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Putin: Western Troops "Legitimate Targets" If They Are In Ukraine; Kremlin: "Huge Amount Of Work" Needed Before Top-Level Meetings; 475 People Taken Into Custody In Raid At Hyundai Plant In Georgia; Donna Adelson Convicted In Murder-For-Hire Of Son-In-Law Daniel Markel; U.S. Job Growth Slows At A Crawl In August; New Tesla Pay Package Could make Elon Musk A Trillionaire; Carlo Acutis To Be Canonized By Pope Leo On Sunday. Aired 12- 1p ET

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BIANNA GOLODRYGA, CNN ANCHOR: Russia is the only place for peace talks, while threatening that Western peacekeeping troops in Ukraine would be

legitimate targets. We're going to bring you the very latest.

Plus, close to 500 people swept up in an ICE raid. We'll have the details and what happens now for those in custody.

And could Elon Musk be the world's first trillionaire? Tesla is offering just that, if Musk can keep his eyes on the road.

Hello everyone, live from New York. I'm Bianna Golodryga. You are watching the second hour of "One World."

Three weeks after Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin held a high-profile summit in Alaska, the Kremlin says both leaders could meet again soon. But

it's sending mixed messages on whether bilateral talks with Ukraine's president will happen, as Russia continues escalating its war on Ukraine.

In an interview earlier, spokesman Dmitry Peskov said that a huge amount of work needs to be done before any high-level meeting takes place.

Shortly after, the Russian president, again, extended an invitation for Volodymyr Zelenskyy to visit Moscow, something the Ukrainian president has

already rejected.

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VLADIMIR PUTIN, RUSSIAN PRESIDENT (through translator): We said that we're ready for meetings at the highest level.

Listen, the Ukrainian side wants this meeting and is proposing it. I said, I'm ready, please come. We will definitely provide conditions for work and

security, a 100 percent guarantee.

But if they're telling us, we want to meet you, but you go there for this meeting, it seems to me that these are simply excessive demands directed at

us. I repeat once again, if anyone really wants to meet with us, we're ready. The best place for this is the capital of the Russian Federation,

the heroic city of Moscow.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GOLODRYGA: Putin also warned that Western troops would be a legitimate target one day after European leaders agreed on a security plan for Kyiv

once a ceasefire is in place.

Meanwhile, as peace efforts stall, the U.S. president appears to be shifting the blame to Europe, urging leaders to stop buying Russian oil

that's funding Moscow's war machine. It comes as the latest in the series of Trump's deadlines, threatening Putin with economic sanctions expires

today.

CNN's Nic Robertson joins me now live in London.

And, Nic, the president now directing some of his ire toward European officials, definitely sending mixed messages, given that a number of them

were just in the White House, visiting with him a few weeks ago, and he had expressed his support in how they have stepped up over the past few years

to cut their dependency on Russian oil off significantly, and also to step up its support in Ukraine.

So, how should viewers be interpreting this?

NIC ROBERTSON, CNN INTERNATIONAL DIPLOMATIC EDITOR: Yes. It does feel rather as if everyone's pointing fingers at everywhere else. As you've --

as you've mentioned, the Kremlin is giving mixed messages about an impossible to go to meeting in Moscow for President Zelenskyy, who said he

won't go, and President Zelenskyy is doing what he does best, which is to echo what President Trump says to keep him on side, and also say that

European shouldn't depend so much for their energy supplies on -- on -- on Russia.

And President Trump's message is one that's been handed out before. European Union shouldn't buy so much oil and gas from Russia. They've been

stepping it down about 18 percent on average each year since the war began 2022.

But European Union has found itself in an incredibly difficult position because it is incredibly dependent on those energy supplies it tried to

reduce the amount of money that it was sending to Russia by putting a price cap on the gas and oil that it was purchasing.

But it hasn't been able to cut it out altogether, and part of the reason for that is that alternate supplies would have to come by sea and European

ports can't handle that much gas and oil at the moment without massive infrastructure rebuilding.

So caught between a sort of a rock and a hard place, but the criticism is painful for the European Union because there have been years since the war

began where they have spent more money buying Russian gas than supporting Ukraine. And that's -- that's painful for Ukraine as well.

But here's another part of the equation where I say everyone's pointing at everyone. The European Union has been saying that President Trump should

get more serious and put secondary sanctions on -- on -- on countries that buy Russian oil products, you know, India was a country where President

Trump threatened to do that. They want President Trump to get more serious about cracking down on Russia's shadow oil fleet that ships its oil around

the world.

