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Trump Issues Ultimatum To Iran To Reopen Strait Of Hormuz; Daring Mission To Recover A Downed American In Iran; Israel: Four Killed In Iranian Strike On Haifa; Artemis II Astronauts To Get Unprecedented View Of Moon; Savannah Guthrie Returns To NBC's "Today" Show; Iranian Embassies Mock Trump's Expletive-Laden Message; Brands Pulling Sponsorship Over Kanye West Headlining Event; Designer Uses Food Waste To Create Sustainable Fine Jewelry; Aired 12-1p ET
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ZAIN ASHER, CNN ANCHOR: Significant, but not good enough. The White House and Tehran stands at a ceasefire stalemate.
BIANNA GOLODRYGA, CNN ANCHOR: The second hour of "One World" starts right now.
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DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Right now, they're not too strong at all, in my opinion, but we're soon going to find out, aren't we?
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GOLODRYGA: Iran says, it's got the upper hand. In the next hour, President Trump will be speaking to the media.
ASHER: Plus, everything we know about the daring rescue over the weekend. At what point American troops were forced to blow up their own aircrafts?
Also ahead.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's hard to wrap your mind around. Like, I mean, that sincerely. It really bends your mind.
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GOLODRYGA: One giant leap for mankind. Day six of the Artemis II mission has begun, and we could be just moments away from intergalactic history.
ASHER: And later festival fallout, Kanye West is headlining one of the U.K.'s biggest concerts, and sponsors have a major problem with it. Who's
pulling out? Up ahead.
All right. Coming to you live from New York, I'm Zain Asher.
GOLODRYGA: And I'm Bianna Golodryga. You are watching the second hour of "One World."
And in the next hour, President Trump will address the war with Iran at the White House. Iranian state media says Tehran has presented a response to a
proposal for ending the war. It rejects a 45-day ceasefire and emphasizes the need for a lasting peace.
Trump says the proposal is a significant step but says the draft put together by other countries is not good enough.
ASHER: Yes. We're also going to get an update on the remarkable rescue of a U.S. service member. President Trump says that he was rescued from deep
inside the mountains of Iran and was seriously wounded.
Trump is also threatening to strike Iranian power plants and key infrastructure, including bridges if Iran does not reopen the Strait of
Hormuz by tomorrow.
GOLODRYGA: Alayna Treene is standing by at the White House. And as we're expecting to hear from the president to answer reporter's questions in the
next hour, we got sort of a preview just a few moments ago of where the president stands right now as it relates to the war.
What did he say exactly, Alayna?
ALAYNA TREENE, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: No, that's exactly right. We got a little taste of what we can likely expect to hear at this press
conference. I want to start because I think one of the big things we're expecting for him to open his remarks with today when he addresses
reporters at 1:00 P.M. is to talk about the recovery of those two crew members who were on the F-15 fighter jet that was downed in Iran on Friday,
of course, an incredible mission that we've reported extensively on, you know, the 100 or so members of the military and intelligence who went in to
rescue that second crew member.
I want you to just listen to how the president addressed that earlier today.
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TRUMP: He's going really well (INAUDIBLE) you know, it was too. And we held off the one because we -- if you -- if they would have known we had him, so
we held off the one. They are both recovering very well. They were both injured and they're doing well.
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TREENE: So a little update from the president saying that both members are recovering very well. They were injured but are doing well. But again, this
is obviously a high point that he is going to want to emphasize and talk about later today.
But I think even more notable was what we heard him say about this 45-day proposal, ceasefire proposal that was put together by some of the crucial
intermediaries between the United States and Iran right now, you know, countries like Pakistan, Egypt and Turkey.
And I should note, they're hoping that that ceasefire, even though we're hearing different things from the Trump administration and the Iranians,
they were hoping that that type of agreement would at least buy enough time to, one, stave off that aggressive escalation.
We've heard from the president, what he threatened yesterday in a profanity-laced post, you know, threatening to -- to blow up and go after
civilian infrastructure in Iran, energy infrastructure, but also to see a 45 days could potentially be enough to try and find a more permanent type
of deal.
Now, the president, for his part, said that it was a significant step. He said it's not good enough. That's his words, but it's a very significant
step. He said they're negotiating. We'll see what happens.
And one thing we heard from him as well was him arguing that the new leadership in charge of the Iranian regime is more reasonable. We've heard
him say this before, but he essentially told reporters today that the third group of people he's referring to having different attacks take out other
leaders, of course, in Iran, he's saying this third group of people we're dealing with is not as radicalized. And we think they're actually much
smarter.
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Now, of course, unclear where any of this is actually going to go with this ceasefire draft, because as you mentioned, the Iranians are rejecting it
saying they do not want a temporary ceasefire. They want a more permanent type of deal.
