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Trump Pauses Higher Tariffs On Mexico For 90 Days; Soon: NASA To Launch Four-Person Crew To International Space Station; Dentist Sentenced To Life In Prison Over Poisoning Death; NYPD Bids Farewell To Officer Didarul Islam; Ukraine Struggles As Russia Ramps Up Summer Offensive; Delta Flight Forced To land After Turbulence, 25 Injured; Aired 12-1p ET
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ZAIN ASHER, CNN ANCHOR: All right. We are less than 24 hours away from Donald Trump's trade deadline and the clock is ticking.
BIANNA GOLODRYGA, CNN ANCHOR: And in some cases, extending. The second hour of "One World" starts right now.
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DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Every country's called us. That's the beauty of what we do. We put ourselves in the driver's seat.
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GOLODRYGA: Donald Trump has just finished speaking with the Mexican president. And we now know that Mexico will have more time to make a deal.
We'll have details on their new deadline just, ahead.
ASHER: Also ahead, the countdown is on. If everything goes according to plan, we'll bring you a live SpaceX launch in just about eight minutes from
now. So do stay tuned for that.
Plus.
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KAMALA HARRIS, FORMER VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Sometimes the fight takes a while. But I remain full of hope.
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GOLODRYGA: Kamala's second act. What she's up to now and why her latest move has people buzzing about a potential run in 2028.
ASHER: All right. Coming to you live from New York, I am Zain Asher.
GOLODRYGA: I'm Bianna Golodryga, you're watching the second hour of "One World."
Well, a flurry of activity amid a looming deadline. We begin with the clock ticking down on trade deals with the U.S. president's self-imposed tariff
deadline just about 12 hours away.
ASHER: Yes. Donald Trump says tariffs are making the U.S. great and rich again, even as a legal battle over the scope of his authority actually
plays out in court.
Moments ago, he announced on social media that he is pausing higher tariffs on Mexico, that is, by the way, America's largest trading partner, for 90
days. He says the existing tariffs will continue until a trade deal is signed.
GOLODRYGA: Yes. President Trump is pushing some of his aggressive policy moves on social media, some appear politically driven. He slapped a 50
percent tariff on Brazil, trying to punish the country's leadership for refusing to end the trial of right-wing former President Jair Bolsonaro.
And South Korea is among the nations to reach an agreement with the U.S. The U.S. Commerce Secretary says that President Trump's policies are
working.
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HOWARD LUTNICK, U.S. COMMERCE SECRETARY: I got all these phone calls from my Wall Street buddies, and they were going crazy. They were like, you
don't know what you're doing. You're going to destroy the market.
And let me tell you who the experts are. Donald Trump and his trade team have proven the E.U. pays, Japan pays, Korea pays, Vietnam pays, the
Philippines pay.
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GOLODRYGA: All right. CNN's Kevin Liptak is in Washington, D.C. for us. Valeria Leon in Mexico City as well.
Kevin, let's start with you. So, the president says that he is not extending the deadline, except maybe our largest trading partner after he
gets off a phone call --
ASHER: Surprise. Surprise.
GOLODRYGA: -- with Claudia Sheinbaum. Just talk about that rationale to extend it for another 90 days. And if the administration is worried that
some of the other countries that are frantically trying to make a deal with him, will look at that and say, hey, maybe we have an opportunity to extend
as well.
KEVIN LIPTAK, CNN SENIOR WHITE HOUSE REPORTER: Well, I think the president seems to be willing to have some flexibility if he sees some progress being
made. And clearly, he thought with Claudia Sheinbaum earlier today that there was an opening where these two could have a real discussion and
create a trade deal.
He said that of her, the Mexican president, that more and more we are getting to know and understand each other. Clearly, you know, underscoring
the importance of these personal relationships to the president as he tries to strike some of these trade deals.
But I think when you look at how some of the other countries are progressing in all of this, the president has not really shown much
flexibility at all, including on India, who the president just today said was a dead economy and imposed this 25 percent tariff because, according to
American negotiators, they're really having no success in getting New Delhi to open up its markets, in particular, on some agricultural products.
And so you can see where the president thinks he's making some progress. He's willing to be flexible but on countries where some of the negotiating
lines have been a little more rigid, the president very much upholding this stance that these tariffs will go into effect by midnight 01 tomorrow
morning.
And, you know, the president has been quite firm in this and I think is feeling pretty emboldened. And you saw Howard Lutnick there, the president
really thinking that these tariffs which had been so mocked really in the spring, a lot of countries not taking him seriously, threatening their own
reciprocal tariffs, not coming to the negotiating table.
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The president seems to have proven a lot of those countries wrong. And you have seen him have, at least, some success in striking these deals, whether
it's with Japan or the E.U. or South Korea.
I should note, a lot of the details of these plans are still a little fuzzy. You know, of the investments that Howard Lutnick says that these
countries will make into the United States, not entirely clear, including with Japan that $550 billion investment that they say they're making into
the U.S. It's an enormous amount. It's like 13 or 14 percent of Japan's entire GDP.
Officials in Tokyo and officials in Washington describe it in completely different ways. And so for a lot of the successes that the president is
touting, a lot of the details still unclear, but very evident that the president feeling quite emboldened in this strategy as we near this
deadline.
