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8.8 Magnitude Quake Off Russia Triggers Tsunami Threat; Trump Shortens Deadline For Putin To Make Peace; Kim Jong Un's Sister Speaks Out About Trump; Flights Affected At U.K. Airports Due To Technical Issue; Jury Deliberating In Murder Trial Of Colorado Dentist; U.S. To Burn Contraceptives Rather Than Give It Away; Trump's EPA Proposes Revoking Pollution Limits; Tea App Says DMS And Photos Of Users Have Been Stolen; Meet Abi, The Companion Robot; Aired 12-1p ET

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BIANNA GOLODRYGA, CNN ANCHOR: Hello, everyone. Live from New York, I'm Bianna Golodryga. Zain is off today. You are watching the second hour of

"One World."

Tsunami warnings have largely been downgraded after a massive earthquake triggered alerts across the Pacific region. But anxiety still lingers, and

meteorologists are urging people to stay vigilant.

The 8.8 magnitude earthquake struck near a remote part of Russia's Far East. Kremlin says there are no fatalities there. It is tied for the sixth

strongest quake ever recorded. You can see some panicked sea lions here diving into the sea as the quake hit.

Now, Tsunami warnings were initially issued across a vast region from Japan to Hawaii and the U.S. West Coast as well as South America.

In the U.S., no tsunami warnings are in effect right now. Japan canceled its Tsunami warnings along its northern and eastern coast, but advisories

do remain. Two million people there were evacuated.

And in Peru, residents received alerts on their cell phones, urging them to stay away from coastal areas. Waves up to 2.3 meters are expected to lash

that nation later.

CNN meteorologist Chris Warren is tracking the developments and joins us now from Atlanta. And even, Chris, in that introduction, it's clear why

these warnings and the guidance hasn't been lifted yet because we could still feel its effect in countries like Peru.

CHRIS WARREN, CNN METEOROLOGIST: Yes. And even areas, Bianna, where we have seen some water rise, it's still possible that there could be additional

issues, additional problems with currents or with some of the tides in the area.

So, it's not completely done yet where there are still advisories. Here's what was observed earlier in Hawaii with a little bit more than a meter,

almost to two meters in Maui at Kahului.

And then on the U.S. mainland also seeing water level rises that were up there as well. So, here's Crescent City, a little bit more than a meter, so

four feet and all the way up to Port Orford in Oregon down to Southern California on the central coast there, just under a meter.

Now, it could have been much worse. So this is fortunate.

However, what's interesting about this, I think, is that the tsunami doesn't come as just one wave. So, this is the forecast, the up and the

down, so these two hills there, you think of it as the high tides. And each one of these bars right here is an hour.

So, the expected water before the tsunami would have been here, this hump. But then when it came through, there's a lot of ups and downs, so you get a

wave and then a little bit of a pause, and then another wave.

And this lasting here for several hours, but now with low tide and we're seeing a little bit of a drop there. So no longer a warning here in

Northern California, but advisories do remain also for the Aleutians, the island chain there coming off of Alaska and for Hawaii.

And here at the time was the forecast still relevant here because the timeframe that we're in is now here. So, the earthquake happening right

here. Remember, it was underwater and it's the thrust, the mega thrust of the earth going up, the surface of the ocean floor going up, pushing that

water up, and then that energy being propagated out in a way.

And there's five hours from the time, 10 hours, and now we're here. So, still yet to see the water level rises across parts of South America. This

was 13 miles deep. The earthquake just off the coast here in Russia.

And again, what happens with this is you get that upward thrust. So, it's a subduction zone, tectonic plates, one going under the other and you get a

little bit of a thrust. So, it's the actual movement of the surface under the water which generates this wave.

And unlike wind waves, so wind driven wave. This is from down below. And you don't really notice it in the open ocean, Bianna, until it gets to the

shore and the energy is condensed and you start to get those waves coming in.

GOLODRYGA: Yes. As we heard from our reporter out in California, not the type of alerts that Californians are used to getting, but nonetheless, they

heated them and thankfully they are all fine and we didn't get the waves that some had feared.

Chris Warren, thank you so much for explaining it for us.

Well, brand-new ultimatum from President Trump to his Russian counterpart. Earlier this month, he set a 50-day deadline for Vladimir Putin to make

peace with Ukraine or face new economic sanctions.

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But on Monday, he said he had reduced it to 10 to 12 days. And on Air Force One on Tuesday, this is what he said.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Mr. President, yesterday, you mentioned that you would change the Russian deadline to 10 to 12 days. Is that -- has that started

yet? Or when can we, you know, see the official statement that that is the new deadline?

DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I'll tell you what, I'll give it to you now. Do you want a big scoop?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes, please.

TRUMP: Everybody else, close your ears, OK? You ready?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I'm ready.

TRUMP: Ten days from today.

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GOLODRYGA: So, let's get the latest from senior White House reporter Kevin Liptak. Ten days from today. The president seems pretty determined there

with that ultimatum. What more can we expect from him? And has this really signaled a change in tone towards Russian President Putin?

KEVIN LIPTAK, CNN SENIOR WHITE HOUSE REPORTER: Well, I think you have seen sort of this steady deterioration of the president's view of Putin,

consistently saying that he's disappointed, that Putin tells him one thing on the phone and then goes and does something completely different when it

comes to this conflict.

And then, yes, we have seen Putin and Russia escalating that war in Ukraine, even as President Trump tries to bring the conflict to a close.

The president here being quite specific in his deadline, saying that it would be 10 days from now when these new punishments would go into place on

Russia.

What hasn't necessarily been specific is what exactly that would entail. You know, we heard from President Trump earlier this month that he would

apply this new 100 percent tariff on Russia.

At the end of the day, that isn't necessarily going to have a huge amount of effect. You know, Russian exports to the United States fell 90 percent

since its war began. There isn't really that much for the president to apply new sanctions on.

And he actually seems to acknowledge as much on Air Force One yesterday. Listen to what he said.

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TRUMP: We never did discuss it. And we have no view on that. We're going to get a lot of money to the area so they get some food. He's going to also. I

think --

We're going to put it on tariffs, the various things that you put on. It may or may not affect them, but it could.

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LIPTAK: The president seems to be suggesting that the tariffs on Russia itself wouldn't necessarily have a huge effect.

What the White House and what President Trump do seem to be holding out for as having more of an effect are the so-called secondary sanctions. He calls

them secondary tariffs on countries that continue to import Russian energy.

And in fact, we already saw the president sort of start to put the ball into motion on that today when he said that India, which is the second

largest importer of Russian energy, would have a penalty put in place for doing that.

And we also heard that China, which is the number one importer Russian energy, had been warned that this could potentially be in the offing.

Yesterday, the Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent, as he was meeting with Chinese officials in Stockholm to talk about the trade relationship, raised

this idea of -- of secondary sanctions potentially going into place if, you know, Russia doesn't come to the table and negotiate an end to the

conflict.

Now, according to the Kremlin, all of this is going to have only a minimal effect. We heard from Dmitry Peskov, the Kremlin spokesman, who said that

they, Russia, has been living under U.S. sanctions for so long now that they've developed what he called a, quote, certain immunity to having a --

a great effect on the economy there.

One thing that is true is that these sanctions that the U.S. has been piling on Russia really for the better part of the last four years hasn't

necessarily caused Putin to change his thinking and his approach to the war overall.

And so President Trump clearly frustrated here, clearly intent on using what he can to try and influence an end to the conflict, but not at all

clear of what effect it will actually have on the war and on Russia itself.

GOLODRYGA: All right. Kevin Liptak, thank you so much.

And let's dig deeper now with Alexander Baunov. He is a senior fellow at the Carnegie Russia Eurasia Center, and an expert on Russian politics. And

perhaps even an expert on Vladimir Putin's thinking. We'll get to that in just a second, Alexander.

But I do want to get you to respond to the threat now from President Trump on India with those secondary sanctions. India has for years, decades, had

a relatively close relationship with Russia taking advantage of cheaper oil and gas from the country.

Do you think this could put more pressure on India to have a firmer position towards Russia and its war in Ukraine?

ALEXANDER BAUNOV, SENIOR FELLOW, CARNEGIE RUSSIA EURASIA CENTER: Hello. It's one of -- this is one of the things that can work actually, because

before the war, India had no considerable -- considerable import of Russian oil. And it's multiplied after the full-scale invasion of Russia in Ukraine

in 2022.

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So, basically what India does, it is re-exporting the Russian oil or oil products to make of Russian oil. And based on the fact that before the war,

India was in no need of Russian oil and was perfectly well without it.

It may produce this effect that a threat of sanctions may somehow push India back to the pre-war conditions of oil imports. And it will be -- it

would be a blow to the Russian oil export. That's -- that's true.