All to say, I think there are a lot of questions to see what the president is actually going to say at 1:00 P.M. Among them, of course, is what he is
going to do regarding this potential proposal. If he's still hoping diplomacy is an option to stave off the energy attacks, he is -- he's kind
of previewed if they do not meet that deadline of 8:00 P.M. tomorrow to reopen the strait.
And I think another big question, of course, as well, is really if he still sees this war ending in that two to three week deadline he laid out when he
addressed the nation Wednesday night. There's so much that has happened, of course, in the days since then, that could be changing a lot of this, so a
lot of questions. Hopefully he'll give some clarity to you at 1:00 P.M.
GOLODRYGA: All right. We'll be covering it live. Alayna Treene, thank you.
ASHER: All right. It's the kind of mission that sounds like it's right out of a Hollywood blockbuster, an American airman rescued after his F-15 was
shot down over Iran. The injured weapons systems officer evaded capture by hiding alone in a mountain crevice behind enemy lions.
He scaled the rugged terrain to a 7,000 foot ridgeline equipped with only a pistol and a tracking beacon.
GOLODRYGA: And a source tell CNN that hundreds of special operations forces, military and intelligence personnel took part in the search.
Ultimately, it was the CIA that pinpointed his location and related to the military.
In the next hour, we expect to hear fresh comments from President Trump about this rescue and hear how one lawmaker describes the airman's actions.
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SEN. DAVID MCCORMICK (R-PA): This guy, this airman was an absolute hero. He climbed 7,000 feet. When the planners were trying to identify where he was,
they couldn't imagine that he was both injured and was able to get to that point where he could eventually be rescued.
So a remarkable operation that only America, only the American military and the American intel community could pull off.
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ASHER: Let's discuss all of this with our next guest, retired Lieutenant Colonel Amy McGrath.
This is incredible. You know, the fact that you have this crew member essentially alone for two days behind enemy lines.
I want to understand what kind of training prepares a CSO or a pilot for this kind of eventuality, because you are being actively hunted, you're
injured, you are dehydrated, you're tired, you're mentally exhausted, you know that with every movement, you could give away your location.
So you therefore have to sort of prioritize being still and being sort of quiet and -- and hiding in a crevice. I understand he was obviously in a
mountainous region, he had in a crevice, and not knowing if or when you will ever be rescued or taken captive, of course. What is that like?
LT. COL. AMY MCGRATH (RET.), FORMER MARINE COMBAT FIGHTER PILOT: Well you outlined it pretty well. I've flown very similar aircraft in the United
States Marine Corps in three combat tours. And every single combat mission that I went on, and both as a front-seater and a back-seater.
Every single flight, we go over procedures for what will happen if we happen to be shot down or have to eject from the aircraft, this very
scenario.
And, you know, one of the first things is ejection itself is a very violent act. You could be injured, knocked unconscious. And there are reports that
this particular pilot, this weapons systems officer, was injured.
You're carrying very little. You have a small survival gear with you. You have a pistol. You have a beacon and a communication device, but you are
trained on what to do, when to -- to -- to start communicating, how to start communicating.
And we also know, in the United States military, that we pride ourselves on making sure that no man is left behind. And so we know that U.S. forces are
going to come find us, use the procedures that we are trained on and we can rest assured that we're going to do everything we can to get that -- those
air crew back. And that's exactly what happened here.
GOLODRYGA: And there was obviously the military maneuvering here and all of the training that these pilots go through and those that are sent to rescue
them in case of this worst case situation which we indeed did see.
But there's also the CIA angle of this here and the deception operation that they were trying to -- they were trying to master amongst Iranians,
given that you're up against a clock of Iranian state media setting a bounty on this crewman's head.
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Just talk about how that plan unfolds and how that expedites the urgency of finding this crewman.
MCGRATH: Well, it's all about time, as you just said. And this -- this particular aircraft went down deep inside Iran. And that means that we have
to use a lot of assets, refueling assets, just to get to the point where we know that aircrew went down.
And as you talked about, there are other aspects of our government agencies that help with this, you know, the intelligence piece to help a deception
campaign so that we can try to throw off maybe anyone that is going after that downed aircrew.
Throw that -- you know, get them to go somewhere else away from that downed aircrew that we know -- we know generally where that person is. We just
have to get the assets there to pick them up safely.
And so it is a matter of time. It's like a race as to who's going to get to that downed aircraft first -- downed aircrew first.
ASHER: I loved what you said about the fact that the U.S. military sort of prides itself on making sure that no man is left behind, and so that you
know, you know for, as well as you can, I was going to say for a fact, but not really for a fact, but as well as you can know that there is a strong
chance that you're going to be, hopefully, everything goes according to plan, rescue. The U.S. military is going to do everything its power to come
and get you.
However, President Trump just spoke about an hour or so ago. And one of the things he sort of touched on was this idea of, yes, that is true, but you
still have to weigh risks. The U.S. military still has to decide when is it worth it to basically sort of spend assets and, you know, possibly risk
other lives in order to save one or two people. Just talk to us about that calculation as well.
