SECRETARY: These are organized. These are people that are being paid to do this. You can follow how they behave;

the signals they give to each other in these crowds and these protests to instigate violence. This is an operation, and it's professionally done.

They've done it before, and we're going to stop it and make sure that we prosecute every single one of them.

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KINKADE: David, from what you've seen, is there any evidence that these paid protesters?

WEINSTEIN: Nothing that I've seen. Now that doesn't mean that the government isn't collecting text messages, intercepting communications

between these individuals. Perhaps have an informant on the inside of one of these groups. We've seen this happen before in other indictments that

were brought by the former administration against people who they believe mounted a collective effort to interrupt peaceful proceedings.

But on its face, we haven't seen anything yet. Yes, there are some individuals who are engaged in violence who are not peacefully protesting,

but I haven't seen anything in any of the footage that's being shown that shows these people are acting in concert with each other.

KINKADE: David, we've seen arrests, immigration arrests at court houses, happening all over the country. People who are trying to work through the

system legally what rights do they have?

WEINSTEIN: Well, they certainly have a right to due process, and that is what the district courts have been saying. That's what the court of appeals

have been saying, and that's what the U.S. Supreme Court has been saying. You are entitled to due process. Your day in court, you need to be

confronted by what allegations and evidence there is against you.

You have an opportunity to contradict that or confront it. And at the end of the day, after a hearing, whether it's an administrative hearing in

front of an immigration judge or a hearing in front of a district court judge, then you've been given due process, and that's the rights they have.

And they should engage an attorney who's familiar with the process to help them show that they have a right to remain here. And so as long as they're

getting due process, they will have a resolution here, and one that isn't going to be reversed or turned around.

KINKADE: Donald Trump wrote that L.A. would have burnt to the ground had he not caught in the National Guard. We've heard plenty of criticism of that

move, suggesting that it can exacerbate the situation. There's also some consideration about whether he should invoke the Insurrection Act. What

would that mean?

WEINSTEIN: Well, again, that would allow him, independent of any state agency, to invoke his power. Some would argue that by using the

Insurrection Act, he would then need to have the input of state and local governments to get these troops in play.

Others have said, well, he may call it an insurrection, but again, under a separate section of the same Title 10, he could call in the troops himself.

So, at this point, it looks like the troops are there, whether or not he's going to call that insurrection and go under that act, or whether he's

going to go under Title 10, that remains to be seen.

KINKADE: All right. David Weinstein, we appreciate your perspective. Thanks so much for joining us.

WEINSTEIN: You're welcome.

KINKADE: Austria's Chancellor has declared three days of mourning after a shooter opened fire at a high school, killing at least nine people. It

happened in Austria's second largest city of Graz. Video surfaced on social media from outside the school where you can hear the gunshots.

Austria's Interior Minister says the 21-year-old gunman died by suicide at the school, and was a former student who did not graduate.

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GERHARD KARNER, AUSTRIAN INTERIOR MINISTER: There are 9 fatalities in this national tragedy. 6 females, three males, and also 12 injured, some of

them, seriously, people, young people. The 10th fatality is the person running amok, and I can now confirm that he acted alone.

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KINKADE: I want to bring in our Melissa Bell for more details. Melissa So, school shootings are pretty rare in Europe. What are you learning about the

gunman and, of course, the victims?

MELISSA BELL, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, just from that press conference, we've been getting a few more details. This was such a

shocking tragedy began just after 10:00 a.m. this morning.

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And it's taken a little while to get much in the way of information from Austrian officials, even as they descended on that school to try and figure

out what had gone on, rescue the wounded and try and work out why the perpetrator acted as he did. As you heard there of the nine victims killed

six women or girls, some of them were under 18, three boys or men.

What we know about the perpetrator beyond the fact that he was a 21-year- old former student who had not graduated from this high school that he committed suicide in one of the school's bathrooms after carrying out those

killings that also, by the way, wounded 12.

