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Senate Taking Final Vote On Trump Agenda Bill; Senate Passes Trump Megabill After 50-50 Vote, VP Breaks Tie; Republicans Backing Trump In Record Numbers; Iranian Official Vows "Lethal Strikes" If Israel Attacks Again; U.S. Republicans Relax Some Restrictions On Wind, Solar, Projects; Players And Fans Struggle To Keep Cool In Record Heat; Aired 12-1p ET
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BIANNA GOLODRYGA, CNN ANCHOR: Hi, everyone. Live from New York, I'm Bianna Golodryga.
ZAIN ASHER, CNN ANCHOR: And I'm Zain Asher. You are watching the second hour of "One World."
Breaking news, the Senate is now voting on Donald Trump's sweeping tax cut and spending package. It is happening live right now. There have been so
many sort of amendments and votes and holdouts
The various senators having various issues with this particular bill but it does, if it does pass, it will go to the House and then eventually to the
President's desk. Hopefully by July 4th is what the President say.
GOLODRYGA: Well, listen, after a 24-hour vote-a-rama, it does seem as if we are in the final stages here before it does go over to the House. And, of
course, then the House will have to start debating and voting on any amendments and changes to the bill that had gone previously to the Senate.
So, we do know that some senators have expressed deep concerns about big cuts to Medicaid. And an estimate that the bill will add more than $3
trillion to the deficit.
The final vote is expected to be very close and could require a tie- breaking vote from Vice President JD Vance. You see him there in the chamber as well.
Now, if it passes, the bill will head over, as we noted, to the House with the goal of having it on Donald Trump's desk to sign by Friday.
For the very latest, let's go to CNN, senior White House correspondent Kristen Holmes.
So, Kristen, we know that the Republicans can only lose three senators here in this vote for it to move forward.
The President seemed to be a bit more amenable before he left for Florida about this self-imposed July 4th deadline. Though, I would imagine
ultimately that is what he is still hoping for. Where do things stand now?
KRISTEN HOLMES, CNN SENIOR WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: That is what he's hoping for. But you have to remember that he is aware that this is a
process. He understands where things are going.
And right now, he is relatively pleased with how this looks like it's going to end up. It looks as though the Senate will push this through. And one
thing to keep in mind, I spoke to somebody last night all night while this vote-a-rama was going on, a senior White House official who just kept
telling me, we like our odds. We like our odds.
And if you really break down what we've seen for the past six months since President Trump has been in office, it's not that surprising that they like
their odds, because almost everything that he has tried to push through Congress, he has been able to do.
So, of course, we aren't there at the final vote. Anything could happen. Up on the Hill, there is always some kind of last-minute twist and turn, so
we'll be waiting for that.
As you noted then, it will go back to the House. However, President Trump and his team feel like their staunchest supporters and allies are in the
House. And they feel pretty good about that.
The -- the whole -- the bill as a whole really goes to show you how President Trump has changed in this second term, understanding that there
are all these processes and how they work. And essentially leaning on the leader --
GOLODRYGA: OK. Kristen, you know what, we're going to -- Kristen, we're just going to interrupt now because we are hearing from Vice President JD
Vance. And let's hear him respond to the vote at this point.
Of Alaska. Lisa Murkowski of Alaska is a yes on this vote. Susan Collins of Maine is a no. So she would be that third vote then after Senator Paul and
obviously Senator Tillis.
ASHER: Right.
GOLODRYGA: And now we have the vice president stepping up.
ASHER: Issuing the tie-breaking vote and so that means that -- let's listen in to what the vice president is saying.
JD VANCE, VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Then hour of 12:00 noon having arrived, the Senate having been in continuous sessions since
yesterday. The Senate suspend for a prayer by the Senate chaplain.
BARRY BLACK, CHAPLAIN OF THE UNITED STATES: Let us pray. Eternal ever blessed God --
ASHER: Now passed. This bill now has passed. It was very close. It was split right down the middle. It was 50-50, 50 senators voting in favor, 50
senators voting against. You had Vice President JD Vance essentially coming in being required to essentially cost the tie-breaking vote. So, it is over
the line.
In terms of what happens next, it now goes back to the House. We know that various House members have had some issues with this bill. We'll see what
happens in the House. But the goal for the president is for it to end up on the president's desk by Friday.
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He has said that he would be open to delaying and extending that deadline but they have managed, at least the Senate level, to get this through.
GOLODRYGA: Do we have Kristen still with us? Kristen, let's bring you back in here because, listen, however it got to this point, it's here, and the
president got a win, but not a ringing endorsement when you have a Republican only vote here coming down to the vice president as the
tiebreaker.
The president calls this a Big, Beautiful Bill. It is clear from polling. It is clear from what we've heard from a number of Republicans, a lot of
nose holding here as they finally move forward and pass to the next stage, at least to the House, the president's key domestic agenda here.
