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California Sues Trump Over National Guard Deployment To L.A.; Tensions Rise As Trump Orders More Troops To L.A. Protests; At Least Nine Killed In Austria School Shooting; ICE Detains Migrants During Supervisor Appointments; Trump: L.A. Was Under Siege Until I Sent In Troops; Trump: Many In Los Angeles Are Paid Insurrectionists; Aired 12-1p ET
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BIANNA GOLODRYGA, CNN ANCHOR: ICE protests pop up nationwide as Trump focuses the military on Los Angeles. "One World" starts right now.
President Trump turns up the heat on California, saying it would be burning to the ground if he didn't send in the National Guard. Now, he's adding
more of those and 700 Marines. We'll discuss.
And tragedy strikes in Austrian school, a mass shooting leaves nine people dead. We'll have the latest.
And waiting for a breakthrough, the second day of talks to agree to a trade deal between China and the U.S. We'll explain why rare earth minerals are
the sticking point.
Hello, everyone. Live from New York, I'm Bianna Golodryga. Zain is off today. You are watching "One World."
The eyes of America are on its second largest city, now the frontline in Donald Trump's immigration crackdown. The streets of Los Angeles are calm
at this hour following a fourth night of protests. But tensions are rising after the U.S. president mobilized an additional 2,000 National Guard
troops and ordered the deployment of hundreds of active duty Marines expected to arrive at any time.
It is a dramatic escalation to the protests sparked by immigration raids and its drawing a scathing reaction from state and local officials.
California's governor calling it a blatant abuse of power.
And overnight, police and riot gear fired rubber bullets to disperse crowds and some protesters then threw objects at officers, including what appeared
to be fireworks.
The demonstrations, meanwhile, are spreading to cities across America, including New York, Atlanta, Philadelphia and Seattle. The Justice
Department says that it has nine open cases connected to the L.A. protests.
Meanwhile, a section of Los Angeles and its downtown area is cleaning up after the demonstrations resulted in damage from looting, graffiti and
vandalism.
Earlier, our Sara Sidner spoke to CNN Stephanie Elam, who was outside of a looted Apple store. But she made clear that most of the city is operating
normally.
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STEPHANIE ELAM, CNN CORRESPONDENT: I can tell you, when we first got on the scene here overnight, that we did see a little bit of a skirmish of LAPD
clearing out some people who were left over. But overall, it's been calm. There are a lot of police officers out here.
And you are seeing the left over. We're outside an Apple store here. And you can see they've been boarding it up. We've been watching the crews out
here boarding it up. You can see there's blood underneath here from some of this drama of getting in and out of this store here.
And I can tell you that, you know, in this area, there is another store that was looted, that was broken into. If you look in through the store
here, you can see that they broke in and knocked things off and were taking things off the shelves here.
Overall, though, you were talking about the Trump administration mobilizing these troops. It's -- it's a --a bit of a horn-locking between the
democratic governor and the democratic mayor, Karen Bass here, who says that basically she thinks that this is all just a test case.
Take a listen to what she said in her own words.
KAREN BASS, LOS ANGELES MAYOR: And it makes me feel like our city is actually a test case. A test case for what happens when the federal
government moves in and takes the authority away from the state or away from local government.
I don't think that our city should be used for an experiment to see what happens in the nation's second largest city. Well, maybe we can do this to
other cities.
ELAM: And again, you see the tags out here all over downtown. No ICE, no DHS, all of that.
But what is really important to point out here, Sara, is that 99 percent of the city, of the county, are perfectly normal. Things are operating as
normal. Its parts of downtown that you're still seeing some of the effects here. But overall, L.A. is operating as normal.
And I think that's something that's not being as made as clearly out there to the rest of the country here. It is not the entire city. It is just this
part of downtown.
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GOLODRYGA: Well, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth addressed the unrest a short time ago on Capitol Hill. He sparred with a democratic member of
Congress who asked him how much the troop deployment to Los Angeles was costing.
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PETE HEGSETH, U.S. SECRETARY OF DEFENSE: In Los Angeles, we believe that ICE, which is a federal law enforcement agency, has the right to safely
conduct operations in any state and any jurisdiction in the country. Especially after 21 million illegals have crossed our border under the
previous administration.
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ICE ought to be able to do its job, whether it's Minneapolis or Los Angeles.
REP. BETTY MCCOLLUM (D-MN): Chairman, I have limited time, I asked a budget.
HEGSETH: And they are being --
MCCOLLUM: Could the secretary please address the budget? Thank you.
HEGSETH: You asked about the situation in Los Angeles and we believe --
MCCOLLUM: I asked about the budget -- I asked about the budget, sir.
HEGSETH: -- ICE agents should be allowed to be safe and doing their operations. And we have deployed National Guard and the Marines to protect
them in the execution of their duties because we ought to be able to enforce immigration law in this country unlike what Governor Walz did in
2020.
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GOLODRYGA: The immigration raids and protests are escalating an already tense relationship between Donald Trump and the California's governor.
On Monday, the U.S. President endorsed the arrest of Gavin Newsom and what the governor is calling an unmistakable step toward authoritarianism.
California is suing the Trump administration over the president's decision to deploy National Guard troops to L.A. without the governor's consent,
calling it unlawful and unconstitutional.