The police, however, wouldn't be drawn on what his motivations may have been, simply, as you heard there, suggesting that he did act alone. But

you're quite right, Lynda, in a part of the world where school shootings are exceedingly rare, this is all the more shocking these were, after all,

secondary school children who were just starting their day when this young, 21-year-old went on the rampage, armed, we understand, with a rifle and a

handgun, and causing a great deal of death and destruction as he made his way through the school.

The reactions, of course, have been of shock, from the Austrian Chancellor right through to the President of the European Commission. It is she said,

Ursula Von Der Leyen a very sad day when death and destruction come to school rooms. Here in Europe, very rare in Austria, it is firearm deaths

that are exceeding rare, 0.1 per 100,000 people.

You can compare that Lynda in the United States to 4.5 for every 100,000 people. It gives you an idea of how rare firearm murders are. And then, of

course, you have the mass casualty side of this and the fact that this took place in school, Lynda.

KINKADE: Yeah, gun crime certainly rare in Austria, but high levels of gun ownership there. Just give us a sense of the mood in the country and how

the nation is responding?

BELL: That's right, it's an interesting point. This is a part of the world where there are not very often school shootings, but Austria, compared to

its neighboring European countries, does have a relatively high number of gun ownership. 30 people carry weapons for about every 100.

So, that is relatively high. But still, the shock that's been expressed not just in the City of Graz but across Europe, has to do with the fact that

even if there is this legal gun ownership in Austria that is more than elsewhere in Europe, these sorts of shootings simply do not take place.

There have been a few violence incidents these last few months in Austria itself, the town, the mayor of one town was gunned down in the street.

Another man went on the rampage a few months ago, said to be a lone, random attack, but clearly this on another scale, and we wait to hear what the

motivations of this man might have been, Lynda.

KINKADE: Yeah. All right. Melissa Bell, staying across it from Paris. Thanks so much. Well, still to come, it was a tough night for us all ahead.

Officials in Kyiv describe another intense night of warfare as Russia pummels the capital in a massive air attack. Plus, once bound for Gaza, now

bound for Paris. Activist Greta Thunberg has left Israel after being detained by the military. We're with the latest from Israel's war in Gaza

next.

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KINKADE: Welcome back. It was another terrifying night in Ukraine after Russia launched a massive drone attack. Ukrainian officials say 315 drones

targeted the Capital Kyiv early Tuesday. One person was killed in high rise buildings, homes, cars and warehouses were damaged.

A second wave of deadly attacks hit the southern port city of Odessa, killing two people. And those overnight attacks come on the heels of

Russia's largest drone strike since the war began, as our Nick Paton Walsh reports, the pace and the intensity of attacks is increasing.

NICK PATON WALSH, CNN CHIEF INTERNATIONAL SECURITY CORRESPONDENT: While it's Monday night attacks that appear to have been a record Russian attempt

according to Ukrainian numbers of 479 drones launched against Ukraine. It is indeed the last night that's seen so much of the focus, it seems, on

trying to break Kyiv's air defenses.

315 drones launched, according to Volodymyr Zelenskyy, a lot of which focused on the capital. Some effects too, where certainly a building next

to the EU Delegations Office is damaged, and the 11th Century San Sophia Cathedral experiencing damage too. That's a UNESCO protected site, a sign

that potentially, some of the capital's air defenses were not indeed able to stop everything getting through.

And perhaps Moscow's focus will be night by night, as they seem able to escalate the volume of drones that they fire at Ukraine, will be focusing

on trying to breach the capital's defenses that have held up, it's fair to say, reasonably well over the past months or so, although many were

concerned at some point, there would be a moment where they would break.

The Port City of Odessa to though coming under attack, two killed there, and a number injured as well, as well as a maternity ward being hit too

again by drone strikes. It appears, though, that the response to Russia's being attacked in its key air bases over last weekend is, it seems so far

to up by a few 100 more potentially the number of drones it launches at Ukraine every night.