ASHER: All right. Kevin, thank you.
Let me bring in you, Valeria, because obviously Sheinbaum, as we were just talking about, did have this phone call with President Donald Trump. And as
a result, they're extending the tariffs -- the -- the tariffs that are in place 25 percent on certain goods for another 90 days.
Do we know what President Sheinbaum, who, by the way, has been quite good at negotiating with Trump? He does sort of seem to like her. What did she
actually offer President Trump to get him to agree to a 90-day extension? Do we know?
VALERIA LEON, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, the Mexican government has emphasized that it has complied with the Trump administration demands on
border security and also drug trafficking, including the historic extradition of 29 alleged drug kingpins on the U.S. most wanted list, for
which Mexico expects at least some tariff concessions, apart from this 90- day extension.
In addition, President Sheinbaum also said that about the plans for Mexico's southern border, and she has left the door open to more
extradition of cartel figures to the United States.
And let's remember that over the past few months, Mexico has adopted this wait-and-see strategy in response to Trump's tariffs, using patience and
pragmatism to calm its northern neighbor, which seems to have worked again, at least for now and for the next 90 days.
However, Mexican authorities have warned that tariffs could cause a spike in unemployment on their side of the border and likely increase the flow of
migration to the U.S. in response to the shrinking economy in Mexico.
Mexico is a top trading partner with the U.S. with over 80 percent of its exports sent to the U.S. Nevertheless, a 25 percent tariff on the auto
industry, which has put into effect in May, has taken a toll already with several plans in Mexico, closing their doors or cutting back production.
ASHER: All right. Valeria Leon, thank you so much. We appreciate it.
GOLODRYGA: Also, we are just minutes away from a special site to see. NASA about to launch a four-person crew to the International Space Station.
ASHER: Yes. They will be traveling in a SpaceX Dragon spacecraft. The crew is made up of two American astronauts, as well as one from the Japanese
Space Agency and a Russian cosmonaut. The plan is for them to spend six to eight months in space on board the International Space Station.
Joining us live now to talk about the liftoff is Anthony Colangelo. He is the host of the podcast Main Engine Cut Off, which focuses on spaceflight.
Anthony, thank you so much for being with us. I see you're on your little podcast studio there. Good to have you.
GOLODRYGA: The countdown clock, did you see?
ASHER: There is the -- there is the countdown clock.
ANTHONY COLANGELO, PODCAST HOST, MAIN ENGINE CUT OFF: Yes, yes, yes.
ASHER: Anthony, walk us --
COLANGELO: (INAUDIBLE) really.
ASHER: Walk us through what the mission is going to be, specifically when they get to the ISS.
COLANGELO: Yes. This is a standard rotation mission. So the -- the astronauts on board the ISS go up for two berries over time, but several
month rotation on the ISS.
During the time there, they're going to be taking care of the space station. It requires a lot of work to maintain all the facilities up there.
So that's inside and outside. They go out on space walks to maintain the exterior to install new experiments.
There's a lot of research that goes on about long duration human space flight. So understanding how our bodies change when we're in space for a
long time. The idea is to give us a lot more of a database of understanding of what we need to do to adapt our bodies when we're going to go out to the
moon, to Mars, to anywhere else that we want to go in the solar system.
There's a lot of adaptations and things that our body is not used to because of the lack of gravity in that environment. So, that's -- that's
the prime mission up there. And like I said, these are standard rotations, so they happen every couple of months. They -- they happen on SpaceX
vehicles like we're seeing today.
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They fly out of Kazakhstan on Soyuz vehicles with the Roscosmos, the Russian Space Agency. And hopefully soon we will see Boeing Starliner once
again flying crews up to the ISS. And hopefully a couple of months. Yes. it's going to be a little bit.
GOLODRYGA: I was going to say, Anthony, I turned to Zain because I thought it would be a really dumb question to ask you, given that we aren't experts
here and you've covered so many of these.
And we know that there have been missions like this that have been delayed due to weather. So when I saw this dark cloud hovering over sky --
ASHER: It's ominous.
GOLODRYGA: I turned to Zain and I said, that is --
COLANGELO: Yes.
GOLODRYGA: -- a really dark cloud. Are they going to take off? Because I feel like there are better weather conditions that they've delayed launches
on. And lo and behold, we've just got word that there is going to be a delay. So I guess my question wasn't that stupid.
Can you --
ASHER: No such thing is a stupid question, Bianna.
GOLODRYGA: Well, can you -- can you talk about the impact of, you know, a - - a weather delay like this and how long we probably can expect to see one? And especially in the summer months, or Florida and many of these states,
these weather patterns pass quickly.
COLANGELO: Yes. It's one of the biggest things about, especially ISS launches. They -- these are instantaneous launch windows. That means they
have a single second to launch and actually make it up to the ISS. You have to wait for the ISS to pass over your head and then you can launch and you
actually be synced up.
You know, if they were to launch today, they would have gotten to the ISS in two days, but you still need a very precise alignment of these things.
So for everything to come together, you tend to have a single second that you can lift off and make it the ISS.
