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Trump On Russian Strikes: It's Disgusting What They're Doing; African Nations Fail To Strike Trade Deals With U.S.; Trump Gives Putin A Deadline For Peace Talks With Ukraine; Construction To Begin In September On Trump's $200M White House Ballroom; Record Rainfall Fell This Week In Eastern U.S.; Understanding Menopause Care And Training; Aired 12-1p ET

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ZAIN ASHER, CNN ANCHOR: All right. Who are the winners and losers in Donald Trump's new tariff plan? The second hour of "One World" starts right now.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: People know what the lay of the land is now, both in the trade front and on the tax front. And so, you know, we expect -- you know,

we -- we expect things to -- to get materially stronger from here.

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ASHER: It hasn't been done since the Depression era. Donald Trump announces the highest tariffs in the U.S. since 1933.

Also ahead, up to 90 percent of American women experienced symptoms related to menopause, but 79 percent of doctors say they've never been trained on

how to deal with it. We'll speak to the trailblazer who's working to change that.

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HARRY ENTEN, CNN CHIEF DATA ANALYST: President Trump, I say bring on the Presidential Fitness Test because you ain't got nothing on me.

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ASHER: The man, the myth, the legend, our dear friend Harry Enten takes on the newly revived Presidential Fitness Test. Can he make the grade? We'll

find out.

All right. Coming to you live from New York, I'm Zain Asher. Bianna is off today. You are watching the second hour of "One World."

Those stories I just mentioned in just a moment, but first, President Donald Trump, special envoy says he spent five hours in Gaza today to

better understand what he's calling the humanitarian situation there.

Steve Witkoff, along with Ambassador Mike Huckabee, made a rare visit to one of the U.S.-Israeli-backed aid distribution sites run by the Gaza

Humanitarian Foundation.

Also, Palestinians are saying that during that visit, Israeli forces shot at them while they waited to receive food. With one man telling CNN, bodies

were scattered all over the place. The IDF says that it fired warning shots.

Hamas, meantime, is slamming the Witkoff trip as a staged photo op and Palestinians themselves urged both officials to come to see the, quote,

real suffering and not just the image Israel is presenting.

Those images from today's visit are in stark contrast to the chaos that the world has been witnessing, desperate, Palestinian scrambling to get food

amid what has been described as a worst-case famine scenario unfolding across Gaza.

Israel has begun allowing air drops of food into the enclave, but it's a controversial method that has been criticized by rights groups as

ineffective, costly and symbolic.

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OLGA CHEREVKO, SPOKESPERSON, U.N. OFFICE FOR THE COORDITNAITON OF HUMANITARIAN AFFAIRS: We, of course, welcome any effort to provide aid to

people because this is long overdue and desperately needed. But air drops specifically or any other alternative to land routes, there is really no

such alternative because the most effective way to bring aid at scale is by road.

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ASHER: Steve Witkoff will also be heading out on another major trip soon as well. President Trump says he'll send his special envoy to Russia in the

coming days. Mr. Trump says he has disgusted, his word, with Vladimir Putin over Moscow's increased attacks on Ukraine.

Vladimir Putin said earlier today that Russian forces are advancing along the line of contact in Ukraine, indicating no change in Moscow's position

one week ahead of the Trump ceasefire deadline.

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VLADIMIR PUTIN, RUSSIAN PRESIDENT (through translator): As for any disappointments on the part of anyone, all disappointments arise from

inflated expectations. This is a well-known general rule. But in order to resolve the issue peacefully, it is necessary to have thorough

conversations and not in public. And this should be done calmly in the silence of the negotiation process.

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ASHER: The Russian President's remarks follow a brutal pre-dawn attack on Kyiv on Thursday, which left at least 31 people dead. Officials say it was

the deadliest single attack on the Ukrainian capital so far this year.

Nick Paton Walsh is on the ground for us in Kyiv.

So, Nick, here you have President Donald Trump saying that he's disgusted by Russia's actions in Ukraine. He's unsure as to whether or not this 10-

day deadline is going to force Vladimir Putin's hand anyway whatsoever.

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Now you have Steve Witkoff apparently on a planned trip heading to Moscow, heading to Russia at some point to meet with Vladimir Putin. Are there any

expectations among the Ukrainians that that's going to make an iota of difference, Nick?

