Return to Transcripts main page

One World with Zain Asher

Curfew Expires In Downtown L.A. Amid Immigration Raid Protests; California Governor Slams Trump: "Democracy Is Under Assault"; Mike Huckabee: "No Room" For Two-State Solution; Officials: Masked Rioters Attack Police, Burn Homes; U.S., China Say They Agreed On A Framework For Deal; Determined Dentist To Make His U.S. Open Debut; Aired 12-1p ET

Aired June 11, 2025 - 12:00   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.

[12:00:14]

ZAIN ASHER, CNN ANCHOR: An overnight curfew quells troubles in L.A. but protests are spreading around the country.

BIANNA GOLODRYGA, CNN ANCHOR: "One World" continues right now.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

GOV. GAVIN NEWSOM (D-CA): California may be first but it clearly will not end here. Other states are next. Democracy is next.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GOLODRYGA: California Governor Gavin Newsom accuses President Trump of abusing his power. And now Texas is activating the National Guard as ICE

protests spread to more cities.

ASHER: And a deal is done. President Trump hails a deal to ease exports, restrictions from China. We'll break down the details.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

MATT VOGT, 34-YEAR-OLD DENTIST MAKING U.S. OPEN DEBUT: It's never too late or there's no reason you can't pursue your dreams at any point in your life

or try to do something that other people might think is foolish or a waste of your time.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GOLODRYGA: A career change straight into the driving range. The never-give- up story of the dentist who played his way into this week's U.S. Open.

ASHER: Coming to you live from Los Angeles, I'm -- well, from New York. Let's talk about Los Angeles. From New York. I do know where I am.

From New York, I'm Zain Asher.

GOLODRYGA: I never worried. I'm Bianna Golodryga. You are watching the second hour of "One World."

And speaking of Los Angeles, a curfew for a small section of Downtown L.A. has been lifted following a fifth night of protests.

ASHER: Mayor Karen Bass says the majority of the hundreds of arrests that police made on Tuesday were for unlawful assembly. Despite that, active

duty U.S. Marines are on standby, poised to join 4,000 National Guard troops already on the ground.

Well, the Attorney General warns, the administration is, quote, not scared to go further. But state and local officials, including L.A.'s police

chief, say the protests do not warrant military force.

GOLODRYGA: Meanwhile, the demonstrations sparked by immigration raids are spreading across the country. And members of the Texas National Guard are

said to be deployed to various locations around the state ahead of planned protests this weekend.

ASHER: CNN's Josh Campbell joins us live now from Los Angeles.

So, Josh, we're in the situation whereby you have the president essentially sending National Guard and Marines to L.A., even though you have Gavin

Newsom saying that they were not consulted, the city was not consulted at all. The governor was not consulted at all. And, normally, there's supposed

to be some kind of coordination between the state, obviously, and the federal government.

And then you have the situation whereby, according to L.A. officials and California officials, the deployment of the National Guard on the ground

and the Marines training just outside the city is making a bad situation, a problematic situation even worse.

Give us your take on what is happening on the ground there.

JOSH CAMPBELL, CNN SECURITY CORRESPONDENT: Yes, great to be with you.

You know, it's never a good thing when politics and public safety come into tension. This is a full-on collision. You have this battle of words that's

taking place in public between President Donald Trump and the state's governor here, Gavin Newsom, because they have very different agendas.

Obviously, the president looked at some of the protests here. His administration decided that they didn't believe that local officials were

doing enough. And so, as you mentioned, he did federalize the state's National Guard in order to protect federal property here in California.

But it's an important point that you mentioned, one that I hear so often from law enforcement sources here on the ground. They're concerned that the

very presence of military troops here in L.A. is actually fueling a lot of the protests that we've seen serving as an accelerant, if you will.

While officials are trying to get this under control, they believe that -- that they can and then, you know, have gotten it under control,

particularly with the institution of a curfew last night.

They continue to say that, you know, sending additional forces, particularly active duty U.S. Marines to Los Angeles will only make this go

on for even longer.

GOLODRYGA: Josh, we're so lucky to have you here at CNN for a number of reasons. But in light of this specific story, you have a background in law

enforcement. Just from your own personal expertise, tell us what is and isn't warranted at this time in terms of presence, military presence on the

ground.

CAMPBELL: Well, you know, it's -- thank you for the compliment. It's -- you know, it's interesting because the president is saying that the National

Guard kept Los Angeles from being completely obliterated in his view, which does not square with the facts.

In fact, the National Guard here isn't really doing that much. They're standing guard outside of a federal building downtown. They've been seen

protecting immigration agents as they're around town.

