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BIANNA GOLODRYGA, CNN HOST, ONE WORLD: Hello, everyone. Live from New York. I'm Bianna Golodryga.
ZAIN ASHER, CNN HOST, ONE WORLD: And I'm Zain Asher. You are watching "One World". Outrage and a lot of anguish right now in Minneapolis. I want to
show you some live pictures of a protest in St. Paul, Minnesota, outside of an I.C.E. facility, people there have really gathered just one day after
I.C.E. agents shot and killed Renee Nicole Good.
That's mother of three. They shot her in her SUV. A few hours ago, law enforcement and protesters clashed with police officers firing pepper balls
at the demonstrators.
GOLODRYGA: Yeah, on Wednesday, Good had just dropped off her six-year-old son at school when the fatal encounter had happened. We have new video of
that incident, which we want to warn you, is disturbing. You can see her dark colored SUV on the right in the surveillance video from a nearby home.
Now the agents can be seen near the vehicle and then converging on it. The SUV begins to move, and that is when the fatal shots are fired.
ASHER: Yeah, before this, the video shows the SUV had actually been stationary and sideways across the road like that for about three minutes.
The reason for that is not clear at this time. Any minute now, we expect to hear from Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem.
Yesterday, she said the officer feared for his life, adding that the 37- year-old mother of three was committing what Noem called an act of domestic terrorism.
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KRISTI NOEM, U.S. HOMELAND SECURITY SECRETARY: I.C.E. agents repeatedly ordered her to get out of the car and to stop instructing, obstructing law
enforcement, but she refused to obey their commands. She then proceeded to weaponize her vehicle, and she attempted to run a law enforcement officer
over.
This appears as an attempt to kill or to cause bodily harm to agents, an act of domestic terrorism.
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GOLODRYGA: President Trump echoed Homeland Security's explanation of the shooting. He also blamed what he calls the radical left for, quote,
threatening, assaulting and targeting our law enforcement officers and I.C.E. agents on a daily basis.
ASHER: Whitney Wild is joining us live now from Minneapolis. So obviously there are conflicting narratives here. You've got what Kristi Noem saying
on the one hand, you've what eyewitnesses and bystanders are saying on the other hand. And then there's the video, and we see the video from multiple
angles.
Just explain to me the key question here is whether or not Ms. Good actually posed a threat. Did she actually pose a threat to law enforcement
officers at the time she was shot? What does the video show for sure, Whitney?
WHITNEY WILD, CNN LAW ENFORCEMENT CORRESPONDENT: Well, it certainly shows multiple angles of an incident that people are viewing completely
differently. The Department of Homeland Security looks at that video and says this was justified. They say that she posed a threat to that officer.
He was in fear for his life. He feared for the lives of those around him, and so that is why he shot into the vehicle. People here are offended by
that narrative. To put it mildly, Governor Tim Walz, Mayor Jacob Frey, spoke out in no uncertain terms and said that that narrative is patently
false.
And so, again what it shows is two different readings of what is the same material here in Minneapolis. I think it's important for people to
understand why there is so much suspicion about what is being said. This is the city that has had to rebuild in the aftermath of the George Floyd
killing.
That happened four blocks from where I'm standing, and so that -- if you remember that incident began with a statement from law enforcement that was
not true. And so, there's heightened suspicion here, because they've lived what was a lie before. And so, when they hear these narratives that they
feel conflict with what they see, there is rage that proliferates throughout the City of Minneapolis.
Yesterday when I was speaking with people in the crowd in the aftermath of those steps from where the incident happened, there was palpable anger.
They were screaming at me for even saying what DHS was saying. They were screaming at law enforcement who was trying to control the scene.
They were screaming at federal law enforcement as they were leaving, throwing snow balls, throwing ice at law enforcement vehicles throughout
the afternoon. That is how angry people are here. There are protests at a federal building. We are starting to see the city react.
The hope is that they don't react in the same way that the reaction bubble up after George Floyd and the city has worked really hard to rebuild.
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And the police department has worked really hard to change to ensure that that does not happen. Here on the ground, people are taking a moment to
remember Renee Nicole Good. Let me walk you over to this vigil here that continues to grow. We are now seeing dozens of candles, dozens of bouquets
of flowers, a cross that says, rest in peace, your memory will forever be a blessing.
This is where she spent her last moments on Earth. Beneath the flowers, her blood was still staining the snow when this vigil began yesterday. That was
how fresh that crime scene was, and the pain here still fresh as well. Back to you.