GOLODRYGA: Yes. Because as you know, for the past three years, it's only been an added bonus really for India to be able to buy oil from Russia at a

lower price. But clearly, India also wants to maintain relations with the United States and come up with some sort of trade deal. That deadline is

looming just two days from now.

How do you expect the Kremlin? We heard from Peskov. But how do you expect the Kremlin to respond to this new ultimatum from President Trump? Ten days

or more of these sanctions will be leveled if Putin doesn't come to the negotiating table in earnest.

BAUNOV: Yes. You mentioned my capability to -- to interpret Mr. Putin's thinking. It's based not on my like supernatural capacities, but because we

are following what he's saying and what he's doing for more than 25 years since he appeared on the public political scene.

And one thing we know is that he's never doing something immediately under pressure. So, we are talking about these 10 days deadline. It's clear that

nothing will happen in these 10 days. It would be too -- too clearly a case of doing something under pressure.

And for his political culture and for the political culture of his environment, it's acting under pressure is unacceptable. It does mean that

the pressure doesn't work, but it's work on the like larger scale of time.

GOLODRYGA: And he has been in office for a long period of time. We -- we know that. And over that period of time, he has evolved in a number of

ways, but one thing has remained constant as you write in a "New York Times" piece. And that is recognition from the West despite his more

authoritarian and illegal actions.

Can you explain what you mean by that?

BAUNOV: I mean, that the idea of returning to the global scene as a major global power, superpower was very popular in Russian elite, especially in

this type of Russian political elite represented by Vladimir Putin and his inner circle.

And for this, it is necessary not just to have demands or even conquests, but to have -- to have them recognized by not only the global majority or

the global sound, there are completely new notions for the Russian political culture appeared after the full-scale invasion, but by the -- by

the West.

And what is important and why -- the question is, why Vladimir Putin is going to these negotiations if he doesn't want actually the peace with

Ukraine exactly for this? He wants during these negotiations, as a result of these -- of these talks -- these talks, so-called his talks, his demands

recognized by the West as legitimate.

He wants not just to see something, but to legitimize his status and his very possibility to make demands on the global stage.

GOLODRYGA: Yes. And that's why many who have followed him, the way you have, have said that it had only been rewarding for him to give him some of

these summits and these meetings with Western leaders that would only validate his power and welcome him and his eyes, at least, to the global

world and not be a pariah.

Ultimately, you say what he wants is a New Yalta. And as you note in this piece that I suggest all of our readers go back and read in "The New York

Times." A reminder that -- that Yalta failed and brought us the Cold War. So very, very thoughtful and insightful analysis, as always.

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Alexander Baunov, thank you for joining us.

BAUNOV: Thank you so much.

GOLODRYGA: Well, North Korea is speaking out about U.S. President Donald Trump, but it's not coming from the country's Supreme Leader.

Kim Jong Un's powerful younger sister suggested to state media that Pyongyang would be open to talks with Washington, but only if the U.S.

drops its demand for denuclearization.

CNN's Will Ripley has more.

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WILL RIPLEY, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): North Korea breaking its silence on Donald Trump. The messenger? Not Kim Jong Un,

but his powerful younger sister, Kim Yo Jong, on the far right, believed to be in her late 30s.

This week in North Korean state media, she said her brother's relationship with President Trump is not bad, signaling talks with the U.S. could happen

again, but only if the U.S. drops its demand for denuclearization and accepts North Korea as a nuclear power.

Kim's sister, also called South Korea the enemy, slamming their new president, Lee Jae Myung, rejecting any chance for dialogue.

LEE SUNG-YOON, WILSON CENTER FELLOW, AUTHOR OF "THE SISTER": She exuded confidence. She exuded arrogance even.

RIPLEY (voice-over): She's a major architect of her older brother's carefully choreographed image, like this recent meeting with Russia's

foreign minister on one of Kim's yachts. She was also by his side when Kim met President Trump.

JOSEPH YAN, FORMER U.S. SPECIAL REPRESENTATIVE FOR NORTH KOREA POLICY: His sister, who is always around him, kind of acts as his chief of staff.

RIPLEY (voice-over): And Kim's enforcer. When South Korean activists sent anti-Kim leaflets North by balloon last year, she publicly defended flying

trash filled balloons South, triggering cell phone alerts for millions.

She also ordered the dramatic demolition of this border office, shared with the South.

Kim Yo Jong has been rising in power for years, promoted to the politburo, the senior body of North Korea's communist party. She represented her

brother at the 2018 Winter Olympics in South Korea.