But all of the public safety effort we're seeing to try to get this under control is largely coming from local police. And that's important because

the police are the ones who are highly trained in crowd control and de- escalation and using non-lethal force in order to try to quell any potential, you know, uprisings that we've seen here.

[12:05:17]

The military doesn't get that same type of training. In fact, as you mentioned, we've seen on helicopter affiliate footage around Los Angeles

where you see Marines that are actually training for, you know, crowd control because they don't have that type of training. They're undergoing

that right now. We're seeing them on video, you know, practicing arrests, practicing, you know, detaining people and the like.

It's just a volatile situation when you have Marines whose job, you know, on a normal day is working overseas, you know, in wars and, you know, often

using lethal force to have them now on the streets of the city interacting with fellow citizens.

I hear from law enforcement sources here every day. I've heard since these kicked off on Friday, these protests. That is a potential recipe for

disaster when you have that type of force that's coming in that's not trained. It could go south pretty quickly.

ASHER: All right. Josh Campbell, live for us there. Thank you so much.

We'll actually have much more on President Trump's decision to send in troops to various cities later on this hour.

All right. The U.S. is ramping up the pressure on Israel to end the war in Gaza.

GOLODRYGA: Donald Trump spoke to Benjamin Netanyahu by phone on Monday and a source confirms that besides calling for a quick end to the war, the U.S.

also told the Israeli Prime Minister to stop talking about an attack on Iran.

ASHER: On the ground in Gaza, hospitals officials say that dozens of Palestinians were killed by gunfire at two locations earlier today.

Hungry residents have often ignored Israel's warnings to not assemble near aid distribution site. Israel says it is reviewing the incidents.

Meantime, Mike Huckabee, a strong defender of Israel, who once argued that there was, quote, no such thing as a Palestinian, is making some rather

striking statements about the future of a Palestinian state.

GOLODRYGA: Yes. The U.S. Ambassador to Israel said that a two-state solution is no longer a goal of U.S. policy as it has been for decades

under both Republican and democratic administrations.

He spoke to Bloomberg News in Jerusalem this week and suggests that a Palestinian state could be carved out of a Muslim country.

And the last hour, we spoke to U.S. State Department spokesperson Tammy Bruce about these remarks.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

TAMMY BRUCE, U.S. STATE DEPARTMENT SPOKESPERSON: I'm not going to parse or remark on what Ambassador Huckabee would be saying.

What I can tell you is what the White House certainly has reiterated and what I've reiterated over, well, certainly since taking this role in

January, is that the president is determined to stop the carnage in Gaza.

Clearly, the United States has led the way through Special Envoy Witkoff to deal with the parties involved in this dynamic and to make sure that the

carnage ends.

This is obviously a generational issue and the president has stepped up and has been very clear that he wants this to end and he's called for the

region to come up with new ideas.

And, of course, the region has stepped up to do that. So this is certainly a regional issue. The United States is focused on a ceasefire because

nothing can happen.

No other considerations or moving forward can happen until all of this stops.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GOLODRYGA: Let's dig deeper. Aaron David miller is a former U.S. State Department Middle East negotiator. He's now a senior fellow with the

Carnegie Endowment for International Peace and joins us now from Washington.

It was great to have Tammy Bruce on. We asked her a couple of times about whether, in fact, the ambassador was speaking out of line or freelancing or

speaking for U.S. policy. She wouldn't answer yes or no, but you know how this works. If he wasn't speaking for the U.S. government, there would have

been a quick walk back, perhaps a reprimand. He would have said he was misstated.

The fact that that didn't happen tells you what?

AARON DAVID MILLER, FORMER U.S. STATE DEPARTMENT MIDDLE EAST NEGOTIATOR: I think it tells me that Trump administration right now has other priorities.

They're not interested in, number one, a contradictory or undermining Mike Huckabee or angering his evangelical base.

They also need Benjamin Netanyahu's approval on what may be, guys, I mean, may. Israeli-Palestinian negotiations generally have two speeds, slow and

slower, but you may be seeing a shift toward the possibility of another incremental deal.

So dealing with the issue of Palestinian statehood right now is simply, frankly, from an analytical point of view, it's not a priority. And the

Europeans are doing it. The Saudis and the French are going to convene a conference in New York on the two-state solution.

I'd only add on this that Mike Huckabee generally believes what he said. I mean, he's the first evangelical minister to represent the United States in

Jerusalem.