MCGRATH: Yes, that's real. I think what makes this mission so extraordinary is not just what I just discussed earlier, but also the fact that the skies
above Iran are still dangerous while our president has told the American people last week that the Iranian air defenses have been completely and
totally destroyed. Well, clearly that's not true.
And so, you know, sending more assets, more aircraft, more troops in to get this one downed pilot and -- or there were two in this case, that -- that's
a real risk. And -- and our troops are going to have to -- to -- to look at that. Our leadership has to look at it every single time this happens.
That's why this is so extraordinary.
But, you know, it goes back to the fact that our military is -- the United States military is -- is trained and it is one of the best in the world at
-- at this.
Unfortunately, our political leadership is -- is not that good in this case. And they're sort of all over the map as to -- to what we're doing in
Iran.
GOLODRYGA: Which leadership? I'm sorry, our military leadership?
MCGRATH: Our political leadership.
GOLODRYGA: Oh.
MCGRATH: I would say our political leadership, our political objectives of the use of force have changed almost daily. And that is not a recipe for --
for winning in a place like Iran.
I think our military is going to do the best that it can. But the use of force without parried, without a political end state that's achievable, is
-- is not a good place to be. And I'm afraid that our political leadership is -- is lacking right now.
ASHER: You know what, that is obviously a separate topic. And can I just invite you back on the show to actually discuss that angle separately?
Because I think it's a separate topic and I would love to get your perspective on that, Amy. Yes?
MCGRATH: Of course.
ASHER: OK.
GOLODRYGA: We'll put you on the spot. Yes.
ASHER: Thank you. Thank you so much. Appreciate it. Amy McGrath, thank you so much for joining us.
GOLODRYGA: An anchor and a booker. Zain.
ASHER: And producer too.
GOLODRYGA: All right. Well, the -- the war is taking a higher toll on civilians.
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GOLODRYGA: Those are warning sirens near Tel Aviv, ahead of Iranian missile strikes. Israel says an Iranian missile that hit a residential building
killed four people in Haifa.
ASHER: Yes. And Iran state media says that at least five people were killed when a strike hit a house in the city of Qom.
And in Lebanon, state media reports that overnight, Israeli strikes killed at least 10 people.
GOLODRYGA: Our Jim Sciutto is live in Tel Aviv. And, Jim, I believe that the Houthis have now taken credit for one of the most recent strikes. Yet
again, targeting Israel.
Just talk to us about what the last 48 hours in particular for you, as you've been documenting Holy Week as well as Easter, has been for Israelis
there.
JIM SCIUTTO, CNN ANCHOR: Well, first, let's begin with the pace of the war, because as you have this talk of negotiations and even discussion, at least
a 45-day ceasefire, strikes in both directions, have continued.
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The U.S. and Israel resuming their strikes on following a brief pause during those operations to rescue that downed pilot strike, as you
mentioned today at Qom, which Iran says killed civilians there.
But a whole host of targets being struck by U.S. and Israeli forces as the president is now threatening to expand that target list to include, as he
said, all the bridges and all the power plants, which, of course, would have enormous impact on the civilian population there as well.
Meanwhile, Iran continues to target its neighbors and certainly Israel and certainly civilian targets here. We had multiple air raid signals today.
And just as a measure of the danger of these strikes, despite Israel's formidable air defenses, sometimes Iranian missiles get through. And there
was one in the last 24 hours in Haifa, where part of the missile brought a building down, killed four people.
Amazingly, the explosive itself didn't detonate, which might, of course, or certainly, of course, would have caused more -- more -- more damage and
more casualties.
But that's -- that's what we're feeling now on the ground here, even as you have discussions, at least, in the midst of talk of deadlines, discussions,
at least, of -- of some sort of negotiation.
ASHER: And, Jim, just in terms of marking Easter in the region, I mean, obviously, Jerusalem is the birthplace of -- of -- of Christianity, just
talk to us about how Christians are marking this moment, especially because we are in such a time of instability in that part of the world.
SCIUTTO: Yes. Certainly, and under threat. Jerusalem is under threat of Iranian missiles, much like here in Tel Aviv.
And because of those security risks, there are restrictions inside the Old City, which, of course, holds holy sites for Christians, for Muslims, and
for Jews.
So my team and I went up there to look at what Easter Sunday looked like, as well as, of course, we're in the Jewish holiday Passover inside the Old
City. And here's what we found.
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SCIUTTO: On a typical Easter Sunday, these alleys would be crowded with Christian pilgrims celebrating the holiday. But we found, in the midst of
the Iran War, different rules now for different holy sites.
This is the gate leading to the Church of the Holy Sepulchre, where Christians believed Jesus was crucified and laid to rest.