Is this a start of a new higher tempo, potentially, because Russia is able to produce more drones. We'll have to see in the weeks and months ahead.

But it certainly marks again, sleepless nights for Ukrainians, injury, death and civilian infrastructure clearly being hit as well as these drones

are either shot out of the sky or dive down into their targets.

The horror, though, frankly, of so many in Kyiv, the capital, just lying awake and listening to the endless buzz of drones passing overhead, hard to

overestimate. Nick Paton Walsh, CNN, London.

KINKADE: Well, happening just a short time ago, the UK and several other Western allies are imposing sanctions on two Israeli government ministers

over comments they made about the West Bank. The security minister and the finance minister, who play a key role in keeping Prime Minister Benjamin

Netanyahu's government afloat, will face a travel ban and an asset freeze in the UK.

Both men have previously faced criticism for their hard-line rhetoric and positions on the West Bank, as well as the war in Gaza. Well, meantime,

Activist Greta Thunberg is now in Paris after being deported from Israel. Thunberg and other activists were on board the aid ship Madeleine bound for

Gaza when it was intercepted by Israeli forces on Monday.

And for the first time, Israel has carried out naval strikes on Yemen, targeting a port they say the Houthis are using to handle weapons. Have

more from the region with a report from Jerusalem next hour. Still to come on "One World", both sides need a deal, but neither side seems willing to

budge. We'll have the latest on the trade talks between the U.S. and China. Plus, military might on display how Donald Trump is getting ready for a big

birthday celebration for the U.S. Army.

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KINKADE: Welcome back to "One World". I'm Lynda Kinkade in Atlanta. Good to have you with us. These are some of the headlines we're watching today.

U.S. President Donald Trump has deployed hundreds of active-duty marines and authorized an additional 2000 National Guard troops to Los Angeles to

quell immigration protests.

But state and local officials in California, including the Los Angeles Police Chief, are slamming the federal government's actions, calling them

unnecessary, and warning that it could lead to chaos. Police in Austria say a gunman opened fire at a school there, killing at least nine people. It

happened in Austria's second largest city, Graz.

Police say the gunman is also dead. The interior ministry adds that some of the victims were aged between 14 and 18. Just days ahead of the next round

of nuclear talks Iranian lawmakers say Washington is not serious. They accused the U.S. and Israel of planning what they called a strategic trap.

On Monday, Iran said it's still finalizing its response to the latest U.S. proposal.

Top economic officials from the U.S. and China are meeting again today in London trying to hammer out a trade deal. They're hoping to find a way to

resume trade of Chinese rare minerals and American technology components that each are needed for a wide variety of important products.

Donald Trump is going to a birthday party of sorts this afternoon. He and his Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth, says will travel to Fort Bragg in

North Carolina. It's part of a week-long celebration of the 250th birthday of the U.S. Army.

The president will deliver a speech and oversee a demonstration of Fort Bragg's military power. And this is all leading up to a huge military

parade this weekend in Washington. More than 100 tanks and other military vehicles will roll through the streets of Washington, D.C. as part of the

event.

Our Alayna Treene is following the developments and joins us now from Fort Bragg, which is she -- when she's awaiting the president's arrival. Alayna,

good to have you with us. So, Trump's 79th birthday will also coincide with the military parade on Saturday. Does have an eye watering price tag? What

are we expecting?

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ALAYNA TREENE, CNN WHITE HOUSE REPORTER: Yeah, it's being estimated, Lynda, to cost roughly $45 million of course, things are still moving. They are

still organizing that. So that's still an estimate. But look, this entire week, as you said, is really meant to highlight the 250 years of the army's

accomplishments.

And he came to, he's come to Fort Bragg today, later this afternoon, really, because it is a, you know, it's the headquarters of U.S. Special

Operations Command. You have highly skilled military members, including the Green Berets and rangers who are based out of here. And he wants to, one,

use this event as part of the broader military recruitment effort, but also really lean into that 250th anniversary.