But Mike Huckabee is not going to determine the policy of the Trump administration on this or any other matter. If Donald Trump believes that

endorsement of Palestinian statehood and not somewhere else but in a part of the West Bank will get him what he -- what he wants or what he needs, I

have no doubt as he did in Trump 1.0 that he'd be willing to utter the words of Palestinian state, constrained, constricted, probably not accepted

all of the Palestinians.

[12:10:30]

So I think right now that just the timing for engaging on this issue frankly is just not right.

ASHER: When you think about the full context of what he said and obviously, Aaron, you're right, I mean this is not something that he hasn't said

before in some way, shape or form.

When you think about the context of what he said, just this idea of not necessarily believing in a Palestinian state, that it's a nice idea in

theory but, you know, you've got to be realistic. He talked about actually carving out land from Arab states instead to make a state for the

Palestinians.

I mean this idea of displacing Palestinians yet again, I mean just talk to us about the likely reaction or the reaction that we have seen among Arab

states just in terms of further adding fuel to the fire in terms of tensions.

MILLER: Yes. I mean look, this is not -- this is not an administration. I had 27 years Department of State working for Republicans and democratic

secretary of State. I voted for Democrats and Republicans.

This is, in consideration, some partisan comment if you want. This is not an administration that cares greatly about humanitarian assistance,

American values.

Donald Trump's not interested in the humanitarian situation. Gaza unless it proves to be an -- a recurring embarrassing to him or unless it stands in

the way of something that he wants to achieve.

The only conceivable thing would be sometime down the road in Israeli-Saudi normalization agreement. But right now, they're not interested in taking on

this issue.

And I think, yes, it does reflect to say to least a certain degree of insensitivity. They have enabled and presided over humanitarian catastrophe

in Gaza.

I mean, some aid to Gaza is better than none. So the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation delivering some is better than none. But it is not the way to

surge humanitarian assistance into a deeply aggrieved Palestinian population.

And they've done very little in terms of pushing on this issue with respect to the -- to the Netanyahu government.

So, again, yes, I mean it reflects a certain degree of insensitivity and -- and lack of concern. But again, if in fact circumstances changed, if the

war in Gaza came to an end, if in fact there was an opening to actually secure some sort of regional peace, I think Trump administration would

probably pivot and come around at least to endorsing in theory and in part the idea of a Palestinian state.

GOLODRYGA: When you say now is not the time to talk about that given the state of the war right now and the fact that it doesn't appear we're

anywhere closer or at least to a concrete ceasefire and hostage deal, does that -- are you speaking just to the United States policy or does that also

refer to this planned U.N. conference where a number of U.S. allies are set to propose just that?

MILLER: Well, the Israelis and Palestinians, over the course of their conflict, have inflicted an extraordinary degree of pain and trauma in one

another. But nothing that we've seen, nothing that we've seen even begins to come close to the events of October 7, the willful and discriminated

killing, sexual predation, mutilation taking of hostages on Hamas as part, or the incredibly ferocious Israeli response with a calculation made that

risk transfer that to get it Hamas to prosecute the war.

The numbers of innocent civilians that the Israelis were prepared to accept as deaths and injuries skyrocketed. You're dealing with two traumatized

communities who ultimately when the war ends are going to look at one another and they're going to say, you know, the problem is not that we

don't understand one another. The problem is that we understand one another only too well.

In Israel, you have Benny Gantz, you have Yair Lapid representing the center and center of left. They don't even talk about Palestinian state

because on the Israeli side, it is a concept that right now is simply untethered from the realities that Israelis have been experiencing.

And on the Palestinian side, the choice for most Palestinians between Mahmoud Abbas and Hamas is a extraordinarily poor choice. So again, I -- I

think in my judgment, the only solution to this conflict is separation through negotiations.

[12:15:10]

But to do that, to have any chance of doing that, you need what you do not have in Israel, what you do not have on the Palestinian side. And arguably,

I would say, having worked for a half dozen secretaries of state administrations of both political parties. You don't have the kind of

leadership that you need in Washington as well and that makes two states. You can't give up on it, but at the same time to prioritize it right now,

is going to lead to it at end.

GOLODRYGA: Yes. Pretty sobering take from a man who knows the region and how these negotiations work all too well.

Aaron David Miller, thank you.

ASHER: OK. We are following --

MILLER: I wish it were in some way, truly --

GOLODRYGA: Yes, yes.

ASHER: We are following a major unrest in one Northern Ireland town where officials say that hundreds of masked rioters, for two consecutive nights,

set fire to homes and cars and attacked police in a town of Ballymena.

GOLODRYGA: Yes. Police are investigating the attack on properties as racially motivated hate crimes.

CNN's Nic Robertson has covered Northern Ireland extensively for decades. He joins us live now from London.