But even on Easter Sunday, this is as far as worshipers can go. Twenty priests were allowed in earlier today, but not worshipers. Israeli
officials say that's because of security.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We are very sad to hear this and to know this, because it's never happened in our life.
SCIUTTO: All entrances to the Dome of the Rock, one of the holiest sites in Islam, including that green door there down at the end of the alley, have
been closed now since the start of the war. No Muslim worshipers, even if they live here in the Old City, are allowed inside.
And here, access to the Western Wall, one of the holiest sites in Judaism, is limited to the Western Wall tunnels in groups of 50 or less.
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SCIUTTO: Those tunnels, of course, go under the Western Wall there. And in Israeli court, in the last 24 hours, expanded the limit from 50 to 100.
But I'll tell you, going through, I've been to the old city many times through the years. And particularly on holidays, it's a bustling place,
right? Full of worshipers, priests, and holy men and women from -- from multiple religions, but it was -- it was -- it was muted yesterday.
All the shops were closed, except for what they call essential shops, so basically grocery stores, et cetera. Just very little foot traffic around,
particularly the Christian and the -- and the Muslim holy sites. And it was -- you know, it's a yet one more cost of this war, right? Because of those
security threats, you see a number of people facing the consequences.
GOLODRYGA: All right. Jim Sciutto, thank you for documenting it for us. Appreciate it.
Well, history will be made in the next hour as the crew of the Artemis II mission approaches the main event of their 10-day trip around the moon.
Four astronauts on board the Orion, NASA's Reid Wiseman, Victor Glover, Christina Koch, and Canadian Jeremy Hansen begin a lunar flyby shortly. And
they'll get a rare glimpse of the moon's far side.
ASHER: That's a crowning achievement for them as they travel farther from Earth than any other human has gone before.
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CHRISTINA KOCH, ASTRONAUT: We noticed we entered the Lunar Sphere of Influence about an hour ago. And sure enough, we are now falling to the
moon rather than rising away from Earth. It is an amazing milestone.
Also earlier, we had the Earth out, the crescent out, the side hatch and the moon out window three. And definitely by far, the moon is bigger than
the Earth.
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ASHER: CNN's Reid Binion has more on this unprecedented mission.
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CHARLES DUKE, FORMER ASTRONAUT: Hello Reid, Victor, Christina and Jeremy. This is Apollo 16 astronaut Charlie Duke.
REID BINION, CNN REPORTER (voice-over): The crew of the Artemis II moon mission, waking up on day five of their journey in the Orion capsule to a
greeting from one of their famous lunar flight predecessors.
DUKE: John Young and I landed on the moon in 1972 in the lunar module we named Orion. I'm glad to see a different kind of Orion helping return
humans to the moon.
BINION (voice-over): The Artemis II mission is now far closer to the moon than it is to Earth. The spacecraft has officially entered the Lunar Sphere
of Influence where the pull of the moon's gravity is stronger than Earth's gravity.
The crew will use that gravitational pull to slingshot Orion around the moon, setting the spacecraft on a course ultimately leading back to Earth.
But before that journey home, the crew will start their historic lunar fly by an observation on day six of the journey when Orion will make its
closest approach to the moon and reach its maximum distance from Earth.
This is what's going to guide the crew's observations during the flyby. And so what you see here is what the crew will be looking at for the entirety
of the flyby.
BINION (voice-over): The mission set to carry the crew deeper into space than any human has ever traveled before, capturing spectacular images of
the moon, including regions never seen directly by human eyes.
I'm Reid Binion reporting.
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ASHER: All right. Coming up, Savannah Guthrie makes her live television return. We'll hear what she have to say to viewers two months on from her
mother's disappearance. Stay with us for that.
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GOLODRYGA: Savannah Guthrie returned to co-hosting the "Today" show this morning. It was her first time fronting the NBC show since her mother,
Nancy, disappeared from her home in Arizona two months ago.
ASHER: Yes. Pairing alongside co-host Craig Melvin, Gruff -- Guthrie, rather, told viewers in her opening remarks that it was good to be home.
And as the show drew to a close, she thanked the public for their continued support as the investigation into her mother's whereabouts continues.
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SAVANNAH GUTHRIE, ANCHOR, THE TODAY SHOW: Pretty shot as the sun coming up. Good morning. Welcome to Today on this Monday morning. We are so glad you
started your week with us. And it is good to be home.
CRAIG MELVIN, NBC NEWS ANCHOR: Yes. It is good to have you back at home.
GUTHRIE: Well, here we go. Ready or not. Let's do the news.
MELVIN: Yes.
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ASHER: I want to bring in CNN correspondent Omar Jimenez for the latest on this from New York.
I mean, honestly, Omar, I -- I just don't know how she did it. I don't know how she did it. Just the fact that, you know, this is still an ongoing
crisis, right? And she had to carry all of the emotional weight, all of this restraint, she had sort of to hold back tears in that moment.
