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Nobel Peace Prize Winner May Arrive In Oslo Soon; Trump Administration's New plan Would Intensify Traveler Vetting; Trump Touts U.S. Economy, Calls Affordability A "Hoax"; French Probe: Thieves Escaped With 30 Seconds To Spare; Study: Nearly One-Third Of American Teens Use A.I. Chatbots Daily; Italian Cuisine Earns World's First UNESCO Status; Aired 12-1p ET
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ZAIN ASHER, CNN ANCHOR: All right. Oslo is ready to welcome the winner of the Nobel Peace Prize, but there is a little bit of a problem here. Where
exactly is the guest of honor?
BIANNA GOLODRYGA, CNN ANCHOR: The second hour of "One World" starts right now.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I don't know how she is traveling. I don't know when she's arriving. But I'm still banking on the fact that she will be here in
time for the celebrations.
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GOLODRYGA: From living in hiding, to stepping into the spotlight, Maria Carina Machado is on her way to Oslo and could be moments from reuniting
with her family.
ASHER: Also ahead, pasta and pizza and prosciutto. Oh, my. Italian food gets recognized as an intangible cultural heritage. We'll speak to Italian-
American chef, Lidia Bastianich, about this gastronomic coup.
And later.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The big question. Can it do fitted sheets?
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GOLODRYGA: And he doesn't complain. He's always on time and he works for free. Too good to be true. Meet Isaac, the laundry folding robot that's
making dreams come true.
ASHER: All right. Coming to you live from New York, I'm Zain Asher.
GOLODRYGA: And I'm Bianna Golodryga. You're watching the second hour of "One World."
ASHER: Today's Nobel Peace Prize ceremony has been surrounded by unusual intrigue. All because the recipient was actually not there to accept the
award.
Maria Carina Machado was unable to attend the event in person, but is insisting that she's currently on her way to Oslo, aided by a team of
helpers risking their lives to ensure her safe arrival.
GOLODRYGA: Yes. This will be the first time the Venezuelan opposition leader has been seen in public since January. She's been keeping in touch
with the Nobel team along the way. Take a listen.
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MARIA CORINA MACHADO, VENEZUELAN OPPOSITION LEADER: I will be in Oslo and on my way to Oslo right now. I know that there are hundreds of Venezuelans
from different parts of the world that we're able to reach your city that are right now in Oslo, as well as my family, my teams.
As soon as I arrive, I -- I will be able to embrace all my family and my children that have not seen for two years and so many Venezuelans,
Norwegians that I know that share our struggle and our fight. So thank you very much and I'll see you very soon.
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GOLODRYGA: Machado's daughter accepted the award earlier today on her behalf, saying that her mother was there in spirit.
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ANA CORINA SOSA, DAUGHTER OF MARIA CORINA MACHADO: And as I await that moment to hug her, to kiss her, to embrace her after two years, I think of
the other daughters and sons who do not get to see their mothers today.
This is what drives her. What drives all of us. She wants to live in a free Venezuela and she will never give up on that purpose.
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GOLODRYGA: All right. Let's bring in our reporters who are across the story. We're joined by CNN's Pau Mosquera who is in Oslo. And CNN's Stefano
Pozzebon button, who is in Caracas.
Pau, let's start with you. Any update since we last spoke in the last hour about Machado's whereabouts and how soon she can be expected there in Oslo?
PAU MOSQUERA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Zain, Bianna, this is the main question that all the people around the Grand Hotel are asking theirselves,
is she already here? It seems so far she hasn't make it to Oslo, but we are waiting for something that could happen over the next hours.
The truth is that every time that we have contacted the Nobel Institute, they always assured and informed us that they didn't know how or when she
made it to Oslo.
But earlier this morning, as we just heard, the Nobel Institute shared an audio, a phone call between the president of the Norwegian Committee for
the Nobel and her where she said she was boarding a plane and about to get to Oslo. But we didn't know where did she take that plane. So I wouldn't
know how many hours may take to get here.
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But the point is that many people are already awaiting her arrival. Let me show you what is happening around. Here you can see behind me this the
Grand Hotel. This is the building that where normally stays in the winner of the Nobel Peace Prize.
But over the last 84 hours, the Nobel Suite the one that she should be staying in has been empty and that's why many are waiting for any news on
whether she may get here today or maybe tomorrow.
And right now, I can tell you, Zain and Bianna, that there's another event related to the ceremony of the Nobel Peace Prize. There's 400 meters away
from where we are near the city hall. Dozens of people are with torches participating in the torch parade.
This is something a tradition that has been happening for decades and it happens to commemorate the awarding of this prize. And they're expected to
get here until this old hotel.
And normally if the winner was staying in her room, then we would see her like getting out, waving to all the people around, but it doesn't seem like
this time is it going to happen.
Nevertheless, people are going to stay here to see with their own eyes if Maria Corina Machado makes it to Oslo. Zain, Bianna.