The president, meanwhile, claims the city would be, quote, burning to the ground if he didn't send troops in.
CNN's Elie Honig joins me now live for more on this and the legal perspective. Elie, it's always good to see you.
So, what is the legal justification of activating and deploying Marines and obviously what we saw with the National Guard over the last 48 hours by the
president of the United States without the consent of the governor?
ELIE HONIG, CNN SENIOR LEGAL ANALYST: Well, beyond it with respect to the National Guard, Donald Trump is using a federal law that was passed back in
1903 that says the president can deploy National Guard if he finds that there's a rebellion or a danger of rebellion or if he finds that it's
necessary to enforce federal laws.
Now, California has sued. The main argument that California is making is that same law says that the president's orders have to be passed through
the state's governor. And here California is saying our governor, Governor Newsom does not agree to this. He does not want the National Guard here.
And therefore, the president's actions are invalid.
So we don't know the answer exactly. The administration, I believe, will say, that's simply a formality and it's really up to the president, not a
governor, whether to deploy the National Guard under this law. So look for that case to play out very quickly.
Now the Marines is a separate issue. That doesn't fall under this law. Important to know, you cannot use the military in the United States to
conduct law enforcement policing functions.
So absent some other sighting of a -- a different law, it seems that what the president is doing here is using the Marines, but not in a law
enforcement capacity rather in a security capacity to protect federal personnel to protect federal buildings.
GOLODRYGA: Yes. Because right now, the Marines will be protecting federal assets and buildings, but there is reporting that CNN has that the
president is at least in mulling invoking the Insurrection Act. That is something that we reported. He also was wanting to do back in 2020 during
some of the protests and riots there.
What would be the effect of invoking the Insurrection Act? Would the Marines be able to participate in restraining and engaging with these
protesters if that were the case?
HONIG: Yes, if the president were to take the very dramatic step of invoking the Insurrection Act. So, as I said before, there's usually this
wall of separation between the military and between civilian law enforcement in the United States.
One of the only ways to take down that wall, theoretically, is by invoking the Insurrection Act. The President would have to make a finding that
there's either an insurrection or a rebellion or that he's unable to enforce federal laws.
If the president were to make such a proclamation, which is very rare in our history, then the military Marines and others could actually begin to
serve law enforcement functions, to make arrests, to execute search warrants, to do interviews and interrogation.
So we're not there yet, but there certainly has been some concerned voice that that could be a next step by Donald Trump here.
GOLODRYGA: And we saw that exchange between Pete Hegseth, the defense secretary and a Democratic member of Congress get a bit testy when the
secretary of defense appeared to be dancing around the question of how much sending in the National Guard and now the Marines was costing the U.S.
government.
Another Pentagon official said it's about $134 million. Elie, if these protests become calmer and smaller, is there any legal justification for
maintaining this troop level presence at the time?
HONIG: Well, so that's an important point. As these -- if these protests, we hope, become smaller and calmer, then the legal justification for
sending in the National Guard and the Marines starts to disappear.
In fact, if we look at the law that I mentioned before, the president has to show that there's a danger of a rebellion or an inability to enforce
federal law without the National Guard.
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So as the protest shrinks, so too does the threat of a rebellion, which may already be overstated or the threat of being unable to enforce federal law.
So the practicalities really do matter here. It's important to watch how these protests develop, whether they get worse or whether they get better.
You can imagine the converse. I mean, if these protests were to get more serious, larger, more violent, that would actually help the president's
case that we need to bring in the National Guard.
But as it is, as you said, Bianna, they do appear to be on the decline. And that, to me, undermines the legal rationale that Donald Trump has used
here.
GOLODRYGA: Do we know where this case was filed? This lawsuit was filed by the -- by officials in California?
HONIG: It's filed in federal district court, which is what we call the trial court in California. Yes.
GOLODRYGA: OK. And so pending the -- the outcome there, because that -- that could be imminent, right? I mean, I would imagine that they would be
hearing this case and we may have seen the president by that point recall these troops or keep them on the ground.
What do you make of the fact that now we have reporting that the attorney general has opened nine cases involving arrests that were made following
these riots in Los Angeles?
And then "The San Francisco Chronicle" over the weekend obtained a letter from DHS Secretary Kristi Noem addressed to the defense secretary asking
him to direct the military to detain or arrest lawbreakers during their deployment. Do they have that right?
HONIG: So the federal authorities do have DOJ does have the right to arrest and prosecute people if they break federal laws, but it's important to note
not every crime is a federal crime. So ordinary theft, for example, would not be a federal crime. That would be a state crime.
Most types of assaults would be state crimes, not federal crimes. Unless the assault is on a federal officer, that would make it a federal crime.
Similarly, if there's destruction of property or vandalism targeted at a federal building at a courthouse or a prison, that becomes a federal crime.
So most of the crimes that we're seeing that you would typically see in a protest type environment will be state crimes, but there absolutely could
be federal crimes committed in which case DOJ absolutely has the right to prosecute those cases. They've done it before and it's well within the
jurisdiction to do that.
GOLODRYGA: All right. Elie Honig, thank you as always --
HONIG: Thanks, Bianna.
GOLODRYGA: -- for breaking it down for us. Appreciate it.
HONIG: All right.
