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New Data: Nearly 75K Arrested With No Prior Record; President: Coup Attempt In Benin Thwarted; Paramount Makes Hostile Bid For Warner Bros. Discovery; 7.6 Earthquake Triggers Tsunami Warnings For Eastern Japan; Cockpit Audio Reveals Chaos From 2023 In-Flight Emergency; Trump Administration Purges More Immigration Judges; Water Leak In Louvre Damages Hundreds Of Books; "One Battle After Another"; Aired 12-1p ET
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ZAIN ASHER, CNN ANCHOR: The Trump administration vowed to get the worst of the worst during its immigration crackdown.
BIANNA GOLODRYGA, CNN ANCHOR: The second hour of "One World" starts right now.
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TOM HOMAN, WHITE HOUSE BORDER CZAR: We're looking for public safety threats, national security threats, and illegal aliens. Nothing changed,
Dana, from day one.
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GOLODRYGA: Brand-new data tells a different story, however. We'll bring you the details just ahead.
ASHER: Also ahead, the president of Benin says a coup attempt has been thwarted, but he's valuing retribution. Ahead, we'll look at why there has
been so much unrest, particularly in West Africa.
Plus.
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BRIAN STELTER, CNN MEDIA CORRESPONDENT: this is one of the great, very dramatic, very public business tug-of-war over the future of Warner Bros.
Discovery.
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GOLODRYGA: Hostile takeover. Paramount wants Warner Bros. Discovery, and it isn't going down without a fight.
ASHER: And later, the glitz, the glam, the snub. Who's in and who's out as the Golden Globes kicks off award season?
All right. Coming to you live From New York, I'm Zain Asher.
GOLODRYGA: And I'm Bianna Golodryga. You're watching the second hour of "One World."
For months, the Trump administration has said that the fierce crackdown on illegal immigration was necessary to protect Americans from violent
criminals.
ASHER: Right. However, new data released today paints a very different picture of those immigration arrests. According to a Data Deportation
Project, nearly a third of those detained actually have no criminal records. That lines up with previous CNN reporting, which found less than
10 percent of detained immigrants had any serious criminal convictions.
GOLODRYGA: CNN's Maria Santana joins us now live from New York with the details. So, Maria, we have this new data. It contradicts what the White
House, what the administration said their objective was here in this policy. Where does that leave things now, though?
MARIA SANTANA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes. Hi, Bianna, Zain. And this is a pattern that I have seen in my own reporting. I focus on about half a dozen
families, who all had something in common. You know, they'd had a loved one detained, who pretty much had no criminal records. And many of them had
lived in this country for decades. That's the story of, for example, some parents out in Chicago.
They have four children who have lived in the United States for 18 years. They had been held for over two months, released only after a judge's order
in Chicago. And they had absolutely no criminal record, given the background check that we did on these parents.
And tonight, that data, that new data, shows that these are far from isolated cases. According to the Data Deportation Project, of the 220,000
arrests that have happened in the last nine months, nearly 75,000 people had no criminal records.
And this is something that the administration, as we heard Tom Homan say, has repeatedly framed as a necessary crackdown to protect Americans from
violent criminals, saying that they are going after national and public safety threats, but these numbers obviously tell a different story.
And -- and as you said, this data mirrors earlier CNN reporting that found that less than 10 percent of immigrants taken into custody since last
October had any serious criminal convictions. The overwhelming majority had clean records or only minor infractions. These were people with jobs, who
were paying taxes, who were raising families. And in many cases, had been living in the U.S. for many years.
Now, the impact of this policy has been felt, mostly in Democratic led cities where ICE activity has surged. Let's take a look at New Orleans,
Louisiana, where the immigration sweep known as Catahoula Crunch is underway. Officials have released almost no details about who's being
detained there.
But internal briefings and data reviewed by the "Associated Press" showed that less than a third of the 38 people arrested in the first two days of
that operation had criminal records beyond traffic violations.
So, this is why we have seen so many protests in these cities. Why immigrant advocates have said that, you know, this proves that communities
have -- what communities have been voicing for months, that the administration's approach is sweeping up, you know, far more long-time
residents, people with families, separating hardworking families, than violent offenders. Bianna, Zain.
ASHER: Right. Because the administration vowed to go off to the worst of the worst. That's clearly not the case, especially when you see so many
people who don't have criminal records being swept up.
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So just in terms of the legal recourse for those individuals who really shouldn't be part of this, what are those?
SANTANA: Well, you know, it's very limited of legal recourse that most of these people have because of their status and because the federal
government has, you know, just a sweeping ability and -- and laws are in their favor in this case.