Kim's sister is most known for her fiery rhetoric and fierce loyalty to her brother, one of the only people North Korea's most powerful person can

trust.

RIPLEY: Notably, neither statement from Kim Yo Yong was published in North Korea's state newspaper, a sign her comments may be a more at foreign

leaders than her own people.

And with Trump heading to South Korea in October for the APEC summit and set to meet President Xi of China and South Korea's new president, Lee Jae

Myung, the question now, could a fourth Kim Trump summit be a play?

Will Ripley, CNN, Taipei.

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GOLODRYGA: And airlines in the United Kingdom are working to restore normal operations across the country. London's Gatwick Airport says outbound

flights had to be grounded due to a major technical issue.

Aviation officials say the issues were quickly resolved. Richard Quest joins us now from New York. Our aviation's expert here in-house.

Richard, what more do we know about what led to this outage?

RICHARD QUEST, CNN ANCHOR: We don't. We just know that the main air service provider, NATS, the air transport service provider, says that there was a

technical glitch at its Swanwick Center. This is a major, huge air traffic control center that covers pretty much all of England and Wales.

And it controls air traffic into and out of Heathrow, Birmingham, London, Gatwick. And there was a problem now. It didn't last very long, but it's

the nature of air traffic that a short delay can have long-standing consequences because of the knock-on spill effects.

And so it's going to take several hours to put everything to get back to where it should be. The good news is that it does appear as if it's being

quickly resolved. And this is not a repeat of 2023 when NATS had a major outage that lasted a lot longer and basically brought air traffic to a

standstill over large parts of Europe as well.

You have to remember, Bianna, that you've got air traffic, you've got different levels literally, physically of air traffic going over Britain.

So, you've got high altitude, medium altitude, you've got arrival and departure altitudes.

And as they're all affected, so flights become delayed, and that's what we're seeing at the moment. Things will slowly get back to normal.

GOLODRYGA: Well, it's good news that it appears to have been resolved and addressed in a rather short period of time. I know you'll have much more on

this coming up later in a few hours on your own show.

Our Richard Quest, thank you.

And still to come for us, the Trump administration makes a major climate move as it seeks to revoke the EPA's ability to make rules about the planet

warming pollution.

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Plus.

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MICHAEL MAURO, PROSECUTOR: The devil's in the details, and she can't keep the details straight. This guy wanted out of his marriage. And marriages

only end in two ways, death or divorce.

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GOLODRYGA: Is this Colorado dentist guilty of killing his wife? That's the question a jury is considering right now as they deliberate behind closed

doors.

And an app designed to keep women safe now admits it allowed hackers to access a trove of personal information. What the company is doing about it,

that's next.

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GOLODRYGA: All right. Now, the fate of a Colorado dentist accused of fatally poisoning his wife is in the hands of a jury. The prosecution argue

that Dr. James Craig poisoned his wife, Angela, in an attempt to escape his failing marriage. And then tried to falsely portray her as suicidal.

Prosecutors say the dentist killed his 43-year-old wife with a mix of poison protein shakes, doctor pills and a lethal injection back in 2023.

Craig's attorney says that's simply not true.

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LISA MOSES, JAMES CRAIG'S DEFENSE ATTORNEY: We ask and when you listen, when they get back up, when you look at this evidence that you take those

blinders off, that you look at the evidence that they have provided you, and you look at the evidence that they have not provided. And we ask that

you find him not guilty.

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GOLODRYGA: The case was handed to the jury on Tuesday for deliberations and were closely monitoring any new developments.

CNN's Jean Casarez joins us now with more. As we know, this is in the jury's hands right now, Jean. And as you have said, the defense is resting

on the assumption or trying to convince the jury that his wife took her own life.

How much evidence have they produced to justify that defense?

JEAN CASAREZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, they brought out a journal, a journal that was found in a storage unit and it was Angela Craig's diary.

And it started in 2009 and it went through 2018. We know what happened beyond that.

But there was entry after entry where she said he's with another woman. He's having another affair. I'm not good enough. I feel so depressed. I

just want to crawl into bed. I don't know whether I should just end this or forge ahead.

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And so they're trying to show that her state of mind right there as she was building toward that she wanted to commit suicide.

And the defense was on to say that -- that she told him, look, you're the dentist. I want you to buy these poisons. We'll research them together and

then just get them. And I want to go fast and I don't want it to be painful.

But the prosecution and their closing arguments said, here are the facts. Here's the law. The law is first-degree murder, deliberation and intent.