HOLMES: Yes. And, Bianna, I mean, you know, you're saying nose holding, we're talking about all of these caveats. The public doesn't like it. Many
Republican senators don't like it. It was still barely passed.
But the thing is what I was just mentioning, President Trump was confident because this is what we have seen time and time again when it comes to this
Republican Congress. He has been able to strong arm these various bills through Congress, even if it seems as though they are wildly unpopular.
And I will tell you, this was the most important one for President Trump and his team. You know, we see that President Trump was talking to
congressional leadership. We know that. We know that he was pushing various senators, but it wasn't just President Trump. It was also Vice President JD
Vance. It was also the legislative team. It was chief of staff Susie Wiles.
They were out there. They were bringing senators to lunch. They were making phone calls. They were pushing this through, because they believe that this
isn't just the cornerstone of President Trump's second term, but they believe that his entire legacy is wrapped in this bill.
And you talk about it going back to the House and how we've seen some House members have some opposition to what we have heard from the Senate.
But when we talk to the administration about their hopes in the House versus Senate, they were believing they had to work a lot harder in the
Senate to get this through than they necessarily believe in the House. They have a lot of strident staunch supporters in the House.
But, of course, they're going to continue working the phones, continue pressing these various members to make sure that this lands on President
Trump's desk.
Again, we can't really understate -- or excuse me, we can't really overstate how important this is to President Trump. And just to give you a
little context, I mean, even his trip today is in some ways related to this bill. He's down in Florida at this immigration facility, Alligator Alcatraz
with the Florida governor there, Ron DeSantis, that's supposed to house immigrants who are illegal, who are going to be deported.
And part of the reason they chose this timing for him to go down there, there was no necessary reason for him to go down today, was in order to
continue to put pressure on these various lawmakers, because they want to push through this bill, which they say will help ramp up deportations. And
they believe that these hardline immigration policies, which again, are expected to be funded through this bill, are something that his base and
that Republicans are voting on.
They still believe this is a popular issue when it comes to immigration. So, that's why you see him down there in Florida. And you've seen him
pushing through this bill. And I will tell you, even though he is in Florida, even though he's not at the White House, he and his team have been
watching this every single step of the way.
He could not be more invested in the passage of this. And as you said, it is not popular. I mean, our polling shows that a country overall does not
prove of this bill. We've seen Republicans publicly speaking out on various parts of this bill.
But yet still, here we are, kind of in the same place, we've ended up quite a bit after six months of him being in office where despite all of these
caveats, the bill was passed in the Senate. So, now we see what happens next.
ASHER: Yes. I mean, as you point out, 24 hours of bitter infighting, negotiations, obviously desperate -- Republicans were desperate to try to
get Lisa Murkowski on board. She ended up voting yes. Susan Collins --
GOLODRYGA: A resignation. We've got a resignation out of this as well in the process.
ASHER: Thom -- Thom Tillis saying, I'm not going to run again. And obviously the president himself intervening a number of times to convince
Republicans in the Senate to vote yes.
Live for us there, Kristen, thank you so much. Appreciate it.
HOLMES: You bet.
ASHER: I want to bring in Todd Belt. He's the Director of the Political Management Program at George Washington University. Good to see you again.
I had you on obviously in the last hour.
Just talk to our audience, especially our international audience about why this bill is so controversial, because essentially, it does lower taxes. It
pumps a lot of money into government security agencies, like the Pentagon, for example, but that -- that money comes essentially at the expense of
other government programs, including Medicaid and other sort of Social Security safety nets.
Walk us through why Americans are having a hard time getting on board with this.
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TODD BELT, PROFESSOR, GEORGE WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY: Right. Well, thanks for having me on again. This is something about the Senate where you have to
have 60 votes to pass the usual pieces of legislation.
But if you're using the budget reconciliation process, you try to have new spending as offset it by any sort of cuts that you have. And so there's a
lot of new spending for defense for border security and for homeland security in terms of deportations and such. And that money had to come from
somewhere.
Also, there's the tax cuts which lowered the amount of revenue. And the biggest chunk where this money is coming from is Medicaid, which goes to
poor and disabled persons. And it also supports a lot of rural hospitals who are entered upon that funding in order to be able to survive. So,
that's where a lot of Republicans.
Remember the -- the Senate, they -- they represent entire state. So they have rural populations, urban populations, and they have to be concerned
with all of the voters. So, this is why the concerns are a little bit different in the Senate.
And now the bill is going to go back to the House. And we know it might have a couple problems there. We know we have only -- we have one person
who said he definitely won't vote for it. And they can only afford to lose two more votes to get it to pass in the House of Representatives.