ASHER: All right. Pau, standby. Stefano Pozzebon, let -- let me bring you in because you are, I believe in -- yes, you are certainly in Caracas.
So we know how dangerous it was for Machado to leave the country. I mean she's talked about it. It is -- I mean, it's parallel stuff to get her out,
to get her to Oslo. There would have been a lot of people helping her who would have had to put their lives in danger as well.
It does beg the question, how on earth she gets back to Venezuela once the ceremony is over? You know, that -- that is a big question because it would
be just as dangerous to get back in as it would be to leave, maybe even more so actually.
STEFANO POZZEBON, CNN CONTRIBUTOR: Yes. Certainly, Zain. Definitely more dangerous, especially because here you do have a government that is all to
intend in making sure that nobody celebrates this Nobel victory.
We're coming to you live from a government march that the government of Nicolas Maduro, of course, has called today. And I think that today is a
Wednesday. It's a normal working day. And here, we're not seeing the majority of the Venezuelan people. We're seeing small minority who still
support the Venezuelan government as of today.
However, it shows the level of effort that the government of Nicolas Maduro is putting in place to silence this victory.
For example, I found it very interesting earlier today, Zain, Bianna, that most of Venezuelan linear T.V. channels did not make a reference to the
Nobel Peace Prize victory. They did not carry the speech out of Oslo, for example, nor radio station.
This is a country that still lives under an iron-fisted censorship. And this is why here, we are witnessing people who do not -- or may not even
know that she has won. And which is remarkable when you can see the Venezuela which is a country that, in history, only had one previous Nobel
winner in the 1960s, a physician for the Nobel Prize in -- in -- in medicine.
Maria Corina Machado is the first Venezuelan to win the Nobel Peace Prize, of course. It's an achievement for the entire country, and yet, however,
the government, which, of course, she can paint against, is all contended making sure that nobody here in Caracas is out celebrating.
And this is why even on a weekday, we're seeing a political rally and we expect, perhaps, Nicolas Maduro to take the stage and pivot directly away
the focus of the nation from these remarkable achievements. Zain, Bianna. Bianna, Zain.
GOLODRYGA: All right. Stefano Pozzebon. Our thanks to Pau Mosquera as well. We will be following any developments and if Machado does arrive in the
next hour. Of course, we will bring that to you live.
ASHER: All right. The U.S President Trump continues to push forward with his immigration crackdown.
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Federal agents used pepper spray on a crowd that was trying to block their vehicles in Minneapolis, Tuesday. The agents were checking identifications
in a heavily Somali neighborhood.
It comes after Donald Trump renewed his attacks on Somalis last night during a speech in Pennsylvania, once again, using really inflammatory
language.
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DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Hey, why is it we only take people from (BLEEP) hole countries, right? Why can't we have some people
from Norway, Sweden? Just a few. Let's have a few. From -- from Denmark, do you mind sending us of your peep? Send us some nice people. Do you mind?
But we always take people from Somalia, places that are a disaster, right? Filthy, dirty, disgusting, ridden with crime. The only thing they're good
at is going after ships.
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GOLODRYGA: Meantime in Chicago, Governor J.B. Pritzker has signed a new law in response to the administration's crackdown.
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The law blocks federal officials from taking enforcement action against immigrants near courthouses and hospitals on college campuses or in daycare
facilities.
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GOV. J.B. PRITZKER (D-IL): Over the past few months, the Chicago region has been subjected to a relentless campaign of cruelty and intimidation and
abuse at the hands of ICE and Border Patrol agents under the command of President Trump and condoned by the Republican Congress.
With my signature today, we are trying to protect people in institutions that belong here in Illinois. Dropping your kid off at daycare, going to
the doctor or attending classes should not be a life-altering risk.
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GOLODRYGA: This all comes as the Trump administration has proposed a new twist in immigration policy, a plan that would require some visitors to
provide social media information from the last five years. It would affect travelers who are part of a visa waiver program for citizens from 42
countries.
ASHER: Yes. CNN's Priscilla Alvarez has more on the proposed changes.
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PRISCILLA ALVAREZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: The Trump administration announced a new proposal that would mark an escalation in traveler vetting, this time
expanding the type of information they're looking for, for people visiting the United States.
Now, those affected by this are those that are enrolled in the electronic system for travel authorization, which is part of a visa waiver program for
citizens from 42 countries. That includes, for example, the United Kingdom, New Zealand, Australia, Japan, as well as other European countries.
Now, this is for people that are traveling to the U.S. for under 90 days without a visa. And to apply, they would typically include information
about their passport, their birth date, as well as any other criminal -- past criminal record.
Now, the social media option used to be that, just an option. But now, with this proposal, that would be mandatory, five years worth of social media
history, as well as other data, for example, with phone numbers and email addresses at the last several years, as well as information about closed
family members.