And all of this comes as well. I think it's very important to note that this coincides with him sending thousands of National Guard troops and

Marines to Los Angeles to try and quell the protests there, underscoring how the president really does view the military right now under him, which

is as a tool to help solve domestic issues in addition, of course, to foreign issues.

And so, we're going to see that highlighted, I believe, from my conversations with Trump Administration officials during his remarks today.

There will be a theme that we'll continue to hear, of course, throughout the rest of the week, and then this weekend, yes, this parade is coinciding

with the president's 79th birthday.

And we're going to see dozens of tanks actually going down the streets of Washington, D.C., other fighter vehicles as well. Some people worried about

what that will mean for the actual city, but the president has really been trying to hype this up and show how it kind of underscores his reshaping of

the military, now that he is president.

KINKADE: All right, Alayna Treene, we will no doubt speak to you again over the coming days. Good to have you with us. Thank you. Breaking news to us

into scene, and there have been multiple explosions in Southwest Columbia, including the City of Cali. The Mayor of Cali says someone detonated

explosive devices near at least two police stations.

Several people have reportedly been injured in those blasts. Stefano Pozzebon is in Bogota, Columbia, covering the developments. Stefano, what

are you hearing?

STEFANO POZZEBON, CNN CONTRIBUTOR: Yes, Lynda, well, unfortunately, what we're hearing is not good news this morning here in Colombia, with multiple

reports of explosions, like you said, at least three car bombs detonated in Cali, which is Columbia's third largest city, according to the Mayor

Alejandra Eder.

I'm going to just read to you the latest from the mayor who tweeted or posted on X less than an hour ago, saying that the third car bomb detonated

in an area called Los Mangos. The authorities and emergency services are on the scene, and the priority is to attend the injures and guarantee the

safety of the community.

We are not yet to confirm reports of any casualties, but of course, we are hearing that as well. Now, if you take a step back and you think what is

happening the context of Colombia this week, that is just waking up and still trying to come to terms with the brutality of the attack against a

presidential candidate last Saturday.

Miguel Uribe, who is still here in Bogota in an intensive care unit, fighting for his life as of today, as of this morning. Well, this is a

country that perhaps was hoping to put this level of political violence and violence onto the streets, behind its back. It was no more than six months

ago that hundreds of international delegates would travel to Cali in November of 2024 to participate in a biodiversity conference sponsored by

the United Nations.

It was deemed to be safe at that time. What we're hearing today and what we're seeing is a coordinated wave of attacks, and not just in the City of

Cali, but all across the whole of southwest of Colombia. And that tells us, Lynda, that the security situation is deteriorating very rapidly.

We're still more than a year away from the next presidential campaign here in Colombia. The elections are due for July 2026, however, these can

rapidly turn into a very, very dark chapter, as the Current President, Gustavo Petro is wrapping up his mandate in the next 12 months.

It's like I said, this is a country that has suffered greatly, enormously because of political violence. It had hoped to leave that chapter behind

its back. Well, perhaps not so fast, unfortunately, and we're hearing today, seems just to be the proof that the situation is deteriorating once

again in Colombia, Lynda.

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KINKADE: Yeah, this wave of violence, Stefano is really concerning in light of the fact that the leading presidential candidate is still in hospital,

as you said, in Bogota, where you are after being shot. What more do you know about his condition after he had surgery?

POZZEBON: Yes, well, we received a medical statement from the clinic the Santa Fe hospital here in Bogota. They sent out a statement earlier today

saying that he survived the night, he spent the night, and his conditions are stabilizing there. He is now stable and perhaps a little bit more

positive, if you read between the lines from what we heard yesterday, which is that the senator had limited response to the treatment.

We have confirmed that he was shot, at least with one bullet to his head. So, the situation is extremely complicated and extremely severe. Supporters

of Miguel Uribe went once again to the clinic yesterday. There was a candlelight vigil by their supporters. The family was present, once again,

calling for supporters to pray for a miracle.