NICK PATON WALSH, CNN CHIEF INTERNATIONAL SECURITY CORRESPONDENT: In short no. And I think we are a week away from Trump having to make a decision

about whether he implements sanctions that he has held out as painful to Russia, possibly painful to Russia's main energy customers, China and

India.

But that comment about how he was disgusted at the strikes against Ukraine was before the incident of two nights ago, in which we have now a death

toll of 33, making this the worst night for Kyiv since the beginning of 2024.

We've just come back from the scene of one of the worst in single incidents, lots of life in civilians. I can remember for quite some time,

28 dead when an apartment block on the northwest of the capital here essentially collapsed at one end.

And the rescuers have had almost two day jobs slowly piecing through the vast amounts of rubble there, pulling out bodies that have led the death

toll to nearly treble over the time in which they've been engaged in that gruesome exercise.

We've got there to find they were finally able to remove the vast amounts of debris that had piled up a whole end of a building gone, collapsed on

itself. The victims, the details of who died there, horrific in the lives that -- that means this missile has shattered.

One stands out, a six-year-old boy, Matvii Marchenko, fond of karate, going to lessons with his older brothers, killed in the rubble there. Multiple

instances of mothers with their children, a teacher, a neurologist, an IT expert, a memorial on the ground there showing the photos of some of the

dead.

And this just part of the nightly horrors inflicted across Ukraine by drones that often buzz in the skies causing great insomnia and fear amongst

ordinary Ukrainians.

Why was this death toll so large? Well, a missile hit a building while everyone was asleep there. One, it's five of eight missiles that got

through that night, perhaps a suggestion that the air defenses weren't able to take out that volume of Russian missiles.

The number of drones fired that night about 300, according to the Ukrainian president, far from a record, but perhaps a sign of a changing Russian

tactic aimed at overwhelming a particular city's air defenses.

So, we have these aerial assaults saying which have been commonplace now. I mean, we see occasionally a 10-day gap in the capital here between major

attacks, but they occur across the country every single night to some degree, coupled now though with the Russian president stating himself their

persistent progress on the frontlines.

Russia has claimed to have taken the town of Chasiv Yar in the east. They've been fighting for it for well over a year. Ukraine denies that.

Ukraine's president, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, saying that's false information.

But Moscow persisting it's taken this key hilltop settlement, which would again improve its positioning in that eastern frontline area. Other

important towns now and risk of encirclement, persistent bad news and doesn't seem that this sharp and the deadline from the White House is

changing any aspect of the dynamics here. Zain.

ASHER: All right. Nick Paton Walsh, thank you so much.

All right. Donald Trump's tariffs are the highest in nearly a century. U.S. president is ushering in a new trade era slapping sweeping new tariffs for

nations around the globe.

Let's take a look at how the markets are reacting. They have been in the red pretty much all morning. Dow obviously down about one percent. S&P 500,

down the lower one percent. And the NASDAQ down more than 1.5 percent.

Today was a self-imposed deadline for countries to make a deal or see higher tax rates on goods. They export to the U.S. This has been pushed

back to August 7th only to give customs officials a bit more time to implement this.

But let's take a look at the impact any country with a trade deficit faces a 50 per -- 15 percent tariff or more. Deals with China and Mexico are

still pending. The White House is touting success of President Trump's trade deals though. Take a listen.

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STEPHEN MIRAN, CHAIRMAN, COUNCIL OF ECONOMIC ADVISERS: Those negotiations are extraordinarily successful beyond my wildest dreams of what was

possible.

When you think about the deals the president accomplished, the deals the president brought home from Europe, from Japan, from Korea, from other

trading partners of ours, they're very substantial deals. But there was no way of getting there without the leverage and the pressure to get there.

Now, that leverage and pressure involved some uncertainty. And I do think that that uncertainty is now resolved. So I see -- I see major tailwinds

for the economy in front of us.

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ASHER: South Africa is among the nations bracing for some of the steepest tariffs on the continent. Along with Algeria and Libya, it could be hit

with a 30 percent tariff on goods exported to the U.S.

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South Africa was hoping to strike a trade deal, but so far there's been none. Sobering reality is that no African nation has struck a trade deal

with the U.S. yet.

CNN's Larry Madowo reports from Nairobi, Kenya.

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LARRY MADOWO, CNN CORRESPONDENT: The United States did not sign a single trade deal with any African country before that August 1st deadline and

bearing a last-minute change. It means these higher tariffs will come into effect August 7th.