So in this case, if this is a weather that's -- that's kind of like passing through, they may be able to go ahead and try tomorrow. If it's a bigger
weather pattern, it -- it may be a few more days, especially because for humans, you need to be aware of not only your launch weather, but your
abort weather downrange as well.
So if you need to, you know, escape a rocket for whatever reason, you need to splash down somewhere that's also nice weather. So it's one of the
trickiest things, especially to go down to Florida, try to see a launch. It's really tough to be there when it does lift off when there's humans go
to the ISS involved. It's something that us face nerds are -- are used to all the time.
ASHER: And we just got word that this mission, it's actually been scrubbed because of the weather.
COLANGELO: Yes.
ASHER: They can actually --
COLANGELO: It's just me hanging out with you guys. So I hope you're doing fine.
ASHER: It's like, what are we going to talk about now?
GOLODRYGA: And I'm just saying, don't worry because once it launches, we're just going to be watching.
ASHER: I prepared all of my questions assuming that there was going to be a launch.
GOLODRYGA: And what did I tell you? I said, Zain, once it launches, we won't have anything to talk about, just watching.
ASHER: Now, that it's been scrubbed. But just in terms of the collaboration here, we've got a Japanese astronaut, we've got a cosmonaut on board. I
think we have two cosmonauts on board. Just walk us through how this reflects the growing sort of international collaboration going on in space
exploration. See, I mustered out a question.
GOLODRYGA: Very good one.
COLANGELO: Yes, got it. It's a little bit different with all the players involved. So there's two halves of the ISS. I think a lot of people don't -
- don't realize that, but they operate together, but a little bit independently as well.
There's a Russian half and an -- and a U.S. orbital segment, it's called. On the U.S. segment, the NASA is partnered with the European Space Agency,
the Japanese Space Agency called JAXA, the Canadian Space Agency. And so those partners fly up a crew member, not every single flight, but very
frequently they've got a seat on board to go up.
On the Russian side, NASA and Roscosmos actually exchange seats. So a NASA astronaut will fly on the Russian vehicles, a Russian will fly on the
American vehicles. And that's to make sure that if either vehicle has a problem, or if weather delays a flight like this, there's still crew
members on board that can take care of the ISS from either agency.
Now that's typically more for, you know, if one of these vehicles had to stand down for a long time, or if something like the Starliner incident
that I'm sure you've been tracking over the last year, that happens that we've still got this redundant infrastructure.
So, not only is it a partnership in space where these agencies are coming together to do research and to build out a facility like this, but there's
also some logistical partnerships going on down there on the ground.
ASHER: You're doing a great job of keeping this going, by the way.
GOLODRYGA: And so you've -- you've been in these situations so many times where I mean, this is, you know --
ASHER: I give you A plus for keeping this going, Anthony. Thank you. Thank you for saving us.
GOLODRYGA: This is every other -- this is every other day for you.
COLANGELO: I mean, having a space podcast is standing in this room talking to yourself about space. So this is actually what I'm doing. Don't worry.
GOLODRYGA: Yes, yes. We're the luddites here. You're the --
ASHER: It's your bread and butter. Good. Thank you.
GOLODRYGA: You're the expert.
Yes. It is -- it is notable to talk about the camaraderie here in the teamwork. Yesterday, we talked about the satellite launch between the
United States and India the first time we'd seen that and it's happening as on the ground. We were hearing the president really lash out in terms of
trade deal negotiations, but in the world of space, we are continuing to see collaboration even with Russia.
You have been following SpaceX informally since the first early days of the Falcon 9 flight. Can you just talk about the evolution of the company
itself and just the technological advancements we've seen in relatively short period of time?
COLANGELO: SpaceX is -- is the preeminent player in space and pretty much every facet of the industry. They operate more satellites than anyone else
combined, really more than like we've launched in history.
You know, there's thousands of SpaceX satellites up there right now providing broadband services down here on the ground or to airplanes.
They're human spaceflight side. They have done incredible. This is their 11th standard rotation mission, but it's, you know, they've also had a ton
of other missions that they've flown, not for NASA, just, you know, like we've seen Jared Isaacman, who was supposed to be the NASA administrator.
He's flown some missions just up, you know, to orbit itself.
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So, they've had an incredible run with human spaceflight side of things. And they've also with the Falcon 9 had become the most successful
commercial launch vehicle company and launch services company in the world.
They launch a ton of satellites for whether it's scientific organizations or communications companies. And that's not to mention the fact that to put
those thousands of satellites into space, they are reusing their vehicles and actually flying, you know, hundreds of missions on -- on their own. So
it's their own rocket, their own satellite up there to provide their own services.
They, by sheer force of good work and -- and will, they have become that preeminent player in space and really change the industry in many ways.
There's a ton of people in the industry trying to copy SpaceX in many ways, both culturally, the way they run their companies, but also if you look
around at other rockets and launch vehicles in development.
A lot of them tend to look like a Falcon 9 or a Starship. Now, Starship is having rough days, so it's not all sunshines and rainbows for SpaceX these
days. They're really having a hard time with Starship in South Texas right now.
But the Falcon 9 vehicle that you're looking at still sitting on the pad, unfortunately, and many people would say is probably the greatest launch
vehicle there has ever been. And it's -- it is quite incredible what they've pulled off in, you know, a matter of, you know, a decade and a
half.