But there are several organizations and advocacy groups like the ACLU that have been suing in federal courts about these arrests of people with no
criminal records, families that have been separated and laws that also have been violated, for example, in Chicago, a federal judge ordered the release
of 600 -- over 600 people who had been detained, swept up in the operation, Midway Blitz down in Chicago because they had been arrested without
warrants, which violated an agreement that was reached in 2022 in that city about warrantless arrests.
So that's pretty much the recourse that most of these people have. We have seen also that the administration has been doing these fast, expedited
deportations, people have been self-deporting as well in order to not have to go through the detention process.
So, there's a lot that people cannot do in this case, even though there are some legal recourses that are being taken up by these advocacy groups.
GOLODRYGA: All right. Tom Homan suggest -- suggest that if people sometimes get swept up wrongly, they'll be detained for a short period of time and
then released, and in his view, sort of no harm, no foul.
ASHER: Right.
GOLODRYGA: Obviously, though, this has created a lot of concern, a lot of chaos.
Maria Santana, thank you so much.
SANTANA: Thank you.
ASHER: In London, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy huddled with European leaders today. This coming just days after fraught peace talks in
the U.S.
Here you see British Prime Minister Keir Starmer, a French president, Emmanuel Macron and German Chancellor, Friedrich Merz, all meeting up at a
Downing Street at a show of solidarity.
GOLODRYGA: Ukraine is looking for a breakthrough in peace talks, though territory and security guarantees remain longstanding sticking points.
And Moscow isn't giving in to its maximalist demands. Over the weekend, both U.S. and Ukrainian negotiators walked away with few new developments.
And U.S. President Trump and his own son, Donald Trump, Jr. are once again criticizing Zelenskyy and blaming him for not doing enough.
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DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: We've been speaking to Ukrainian leaders, including Zelenskyy, President Zelenskyy. And I have to
say that I'm a little bit disappointed that President Zelenskyy hasn't yet read the proposal. That was as of a few hours ago. His people love it, but
he hasn't. Russia's fine with it.
Russia's -- you know, Russia -- Russia, I guess, would rather have the whole country when you think of it. But Russia is, I believe, fine with it.
But I'm not sure that Zelenskyy is fine with it.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I mean, obviously, Ukraine has a massive corruption issue. And as you say, they've been --
DONALD TRUMP, JR., PRESIDENT TRUMP'S SON: It was a far more corrupt country than Russia as delegated by the United States government prior to this war.
But then because of the war, and because he's one of the great marketers of all times, Zelenskyy became a borderline deity, especially to the left,
where he could do no wrong.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Is your hunch that President Trump is going to walk away?
TRUMP JR.: I think he may.
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ASHER: An attempt to overthrow rather the government in Benin has been thwarted. The coup plotters, a group of soldiers, appeared on Benin's state
T.V. on Sunday claiming that they had seized power.
GOLODRYGA: But hours later, Benin's president said that the West African nations armed forces with help from Nigeria's jets and troops had foiled
that coup attempt.
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PATRICE TALON, BENIN PRESIDENT (through translator): A small group of soldiers, under the pretext of false claims, began a mutiny with the aim of
attacking the institutions of the Republic and destabilizing our nation.
I have taken the necessary actions to maintain peace to ensure the security and tranquility of all throughout the national territory.
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ASHER: The streets of Benin's capital appear, as is Cotonou, have been quite now, and Benin's president is vowing to punish the coup leaders who
remain at large. Benin is the latest in a string of coup attempts in West Africa.
Christopher Fomunyoh, senior associate for Africa at the National Democratic Institute joins us live now from Washington. Christopher, thank
you so much for being with us.
So you have a sort of string of West African nations predominantly, who have faced either coups or coup attempts in recent years, including, for
example, Niger, Burkina Faso, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, and Mali, for example.
And what's interesting is that a lot of these are former French colonies, and obviously Guinea-Bissau is a former Portuguese colony, but a lot of the
others are former French colonies.
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Just explain -- and -- and a lot of them are predominantly Sahelian as well. Just explain to us why, I mean, obviously, the Benin, which is also
as a former French colony, that was thwarted, the coup attempt there was thwarted.
Just walk us through what is -- I mean, Benin didn't happen in a vacuum, so what is the sort of root cause of these coup or coup attempts in this
particular part of Africa?
CHRISTOPHER FOMUNYOH, SENIOR ASSOCIATE FOR AFRICA, NATIONAL DEMOCRATIC INSTITUTE: Well, first, thanks, Zain, for having me. And it's true that
every country context is very specific, that the domestic grievances that citizens may face in every country, and that the militaries have taken
advantage of may be very specific to that country.
But what we're seeing across the board is a general trend, first of all, of discontent with that's two relationships between former French colonies and
Paris as of today, but also a rural disconnect between the growing aspirations of citizens and the way in which Democratic governance is
delivered. And public services are delivered in some of these countries.