Taken together, this is yet another example of how the administration is changing or tightening the legal immigration system. This time again,
targeting those who are visiting the United States and scrutinizing their social media in ways that we've seen the administration do for those who
are applying for visas abroad, as well as for those who may already have visas here in the United States.
Now, again, this is a proposal by U.S. Customs and Border Protection, and it still has to go through a 60-day notice and request for comments, so it
will not take effect immediately. But it would be a remarkable development for people traveling from certain countries to the United States.
Priscilla Alvarez, CNN, Washington.
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GOLODRYGA: Then there's this story. A woman with family ties to White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt has been released on bond from ICE
custody.
ASHER: Bruna Ferreira, who was previously engaged to Leavitt's brother, was arrested last month near Boston. She drove to pick up their 11-year-old
son. DHS previously told CNN Ferreira was in the U.S. illegally after overstaying a tourist visa.
But her attorney says she received temporary protection from deportation for those brought to the U.S. as children, and that she's currently
undergoing a lawful immigration process for citizenship.
GOLODRYGA: Well, U.S. Vice President J.D. Vance is expected to travel to Pennsylvania next week to push the administration's message on
affordability, following a speech by President Trump that was meant to highlight his economic agenda.
ASHER: For more than 90 minutes in Pennsylvania on Tuesday, the president continually veered off topic discussing windmills, attacking transgender
Americans and Somali immigrants. And at one point, parodied a Scottish accent.
Trump tried to assure his supporters that despite the numbers that prove otherwise, inflation is no longer an issue and prices are dropping. He also
suggested Americans are spending too much.
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TRUMP: You know, you can give up certain products. You can give up pencils. That's under the China policy. You know, every child can get 37 pencils.
They only need one or two, you know. They don't need that many.
But you always need -- you always need steel. You don't need 37 dolls for your daughter. Two or three is nice, but you don't need 37 dolls.
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GOLODRYGA: And while the president gives himself above a perfect score on his handling of the economy, many voters don't agree.
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DASHA BURNS, WHITE HOUSE BUREAU CHIEF, POLITICO: I wonder what grade you would give for the economy.
TRUMP: A plus.
BURNS: A plus.
TRUMP: Yes. A plus, plus, plus, plus.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: So, what do you make of that? Do you agree with that?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Totally disagree.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No, no, no, no. It's not A plus, plus.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, the prices are a little higher than normal, you know, but that's to be expected coming off of a Democratic, you know,
regime. Now that Trump is back in office, I think he's going to try to get things back under control.
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GOLODRYGA: Stephen Moore is Trump's former economic advisor. He joins us now live from Palm Beach, Florida. Stephen, good to see you.
I believe you still advise the president or at least speak with him informally. And so you're the perfect person to talk to about this.
The president, as we noted, gave himself an A plus, plus, plus, plus, plus. I'm counting five pluses there on my hand.
But according to what you even said to "The Wall Street Journal" recently, you said that affordability is a huge issue for the White House and
acknowledged that the president has a messaging problem.
Last night, he doubled down on continuing to mock the term affordability. If your advice is that affordability is a serious one, why is the president
mocking it when he's making his first speech on the issue to the American public in a very long time?
Is that the way to win voters over as you see their approval rating of his handling of the economy continuing to slip?
STEPHEN MOORE, FORMER TRUMP ECONOMIC ADVISER: Well, first of all, with respect to what the president said yesterday, as -- as you noted, it went
on for what, an hour and 20 minutes. So he said a lot last night.
And a lot of it really was oriented towards trying to convince the American public that the economy is doing well. And in fact, in my opinion, as an
economist, just looking at the overall statistics, the economy is doing very well.
In fact, much better than it was doing, you know, two or three years ago, we have just to, you know, knock off some of these statistics. We have, you
know, the lowest gas prices we've had in five years. And that's a big consumer item. That's the way we used to measure inflation. Those have come
down a lot.
We have seven million opening --open jobs in the United States. We've been growing at about three and half to four percent for the last nine months,
which is much higher than almost any other industrialized country. We have seen a lot of investment capital coming in.
And -- and in terms of the affordability issue, it is simply a factual truth that the average family, after inflation, has about $1,200 more than
they did at the start of the year.
So part of this is, in my opinion, a perception problem, but perception is reality in politics. Republicans have lost several elections over the last
couple of months that they might normally have won.
So it is true that -- that a lot of Americans are angry about the price of healthcare, the price of beef. And so the president is trying to address
that by saying, look, things may -- you know, may be expensive, but a lot of that was due to what happened when Joe Biden was president.
ASHER: Yes. I mean, and -- and a lot of analysts say that blaming Joe Biden one year in just doesn't cut it. And also, I mean, you've touched on this,
I guess, a bit in your answer, this idea that what the headline numbers show is very different from what Americans are feeling when they actually
go out to buy groceries.
I do want to pivot slightly though, because we've got the Fed rate decision in less than two hours from now. It's widely expected the Fed is going to
cut interest rates again. It would be the third time this year.