It reflects some say the low priority that Africa is for the White House or a sovereign reality that these African economies are just too small

compared to America's largest trading partners, the European Union or China.

But this will affect some of the world's poorest nations, for instance Lesotho, which was initially given a 50 percent tariff in April 2nd. It's

now come down to 15 percent, but I was just recently in Lesotho and you see the impact of the fear of these tariffs. Already some companies are

closing, some people are losing jobs.

Lesotho's garment industry, they export everything from Trump branded golf shirts to Levi's jeans to the United States, and all that is likely to be

affected.

Take another example, one of Africa's largest economies, South Africa. Officials have been working the phones trying to get a deal speaking to the

U.S. trade representative, but they did not get that before the deadline.

And -- and the country which depends on the U.S. as a second largest trade partner, there's some concern about job losses.

KALOMO MUSOKOTWANE, MARKETING AND EVENTS MANAGER: And then 30 percent is drastic, so a lot of people are going to lose jobs. And already the

government is struggling to create more jobs as it is. And I don't see them creating any more jobs again.

So it's going to probably be up to the entrepreneurs. Entrepreneurs are going to have to somehow find a way to bring back the economy. But then at

the end of the day, a lot of people are going to lose.

MADOWO: President Cyril Ramaphosa saying Friday that the government will cushion companies that will be affected hard by the reciprocal tariffs of

South Africa's agriculture and automotive, as well as chemicals industries, especially depend on the U.S. market.

But zooming out here, while the U.S. is raising tariffs on African countries, China is going the opposite direction. China has announced that

it will drop all tariffs for all African countries except for Eswatini, which still recognizes Taiwan. And so China already is Africa's largest

trading partner.

In 2023, Africa exported about $170 billion worth of goods to China. That's four times more than the continent did to the U.S. So, these are two

competing narratives here and many Africans suddenly will be warming up economically to China.

Larry Madowo, CNN, Nairobi.

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ASHER: All right. Let's talk about all of this with David Sanger. He's a CNN political and national security analyst. He's also White House and

national security correspondent for "The New York Times." David, always good to see you.

So, we'll get to tariffs in just a moment. But just in terms of Steve Witkoff, the U.S. Special Envoy, visiting Russia and meeting potentially

with Vladimir Putin, obviously, he's met with Putin before.

What do you think is actually going to come out of this meeting? How will it be different this time do you think?

DAVID SANGER, CNN POLITICAL AND NATIONAL SECURITY ANALYST: I'm not sure it's going to be different this time. I mean, if you think about what the

President has said on repeated occasions, I'm going to give them 50 days and then there was no progress. I'm going to give them 10 to 12 days.

Yet, last -- today he said, you know, I'm going to go ahead with secondary sanctions, which would be essentially sanctions on China, Turkey, India,

the countries that are buying Russian oil. And what's the result? What you just heard in that horrific attack on -- on Kyiv.

So at this point, I think Putin has made it pretty clear that he doesn't believe the sanctions are either going to get implemented or going to hurt

him that much if they do. And he's moving ahead with his project. He has never deviated from that.

ASHER: It's interesting because normally Trump's negotiations strategies do tend to work. I mean, they do sort of tend to be effective. He loves to

keep people on their toes. He loves to sort of show both sides that, you know, he's not on anyone's side in particular. So he makes all sides

nervous. He's very good at that. And that does sort of seem to work.

The only person that hasn't worked with so far is Vladimir Putin. Vladimir Putin has been very consistent. I mean, no matter what Trump does or says,

no matter whether Trump insults him, no matter whether Trump is nice to him and cordial to him, calls him up on the phone, sends Steve Witkoff to meet

him, Putin is consistent.

So for a personality like Donald Trump, how does he go about handling that? I mean, he has said himself that he's not even entirely sure whether this

10-day deadline is actually going to work with a character like Putin. So, what are his options now?

SANGER: Well, what he said is he's not sure the sanctions are going to work --

ASHER: Right.

SANGER: -- with a -- a character like Putin. And -- and it's really interesting because Donald Trump, from the time he first ran in 2016 said

to me, said to others, you know, everybody operates out of their economic interest, right? That's their number one characteristic. So if he can

inflict or threaten to inflict economic pain, he will bend them to as well.