He seems he's by no mean out of danger. He's still in a very, very delicate situation, but at least every hour that passes and that the situation does

not deteriorate, is good news when it comes to the Senator Miguel Uribe, who was victim of a violent attack with at least two gunshots while

participating in a campaign rally on Saturday afternoon here in Bogota.

And this is perhaps, Lynda, another aspect. I moved to Colombia in 2020 and one of the first thing that you hear as a foreigner is that the cities are

safe. The rural area is still where most of the violence takes place. Well, in the last four days, that assessment has changed.

We have seen an attack on a leading on a very front-line politician, candidate for the presidency. And now we're seeing car bombs, a wave of car

bombs, detonating in concert in the third largest City of Colombia that means that not only that, the violence is escalating.

But is escalating in the cities, which is where most of the Colombian population and most of the foreigners and the tourists who come to this

beautiful place every year are gathering. So, this is a sign of concern, Lynda.

KINKADE: Yeah, multiple car bombs in the southwest of Colombia after that assassination attempt the presidential hopeful, really concerning news, but

we will stay across this. Stefano Pozzebon, thanks very much. Well, top economic officials from the U.S. and China are meeting again today in

London trying to hammer out a trade deal.

They're hoping to find a way to resume trade of Chinese rare minerals and American technology components that each need for a wide variety of

important products. CNN's Clare Sebastian has been tracking these developments from outside Lancaster House in London, where the trade talks

are happening right now.

Good to have you there for us, Clare, as these talks get underway for a second day. So, we know that this deal on Chinese rare earth minerals is

what the U.S. wants. What does China want?

CLARE SEBASTIAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, look, they both have something that the other side want, Lynda, but I think this issue with rare earths

has really sort of thrown a spanner in the works of the U.S. efforts to use this escalation in tariffs to deal with structural issues related to the

U.S. trade deficit and get a better deal in the world of Donald Trump for their economy.

Because ultimately, what we've seen is as the U.S. escalated tariffs in April, China put in new restrictions, instituted a new procedure where

companies that exported these rare earth minerals that are so critical for so many different industries had to gain separate approval, and that has

really slowed down the supply chain.

And when the two sides met in Geneva and agreed to reduce tariffs on each other, the U.S. expectation would be that China would lift those

restrictions and rare earths would start flowing again. That hasn't happened, and that has brought us to this point where they're trying to

hammer out a deal.

And this is a big deal for the U.S. These are very critical minerals, and we're hearing from experts that U.S. companies may actually be running

short. One auto industry expert even told CNN on condition of anonymity that the auto industry is preparing for shut down, so it's an urgent issue

for the U.S.

But even so, we're seeing positive noises coming out of not only President Trump, but the U.S. delegation here. Have a listen to U.S. Commerce

Secretary Howard Lutnick, as he went into the talk some six hours ago, this morning.

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HOWARD LUTNICK, U.S. COMMERCE SECRETARY: -- all day yesterday, and I expect -- all day today --

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SEBASTIAN: So, you know, he said we're going to spend a lot of time together. I think that's a signal that even just coming to the table should

be a good sign, certainly to the markets, and we've certainly seen some positive signs on the markets around that. But I think in terms of what the

U.S. has to offer China since as these tensions have escalated, certainly over the last month.

The U.S. has stepped up curbs on certain high-tech products, including surrounding microchips and things that are crucial to Chinese technology,

and China wants some of those lifted.

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And interestingly, we've heard from a number of sources in the U.S. that Donald Trump has directed the delegation here to ease up on some of those

curbs in return for releasing those rare earths. But I think what is crucial to remember, Lynda, is big picture here, the issues they're dealing

with things that are new or have got worse since these trade -- escalated in April.

They are not the tariffs or the structural issues around the U.S., trade deficit with China that are central to this trade war. So, this is going to

be a way, I think, to if it goes well, smooth the path to further negotiations.

KINKADE: Yeah, certainly a pivot and the way this has played out. Good to have you with us. Clare Sebastian in London, thank you. Well, the top

health official in the U.S. has dismissed an entire panel of vaccine advisors and experts. What it means and how it will impact health care for

Americans, we'll have that story next.