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So, you know, the reality of this moment is that this -- that the war is grinding on slowly in Putin's favor. He seems to be doing a victory lap

after his Alaska and -- and China meetings. And he -- and he gives the impression and speaking from a moment of -- of strength and nobody's going

to knock him off that pedestal.

And I don't think anyone expects a phone call that is expecting to have with President Trump in the coming days would change that. And it will use,

likely use that narrative that he's offering talks to Zelenskyy in Moscow as a swap when President Trump tells him to do more for peace.

GOLODRYGA: Yes. And everyone, whether it's the Europeans, whether it's Ukraine or Russia trying to appeal to Donald Trump and suggesting that they

are doing all they can to bring this war to an end.

It's a game that Vladimir Putin has played with President Trump quite brilliantly in the sense that all of the ire in frustration that President

Trump has expressed towards him verbally hasn't been enacted with any tangible aggression in terms of additional sanctions and retaliation that

he has easily leveled against others including as you noted India for purchasing Russian oil.

What do you make of the fact that President Macron of France also said that in his view Putin has overruled Trump in terms of the direction of where

this war is headed and the urgency of bringing it to an end?

ROBERTSON: Look, I think very much from a European perspective the perception is that President Putin has played President Trump's

gullibility, if you will, that Putin's knowledge of what it would take to continue a conversation and play a conversation along with President Trump,

it would buy him the time to continue his offensive in Ukraine and that's - - that's what has successfully done. And that's the -- the moment we get to almost the end of the summer now and that's been the moment and there's

nothing, even looking forward into next year at the moment, that stops Putin in his belief that he can finance and man a war where he is

incrementally taken ground.

There was, however, a listening earlier to a -- a news report, an -- an interview given by the former army chief of staff here in the U.K. He gave

a fascinating analogy of how slow Putin's advance across Ukraine has been.

He said if you go back to the start of the war 24th of February 2022, if a snail had left the starting position Rostov-on-Don in Russia where the

Russian troops left, today that snail would be halfway through Poland, whereas Putin's troops are still stuck short of their primary goals and

won't make it for another four years at the expense of perhaps another two million casualties.

So, you know, Putin still thinks that he's making those incremental gains and that -- and that's where the initiative appears to be so. So the

frustrations you're hearing coming from the Europeans, you know, I think a deeply felt about how Putin has managed to play President Trump. They were

relying on President Trump to do more and still hope and still know that they need that for a number of years to come.

GOLODRYGA: Yes. The only deliverable I've seen Putin give Donald Trump is by acknowledging that this war wouldn't have started and confirming what

Trump has been saying all along that this war would have never started if he had been president and blaming president Biden essentially for that.

Of course, that -- that's an easy give for Vladimir Putin to -- to make towards Donald Trump an easy gesture to make a counterfactual like that.

All right. Nic Robertson, thank you so much.

Let's bring in Ivo Daalder, a former U.S. ambassador to NATO and a senior fellow at Harvard's Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs. He

is joining me now live. Ambassador, thank you so much for taking the time.

So, what do you make of Putin seemingly renewed confidence on the global stage having now gone to both the United States and China meeting with some

of America's top rivals and adversaries there just as warmly as he was meeting with President Trump who rolled out the red carpet for him in

Alaska a few weeks prior?

IVO DAALDER, FORMER U.S. AMBASSADOR TO NATO: Well, I -- I think he is on the top of the world. He -- he has it all. He's in the love of war. He's

facing a U.S. president who has repeatedly threatened but never delivered on sanctions that the first time, oh, back in February when he started

talking about sanctions. It hasn't delivered. Who gets angry at -- at -- at the allies and blames Ukraine for a war that Vladimir Putin started and

gets a red carpet treatment and indeed a ride in The Beast, the -- the presidential limousine in Alaska.

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And then gets this extraordinary display from first Narendra Modi, the -- the Indian prime minister who goes into the Russian limousine and walks in

hand to hand with him to meet with President Xi Jinping. And then the three of them started saying, we -- we run the world. And -- and -- and I think

that Donald Trump was sitting there saying, why didn't they invite me?

So he has -- he -- he really is from a place of total isolation, which is what he was a few months ago, into a place where he has fed it by the two

most powerful leaders in the world, the President of the United States and the President of China. It's remarkable.

GOLODRYGA: Yes. He -- he -- he did post on Truth Social that he had been watching that conference take place in Beijing in -- in China over the

course of those three days as well as the military parade and had some snide comments to end on there for Putin and Xi.

But again, nothing specific in terms of what is at large arsenal still at his ready in terms of additional sanctions and pressure that he can put on

Vladimir Putin he says that that may indeed come in the future.