ASHER: I mean, if you look at the picture, I mean, just how ominous those clouds, I mean anybody, even if you don't know anything about space
exploration, you know the Falcon 9, it ain't taking off at any time.
GOLODRYGA: Those astronauts just sitting there.
ASHER: Crew-11, sorry.
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GOLODRYGA: I think that's a live shot or not. But the good news is that this has been rescheduled for 11:43 A.M. tomorrow. Hopefully there will be
better weather. We are more well versed. And so when we have you back, hopefully.
ASHER: We are?
GOLODRYGA: Yes, I think so. I've learned a lot from you.
ASHER: I know I have to. I really have. Thank you.
GOLODRYGA: Let's get those clouds. Yes.
ASHER: Thank you so much.
GOLODRYGA: It's so funny, though. I turned to you and I was like, how can they take off with that?
COLANGELO: I'll bring more --
GOLODRYGA: All right.
COLANGELO: -- weather content next time. I should have had a whole --
ASHER: Yes, yes.
COLANGELO: -- set of notes about clouds type and --
GOLODRYGA: I'm just --
COLANGELO: -- what it would -- what it all means.
GOLODRYGA: -- worried about our astronauts, Anthony. Safety first.
ASHER: But can you imagine the disappointment, though, looking forward to what was going to happen today, and then obviously.
GOLODRYGA: We were literally a minute down. I don't know why they didn't see that cloud prior to that, but again they called it.
ASHER: Bianna, you are so funny.
COLANGELO: It's very (INAUDIBLE). Some of the rules are -- are very specific. Some of the rules are, you know, lightning is within a certain
distance. Some of them are, if a certain type of cloud is within a certain range, they can't launch. Others have to do with the level of wind that
they might hit along their course. So, it's not just the wind on the ground, but wind shear up at altitude --
GOLODRYGA: Yes.
COLANGELO: -- and really do a -- do damage on a -- on a rocket that's flying as fast as this would need to.
GOLODRYGA: I guess --
COLANGELO: -- like I said, the abort constraints, I think, are the biggest things that are -- are a real annoyance, because there's not only the
launch site, but there's several abort zones from here all the way through to Ireland, you know. It's -- it's up the east coast and then across the
Atlantic that have to be perfect weather to recover astronauts.
And so, you know, look at -- look at the radar on a given day and -- and see how many good zones of weather you can circle on the eastern seaboard.
It's -- it's really tough to find the right lane to get off.
GOLODRYGA: Especially during these hot summer days as well. Better safe than sorry, as always.
ASHER: We've loved having you on though.
GOLODRYGA: This is a lot of fun.
ASHER: Yes. This is actually is. It was a lot of fun. You made me laugh. Thank you.
COLANGELO: I -- like I said, I can fill time. So I -- I always like having an opportunity to appreciate it. But thanks so much.
GOLODRYGA: Our producers are yelling at us at right now.
ASHER: We're being yelled at right now.
GOLODRYGA: Anthony Colangelo, thank you so much. Bye. The astronauts, look at them. Fist bumping each other, I think.
OK. Coming up, more than two dozen people are hospitalized after a Delta flight hits rough air. We are following that reaction.
Plus.
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MICHAEL MAURO, CHIEF DEPUTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY: Clearly, Craig wanted out of his marriage but was unwilling to face the consequences of divorce.
Especially a divorce initiated by him.
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ASHER: Colorado dentist is convicted and sentenced for slowly poisoning his wife to death. We'll hear a very powerful testimony from the couple's own
daughter.
GOLODRYGA: And just ahead, New York police officers are saying goodbye to a fellow officer. That's one of the victims from Monday's mass shooting is
laid to rest.
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GOLODRYGA: Well, following a days' long manhunt, an arrest has been made in a double murder at a state park in the U.S. state of Arkansas. Police say
this 28-year-old man is a suspect in the killings of a mother and father while they were hiking with their two young children. He was arrested
Wednesday at a barbershop and faces two counts of capital murder. CNN is working to determine whether he has an attorney.
ASHER: Yes. The victims were 43-year-old Clinton David Brink and his wife, 41-year-old Cristen Amanda Brink. Their daughters, ages seven and nine,
were not harmed. Law enforcement had this to say following the arrest.
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COL. MIKE HAGAR, ARKANSAS STATE POLICE: We were able to take a monster off the streets and bring relief to Clinton and Cristen's precious girls. And
to the rest of citizens of Arkansas.
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ASHER: A motive for the killings has yet to be determined. Police say those children are safe with their relatives.
GOLODRYGA: Well, the brother of Angela Craig, a Colorado woman who was murdered by her husband, says the family is elated after James Craig was
sentenced to life in prison.
Craig was convicted of murdering his wife by poisoning her protein shakes. He pleaded not guilty.
ASHER: For nearly two weeks in 2023, family and friends saw the 43-year-old deteriorate as they drove her to hospitals and urgent care. The jury heard
really powerful testimony and tearful testimony from their daughter, who said that life will never be the same without her mom.
James Craig cried as she spoke and appealed as expected.