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And what he has discovered, both in his first term and the first six months of this term is, there are some things which mean more to a country than

their economic prosperity. For Russia, that's Ukraine. For China, it may well be at the expansion of its nuclear force. It may well be Taiwan or

expansion through the South China Sea.

So, it's not at all clear right now that Putin is necessarily going to be driven by economics here. He has considered the ripping away of Ukraine

during the collapse of the Soviet Union to be something that he is historically destined to reverse. And it may be that he's going to say, do

your worst.

ASHER: Yes. I mean, normally, everybody has their kryptonite, right? And normally, you know, China --

SANGER: Sure.

ASHER: -- would be right. In -- in normal times, it would be inflicting economic pain to get them to the negotiating table. But that kryptonite

does not work with somebody like Vladimir Putin.

I want to pivot to -- oh, go ahead.

SANGER: It may not work with nuclear powers generally. I mean, thinking China and Russia are the two who think. You know, we have some other cards

here.

ASHER: Right, right. And just in terms of Trump's policy or strategy as it pertains to Gaza, I mean, you had Steve Witkoff visiting Gaza aid

distribution sites. Hamas, of course, they sort of dismissed it as -- as a photo opportunity.

But what is the president's strategy in terms of getting the suffering in Gaza to stop? What -- what sort of options does he have?

SANGER: I'm not sure -- I'm not sure that there has been a strategy here. I mean, if you think about it, he is -- whenever he was asked about these

issues, until this week, when the photographs, the video became so horrific.

He would be asked about starvation and he would talk about defeating Hamas. And that essentially gave a blank check to Prime Minister Netanyahu to move

ahead here.

And only in the past few days has he concluded that the images coming out of the awful starvation underway might be reflecting back on him, on the

United States, on the use of U.S. weaponry in Gaza along the way.

But he has not presented a plan. The only plan, full plan we've heard from him, was moving all the Gazans out and building a gleaming city in which,

you know, had beautiful beachfront and so forth, which didn't tell you what you did with the Palestinians in Gaza. And to this day, he doesn't have a

plan about who governs Gaza.

And so my fundamental view of this is, until you have a plan about whose governing Gaza, you don't have a plan about who's feeding the Gazans.

ASHER: And -- and final question, David, on tariffs. And obviously today is August 1st. I mean, we see massive --

SANGER: Sure.

ASHER: -- market reaction, not just because this deadline came and went. And, obviously, it's going to take a while or a week rather to implement

these tariffs. But this deadline came and went. And a lot of people had been anticipating that there was going to be some kind of extension,

because normally, that's what Donald Trump does this time. He didn't also - -

SANGER: Right.

ASHER: -- have the weak jobs numbers. Just give us your -- your take on this. I mean, obviously, people had been taunting him with this TACO Trump

trade, these sorts of insults, I guess. But he was very defiant this time. He said that he wasn't going to extend other than Mexico. And he did

exactly that.

SANGER: He only extended in Mexico. We do expect there will be an extension for China, because the effects of dealing with China with this would be

simply too high.

And, of course, those are two of the biggest trading partners. I thought it was really interesting that he's no place with the Canadians who, of

course, believe that the real purpose here is to force them to become the 51st state, as the president has put it. And that's raised to

understandably a nationalistic reaction in Canada, just what you would expect.

I think the markets are reacting with a little bit of memory of how they reacted in April during Liberation Day, a little less reaction than we had

at that time. But at that time, there was a big fall in the markets.

Then it came back because people believed, well, this isn't going to be horrific. It's just going to be, you know, out -- outrageous numbers. And

then it completely recovered. And now I think people are beginning to think there could be some long-term effects here.

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He has scored some big short-term victories with Japan, with the European Union. He's gotten these big payments for that he can go look at and, you

know, and direct himself. But we're just beginning to discover what the long-term cost of these may be.

ASHER: Especially given that, now we're seeing this show up in the jobs numbers, not just in terms of this month, but with the downward revisions

from both June and May.

SANGER: From the previous.

ASHER: Right. So, we're learning that actually this economy isn't as resilient as we thought it was.

David Sanger, we have to leave it there. I am out of time, but I wish you a wonderful weekend. Thank you so much for joining us.

SANGER: You too. Thank you. Great to be with you.

ASHER: Of course. The White House says it is ready to build the ballroom of Trump's dreams. It says construction will begin next month on the $200

million project, which it says will be funded by President Trump and private donors.