And when those grievances mount, we've seen some militaries take advantage of that right that wave of discontent to then find themselves in state
houses.
Fortunately, it didn't happen in Benin, but you're right that in the past few years, we've seen a succession of military coups that have overthrown
governments, including governments that were democratically elected in West Africa.
GOLODRYGA: Yes. In fact, there have been nine attempted military coups from 2000 to 2023. That's the most we've seen in decades there, which raises the
question about the effectiveness of ECOWAS.
Now, ECOWAS, as we noted, it has said that they would be ordering regional standby for their troops to be there in case this coup was successful in
Benin, thankfully, it was not.
But how would you rate their effectiveness overall over the past few years, given the number of attempted coups we've seen?
FOMUNYOH: Well, I think the default is really not with ECOWAS, but more with how each one of these countries has managed its civil-military
relationships.
What makes it different for Benin is the fact that it was the sitting government, President-President Patrice Talon himself, who immediately
requested Nigerian and ECOWAS assistance to -- to curb or to foil the coup.
In some of the other cases, the governments were already overthrown before ECOWAS tried to get in. And at that point, the -- the -- the lines of
authority, in terms of making the formal legal request were a little wobbly at best.
So ECOWAS has really been tested because in 2001, ECOWAS adopted an additional protocol on democracy and good governance, which held its
governments to standards of governing justly, and which required that ECOWAS would not authorize or recognize military regimes.
And so it's been faced with a situation where in the Sahel, in Bukina Faso, Mali, and Chad, and even Guinea, Conakry, it's hard to take a strong stance
in saying that it would not recognize those regimes that came into power through military coups.
It's been difficult, though, for ECOWAS to reverse the course once they've happened. Unfortunately, in the case of Benin, ECOWAS has not succeeded
yet.
ASHER: Yes. You know, it's interesting because a lot of the other countries where there have been these sort of coup attempts, the environment within
those countries, just in terms of public dissent, has been ripe for an outside group, or perhaps mutiny from soldiers, or someone to sort of try
to take over.
However, what's interesting about Benin, when I was reading about it, is that Benin actually has been one of the more stable democracies in West
Africa for quite some time since 1991. We haven't really seen this kind of event in Benin.
I mean, obviously, since President Talon took over in 2016, there has been a lot of discontent. But just explain to us, just given that Benin is a
little bit, or quite significantly more stable than some of the other countries in its neighborhood, typically, how much is this particular coup
attempt surprise you?
FOMUNYOH: Well, you're -- you're extremely right that these coups do not happen in a vacuum. The militaries ride away from discontent.
However, in the case of Benin, historically, Benin was the first country to begin the transitions of the 1990s, which were described as the third wave
of democratization.
So Benin has always played a trailblazer role in -- from West Africa. And we also had a time when President Talon's term of office is supposed to
expire in April of 2026. So we're five months out of a presidential election in which he will not be a candidate. And so it was a little
surprising to see this coup happen.
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But I would say also that these coups are symptomatic of the imbalance that we see between the growing aspirations for Democratic governors and
freedoms amongst citizens and the incompetence of poor performance that we see in some leaders.
Paradoxically, military regimes also tend to trample on the same freedoms and rights that citizens are aspiring to. And my hope is that people will
come to the realization that the military coup is maybe a short-term solution, but not the long-term solution that can be sustainable in the
long haul.
ASHER: All right. Christopher Fomunyoh, thank you so much for being with us. Senior associate for Africa at the National Democratic Institute. We
appreciate you coming on the show.
GOLODRYGA: We turn now to a media bidding war with the last-minute contender. Again, Paramount has made a hostile bid to buy Warner Bros.
Discovery, that's CNN's parent company, with an all-cash $30 per share offer.
Paramount CEO David Ellison says it's a better deal than the previously agreed bid that Netflix put into play last Friday. Here's what he said
about this on CNBC earlier this morning.
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DAVID ELLISON, CHAIRMAN AND CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER, PARAMOUNT SKYDANCE: We're sitting on wall Street where cash is still king. We are offering
shareholders $17.6 billion more cash than the deal they currently have signed up with Netflix.
And we believe when they see what is currently in our offer, that that's what the vote for.
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ASHER: Yes. That Netflix deal seems to cure on Friday, but now it looks like it could face some roadblocks according to President Trump. He's been
weighing in on the acquisition. While final details haven't been revealed yet, Trump says the deal could be a problem.
Let me just listen to what he had to say.
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TRUMP: Well, that's got to go through a process, and we'll see what happens. That's a -- Netflix is a great company. They've done a phenomenal
job. Ted is a fantastic man. I have a lot of respect for him. But it's a -- it's a lot of market share. So we'll have to see what happens.