ASHER: Right, Whitney Wild live for us there. Thank you so much. Appreciate it. Right in the past 24 hours, hundreds of mourners have been paying their
respects in the fritters cold. Several questions remain over how this deadly shooting could have happened, why it happened?
Much of it captured on both phones and surveillance video as well. I want to warn you that some of the videos we are about to show you may indeed be
disturbing. Want to slow down this footage on the screen for you and just really walk you through what is happening here.
One I.C.E. agent seen putting his hand on the SUV, attempting to open the driver's side of the door as it begins to move and reverse backwards.
Another officer comes around the front, there you see it of the vehicle, and will freeze it there, so you can actually see and that agent's hand is
on his holster.
From another angle, it does appear the SUV makes some contact with the agent as it moves.
GOLODRYGA: Now, keep your eye on the front left fender of this vehicle. Witnesses say it looked like Renee Nicole Good was turning away from the
agent as the fatal shots were fired. The SUV then drives off. Moments later, video shows it slamming into a parked car on the side of the road.
This image from the scene shows a bullet hole in the windshield. So, let's discuss with our Senior Law Enforcement Analyst Charles Ramsey. Charles,
it's good to have you on. Thank you so much for joining us. A lot of emotion here, a lot of heated rhetoric from all sides.
And interesting to see a quite different take from Kristi Noem early on after the shooting, calling this driver a domestic terrorist, where then
you had Tom Homan, the border czar in an interview, respond in a much more measured manner, saying that there just needs to be more of an
investigation and information released that he couldn't comment on it right now.
From everything that you have seen over what has been nearly 24 hours since the shooting from the video, do you believe the use of deadly force was
warranted?
CHARLES RAMSEY, CNN SENIOR LAW ENFORCEMENT ANALYST: Well, first of all, I've investigated probably hundreds of officers involved shootings over my
career, and most recently, using body worn camera video in the last decade or so, since that's become available, and I've watched this video time and
time again.
Now, there are some tactical things that obviously could have been done differently that officer the one of the things you learn in training, and I
don't know of a department that doesn't train us, you don't stand in front or behind a car that when they're -- when the engine is running, because a
person can either back up and hit you, or it can go forward and hit you.
He had an opportunity to get out of the way, and he's standing right in front of it. That's number one. But let's get if the benefit of the doubt.
He says he's fear for his life. OK. So, he fires around through the front windshield. When you have multiple rounds fired and you're investigating
these things, you look to see whether or not each and every shot is justified.
Now he fires twice more on the side of the vehicle, the vehicles past him. It's no longer a threat. If the issue is that vehicles being used as a
weapon, all right, cars move either forward or backwards. They do not move sideways. And so, you're standing on the side now, and you fire another
shot.
What would be interesting to know would be whether or not the fatal bullet came from in front through that windshield. So, it was some wound to the
face or forehead or something like that, or was it the side of the head that she did? My understanding is it was a head shot.
Anyway, it would be just interesting to see. You know which round was the fatal round, but you have to look at if you fire three times, you look to
see if each one of these rounds, at the time of the firing, was that a justified use of deadly force. And even if he's arguing, the first one was
because the car was moving forward, even though the wheels were turned.
It didn't look like she was going at him. But, you know, you get tunnel vision. I've been in shootings. You can get tunnel vision. You don't see
everything, and you don't have the benefit of video tape to watch it over and over again. This stuff happens very quickly, but when you move to the
side, the vehicles pass now.
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The threat is gone. You know, the deadly force, in my opinion, at that point in time, would definitely was not justified.
ASHER: And so, when you hear the Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem say, and these are her words, that Ms. Good was essentially
attempting to weaponize her vehicle, she was trying to run over the officer, and that the federal agent used his training to save his own life
and that of his colleague.
I mean, obviously you're talking about the fact that when you look closely at the video, he was still firing as she was driving away from him, where
she was no longer technically a threat, if she was one at all in the first place. The fact that you have Secretary Noem coming out and making these
sorts of statements prior to any kind of independent review or investigation, your thoughts on that?
RAMSEY: It's inappropriate. It's just flat out wrong, in my opinion. I mean, you have to also look at what happens during the course of an
investigation. The person who leaves the agency eventually signs off on the report, whether it's justified, not justified, or whatever, she's come out
within 10 minutes saying that the thing was justified.
You with no facts, no evidence, no nothing. That taints the entire investigation in my opinion, there needs to be a third party, independent,
objective review of this case. You let the cars fall where they may. I mean, this may not result in anything criminal, but people need to have an
objective third party review of this.
And quite frankly, I don't think DHS has the credibility any longer to be able to conduct that kind of investigation and have it hold up as being
credible.