And for 10 days, he researched undetectable poisons. Why would she want a poison that's undetectable? Undetectable poisons. And then he would

purchase arsenic, potassium cyanide, Visine eye drops that had tetrahydrozoline. I'm talking about over 20 bottles of them.

And then he administered them to her and they say that amounts to first degree murder. I want you to listen to some of the closing arguments, first

the prosecution and then the defense.

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MAURO: But the devil's in the details and he can't keep the details straight. And you all know from the reason and the comment says that the

truth doesn't change. James Craig isn't telling the truth. He's telling a false narrative. This guy wanted out of his marriage, and marriages only in

two ways, death or divorce.

MOSES: You know what they proved? They proved beyond reasonable doubt that this guy was a pretty crappy husband. He cheated on his wife constantly.

But this idea that somehow this was some sort of motive is nothing new.

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CASAREZ: At the very end when the jury was given their instructions, we heard a brand-new count. It's not in the information, the complaint. It is

count seven. And it is a form of manslaughter assisted suicide. Maximum is six years.

So, that was brought forth by the defense. They wanted that better to be sentenced to six years than life in prison. But this is a life felony for

the dentist who did cry in -- in - in the closings as they were talking about that diary that we started off talking about.

Also knew, we need to look for solicitation to commit first-degree murder because that is up to 24 years. And according to prosecutors, he got an

inmate while he was in jail and he said, look, I need you to find somebody on the outside to murder the lead defendant of this case, the lead

investigator of this case because she's bad news and I got to get rid of her.

And so the jury is assessing all of this, Bianna. They're in their sixth hour of the liberation right now.

GOLODRYGA: Wow. And, Jean, quickly in that diary that she kept, did she make any reference to asking her husband to poison her and poison her

juices and her shakes?

CASAREZ: No. She never mentioned suicide.

GOLODRYGA: Yes. All right. Jean Casarez, thank you so much. We'll keep a close eye on this case for us. We'll be right back.

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GOLODRYGA: Welcome back to "One World." I'm Bianna Golodryga.

The Trump administration is once again getting ready to destroy taxpayer- funded aid meant for some of the world's poorest people. The State Department has confirmed plans to burn nearly $10 million in contraceptives

currently being stored in Belgium that was supposed to be sent to women in low-income countries, particularly sub-Saharan Africa.

It's a controversial move that will cost $167,000 and comes as the government continues to dramatically scale back foreign assistance after

dismantling USAID.

The U.S. says it has already destroyed 500 metric tons of emergency food meant for starving people around the world.

Let's bring in CNN's Kylie Atwood with more. What is the State Department saying about this latest decision to destroy these contraceptives?

KYLIE ATWOOD, CNN U.S. SECURITY CORRESPONDENT: Well, we're actually getting some mixed messages as of yesterday on this. Initially, the State

Department spokesperson said that there was a preliminary decision to destroy this $9.7 million worth of contraceptives, that as you said are

stored at this warehouse in Belgium. And it was going to cost, according to that spokesperson, more than $160,000 to actually get rid of these

contraceptives.

But then yesterday at the State Department briefing, we asked Tammy Bruce about this, and she said effectively that this is a situation that is

changing on a daily basis and didn't give a definitive answer as to whether or not these contraceptives are actually going to be destroyed.

So, it's very clear that this is a live topic of conversation within the Biden administration right now. Tammy Bruce did say that there were no HIV

drugs that were involved in this -- in these resources. There were no condoms that were involved, but there is some question about exactly which

contraceptives are part of this group of contraceptives that they were initially planning to destroy.

So, we'll have to continue asking the State Department about this. But obviously, there are concerns that this is coming because the State

Department, the Trump administration, dismantled USAID, which would have been in charge of actually distributing these contraceptives to those who

need them around the world.

GOLODRYGA: All right. Security correspondent Kylie Atwood, thank you.

Well, the Trump administration is intent on a major revolution in U.S. climate policy. It wants to revoke the Environmental Protection Agency's

ability to regulate emissions of planet-warming pollutions from fossil fuels.

Now, that would strip the government of its most powerful way to fight climate change. The U.S. is the world's second largest emitter of

greenhouse gases. And according to a report by the American Lung Association, U.S. air pollution levels keep getting worse.

It says around 156 million Americans live in areas blighted by unhealthy air. Experts say scrapping emission rules will make it even harder to

deliver clean air.

Time now for the exchange. Dr. Carlos Del Rio from Emory University School of Medicine joins me now.