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GOLODRYGA: All right. Let's bring in CNN's chief media analyst Brian Stelter for more. We should also note President Trump, just this morning,
attacking Paramount, or, guess not Paramount, but "60 Minutes," the new owner --
STELTER: Yes.
GOLODRYGA: -- of that being Paramount for the interview that they conducted with Marjorie Taylor Greene yesterday. So that just makes this all the more
complex.
But Brian, this is literally something out of succession that we're watching play out right now in real life. You have the Ellison suggesting,
perhaps beyond the board to shareholders of Warner Brothers Discovery that their board may not have been as transparent with them about the better
offer, which he clearly views was theirs. Walk us through the latest dynamics.
STELTER: And David Ellison is saying that all this is going to come out in public, that his messages with WBD CEO David Zaslav will be shared.
Ellison is out there today seeking press and P.R., seeking to make this pitch directly to shareholders. He's even set up a website called
strongerhollywood.com in order to pitch shareholders on his bid.
But notably, he is not raising the price from -- from where he was at last week. He was offering $30 per share last week. Privately now he's doing the
same thing publicly.
WBD, which owns CNN, has not publicly responded to this hostile takeover bid. But my sense behind the scenes is that both WBD and Netflix will stay
the course and will argue that actually in combination in totality, Netflix's offer is superior
That's because Netflix is only making a bid for Warner Brothers and HBO for those entertainment assets, not for CNN or other linear TV channels. If you
add it all together, WDB believes it's valued at more than $30 per share.
So what we might be seeing here is the second or third inning of the baseball game. We might be in a situation where Paramount will be pressured
now to make an even higher bid and we'll see what happens on that front.
At the moment, the ball is back in WBD's court to see if the company has any public response to this hostile takeover bid. But normally, this now
sets up a tug of war. It's going to be a corporate tug of war. And it really is something around succession.
GOLODRYGA: Yes. And as far as things stood Friday over the weekend, it seemed that Paramount, at least the word on the street was that Paramount
put out would just walk away from this, at least for now and watch how things unfolded during the regulatory process, which would take months, if
not years. But once again, a surprise come Monday morning.
Brian Stelter, thank you so much. You've been covering it all for us.
ASHER: Thanks, Brian.
GOLODRYGA: All right. Still to come for us, a powerful earthquake rocks parts of Japan. The latest on the tsunami warning there, just ahead.
ASHER: Plus, catastrophe averted newly released audio kept this a struggle from a 2023 in-flight emergency when an off-duty pilot tried to shut down
the engines. Those details after the break.
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GOLODRYGA: All right. Part of Japan's east coast is under a tsunami warning. This is after a powerful 7.6 magnitude earthquake struck 70
kilometers off the coast.
ASHER: Japan's new prime minister says her government will work closely with local officials to assess the damage and put in place emergency
response measures.
Our Hanako Montgomery is in Tokyo for us with the very latest. Hanako, what is the latest? Walk us through it.
HANAKO MONTGOMERY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, Zain. We know that the Japanese prime minister, as you said, just held a press conference updating the
public about the current situation in Japan after a magnitude 7.6 earthquake hit off the shore of the northern part of the country.
Now, a -- a tsunami warning has been issued for three prefectures. That includes Hokkaido, Aomori and Iwate. Now, these prefectures were very close
to the epicenter. And we've seen videos where there is an immense amount of shaking in people's homes.
We're also getting preliminary reports from the chief cabinet secretary that there have been some reports of damage and injuries in Aomori
Prefecture, which is again in the northern part of the country.
The chief cabinet secretary also said some reports of fires and also ambulance calls have been made in Aomori Prefecture. So we will be updating
you all with all this information as we get more details confirmed in the coming hours.
Now, we also know that the Japan Meteorological Agency has issued an aftershock warning stating that a magnitude eight earthquake or higher now
could occur with a one percent probability in the coming week.
Now, this is a pretty low probability and this is again an advisory that the Japanese government has issued to the public. It's not a hard and fast
rule. They can't guarantee that an earthquake would actually happen.
But the Japanese Meteorological Agency has again analyzed the data, analyzed the seismic activity and they do believe that a magnitude eight
earthquake or higher could potentially occur with slightly higher probability than usual.
So again, Japan is on very high alert at the moment trying to see, of course, if there are going to be any aftershocks that could result in
further damage.
Again, so far, preliminary reports about injuries, but we haven't heard any significant reports of damage or deaths as of now.