GOLODRYGA: Yeah. And at the same time, there are questions about whether or not the mayor was in a position to come out soon after and say that this
was not an act of self-defense, but an act of power. So, you have the head of DHS --
RAMSEY: I --
GOLODRYGA: Go ahead.
RAMSEY: -- I was going to say, everybody is jumping the gun here, in my opinion. You know you want to have an investigation, and you want to get as
many facts as possible. Now obviously the video tells a story, but it only tells part of a story, and you have to when you're investigating these
things, you got to look at everything.
I understand the anger. I understand the emotion. I understand all that. And in looking at it, I can say that I have questions as to whether or not
at least the second and third shot were justified.
GOLODRYGA: Right.
RAMSEY: And again, you don't just the whole, you got to look at each individual, you know, use of deadly force.
GOLODRYGA: Right.
RAMSEY: But until an investigation is conducted, it's just premature to make too many definitive statements regarding the case.
ASHER: And what does an investigation here look like, what are the first steps? I mean, I imagine talking to bystanders, looking at any kind of
surveillance camera that came from, you know, some of the homes along that street, talking to neighbors. I mean, what -- just walk us through the
various steps in any kind of investigation here.
RAMSEY: You pretty much covered it. I mean, that's basically it. I mean, it's a homicide investigation, is what it is, even though it's an officer
involved shooting. So, you have a crime scene, you have to make sure that, that is properly processed. You want to interview witnesses.
You want to gather video. You want to speak with the officer who is involved. You want to speak with other officers who are at the scene. If
anyone was wearing a body worn camera, I don't believe they were, but that would be part of the evidence that you would be gathering and you would be
reviewing in order to draw any kind of conclusions at all.
Now, if it's a possibility of this being a criminal case, then the administrative part of it, and by that, I mean, whether or not you violated
any rules, regulations or policy would be halted until the criminal investigation portion is complete. That's your standard procedure.
So, you actually have two different investigations going on simultaneously, one internal administrative I'll call it, which is looking at policy Patri
training, all those kinds of things. But the other would be whether or not the actions of the officers were criminal. And one last thing, when he
fires that shot, especially the one from the front.
When you look at that tape, one of his own people standing less than a foot away from the door, I mean, it was just tactically poor all the way around.
But again, that doesn't make it criminal, but it certainly doesn't make it the kind of shooting that is being portrayed by Secretary Noem and others.
GOLODRYGA: Yeah. Add to that the weather, the icy conditions on the road, you actually see that officer who was trying to open the door initially
slip and so you're right that he could have been hurt or shot as well in this process. Again, this is a matter of seconds, even less than a few
seconds, that this all took place. We do also --
RAMSEY: And we never reach inside of the car.
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GOLODRYGA: Yeah.
RAMSEY: That's, you know, policing 101, that's how you get --
GOLODRYGA: Well, that --
RAMSEY: -- dragged down the street. You never do that.
GOLODRYGA: That's what I wanted to ask you about, the difference in training from I.C.E. officers and police officers. We know that I.C.E.
officers are not required to wear body cam footage, though. I do believe that the officer who fired the shots was filming at a certain point that he
had his own phone, maybe his personal phone in his left hand.
Talk about the training differences between what I.C.E. is prepared for and what police officers are prepared for, especially and trained for in urban
areas like this.
Well, you know, I'm not totally familiar with training that I.C.E. or border patrol get, but I do know, as far as municipal policing. One of the
biggest differences is just the way in which you interact with the public on a regular basis, how you conduct car stops for an example, if it's a
felony car stop, it's just a typical car stop or whatever.
I mean, your tactics, the way in which you approach a car, the way in which you talk to the occupant of the car, they were very aggressive. The one
officer who walked up pretty fast and grabbed the door handle, you know, get out of the effing car, and tried to yank it open and so forth.
I mean, that stuff's just not necessary. And when you look at these things, you have to look at the totality of circumstances. And even though that's
not the shooting itself, what you just looked at the conduct of the way in which they're handling themselves at I.C.E. and it leads to bad outcomes, I
guess, is the point I'm trying to make.
You know, and you couple that with the kind of rhetoric that you're hearing from elected officials and others. I mean, this is a tense situation. They
are sitting on a powder keg in Minneapolis, and it's not going to take much of a spark to make it totally blow up.
And my fear is always the longer this thing goes, and you start getting people from outside of Minneapolis and outside of Minnesota, coming in to
protest. That's when you start to lose control. And if you look at that image right there with the -- I guess that's I.C.E. agents or border patrol
trying to do some problems -- carrying heavy weapons at the time they're doing it.