In the meantime, we are seeing the Europeans really step up, at least in terms of what a peacetime Ukraine could look like. And that is a -- a big

if because the whole point right now is just getting to a ceasefire.

But this coalition of the willing and Europeans agreeing to even send their own troops to Ukraine to support that peace. You hear Vladimir Putin the

Kremlin saying that they are fair game then if Europeans suddenly end up on non-Ukrainian soil. They've made similar threats in the past. Do you

interpret this time any differently?

DAALDER: No, I don't. I actually think that this is probably the one piece of news that is -- that is good news. And the one piece of news that has

come out of the last three or four weeks of diplomacy, a -- a strengthened commitment by the Europeans to lead a real effort to provide a security

guarantee with tangible presence in Ukraine itself of significant combat capabilities, both on the ground in the air and at sea, backed up very

importantly by old reports and by all accounts, by significant American commitment both to air defense capabilities and to the all-important

intelligence and surveillance and reconnaissance capabilities without which it would be very hard for the Europeans to launch the kind of security

guarantees and mission that they have in mind. So, I think that is significant.

Now, what Vladimir Putin is saying is completely unsurprising. What he wants is he wants to continue the war against the Ukraine. That is -- that

he wants to be weaker and weaker. He wants to divide Ukraine from the Europeans and he wants to divide the Europeans from the United States.

What the Europeans have now demonstrated I think both by being willing to spend the resources necessary to acquire the capabilities to send to

Ukraine or to allow Ukraine to build itself, to defend itself, and this security force that the Coalition of the Willing is putting together 26

countries, not nothing.

They are demonstrating that, no, you're not going to divide us from Ukraine. And -- and we welcome the support of the United States. But what

we do is no longer dependent on what the United States does.

And that's a major step forward. We're not there yet because this force will not be deployed unless there is a peace. And, of course, there is no

peace.

GOLODRYGA: Yes. Of course, President Zelenskyy welcoming any additional support that he can get. But as he's been saying, as many military experts

have been telling me as well that the best line of defense for Ukraine is a strong Ukrainian defense force in their own army to be in top shape and

that would require additional support militarily from the United States in terms of weaponry and as well as obviously from the Europeans.

Ambassador Daalder, thank you so much for your time. Really appreciate it.

DAALDER: My pleasure.

GOLODRYGA: Well, Hyundai says that it's cooperating with law enforcement after hundreds of people were detained in an immigration raid at a plant

under construction in Georgia.

A Homeland Security special agent says 475 people were taken into custody Thursday at the construction site. Within the last couple of hours,

officials addressed that raid.

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STEVEN SCHRANK, SPECIAL AGENT, HOMELAND SECURITY: This has been a multi- month criminal investigation where we have developed evidence, conducted interviews, gathered documents and presented that evidence to the court in

order to obtain a judicial search warrant. Yesterday, we executed that search warrant and gathered additional evidence that will support this

investigation. (END VIDEO CLIP)

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GOLODRYGA: Once the plant opens, it will produce batteries for Hyundai's electric vehicles. The White House says, any foreign workers brought in for

specific projects must enter the United States legally and with proper work authorization.

Isabel Rosales is in Atlanta with the latest. So, we heard that response from the White House saying that in essence defending what we saw play out

at this plant in Georgia.

Is this a sign of what's to come at other facilities in the United States?

ISABEL ROSALES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Certainly the ante is being upped here, Bianna. And what we're learning about this particular operation, you

mentioned that there were 475 people that were apprehended. Well, we're told by officials, by Homeland Security Investigations, that those people

were either in the country illegally or working illegally. The majority of them being Korean nationals.

Now, we're also told that no charges have been filed with these people that were apprehended. But this raid, to your point Bianna, marks the largest

single site enforcement operation in HSI history.

Now, the U.S. Attorney's Office says that this operation was part of operation take -- this case was part of Operation Take Back America, excuse

me, with over 400 agents participating in this raid.

And they said that the goal here with executing this federal search warrant and this raid on this site was to reduce illegal employment, prevent

employers from gaining an unfair advantage by hiring unauthorized workers and to protect unauthorized workers from exploitation.

Now, I want to show you this video that CNN newly obtained that shows a moment there within this construction site, a battery building facility

that was being put up to eventually go to EV vehicles. Watch.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: For this entire construction site, OK? We're Homeland Security. We have a search warrant for the whole site. We need construction

to cease immediately. We need all work to end on the site right now.

For this entire construction site, OK? We're Homeland Security. We have a search warrant for the whole site. We need construction to cease

immediately. We need all work to end on the site right now.

For this entire construction site.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

ROSALES: You can see there, Bianna, construction workers wearing the hard hats, wearing the safety vests lined up as an agent there is telling them

to cease work as they execute that federal search warrant.