GOLODRYGA: Well, while we're on the subject of the U.S. military, later this afternoon, President Trump heads to Fort Bragg, ahead of Saturday's
big U.S. Army parade. We'll bring you his departure live and here from a political analyst, Seung Min Kim, on the signals that Trump is sending.
Well, at least nine people have lost their lives after a gunman opened fire at an Austrian school. Video from outside the school in Graz has surfaced
on social media. And we want to warn you, it is disturbing.
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GOLODRYGA: Just horrific. The victims were six females and three males. They were aged in age from 14 to 18 years old.
Austria's interior ministry says the shooter was a 21-year-old former student at the school. Police say the gunman took his own life at the
scene.
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GERALD ORTNER, DIRECTOR, STYRIAN STATE POLICE (through translator): This person was not known to us at the police. He owned the weapons as far as we
know at the moment, legally, meaning he had a gun ownership card.
Our information at the moment, we know that a shotgun and a handgun were used.
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GOLODRYGA: Let's go live to Austria now. We're joined by journalist Miha Oresnik from our affiliate N1.
Miha, what more are we learning about this tragic shooting?
MIHA ORESNIK, JOURNALIST, N1: Well, at five o'clock in the afternoon, local time, the city council is having a meeting. So how to handle this difficult
time for Graz all of Austria and the person that is still confirmed at 10, so eight students, one teacher and the shooter who was found at the school
toilet, the school is just behind me.
There are still 12 injured. Among them nine severely injured and two critically injured. They're in hospitals here in Graz.
The shooter was said 20-year-old living here near Graz and Austrian citizen. He had permits for the two guns, so one handgun and one rifle. He
came in the school right around 10 o'clock in the morning and started shooting in two classrooms.
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So the motive is still unknown. Some Austrian media are reporting that he was bullied when he was attending this school, but he never finished it. So
-- but this information is still not confirmed.
There is around 400 students altogether visiting this school. And the -- the authorities are saying that more than 300 needed medical and
psychological help after this horrific event that shocked the -- the country in Central Europe and also the whole region.
Three days of -- three days of mourning are now beginning in Austria and the flags are down to the half of the parts.
So, really, really said. The people I was talking here in Graz were saying that this is something they never expected to happen in Austria. Yes,
they've seen such scenes in America, but never or very rarely in this part of the world. So, it's a massive shock for this country in the Central
Europe.
GOLODRYGA: Yes. Sadly, these scenes are ones that we cover way too many times and way too often here in the United States. But as you note, a huge
shock to the entire country there in Austria.
Thank you so much, Miha, for joining us.
Well, there have been multiple explosions in southwest Colombia, including the city of Cali. The mayor of Cali says someone detonated explosive
devices near at least two police stations. Several people have reportedly been injured in the blast.
Now, this comes just days after a potential presidential candidate, Miguel Uribe, was shot in Bogota. At last check, Uribe remains in critical
condition.
And still to come for us, CNN follows a family in New York as their father is taken away by immigration officials.
And despite Donald Trump's crackdown on undocumented immigrants, he just keeps on gaining support among legal migrants. Harry Enten breaks down the
numbers for us after a quick break.
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GOLODRYGA: As the Trump administration cracks down on immigration, a growing number of migrants are being detained during appointments under
ICE's Intensive Supervision Appearance Program.
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The program is meant to let people remain in their communities while moving through U.S. immigration proceedings.
But as CNN's Maria Santana reports, some migrants are now being separated following regularly scheduled check-ins.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Mom, speak up to -- speak. What the (BLEEP) why are you being detained? Speak up. These people can't do nothing. Why --
MARIA SANTANA, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): An emotional scene in Lower Manhattan. This is where ICE houses its Intensive Supervision Appearance
Program, an alternative to detention, which requires immigrants to check in regularly.
Visiting this day is Jaen, a Colombian migrant. We're only using his and his family's first names to protect their identities.
His lawyer warned him that more and more people are being detained at these appointments. So Jaen is afraid of going in.
JAEN, COLOMBIAN IMMIGRANT (through translator): I'm very afraid to go in. They'll most likely separate me from my family in the most abrupt way as
has been happening.
SANTANA (voice-over): With him, his wife Ambar and 12-year-old daughter Aranza (ph). They're afraid too. They want to wish him luck, but it feels
more like a goodbye.
AMBAR, JAEN'S WIFE (through translator): All we ask is to stay together. I mean, we're not doing anything wrong.
SANTANA (voice-over): Ambar says the family entered the United States two years ago. Father, mother and daughter, all with asylum claims still
pending since then.
CNN has asked DHS about Jaen's case but has not yet heard back, though they told ABC News that those arrested had executable final orders of removal by
an immigration judge and had not complied with that order. But Ambar says her husband has no criminal record and has been to all of his appointments.
AMBAR (through translator): We've been doing the best we can.
SANTANA (voice-over): They grow anxious as agents start bringing people out, and between tears, a prayer, but to no avail.
Ambar can barely look, Jaen's lawyer says his stay of removal is pending, but she hasn't been able to get more information since he was detained.
Maria Santana, CNN, New York.
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GOLODRYGA: Donald Trump has spent much of his first months in office focused on the issue of undocumented migrants. He made it one of the
centerpieces of his campaign too. But despite the conventional wisdom that Trump's actions would hurt him with Latino voters, the exact opposite
actually happened.