And, Doctor, we have a president who in the second term and in his first term, said repeatedly that -- that he's all in favor of clean air, clean

water. What does this type of policy do in terms of cleaning the air in the world and the U.S. if at all?

CARLOS DEL RIO, CHAIR, DEPARTMENT OF MEDICINE, EMORY UNIVERSITY SCHOOL OF MEDICINE: Well, Bianna, this is very unfortunate because we know that --

that pollution leads to a range of negative health consequences. There's for example increased risk of respiratory diseases and of cardiovascular

diseases.

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Listening the standards could result in increased concentrations of harmful air pollutants and particular matter at ground level ozone. And we know

from studies that low-level particle pollution can be deadly. Increases the risk of premature death, especially in older adults and in those with pre-

existing conditions.

In addition, these pollutants are linked to higher rates of asthma, lung disease, chronic obstructive lung disease, and exposures can trigger asthma

attacks, acute bronchitis attacks. And this, you know, long-term consequences of exposure can even lead to lung cancer.

At the cardiovascular level, we know that increased exposure to particular matter is linked to heart attacks and to strokes, particularly people that

have atherosclerosis. So, acute exposure can also increase risk, for example, of arrhythmia, so heart failure.

And -- and this has a particularly severe impact in populations that are located near the source of pollution, like you mentioned. And those

populations are usually low-income minority populations.

And therefore, by doing this, you're actually exacerbating health disparities.

GOLODRYGA: Yes. What we're talking about is the EPA's endangerment finding. And that was a 2009 declaration that states that greenhouse gases threaten

public health and welfare by raising global temperature, increasing the likelihood of heat waves, more intense hurricanes, more storms and heavy

rainfall. By the way, everything that we've been experiencing since then.

If the endangerment finding is actually rescinded, what are the longer-term implications for public health in general?

DEL RIO: Well, a lot of term implications. I --I worry a lot about, you know, sometimes people don't like the term climate change. Well, don't use

the term climate change. I'm just saying that something very weird is happening to the climate. We're living it right now. We're going through a

huge heat wave that is impacting most of the southern U.S.

Where I live in Atlanta, it's close to over 90 degrees right now. And that's, you know, in New York today, they're over 100 degrees. We have seen

floodings. We are seeing thunderstorms. We're seeing more -- more, you know, hurricanes.

So at the end of the day, global warming, or this weird thing we're causing to the atmosphere, is impacting us all because it may not be the pollution,

but maybe if you live in a coastal city, you may be prone to a -- a -- a flood. You may be prone to, you know, a disaster, like what happened to

those unfortunate girls that were in the camp in Texas.

So, at the end of the day, it impacts us not only our health, it's not just public health, it impacts us our ability to live, quite frankly.

GOLODRYGA: Have you seen more cases of people coming in with respiratory or heart issues that you can perhaps link to some of the changes we've seen in

the climate? You talk about the heat in the U.S. It's also unbearably hot and humid here in New York as well.

I'm a healthy woman who exercises regularly. And it's very difficult to run outside. I wonder about people who have preconditions and having to live in

this type of air environment, I would imagine is not good for them.

DEL RIO: It's clearly not good. And as you know, and as you well said, there's a risk of dehydration, there's a risk of heat stroke, there's a

risk of -- of heart failure, there's a risk of -- of having heart attack. There's a lot of risk associated with -- with this extreme heat that we're

currently having, right?

And think about what the weather was like 20 years ago. This is something very different. And this is because we are not doing what we need to do to

combat climate change.

And one of the first steps to climate -- climate change is precisely to limit air pollution. Release the -- if you don't control air pollution,

climate change is only going to get worse.

GOLODRYGA: Yes. And it is interesting that you have this administration saying that their proposal may actually benefit. There may be benefits to

warmer temperatures and higher CO2 levels that haven't been considered by previous EPA officials, such as higher crop yields and longer growing

seasons. Quite a stunning argument to make that it actually could be beneficial.

Let me ask you before you leave, your reaction to the FDA's chief vaccine regulator who suddenly departed. There's been a lot of concern about

leadership there at the FDA, vaccine skepticism, obviously, from the HHS secretary on down.

Apparently, his departure follows recent accusations by conservative activist Laura Loomer that he was a progressive on a number of issues.

DEL RIO: Well, you know, I -- I know and -- and respect Dr. Prasad. Dr. Prasad and I know each other well. And -- and I would say he is, he's very

smart. He is dedicated. He is a beliefs in science, questions things.