I mean, you know, those are the kinds of things that you know you just simply would not do in training and school police department, you just
wouldn't do that.
GOLODRYGA: Yeah. Well, we know that tear gas was dispersed earlier today, as you're right. Things have become increasingly tense this morning,
authorities have been warning all to lower the temperature here, obviously having the right to exercise their right of speech and to gather, but to do
so in a non-aggressive and non-threatening manner.
Our own CNN reporting shows that as the I.C.E. agents entered the city and arrived there just weeks ago, that they were advised that there could be
scenes like this, and that they should call law enforcement, police officers in at a certain point. So, there is a lot of concern that things
here could indeed escalate quickly.
Charles Ramsey, thank you so much. And as we said earlier, we expect to hear from Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem any moment now. We'll
bring that to you when her comments begin about this incident. If they do come up in her comments. We'll bring that to you when it happens.
ASHER: And when we come back, new video shows us what happened in the moments after that deadly Minneapolis shooting. Here how one neighbor
describes the intense scene.
GOLODRYGA: Plus, the White House is ramping up threats to take control of Greenland. What the U.S. President is now saying, that's just ahead.
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ASHER: Well, we have some breaking news out of Syria to share with you. The Syrian army has launched new strikes in Aleppo is fighting with Kurdish led
Syrian Democratic Forces intensifies. You're looking at the skyline of Aleppo, showing strikes and smoke rising from clashes throughout areas in
the city.
GOLODRYGA: Now the army identified areas over several maps, saying that there would be targeted strikes there, urging residents to leave
immediately for their safety. Of course, we'll continue to follow the latest with this story as it comes in. But we do want to return now to the
fallout from that deadly Minneapolis shooting.
One video shows a man identifying himself as a physician attempting to approach Renee Nicole Good's vehicle shortly after she was shot. Another
warning for you the following video may be disturbing.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I go check a poll.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No back up now.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm a physician.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: -- understand. We got EMS coming and I get it? Just give us a second. We have medics on feed. We have our own medics.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Where are they? Where are they? How can I relax? You just kill -- my neighbor. You caught -- in the face. You killed my --
neighbor. How do you show up to work every day? How do you do this every day? You're killing my neighbors. You're stealing my neighbors. What the --
man?
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ASHER: Emily Heller, who recorded that video says it took at least 15 minutes before an ambulance arrived. She also says I.C.E. vehicles block
the street, forcing paramedics to carry the victim on foot -- listen, that's what she had to say.
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EMILY HELLER, WITNESS: There was a an I.C.E. convoy that was that seemed to be stuck, and then there was a protestor who was blocking traffic so they
couldn't progress. And she was totally peaceful, and I.C.E., it seemed completely unorganized. They didn't really know what they were doing.
They were screaming at her to move, move, move. And then they approached her vehicle aggressively and grabbed and tried to open her door. And then
that's when she got spooked, and she reversed her vehicle to turn her wheels to try to escape. And that's when an I.C.E. agent stepped in front
of her vehicle and said, stop, and then, I mean, she was already moving, and then, point blank, shot her through her windshield in the face.
I don't want to be here, but I knew that this would be twisted and it would be self-defense, and that's absolutely not what happened. But it's just I -
- my life is forever changed from having witnessed this. And I'm -- I just can't let this narrative that it was self-defense go any further, because
it's absolutely not what it was.
And yeah, my neighborhood, my neighbors, we're all going to be pretty traumatized from this for a long time.
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ASHER: Right, Maria Santana is on the ground in Minneapolis. She's keeping a close eye on the fallout. I mean, obviously we've been hearing from
bystanders, right? Bystanders rather, throughout the morning, a lot of people are disputing what I.C.E. agents are saying, that this officer in
particular feared for his life, that he thought his life was an imminent danger.
Just explain to us so far, what has the reaction been from the community to this deadly shooting?
MARIA SANTANA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Bianna, Zain, as you can imagine, there has been a lot of anger, a lot of outrage, but also a lot of grief and
sadness. Let me show you the scene here.
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This is where the incident took place. And as you can see, there's a memorial that has been set up for the victim, who has been identified as
37-year-old, Renee Good. You can see the flowers. You can see the candles, messages. People have been gathering here all morning.
They have come, they say, to pay their respects to a woman that they say did not deserve to die like this. A part of this outrage comes from what
they say is a totally contradictory version of events. The official version, what the Trump Administration is saying is that Renee Good was
trying to run over this I.C.E. agent, but video evidence and witness accounts say that she was just trying to get away from them.