Trump's share of the Latino vote has improved each time he has been on the ballot. And in 2024, his 42 percent mark among Latinos was reported to be a
record for a Republican candidate for president.
Our chief data analyst, Harry Enten, is here to explain it all. Harry, my friend, good to see you. And this is a trend, as we've noted, we've seen
every single time increase as the president has been on the ballot, especially among Latino men. Talk more about what the data shows.
HARRY ENTEN, CNN CHIEF DATA ANALYST: Yes. So you're focusing in on Latino and Latino men, which I believe he actually won last time around. But I
want to broaden it out to immigrants at large, right? Not just focusing on Latinos. And I just think that this trend line is so interesting and so
important because I think if you had spoken to me eight years ago or nine years ago, I would never have possibly expected the trend line and it just
kind of blows my mind.
So let's take a look at immigrant voters. And we're going to first look at the issue of immigration, all right? Who do they feel closer to or trust
more on immigration, immigrant voters?
You go back to 2020, you see Democrats. Look at this lead, Bianna, that Democrats had on this. A 32-point advantage.
Jump forward to 2024, 2025. Hello. What do we have here? We have an eight- point advantage, an eight-point advantage for Republicans. That is a 40- point shift to the Republicans on the issue of immigration among immigrant voters.
I never would have dreamed that they have become considerably more hawkish. They have become considerably closer to the Republican camp despite
everything that Donald Trump says.
And I think there's so much goes against the conventional wisdom that when Donald Trump is tough and promotes hawkish immigration policies against
undocumented immigrants, that legal immigrants, those here who are here legally, those who are voters would turn against them, the exact opposite
has happened. They've actually shifted towards the Republican column.
Now part of that is how they feel about immigrants who are in the country illegally. Let's take a look here, all right? This is the net favorable
rating of immigrants who are here illegally. And again, we're looking among immigrant voters.
You go back to 2020, you can see they were on the plus side of the ledger among immigrant voters, a plus 23-point net favorability rating. But look
at the trend line then in 2024.
Again, a massive shift. Now underwater minus six points with immigrant voters, immigrants who are here illegally.
Now, I will say that this does mirror some of the movement we've seen in the electorate at large, but this isn't even larger shift. And even larger
shift among immigrant voters about how they feel about immigrants who are here illegally.
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Now, we mentioned, of course, the feelings that immigrant voters feel about immigration, right? They're moved towards the Republican come. We've also
mentioned how they feel about immigrants who are in the country illegally. They have become less favorable towards them.
But then you wrap it all up, and how do they feel about Donald Trump? And this is the trend line that we sort of got in. You sort of gotten a little
bit in the intro about how they feel about Hispanic -- how Hispanic voters feel, but this is among immigrant voters in particular, all right? This is
the broad immigrant voters.
Take a look here. This is Trump's vote share in presidential elections. Look in 2016, 36 percent. You jump to 2020. Again, you see that jumped to
39 percent. Look at where they were in 2024, 47 percent of the vote.
I looked at a bunch of different surveys, Bianna. Some of them had Donald Trump barely losing among immigrant voters, and some of them, get this,
actually had him winning.
I went through the entire electorate. There is not another group of voters that I could find in which Donald Trump gained more ground, gained more
ground in 2024 versus 2020 and 2016 than among immigrant voters. And there is not a group of voters who shifted more to the right on the issue of
immigration overall than immigrant voters did.
Whatever Donald Trump is doing, immigrant voters are buying. And again, I just think this is so against the conventional wisdom. As I said the
beginning, it just blows my mind at what's going on here, but the numbers are the numbers are the numbers.
And I think this is part of the reason why Donald Trump is more than willing to take on that fight in Los Angeles.
GOLODRYGA: Yes, because conventional wisdom had always assumed, and this is what Democrats were banking on that as more immigrants made up a larger
swath of the population and the country became more diverse that they would lean towards Democrats. And that is not what you are showing right there.
And, Harry, I just want to ask about the -- the immigrants who are asked here and who are weighing in. These are voters who are both relatively new
and who have been here for many, many years, correct, a wide swath.
ENTEN: Yes. This is -- this is a wide swath of people. These are people who might have become naturalized in the last year. This might be -- this might
be immigrants who became naturalized in 1975.
So this includes a wide swath. These are not just people who are Latino, right? This can be people who are from Europe, from Africa, what have you.
But what I will note specifically among Latinos, we can -- you know, it's not just in this poll data that you sort of see this data, right?
You can see it along the southern border as well, the Rio Grande Valley, right? That's been massive gains for Donald Trump. I think one of those
counties down there, he lost by like 60 points in 2016 to Hillary Clinton, then actually won in 2024.
But it's not just in the south. You see it in New Jersey as well, right? Passaic County, a -- a very Hispanic County move very much towards Donald
Trump between 2024 and 2020. And you also see it as well in immigrant communities that are not necessarily Latino as well.
You see it for instance in Brighton Beach, right? Which is not a Latino necessarily community, but is an immigrant community. And again, you see
that massive shift. It just has happened across the map. It's again, not just in the polling data, it's in the actual election returns as well.
And again, I just think it is one of the most important movements because it gets to a point, everything that a lot of political scientists thought
about immigrants and how they perceive politics and how they would vote 10, 15 years ago, you can take that and throw it right out the window because
Donald Trump has actually cracked the code and proved a lot of those political scientists wrong.