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And now also just one last thing about the tsunami warnings. We are seeing in parts of northern Japan waves under one meter hitting a Japan coast. We
haven't seen yet waves higher than one meter. We will be monitoring again those waves to see if they do increase in the coming hours. But so far,
none that measure up to three meters. Zain.
ASHER: all right. Hanako Montgomery, thank you so much.
GOLODRYGA: Two years later, newly released audio reveals the chaos that unfolded when an off-duty Alaska Airlines pilot tried to shut off a plane's
engines midair.
ASHER: In the case files obtained by KGW News captures the struggle in the cockpit from the October 2023 incident. The off-duty pilot seen here being
escorted off the plane. Or in that earlier video there, tried to pull fire suppression handles.
CNN's Pete Muntean explains how the flight crew managed to avert a catastrophe.
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PETE MUNTEAN, CNN AVIATION CORRESPONDENT: This new audio obtained by KGW in Portland gives us the best detail yet of the struggle in the cockpit of
Alaska Airline's Flight 2509. That was back on October 22nd, 2023.
I've been reporting on this case since. Joseph Emerson is the off-duty captain who was riding in the jump seat of that full flight. He later told
investigators he had a mental breakdown and wanted to wake up.
Emerson says that is when he reached for the Embraer 175's engine fire suppression handles. Pulling them, stops the flow of fuel to the engine's
30 to 40 ton jet into a glider.
What you're about to hear is Emerson telling the pilots he was not OK. And then you'll hear the scuffle that followed as the pilots try to stop him
from disabling the plane.
FLIGHT CREW: What's that?
JOSEPH EMERSON, PILOT: I'm not OK.
FLIGHT CREW: What's wrong?
EMERSON: I got to get home.
FLIGHT CREW: You want to be home?
EMERSON: Yes.
FLIGHT CREW: OK.
EMERSON: (BLEEP)
FLIGHT CREW: What's going on?
FLIGHT CREW: Horizon, we need to make an emergency landing.
AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL: I'm sorry. Who was that?
FLIGHT CREW: It's Horizon 2059. We got a jump seater, just tried to shut our engines off. We need to go direct to Portland now.
PLANE ALERT: Throttle. Throttle.
MUNTEAN: The last portion you just heard is the pilots declaring an emergency to air traffic control. Emerson failed in cutting off the plane's
engine power. Pilots made a successful landing with Emerson restrained in flex cuffs in the back.
He was charged with 83 counts of reckless endangerment, 83 counts of attempted murder, two charges for each person on board the flight.
That case wrapped up in court just last month. And the judge sentenced Emerson to time served, meaning, he will not go to prison for his actions.
The judge said pilots are not perfect, but rather human who need help sometimes.
This incident kicked off a huge national conversation about pilot mental health reform, a bill that would make it easier for pilots to seek help for
depression has passed in the House, but has yet to advance in the Senate.
Back to you.
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ASHER: Pete Muntean reporting there.
All right. Still to come, it's not just undocumented immigrants, dozens of America's judges are being targeted in the Trump administration's
crackdown.
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CARMEN REY CALDAS, FORMER U.S. IMMIGRATION JUDGE: To feel like I am the target of politics, and that politics have been placed ahead of experience
and decency, is very difficult.
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GOLODRYGA: All right. Welcome back to "One World." I'm Bianna Golodryga.
ASHER: And I'm Zain Asher.
Troubling new numbers are casting down on the Trump administration's claim that only the worst of the worst are being caught up in its immigration
crackdown.
The Data Deportation Project of the University of California, Berkeley says that nearly 75,000 people were detained over nine months despite having no
criminal record.
This data comes as some Democratic-led cities became targets of immigration raids this weekend.
In Minnesota, the raids focused primarily on the Somali immigrant population. Trump's top border official, Tom Homan, defended the
crackdowns.
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HOMAN: Even we don't know how many illegal Somalis there are, because remember, under the last four years in Joe Biden, there's over two million
gotaways, known gotaways. People caught on video, drone traffic or such a traffic that crossed the border illegally and weren't -- weren't
apprehended, weren't vetted.
And so, you know, what President Trump is doing is fixing the last four years of the open border where millions of people are releasing this
country, and many of them we don't know who they are.
So we're going to do the same thing in the Twin Cities we've done across the -- the nation. We're going to focus on those illegal alien public
safety threats in these cities.
And -- and, you know, if they weren't a sanctuary city, I mean, many of these people would be apprehended in safety and security to county jail.
But because you're a sanctuary city, we've got to send more resources there to flood the zone.
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GOLODRYGA: In New Orleans, the "Associated Press" reports that both the state and federal governments have been closely monitoring online
criticisms of the immigration crackdown as well as tracking anti-ICE protests. Part of Trump's strategy has been to oust about a fifth of
immigration judges nationwide.