Her family has spoken to some local outlets and say that it seems like she might have found herself in this situation, and when those officers
approached her, that she might have gotten scared and she tried to leave, but that she was not trying to run them over or attack them in any way as
President Trump and Secretary of the Homeland Security Kristi Noem, have said.
I have spoken to a few people here, some members of the Latino community, especially, there's been a lot of fear in these communities because of the
crackdown on immigration by the Trump Administration. Federal agents have been sent to Minnesota, to other democratic cities, and they've been just
arresting people indiscriminately, they say.
And I did speak to one gentleman who just had this very visceral emotional reaction to what happened as a member of that community. Let's listen.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's a human being. We have no animals. We are not animals. We are a human being.
SANTANA: And that was, you know, the reaction, a reaction I've heard a lot, is that it doesn't matter your immigration status, who you are, where you
come from, that everybody deserves some humanity. They see this. They feel this, especially since it happened only a few blocks away from where George
Floyd was killed a little over five years ago by a police officer, something that still had this community reeling and then this happens.
That gentleman actually told me that he has been in this country 15 years. He's from Nicaragua. He's a U.S. citizen, and he has to carry around his
passport. He's never had to do that before, and still, he does not feel safe. He does not feel that he can go out and not be stopped or detained by
these I.C.E. agents.
Now we are expecting that press conference from Secretary Kristi Noem and also a presser later this afternoon from Minnesota Governor Tim Walz, who
has called for I.C.E. to leave the state, Zain, Bianna.
ASHER: Right, Maria Santana live for us there. Thank you. Right, still to come at the White House ramps up the rhetoric about a possible takeover of
Greenland. We'll hear what a Greenlandic member of the Danish Parliament has to say.
GOLODRYGA: Plus, President Trump lays out a timeline for what's ahead for Venezuela. What he said in a recent interview, will bring you, his
comments. That's next.
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ASHER: Right. Welcome back to "One World". I'm Zain Asher.
GOLODRYGA: And I'm Bianna Golodryga. Here are some headlines we're watching today.
ASHER: Outrage in Minneapolis, one day after I.C.E. agents shot and killed Renee Nicole Good, a mother of three. A few hours ago, law enforcement and
protesters clashed with some officers firing pepper balls. Governor Tim Walz says he has been, quote, warning for weeks that I.C.E. operations post
a threat to public safety.
GOLODRYGA: The U.S. Senate is preparing to vote on a measure that would limit President Trump's war powers in Venezuela. Democratic Senator Tim
Kaine says that he's still trying to secure the votes needed to pass the resolution. This comes days after the U.S. captured Nicolas Maduro to stand
trial in the United States.
ASHER: And Russia is warning that foreign troops in Ukraine would be, quote, legitimate targets. It was responding to French and British plans to
send troops to guarantee Ukraine security in the event of a peace deal.
GOLODRYGA: The Trump Administration is actively discussing potentially buying Greenland. That's according to White House Press Secretary, Karoline
Leavitt, who has President Trump is pushing for a diplomatic solution, but is keeping his options open. Many Republican lawmakers have pushed back
against any use of the military to acquire Greenland.
ASHER: Right, for more on this, let's bring in Aaja Chemnitz, who is a Greenlandic politician serving in the Danish Parliament. Ms. Chemnitz, you
know, obviously this is a very sort of extraordinary time for global politics. I mean, we saw what happened just a week ago in Venezuela.
And obviously Donald Trump has been making threats against Greenland for quite a number of years, actually, months, especially recently. But now it
sort of seems to be much more nerve wracking because of what we saw over the weekend, that he's actually willing to go through with some of these
threats.
Can you talk to us about some of the conversations that are happening behind the scenes with, for example, Secretary of State, Marco Rubio?
There's been some talk about the possibility that Trump might actually resort to using the U.S. military to perhaps take over Greenland by force.
But at the same time, we have other members of the Trump Administration who are saying, no, no, that's simply a threat. We're going to try to get them
to give it to us in other ways, perhaps through a possible sale. Just walk us through what is being discussed behind the scenes, particularly with
Marco Rubio.
AAJA CHEMNITZ, GREENLANDIC MEMBER OF THE DANISH PARLIAMENT: There's going to be a meeting with Rubio, and it's going to be the Greenland again, the
Danish Foreign Affairs Minister, though, who's going to meet with him. And I think it's great that there's a meeting going on, because I think it's
important to take it back to a diplomatic way of talking about these things.
So, in many ways, they're in you can say that it has been quite intense to be honest. It's been quite concerning, also as a Greenlander, and quite
offensive to be honest. And therefore, I think it's important that we make sure that we have a dialog and we get back to diplomatic ways of talking to
each other.