GOLODRYGA: Yes. And Susan Collins of Maine voted no, Lisa Murkowski, another holdout of Alaska, voted yes. We know that Rand Paul also was a no,
as was Thom Tillis of North Carolina.
Just looking objectively at the numbers, it is one of the most regressive bills that has been moved forward thus far.
But you do also, Todd, have a scenario where if this wasn't passed, if this isn't passed, it could really derail President Trump's entire second term
here. And I would imagine that's something that Republicans just couldn't envision happening, even if it may cost them at the midterms.
BELT: Well, that's exactly right. You get elected to govern and to do things. And the thing was everything that Donald Trump promised he was
going to do, just about everything, was all rolled up into this one bill. That's why they called it the Big, Beautiful Bill and they had to get it
done.
It is very likely that nothing else will get done this legislative term because the reason they're doing it this year is because next year, we have
midterm elections. And members of the House and Senate are notoriously risk averse when it comes to election year issues.
So, Donald Trump had to get it done. He had to get it done now. And remember, it's still not done. He's been -- he's backed off that -- from
that July 4th deadline a little bit because we still have to have that House vote.
But, yes, all of his major legislative priorities are in this bill. And this may be the only thing, the only major piece of legislation he's able
to get done during his entire term of office because it's likely the Democrats will retake the House next year.
ASHER: All right. Todd Belt live for us there. Thank you for breaking this down for us. We appreciate it.
GOLODRYGA: All right. If you want to know why Republican senators are sticking by Donald Trump on this controversial budget bill, just look at
Trump's approval rating inside the Republican Party.
Our Harry Enten is here with more on that. Harry --
ASHER: We say his name when we have to smile.
GOLODRYGA: Yes. I think actually the producers bumped you up higher in like the serious hour of the show because hopefully we wouldn't be, you know,
completely off the rails with you. We'll try to avoid that now.
ASHER: Like yesterday with you confessing your love for your girlfriend. It was so sweet, on live television.
GOLODRYGA: But let's talk about how much Republicans in your polling love this president at this point.
HARRY ENTEN, CNN CHIEF DATA ANALYST: Yes. We're going to stick on the rails. We're going to keep the train on the tracks. OK.
Look, look, here's the deal. We talk about polling and -- and polling sometimes folks might like a politician, but when it comes to the
Republican base in Donald Trump, they love him.
And the way we can look at that is we can look at the strongly approval, strong approval ratings. That is not just that you somewhat approve, like
the guy, but that you strongly approve, that you love the guy.
And you can see Donald Trump strongly approve rating is up like a rocket compared to eight years ago at this point.
Back in July of 2017, it was at 53 percent Republicans who strongly approved the job he was doing. But look at July of 2025, 63 percent. We're
talking up 10 points.
And more than that, we talk about that somewhat approved. If you added in Donald Trump's approval rating with Republicans overall is at about 90
percent.
Now, you see this 63 percent here. I want to put it into some historical perspective for you, because it's not just that Donald Trump is beating
himself compared to eight years ago. He is beating all Republican presidents on record. Let's take a look here.
All right. This is the GOP who strongly approved of a Republican president five months into their presidency.
And, you know, we mentioned Donald Trump here in 2025 at 63 percent. He's beating himself at 53 percent. He's also beating George W. Bush, Bush 43 at
59 percent back in 2001.
He's also beating George H.W. Bush, Bush 41 at 46 percent back in 1989. And I even went all the way back to Ronald Reagan back in 1981. And, of course,
this was after the failed assassination attempt against his life.
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And Donald Trump at this particular point is even beating Reagan back then. So, it's not just that Republican voters like Donald Trump. They love him
to a historic degree. They love him the way that kids love Disney World. That's how much they love Donald Trump.
And more than that, it's not just about the polling data that we see here. We actually have it in the actual results of why Republican representatives
and senators want to make sure they're in the good graces of Donald Trump.
Because take a look here. This is the endorsement record for Donald Trump. The Times Trump endorses one GOP primaries. Look at these numbers. In 2020,
it was 98 percent of the time. In 2022, it was 95 percent of the time. In 2024, it was 96 percent of the time.
In all these years, 95 percent plus of the folks that Donald Trump endorsed won the Republican primaries. And even in the cases where he went against
an incumbent and actually endorsed the challenger, those challengers succeeded more often than they failed.
So the bottom line is if you're a Republican senator, you're a Republican member of the House, you want to stick with Donald Trump because the voters
love Donald Trump. And when Donald Trump goes against you, as I like to say, there was a movie called "Good Burger" in the late 90s, you go in the
grinder when Donald Trump goes against you. And that is a big reason why Republicans are sticking by their president. Guys?
GOLODRYGA: Was Ke -- was Kenan Thomas in that movie?