Now, we did get just in the last 10 or so minutes an updated statement from Hyundai Motor Company, telling CNN that it is aware of this incident and is

closely monitoring the situation, gathering information and also saying this, as of today, it is our understanding that none of those detained is

directly employed by Hyundai Motor Company. We prioritize the safety and well-being of everyone working at the site and comply with all laws and

regulations wherever we operate.

Now, HSI is saying that those detained individuals work for a variety of different companies there at the site, essentially subcontractors.

Bianna.

GOLODRYGA: All right. Isabel Rosales, thank you so much.

Authorities in Portugal are working to figure out why a funicular in Lisbon derailed, killing 16 people and injuring more than 20 others as the country

is now observing three days of mourning.

Eyewitnesses say the tram careening down a hill before crashing into a building at full speed. Authorities are not yet naming the victims, but say

foreign nationals were among the dead and injured.

Portugal's president and prime minister paid their respects to the victims on Thursday, laying flowers near the site of the derailment.

Britain's embattled labor government is facing further uncertainty and another major setback following the departure of one of its top leaders.

Deputy Prime Minister Angela Rayner has resigned after admitting that she failed to pay enough property taxes on her second home. Rayner, who also

served as housing secretary, insists she made a mistake.

David Lammy, who has been serving as foreign secretary, has been appointed as her replacement. That all comes as pressure mounts on Prime Minister

Keir Starmer's government, which is already facing low poll numbers and lagging significantly behind the anti-immigrant reform U.K. party.

Well, a messy divorce, a bitter custody battle and a murder-for-hire plot. A Florida grandmother accused of killing her former son-in-law finds out

her fate. We'll have details ahead.

And you're looking at the man who could be the world's first trillionaire. Why not? He's already the richest man in the world. Why Tesla wants to make

that a reality?

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GOLODRYGA: We turn to Florida now where more than a decade after a hitman gunned down a Florida State University law professor, his former mother-in-

law has been convicted of orchestrating the killing.

Adelson is the fifth person put on trial for the murder of Daniel Markel, who was locked in a bitter custody battle with his ex-wife. Adelson broke

down in court Thursday as the verdict was read.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We have a jury find as follows as the count one of the indictment first-degree murder.

The defendant is guilty of first-degree murder. Mrs. Adelson, control yourself.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GOLODRYGA: All right. Let's bring in CNN's Jean Casarez who is joining us now from New York.

Donna Adelson there learning her fate, breaking down in tears. Jean, I would imagine from your perspective and covering this trial, that shouldn't

be seen as much of a surprise though.

JEAN CASAREZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: No, but it went on from there. She couldn't get a control of herself. The judge had to tell the jury, the jury

needs to leave right now. They got people around her and the judge said, you know, Mrs. Adelson, maybe this isn't what you wanted, but this is the

result. And we're going to have to remove you from the court room if you don't get control of yourself. So she did.

But then at the end, he said he needed the jail alerted for her to be put in an area where she will not create self-harm to herself. So it went on

from there.

But this is a circumstantial case. And she was convicted not only of first- degree murder, but solicitation to commit murder and conspiracy to commit murder.

Now, she didn't pull the trigger. That was the hitman. But she did encourage aid and assist. So she acted as a principal right there.

It was a circumstantial case, but it was such a strong case. There were so many different things beginning from that divorce where she took control

and set a plan of action. We are going to get the kids and you back up to South Beach and he's going to stay in Tallahassee. And we're not going to

take no for an answer. And she kept plotting and planning things.

Now, yesterday, the parents of Dan Markel, because there is a victim in this case, they live in Toronto. They were in the courtroom. And although

the sentencing is in October, they gave victim impact statements, which will go on the record last night.

And Dan Markel's father, he was second to go up, but he talked about that in the Jewish faith, there is a tradition that you want to wish someone

well and you wish them that they will live to be 120 years old.

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Well, he went with that theme as he was concluding on Donna Adelson. Take a listen.

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PHIL MARKEL, FATHER OF DAN MARKEL: For Donna, I wish her to live to 120 alone in her jail cell. I wish that every day of her remaining days, she

thinks about the harm she has caused to so many, especially those two boys she claims to have loved so much.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

CASAREZ: And then he went on to say, that I have just one more thing and I have a question to ask, was this all worth it? And he turned around and he

looked at her. She's looking at him and he walked back to his seat. And his wife also gave a victim impact statements.

And you know what's so sad? Another sad thing here, Bianna, is that they virtually has had no contact with their grandchildren. The two little boys

that were three and four, now they're thirteen and fourteen, and the mother, according to what the prosecutor says, what we heard in court, what

we've heard from the family, Wendi Adelson does not really allow Dan Markel's family to have that contact.