I can't even imagine how she would be able to concentrate on her job at a time like that. Of course, her thoughts must have been elsewhere the entire
time.
OMAR JIMENEZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes. And that clearly was the calculation coming into this. You know, when is it appropriate to come back to work?
When is she ready to come back to work?
I mean, remember, the last time her mother was seen was January 31st. And here we are in April. And we don't really have any credible leading
theories, I should say, from law enforcement on where a four-year-old Nancy Guthrie is.
And throughout all of this, this would be difficult, no matter what, dealing with -- with the disappearance and lots of questions, more
questions than answers, of a loved one.
And for this to happen in such a high profile way and in such a public way, remember, she also, throughout this, was putting out tearful videos,
pleading for answers alongside her family with a reward up to $1 million at this point. And that still has not yielded any significant leads, at least
ones that we know of publicly to this point.
You played how the show started. There, of course, were a lot of questions. How is the show going to start? Were they going to acknowledge sort of the
personal pain that is no doubt behind the very professional manner in which she carried out the show?
Didn't really happen at the beginning of the show. It -- it poked through a little in the next hour. And that was when she stepped out on the plaza, as
typically "Today's" show anchors do where they're greeted by fans. There were fans with signs.
I just want to play some of that moment where she acknowledged it a little bit.
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GUTHRIE: And these signs are so beautiful. You guys have been so beautiful. I've received so many letters, so much kindness to me and my whole family.
We feel it. And we feel your prayers. So thank you so much.
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JIMENEZ: You can see her holding hands with her co-host there. I think what's been clear throughout all of this, throughout all of the pain is
that the support that she's gotten from many in the community, but also those that she works with, has really pushed her through this.
But regardless of how professionally she handled the show and was able to get through at least the most of it without really a sign that anything was
different from a previous day, there is no doubt a lot of pain that they're dealing within that family, personally, even again, as she tries to push
through professionally here.
GOLODRYGA: Yes. You can't even overstate, though, the role that her faith has played with her for -- forever, for her professional career before this
tragedy. And with her family as a whole, her mother, was also very close to her faith at her church.
And it's clear that this has been sort of a guiding light for Savannah throughout this.
Omar Jimenez --
JIMENEZ: Yes. I mean -- yes. Go -- I was just going to say, she -- she put out a message on Easter, which, of course, was yesterday, through one of
the churches here in New York, just really processing some of this grief through her faith as well.
So, to your point, Bianna, this is just something that -- that really has just been top of mind, and has been for quite some time now.
ASHER: That's beyond -- beyond the traumatizing of the poor woman.
All right. Omar Jimenez, live for us. Thank you.
We'll be right back --
JIMENEZ: Of course.
ASHER: -- more after this break.
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GOLODRYGA: All right. Welcome back to "One World." I'm Bianna Golodryga.
ASHER: And I'm Zain Asher.
Iranian embassies around the world are posting critical and some tongue-in- cheek responses to warnings by the U.S. president.
GOLODRYGA: Yes. This after Donald Trump threatened Tehran with a profanity- laced message over the weekend warning it to open the Strait of Hormuz or else.
CNN's Paula Hancocks has more.
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PAULA HANCOCKS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Is Iran trolling Trump?
Now, some of its tongue-in-cheek responses from its embassies to President Trump's profanity-laced social media post might seem that way.
Iran's embassy in India posted on X, quote, swearing and throwing insults are how sore loser brats behave. Get a grip on yourself, old man.
The Iranian embassy in the U.K. quoted the common proverb, it is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it
and remove all doubt.
Iran's embassy in Zimbabwe listed examples of what presidential decorum should look like. The Iranian embassy in Bulgaria replying simply, take it
easy, Tiger, keep your cool.
Senior Iranian officials did respond with their own threats to Trump's ultimatum, saying that the Strait of Hormuz will remain closed until Iran
receives war reparations.
There is always a propaganda battle during any war, but this time, Iran has been matching President Trump's presence on social media, taunting him over
his recent post.
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GOLODRYGA: All right. Time now for The Exchange. Republican strategist Doug Heye joins us now from Washington, D.C. He's also a former communications
director for the Republican National Committee. Doug, it's good to see you.
So, as we're expecting to hear from the president in the next 30 minutes, we got sort of a preview of what he might be saying to reporters in the
last hour and something that was really interesting, which I think gave us a window into where this president is in terms of his views on how the war
ends was -- with regards to Iranian oil.
He said, I would take the oil if it were up to me. The people of our country wouldn't understand that though. They'd like to see us win and come
home. And this idea of taking the oil isn't new. It's something he's criticized previous administrations, Republican administrations as well,
for not seizing upon the war in Iraq, first and foremost.
So just tell us how you view this president's mental strategy here with regards to this war. And what do you make of these quite revealing
comments?