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CALDAS: To feel like I am the target of politics, and that politics have been placed ahead of experience and decency, is very difficult.
I've seen attorneys both defense and ICE shake from the screams coming in out of the hallways.
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GOLODRYGA: All right. Time now for "The Exchange." Joining us is Paul Reyes, attorney and immigration analyst. He's also a CNN opinion writer.
Paul, it is good to see you.
So we saw over the weekend, Tom Homan insisting that Americans have nothing to fear, that ICE is only targeting public safety threats. And yet, we're
seeing from documented videos, U.S. citizens being chased, being harassed, schools, emptied, businesses shuttered.
From a legal perspective, when an operation specifically targets one group, say Somali community in one city, Latino community, in another city, does
this cross the definition, the legal line, I guess, and legal definition of targeted enforcement?
PAUL REYES, CNN OPINION WRITER: It -- this -- these types of actions do cross the legal line of targeted enforcement in terms of -- of the
rhetoric, of course, but also in terms of the judicial standards.
The -- our Supreme Court has ruled most recently that immigration agents can stop someone based in part are their ethnic appearance of -- appearance
of ethnicity, where they work or what language they are speaking, but that does come with some limits that there must be probable cause.
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And so when we see these results as you're illuminated here of so many U.S. citizens, legal residents, people with lawful status, being arrested,
detained, and in some cases actually deported, that bespeaks the reality of -- of the ground.
And there's been so much reporting about citizens and lawful residents caught up in these types of actions. And -- and for -- for some people who
say that maybe the media is biased or that they're showing on one side of the story, I would point to information from the government, from Homeland
Security. Their own statistics show that 73 percent of people currently in detention have no criminal convictions at all.
So the government's own statistics show that they're not living up to what they say are the standards to go after the so-called worst of the worst.
GOLODRYGA: Right. And as we've just been reporting, new data shows that nearly 75,000 people detained this year had no criminal record. Less than
10 percent of them had serious convictions, despite the administration justifying these sweeps as crime emergency.
As an attorney, do these numbers justify that -- that justification, I guess, and that -- and that logic from the administration that this is an
emergency act?
REYES: In my view, no. Because, you know, the government operates all departments of the government and every agency, they operate with finite
resources to be spending so much money, manpower and resources in going after grandmothers, college students, pregnant women, people who are just
going about their day living ordinary lives to -- to be diverting so much manpower to those type of efforts, diverts resources and manpower away from
going after the actual serious criminals, like traffickers and drug smugglers.
And we have seen that in reporting from "New York Times" and "ProPublica," other outlets that says that because the administration has focused so much
on detention and deportation efforts are writ large, they are actually pulling officers away from sex crimes, units, drug -- specifically targeted
drug offenses.
And that doesn't make -- it doesn't make anyone safer. What it does is it instills great fear and anxiety in the immigrant community across the
country, as well as in -- without many relatives, loved ones of people who may know someone who's undocumented.
So, it's very hard from a legal standpoint and just as layperson to see how these ends possibly justify the means.
ASHER: And we see that communities are adapting in real time. In Minneapolis, for example, there have been reports of those in the community
using whistles to alert neighbors of these raids. And there's a know-your- rights campaign ongoing in New Orleans.
And I guess most notably, over the weekend, the mayor-elect here in New York City's, Zohran Mamdani, released a know-your-rights video.
Where do you define legally crossing the line, the legal line, because the administration, as you know, will say that this is interfering with an
ongoing operation, as opposed to the argument that these are community members and even elected officials who are reminding their community of
their legal rights?
REYES: Exactly. I have watched the entire Mamdani video. And for me, it just illuminates on both sides ways to ensure public trust and safety.
In -- in his video, the mayor-elect specifically says that people, bystanders, bystanders should not interfere with -- with ICE operations
that they can film them, but they have no right to interfere or get in the way of any type of arrest.
But he also makes the important point. For example, he distinguishes between the correct documents that ICE agents are required to have. He
reminds people that they do not have to open their doors.
And this is simply providing awareness to concerned citizens and non- citizens about their legal rights. There is nothing in his video or as many of the other know-your-rights campaigns that have -- have just sort of
sprang up organically around the country in reaction to these ICE raids. There's nothing that contravenes the law.
In fact, in New York, where we have, I -- I believe, three million immigrants and one in nine of those -- one in nine New Yorkers know
someone, have someone in the households who's undocumented.
This educates them. This informs them about what they can do and what they cannot do. And it also shows that the mayor-elect is making good on his
promise to take care of all New Yorkers, those with legal status, those who have -- have not been able to achieve legal status, but to -- to preserve
public safety.
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So for me, the more -- the greater awareness that the public has about their rights, the rights of the undocumented and the rights of Homeland
Security and ICE agents, the better we all are off -- better we are collectively.