ENTEN: Kenan Thompson was in that movie as well as Kel. I forgot Kel's last name. But yes, that's exactly right. Very good.
ASHER: We've got to get our pop culture --
ENTEN: You got it.
GOLODRYGA: Very, very important details.
Chief --
ENTEN: Most important.
GOLODRYGA: Chief -- chief data --
ENTEN: Chief --
GOLODRYGA: -- analyst Harry Enten, boyfriend of the lovely Laura. Thank you so much.
ENTEN: And we kept it up mostly on the rails.
GOLODRYGA: Yes.
ASHER: Yes, we did. We did. Good job, Harry.
All right. Coming up one week on since the ceasefire agreement in Iran, Tehran issues a stern warning to Israel.
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ASHER: All right. Iran is sending a clear message to Israel. Any new Israeli airstrikes will not be tolerated one week into a ceasefire
agreement between the two countries.
An Iranian official tells CNN if a tax resume, Iran will respond with, quote, extremely lethal strikes within minutes.
GOLODRYGA: Yes. This satellite images show work is taking place at Iran's Fordow nuclear enrichment sites just over a week after it was bombed by
U.S. planes.
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And foreign ministers of the G7 countries are calling on Iran to urgently resume cooperation with the U.N.'s nuclear watchdog.
Joining us now is Suzanne Maloney, Vice President and Director of Foreign Policy at the Brookings Institution. Great to have you on the program,
Suzanne. We've been wanting to speak with you for a while now. What a dizzying past month we have seen. Literally historic.
Now, as we've had some time, a little over a week to take in the impact of this 12-day war between Israel and Iran, and then obviously the United
States contributing, you have said that this period is a critical juncture in U.S.-Iran relations.
The President had suggested that there would be talks this week, though, saying it wasn't urgent or even necessary for some sort of deal to be
signed this week. Just talk about what you will be focusing on in the weeks and months to come. There's a lot of focus on whether there will see Iran
reconstitute or attempt to reconstitute its nuclear program. But in terms of U.S.-Iran relations, just talk about what you're looking for.
SUZANNE MALONEY, VICE PRESIDENT AND DIRECTOR OF FOREIGN POLICY AT THE BROOKINGS INSTITUTION: Well, I think the most important aspect is to what
extent we can actually resume some sort of direct dialogue that could actually lead to the return of international inspectors to get an on-the-
ground assessment of what is the precise state of play in Iran's nuclear facilities, the key -- three key facilities that were hit by both Israeli
and American munitions over the past two weeks.
Is Iran able to reconstitute its program? We don't really know because we don't have that full on-the-ground assessment, and it will probably require
some degree of direct dialogue between Tehran and the international community.
Obviously, the president would like that to be an American-led negotiation. Iranians have suggested that they're not quite prepared to go back to the
table at this time, but I think they also haven't closed the door fully. And that does leave a pathway open to some sort of negotiated arrangement.
ASHER: Obviously, the Trump administration has talked about, you know, this idea that the nuclear program from Iran has been destroyed, but, you know,
there are other assessments that suggest it's only been set back by a couple of months.
Walk us through how much we can actually trust the messaging coming out of the White House when it comes to Iran.
MALONEY: Well, I think it's clear that President Trump wanted to take a victory lap. The -- the strike that he authorized was unprecedented. It was
very complex. And it appears to have hit the targets. And in that sense, it was very successful.
But we don't know, and I think that there is considerable reason to doubt that the entire program has been obliterated and that Iran no longer has a
pathway to a nuclear weapons capability.
In fact, I think the presumption is that Iran still has centrifuges with which it could refine uranium and that it may have significant stockpiles
of highly enriched uranium, which would take a fairly small leap to get to weapons grade.
And that is a significant concern, especially if there is no effort underway, no verification process underway to try to keep Iran to some of
the limits that it agreed to as a signatory to the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty, as well as the even more strenuous limits that it agreed to in the
2015 nuclear deal.
GOLODRYGA: And we know it was non-compliant. This is the first time we heard that in some 20 years with the Nonproliferation Treaty before these
strikes began.
And we should also note, as we have, it is only the president, I believe, that's used the term obliterated. I don't think the Israeli officials have
used that. I don't think the IAEA officials have used that. I don't think anyone else here in -- from the Pentagon, maybe the defense secretary
himself, but in terms of top generals, we haven't heard them use that term either.
But as for a deterrent, Suzanne, how much of a significance did the U.S. establish in just perhaps enabling deterrence from Iran knowing that the
U.S. struck once along with Israel? They may want to reconstitute, but knowing that there could be future strikes, do you think that alone could
make them think twice?