GOLODRYGA: And it's important to note that U.S. already has sweeping military access to Greenland under a Cold War era agreement made between
the United States there in 1951. And yet that doesn't seem to suffice for President Trump, your prime minister, this week made headlines by saying
that any sort of military force against a NATO member would then lead to the end of NATO itself.
I don't think many actually envision a scenario where U.S. troops are on the ground in Greenland, though anything is possible, but the more likely
scenario would be a forced sale.
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In that case in your view, would that also mean the end of NATO?
CHEMNITZ: You know, Greenland is not for sale. And therefore, it's a very difficult situation to talk about, because how can you buy something when
there's no one to sell something for you, for example. So, therefore, I think it's important to really understand that we need to sit at the table.
I think it's great that U.S., Greenland and Denmark are going to have a debate on the issue. And it's the representatives of the governments and
then we have to see what happens after that. I have said many times, I think it's a marathon, it's not a short sprint. And therefore, I think it's
important, especially for Greenland and to Denmark, to have a very close dialog on this issue.
And to make sure that people understand at the U.S. government that Greenland is not for sale and never will be for sale.
ASHER: You've had the Leaders of France, Germany, Italy, Poland, Spain and the UK, essentially reaffirming that Greenland belongs to its people. Any
decisions regarding the future of Greenland obviously belongs to Greenland and Denmark. But beyond just sort of political statements, what sort of
reassurances if any, can Europe actually give to Greenland and Denmark at a time like this.
CHEMNITZ: You know, the U.S. government is not ruling out and annexating our country, and I think this is what is very offensive to us as a
Greenlandic population. And therefore, I think it's important to make sure that we get back to this diplomatic way of talking to each other.
But I also think it's important to say that we need to strengthen the defense that's an area and a responsibility for the Danish government in
Greenland, and in many ways, it's also something that we could talk much more with what the U.S. government on this issue.
We need to make sure that we have more business development in Greenland. So, we have different areas that is -- that we're eager to discuss, but
Greenland has been open for sale for no -- Greenland has been sorry, I need to say it differently. Greenland is open for business and not for sale.
And we have said that many, many times, and it's important for us to make sure that the U.S. government really understand that.
GOLODRYGA: Well, Greenlanders have overwhelmingly opposed any sort of U.S. takeover. But much of this debate now is squared, both in Copenhagen and in
Washington. Are you concerned that Greenlanders themselves are being treated as an object rather than a political -- and a political actor here
and the entity that really should be the focus?
CHEMNITZ: As a Greenlandic citizen and also as a mother, I think it's important to say that this is really something that people of Greenland is
concerned about. This is something that is being discussed, of course, because we have been in the media for quite a long time.
And Trump has been putting a pressure on the Greenlandic society. And I think in many ways, we need to make sure that we need a diplomatic way of
speaking to each other, instead of doing it in this manner. And that's what's important for us. Greenland is not for sale.
ASHER: Right. Aaja Chemnitz, thank you. Thank you so much. Appreciate you sharing your perspective with us. As the Trump Administration scrambles to
map out a long-term strategy for Venezuela, Donald Trump is saying the U.S. could be running Venezuela for years. In a brand-new interview with "The
New York Times", Trump responded to question about timeline, saying quote, only time will tell.
GOLODRYGA: Yeah, and a nearly two-hour interview with "The New York Times", the president also said, quote, we will rebuild it in a very profitable
way. We're going to be using oil, and we're going to be taking oil. We're getting oil prices down. We're going to be giving money to Venezuela, which
they desperately need.
ASHER: All right. Let's bring in White House Reporter Alayna Treene. So just Alayna, obviously, this was a wide-ranging interview with "The New
York Times". I think some of the key headlines was this idea of just being so uncertain about the timeline that this idea that, you know, the U.S.
could end up controlling Venezuela for years.
Walk us through some of the sort of news making ideas or the bigger points that Trump made in this interview.
ALAYNA TREENE, CNN WHITE HOUSE REPORTER: Yeah, look, I think that was one of the most notable, but I should note as well that it really matches up
with what I've been hearing in my conversations with people in the White House, which is that they do not have a precise timeline for what this is
going to look like, and for how long the Trump Administration, and Trump's words, is really going to be running Venezuela and specifically how long
may plan to really try and control the oil experts coming out of Caracas.
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Now, one of the notable things that I actually took away from this was when the president said that the interim government right now inside Venezuela,
of course, that's referring to Venezuela's now Acting President Delcy Rodriguez, who I should note, of course, was formerly Maduro's Vice
President.