So, Nic, I mean, just talked to us about the genesis of these protests because they started off as protests against sexual attack, sexual assault

on a young girl by two young boys.

And it's since sort of morphed into these sort of wider anti-immigrant protests because the two suspects are of foreign descent. Just walk us

through that.

NIC ROBERTSON, CNN INTERNATIONAL DIPLOMATIC EDITOR: Yes. And, you know, according to media reports in Northern Ireland, the BBC being among them,

that the reason that the local community think that the two teenage boys who the police have -- who the police have arrested were spoken to through

a Romanian interpreter. That's the language that's being used.

What has happened in this community here, a community that is a heavily protestant community. It is a -- it's a community that sort of turns and

looks for its political leadership to the right wings on the political spectrum.

The vigil that was happening for this young girl who said she was sexually assaulted, the police say on Monday evening that's part of the crowd broke

away. And then they began throwing rocks, Molotov cocktails, petrol bombs at the police that violence escalated last night.

It was 17 police last night who were injured, 15, who were injured Monday night. The police responded with attenuating energy projectiles. That's the

new word it seems for baton rounds, those -- those rubber bullets, if you will, that bounce off the ground at protesters.

Also, water cannon was used. The police used their armored vehicles to drive through burning barricades.

But it has -- it has touched and inflamed an issue here that local politicians there, at least in that community, are pointing to an

immigration issue. And -- and the target of some of this violence was the house where local immigrants lived.

Now, some people took to putting flags on their doors, Filipinos, trying to explain to attackers whether they work in the local health service, that

they are part of the local community, in a way to try to sort of, you know, get mercy from the attackers.

I was speaking to a Belfast politician here in London earlier today, Claire Hanna, whose own constituency saw race riots earlier this year. And she is

extremely concerned that this could expand and grow.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

CLAIRE HANNA, LOCAL POLITICIAN: We can't get away that this is thuggery. There's been live streaming of -- of -- of the -- of the rioting. It is

want and aggression, violence, destruction of property, and intimidation of people. We've seen the horrific site of ethnic minorities putting flags and

explanations on their doors saying that they're a healthcare worker or that they work in a local factory and effectively, you know, pleading mercy.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

ROBERTSON: So, there's a couple of reasons here why there's this concern that it could spread, last night, the second night of Ballymena, there was

also rioting similar to this in Belfast, Newtownabbey, Lisbon, a couple of other locations in Northern Ireland.

But we're also now, Northern Ireland is also going into what's known as the marching season, which is sort of a legacy of the sectarian troubles, if

you will, but it is the month in the year where there is likely to be the most street violence.

And the concern is that this will just sort of morph into an extension of - - of the protests that are often seen at this time of year and therefore will continue and maybe spread even.

ASHER: And that is incredible. The fact that people have to sort of justify, you know, if they're foreign, they now feel they need to justify

their presence in Northern Ireland by putting an explanation on their door. Listen, I'm Filipino, but I'm here, I'm helping the local economy, I work

in healthcare. Please don't attack me. I mean, it is unbelievable what we're seeing on the ground in Northern Ireland.

[12:20:06]

Nic Robertson, live for us there. Thank you.

GOLODRYGA: And we'll have more news after a break.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

ASHER: All right. We're capping our top story. President Trump has deployed the National Guard and Marines to California against the wishes of the

governor and the L.A. mayor.

GOLODRYGA: Yes. CNN senior political reporter Stephen Collinson says since Donald Trump is taking step to justify using the U.S. military all over the

country.

Stephen writes, Trump is conjuring a narrative of invasion and insurrection. He's exaggerating disorder. And he's implying that to keep

the country safe, he's ready to deploy soldiers across the country.

And Stephen Collinson joins us now. And, Stephen, I would go even a bit further by finishing that sentence, so brilliantly written as always and

thoughtful by you, by saying that the president is sort of daring in the opposition in his way to -- to do just that, to -- to stand in his way.

He really does think that not only does he have the power to do this, but he has the support of the majority of the country or if nothing else, his

voters.

STEPHEN COLLINSON, CNN POLITICS SENIOR REPORTER: Yes. So I think that's right. And it is very, I think, you know, it fits with Trump's instincts.

He likes to show force. He wants to use every accoutrement of the presidency to establish his dominance.

And in this case, what he's done is he's exaggerated the crisis in Los Angeles, which is quite well contained within a few city blocks. And he's

creating this narrative that the city is on fire, that he's stopped it from being burnt to the ground, and therefore, the remedy to restore public

order is the introduction of troops. That is something that is very familiar from autocratic nations in Latin America or Asia or the Middle

East.