MALONEY: Well, they've got to take into account that the country is incredibly vulnerable today, and that vulnerability has been broadcast to
the world, vulnerable, largely as a result of the actions that Israel took over the course of 2024 to erode Iran's extended deterrence in the form of
Hezbollah and its hundreds of thousands of missiles that were aimed at Israel.
Eroded in the form of Israel strikes on Iran, which eliminated some of its air defense capabilities, and eroded by the -- the impressive and amazing
penetration that Israeli security services and intelligence managed to secure in the months that led up to this attack, that facilitated a strike
that took out a number of senior military officials, as well as a number of important figures in the nuclear program.
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And so, Iranian leaders understand just how precarious their own security is at this point. They're focused on playing the long game, trying to
ensure that they can extend the life of this regime, which is deeply unpopular among its own people, even at a time when it's clear that the
Israelis could resume strikes if, in fact, they saw a precipitant to do so.
GOLODRYGA: And we know they're cracking down hard internally on any perceived threats or who they deem to be working in alliance with Israel,
whether that's actually fact-based or not, a number of arrests are being reported there right now.
Suzanne Maloney, thank you so much. Really good to see you.
ASHER: Thank you. Suzanne.
All right. Still to come, we'll take a closer look at how Trump's sweeping agenda bill could actually impact the environment. That story next.
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ASHER: All right. Let's get to Florida now where President Trump is taking questions after touring the Alligator Alcatraz detention facility. Let's
listen in.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Question that I heard from people responding to my video was, why wasn't -- why isn't he even arrested yet?
You know, obviously, you guys are cleaning up the mess that was made deliberately for the past four years. And so people want accountability.
It's --it's great to see that the border is secured and it's great to see the state level cooperation.
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But I guess I would ask you, why hasn't he had been held accountable or anybody?
DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Well, you know, pardons were given out by many -- to many people and they should have been given out.
Like the Unselect Committee of Political Thugs was given a pardon because they destroyed all of the information from two years of hearings. And they
should be arrested but they were given pardons.
Was he given a pardon, Mayorkas? Was he not?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I don't believe so.
TRUMP: Well, I'll take a look at that one because what he did is, it's beyond incompetence. Something had to be done.
Now, with that being said, he took orders from other people and he was really doing the orders. And you could say he was very loyal to them
because it must have been very hard for him to stand up and sit up and, you know, talk about what he allowed to happen to this country and be serious
about it. So, he was given orders.
If he wasn't given a pardon, I could see looking at that. In fact, why don't you take a look at it, Kristi?
He was impeached, but, yes, it was just a fake impeachment. It was a fake impeachment. Why don't you take a look at it? I think he was so bad. They
were all so bad.
Look, it was the worst president in the history of our country. We've had some bad ones. But he was the worst president.
But somebody told Mayorkas to do that and he followed orders, but that doesn't necessarily hold him armless. So take a look at it. Very good
question, actually. Thank you.
Yes, please. Go ahead.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Mr. President, you and the Secretary have both said that many people have self-deported since you came back into office.
TRUMP: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How many is many and has the rate gone up? How do you see the tempo of that moving forward going on?
TRUMP: Sure.
KRISTI NOEM, U.S. HOMELAND SECURITY SECRETARY: I think we have had several hundred thousand, but also we have many that have self-deported not even
using the CBP home app.
When I have gone to these other countries to negotiate security agreements and information sharing on criminals who's coming and going into their
countries, they report that hundreds of thousands have come home that weren't on our radar, that they are coming home on their own and self-
deporting because they want the chance to be able to go back to America someday.
So, we believe it's over a million, possibly more than that. I'm asking all of those countries for their information on what they have of individuals
that may have returned home, that they have taking advantage of their programs to help them become a part of their civilization again too.
So, we know it's over a million, but we have to -- I'm getting more information and that number will grow.
TRUMP: If they don't leave, they never get the chance to come back. We have to take them out and we will. They'll go out, but they never get a chance
to come back. The other way, we actually make it a little bit easier for them to come back.
OK. Thank you. Good question. Thank you.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The bill has now passed in the Senate, but we are already hearing from some Republicans in the House who say they cannot get
on board with the changes that were made to the bill in the Senate. What is your message to those holdouts?
TRUMP: Well, I just heard that about the Senate and the bill has just passed. And it tells you there's something for everyone. I mean, we have,
it's a great bill. There is something for everyone. And I think it's going to go very nicely in the House. Actually, I think it will be easier in the
House than it was in the Senate.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And just to be clear on the Medicaid cuts, you've promised not to cut Medicaid, said this is all just targeting waste, fraud
and abuse.
Are you saying that the estimated 11.8 million people who could lose their health coverage, that is all waste, fraud and abuse?
TRUMP: No, I'm not saying that. I'm saying it's going to be a very much smaller number than that. And that number will be waste, fraud and abuse.