But in terms of what Donald Trump himself has said about Jerome Powell, he has called him a numskull, too late, a total stiff saying, I would love to
fire his dot, dot, a word that I can't use on T.V.
When you talk to the president, I mean, I know that Donald Trump is apparently behind the scenes. They're talking about potential candidates to
take over from Powell when his term ends next year. And they're actually looking at people who are going to be much more aggressive when it comes to
interest rate cuts.
When you speak to the president, what do you say to him, you know, as his sort of outside advisor about Fed independence and the importance of not
going out publicly, even not behind the scenes, I guess, talking about, you know, putting pressure on Jerome Powell to cut interest rates at a -- at a
-- at a much more aggressive rate?
I mean, obviously, there is so much importance in this country for having an independent central bank. What do you say to the president when it comes
up?
MOORE: Well, I tell them a couple things. One is that I always remind him that the most important thing for the Fed is to keep the dollar strong and
stable. And I don't think, by the way, that Jerome Powell has done a very good job of that.
You know, we've seen a herky-jerky Fed policy where just four years ago, we had a nine percent unemployment rate, the highest -- I mean, the inflation
rate, the highest inflation rate we've had since the 1970s.
So, you know, I think Jerome Powell has been a failure at the Fed, and Trump is angry about that.
But you need to -- he wants big rate reductions because he thinks that will help stimulate the economy. I'm -- I'm somewhat skeptical of that view. I
mean, what we really want is just to make sure that we don't have prices go out of control. We want to make sure that the Fed is protecting and
defending the dollar.
And the two people that he's looking at that are probably, one of the two is probably going to be the next Fed chairman are Kevin Warsh and Kevin
Hassett, where both really excellent economists. I think would be fantastic Fed chiefs. But it's time for Jerome Powell to go.
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And I -- I don't like when the Trump -- Trump is always jaw-boning the Fed. I think that it is important to have an independent Fed, but it's most
important that we have a competent Fed. And for the last couple of years, we haven't had that.
GOLODRYGA: Can I ask you a question about policy as it relates to tariffs and China, specifically? Last night, President Trump claimed that since he
took office, quote, 100 percent of all net job creation has gone to American citizens. And he promised a manufacturing revival, which he has
done repeatedly now.
However, we look at data showing that China is experiencing a manufacturing boom while the U.S. output continues to struggle. This coupled with news
that the president has reversed course and allowed NVIDIA now to sell some of its advanced chips to China.
That -- that's led many to think that the president is not thinking longer term, and instead, you know, if the U.S. is getting some cut from this
NVIDIA deal, maybe that benefits him or the U.S. for the short period of time now, but the long game seems to be the United States policy actually
helping China.
How does that benefit Americans?
MOORE: Well, first of all, when it comes to trade policy, and -- and I'm a -- I'm a free trade guy, and the president knows that. And -- and I'm not
always a fan of his tariffs, but I'd like some of the trade deals he has been able to consummate with a lot of these countries, which have been very
much in America's interest.
But there's this -- there is a special problem with China. And I think almost all Americans agree that -- with that, that China is the new evil
empire in the planet. And we have to make sure that we outgrow them. And we have to be very careful that we're not giving them the technology that they
-- that they want and need to be able to overtake us. I don't think that's going to happen. They'd like to knock us off our purchase, the world
economic superpower.
But if you look at what's happened with the American economy in the last 10 months, I mean, it's really important to make the point that we're growing
at a very brisk pace. It is a very healthy economy right now in the U.S.
And in 2026, you know, which starts in about two or three weeks, I think we're going to see even faster growth in the economy. So in terms of being
able to out-compete China, which is a top priority for the United States, both in terms of our national security and our economic welfare, I think
Trump is pushing almost all the right buttons and -- and we will see. But - - but I feel pretty confident about the U.S. economy.
Look at our stock market. We've got the Dow Jones. We've got the standard of S&P 500 and that -- and NASDAQ at all-time highs at the same time.
That's suggesting there's a lot of international confidence in where the U.S. economy is headed.
GOLODRYGA: Where would the stock market be if we eliminated A.I. investment? Where would the economy be right now?
MOORE: Oh, God. I mean, it's so huge. It's such a huge (INAUDIBLE).
GOLODRYGA: I mean, I just --no. That's it. It was -- it was more of a button to -- to the point about the overall health of the U.S. economy.
It's -- it's not diversified. I mean, we can -- we can agree to that.
MOORE: Yes.
GOLODRYGA: But that's leading to a lot of concern about whether there is an A.I. bubble or not.
Stephen, we'll -- we'll have to put a pause button there.
MOORE: There maybe. But -- but let me make -- make this point. Yes, that look --
GOLODRYGA: Yes.
MOORE: -- that the future is technology. No question about it. And what's really super cool about the U.S. economy, and just as the United States
dominated the Internet age with companies like Google, Apple, Amazon --
GOLODRYGA: Yes.