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And -- and, you know, quite frankly, we need the right people in -- in this position, right? We don't need -- I don't care if you're a left wing or a

right wing. The question is, do you have the expertise?

And Dr. Prasad had the expertise to be in that position and he was trying to really, you know, do -- do the things the FDA needs to do in a -- in a

science-based and form way. So I'm -- I haven't been able to speak to him, but I am -- I'm troubled to see him depart so soon after he was appointed

because that means that the pressure was really high. And I'm -- I'm -- I'm fortunate that's the reason he had to leave.

You know, being a public servant today is not easy. And -- and I would say that I have a lot of respect for people who decide to go into public

service. Because clearly, I see it here with my colleagues that work at CDC, this is not an easy time to be a public servant.

GOLODRYGA: Yes. Especially on an area as important as health care trust and expertise their top priorities for sure.

Carlos Del Rio, thank you so much.

DEL RIO: And pleasure being with you.

GOLODRYGA: Still to come on "One World."

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: For a machine to be able to awaken someone and give them some excitement in their life is really amazing. Abi, she lights up

the room.

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GOLODRYGA: She speaks 90 languages, recognizes faces. And, oh, can also teach you Tai Chi. What can't she do? Meet Abi, the companion robot. That's

next.

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GOLODRYGA: According to the World Bank, just about half of the people living in Sub-Saharan Africa have a bank account. There are a number of

financial tech firms trying to change that. Among them, Djamo, an Ivory Coast based company hoping to bring banking to those without it.

You'll see how they're doing in today's "Africa Insider."

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HASSAN BOURGI, CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER AND CO-FOUNDER, DJAMO: We're building the future of banking for Africa and it's going to take us a long

way to get there.

REGIS BAMBA, CO-FOUNDER, DJAMO: Back in 2019, I met Hassan, our CEO and co- founder. And he pitched me the idea about Djamo and how we could improve financial services and kind of clicked my mind.

We were both frustrated with our banking experiences. So in essence, we're trying to solve our own problems that we're going for.

When you sign up, you get a virtual (ph) accounts that you can use for transactions.

You can use the app to manage your card, add money on it, transfer money to people. And then you have access to other services like peer-to-peer

transfers, bill payments. You have access to a budgets app. You also have access to an account number, so a bank account number.

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MAYOWA KUYORO, PARTNER, MCKINSEY AND COMPANY: We have a significant amount of unbanked population across the continent. And we're seeing people

develop innovative solutions to reach people who are unbanked or underbanked.

There are a number of challenges that are known today that the tech sector faces. One I hear all the time when speaking to founders is the regulatory

fragmentation across Africa.

If you're a fintech in Europe, you have one set of regulations to deal with. Whereas in Africa, you have more than 50 regulations that you have to

comply with in order to enter. And that makes a market smaller.

BOURGI: There wasn't any regulation when we started. Now, we're getting our first kind of licenses because the regulatory framework, it's actually in

transition, but we have seen some kind of acceleration in the last few months with the central bank participating into putting in place that

framework for businesses like ours.

Currently, we're operating already in two of the largest markets of this region, which are Ivory Coast and Senegal. And we are eyeing some

additional markets within the region in the next few years.

When I look back five years ago, we were three people in the office, you know, writing the first lines of codes, trying to get our first bank

partnership. And today Djamo is more than 300 people. We are used by more than one million customers. I would have never imagined that people would

be at this place today.

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GOLODRYGA: A security breach involving an app designed to protect women on dates is actually worse than originally reported. The Tea app, which allows

women to share information on men they might date, reported last week that hackers had been able to access thousands of photos of Tea users.

And Tea now says the hackers also got access to some direct messages sent using the app. Tea has soared in popularity recently and is one of the most

downloaded apps on Apple's App Store.

CNN's tech reporter Clare Duffy has been looking into this story. What more are we learning about the information that they're putting out there now?

CLARE DUFFY, CNN TECH REPORTER: Yes, Bianna. This is a really significant hack of one of the most popular platforms recently. Tea has more than 4.5

million users and it's billed as the safety app where women can share information about men they've dated, red flags or green flags. But of

course, it's controversial because the men who are posted there say that it puts their privacy at risk.

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Now, because of this breach, both the men who have been posted and the women users have their privacy at risk. Tea confirmed that 72,000 images

had been accessed in this breach. That includes 13,000 images that are verification photos.