And if you look, they took a much more liberal stance on the Medicaid situation than they could have. They had a -- they had a -- they had a
tough stance and a weak stance. They took us not a very strong stance on that to start off. And it's waste, fraud and abuse. And everybody wants
that covered. Thank you.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What number is that? What analysis are you -- are you seeing?
TRUMP: I'm not seeing a number, but I know it's much less than the number you gave. And we really were very, very cognizant of three things. Social
Security, we're going to take care of it beautifully. Medicare and Medicaid.
And we are going to save it, whereas the Democrats are going to -- you won't have it. They will destroy Medicare and Medicaid. And they have to
because their numbers don't work. So, it's not going to happen. They're the ones that have destroyed Medicare. They have made it so bad already.
They're going to make it a lot worse.
But now, we'll be in charge. So, we're going to have no problem with Medicaid or Medicare or Social Security. Thank you. Yes.
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GOLODRYGA: OK. We've been listening to President Trump taking questions in Florida there just moments after the Senate narrowly passed his key
signature legislation, the Big, Beautiful Bill.
He started out by answering the question as to whether he would arrest former DHS Secretary Mayorkas. He said that is something that they should
look at for what he cited as his failings of keeping the border secure.
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Then in terms of how many Americans have already or how many migrants have already self-deported, current DHS Secretary Kristi Noem said that several
hundred thousand have already done so.
And in terms of the bill itself, the president said it's clear, given that it's passed, that there's something in this bill for everyone. And also
saying that he thinks that the final number of Americans who actually will lose their healthcare is much lower than the 11.8 million projected by the
CBO right now. So, we'll see where it winds up in the House.
But just before the Senate passed Trump sweeping agenda bill, Republicans removed an excise tax on wind and solar energy projects.
ASHER: Yes. The updated version of the bill also made other changes to the energy tax credits that are more favorable to wind and solar developers.
However, the bill would still significantly reduce tax credits for clean energy compared to the Biden era energy law passed in 2022.
CNN's chief climate correspondent Bill Weir joins us live now.
So, Bill, I mean, what does this bill actually mean for the solar industry? Not just solar, but renewables in general.
BILL WEIR, CNN CHIEF CLIMATE CORRESPONDENT: Well, it looked like some Republicans wanted to murder those industries outright and make them, you
know, not be able to recover when a Democrat takes over in the future some times.
This one leaves it really just very badly beaten. This means energy prices are certain to go up, especially in red states because Texas and Kansas,
South Carolina, these -- these are the states now really leaning into wind and solar.
Sixty-percent electricity in Iowa is produced by renewables, which is why Joni Ernst, the senator there, led the effort to strip out just really
punitive taxes that would have murdered. So, they removed the -- the murder weapon.
But overall, this is a stunning blow to an industry that is not only learning how to walk, but was running. About 90 percent of new power,
utility scale installations in the United States is wind and solar plus batteries.
The cost has come so far down because these are energy sources that don't need pipelines. And the wind and the sun doesn't stop if there's a foreign
war or a trade war or an embargo. And if these utilities are forced to go back to the kinds of fuels that demand pipelines and volatile prices,
prices go up for everybody.
But that's just the pocketbook stuff, not to mention the amount of climate pollution that was baked into this bill that will just hasten unlivable
temperatures around the world.
ASHER: All right, Bill Weir live for us there. Thank you so much.
WEIR: You bet.
GOLODRYGA: Well, as Bill just said, this bill has potentially significant ramifications for the U.S. climate and energy policy.
ASHER: Yes, which, of course, would have global effects as well. I want to dig deeper now into that time for "The Exchange." Joining us live now is
Alice Hill. She's the Senior Fellow for Climate Change Policy at the Council on Foreign Relations. Alice, thank you so much for being with us.
I mean, it's interesting how our reporter Bill Weir put it that over the weekend, it looked as though Republicans essentially wanted to murder the
solar industry. Now, it looks as though it is basically badly beaten and not outright destroyed. Can you give us your take on that?
ALICE HILL, SENIOR FELLOW FOR CLIMATE CHANGE POLICY, THE COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS: Well, I agree. The clean energy industry in the United States
has been kneecapped by the Republican Congress. This was a very close vote. Of course, it has to go still go to our house.
But the solar wind energy efforts were really undermined Biden's efforts to transition the United States to a cleaner economy were cut away and sharp
deadlines imposed for any industry, players who wanted to take advantage of some of the tax breaks that Biden had created.
It also rolls back solar energy credits for consumers, EV tax credits, sending a message that certain energy is favored and certain types of
energy are disfavored in the United States.
GOLODRYGA: And we heard there from Bill, and as we've known for many months now, it is actually some of the reddest states, including Texas that have
invested so much in renewables and clean energy going forward in terms of uncertainty now for the states, for big companies as to where they should
put their investments going forward.