MOORE: -- Meta, all these companies that completely dominated. Our -- Trump is completely committed to making sure that we rule the A.I. future and
also robotics, which are the next big thing in technology.
GOLODRYGA: Which is why some people are scratching their head at this NVIDIA reversal, but we can discuss that later.
Stephen Moore, thank you so much. Good to see you.
MOORE: OK.
ASHER: Thank -- thank you, Stephen.
MOORE: Thank you.
ASHER: Thank you. Appreciate it, Stephen.
All right. Still to come.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Oh. Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness.
A plane just crashed onto a car --
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Onto the highway.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: -- on a highway. Right.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Were' going to pull off.
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ASHER: A dramatic plane landing in Florida and to the plane literally crashing on top of a car.
GOLODRYGA: Unbelievable.
ASHER: Oh, my gosh.
GOLODRYGA: Plus, more details on the --
ASHER: Oh, my God.
GOLODRYGA: -- Louvre story that just won't go away. A new report says the thieves escaped with just 30 seconds to spare. That's up next.
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ASHER: You're looking at a terrifying moment. I really can't even watch this. My gosh. Terrifying moment when a small plane made an emergency
landing literally on top of a car. This is the driver's dash cam video that captured the incident. This is actually out of Florida highway.
GOLODRYGA: Thank goodness there wasn't that much traffic there on the road. As you can see, the small twin engine plane comes swooping down before
crashing on to a moving vehicle.
Authorities say the driver only had minor injuries. If you can believe that, thankfully, was taken to a nearby hospital. And incredibly, the
plane's pilot and passenger were not injured either.
ASHER: Now to Paris where CNN is learning new details about that $102 million jewelry heist in October at the Louvre.
GOLODRYGA: Yes. The thieves escaped with barely 30 seconds to spare. But as I reminded Zain, they were really going at a snail's pace when they were
escaping there.
This according to details newly released in a French Senate inquiry. The probe also found that only one of two cameras covering the break-in point
was functioning, giving the thieves just enough time to slip away.
The Louvre's director will be questioned by lawmakers next week about the missing crown jewels.
ASHER: CNN's Melissa Bell is following the story for us from Paris.
I mean, this is so embarrassing, right? Because not only did it take place in broad daylight and as we -- we -- we were like creaky up at the video
where they sort of go down that little sort of escalator thing at a very slow pace.
But on top of that, only one of two security cameras working the police would sent to the wrong place initially and they had about 30 seconds to
spare.
Melissa, walk us through what's in this report.
MELISSA BELL, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: And perhaps even more damning than that, Zain, the fact that there have been five audits of the
infrastructure security arrangements of the Louvre Museum over the course of the last 10 years. This was highlighted also in that report published
today.
And if the findings of those audits had been taken seriously, if changes had been made, then that crucial 30 seconds could have been made up and the
thieves could have been caught.
What they explained, and this was published today and explained in front of French senators, is that there was indeed a camera pointing towards that
facade. And what they saw on the camera were the robbers pull up in that truck, lift their ladder up to the window, make their way to the window.
The problem was that that was not live footage that security agents could access and watch directly. So by the time they saw it, it was too late.
Thirty seconds would have made the difference and those jewels might have been retrieved in the burglar's court on the spot.
That's what senators have been hearing today. So it's a very damning report for the directors of the Louvre Museum.
Even now, those more than $100 million worth of jewels still at large. They haven't been recovered. None of them.
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What French authorities have managed to do subsequently, of course, is get their hands on what they believe are the four suspected robbers, plus a
bunch of suspected accomplices.
But, of course, that is -- the point is that they could have kept the jewels themselves. And, of course, the longer this goes on, the greater the
fears that they'll never be recovered at all, and certainly not in their original state.
So another big blow for the museum. Even as it's had another few setbacks, these last few weeks, things like one gallery having to close because of
infrastructure issues, another gallery seeing a water leak.
So again, issues of infrastructure that have been highlighted in another report that we've had these last few weeks sort of pointed out that the
Louvre Museum had preferred to buy art, then update this important infrastructure.
And, of course, that latest report, those 30 seconds, of course, crucially, very damning indeed for the directors of the Louvre Museum.
By the way, there have been no resignations for the time being, but we'll be looking to see what the directors of the museum have to say for
themselves next week. Zain and Bianna.
ASHER: There are no words. They -- they -- when they were escaping, it just -- it looked like they had all the time in the world to get away.
GOLODRYGA: It actually looked like it was part of their plan to not look suspicious, to go as slow as possible. So quite stunning, though. I can't
get enough of this video.
ASHER: Amazing.
GOLODRYGA: And quite stunning and brazen on their part, I have to say.
Melissa Bell, thank you.
ASHER: Thank you, Melissa.