And they just passed legislation a couple years ago in Florida which is called the Grandparents Act. They're dubbing at the Dan Markel Act. And

it's to allow grandparents to have more access, but they still have had some roadblocks there. And so the goal is for them to have a relationship

with these two boys that have lost so much.

GOLODRYGA: You could sense the pain in their grandfather's voice there as he was giving his victim impact statement and those two boys arguably the -

- the biggest victims here and all of this.

Jean Casarez, thank you so much.

CASAREZ: Thank you.

GOLODRYGA: And coming up for us, Elon Musk electrified the auto industry literally. Well, now Tesla wants to power up his pay package. Consequences

of extreme wealth, just ahead.

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GOLODRYGA: Welcome back to "One World." I'm Bianna Golodryga.

President Trump says the U.S. is now the hottest country in the world, but the jobs market is cooling fast.

New numbers from the Bureau of Labor Statistics show the U.S. economy gained just 22,000 jobs in August and the unemployment rate ticked up to

4.3 percent. That's far fewer than the 76,500 jobs that economists had expected.

Now, the warning signs have been flashing for some time, so Wall Street wasn't really surprised by the news. The markets are down slightly.

Investors feeling optimistic that the Fed will now be lowering interest rates soon.

Harry Enten joins me now on how Americans are viewing the economy. Harry, what topic can you not cover? You're just a jack of all trades and a master

of them all. Let me just put -- say that.

HARRY ENTEN, CNN CHIEF DATA ANALYST: Thank you.

GOLODRYGA: A happy Friday note to you, my friend.

So, how are Americans feeling about what Trump is describing as the -- the hottest country in the world?

ENTEN: Yes. I think that they disagree. I think that they -- they see this as an ugly duckling with no signs that it's turning into a beautiful swan.

What are we talking about here? What are we talking about?

Well, let's take a look here. U.S. economy is getting worse. In November of 2024, 42 percent of Americans said the economy was getting worse. Look at

where we are now in September of 2025, 56 percent of Americans think the economy is getting worse. Just 27 percent say it's getting better.

And, of course, Bianna, it's so important to note that Trump was reelected in the first place because he was going to make the economy better. But at

this point, the American people think the economy is getting worse.

Now, of course, when we've been talking about the economy getting worse, we've generally been talking about tariffs, right? We've been talking about

inflation, the idea that Americans don't think that Trump's doing enough to bring down the inflation rates, bring down the cost of living.

But now the problems for Trump have expanded in the minds of the American people. And the problems with the economy have expanded.

What are we talking about? Well, of course, we were mentioning the jobs report today. Well, in jobs and employment, we are on the wrong track of

the right track. Well, back in January, get this, 40 percent of Americans said we were on the right track. That was higher than the percentage who

said we were on the wrong track at 32 percent.

Flash forward now. Look at the latest reading that we have from August. Forty-eight percent now say that we are on the wrong track, a significant

rise from that 32 percent back in January. The right track number down, down to 33 percent a drop of seven points.

So if plurality saying we were on the right track back in January, and now the clear plurality saying that we are on the wrong track.

And yes, yes, this is absolutely impacting Donald Trump's approval rating on this issue. And this to me is the most worrisome comparison that Donald

Trump can have.

What am I talking about here? Well, let's compare him to himself in January and Joe Biden back in December of 2024, who, of course, was in the real

basement when it came to basically across the board.

We'll get this. Now Donald Trump has managed to go below the basement. What are we talking about here?

Net approval rating on jobs and employment. Look at where Donald Trump is now. Minus 13 points. That is way down, way down from plus nine points at

the beginning of his term.

And more than that, Bianna, that minus 13 points is somehow even worse where Joe Biden was at minus eight points.

Joe Biden, of course, had historically bad approval ratings. And now we're talking about the key issue, the issue of jobs and employment that

oftentimes drive whether or not presidency's rise or die. And Donald Trump's in a worse position than Joe Biden. Uh-oh, that is all I can say.

Uh-oh.

It may be a pleasant Friday for the two of us. But for Donald Trump, this jobs report means it's a quite unpleasant Friday.

GOLODRYGA: Well, the president likely had a sense of what these numbers would look like last night when he was meeting with tech titans and CEOs,

which is probably why he said that the true numbers will not be reflected for another year or so, another year or so.

ENTEN: Yes. Yes, OK.

GOLODRYGA: But says just weeks before the midterm elections. You look skeptical, Harry.