So to some extent here, I think the president is playing with fire. It's a political image that he likes, that he's strong, that he's responding, that

his supporters like.

But he's also lifting the lid on tensions and exacerbating tensions. And when protests start and you put troops in the middle of those protests,

things can mushroom in ways that you cannot control and that aren't predictable and can have very grave consequences.

[12:25:04]

ASHER: I mean, and it goes beyond that because he's also calling, essentially intimating that Governor Newsom should be arrested.

And when you think about the parade that is set to take place on Saturday, he is telling people not to protest in Washington, D.C., not to protest the

military parade, which also coincides with his birthday. And, you know, there's so -- there's so many sort of hints and sparks of authoritarianism

in that as well.

I mean, just give us your take on just all of these protests that we're seeing around the country, particularly in L.A., coinciding with what we're

about to see on Saturday this military parade in Washington, D.C.

COLLINSON: Yes. What is happening is that the U.S. Army, whose 250th birthday it is, has now been dragged into this highly politicized

situation. Yesterday, the president went down to one of the biggest military bases in the country of Fort Bragg in North Carolina, stood in

front of mass ranks of troops and delivered an exceedingly politicized message, talking about the need to use military force on domestic U.S.

soil.

This is something we haven't seen before for generations. It's something that's completely antithetical with Republican-Democratic government. Now,

you can argue, and some people do, that you shouldn't take Trump literally, that a lot of this is hyperbole. It's for political effect.

But cash in mind back five years, what we're seeing now is not that much different from what Trump did after the election in 2020, when he spread

this false conspiratorial narrative that the election was stolen, that resulted in a real insurrection, one against the U.S. Capitol building by

his supporters, and that, in its turn, created a base for his political comeback.

So he is a very skilled demagogue. I would argue he's the most skilled demagogue in American history. And he is unleashing forces that could lead

to quite a dark place when you consider how his last presidency ended.

GOLODRYGA: Stephen, could you not make the argument that he's also goading Democrats here into falling into a position where they feel that they have

to defend some of these protesters? I mean, you're already having the mayor of Los Angeles impose a curfew, and the governor unequivocally condemn the

violence and looting and those who are breaking the law.

It is a difficult, and at times, tricky position for Democrats to walk and be put in in wanting to say to Americans that, on the one hand, they

respect and are protecting their constitutional rights, but at the same time, not defending necessarily the images that they're seeing play out on

their city streets.

COLLINSON: That's right. And this, of course, is one of the great perils of disinformation and the way that Trump creates alternative realities.

If you look at your T.V. screens over the last few days, you see burning cars, you see soldiers facing down with rioters, police being facing

attacks and projectiles from demonstrators, that looks like a city that's completely out of control, even though the reality is -- is that it isn't.

Trump and his Republicans know, by experience, that the Democrats then, if they stand up and condemn the president for trying to send troops in and

stand up to violence, that makes them look weak.

There is a majority in the country. We don't know how -- how enduring it will be, but for Trump's mass deportation program. So therefore Democrats

are in somewhat of a weak position.

The governor of California, Gavin Newsom, resolved that last night by doing an address to Californians when he said that democracy was now at a

perilous moment. We'll see how that plays out, I think, across the country.

But this, I think, is an example of how the immigration issue is so toxic and so emotive. The dangerous political reverberations that it has.

You were talking to Nic there in England about the Northern Ireland violence, also involving immigration.

Across the world, the failure of center-left politicians to have a way to talk about immigration that is separate from the far-right populist message

and to convince people is really causing great damage to liberal democracies.

Immigration is a constant fuel, I think, for extremism and populism, and many left of center politicians across the world, not just in the United

States, but struggling, I think, to find a way to talk about it, in a way that is effective, and a way that can quell some of this political damage.

GOLODRYGA: Yes. And with that speech last night, Gavin Newsom may be setting the stage for presidential bid in 2028, perhaps as a new voice and

leader for the Democratic Party.

Stephen Collinson, thank you, as always --

COLLINSON: Thanks.

GOLODRYGA: -- for joining us. And a reminder, you can read Stephen's article on cnn.com.

[12:30:02]

ASHER: All right. Still to come, U.S. and Chinese officials say they've sketched out a plan for improved trade relations, and now it's up to their

two leaders to OK it.

GOLODRYGA: So, will it be enough to ratchet down tensions between the world's two largest economies? We'll discuss with the next part, ahead.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

GOLODRYGA: All right. Welcome back to "One World." I'm Bianna Golodryga.

ASHER: And I'm Zain Asher.