GOLODRYGA: All right. Time to uncork the Prosecco. The U.N.'s cultural body is honoring Italian cuisine. Well deserved. Details ahead on what it means
for Italy's traditions.
Plus.
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SHERYL SANDBERG, FORMER FACEBOOK EXECUTIVE: We are in a particularly troubling moment in terms of the rhetoric on women. You see it everywhere
in all the sectors.
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ASHER: Former Facebook executive, Sheryl Sandberg, is sounding the alarm on what is happening to women in the workplace and how it could shape economic
competition for the U.S.
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GOLODRYGA: All right. Welcome back to "One World." I'm Bianna Golodryga.
ASHER: And I'm Zain Asher.
GOLODRYGA: As Australia starts enforcing its ban on social media use for those aged under 16, skepticism is growing over how effectively the measure
can be implemented or how its impact will even be tracked.
ASHER: Yes. There's fears that some users might still be able to log on using virtual private networks or could migrate to smaller alternatives not
included in the new laws.
Australia's E-Safety Commissioner warns it won't be perfect, but that key metrics will yield some clarity over the impact it's having on young
people's mental health.
Meanwhile, Australian teenagers are unimpressed and are reacting to the policy with disdain.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I kind of see where they're coming from, but also I think if you can get a job at 14, if you can take care of someone's kid,
like do babysitting and stuff, I think you should be able to like have -- you would have social media and have the government like trust you on it.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's just kind of like pointless. Like that -- it's just like we're just going to create like new ways to get on these
platforms. So like, what's the point, you know?
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ASHER: Attention is also turning into the impact A.I. chatbots are also having on young people's mental health too. As a recent study revealed that
nearly a third of American teens are interacting with the likes of ChatGPT and Google's Gemini on a daily basis.
GOLODRYGA: Yes. The findings by Pew Research Center come after two major A.I. firms have faced lawsuits from families who alleged that their
chatbots played a role in their teen suicides.
CNN's Clare Duffy has more on this story.
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CLARE DUFFY, CNN TECH REPORTER: Yes. This is important research because it sheds light on teen use of a technology that has raised really serious
mental health concerns.
This is the first time that Pew Research has surveyed teens on their general A.I. chatbot use. They talked to about 1,500 teens from 13 to 17
from across the country.
And what they found is that more than half, 64 percent have used an A.I. chatbot at least once. Around a third of U.S. teens, 28 percent, are using
them daily. And 16 percent say they use them several times a day to almost constantly.
The most popular chatbots probably also won't surprise you. ChatGPT is at the top of the list followed by Google's Gemini, Meta A.I., Copilot from
Microsoft and Character.AI., which of course, we've talked about this year because the company has been sued by a number of families who claim that it
contributed to their child's self-harm or suicide. Character.AI has made a number of major changes to its platform since then.
But I think this is an important reminder to parents to pay attention to what your kids are doing with these chatbots. Many of these chatbots are
pitched as tools to help kids with school and homework, which they certainly can do.
But what we're seeing is that kids often form a habit and build deeper relationships with these tools. And that's where things can go to a
potentially harmful place.
So important research here in terms of helping us understand the prevalence of these A.I. chatbots among teenagers. Back to you.
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ASHER: All right. Long live Italian cuisine. Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni has a tasty reason to celebrate this week. The world-famous cuisine,
Italian food, has actually become the first gastronomic style to be recognized by the U.N.'s cultural body UNESCO.
This status aimed at protecting it essentially from imitators.
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GIORGIA MELONI, ITALIAN PRIME MINISTER: Today, we celebrate an achievement that belongs to Italy, but that enriches humanity as a whole. Thank you
all. Long live Italian cuisine.
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GOLODRYGA: Long live Italian cuisine. It says Italian cuisine aficionados around the world. Now this recognition is the culmination of a three-year
campaign by Italy's agricultural ministry. They want to shine a light on Italy's traditional way of preparing and harvesting food.
And it comes as many work to fight against what they consider fake Italian food, such as the production of fake olive oil and the use of Italian
sounding names on products that were not made in Italy.
ASHER: Time now for "The Exchange." Joining us live now is Italian-American celebrity chef and restaurateur Lidia Bastianich. She's on the phone.
I guess congratulations are in order for you as an Italian-American chef. I mean, this is a huge cultural achievement. And I think what's really
interesting about this, Lidia, is that it's not just about the actual food, which of course we all love. I mean, who doesn't love Italian food?
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It's also about the rituals, right? The shared meals, the sort of traditions, the sort of coming togetherness, that sort of surround, you
know, Italian cuisine.
Just give us your reaction to this really important honor.
LIDIA BASTIANICH, CELEBRITY CHEF (through telephone): Bianna, I can't wait to speak. I'm so excited, Bianna. It is so deserving and we are so excited.
You know, the Italian -- the Italy has given a lot to the culture of the world, music, art, and whatever. But food, it's one culture that sort of
spreads out throughout the world.