GOLODRYGA: All right. Paul Reyes, thank you so much for your time. We appreciate it.
REYES: Thank you.
You're looking at celebrations underway across Syria today, as the country marks the first anniversary of the fall of the Assad regime. Rebels
commanded by Syria's new president, Ahmed al-Sharaa seized Damascus last December as Assad fled for Russia.
Millions of Syrians left during the 13-year civil war that ultimately led to the collapse of the Bashar al-Assad's brutal rule.
The U.N. Refugee Agency reports that over the past year, more than a million Syrian refugees and nearly two million internally displaced people
have returned home.
But even as the Syrians celebrate the fall of Assad, ongoing tensions with neighboring Israel are shadowing this next chapter of the country's
political future.
Syria's president says Israel is fighting ghosts with persistent raids and strikes being conducted by the Israel Defense Forces. The IDF crossed into
southern Syria a year ago as the Assad regime fell. And Israeli officials say those forces will be staying indefinitely in the places that they've
occupied.
Syrian President Ahmed al-Sharaa spoke with CNN's Christiane Amanpour at the Doha Forum in Qatar on Saturday.
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AHMED AL-SHARAA, SYRIAN PRESIDENT (through translator): I believe that since we arrived in Damascus, we sent positive messages regarding regional
peace and stability. And we've said very frankly that Syria will be a country of stability. And we are not concerned in being a country that
exports conflict, including to Israel.
However, in return, Israel has met us with extreme violence, and Syria has suffered massive violations of our airspace. And we've been victim of over
1,000 airstrikes and over 400 incursions.
You can see Christiane's full interview with the Syrian president the next hour on "Amanpour." And we'll be right back with more.
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GOLODRYGA: All right. Let's check on how U.S. stocks are doing right now. I've got red arrows across the board. Not down much though. The Dow down
nearly half the percentage points and 200 points. The S&P 500, down the same about half a percentage point. The NASDAQ down three tenths of a
percent. This is your "Business Breakout."
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Well, despite a plunge in shipments to the U.S., China's trade surplus has now hit $1 trillion in just 11 months. Newly released data shows overall
exports from China were almost six percent higher than last November. Shipments have surged to Southeast Asia, Africa, Latin America and the E.U.
Warren Buffett has announced changes at some of the company's Berkshire Hathaway owns. At GEICO, the CEO and chief financial officer are both
leaving.
And the CEO of NetJets, we'll take on a new role at Berkshire's Consumer Products Group, which includes Dairy Queen and Duracell. The 95-year-old
Buffett is retiring at the end of the month after running Berkshire Hathaway for six decades.
In India, civil aviation minister says the government will take strict action against Indigo Airlines over multiple flight cancellations. The
airline admits it failed to plan for new rules on pilot rest and night flying. That took effect November 1st. The misstep triggered staffing
issues in at least 2,000 flight cancellations.
Well, check out this video out of China. That is a CEO demonstrating the hard way that a humanoid robot was the real deal and not a CGI creation
that some had claimed.
The company Engine A.I. released the video on its Instagram site showing the boss getting kicked to the mat in a simulated fight. No word yet on
whether the robot still has a job or if human resources got involved. OK. He seems to be doing OK, laughing it off.
All right. Still to come for us, the Golden Globe nominations are out. We'll take a look at the top contenders, the snubs, and the surprises when
we come back.
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GOLODRYGA: The world's most visited museum has had some big problems recently. Of course, if you've been living under a rock, you know exactly
what we've been talking about, unless you've been living under a rock, of course, and that is the Louvre.
First, it was a jewel heist in broad daylight, then the uncovering of faulty security failures. And now a water leak has damaged hundreds of
books. Our Melissa Bell has more from Paris.
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MELISSA BELL, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: More difficult headlines for the Louvre Museum here in Paris as the world's most visited
museum, it seems had some sort of water leak back in November that caused damage to some three to 400 books in its Egyptian antiquities department.
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We understand from museum directors that none of these were particularly precious first editions, simply 19th or 20th century books that were
consulted by Egyptologists. And there is some hope that many of them can be restored.
Still, another difficult headline just weeks after that spectacular October heist that so captured the world's attention. Even now, the jewels have not
been recovered. There have been a number of arrests, however, four of the suspected burglars and several of those believed to have been their
accomplices have been arrested. The search continues, though, for the jewels themselves.
There was also, we understand, in the autumn, one of the galleries that houses Egyptian vases and certain offices that had to be closed because of
structural concerns.
And what we saw just a few weeks ago was the publication here in France from France's public audit body, the Cour des Comptes, accusing the museum
of having overspent on acquiring art at the expense of refurbishing its ancient infrastructure.