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KINKADE: Welcome back. I'm Lynda Kinkade. Well, in an unprecedented move U.S. Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has

dismissed all 17 members of an expert panel that advises the CDC on vaccines. The group is, in his words, plagued with conflicts of interest.

Kennedy says they will all be replaced with new advisers. One of those dismissed experts says, quote, I've never seen anything this damaging to

public health in my lifetime. Well, joining us now is the Dean of Brown University School of Public Health, and former White House COVID-19

Response Coordinator, Dr. Ashish Jha, thanks so much for joining us.

DR. ASHISH JHA, DEAN OF BROWN UNIVERSITY SCHOOL OF PUBLIC HEALTH: Thank you so much for having me back.

KINKADE: So, as we've heard from Robert F. Kennedy Jr., he says this was needed to restore trust. We heard from Dr. Tan, who's the president of the

Infectious Diseases Society of America, who said unilaterally removing an entire panel of experts is reckless, shortsighted and severely harmful. Dr.

Jha, what's your reaction?

JHA: Yeah, so I think first of all, we should call this what it is. I mean, Secretary Kennedy is basically using a lot of nonsense, lies, if you want

to call it that, to dismiss a group of experts who shape what vaccines, if any, are going to be available to the American people. These people have

been thoroughly vetted.

They are experts in the field. So, this is very, very concerning move, and it worries me a lot about where he is going with the entire vaccine

strategy for the country.

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KINKADE: Yeah, exactly. It was interesting. When you think back on his confirmation hearing, we heard from doctors, including one from Louisiana,

who assured the committee that he wouldn't do anything to the CDC, that he would actually maintain the Prevention Advisory Committee on Immunization

Practices.

He's certainly broken that promise. What does it mean? Like, what's the risk, given that we've currently got a measles outbreak and we're already

seeing vaccination rates in children decline?

JHA: Yeah, so I think we have to look at this move in the broader context of what Secretary Kennedy has been doing. Right, so we have the worst

measles outbreak we've had in 25 years, and he has not come out and been as clear as he needs to be about people needing to get vaccinated.

He has raised the issue of vaccines and autism. This is settled science, and he's raising kind of debunked issues already. And between all of that,

and now this move, I think that all of us are worried about, is, what is the future of vaccines? Are we going to have polio and measles vaccines

available to kids in the United States?

Are we going to have flu vaccines available to the elderly in the United States. At this point, all of that is in question, and I think the answer

is we just don't know based on the way he is behaving.

KINKADE: Yeah. And there's also concerns around insurance coverage if these vaccines aren't recommended by the CDC or government, whether insurance

companies will even cover them for children?

JHA: Well, this is actually the critical issue, because he's saying, look, I'm not taking away anybody's choice. But he knows, because, you know,

obviously understands, in America, if the CDC isn't recommending it, private insurance companies won't cover it, also the CDC stops recommending

it.

Half the kids in America get their vaccines through something called the Vaccines for Children Program. That program won't cover it. So, if he

decides with his experts that polio vaccines are no longer recommended, kids in America will not get vaccinated against polio. I mean, this is a

very dangerous backward turn that we have got to push back against.

KINKADE: Yeah, and on top of guarding the vaccine advisory, the Trump Administration is cutting public health research. We've seen hundreds of

scientists sign a scathing letter criticizing those cuts. And we heard from Jeremy Berg, who ran the National Institute of General Medicine, who said,

horror doesn't even come close.

It's tremendously damaging to the United States' ability to do research, to the U.S. government, our competitive position in the world. Have you ever

seen cuts this deep?

JHA: No, look, we've had a 50-year bipartisan agreement in this country that investing in science in partnership with research universities and

academic medical centers is good for the American people, not just good for our economy, but we create cures and treatments that make a big difference.

That's what the administration is turning its back on, and that's what the scientists of NIH were speaking up against, because this is unprecedented.