Because, you know, it's protecting, celebrating, promoting, an entire way of life. The flavors are just -- everybody just loves the flavor, it's
straightforward.
You know, and it also encourages families get together and cooking and socializing. Eating family style Italian is -- is sort of the Italian way.
And, of course, Italy is also very conscious of the fact that it's about biodiversity. So, you know, coin of -- it's a whole country.
But let me tell you, it has 20 regions, and each one has different products, and it's very respected.
The -- the -- the history and the creativity of the cuisine as well. So the Italian cuisine, for all of those reasons, really deserves this place in
humanity. And I am so excited.
GOLODRYGA: Lidia, as someone who was not born in Italy, I am equally excited. And I don't think there was anything controversial.
BASTIANICH: Oh, good for you.
GOLODRYGA: I don't think there was anything controversial --
BASTIANICH: Good for you.
GOLODRYGA: -- about this designation.
BASTIANICH: You know -- absolutely. These times that we're all at each other. You know, there's nothing better than sitting down at the table,
family style, with friends sharing food.
Sharing food is at the basis of who we are as human beings, you know. When you want to -- you want to do well with somebody, you want to nurture
somebody, you feed them.
And, you know, the Italian cuisine is exemplary. And, of course, with all of its great products, traditional products that you mentioned in the
intro, it is absolutely necessary.
Those products really signify the respect for not wasting, you know, like a Parmigiano Reggiano is made out of cow's milk. But, you know, all the cows,
there's a lot of milk, you can't drink it all, you can't use the fresh, and you sort of -- the monks way back into 700, made the Parmigiano Reggiano
and so on, Prosciutto di Parma, Montasio cheese, all of these are products that really exemplify the Italian culture at the table in flavor, but also
in cautiousness for the environment, for biodiversity of it all.
And so -- and so with those congratulations to the Italian cuisine. I am so excited. I congratulate (INAUDIBLE). I want to thank the Italia for those -
- those -- those that listen, are listening, I want to congratulate them. It's well-deserved.
ASHER: And I'm going to have gnocchi for lunch, I've decided. Because I'm - - you made me so hungry. Gnocchi's my favorite. I just -- I'm just dreaming about it right now.
GOLODRYGA: And I'm going to say, mangia, mangia, mangia.
ASHER: Mangia, mangia.
GOLODRYGA: As we say.
ASHER: Grazie mille.
BASTIANICH: And, you know -- and, you know, and, you know, as I say at my - - on my -- at the end of my show, tutti a tavola a mangiare. That's everybody to the table to me.
My grandmother used to say that all -- all the time. Dinner was ready, lunch was ready, tutti a tavola a mangiare. And we all ran to the table.
And you know what? There was always room at the table, no matter how many came.
GOLODRYGA: We -- we hope we get to come to the table with you.
ASHER: Yes.
GOLODRYGA: One day very soon.
ASHER: You should invite us, Lidia. No pressure.
BASTIANICH: Well, you know what? You know what? I have to come up there and cook with you some Italian cuisine, really exemplify.
ASHER: We would love that.
BASTIANICH: So we'll set that up.
GOLODRYGA: We're going to hold you to it.
BASTIANICH: As you can see, I'm (INAUDIBLE).
ASHER: Yes.
GOLODRYGA: We're going to hold you to it. OK catch your flight. Thank you. Thank you for calling.
BASTIANICH: Love you all.
GOLODRYGA: OK.
BASTIANICH: Augure. Love you.
ASHER: We love you too.
BASTIANICH: Bye- bye.
ASHER: We love you too.
GOLODRYGA: Lidia Bastianich. That was fun.
ASHER: That was great.
We'll be right back after the short break.
GOLODRYGA: I'm very hungry now.
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ASHER: For (INAUDIBLE) see how the U.S. markets are doing. The Dow is up a third of one percent. S&P, up as well. And NASDAQ, down ever so slightly.
I mean, look, everybody is waiting with bated breath for Jerome Powell for the Fed to actually decide on whether or not it's going to cut interest
rates. We are expecting 25 basis point interest rate cuts, so that's going to be announced. We'll see in about an hour and 15 minutes from now. This
is your "Business Breakout."
All right. Investors are gearing up for the Federal Reserve as I mentioned. Decision interest rates today. It's expected the Fed will cut rates by a
quarter point lowering borrowing costs for the third time this year to support weakening the labor market.
GOLODRYGA: And the White House says it's open to extending a key U.S. trade initiative with Sub-Saharan Africa, if Congress pushes for it. But South
Africa may be excluded. The African Growth and Opportunity Act expired in September. The Trump administration says South Africa needs to lower its
tariffs on American products if it wants the U.S. to do the same.
ASHER: Eli Lilly, the pharmaceutical company behind the weight loss injection Zepbound will soon release a GLP-1 drug in pill form. It will be
available in early 2026. The company adds, they're opening a new plant to manufacture the drugs in the U.S.