Where does that leave them at this point? Because this administration, President Trump is saying with this legislation, you're going to see a boom
to the economy, that you're going to see much more revenues come in, new investments and fossil fuels. That's not how the corporate world works
though.
So, walk us through some of your concerns just from that angle.
HILL: Well, this is going to undermine the solar industry and make it much more difficult for them to compete in the United States. These tax credits
gave them a boost so that they could more quickly spread across the country.
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And the timing of this is very bad. Our electric grid is highly stressed, not only from extreme heat, but we have an explosion of data centers here
in the United States. And all of them want electricity now.
Of course, when solar could be a huge boon to making sure that there's adequate power, and that would control prices for consumers. But instead,
we're going to see greater demand for electricity and fewer sources of energy being economically feasible for Americans.
ASHER: And some of the damage that has been done by this bill to the sort of renewable energy market, how much of it can be reversed, assuming that a
Democrat comes into office in a few years?
HILL: It's going to be tough. President Trump has shown the world that the situation in the United States is very uncertain. And any corporate leader
will tell you, what do you want? They want certainty. They want to know how to plan. They want to know how to make investments.
The solar industry, when it looks like it was clean sailing under President Biden, you know, some of these tax credits had a decade-long tail. So, that
was great for corporations figuring out where I want to make investments.
But now, that's been pulled back. It looks like it will be far more expensive. And I think we will see companies fold and turn away from the
choices they had been making and to expand solar as well as wind.
So, it's very bad going forward. Too much uncertainty has been introduced by President Trump in terms of the world economy.
GOLODRYGA: Yes. This bill rolls back the majority of what we saw from Build Back Better in terms of the nearly half a trillion dollars that was
invested specifically for climate programs.
What does this do as far as putting us on a realistic path to meeting our climate targets specifically?
HILL: Well, the United States, of course, is the world's historically largest bidder. It's also the current largest producer of oil and gas. So,
there's a great interest in President Trump and fossil fuel companies to continue to rely on that.
In terms of the world, our emissions are the second highest in the world. What is anticipated we will add to the atmosphere is marginally not that
large, but this sends a terrible message as nations gather to go to Brazil in November for -- the U.N. Conference of the Parties, the 30th of such
meeting.
And at that meeting all nations, 193, the U.S. won't be there, are supposed to bring forward their nationally determined voluntary commitments to cut
emissions. That effort is stumbling very visibly at the moment.
And this major pullback by the United States will undermine that effort further. This is really bad news for the United States, but very, very bad
news in terms of the expected heating going forward, because there just isn't the incentive for other nations to cut back as they see the United
States say, well, we're -- we're doubling down right now on fossil fuels.
ASHER: Alice Hill, I appreciate your perspective. Thank you so much.
We'll be right back with more news after this short break.
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GOLODRYGA: Well, now for a look at a burgeoning industry in Senegal, centered around space and astronomy.
ASHER: That's right. Nearly a year since the country made history with its first satellite launch. Maram Kaire, Director of Senegal's Agency of Space
Studies is sharing his plans for the next phase of the space economy.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Astronomy is the scientific study of objects in the universe, like Earth's moon, sun, stars and planets. But when Maram was
growing up, there weren't many options in Senegal. He looked elsewhere for his inspiration, including to the first black woman in space, American Mae
Jemison.
MARAM KAIRE, DIRECTOR GENERAL, SENEGALESE SPACE STUDIES AGENCY: At 12, I was very inspired by one person. It's amazing, it was a woman, Dr. Mae
Jemison. And just decided also to be an astronaut. So, you have the choice, you want to be an astronaut or you want to be an astronomer, no matter. I
just want to be with my head into space all the time.
And if I can be an astronaut, I will spend my life watching the stars with my telescope.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: If that 12-year-old boy could see himself now, he'd be astonished at how far he's taken the field of astronomy in Senegal.
The latest milestone, the country's first ever Space Week.
KAIRE: It will not be a game changer. When you do this kind of event, the most important is to have around the table all the actors of the ecosystem
of the space sector.
So, it is a very important step in our dream of building a Senegal space measure.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That's a good illustration of U.S. satellites.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Among the vendors in the exhibition hall is Promethee Earth Intelligence, a French satellite company partnering with the
Senegalese Space Agency.
To build a portion of what Maram plans to be Senegal's first satellite constellation in the next few years.
KAIRE: We are working in a very ambitious program of building our first constellation of satellite. It will be around seven satellites. The two
first ones are supposed to start being build at the end of this year with some of our partners in -- in Europe. And the rest of the constellation
will be build here in our own assembly center.
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ASHER: All right. Still to come, no respite from the heat. It is another sizzling day in London where day two of Wimbledon is underway. We'll bring
you right out today, next.