DOUG HEYE, REPUBLICAN STRATEGIST: Well, I think the term I'd use are mental acrobatics. Trump has -- has changed his position seemingly on this almost
every day. I was surprised that he did the press availability at the Easter Egg Roll, the annual event they have this morning.
Why getting in the way of what you're going to say in a more formal organized event later in the day, but we've seen not just goal posts
changing and shifting, but we've really seen definitions changing and what Donald Trump ultimately hopes to get changed.
And it's why I think voters have been overwhelmingly opposed to this because they're confused about what our actions are, what our goals are,
and how we define success.
And it's a real challenge then for Republican candidates who are on the ballot, who are struggling to talk about while wanting to back up Donald
Trump, personally, because they are fully invested in him, while wanting to do that, also dealing with the very real ramifications that voters are
feeling at home.
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Things were already too expensive as it was. Now, we've added higher gas prices to it as well, which then makes everything else more expensive. And
it seems to be a never-ending spiral. Trump knows he has to get out of this, but it's not clear yet how.
ASHER: I think what's really interesting is how the Iranians are fighting. Yes, they're fighting asymmetrically, but they're also fighting very, very
patiently. I mean, obviously, we just got word that they had -- they rejected the latest ceasefire proposal from the Americans. They've offered
a counter-proposal.
Despite their country being bombed, despite the fact that you have President Trump threatening to blow up power plants and bridges, they are
very patient. That's because they do have the upper hand economically when it comes to the Strait of Hormuz.
My worry is that when it came to Venezuela, that was sort of so easy for Trump, that he had sort of an inflated level of confidence going into Iran.
Based on that, what do you think is going to be the greatest takeaway for Trump? What do you think is going to be the greatest lesson that he would
have learned after this war is over in terms of Iran?
HEYE: Well, I hope that these things are not easy to do. And one of the things that you have to do is to tell voters exactly what your goals are,
what the objectives are, how you plan to accomplish them, and what victory means.
And so as he's defined this in different ways over different days, you know, we understand what bombing to the Stone Age means. We understand what
total annihilation means, but those aren't military objectives. And that's where I think voters have a lot of questions about where the president is
on this and -- and why this is all moved.
And again, affects them personally very quickly. Gas prices reacting in market forces very, very quickly. And so voters are seeing this and still
asking them -- themselves, what's the rationale here? What -- why now? And what is the plan for victory? And we just haven't seen that really defined
by the president.
And, you know, look, the military is capable of -- of very great things and that they had that success in Venezuela was not surprising. Obviously, the
rescue of the pilot was heroic and -- and amazing, but it doesn't mean that we get to do whatever we want to just because we think we can.
And as -- as we're learning now, these things can be quite difficult and have larger ramifications, not just back home, but certainly within the
region as well.
GOLODRYGA: Well, the military objectives, for the most part, have been rather successful. I mean, they've struck the -- the majority of their
targets thus far. They continue to do so. And there's no doubt that they have significantly hampered Iran's military strengths and their abilities
to target neighbors and allies, former allies, I guess, in terms of some of these GCC countries that they're now attacking, as well as Israel, and even
as we saw with U.S. bases, thousands of miles away.
In terms of what voters will be looking for from this president, Republicans in particular, those that even stood behind this president said
that they draw the line when military boots on the ground become a reality.
We have seen an increase in assets to the region, though not to the degree that would see a massive influx of U.S. troops.
To what number do you think would Republicans, in particular, find acceptable for any types of operations?
HEYE: I don't know that it's a specific number more than it is footage and video that they then see of our troops on the ground. And I say that
because there are a lot of Republican members of Congress who served in the military and who tend to be the most vocal ones about what we might call,
you know, international adventurism, who have very real concerns about this. They want to back Donald Trump.
I'm thinking about Congress in Scott Perry from Pennsylvania, for instance. He wants to back up Donald Trump. He has, you know, fairly tough election.
It's going to be a tough election year for Republicans as well. And now he's seeing gas prices rise and his own voters say, what are we doing? And
why are we doing this?
And it's not just a question about Republican voters, but I think about those voters who voted for Joe Biden in 2020 and then for Donald Trump in
2024. They might not be Trump fans per se, but they went back into his column in 2024 and he's at real risk of losing them, which then means the
House and potentially the Senate.
GOLODRYGA: All right. We'll be taking the president's comments live when they begin scheduled for about 20 minutes from now.
Doug Heye, thank you. Good to see you.
HEYE: Thank you.
ASHER: All right. Still to come, one of the U.K.'s biggest music festivals is losing sponsors. And it's all because of its headlined artist. We'll
reveal who after the break.
GOLODRYGA: And it's all about moon joy as the Artemis II astronauts get ready for a history making moon mission. We're live at the Johnson Space
Center, a little later this hour.
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GOLODRYGA: All right. Let's get a check on how the U.S. markets are doing right now as we're expecting to hear from the president in just a few
moments time. There you see green arrows across the board, the Dow about a quarter of a percentage point. Same for the S&P 500. And NASDAQ, up a
little under half a percentage point. This is your business breakout.