She is very much a loyalist, and those serving with her are all loyal to now captured Nicolas Maduro. But he essentially said in this interview, he
said that they are, quote, giving us everything that we feel is necessary. That's a big deal. It shows a level of cooperation that is likely happening
behind the scenes.
I know in my conversations with people in that building behind me, Zain and Bianna, that Secretary of State, Marco Rubio, has had several conversations
now with Rodriguez, many of which he speaks to her influenced Spanish. But it's important as well, because of the conditions we know that the Trump
Administration is really laying out and demanding of Venezuela and Rodriguez.
Specifically, this idea of severing economic ties with the United States, foreign adversaries, countries like China, Russia, Iran, Cuba, all of which
had, of course, been propping up Maduro for so long. But then also, they've demanded as well that they want the interim government to exclusively
partner with the United States and oil companies of the Trump Administration's choice, really, in all of their future oil sales.
There're some other things as well we know that they have been translating to Rodriguez and her government things like, they want to ensure that
Venezuela ultimately and eventually releases all political prisoners. They want to have free and fair elections at some point in the future, and they
want to work with Venezuela to try and rid the country of its drug gangs.
Now, of course, there's big question marks on how much that is actually or how quickly that could actually happen, and whether they will actually take
the steps to do so. But I think in putting it in contrast to what the he said to the times and wanting to be there for several years, but he also
talked about, you know, the opposition inside Venezuela.
I think a lot of questions we've been hearing this, not only from Democrats, but Republicans on Capitol Hill as well, questioning why this
administration has kind of dismissed, and the president really specifically dismissing Venezuela's Opposition Leader Maria Corina Machado, someone who,
of course, previously had actually won the election in Venezuela.
And that's because they are really trying to work with, you know, administrative stability, to focus on that at this moment, before moving
toward a more democratic process, at least that's what they're saying in my conversations behind the scenes. And so, we have to see how this all works
out.
But for the priority right now, they say it really is about oil and trying to drive out the United States foreign adversaries, because the real goal
in a lot of this, is that the president believes that in doing so, he will really raise the influence that the United States has in the entire Western
Hemisphere.
It's actually kind of similar to how he views Greenland. I know you were just talking about that previously. He wants to have the United States have
similar influence in the Arctic to try and push away aggression from the Chinese and the Russians. And so that's the ultimate goal here.
We just really don't know how long this is actually going to play out. And of course, the legal basis for having some sort of indefinite presence in a
country like Venezuela.
GOLODRYGA: And the business of it all too ahead of this important meeting tomorrow with oil executives, these aren't state run oil companies. These
are a capitalist system where you've got these companies not accountable to the president but to their shareholders. Will they be willing to invest in
a long-term project here with still so much uncertainty?
As Zain reminded me, fascinating interview with "The New York Times", we're in the middle of it.
TREENE: Yeah.
GOLODRYGA: The president takes a phone call with the President of Colombia. It looks like they've cooled some of their rhetoric went from saying he's
better got to watch his ass to than perhaps inviting him to the White House.
TREENE: Yeah.
GOLODRYGA: Alayna, before you leave, congratulations on a well-deserved promotion.
TREENE: Thank you --
GOLODRYGA: Officially a CNN Correspondent. And we are so lucky to have you looking forward to many, many, many more "One World" hits with you. Thank
you.
TREENE: Thank you both so much.
ASHER: All right, still to come here on "One World", the European Union is slamming Donald Trump's move to pull the U.S. out of a bed rock
international climate treaty. More on the fallout and what this means for the fight against global warming.
GOLODRYGA: Plus, as protesters expressed anger and outrage over the I.C.E. shooting in Minneapolis, we'll take a look at the life of Renee Nicole
Good.
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ASHER: We expect to hear from Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem, any minute now about the incident in Minneapolis yesterday, in which I.C.E.
agents shot and killed 37-year-old Renee Good.
GOLODRYGA: And we have new information on the investigation. Minnesota officials say that they have been forced to withdraw from investigating the
incident after the FBI took control of the case.
ASHER: Hours after the shooting, neighbors gathered at a vigil near the scene to remember Renee Nicole Good. Shrine of flowers and candles was
placed as Good's name was chanted. So, what exactly do we know about her?
GOLODRYGA: So far, we know that she was a mother of three children, ages 15, 12, and 6. And according to the Minnesota Star Tribune, Good was born
in Colorado and moved to Minnesota last year, living in the Twin Cities with her partner. Her mother, saying, quote, Renee was one of the kindest
people I've ever known.