That report, of course, coming after the heist and really pointing to a lack of deficiencies in the updating of the museum's infrastructure and
security. And if all that were not enough, there will also now be a strike by some of the museum staff on 15th December.
They are complaining about working conditions and the difficulty that comes from that poor infrastructure that I mentioned. So a difficult few months
here for the Louvre Museum in Paris.
Melissa Bell, CNN, Paris.
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GOLODRYGA: Well, the Golden Globe nominations are out and Paul Thomas Anderson's "One Battle After Another" is leading the film categories with
nine nominations including for Best Director and Best Screenplay.
Horror film "Sinners" and the comedy drama "Sentimental Value" were just behind.
For T.V. shows, HBO's "The White Lotus" made the biggest splash. There are 28 categories in total including a new one for the Best Podcast.
CNN entertainment correspondent Elizabeth Wagmeister is live in Los Angeles. And, Elizabeth, just to confirm how much of a cultural void I
clearly have become, I've not even heard of any of those three movies that -- that I just pointed out at the top there. Clearly, many of our viewers
have, but I have a lot of catching up to do.
ELIZABETH WAGMEISTER, CNN ENTERTAINMENT CORRESPONDENT: Can I tell you something though? I hear this more often than you'd think, because it's not
really award season yet, unless you're working in entertainment.
So you have the holidays to do some catching up, Bianna, and I will text you my favorite movies and everything that you need to watch. So no
worries.
GOLODRYGA: Please simplify it for me. Obviously, this is what you do every single day and then some, Elizabeth, so you're a lifesaver for us on this
front.
Just tell us more about who the big winners just in terms of the nominations are and who was left out.
WAGMEISTER: Yes. So to give some context, the Golden Globes it's often referred to as the party of award season. The voters historically have
really honored the big celebrities and sometimes they have received a lot of criticism for just honoring celebrities and not honoring the best art
that's out here.
And I have to tell you, what we're seeing this morning is a lot of art house movies, a lot of international movies being honored. So that's
perhaps why many people have not heard of some of these movies because it's not the big splashy mainstream movies.
But the top contender in the film category is a big box office hit. That's "One Battle After Another" which stars Leonardo DiCaprio. He also getting a
nomination. And the acting categories for that film really all getting acting nominations.
Now, "Sinners," which is from Ryan Coogler and Michael B. Jordan, that was one of the biggest box office hits and really the only original film this
year that was a huge box office hit in 2025. "Sinners" also doing very well this morning.
But again, the biggest surprise is actually that some of these smaller movies were actually honored, which is going over very well in the
industry.
Now, the biggest snub, make no mistake, is that "Wicked," of course, a huge box office hit for the sequel, was not honored in the Best Picture
category. Ariana Grande and Cynthia Erivo getting their acting nominations and the film overall getting five.
But that leads to some questions of what does this mean for "Wicked" as award season goes on? Is it going to farewell at the Oscars or not?
Certainly not the morning that they were hoping for, even with five nominations today.
GOLODRYGA: OK. Well, I can say that I do know who Leonardo DiCaprio is, so that is a check. I -- I also know that for so many parents of younger
children, I was surprised that "KPop Demon Hunters" was not on there, because that's another film that I've come to know quite well. And then, of
course, "Wicked."
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Elizabeth, I mentioned HBO and the hit there. Talk about the -- the big win once again, just in terms of recognition and nomination for "White Lotus."
WAGMEISTER: Yes. So, the Golden Globes honors both film and television. So unlike the Oscars, which just honors film, that's why you have so many
categories at the Golden Globes.
So the "White Lotus," getting the most nominations on the film side, it's always an awards darling.
And behind "White Lotus," the most nominated television shows are "Severance" from Apple and "Only Murders in the Building" from Hulu.
Now, I do want to touch on "KPop Demon Hunters" because here's what's interesting. There is a new category called Cinematic in Box Office
Achievement. And I have to be honest, this category gets some flack in the industry because people say, are you essentially awarding a movie for
making money?
And look, that is what it is. But this is an effort to get more viewers to watch the show. "KPop Demon Hunters" is in that category, along with some
other films that you and many of your viewers have probably seen. So there are some things in there for you, Bianna. Don't worry.
GOLODRYGA: OK. Well, maybe for my kids. Maybe that's why I see it.
WAGMEISTER: For your kids. Exactly.
GOLODRYGA: That's why I see them. All for the kids.
Elizabeth Wagmeister, thank you so much for bringing me up to speed. I am a little less of a culture avoid now because of you.
All right. That does it for "One World." I'm Bianna Golodryga. Thanks for watching. I'll be right back with "Amanpour" after the break.
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