Let's go straight now to Los Angeles where U.S. Attorney is announcing charges filed after attacks on law enforcement during the unrest there.

Let's listen in.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

BILL ESSAYLI, U.S. ATTORNEY, CENTRAL DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA: Central District, California. This morning we are announcing that we have filed

federal criminal complaints against two defendants who engaged in violence during the recent civil unrest in Downtown Los Angeles and in Paramount.

The last few days, we have seen vicious attacks on our agents and our properties here in the federal government. The escalation of violence by

these rioters poses a serious threat to our agents and the safety of the public.

Throwing rocks, explosives, assaulting agents and committing other acts of violence are extremely dangerous and will not be tolerated.

The president had no choice but to call in the National Guard to protect our assets and our personnel. Our agents and our law enforcement were

overwhelmed and we are grateful for the help of the National Guard that we've -- that we've received.

The defendants charged in the complaints are accused of throwing Molotov cocktails at police officers and sheriff deputies who are called in to

restore order after two demonstrations against federal immigration's enforcement turned violent.

[12:35:13]

As alleged in the complaints, these defendants one in Paramount, the other in Downtown Los Angeles, through Molotov cocktails at police officers.

Last Saturday, one defendant, Emiliano Galvez hid behind a vent fence and threw the destructive device at a sheriff's deputy, then ran away. Deputies

gave chase and arrested him. That's the video you actually see playing right there.

The following day, police officer -- a police officer apprehended the other defendant, Wrackkie Quiogue, after spotting him with a Molotov cocktail in

his hand. Officers witnessed him throw the device in the air and then arrested him with a lighter in his right hand.

I commend our prosecutors and our law enforcement partners for swiftly taking action against these individuals. Our community must be kept safe

for peaceful protests and against thugs and criminals looking to start trouble.

We expect more charges to be filed in the coming days and weeks. If you took part in these riots and were looking to cause trouble, we will come

looking for you.

These defendants are charged with possession of an unregistered explosive device in violation of 26 United States Code Section 5861D. Possessing a

Molotov cocktail and -- or another destructive device is punishable by up to 10 years in federal prison. They are presumed innocent until proven

guilty.

I now introduce the Los Angeles Special Agent in charge of the ATF office here, Mr. Kenneth Cooper.

KENNETH COOPER, SPECIAL AGENT IN CHARGE, ATF: Good morning, everybody. I just -- I want to stand here and represent ATF and -- and the public and

announce it to the public that ATF is firmly committed to our whole government approach to providing public safety, especially with what's

going on here in Los Angeles.

I want to make it very clear that we are not putting our state and local partners with L.A. County Sheriff's Office, our Sheriff's Department, or

LAPD. We are not pulling them into Title 8 investigations. We understand their restrictions with state law. So this is us coming together when

violent acts are committed against the citizens of Los Angeles.

And in cases like this, the facts of the case are fairly simple. If -- if you guys see the -- the defendant here, Mr. Galvez, this was during the

Paramount riots where Border Patrol was utilizing gas because they were having rocks and fireworks thrown at them and they were being assaulted.

L.A. County Sheriff's Department responded to assist these individuals, identified even by open source media preparing to assault them with a

destructive device.

And as you can see by the grace of God, when he deployed that in a fireball, it luckily did not hit one of the deputies as it clearly would

have caused substantial physical injury or death.

ATF's firmly committed. These are the most aggressive criminal acts. And we will aggressively work with our state and local and federal partners to

investigate the use of destructive device, arson explosives or firearms to assault our public citizens and our public safety first responders.

I guess I didn't even highlight our partnership to the second case with LAPD. Both -- both incidents ATF was able to work with each of these police

departments to get an arrest on individuals that were attempting to harm the police officers with destructive devices.

DEPUTY CHIEF DAVID KOWALSKI, LAPD COUNTER TERRORISM AND SPECIAL OPERATIONS BUREAU: The Los Angeles Police Department appreciates the partnerships

with both our federal, state, and local law enforcement agencies, especially during this time of unprecedented civil unrest. We're going to

continue to work with them to ensure that our community remains safe during this -- this challenging time, especially when it involves cases where

violence is being conducted against both of our -- our local law enforcement uniform officers, as well as our -- our federal officers during

this time.

[12:40:58]

We'll continue to work together to make sure our community remains safe and target those individuals that are doing harm to both our community members

as well as our law enforcement officers as they try to keep peace in our communities right now.

Thank you very much, and I'll introduce Commander Ruiz from Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Good morning, everyone. This is going to be brief. I just want to say thank you to our federal partners to work for --

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GOLODRYGA: All right. Let's go to CNN's Josh Campbell who has been listening into this. And, Josh, we heard from the U.S. Attorney there, as

well as the ATF representative and the LAPD about some of these arrests and the charges against these suspects using Molotov cocktails against police

officials.