ENTEN: I'm extremely skeptical. The way you know if Donald Trump believes the numbers real or not is whether or not it's good for him. If it's good

for him, he thinks it's real. If it's bad for him, all of a sudden, oh, we won't know the real numbers until down the road, right?

I mean, it's the clearest, most obvious thing in American politics these days.

GOLODRYGA: All right. Something that's obvious in American politics these days is that we love a good interview segment with Harry Enten. We'll take

it every single day we can. Good news or bad news makes us happy.

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ENTEN: Good.

Harry Enten -- finish your sentence. Finish your sentence.

ENTEN: No, no. I was just saying good Friday to you. That was all I was going to say. Good Shabbos. Good Friday. That's it.

GOLODRYGA: Good Shabbos. Shabbat Shalom, Harry Enten, my friend.

Shabbat Shalom. See you. Bye.

GOLODRYGA: Take care.

All right. Well, Elon Musk is already the richest person on the planet. We knew that. And now he appears to be in line for an unprecedented payday

that could make him the world's first trillionaire. That's because Tesla is offering its CEO more than 420 million additional shares of Tesla stock.

But that stock would need to reach an overall value of eight and a half trillion dollars for Musk to get all of the shares. That's roughly double

the current market value of Nvidia, the world's most valuable company right now.

Well, time for "The Exchange." And just out of curiosity, we ran some numbers, a person making $100,000 a year would need to work for about 10

million years to earn $1 trillion. So there you go.

OK. Now that I've got your full attention, you know, you're going to have to work for many, many, many more years to come to reach that net worth.

I want to bring in Peter Goodman, global economic correspondent at "The New York Times" and author of "Davos Man: How the Billionaires Devoured the

World."

Well, the billionaires look like peons. Now if we're talking about trillionaires, Peter. Just your perspective --

PETER GOODMAN, GLOBAL ECONOMIC CORRESPONDENT, THE NEW YORK TIMES: Right.

GOLODRYGA: -- that we're even having this conversation now about the -- the chance that Elon Musk could be the world's first trillionaire. What does

that tell you about the state of our economy today?

GOODMAN: Well, it tells you that our economy is doing what it's been designed to do. And that is send more wealth to the people who started out

with most of it, to begin with. I mean, we have lived through an extraordinary period in the U.S., but similar trends around the globe in

recent decades where we've seen extreme global inequality.

And we've seen the winners in that equation take their money, purchase political power, and tilt the workings. I mean, rewrite the rules for the

economy that we're all living in, in order to make it easier for them to make more money. And this is a direct outgrowth of that project.

GOLODRYGA: Yes. And you've argued that the real question is, who makes the rules and for whose benefit? What does Tesla's loyalist board now and their

willingness to put so much stake into Elon Musk literally? What does that say about corporate governance in America?

GOODMAN: Well, I mean, it tells us that there isn't a lot of transparency. There aren't a lot of people looking out for shareholder interest most

broadly.

But you know what, let's set that aside. Let's assume that despite the fact that Tesla's board is full of people picked by Musk to help Musk. Let's

just give them the benefit of the doubt. Maybe this is a great deal for Tesla shareholders. And this is a good way to generate higher stock returns

and make people who own those shares richer.

What's in it for everybody else? I mean, first of all, we should be skeptical of how this equation has been derived, given that we know that

Tesla has suffered enormous brand damage at the hand of Elon Musk worldwide.

We've got large numbers of people now in Europe, especially in China, but also in the U.S. who now view Tesla as a -- as a brand that represents Musk

who has attacked American democracy, who has slashed the point where we you can't take off at Newark Airport without wondering if there's anybody

manning the air traffic control towers, making sure the planes don't collide.

I mean, you could come up with just scores of examples of -- of dysfunction. And people see this and they blame Musk and that's -- that's

hit Tesla in terms of its reputation.

But where is the societal benefit in having one person control that kind of wealth? And I --I -- I think that we've all having come through the

pandemic and -- and seeing how -- how much inequality there was in that experience.

We -- we can see it just with our own eyes. You don't need a doctor in economics to walk around and realize that there are a handful of people who

are living extremely well. And there are large numbers of people who feel like they're struggling just to put groceries on the table, just to think

about going to see a doctor, to get their kids to college if they're fortunate enough to get that far.

And that level of dysfunction is merely amplified when you turn mere billionaires into trillionaires.

GOLODRYGA: Well, people like Musk and those who support him would say the societal benefit is technological innovation. And that is something that he

has worked towards throughout his career, whether it's electric -- electric vehicles, whether it's SpaceX, and now he -- he wants to go into the world

of rockets and humanoid rockets and other robo taxis as well.