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ASHER: All right. Europe sizzling in a heatwave as tennis fans settle into their seats for day two of Wimbledon at the All England Club in London.
Seven-time men's champion Novak Djokovic would love a historic 25 -- 25th rather, grandstand title, while Barbora Krejcikova begins her title defense
with major questions over her fitness.
GOLODRYGA: Kudos on that pronunciation right there, Zain.
Well, fans and players alike hydrating and trying to keep cool because those scorching temperatures are expected to climb even higher today.
Joining us from Atlanta is World Sports Don Riddell. Don, sometimes it benefits one to sit at home, turn on the AC and watch the game from their
sofa, watch the match in their sofa. And this happens to be one of those tournaments. Temperatures continuing to rise.
What are you looking for today?
DON RIDDELL, CNN WORLD SPORT: Yes. Well you say that guys, but remember, in the U.K. most places --
ASHER: We don't do AC, do we?
RIDDELL: Most places don't do AC.
ASHER: We don't do AC.
RIDDELL: I spoke to my brother today.
GOLODRYGA: Stick to America then. Yes.
ASHER: Sick of that.
RIDDELL: I spoke to my brother today. He lives in London and he's about to go on holiday to Mallorca and he says he can't wait to get to a hotel that
has air conditioning. That's -- that's how people in the U.K. and London feel about this heatwave right now.
Yes. So, look, we -- we talk about all the seats that are being toppled. It was carnage in -- in the first round of the men's draw with three top 10
players already out.
In the women's draw, two top five players already out. Huge upset with Jessica Pegula, the world number three going out today. She described it as
the worst result of her year. She was beaten by a player well outside the top 100 rankings.
The Olympic champion, Qinwen Zheng, also out. She's the fifth seed. This, by the way, is the third consecutive year that she has gone out in the
first round.
As you mentioned, Barbora Krejcikova, the defending champion. Bit of a wobble. She did lose a set to the rising Filipino star, Alexander Eala. But
Krejcikova eventually managed to turn that one around.
The women star, Iga Swiatek, cruised in her first round match. A lot of interesting Coco Gauff, of course. She will be playing her first round
match later this Tuesday. Remember, she only just won the French Open. Her second major title at the age of just 21.
Remains to be seen how strong she's going to be on grass this summer. She's only played one grass court match since the French Open. And she lost it.
But she is the second seed here and will obviously hope to make a deep run. But she's never been past the fourth round here at Wimbledon.
In the men's draw, the world number one, Jannik Sinner, had an easy win today in straight sets, well under two hours. He got the job done. Of
course, he lost that epic French Open final to Carlos Alcaraz just a few weeks ago. So Sinner hoping for a big tournament here.
A lot of people would hope that he can get to the final and play Carlos Alcaraz again. If he doesn't, it may well be because Novak Djokovic is in
his half of the draw.
As you say, Djokovic going for a 25th major title, which would be a record. An eighth Wimbledon title is what he's hoping for. This could be his last
Wimbledon.
He played Roland Garros recently and he kind of said goodbye to the fans afterwards, just as a marker in case this is his last season. So, this
could be his last Wimbledon as well.
But he absolutely is in it to win it. He is certainly good enough. The last two majors that he's played, he's made it to the semifinals. So, he could
be very, very dangerous in this draw as well. Djokovic taking court shortly.
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GOLODRYGA: All right. We'll be watching, trying to stay cool here. USA --
ASHER: We have AC.
GOLODRYGA: -- our air condition.
Don Riddell not rubbing it in for our friends in London at all. Thanks so much.
Well, Europe's extreme heatwave is expected to peak in the days ahead in parts of France, Spain, and Portugal. The temperatures topping 40 degrees
Celsius, which is way over 100 degrees Fahrenheit.
ASHER: And those hot dry conditions have triggered wildfires. Fires have broken out in France and Italy and forest fires force the evacuation of
50,000 people in Turkey, which of course, straddles Europe and Asia.
And it is the end of the line for the train that the British royal family sometimes uses to speed around Britain. It's set to be decommissioned by
2027 to keep world costs down, according to Buckingham Palace. It was used only twice this year, but cost nearly $110,000. Pretty penny to operate.
GOLODRYGA: Wonder if it has air condition. The train has nine carriages and includes bedrooms and an office. It was introduced for Queen Elizabeth II's
Silver Jubilee in 1977. The monarchy has used its own train since 1842. I bet you knew that's due.
ASHER: Maybe.
GOLODRYGA: All right. Well, that does it for today's "One World." I'm Bianna Golodryga.
ASHER: And I'm Zain Asher. Appreciate you watching. "Amanpour," with Bianna right here, is next.
GOLODRYGA: See you.
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