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MAURO: Clearly, Craig wanted out of his marriage, but was unwilling to face the consequences of divorce, especially a divorce initiated by him. He gave
in to greed and cowardice, ultimately treating Angela as an object, an obstacle to the life he wanted.
The jury said it loudly. Angela was not suicidal. She had no knowledge of or participation in what happened to her, which was that James Craig
murdered her.
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GOLODRYGA: CNN's Jean Casarez joins us now live from New York.
There is no winner here. There are children involved in this case, obviously, the death of their mother, their father sullying her image and
reputation while trying to defend himself. The best you can say, Jean, is that justice was served.
JEAN CASAREZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: It was served. You know, from the outside, this was the perfect family. Successful dentist, commercials on television,
client-based patients that just adored him, always a smile on his face, beautiful wife, lovely wife, we understand, six children, Aurora, right
outside of Denver, Colorado. But it wasn't the story, the real story.
And yesterday, after he was convicted of all charges, so it's life in prison without any possibility of parole, came the sentencing. It was the
victim impact statements.
And our producer in that Aurora, Colorado courtroom said the jury came back in. They wanted to see the sentencing and that they were in tears.
Family members, the brothers and the sisters, they stood up and they talked about how they had welcomed him into their family. But then it was the
moment of time that the youngest daughter of Angela Craig, how brave, stood up and she spoke her mind.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I was supposed to be able to trust my dad. He was supposed to be my hero and instead, he will forever be the villain in my
book. And -- and it hurts so bad every day. And I just hurt so much.
Life and the world will truly never be the same. It will never be as bright as it was when my mom was here with us.
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CASAREZ: You know, one of her brothers said, as a victim impact statement, that they knew on the night of the 15th that she wasn't going to make it.
That's when the family was told she was brain dead. And he said he witnessed for himself, James Craig, take his children in a semi-circle,
praying with them, giving them a religious lesson at that point and he could not believe it.
Now, James Craig, he was allowed to say something in court. The judge asked him, is there anything you would like to say? And just like Brian Kohberger
a week ago in Idaho, he refused to say a thing.
So, he is now sentenced, as I said, to life in prison, but there were these other counts and it's life in prison plus 33 years. And as he would offer
and -- and ask offenders in the jail if they would do favors for him once they got out to plant notes that it was a suicide by his wife, Angela
Craig, he offered them free dental service for life. He won't be able to do that in the state penitentiary.
GOLODRYGA: That was just so painful to watch their daughter --
CASAREZ: Yes.
GOLODRYGA: -- and so -- so powerful to the courage she had to stand up and speak her mind there as emotional as that is, completely ripped that family
apart.
Jean Casarez in New York, thank you so much.
CASAREZ: Thank you both of you.
ASHER: All right. You're looking at pictures of New York City where police officers -- take a look here, are gathering outside a mosque to bid
farewell to one of their own. Officer Didarul Islam was killed in Monday's mass shooting at a midtown office building in New York.
The 36-year-old father of two emigrated to the U.S. from Bangladesh and had actually been a member of the NYPD for about four years.
In addition to Islam, two women and a man were killed in New York City's worst shooting in 25 years.
Omar Jimenez joins us live now from the block. I mean this story, Omar, is incredibly disturbing. I mean, especially because obviously, Omar, you and
I work in Manhattan. This is just not the type of thing that you would expect right here in the city, especially given the type of weapon he was
carrying, the suspect was carrying as he walked the streets of New York.
Obviously, you have so many victims here, four victims. Just walk us to what we know about Islam and his time with the NYPD.
OMAR JIMENEZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes. I mean on your first point, just the images that first emerge of seeing someone with a weapon of that caliber on
the streets of New York City is just something you don't typically see.
And I think some were surprised to find out that this was the deadliest shooting that the city had seen in decades, but it speaks more to where the
city is safety-wise on that front.
Now, when you talk about the people that were killed in this, four people killed, among them a New York City police officer Didarul Islam. That's why
we're here in the Bronx neighborhood of New York City. Just outside the mosque where the funeral services are currently ongoing,
We're -- we're able to hear the audio on the outside of the mosque, but as things go on, on the inside, New York City Mayor Eric Adams is speaking
right now. Of course, the former police officer just before him, New York Governor Kathy Hochul spoke as well. We're expecting to hear from the head
of the police union on top of that.
Once the funeral service aspect of this is over, they will then make their way outside to where I'm standing right now. There will be a prayer and
then there will be a procession that is led essentially down this road. That's part of why there are so many uniformed police officers.
One, to support one of their own that was killed here, but also to secure the area as he makes his way toward his final resting place.
You talk about the others that were killed in this. Julia Hyman, a Cornell graduate in 2020. She worked at the real estate firm that owned the
building. Also the -- Wesley LePatner, the Blackstone executive, along with Aland Etienne, the security officer.
This is what the reality is at this point. Yes, there are investigative threads going on. They are doing their work that they have to do to get
closer to the answering that question of why this happened the way that it did.
But for the families and friends of those affected, they're planning funerals. They're attending funerals. They're trying to figure out how to
move forward without their loved ones. And this moment, a chance for some of that reflection and not just from the New York Police Department as a
whole and not just from local and state governments as we've seen at this point but just from here.