The fitting Trump style of ballroom would be -- will be adorned in gold and large crystal chandeliers.

Let's bring in CNN's Kevin Liptak with more on this. Kevin, gold and crystal. I would expect nothing less, right?

KEVIN LIPTAK, CNN SENIOR WHITE HOUSE REPORTER: Yes.

ASHER: Very Trumpian.

LIPTAK: Yes, it's a shock. And actually, when you look at the rendering, it's kind of amazing. It's the coffered ceiling with the gold and like.

These enormous crystal chandeliers, these Corinthian columns. It's kind of got the Versailles-Louis-Katsouris thing that he's actually used at every

one of his private clubs, including the ballroom at Mar-a-Lago, which I don't know if you've been in it. I have. It looks pretty much identical to

this. It's white and gold with these enormous windows along the wall.

This is an enormous construction. It's 90,000 square feet. That's the size of 19 basketball courts.

And the president says that this is essential because for so many years, the White House has had to build what he thinks is a very ugly big tent on

the South Lawn whenever they want to host more than 200 people at a time, for example, for a big state dinner.

And the president has said that, you know, when it's raining, the women in their gowns and their hair show up to that tent and they look a mess.

And so the president, thinking about the aesthetics of the building, but also about the aesthetics of the people who are attending these events,

very intent, I think, on trying to remedy that.

We heard for him a little bit yesterday talking about his big renovation plans. Listen to more of what he said.

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DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: We've been planning it for a long time. They've wanted a ballroom at the White House for more than 150

years, but there's never been a president that was good at ballrooms. I'm really good.

So we'll be leaving it. It'll be a great legacy project. And I think it'll be special.

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LIPTAK: So, you hear him saying that they've wanted this for a long time. I just talked to the Social Secretary from the Obama administration. They

said there was no discussion about them building this ballroom on the White House, but obviously, the president, very intent, are making these

buildings and these constructions a big part of his presidential legacy.

ASHER: All right. Kevin Liptak, live for us there. Thank you so much. Appreciate it.

All right. In planes, the trains, and automobiles. Heavy rain and flooding has made getting around nearly impossible in the eastern part of the U.S.

We'll look at what's next after the short break.

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ASHER: Gosh. Would you look at that? This hour, millions of Americans are actually drying out after heavy storms and flash flooding along the East

Coast.

This is New York City subway station, drenched. See lots of water piling up there.

In Maryland, actually a boy drowned when he was swept into a drainage pipe. Officials say the 13-year-old was playing in his yard when the water

swelled very, very quickly.

All of this follows a summer of heavy rain and flood waters with essentially nowhere to go. The threat, sadly, is not over yet.

Meteorologist Allison Chinchar explains.

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ALLISON CHINCHAR, CNN METEOROLOGIST: Daily rainfall records were actually set across portions of Pennsylvania, New York, and New Jersey in the last

24 hours leading to scenes like this one.

Here, you can see this roadway in Orange, New Jersey, just completely covered in water making it very difficult for those drivers to get by.

Now, the bulk of the rain in the Northeast and the Mid-Atlantic has finally moved offshore. We've still got a few showers across portions of the

Southeast and that's where most of the activity is going to ramp up not just later today, but even as we head into the weekend.

You're really going to see a lot of those showers and thunderstorms hovering across the Southeast as well as the central portion of the

country. And these are going to be the areas where we have that biggest risk for flooding.

Any area you see here in green has the potential for excessive rainfall, but these little pockets of yellow here, including Dallas and Charlotte,

North Carolina. Those have a slightly higher risk of having potential flooding just because of the volume of rain that's expected in a very short

period of time through the weekend.

Overall, most of these totals for a lot of these areas, you're looking at one to three inches over the next several days. But those pockets you can

see here of that orange and red color, especially down across the Southeast, that's where we could be looking at three to five inches of

rain.

Some of those spots will have that rain spread out over three days. Others are likely going to get all of that in just 24 hours leading to the

potential flooding, not just in roadways, but also the rivers, creeks and nearby streams.

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ASHER: Allison Chinchar there.

All right. Coming up, the once taboo subject, menopause is gaining some -- gaining some long overdue attention. We need to know about the change of

life, just ahead.

Plus.

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ENTEN: Look at this. I had a full minute. And I did it in a little bit under 51 seconds. Booyah, baby.