Tell us what, if anything stood out to you about this. And is this something that we would expect to see following these types of protests and

unrest on the city streets?

CAMPBELL: Yes. We certainly will. And this is interesting because we've seen the show of force by police out there physically on the streets, you

know, doing crowd control, dispersing these crowds.

But behind the scenes, different teams of investigators have been working to identify and bring charges against people who have been particularly

violent. And that's what we're seeing here.

And, you know, what's interesting is that authorities had said, even though they, you know, aren't going in with full force in order to, you know,

escalate a lot of these situations, they've indicated that they will try to find via social media. They're going to look at all the footage of some --

some of these protests, including the violent incidents. And they're going to work to investigate and try to charge people. And that's what we're

seeing here in this case.

So we will certainly see more of this. I expect authorities have said just that. And that shows how a lot of these protests have essentially been

hijacked. You know, obviously, these protests started out, you know, against immigration policy, but you do have certain members of the crowd

that have been agitators, that have gotten violent. There have been police officers who have been injured. And so again, I think we'll -- we'll see

more of these types of cases.

GOLODRYGA: All right. Josh Campbell, we'll be following this. Thank you.

ASHER: Thank you.

All right. We'll have much more news after this short break.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

ASHER: All right. After today's talks in London, the U.S. and China say they've agreed on a framework for a trade deal.

President Trump and Xi will have to give their approval before it can actually be implemented, though.

[12:45:00]

GOLODRYGA: Now, neither side has disclosed any specifics, but President Trump posted on social media saying the plan included, quote, full magnets

and any necessary rare earths from China, while the U.S. would allow Chinese students to attend its colleges and universities.

The U.S. Commerce Secretary also suggests that the agreement would include easing export restrictions on certain crucial goods.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

HOWARD LUTNICK, U.S. COMMERCE SECRETARY: There were a number of measures the United States of America put on when those rare earths were not coming.

You should expect those to come off sort of as President Trump said in a balanced way.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

ASHER: All right. Time now for "The Exchange."

Joining us live now is Robert Koepp, Director of the Asia Pacific Geoeconomics and Business Initiative. He's also a clinical assistant

professor of strategy at Chapman University in California. Robert, thank you so much for being with us.

So, obviously, the U.S. and China here --

ROBERT KOEPP, DIRECTOR, THE ASIA PACIFIC GEOECONOMICS AND BUSINESS INITIATIVE: Thanks, Zain.

ASHER: -- are agreeing to a framework of a deal and part of it, I mean, obviously we don't know full specifics, but we know that part of it is

eliminating these sorts of export controls on rare earth minerals from China and also magnets as well. And also the U.S. and China have come to an

agreement when it comes to Chinese student visas.

But there are so many aspects to a full trade war -- trade deal rather between the U.S. and China. There are so many different sticky points that

both sides really do need to come to an agreement on.

And based on that, how long do we actually see a full, a full trade deal between both countries do you think?

KOEPP: You know, my sense is this is going to be a back and forth for at least the remainder of this administration.

A couple reasons for that. One, I don't know if it's been available in the newsroom, but in less than an hour ago, it was reported by "The Wall Street

Journal" that in fact what China is going to be offering is a six-month limit on the rare earth export licenses. So that's not permanent.

On top of that, you've got an administration that has earned the moniker TACO. And that -- but part of that -- that chickens out element to the

administration's trade policies is they start to be hostile with their trade arrangements, at least from the perspective of the reciprocal or the

receiving end of -- of the U.S. tariff.

So anyway, my point is all it takes is for something to disturb the president. And he says, hey, you know, I'm going to put up tariffs again.

He's done that repeatedly. Yes, he backs off then. That's where you get the TACO nickname.

But this is part of the really defining features of the approach to trade with the Trump administration this time around.

GOLODRYGA: And to that point, one geological expert said that in terms of rare earths, China is about 30 years ahead of the United States. So, given

that news headline that you just referenced about China giving this a six month window in terms of their rare earths, experts -- just exports just

for economic perspective and for manufacturing perspective in terms, that - - that seems like a very short window for production, for any sort of business modeling or forecast for companies. So, what does that say as it

relates to addressing instability and uncertainty?

KOEPP: Well, it actually says there's going to be continued instability and uncertainty. I think that -- that's the number one issue. And, you know,

we've had these conversations before and it was interesting when we talked previously. This was what I have always argued is the bigger problem.