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Let me play the contrarian here because, yes, these numbers sound huge, but they are --

GOODMAN: Sure.

GOLODRYGA: -- just fanciful at this point. The truth is, and I -- I would like to read from how Andrew Ross Sorkin interpreted it in DealBook this

morning. This deal is the most honest attempt at pay for performance by any company out there. Musk gets nothing if he doesn't reach these milestones

and must also hold the shares for at least seven and a half years to cash in on any of the stocks.

So, what is the downside here, given that he has to have skin in the game to reap any of these rewards?

GOODMAN: Sure. Look, the idea that you reward as for increased share prices is hard to argue with, right? And the fact that it's a -- it's a longer

term incentive structure seems healthier than simply running companies quarter to quarter. We know how that story plays.

You just cut costs, you often diminish services. And by the time everybody realizes you've destroyed the company, you've already cast your options and

you're somewhere far away.

So, you know, that part's good and positive, but we should be really careful that we don't buy into this false binary. The people like Elon Musk

and other billionaires tell us in trying to legitimate this system that we're all living in that, you know, you can either have the miracles of

modern drugs and the internet and, you know, conveniences like central air conditioning and -- and -- and the digital future or, you know, we're

Venezuela if we go monkeying around with the tax code.

We -- we can't have the innovation without -- without having the extreme inequality. And that's just simply not true.

I mean, we -- we've lived through periods of American history where we've had less inequality. We've had more progressive taxation. We've had more

people with healthcare. We've had more affordable housing. We've had -- we've still had incredible innovation.

There are ways to incentivize the system to deliver innovation. And there's nothing wrong with the winners.

GOLODRYGA: Oh. I believe we -- we lost Peter Goodman there as he was finishing out his point. We appreciate his time though.

Peter Goodman, global economic correspondent at "The New York Times."

Well, dramatic video from the waters off of Turkey's coast shows the moment a luxury yacht tipped over and sank on what's reported to be its maiden

voyage. NDTV World reports that the brand-new million dollar yacht had launched just minutes before it went down.

Reports say the yachts owner, captain and two crew members were on board at the time. All of them jumped into the water and were rescued safely.

All right. Up next for us on "One World," the first ever millennial saint. Why Catholics all over the world feel such a connection to this young man.

I'll tell you more when we come back.

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GOLODRYGA: Well, Catholics, young and old, are flocking to Rome for a special ceremony this weekend. Pope Leo is set to canonize a boy who died

when he was just 15 years old, but he was credited with performing two miracles during his short life.

CNN's Vatican correspondent Christopher Lamb has the story.

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CHRISTOPHER LAMB, CNN VATICAN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): God's influencer. An Italian teenager who is a computer whiz kid and love video games. Carlo

Acutis will become the first Millennial Saint.

LAMB: Now when people think of saints, they often imagine men with beards and robes and something from the past. But Carlo Acutis, as you can see, is

someone who was laid out with jeans and trainers. So he's a very relatable saint.

And at a time when the Catholic Church is seeking to connect with a younger generation, this figure of Carlo Acutis has a lot of resonance today.

LAMB (voice-over): He died aged 15 of leukemia in 2006 and has developed a global following.

OLIVIA SANTARELLI, PILGRIM: He's just like us. He is just like a regular teenage guy and he had the same interests. He liked sports, he liked the

internet, of course. And so, yes he is -- he really just represents young people.

GARY FRIESEN, PILGRIM: I feel like I have a closer connection to him because I was born on the year that he died and I have the same hobbies as

him. And on Instagram, I -- I try to spread the gospel as best as I can.

LAMB (voice-over): Carlo's path to sainthood has been swift, but his mother, Antonia, said he wasn't raised in a religious household, his faith

partly nurtured by his Polish nanny.

ANTONIA SALZANO, CARLO ACUTIS' MOTHER: I was converted by my son, he was my savior.

LAMB (voice-over): He grew up in a wealthy family but used his privileged position to help others, donating pocket money to the homeless while

setting up a website to document reports of miracles.

Candidates for sainthood usually need two miracles attributed to their intercession.

Carlo's included a reported healing of a Brazilian boy with a birth defect and a young woman from Costa Rica injured in a bicycle accident in

Florence.

Interest in Acutis is global, his tomb here in Assisi received almost a million visitors last year and an official shrine has been set up in

Pennsylvania.

Carlo's mother describes him as a normal child who enjoyed playing on his PlayStation and made videos of his family pets. He also stood up for pupils

being bullied at school.

Antonia believes his message can resonate with young people today.

SALZANO: It's a message of -- of hope because Carlo said, yes, you have to use for the good. This is the -- the motive why Pope Francis called Carlo

influencer of God.