So, when you sign up for this platform, you have to confirm that you are a woman by uploading either a selfie or a photo of your I.D. Now, the

platform says it automatically deletes those photos, but the hacked images were from users who signed up before February 2024 when the app had a

different process.

The platform also says that some D.M.s have been accessed in this breach. And so now the Tea app has shut down its direct messaging function.

And security experts say this is potentially really significant breach because photos of people's faces can be used to train AI systems, to

impersonate them. It could be used for fraud to access people's bank account information, for example, by bypassing biometric security systems.

So, you know, they've encouraged users of this platform to be on the lookout for potential hacks, potential efforts to access their sensitive

information.

And the Tea platform also says that it will be contacting effective users and offering them free identity protection, Bianna.

GOLODRYGA: Yes. And as a follow-up, how has the evolution of A.I. and just the fact that it's grown in such sophistication? How has it impacted the

industry in terms of trying to stave off hacks like this?

DUFFY: Yes. I mean, I think it, you know, it's this sort of cat and mouse game where a lot of tech platforms are using AI to try to protect against

these kinds of hacks. But it also supercharges the bad actors and makes them even more effective at, you know, getting into these systems.

And then once information has been hacked, bad actors can again use A.I. to again make -- make use of that sensitive data that's been hacked or the

photos that have been hacked. So, it really heightens the risk here for people who are the victims of these kinds of breaches.

GOLODRYGA: All right. Clare Duffy, thank you.

Well, A.I. robotics is seen as the next frontier for tech companies. Elon Musk is one of the many boasting about the potential for robot helpers to

transform our lives. One startup in Australia sees a role for robots to fight loneliness among the elderly.

Polo Sandoval introduces us to Abi.

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POLO SANDOVAL, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Where technology meets empathy. Melbourne startup, Andromeda robotics' slogan says it all. Abi is

a humanoid robot, but she's also a companion for patients in aged care facilities.

GRACE BROWN, FOUNDER AND CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER, ANDROMEDA ROBOTICS: She's been designed and built to address and alleviate loneliness. So people just

talk to her as a one-on-one friend and companion.

So people talk to her about your story from their lives, you know, their love affairs, their family stories. Yes, they just -- they don't see her as

a robot. They see her as a -- as a friend.

SANDOVAL (voice-over): Abi recognizes faces, remembers past interactions, and speaks 90 languages. She sings, dances, meditates, even does Tai Chi,

all under four feet tall.

Brown created Abi alongside healthcare professionals, aged care providers and robotics engineers. Andromeda is one of many companies worldwide that

are developing and expanding A.I. robots out of factories, handling more complex tasks and public services like this humanoid robot developed in

China, which learned how to do things like play dice.

Andromeda says it sends engineers out regularly to study how people interact with Abi and document ways to improve her technology.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I was so surprised to see such -- such a nice robot. It's fantastic.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I think she's become our best friend.

SANDOVAL (voice-over): Abi's also able to change personality modes based on who she's interacting with. For instance, Sarcastic Maven Abi is sassy and

witty. Psychological Abi encourages movement and motivation. And Dementia mode Abi is compassionate and understanding for more vulnerable patients.

Abi's bubble-blowing arm is perhaps her favorite party trick.

BROWN: I think the reason we gave Abi bubbles is because it's so indicative of like who she is. Like she's -- she's incredibly like complex piece of

technology, but she's also just very creative and playful and fun.

SANDOVAL (voice-over): Aging experts in Australia say as many as 40 percent of aged care facility residents aren't visited by family or friends, which

Brown says encouraged her research.

Andromeda says it's launching Australia's first humanoid robot production line. And it plans to have Abi's in 100 aged care facilities in children's

hospitals by mid-2026.

Polo Sandoval, CNN.

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GOLODRYGA: What a lovely invention.

All right. Before we go, would you spend $100 on an order of pancakes? Real question. IHOP is hoping so. The breakfast chain is offering the Lux Dubai

chocolate pancakes. They're infused with a popular candies flavors, pistachio, hazelnut, and kataifi.

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But wait, there's more. They're topped by vanilla infused Madagascar whipped cream and a shaving of edible 24 karat gold and, of course, a Dubai

chocolate bar.

However, if you're getting hungry, a limited number of the pricey pancakes are only available in New York, L.A., and Austin, Texas. There's also a

pared-down version for $13.

Sometimes you just go with the original. It's hard to miss that though.

Well, that does it for this hour of "One World." I'm Bianna Golodryga. Thanks so much for watching. "Amanpour" is up next.

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