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ASHER: CNN's chief data analyst Harry Enten there at the CNN gym, I think. He's digging deep to test the Presidential Fitness Test. Stay tuned for

that story.

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ASHER: Welcome back to "One World." I'm Zain Asher.

Hot flashes, night sweats, and mood swings. Just a few of the changes women get to look forward to when they're going through menopause, a condition

that really doesn't get the attention that it deserves.

According to a survey by the Steven and Alexandra Cohen Foundation, 45 percent of women globally endure symptoms for up to six years before even

recognizing menopause as the cause.

To improve health care, there's a new wave of interest in menopause is sweeping across the U.S. with more than a dozen states adopting new

legislation to support better training for doctors.

According to a survey done by "The M Factor," 79 percent of providers say they've never received any formal training in menopause care to bring much

needed attention and awareness of the so-called change of life.

Celebrities like Oprah, Michelle Obama, and Naomi Watts have openly discussed their own struggles with menopause.

Time now for "The Exchange." Joining me live now is a passionate advocate for women's health, the Executive Director of the Birnbaum Women's

Leadership Center at NYU School of Law, Jennifer Weiss-Wolf. Jennifer, thank you so much for being with us.

It's so true. I mean, menopause is something that is almost like an afterthought when you think about medical care. You know, it doesn't get

the attention that it deserves, first and foremost.

And as I mentioned, doctors really aren't trained in menopause care where they should be. I mean, that is surprising given that 50 percent of the

population does endure menopause at some point.

Just walk us through why change has been so slow, do you think.

JENNIFER WEISS-WOLF, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, BIRNBAUM WOMEN'S LEADERSHIP CENTER, NYU SCHOOL OF LAW: Yes. Well, thank you so much. First of all, for

covering this topic. It is so important to have these conversations in, you know, in mainstream outlets and really do everything we all can to be part

of breaking the stigma.

So, what's super interesting, I think, about the story of menopause is that it hasn't always been, you know, ignored by the political establishment or

the most hush, hush topic.

In the better part of the 20th century, there was also a lot of attention paid to it, including by celebrities, including by members of Congress. But

there was a study that was done a major, a major research initiative, the first ever, in fact, to involve women, 1993, not that long ago.

And that really ended up changing a lot of the discourse about menopause that we've all experienced over the past two decades.

So, it is a new or a renewed thing that we are taking it seriously, that we are bringing it to the screen, like the film you discussed, "The M Factor,"

as well as to the halls of government.

ASHER: Yes. I mean, it's obviously very disheartening for women to have menopause symptoms, essentially dismissed by healthcare providers.

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What should training look like for those healthcare professionals do you think?

WEISS-WOLF: So the -- the stat you -- you -- you shared of roughly 80 percent of doctors not being trained, that has actually been the case for

quite some time, basically since at least 2002.

If doctors were taking menopause seriously and being trained and educated in it, they would know that the hormonal changes that happen are not just a

reproductive subject. It's not just OB-GYNs who need to be talking and thinking about it, but the depletion of estrogen affects all parts of our

body. It affects our brains. It affects our hearts. It affects our bones.

So it's something that all doctors need to know, not just internists, not just OB-GYNs. And it needs to be taught and understood and discussed.

The -- the evolution of treatments for menopause, including hormone treatments, need a lot of modern discussion about what is safe, what are

risks. A lot of that is extremely outdated, and again, rooted in some incorrect or overstated information that made the airwaves in a big way 20

-- 22 years ago.

ASHER: I know that there is a push from New York to California for lawmakers essentially to support more menopause training. There is this

push happening. Where are we in that push?

I mean, obviously, you know, it's obvious why some lawmakers would be in support of this. But why might some lawmakers not be in support? I mean,

obviously for women, it feels like a no-brainer, but why might some law -- lawmakers not be on board?

WEISS-WOLF: Well, it's really interesting. So, you reference these education bills. And again, there were over two dozen bills introduced this

past year to address menopause care. They're not all about improving education. Some are about ensuring that treatments are affordable. Some are

about ensuring that workplaces properly accommodate or don't discriminate against employees who are menopausal. So, it's a wide array of interest on

the part of lawmakers to take on menopause.