Tariffs are one thing or trade embargoes. However, they're going about their approach to doing battle in -- in this trade war. But the biggest

issue for businesses and industries in the economy overall is uncertainty.

You can't plan. You can't really anticipate profits, let alone how to organize your supply chains with that kind of uncertainty. So I'd say good

news, I mean, I'm not trying to paint too dismal a picture. There has been certainty re-injected in a way in that, you know, we don't have now these

bans on exports.

By the way, it goes both ways, right? There's the relinquishing of export bans from China on rare earths and on technology exports from the U.S. But

how long that stays in place is really anyone's guess. I would anticipate another two to at least six months probably, but beyond that, it's hard to

tell.

ASHER: Think about sort of how far we've come. And obviously back in April, two months ago, we were talking about 145 percent tariffs on China,

obviously you cannot do business at that level.

But even a 30 percent tariff, and obviously, the markets were cited because obviously there's a dramatic climb down.

KOEPP: Right.

ASHER: But even 30 percent tariff is still prohibitive to business and trade between the U.S. and China. I mean, it is hugely problematic for

American businesses.

[12:50:07]

KOEPP: Absolutely. No, you've said it very well. So that's the kind of environment we're in where 30 percent, you know, excites the markets

because that's better than 145. So you go from totally impossible to just extraordinarily difficult. But indeed, that -- that is the problem.

So you've got uncertainty mixed with what are still very high barriers.

ASHER: All right. Robert Koepp live for us there. Thank you so much.

GOLODRYGA: All right. Still to come on "One World," from filling holes in teeth to filling holes with golf balls. That is very well done for our

writers putting that together. How he dentists has putted his way to the U.S. Open, up next.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

ASHER: It is a dream come true for dentists and amateur golfer in Indiana.

GOLODRYGA: Yes. Matt Vogt has earned a spot in the U.S. Open. And he's back at the course that's just a half hour from where he grew up.

ASHER: Wow.

GOLODRYGA: Here's Vogt in his own words.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

VOGT: I hope to inspire others to -- to -- to let them know that it's -- it's never too late or there's no reason you can't pursue your dreams at

any point in your life or try to -- try to do something that other people might think is foolish or a waste of your time.

If you want to do something and it's important to you, you can do it. Like you honestly can.

Thank you. Have a good day. You're welcome.

I've always been a math and science geek. So even in high school, I said, oh, let's just go major in biology and let's try to be a dentist.

And I've had a little bit more time to do things like this and try to pursue maybe my regrets of not giving golf a full try in the past. I'll

obviously still be an amateur and still be seeing patients that we got for the open no matter what happens.

But when you're working in -- in dentistry, like some days are hard, some days you've got to figure out how to work through problems or, you know,

how to -- how to take a patient who's anxious or -- or not able to.

You know, it's difficult for them. Like your problem solving constantly. There is a bit -- little bit of a comparison to being out here. Like you

hit it in this rough. And the pins are right there. Like, OK. What's the next step, you know? And then there's good days and bad days in the office

and on the golf course for sure.

From end of high school to like college and then maybe a little bit into grad school, it's just, you know, I drive through and park down there on

the outside of the range and walk up to the caddy shack right here and then walk up to the -- to the porch.

[12:55:03]

It was incredible. I -- I -- obviously, there's a bunch of incredible members here. You're in, you know, one of the best golf courses in the

world.

And there's just a lot of -- the -- the caddies, you know, I felt very supported here as a caddy. I hope to represent a lot of different groups of

people this week, you know, Pittsburgh, Oakland, the dentist of the world, make my patients proud.

I feel honored to be carrying that torch this week.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

ASHER: All right. New images from the seabed of the Caribbean suggested 300 year old mystery over what's been dubbed the Holy Grail of shipwrecks has

finally been sold.

Researchers use a remotely operated vehicle to capture these pictures of queens scattered near the wreck. They say it's the best evidence yet. The

sunken ship discovered off the coast of Colombia is the long lost Spanish galleon San Jose.

GOLODRYGA: Yes. Sunk in 1708 during a battle with British Navy ships and was said to be carrying gold, silver, and precious stones. Now the focus

turns to how its treasure can be recovered and who controls it.

I feel like it's something out of the "Goonies."

ASHER: I know. Totally.

GOLODRYGA: Do you remember that movie? We need Harry Enten to talk about movies.

ASHER: My son loves shipwrecks.

GOLODRYGA: All right. Well, that does it for "One World." Thanks so much for watching. I'm Bianna Golodryga.

ASHER: I'm Zain Asher. "Amanpour" is up next.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

[13:00:00]

END