ASHER: All right. President Trump warns Iran will face severe military reaction if it does not reopen the Strait of Hormuz by Tuesday. On Sunday,
the U.S. president postponed the deadline, again, for Iran to lift its effective blockade of the vital passageway, threatening the U.S. --
threatening the U.S. will target Tehran's power plant and other key infrastructure as well.
GOLODRYGA: JPMorgan CEO Jamie Dimon warns that Iran war -- that the Iran war could bring a skunk to the party, saying the U.S. economy could see
another recession. But that didn't stop Dimon from boasting about the U.S. economy, saying it's on sturdier ground now than in years past.
ASHER: And finally, it was a super weekend at the box office for Mario and Luigi. "The Super Mario Galaxy Movie" pulled in about $372 million
worldwide in its theater debut, despite mixed reviews from critics. The animated sequel raked in $131 million in North America alone over the
Easter weekend.
GOLODRYGA: Well, Pepsi has withdrawn its sponsorship from the U.K.'s Wireless Festival and protests over the announcement that Kanye West will
be headlining the three-day event. The rapper has faced backlash in recent years after making repeated anti-Semitic comments.
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ASHER: Drinks company, Diageo, which owns brands such as Guinness, Baileys and Smirnoff have also pulled their support for the festival set to take
place in July.
CNN's Anna Cooban has been following this story from London. I think one of the things that is making me scratch my head, honestly, and Bianna and I
were just talking about this during the commercial break, is how could the organizers have not known that Kanye West would be such a controversial
artist to headline the show that, of course, corporate sponsors would not want their names associated with him?
ANNA COOBAN, CNN BUSINESS AND ECONOMICS REPORTER: Well, I mean, I'm scratching my head, too. I mean, last year, we have to remember that he
released a song called Heil Hitler. He's also sold t-shirts bearing the swastika.
And so, I don't think it's any surprise that we're now seeing, you know, really big companies like Pepsi and Diageo walk away from this. But also
PayPal, Budweiser, these are other companies that are supporting the festival, they are also facing calls to -- to -- to step away.
Now, it needs to be said that Ye has attributed his behavior, his comments, to an episode, a manic episode. He's been diagnosed with bipolar disorder.
He apologized in the "Wall Street Journal" earlier this year.
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But for many people, that's just simply not good enough. The campaign against anti-Semitism in the U.K. has called for him to be barred entry to
the country, taking a leaf out of Australia's book that last year cancelled West's visa, basically saying that they didn't want to deliberately import
bigotry.
And this is also coming against the backdrop of rising anti-Semitism in the U.K. We have seen just last month, three ambulances were attacked in the
largest Jewish community in the U.K., Golders Green. This was an arson attack.
And so many people are looking at the decision by these organizers to invite Ye to this festival, to -- to -- to perform at all three days of
this, 150,000 people going, and -- and saying, you know, how could this decision have been made in the first place, Zain?
ASHER: Yes. I mean, that is the question that a lot of people are asking. It does not make any sense to me, whatsoever.
All right. Anna Cooban live for us there. Thank you so much.
GOLODRYGA: Well, a British-Chinese designer has pioneered a bold new direction in fine jewelry, transforming food waste into colorful,
sustainable gem quality materials.
ASHER: Yes. CNN's Leah Dolan went to Anabela Chan's London showroom to learn more about her philosophy and her innovative process.
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ANABELA CHAN, JEWELRY DESIGNER: These ones are tomatoes. I tried for a long time with oranges and lemons, but they were so pale that we can't actually
get the pigment to look visible enough. But whereas with pineapple that solved my problem.
LEAH DOLAN, CNN STYLE PRODUCER (voice-over): Fine jewelry once meant diamonds, rubies and gemstones formed after millions of years in the earth.
But recently, the industry has been disrupted by lab-grown alternatives.
Now, an innovative new process is going one step further by turning food waste into luxurious jewels. The stones in Anabela Chan's jewelry are made
by drying, simmering, boiling and grinding, overripe produce, creating a pure pigment powder.
CHAN: Distilling it is a matter of days to a week or two weeks and then bonding and stabilization and is done within a week as well.
So, it's a very short time frame compared to fossilized gemstone and mineral-based gemstone that take millions of years or billions of years in
nature and within a laboratory a matter of months.
DOLAN (voice-over): She's one of a number of jewelers redefining luxury by experimenting with sustainable materials like bioresin, recycled aluminum
and lab-grown gemstones.
CHAN: In the west, 40 percent of food available to us, perfectly good food, goes to landfill sites every year. That for me is staggering. So, I thought
to myself, what if we can create a gemstone using pigments from fruits and vegetables, infusing it into a bioresin similar to an amber to recreate
that sort of quite luscious ornamental stone that can then be casted or it can be cut facets and then polished just like a mined gemstone.