As for education, you know, I think that there is -- there's some sensibility that doctors know best and -- and lawmakers should intrude in -

- in medical practice. But what I think is really interesting about the bills that have been introduced and even past California is one of the

states that passed a law last year, ensuring that for doctors who are continuing their professional licensing, which is called continuing medical

education, that they at least have the opportunity to include menopause as part of that professional accreditation.

That is -- that's really what central here that doctors are being told that this is something that needs to be prioritized. It's not lawmakers telling

them what they need to learn or even how they need to learn, but just that they need to learn.

They're -- they're truthfully, not terribly controversial. In the past year where we've seen this uptick in interest, again, dozens introduced eight

are now the law of the land and seven states or the law of the state and seven states, whereby either education is being improved for medical

providers or recommendations about that, where state health departments are being required to provide any and better information about menopause to

constituents and to members of, you know, people who live in that state, as well as states ensuring that medical insurance, public and private covered

menopause treatments, which it does not automatically.

ASHER: Yes. I mean, listen, there is a whole sort of wave of interest now in this arena, which, you know, I think is a wonderful thing because it's

about time. But obviously, we are seeing books, we're seeing podcasts, we're seeing documentaries. There's a woman I follow on social media. I

wish for the life of me, I could remember her name, but she's got millions of followers and all she does is make these really hilarious videos about

menopause symptoms.

You're going to say something?

WEISS-WOLF: I think I know exactly who you're talking about.

ASHER: OK. Tell me.

WEISS-WOLF: That would be Dr. Mary Claire Haver. And we joined forces in January to publish what is called the "Citizens Guide to Menopause

Advocacy." So Dr. Haver and I, together with Maria Shriver, and together with about a dozen menopause experts.

And we put out all these ideas in the "Citizens Guide" so that everyday citizens could advocate for change that lawmakers could know what kind of

changes are visible.

ASHER: Right.

WEISS-WOLF: And we're '-- we're super proud. They actually took it seriously that it's really happening. And, yes, Dr. Haver --

ASHER: Yes.

WEISS-WOLF: -- is a must-watch.

ASHER: Jennifer, we have to leave it there. Thank you so much. Appreciate it.

WEISS-WOLF: Thank you.

ASHER: All right. And now to the Presidential Fitness Test for students in public schools that Donald Trump revived Thursday with another executive

order and our very own chief data analyst Harry Enten decided to test the test to see how he'd fare against a median elementary school student. Take

a look.

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ENTEN: All right. Apparently, we're bringing back the Presidential Fitness Test. So, I've decided, can I actually beat the median sixth grader from

all the way back in 1985? So, this is the first time that I've been to gym since about 1985.

I have to run a quarter of a mile, and get this, about two minutes and 11 seconds, I think it is, or two one.

Someone time me? I'm going to make it. I'm going to make it. I did it. Now, how do I shut this thing off? I'm a mean, mean, running machine.

So, now, I'm in the v-sit and reach part. This is supposedly testing flexibility. This looks basically impossible, but we have the tape measure

there.

And apparently in order to get to the 50th percentile for a six-year-old, I got to reach to the 16 mark.

So, next up is some curl ups. I got to do 22 of these. Twenty-two in a minute. I'm not quite sure I'm going to be able to do it as I can barely

get this yoga mat out. One. Twenty-one. Twenty-two. I did it. I did it.

Look at this. I had a full minute and I did it in a little bit under, 51 seconds. Booyah, baby.

So, now, comes the part I dread most, which is I have to do seven push-ups. My arms are not exactly my strength, despite all my wonderful working out

that I've been putting in all those seconds in the gym up till now.

We're going to go down for one and then two. Oh, my God, it's a miracle. I did it.

So, it's all come down to this. For those of you who don't know what the shuttle run is.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Ready, set, go.

ENTEN: Two markings, 30 feet apart. I got to go down, pick up one of the blocks as being a Diet Coke, bring it back, place it down, then go back,

pick the other one up, and run through the finish line.

I did it in 12.59 seconds. I beat it by just less than a second.

But you know what? Close to failing is not failing, it's a pass.

All right. So, I managed to get four out of five on the Presidential Fitness Test. President Trump, I say bring on the Presidential Fitness Test

because you ain't got nothing on me. Cheers.

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ASHER: I hope that entertained you as much as it did me. Our Harry Enten there.

All right. That does it for this hour of "One World." Two hours actually, technically. Thank you so much for watching. "Marketplace Africa" is up

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