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This was an immigrant from Bangladesh, 36-year-old father of two with a wife now widow expecting a third. And this neighborhood, heavy Bangladesh
community here. We were spoke -- speaking to some of them. This was someone that they knew was in coffee shops with, with -- have picnics with in some
cases. So devastating very much too on a personal level for those even in this neighborhood as well.
ASHER: Yes. I mean, as you point out wife pregnant, wife heavily pregnant, actually, eight months pregnant and father of two. This is a man who was
36.
And when you think about why people move to America or why they move here for a better life, right? For hope and possibility. So to have his life end
this way so senselessly is beyond tragic and obviously thinking of his wife. I mean, to lose your husband while your pregnant is one thing, but to
lose him in such a horrific act of violence is something entirely different.
Omar Jimenez live for us there. Thank you so much.
We'll be right back even more after this break.
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GOLODRYGA: All right. Welcome back to "One World." I'm Bianna Golodryga.
ASHER: And I'm Zain Asher.
Russia's summer offensive is turning into an escalating crisis for Ukraine. Russia says, it's captured a key town of Chasiv Yar in eastern Ukraine
after nearly 18 months of fierce fighting in the area. Ukraine denies the town has been lost.
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GOLODRYGA: Yes. Chasiv Yar lies just west of Bakhmut. And if the capture is confirmed, it could threaten what is known as Russia's -- as Ukraine's
fortress belt of cities in the Donetsk region.
Now, this comes as Russia bombarded Kyiv overnight, killing at least eight people. A six-year-old boy was among those killed in the attacks, and
dozens of people sought shelter in underground subway stations as missiles and drones rained down on the capitol.
Time now for "The Exchange." Joining us is former NATO Supreme Allied Commander General Wesley Clark. General, it is good to see you.
And the attacks from Russia just continue on Kyiv once again. President Zelenskyy saying 300 drones were among those launched by Russia. It's clear
that this ultimatum from President Trump isn't frightening the Kremlin to - - to tone down its -- its drastic -- drastic measures that it's taking now in this war. Its offensive in the east continues. We don't have
confirmation about that key city being conquered by Russia.
But how are you watching all of this right now? Tough words from President Trump, but not seeing much of a response from President Putin yet.
WESLEY CLARK, FORMER NATO SUPREME ALLIED COMMANDER GENERAL: I think that's right, Bianna. And as I look at this, there's two or three key issues.
Number one, Russia is going to use information warfare to try to discourage Ukraine and its western supporters from continuing or to even build up
Ukraine's defensive strength.
So, my contacts with Ukrainian military this morning after this report say that the city has not been lost. This is just Russian disinformation. And
that's what the Ukrainians are -- are telling me privately as well.
But -- but Putin does want to also discourage the Ukrainian public by firing these missiles and -- and drones and attacking major cities like
Kyiv.
Now, of course, this is a war crime. You can't go after the civilian populace. It's against the laws of warfare, but he's doing it. He's using,
in this case, some particularly destructive Iskander cruise missiles that are really hard to intercept because they're coming in low.
The Ukrainians admit they could only get three out of the eight that were fired at Kyiv. And this is a deliberate strategy the Russians are doing to
provoke terror and undercut the government in Ukraine.
And meanwhile, the other issue I'm really worried about, Bianna, is I'm worried about corruption. You know, in -- in Ukraine, they're -- they have
a legacy of corruption from the time that Russia had its fingers all over the economy there.
And there's still concerns about it. We know that there's a pipeline that goes through Ukraine that provides oil to Hungary. Viktor Orban and Hungary
hasn't exactly been a strong supporter of Ukraine or NATO recently.
And -- and I'm being told of rumors that there are people in the Ukrainian government actually making money out of this pipeline, the shipment of oil.
So, that's something that needs to be looked at.
And, you know, we're dealing with a morass of corruption in this area. And Viktor Medvedchuk, one of the first Ukrainian oligarchs, pro-Russian, who
was sanctioned by the United States. Croatia just released his -- his hundred million dollar yacht from sanctions. So Mr. Medvedchuk can -- can
happily go.
He's -- he's exiled from Ukraine, but he's going to be, I guess, welcomed in the Mediterranean with his -- with his yacht. And so how did this
happen? This is evidence of corruption.
The -- the -- the parliament in Ukraine passed a law that took away the independence of the anti-corruption commission. There was such an outcry
that the parliament had to rescind that and pass a new law, but corruption is a major issue.
And -- and, Bianna, my heart just goes out to these men and women who are putting their lives at risk, fighting to defend freedom and democracy and
their rights and their desire to be part of the West.
And this corruption is just so dangerous. It's as dangerous as -- as the Russian missiles. So we've got to work on both fronts there.
ASHER: Yes. And as you point out, you know, the parliament basically rescinded. They voted to actually restore the independence of those anti-
corruption agencies because Ukraine ended up seeing the largest protest on the streets of Kyiv since --
CLARK: Right.
ASHER: -- the war actually began. It was a major deal. And that's why parliament ended up backtracking on that front.
Just in terms of what President Trump is doing in all this. Obviously, he reduced the deadline for Russia to show that they were serious about a
ceasefire and a potential peace deal with Ukraine to 10 days. So up until about August 8th.