GOLODRYGA: Which is why Republicans and the president themselves say, I have a mandate to do exactly what I'm doing.
Harry, we are going to leave it right there. And we were going to go to President Trump, who is speaking at the Oval Office and taking questions
about the scenes we're seeing play out in Los Angeles.
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DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: And they were taking that concrete, going up in bridges and dropping it into the roof of a car. They
were throwing it at our police. They were throwing it at our soldiers that are there. And we got it stopped and we have them in custody right now.
Look, if we didn't get involved, right now Los Angeles would be burning, just like it was burning a number of months ago with all the houses that
were lost.
Los Angeles right now would be on fire. And we have it in great shape. I'm not playing around.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How will you determine whether or not there is an insurrection?
TRUMP: Well, just take a look at what's happening. I mean, I could tell you there were certain areas of that -- of Los Angeles that's not -- you could
have called it an insurrection. It was terrible.
But these are paid insurrectionists. These are paid troublemakers. They get money. And when you take a look at what they do, where they show up and
everyone's saying, what's he doing? He's pounding the cubs. There's one guy, he's pounding the curb, breaking the curve and handing big pieces of
granite. In some cases, it's granite. Granite and concrete to other people. And they're running out with it. And then we watch the other people and
they try and throw it into the face of the soldiers, throw it into the face of the police, and they hit some people very badly.
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They go up on bridges, they drop it down on the cars as the cars are moving. They're not breaking the curb because they're doing the demolition
service. They're breaking it to hand out to people as a weapon. That's bad -- that's bad stuff. I've never seen that before.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Mr. President, how soon do you want to see FEMA eliminated? And what's your message to the governors about how much more in
expense it's going to hold a state?
TRUMP: Yes. Well, it's not going to be so much a state. We're going to give out less money. We're going to give it out directly. It'll be from the
President's office. We'll have somebody here. Could be Homeland Security, but we're going to give it out through a -- a method where it's given out.
As an example, I just gave out $71 million to a certain state. They were looking to do about 120. They were very happy with the $71 million.
We did a little cutting, and they -- they were very happy with it. So we're going to do it much differently.
We think after this, Kristi (ph), I'd say after the hurricane season, we'll start to do that.
KRISTI NOEM, U.S. SECRETARY OF HOMELAND SECURITY: Yes, sir. We've set up a FEMA council over the next couple of months. We'll be working on reforms
and what FEMA will look like in the future as a different agency, as under the Department of Homeland Security to the President's vision.
And it will empower governors to go out and respond to emergency situations. And that what the President does best is to make sure that the
taxpayers are only fulfilling the need to which is appropriate. And that people are responsible to respond to their own people closest to home, so -
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TRUMP: If a certain state, as an example, gets hit by a hurricane or -- that's what a governor -- you know, a governor should be able to handle it.
And frankly, if they can handle it, the aftermath, then maybe they shouldn't be governor.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And, Mr. President, when is the last time you spoke with Governor Newsom?
TRUMP: A day ago. Called him up to tell him, got to do a better job. He's doing a bad job, causing a lot of death and a lot of -- a lot of potential
death.
If we didn't send out the National Guard, and last time we gave him a little additional help, you would have -- Los Angeles would be burning
right now. Los Angeles would be not a lot different than what you saw take place in California in Los Angeles just a little while ago.
And, you know, you got to remember, we have the Olympics coming. And we don't want people looking at Los Angeles like it was -- like it would have
been. It would have been bad.
Last night, they had total control. If we didn't have the military in there, the National Guard, and then we also sent in some Marines. We had
some bad people. We had people, they look in your face and they spit right in your face. They're animals.
And these are paid insurrectionists. These are paid troublemakers. They're agitators. They're paid.
Do you think somebody walks up to a curb and starts hammering pieces out has all the equipment necessary and starts handing it out to people to use
as a weapon? These are paid insurrectionists or agitators or troublemakers. You can call it whatever you want. And we ended it, and we have in custody
some very bad people. Some very bad people.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Mr. President --
TRUMP: Did you see the guy throwing the rocks at the police cars as they went by and crushing their windows and endangering our police? We're not
going to let that happen. Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Pardon. Mr. President, on those Marines, Governor Newsom has described them as political pawns. I'm curious for your reaction then.
And what you see is the Marines' role? And what are their rules of engagement?
TRUMP: All I want is safety. I just want a safe area. We have -- Los Angeles was under siege until we got there. The police were unable to
handle it. You can speak to the chief. He said it on television three nights ago, he said, this is more than we can handle. They said that.
And the L.A. police, I know a lot of the police in L.A., they're good -- they're great people, but they give it instructions not to do this, not to
do that. But in this case, they were trying their best. They were not able to handle it. It was out of control.
When we got there, and I -- you have to remember, I've been here before. And I went right by every rule. And I waited for governors to say, send in
the National Guard. They wouldn't do it. They wouldn't do it. And they just wouldn't do it. And he kept going on and on. Got worse and worse.
And in Minneapolis, that city was burning down. It's seven days. And I said, I don't care. The governor, who's a governor that just happened to be
running for Vice President in total, you talk about an incompetent governor, he's an incompetent person that he was picked. Well, I was
actually very happy he was picked for other reasons.