We use that word very lightly, unprecedented. This is truly a remarkable degree of self-inflicted harm to the American people. And those scientists

are speaking out, saying we should not be doing this at this moment.

KINKADE: So, kind of -- what's the steps to fight back against some of these cuts that we're seeing right across the board?

JHA: I think, look, I think the biggest organization, or we need to step up here is Congress. Congress actually allocates these funds. NIH has had deep

bipartisan support because, of course, diseases attack people in blue states and red states and every State of America.

And Congress understands that for our competitive posture as well as for the health of the American people, NIH is a fantastic investment. So,

Congress needs to step up at this moment and say to the administration, you cannot unilaterally make these cuts. We have got to get back to studying

critical diseases, chronic diseases, diabetes, cancer in kids, and cutting funding for those programs is bad for the American people.

KINKADE: Dr. Ashish Jha, always great to have you on the program. Thanks so much for your time.

JHA: Thank you for having me.

KINKADE: Well, the judges ruled in a huge Hollywood civil -- fight. We'll have the latest on the battle between Justin Baldoni and Blake Lively and

Ryan Reynolds in just a moment. Stay with us.

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KINKADE: Welcome back. I'm Lynda Kinkade. A $400 million defamation lawsuit filed by director Justin Baldoni against Hollywood power couple Blake

Lively and Ryan Reynolds has now been dismissed by a judge. This is a major development in the continuing civil litigation between former costars

Baldoni and Lively that has been going on since December.

The actress had initially sued Baldoni, claiming that while working on the film, it ends with us. Baldoni sexually harassed her. He immediately denied

Lively's claims. She claims that when she spoke up, Baldoni's team orchestrated a smear campaign to ruin her reputation.

Well, for more, let's bring in CNN's Lisa Respers France. Good to see you, Lisa. So, this is a case that has certainly gone at a great deal of

interest. Just explain why the judge just missed the case.

LISA RESPERS FRANCE, CNN REPORTER: Yeah, you know, Blake Lively's team is trying to position this as vindication and a total win, and it's not

exactly that. So, as you pointed out, she filed suit against him in December, but it started initially as a civil rights complaint in which she

alleged that he had sexually harassed her during production of their film, and that when she spoke up, he then orchestrated this smear campaign.

He, of course, as you pointed out, denied it immediately, and then followed with his suit. Because that civil rights complaint that she filed then

turned into a lawsuit from her a civil suit. He filed his suit in January, alleging that she and her husband Ryan Reynolds, were trying to hijack, as

he said, his film and also trying to destroy his career.

He also sued their publicist, as well as "The New York Times", because "The New York Times" published an article about her allegations that this whole

smear campaign was directed at her because she complains about how she says she was treated during the filming.

So, but what the judge has ruled is that her initial complaint, that initial civil rights complaint, can't be used as part of his defamation

claims. So, it's not so much that he ruled on the merits of what Justin Baldoni was saying, and it was more he was saying that legally, what she

said about him was protected and can't be used as the basis.

But the judge also is allowing him out of the seven complaints that he's filed, is allowing him to revisit a few of them if he would like to refile.

But the biggie, the defamation is the one that he dismissed and is now off the table, Lynda.

KINKADE: All right. Lisa Respers France, appreciate your time. Thanks so much for joining us.

FRANCE: Thank you.

KINKADE: Well, finally, this hour, Princess Diana's fashion legacy is up for auction. More than 100 pieces that belong to the Princess of Wales,

including dresses, hats, purses and even letters, are being sold. It's described as the largest collection of her royal fashion to ever go under

the hammer.

And one stands out piece, dubbed the caring dress, was worn on several occasions and could fetch up to $300,000. What part of the auction proceeds

will support the charity muscular dystrophy UK.

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That does it for this edition of "One World". I'm Lynda Kincaid. Thanks so much for joining us today. There is much more "One World" after the break

with my colleague, Bianna Golodryga. Stay with us for more news.

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