Why would President Trump think that that strategy would work on someone like Vladimir Putin?
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That's a good question. And we'd have to ask that to President Trump because all the evidence is it's not working and it's not going to work.
And to try to put these extra sanctions on the people that buy oil and gas from Russia, including Viktor Orban and Hungary, the NATO member, and China
and (INAUDIBLE).
Even if that's done, it won't bring an immediate end to the conflict. What's going to bring an immediate end to the conflict is when Mr. Putin
believes he's going to lose. And he better cut his losses and stop right now.
And that's not going to happen until a lot more military equipment and resources are put into the fight against Mr. Putin in Ukraine. This is a
battle of the West against Russia. Russia acknowledges it. They say they're against us, but we in the West have a really hard time understanding this.
We don't want to go to war with Russia, of course. But Ukraine's fighting for our stabilization, our security interests in Europe
And -- and so I think President Trump is going to have to come to terms with this. He's got a short deadline. He's put it in. It's going to be hard
to avoid the perception that he's been ignored by Mr. Putin. And so I think we're going to have to see ratcheting up of U.S. pressure.
GOLODRYGA: How much harder is that going to be, General? You already have a reluctant president here and quite honestly a reluctant American public at
this point to continue to supply billions of dollars worth of military aid to Ukraine.
Europe also in an economic, you know, stranglehold in a sense. They're trying to -- to give Ukraine more assistance. But as you mentioned, the
corruption, frustrations, and concerns in the country, the manpower shortages, the hit to morale with -- with Ukraine, I would imagine that we
will not be expecting much more additional weaponry directed towards Ukraine anytime soon from the U.S. No?
CLARK: Bianna, the majority of the American public sees Russia as an enemy and they support Ukraine. Now, whether that translates through the
political system and against the preconceptions of the Pentagon and -- and the president remains to be seen.
But certainly there are strong supporters of Ukraine in the Senate, in the Republican majority in the Senate, and they want to see more done.
And I think it's increasingly difficult for the president to fall back on saying he has a special relationship with Mr. Putin when -- when Putin
continues to -- to humiliate him by every time President Trump expresses disappointment, bang, Russia comes back harder against Ukraine. So, I think
Putin is misplaying his hand obviously. And President Trump's going to have to respond.
And the threat of sanctions, it's not enough. So we're going to have to reach down and provide more military assistance if we want to have a
successful outcome. And it's really hard to think about what will happen if we don't have a successful outcome.
GOLODRYGA: Well, it wasn't insignificant what Vladimir Putin and the Kremlin saw the United States and President Trump ultimately do and its
strike against Iran. And President Trump does seem to have turned a page at least in taking Putin at his word at this point. So, we'll see. We'll see
if the president will continue to support Ukraine militarily as well.
General Wesley Clark, thank you so much. Good to see you.
ASHER: Thank you, General.
CLARK: Thank you.
ASHER: All right. Two resolutions that would have blocked U.S. arms sales to Israel were rejected in the U.S. Senate on Wednesday.
The measures introduced by independent Senator Bernie Sanders, ahead of the vote. Sanders said in a speech on the Senate floor that while Hamas is to
blame for beginning the war, quote, Hamas is not responsible for the starvation of children today.
GOLODRYGA: Yes. Earlier -- a day earlier in an interview with Kaitlan Collins, Sanders condemned Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu for
denying that the food -- that the -- for denying that there was a food crisis in Gaza.
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KAITLAN COLLINS, CNN ANCHOR: Senator, when you hear the Israeli Prime Minister saying there's no starvation happening in -- in Gaza, what -- do
you believe he's lying?
SEN. BERNIE SANDERS (I-VT): Of course he's lying. He is a disgusting liar. Israel had a right to defend itself from the terrible Hamas attack. But I
think everybody understands that in the last two and a half years, they've been waging a brutal, horrific, almost unprecedented type of war, not just
against Hamas, but against the Palestinian people.
So you got a -- an area, territory there of 2.2 million people. They have already killed 60,000. They have injured 140,000, most of whom are women,
children, and the elderly. They have virtually completely destroyed the entire infrastructure of Gaza, virtually all of the schools, the healthcare
system, over 70 percent of the housing, the water system.
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And now, as you mentioned, over the last period of time, they have prevented humanitarian aid coming in. And there is now mass malnutrition.
And children are starving to death.
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GOLODRYGA: Yesterday's votes come after President Trump called for more aid to Gaza. And dozens of Senate Democrats sent a letter to the Trump
administration demanding expanded humanitarian aid as well.
We'll be right back.
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ASHER: Here's another one of my not-so-favorite stories. Twenty-five passengers were injured on board a Delta flight after significant
turbulence forced the plane to make an emergency landing.
GOLODRYGA: Yes. This is terrifying. The plane was en route to Amsterdam from Salt Lake City, Utah, when it was diverted to Minneapolis on
Wednesday. Listen as one of the passengers recounted seeing several objects in other -- several carts and other objects thrown around amid the chaos.
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WILLIAM WEBSTER, PASSENGER ON TURBULENT DELTA FLIGHT: I watched a wine cart just get thrown into the air. And stuff is thrown everywhere. People lost
phones. Like people were screaming. It was crazy.