But this guy wouldn't call the National Guard. And we ultimately just sent in the National Guard. We stopped it. But that was after seven days. And I
said to myself, if that stuff happens again, we've got to make faster decisions, because they don't want to do it.
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The radical left -- it's usually radical left. And it's usually governors that are Democrat, and they don't want to call them in. They don't want to
save lives. They don't want to save property. They don't want to call them in. I don't know what it is. We sent them in, not early. We sent them in
late, as far as I'm concerned.
But big problems, as you know, three nights ago, big problems were ensuing. If we didn't send in the National Guard quickly, right now, Los Angeles
would be burning to the ground.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The Marines, a lot of people think an escalatory step, though. These are guys who fight wars. Are you at all concerned that things
could get out of hand with Marines?
TRUMP: When I see people throwing concrete into cars, when I see people -- the kind of people that I saw on your network doing danger to the police
and to the military and to the National Guard, now, it's OK, you know, you start running out of people.
And you have 2,000 people from this -- a National Guard standpoint. We have a very big military. But the National Guard, they needed a little extra
help. And we sent them a little. And we did a great job last night. We had -- well, they got a lot of cars go up in smoke and flame. And a lot of bad
scenes. But it was -- it was pretty minor by comparison.
This morning, it's very calm. We'll see what happens later. But they know, if they go there, they're not going to get anywhere, because we have the
National Guard. Then we backed it up with a number of Marines.
Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Mr. President, do you agree with Governor Abbott soon signing legislation to mandate the 10 Commandments in school classrooms?
TRUMP: Having to do with what?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Governor Abbott soon going to assign legislation to mandate the display of the 10 Commandments in school classrooms? Do you
support that?
TRUMP: I -- I have to take a look at it. I'm going to have to look at it.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Will the National Guard be in California indefinitely? How long will I be there until you think that --
TRUMP: Until there's no danger. It's easy. Look, it's common sense. You asked me that question. When there's no danger, they'll leave.
You would have had a horrible situation had I not sent them and horrible. You'd be reporting on a lot of death and a lot of destruction that's not
going to take place. I think if you look every night, it got less and less, they were met with very strong force of bad people, the bad sick people
that do what they do. But these are paid people, in many cases. Not in all cases, but in many cases. And they really are. They're agitators.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I was wondering if you had any response to Mexican President Sheinbaum, who condemned the violence there. Have you been in
touch with her at all?
TRUMP: Said what?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I was wondering if you had any response to what Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum said in response.
TRUMP: What did she say?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She condemned the violence in L.A.
TRUMP: Oh, I do, too.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. Have you been in touch with her at all?
TRUMP: Well, you think I don't condemn it? I condemn the violence in L.A., ladies and gentlemen. But I also stopped the violence in L.A. And by doing
what I did, I stopped the violence in L.A.
And that would have been, I think, maybe I'd ask Kristi to speak to that. That would have been an unbelievable tragedy. We would be talking -- I
don't know that we would even be here right now. It would have been so bad. I'd probably maybe be out there. I don't know.
But, Kristi, could you speak to that?
NOEM: Absolutely. So in 2020, I was a governor of a neighboring state to Tim Walz and watched him let his city burn. And the president and I have
talked about this in the past. And he was not going to let that happen to another city and to another community where a bad governor made a bad
decision.
So Claudia Sheinbaum came out and encouraged more protests in L.A. And I condemn her for that. She should not be encouraging violent protests that
are going on.
If people are allowed to peacefully protest, but the violence that we're seeing is not acceptable and it's not going to happen in America. This
president is standing up for the average American who wants to walk their child to school every day safely, run their small business, and provide for
their families. That's the action that he's taken.
He has every authority under the Constitution to send these National Guard under Title 10 into these communities and make sure that operations go
smoothly, that law enforcement officers are protected, that they can continue to go their work, do their work without fear of being injured or
killed or disrespected, and that they can go home to their families at night.
So I'm incredibly proud of the president for activating the National Guard and for sending in these Marines, because these Marines are specifically
trained to meet the need that we have on the ground in L.A. right now.
And Governor Newsom has done a disservice to the status of California for many years. The people there should never elect him into a leadership
position ever again. He clearly --
TRUMP: The governor is a nice guy but he's grossly incompetent.
NOEM: He's terrible.
TRUMP: When it comes to his railroad that he's building where it's like 30 times over budget, nobody's ever seen anything like it. Now, it doesn't
even go to San Francisco and L.A. It's way short of it.
After years of work and overruns like nobody's -- those contractors are some of the wealthiest people in the world, I guarantee you that. Because
that money goes to those contractors. They just -- they just did a number on the wallet of the people of California.
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That train, you should look at that train. That is the great, I've never seen cost overruns. I've seen cost overruns and great incompetence over my
life. I've never seen anything like that.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Mr. President, these protests obviously started in reaction to these large scale ICE operations in Los Angeles. Should people
expect to see similar operations in the rest of the country --
TRUMP: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: -- and we'll still have a protest in similar response?
TRUMP: As you know, we're moving murderers out of our country that were put here by Biden, or the autopen. The autopen really did. The people, whether
it's Lisa Monaco or whoever operated the autopen. These are criminals. People are criminals that allowed these criminals into our country.