So, let me show you more from the collection. The center stone, it's a synthesized ruby made in a laboratory. And to get a ruby this size and
scale, from nature, would have been near sort of impossible and -- and so valuable.
It is a price point made possible by using innovative new materials. More people can access it and more people can enjoy wearing it on a daily basis.
People will always be drawn to beautiful things. What if we can start a whole new movement of creating, you know, precious things but with
something as humble as a ripened tomato or purple sweet potato essentially turning waste into hard luxury?
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ASHER: All right. It's certainly a big day in deep space. We are only about an hour away from seeing humans venture further into space than they ever
have been before.
The highly anticipated lunar flyby of the Artemis II mission will take four astronauts on a pioneering survey of the moon. The astronauts are already
experiencing what mission control calls moon joy.
GOLODRYGA: Randi joy -- Randi Kaye.
ASHER: Randi joy.
GOLODRYGA: Full of joy.
ASHER: We baptized you, darling.
GOLODRYGA: Yes. Joins us live from the Johnson -- J industry.
ASHER: I like that name.
GOLODRYGA: Yes. Rani joy from the Johnson Space Center in a city that brought me a lot of joy in my hometown of Houston, Texas.
Randi, the last time we spoke, it was interesting to hear you talk to those at mission control and ask if there was any trepidation about the 30 to 45
minutes where they lose complete contact with these astronauts.
And they were very cool and clear to you that this was not an area of concern for them. So, what are you hearing today?
RANDI KAYE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, it's the same story, actually, Bianna. They say that they're -- it's expected. They know they're going to lose
contact with them at some point during this flyby, that they're doing -- they say that they lose contact with the International Space Station pretty
often as well. So it's something that they're used to.
But that will happen about midway through this flyby. Just so you know, the schedule about 1:56 pm Eastern Time, the Artemis II crew is expected to
pass Apollo 13's distance record. And then at 2:45 P.M., that's when the window opens for the lunar flyby. These are all in eastern time.
And then at 6:45 P.M. or so, that is when they are expected to lose contact with mission control here in Houston, Texas. That's when the earth sets
behind the moon. So they'll lose contact for about 40 minutes. And then they'll regain contact when the earth rises again.
At 7:02, that'll be their closest approach to the moon, about 4,070 miles. And then at 7:07, this is the key moment, this will be their maximum
distance from earth, more than 252,000 miles away. And then short time after that at 9:20 P.M. Eastern Time, the lunar flyby will be concluded.
But this is going to be really exciting for the crew, but also, it's a lot of work. They are -- they are targeting about 35 lunar targets to study and
learn more about.
And here's what one of the lunar scientists here in Houston told us about that.
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JULIANE GROSS, ARTEMIS CAMPAIGN SAMPLE CURATION LEAD: It's a timeline that goes with them so they know where within that time frame where they are,
which is the next target to go in so they can look at those. They can orient themselves. We have little maps in there. So we are highlighting
directly where these the next features are, that they're going to observe so that they know where to go.
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KAYE: And one of the key features that they're looking for is what's called Oriental Basin. It's this multi-ringed basin. It kind of looks like --
looks like a bulls-eye. It is a stunning basin according to the lunar scientist.
So, they're going to be looking at the colors and the textures along the lunar surface, especially at that base.
And they're also looking for any new craters. They want to get their eyes on the South Pole. And they also are looking for any place where they can
land there in the future.
They're going to take about a thousand photos. We just don't know when we're actually going to see those photos, but hopefully real soon.
ASHER: And, Randi, we're actually looking at live pictures inside. I mean, this is just incredible, those four astronauts. And that lunar flyby is set
to begin in about two hours from now.
Just walk us through some of the risks involved in this mission overall, Randi.
KAYE: Well, overall, I mean, certainly there are risks. They said that -- that the capsule is in great condition from launch. So that's really good.
All the tiles are on the capsule. That's really important for reentry.
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But just in terms of some of the risks involved, they could have decompression in the cabin. They could -- the life support system could go
out, but they do have those suits. They're -- they're specially made so they can actually survive just by wearing their spacesuits for about six
days and 144 hours. They're within that window now so that is good news.
And then also, there's the risk of just being hit by space junk out there. But so far so good and hopefully the flyby will go well and splash down on
Friday will go well too.
GOLODRYGA: All right. Randi Joy Kaye at the Johnson Space Center. We've given you a new moniker, Randi. Hope you're OK with that. We'll be watching
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KAYE: I love it.
ASHER: She loves it. She loves it.
GOLODRYGA: We'll be watching history in the making. Thank you so much for all of your reporting.
That does it for "One World" today. I'm Bianna Golodryga.
ASHER: And I'm Zain Asher. Appreciate you watching. She'll be back right off the short break with "Amanpour." That's next.
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