I felt the centrifugal force. I was off my seat for like 30 seconds with the turbulence.
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ASHER: Oh, my gosh. Why do I always have to toss to? She knows. She -- she is laughing because she knows how I feel about my fear of flying. I always
talk about a really plane story.
BRYNN GINGRAS, CNN U.S. NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: I've (INAUDIBLE). That's why.
ASHER: Just before I'm traveling. And this flight was actually set to go to Amsterdam. I'm traveling to Amsterdam this weekend. And so I'm just like,
no.
GOLODRYGA: It won't happen. It won't happen.
ASHER: Why? Please no.
GINGRAS: No. You're going to be OK.
ASHER: Thank you, please. Your lips to God's ears. Thank you.
GINGRAS: We're having deja vu right now. We're having deja vu for sure. And can you believe it, that passenger that you guys heard that the audio from,
he was going to get right back on another flight because he was trying to get to Amsterdam. It was a connecting flight to another place he was
headed, which I'm just like, oh, my gosh. I would need a few days to get come down from this.
But yes. Let me tell you exactly what happened. You know, we are actually learning from the flightAware data that this plane was actually climbing
about a thousand feet in 30 seconds and then descending more than 1,300 feet in 30 seconds. So really a roller coaster terrifying ride for these
passengers.
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Everyone is OK. We're actually learning from Delta that most of the passengers were brought to the hospital once it landed safely in
Minneapolis have all been released. So that is good news there, Zain. So you don't need to worry about that.
But basically this flight, it was taking off from Salt Lake City. About 40 minutes into the flight, that's when the passengers felt all this insane
turbulence and then it diverted up to Minneapolis. It never made it to Amsterdam.
But I do want you guys to hear more from a different passenger about what all of that felt like.
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LEEANN CLEMENT-NASH, PASSENGER: If you didn't have your seatbelt on, everyone that didn't have, they hit the ceiling and then they fell to the
ground. And the carts also hit the ceiling and fell to the ground. And people were injured and it was -- and it happened several times. So it was
really scary.
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GINGRAS: Oh, my gosh. And as Wolf Blitzer was warning passengers, remember this is a good reason to keep your seatbelt on even if that light isn't on.
I mean, really terrifying.
A good thing again that we can report that everyone seems to be OK. But once that flight did land in Minneapolis, as you can see there, there was a
huge response from the medics who actually were taking care of some passengers right outside the gate. And then some, like I said, 25 people
were brought to hospitals. But everyone is expected to be OK.
Delta banking everybody for their quick response to all of these people on board, about 270 people. And we do know that the FAA is now investigating
as well as the NTSB exactly what happened.
It is believed that this turbulence was over a rough patch that, you know, the air traffic controllers were warning about over Wyoming. So, there were
some -- there were some warnings but doesn't make it any worse.
GOLODRYGA: There's a warning and then there's a horror movie.
GINGRAS: Yes.
ASHER: But, you know, I've never been -- Brynn, I've never been one of those, you know, passengers who claps when the plane lands. I haven't ever
done that.
But, you know, inside I'm doing it. Inside I'm doing it. But -- look, like I -- I get it. I get why people clap.
GINGRAS: Oh, gosh, it's terrible.
GOLODRYGA: Yes. Seatbelts, ladies and gentlemen. Seatbelts.
GINGRAS: Yes.
GOLODRYGA: Brynn Gingras, thank you so much.
GINGRAS: All right.
GOLODRYGA: We'll be right back.
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ASHER: The woman who lost the popular vote to Donald Trump, by a little over a single percentage point, now has two faces that she's clear about.
While she loves California, former U.S. Vice President Kamala Harris, announced she will not be running for governor of the Golden State next
year.
GOLODRYGA: Yes. That has her legion of ardent supporters energized about the prospect of another presidential run in 2028. Harris has not committed
to that and appears to be leaving her options open. But she says she learned a lot on the campaign trail, condensed as it was. And she's put it
all in a new memoir titled "107 Days."
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HARRIS: In essence, writing a journal that is this book "107 Days" with candor and reflection, I've written a behind the scenes account of that
journey. I believe there's value in sharing what I saw, what I learned, and what I know it will take to move forward.
In writing this book, one truth kept coming back to me. Sometimes the fight takes a while, but I remain full of hope, and I remain clear-eyed.
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ASHER: An unbelievable rollercoaster ride that she went on after Biden ended up dropping out last summer.
GOLODRYGA: A lot happened in those 107 days. The book is set for a release in September.
All right. Well, a lot happened in these two hours as well. Space had got that that didn't happen.
ASHER: Where is she -- where is she going with this? Where is she going with this?
GOLODRYGA: Tomorrow, perhaps, we'll bring you that SpaceX.
ASHER: Plus, we have that -- that --
GOLODRYGA: Yes.
ASHER: -- guest back on. He seems really cute.
GOLODRYGA: He was fantastic.
ASHER: He entertained us.
GOLODRYGA: Better weather too, I hope.
All right. That does it for "One World." I'm Bianna Golodryga.
ASHER: I'm Zain Asher. Appreciate you watching. "Amanpour" is up next.
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