And I don't think that Biden knew what the hell he was doing. I -- I don't think he even knew about it. But when they opened up our borders for the
whole world to come in, yes, we're going to get them out. We're getting them out. We're starting to get acknowledgement from the courts that, you
know, is a system.
They come in without courts and they go out to have to -- they want trials and everything else. I think that's starting to work out now. Judges are
starting to see what a terrible situation is.
Many of those people that you saw on television last night are criminals that were allowed into our country by Biden. And they want to stay. And we
don't want them. And they come from jails and they come from mental institutions. And they come from all over the world, not just South
America.
And we're not going to let them stay. And this is the first, perhaps, of many or perhaps, you know, if we didn't attack this one very strongly,
you'd have them all over the country. But I can inform the rest of the country that when they do it, if they do it, they're going to be met with
equal or greater force than we met right here.
We did a great job. The people, you, Kristi and Tom Homan and all of the people, Pete Hegseth, all of the people involved did an amazing job. We
stopped a disaster. And it looks like a planned disaster. Not just this didn't just happen. They had weapons, they had tools, they had everything
you needed.
I mean, they were throwing iced water in bottles, in glass bottles at officers and at soldiers. These are -- you could not use the word
insurrection, but you could also use the word. These are very dangerous people, they're bad people. They were met with heavy force and they folded.
And they may be there a little bit tonight, and they may be there a little bit. But it seems to be getting less and less because they're going there
and they're met with a very heavy force. And if they weren't, you would have that city right now would be on fire. It would be burning down the
rest of it once left over.
Because the other fire was started because they wouldn't allow water into L.A. They wouldn't allow water into California because they had it all
shifted out to the Pacific Ocean. And I turned it around and I told them to do it in my first term. And they didn't do it.
We had COVID and they didn't do it. And I told them to do it. We did it in a second. Now we have billions of gallons of water flowing down. But Newsom
should have done this. He's an incompetent man and incompetent governor.
OK. Any other questions?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Any message to the adversaries (INAUDIBLE)
TRUMP: I just think it's amazing. We're going to have a fantastic June 14th parade Flag Day. It's going to be an amazing day. We have planes. We have
all sorts of things. And I think it's going to be great. We're going to celebrate our country for a change.
You know, recently, as you know, with World War II, the victory of World War II, I called up France and they were celebrating the victory. Well, we
helped them a lot, as you know. I don't have to get into that.
But I called up other countries that were all celebrating the victory. We're the only country that didn't celebrate the victory. And we're the one
that won the war. OK. If it wasn't for us that war, you would be speaking German right now. OK. We won the war. And you might be speaking Japanese
too. I mean, you might be speaking a -- a combination about.
We won the war and we're the only country that didn't celebrate it. And we're going to be celebrating big on Saturday. We're going to have a lot of
-- and if there's any protests that once they come out, they will be met with very big force.
By the way, for those people that want to protest, they're going to be met with very big force. And I haven't even heard about a protest. But, you
know, this is people that hate our country, but they will be met with very heavy force.
Thank you very much, everybody. Thank you.
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GOLODRYGA: All right. We've been listening to the president taking some questions there in the Oval Office about his decision to send in both the
National Guard and now Marines to quell some of the protests that we'd seen transpire over the last four days in Los Angeles.
The president's saying, if we didn't get involved, Los Angeles would be on fire. He also said that he spoke with Governor Newsom yesterday and again
told reporters that he just thought he was not handling the situation at all the way it should be.
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I want to bring in CNN political analyst and White House reporter for "The Associated Press," Seung Min Kim. And you've been listening, Seung Min, to
the president as well. He is doubling down on his decision and saying that it is incompetent local officials there in the state that have allowed for
these protests to grow.
And then he also acknowledged that they have actually diminished over the past few days and have quieted down. Of course, he's attributing this to
his decision to send in the National Guard and the Marines.
I don't know if you listened to my conversation with Harry Enten prior to these few minutes with the president in the Oval Office, but this seems to
be polling well for the president among immigrant voters.
How is the president, do you think, viewing this latest back and forth between the governor of California Gavin Newsom and his administration?
SEUNG MIN KIM, CNN POLITICAL ANALYST: I mean, the president really sees this as an issue where he does have the political upper hand, which is why
you see so many members of his administration really go at the immigrant raids in -- in California and the ensuing protests really aggressively.
They feel that immigration and particularly his promise to engage in mass deportations of people here with that legal status, they see that as one of
the signature issues that defy not just his 2016 campaign, but the 2024 campaign that got him back to the White House.
So this is something that they -- you will continue to hear about it. I thought one of the really interesting things from that gaggle with
reporters just now in the Oval Office and something that we're going to be continuing to watch is that he is not ruling out this type of action for
other states.
Obviously, the president's immigration officials are under extreme pressure to continue the pace or even speed up the pace of deportations, which means
we will likely see these types of raids in other cities.
But you've already seen massive protests siding with immigrant rights group and immigration who are targeted against these raids in other cities, such
as Chicago and Boston. So we could -- so this could -- this could really escalate to other cities around the country. And I know that's something
that my reporter -- my colleagues at "The Associated Press" will be watching and reporting on very closely.