LAMB (voice-over): Acutis' canonization comes as the church is still reeling from the damage done by the scandals of clerical sexual abuse of

children. But also when research shows a rise in interest in Catholicism among Gen Z, many of whom are expected in Rome to witness this video gaming

teenager being declared a saint.

Christopher Lamb, CNN, Rome.

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GOLODRYGA: All right. Thanks to Christopher Lamb for bringing us that story.

And when one world returns, a very different story the NFL season kicked off last night, but the action on the field wasn't the biggest story from

the game. We'll tell you what happened. Some of the details were quite shocking and they happened in the first few seconds of the game. I watched

it. We'll bring you those details, up next.

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GOLODRYGA: A new Guinness World Record has been set by the same man who was the previous record holder. 102-year-old Kokichi Akuzawa was once again the

oldest person to reach the summit of Mount Fuji. Beating a record he first set when he was a more youthful, 96 years old.

Mount Fuji is Japan's most famous and tallest mountain. Akuzawa said that he almost gave up halfway up to the top but managed to keep going with the

help of his family. He says now he's hanging up his hiking boots for good. Amazing.

And Amanda Anisimova beat Naomi Osaka after an epic come-from-behind win and is heading to her first U.S. Open women's singles final. The American

who was Wimbledon Cinderella's story proved that her run there was no accident. She defeated two time U.S. Open champion Osaka in Queens past

midnight, terribly early this morning.

Anisimova held off one last furious rally from the Japanese star. And finally, on her third match point, the American had the crowd cheering her

on before a stellar forehand forcing Osaka into a final error. She will be facing Aryana Sabalenka in Saturday's final.

And the NFL season got underway Thursday night with a game featuring the defending Super Bowl champions and their archrivals. And it had a bit of

everything, including players being ejected and a huge lightning strike, which brought on a weather delay.

CNN's Coy Wire was there and has all of the details.

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COY WIRE, CNN WORLD SPORT: This was one of the wildest NFL season openers I can remember right here in Philadelphia. We had players getting in spats on

the field. We had lightning. We had players getting spat on.

A beautiful night in Philadelphia. The Super Bowl banner being unveiled for the defending champions. Philadelphia's own Boys II Men singing the

national anthem. Fireworks going off. And then a different type of fireworks.

After the opening kickoff, Eagles star defender Jalen Carter spit on Cowboys quarterback Dak Prescott. Carter, ejected from the game. From a

different angle, you can see Prescott actually spit first towards the ground there when the two were far apart. Carter walked over and spit right

on Prescott's chest.

The Eagles actually lost two players before their first snap. Another player got injured on the opening kickoff.

Things calmed down a bit and the Cowboys offense came out hot, scoring the first touchdown of the new NFL season. They scored all 20 points on their

first four drives. Eagles started off hot too, right there with them, scoring touchdowns on their first three drives.

Star quarterback Jalen Hurts led the team in rushing, had two rushing touchdowns. It was 21-20 at halftime.

And in the third quarter, a huge storm rolled through. We had a weather delay. Cowboys' Trevon Diggs, he got so hungry at one point, he walked over

to where the fans are in the club to get some food.

After an hour delay, the game continued and this was the moment about two minutes ago, Cowboys All-Pro receiver CeeDee Lamb having a great game,

seven catches 110 yards, but he just misses what would have been an incredible catch on fourth, down the Eagles, hanging on to pull off a 24-20

win on a wild and wacky opening night.

Here's Jalen Hurts after the win.

JALEN HURTS, EAGLES QUARTERBACK: It means everything to come out and start strong. It's a new team. It's a new journey. And we -- we got tested

tonight. They played a hell of a game. We know how they are when Dak is back. And they got their -- their -- their crew all together.

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And so a lot of respect for that team on the other side. We just got to clean up some things and we play better football. But, you know, always

good to say that and find a way to win.

WIRE: All right. So the Eagles' quest to repeat off to a great start and NFL fans quest for more football continues tonight.

A colossal clash that promises to be a carnival of gridiron greatness. The Chargers facing off against the fighting Swifties AKA Kansas City Chiefs,

in a divisional showdown in Sao Paulo Brazil.

Chiefs looking to avenge that tough Super Bowl loss to the Eagles last season. Get their dynasty back long track. Just nine combined points

separated these two squads in their two head-to-head matchups last season. Get your caipirinhas ready and continue those fantasy football lineups

because we have another good one happening tonight.

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GOLODRYGA: Well, I'm so happy football season is back.

All right. That does it for "One World." Thanks so much for watching. I'm Bianna Golodryga. "Amanpour" is up next.

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