Extremely compassionate. Renee Good's husband, a military veteran, died in 2023. Good's father has been speaking to "The Washington Post", saying she
had a good life, but a hard life. She was a wonderful person. She was caught in a bad situation today, but we don't know the facts.
ASHER: Now people in Good's community gathered to lay flowers near where she was shot.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This young lady did not deserve to be killed, and we are heart broken. What's taking place in our city in here, Minneapolis.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I showed up with my friend here who brought the flowers, to give flowers, to honor her and to honor all of us in struggle,
and honor all of us who are resisting.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Mr. Trump, come to Minnesota. We invite you to come here. Where is the terrorist, is in here in the United States, in this
government? Or where is it in outside the United States? I think today what happened in here is unacceptable.
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GOLODRYGA: Well, as we've been reporting, President Trump and members of his administration have asserted that they want to acquire Greenland,
despite the fact that neither Greenland nor Denmark agreed. Our Nic Robertson is live in nook Greenland with the very latest.
And Nic, first of all, it is so great to have you on the ground there. We just spoke with a Greenlandic official who said to us point blank that
Greenland is open for business, not for sale. That's not resonating quite yet with the White House. What have you heard in your short time there,
once you have arrived, since you have arrived in Greenland?
NIC ROBERTSON, CNN INTERNATIONAL DIPLOMATIC EDITOR: You know, everyone talks their taxi driver right, when they arrive. And what did the taxi
driver say to us? Because we asked about this, and he asked why we were here, and what we were doing.
And he said, nodded Sage Lee (ph), the gentleman from actually from the very far north of Greenland. We're in the south in Nuuk here. And he said,
look, Donald Trump thinks he's a big man, and we don't think he is. We don't think what he's offering is great. In fact, if you look at the
polling last year, only 6 percent of the people of Greenland said that they wanted the United States to run the country, to have the country.
Although a lot of people here do want independents to more than two thirds, maybe as many as 80 percent. They're not rushing towards it. We're talking
about decades, and they're certainly not looking at the United States, maybe Iceland, maybe Norway. So, I think the idea that the United States
could somehow do what Secretary Rubio, Marco Rubio talked about yesterday, or hinted at yesterday, he said, absolutely the president has the right
still to have military intervention for a national security reason.
Every president has that. There's no difference there. But he did sort of indicate, as a diplomat, he wants to find another way. And the indications
have been to buy Greenland, if you will. But that's exactly the point that you're making. And your last guest was making that there are about 200 U.S.
troops here.
Decades ago, there was more than 10,000. They the Danish and the Greenlanders say the U.S. troops are welcome to come back here at all the
bases, at all the important military sites to them that they've been at before others. If they want them in the numbers that they want, they can
have access to the mineral resources here, the rare earths, as long as they put the investment in in the businesses, they can have all of that.
We're here for business. You probably got a sense of this from your guests as well, that this is heartfelt to the Danes, to the Greenlanders. The
Danes have positioned themselves, really, since the end of World War Two, as the one of the closest allies to the United States, done everything that
they wanted open the doors.
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So, it's not only something that they don't want, but it's a huge affront to be asking for this. And add on to the top of that, what with the words
that we've heard from the Danish Prime Minister earlier this week, that if the United States was to take Greenland by force, then that would break
NATO.
You've heard from the European Union, the leaders in Paris, the group of the willing, council of the willing. Earlier in the week, Coalition of the
Willing, you heard from Costa Secretary, European Union Council President, Costa saying it's very clear. European Union stands behind the people of
Denmark and Greenland.
The European Union is united. Decisions about Greenland can only be decided by the Greenlandic people, that decisions about the future of Greenland and
Denmark can only be decided by then, no one else. The language is very clear to President Trump right now.
And I think there's a big sort of collective pause going on at the moment. The Danish Foreign Secretary, who's called to take down the temperature for
more nuance in the conversation, who asked just a couple of days ago to have a meeting with Secretary of State, Marco Rubio.
Secretary of State said he would have that next week. There's a desire here to have that happen quicker.
GOLODRYGA: Yeah. And ever the consummate reporter and journalist, Nic Robertson, it's important to have sources and government and high-level
officials, but the most important are those --
ASHER: Taxi drivers --
GOLODRYGA: -- on the ground, taxi drivers. I remember, that's what Peter Jennings always did when he traveled around the world. First thing he did
was talk to taxi drivers. Well done, our friend. Literally in cooling, in wet cold weather, bringing down the temperature, you're on the ground
there. Thanks so much for everything, Nic.
ASHER: Stay with CNN. We'll have much more "One World" after the short break.
ROBERTSON: Thank you.
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