GOLODRYGA: Right. And we heard from the mayor of Los Angeles say repeatedly over the last 24 hours that Los Angeles, the second largest city in the
country, in her view, is a test case for what this administration may be planning to do in other cities and states and the governor, Gavin Newsom --
KIM: Right.
GOLODRYGA: -- who is suing the president for sending in the National Guard and now the Marines, he says, without his ask for that, says this is an
unmistakable step towards authoritarianism.
The president repeatedly, it was interesting, Seung Min, said that these are paid insurrectionists. And I'm wondering if you have any reporting that
would confirm that. We heard that from DHS Secretary Noem as well. He said not all, but repeatedly that -- that some of these protesters were paid to
be there.
KIM: So the president has not offered up any evidence to make such assertions. I know our reporters, my colleagues at "The Associated Press"
and others elsewhere are looking into those allegations, but local officials say this is something these -- these protests are something that
began out of -- of the -- the -- out of the raids of the -- of the Immigration and Customs Enforcement raids that began in L.A.'s fashion
districts and at a Home Depot over the weekend.
Obviously, there were parts of the protests that did get out of control. We've seen the images on television of what the city of Los Angeles or what
parts of the city of Los Angeles had to go through.
But local law enforcement say -- I mean, obviously they were overwhelmed at times as the LAPD police chief admitted, but they say that local officials
did basically have it under control, which is why his move, the president's move to overrule California governor Gavin Newsom to federalize the
National Guard and send in California National Guard troops is such a remarkable move.
And the state of California is lawsuit and what the courts say and what the -- and what the court say and what legal theories are testing and how
judges ultimately rule will be a really fascinating case. And -- and -- and it's unclear how that's going to -- it's going to end for either side.
GOLODRYGA: Yes. And Elie Honig says that this case was filed in California and federal court in California. One would imagine if the decision of the
court is not one that the president agrees with, that it will no doubt obviously be appealed.
What else is notable is the president said when asked how long he plans to keep the Marines in the National Guard there? He said, as long as there or
until there is no danger.
And we did get officials from the Pentagon answering the question that Pete Hegseth seemed to -- to tap dance around as he's been testifying before
Congress today as to how much this is costing the U.S. government to send the additional Marines there as well as the National Guard. And that is
about $134 million.
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Do you think there is an opportunity here for Democrats who have really been pressed against the wall in, A, condemning these actions but also
quick to condemn the violence that has ensued and also the support of the arrest and detention of violent criminals who are undocumented?
KIM: Well, certainly Democrats are -- can make the case and are already making the case that this seems to be a waste of money by the Trump
administration, which is an administration that has made cost cutting through the Department of Government Efficiency formerly -- formerly led by
Elon Musk that has made cutting government spending such a key part of its administration's goals.
And that is a lot of money. You're talking about upwards of 4,000 National Guard troops and 700 Marines who are there to assist the National Guard
members. That is a lot of, you know, that is a lot of military personnel to support and care for, making sure that a lot of resources to expend that
Democrats, I'm sure, will argue could be better -- better funneled elsewhere, particularly as President Trump has said in his own words, as we
saw in his conversation with reporters that things in L.A. have calmed down.
And so I -- so I think, you know, obviously, the President is signaling that he is willing to keep the military in there indefinitely. There's no
end date to that for now. But I do think questions will certainly arise soon as to why those personnel are being kept there when things do seem to
be calmer.
GOLODRYGA: Yes. And if things do calm down, which we all hope they do, I'm not sure the President would like the split screen of continued unrest and
the visuals of Marines and National Guard going into this weekend, especially on Saturday, when there will be that big parade commemorating
the 250th anniversary of the U.S. Army coinciding with Flag Day, also coinciding with the President's birthday.
Before we let you go, I do want to ask what you make of the fact that he has yet to invoke the Insurrection Act. We have some reporting suggesting
that they are indeed mulling doing just that. He wanted to do that in -- in 2020 during the protests then.
And he was convinced otherwise that doesn't seem to be the case right now. He is surrounded by people who are supporting the decisions that he's
making.
What do you make of the fact that he hasn't done that yet?
KIM: Well, it was really interesting what he said, again, in the Oval Office that if there is an insurrection that he would go ahead and invoke
that law from 1807. And then that he was asked, well, do you think there's an insurrection now? And he said, well, it could amount to what's happening
in parts of L.A. could amount to an insurrection.
But I do think while we know that that is an option under consideration by the President, by the White House, it is a significant step, and one that
he didn't take in 2020 because of the public objections of people like his then Defense Secretary Mark Esper.
But right now, you're not seeing those similar types of internal restraints coming from his own advisors.
Pete Hegseth, his Defense Secretary now has said, you know, all sorts of military personnel will be ready to stand and assist in these operations.
I certainly think that this is something that we should be watching out for --
GOLODRYGA: Yes.
KIM: -- for the next several days. But also he -- he does say the situation is calmer. So again, you have to ask the President, well, why are
you invoking this now if he does -- if the situation --
GOLODRYGA: Yes.
KIM: -- has calmed down.
GOLODRYGA: All right. Seung Min Kim, we'll have to leave it there. Thank you so much.
And we'll be right back.
KIM: Thanks for having me.
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GOLODRYGA: All right. That does it for this hour of "One World." I'm Bianna Golodryga. Thanks so much for watching. Don't go anywhere. I'll be right
back with "Amanpour" after the break.
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