GOLODRYGA: Well, Meta's former COO, Sheryl Sandberg, explains why it's once again a troubling time for women in the workforce. She said almost half a
million women have left the workforce since January. That's based on a recent McKinsey-LeanIn study that revealed some alarming statistics in
workplace dynamics.
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SANDBERG: I'm 56, so this is my fourth decade in the workplace. And we are in a particularly troubling moment in terms of the rhetoric on women you
see it everywhere in all the sectors. But what I've seen is, you know, we make progress, we backslide. We make progress, we backslide. And I think
this is a major moment of backsliding.
At an economic level since January of this year, 455,000 women have left the workforce in the U.S. 100,000 men have entered the workforce in that
same period.
Unemployment for black women is at 7.5 percent. If you got workforce participation for women in the U.S., just up to the levels of other wealthy
countries, that would be an additional 4.2 percent GDP growth, and our economy grows less than two percent a year. So that's a lot of growth to
leave it at -- on the table.
From a company point of view, we know that when companies have 15 percent or more women in senior management, they perform better financially. And so
this is a critical issue, not of special treatment, but of making sure we get the best out of our workforce. And we are competitive economically.
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ASHER: Sandberg --
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GOLODRYGA: Sorry.
ASHER: Sandberg adds, she's concerned about that 50 percent of companies will no longer hold women's advancement as a priority that's further
amplified by the rise of A.I. and more men than women be encouraged to use it.
We'll be right back.
GOLODRYGA: I was so engrossed in what she was saying.
ASHER: You're so eager beaver, Bianna.
GOLODRYGA: Bounce over your name. Sorry about that.
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GOLODRYGA: All right. The former head of a company producing true crime T.V. shows is now a fugitive on the run herself.
The FBI has added Mary Carole McDonnell to its most wanted list after she portrayed herself as an heiress to con lenders out of millions of dollars.
ASHER: The production company ran into financial problems back in 2017, so she falsely claimed that she was related to the owners of a major aerospace
company in order to secure a loan worth nearly $15 million. The 73-year-old has been on the run since 2018. The FBI believes that she is now in Dubai.
GOLODRYGA: Well, not many of us like doing chores around the house, like laundry or vacuuming.
ASHER: You don't?
GOLODRYGA: I really don't.
ASHER: You could hire someone to help or in the near future actually get a robot to do it for you.
Itay Hod from affiliate KPIX , introduces us to Isaac.
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ITAY HOD, KPIX REPORTER (voice-over): The future is unfolding. On a typical day, Phillip Sharrette, a laundry worker, handles hundreds of pounds of
clothes, enough to make anyone's head spin.
PHILLIP SHARRETTE, LAUNDRY WORKER: The longest and most tedious part is folding the actual articles of clothing.
HOD (voice-over): But today, he can take a load off with a helping hand straight out of a sci-fi movie.
Meet Isaac, a robot equipped with cameras and sensors that can sort, fold, and stack piles of clothes with surprising precision.
SHARRETTE: It still blows my mind to think, you know, hey, every day I get up and I go to work with a robot.
HOD (voice-over): Phillip works for Tumble, a San Francisco-based laundry service that gets your clothes done in four hours. Now, with a little help
from Isaac. He's a tad slow about two minutes per item, but Phillip says, he's still learning.
HOD: You get a lot of people watching you?
SHARRETTE: Oh, yes. There's a lot of people. He really is a celebrity in his own right.
HOD (voice-over): And Isaac is just the beginning.
NEO, a humanoid by Palo Alto startup OnX, is set to hit the market in 2026. Automated helpers are taking the grunt work out of chores. With a global
household robot market expected to soar from 12 billion in 2024 to 71 billion by 2034.
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KAAN DOGRUSOZ, CO-FOUNDER, WEAVE ROBOTICS: It's picking up the toys.
HOD (voice-over): Kaan Dogrusoz says the co-founder of Weave Robotics, the company behind Isaac, says these domestic robots are giving people
something money can't buy, freedom.
DOGRUSOZ: You want to make sure that people don't have to spend time doing things that they don't want to do.
HOD (voice-over): The price tag, tens of thousands of dollars, depending on the robot.
HOD: The big question, can he do fitted sheets?
SHARRETTE: Fitted sheets, oh, with the elastic band. God, I can't do those even.
HOD (voice-over): And while Isaac has a few wrinkles to iron out, one thing's for sure, he'll never fold under pressure.
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ASHER: A little bit slower than I would like.
GOLODRYGA: Yes, you like your (INAUDIBLE).
ASHER: Step it up. Come on, honey. Step it up, please. Thank you.
GOLODRYGA: All right. You've got some gnocchi waiting for you.
ASHER: Yes. To eat my lunch.
GOLODRYGA: All right. That does it for "One World." I'm Bianna Golodryga.
ASHER: I'm Zain Asher. Appreciate you watching. "Amanpour" is up next. You're watching CNN.
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