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ZAIN ASHER, CNN ANCHOR: All right. The United Arab Emirates says that it's intercepted three missiles incoming from Iran.
BIANNA GOLODRYGA, CNN ANCHOR: The second hour of "One World" starts right now.
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ELENI GIOKOS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: How will Iran respond? And how will the U.S. respond? President Trump explicitly says that if Iran attempts to
target any vessel, they will respond with force.
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GOLODRYGA: The United States is saying one thing, Iran another. We'll have the latest on the war.
ASHER: Also ahead, it's rare, it can be deadly, and it's left dozens of cruise ship passengers stranded at sea. How the Hantavirus spreads and what
it's like on board that ship right now.
GOLODRYGA: And in a word audacious, how GameStop plans to buy an e-commerce giant that's four times its size.
And later.
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ASHER: It's the first Monday in May and everyone is, of course, talking about the Met Gala. CNN gets up close and personal with a House of Dior.
All right. Coming to you live from New York, I'm Zain Asher.
GOLODRYGA: And I'm Bianna Golodryga. You are watching the second hour of "One World."
The standoff between the U.S. and Iran, over one of the world's most critical waterways, is escalating it seems by the hour. And we're getting
conflicting messages about just what is happening.
In the last hour, Emirati officials say they have intercepted three missiles from Iran over the country's territorial waters. Missile alert
warnings went off across the UAE for the first time since the ceasefire between the U.S. and Iran on April 8th.
ASHER: Yes. Earlier, Iran says that it fired warning shots near U.S. Navy destroyers in the Strait of Hormuz. State media reported that two American
ships were hit.
The Pentagon quickly denied those claims and said that two American flag merchant vessels actually successfully passed through the strait today,
something that Tehran vehemently denies.
GOLODRYGA: It all comes after President Trump announced that U.S. forces will begin guiding ships through the Strait. Iran threatened retaliation if
that happens
Now, despite all of this, here is how U.S. Treasury Secretary described the situation.
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SCOTT BESSENT, U.S. TREASURY SECRETARY: They're reduced. Their navy is not a navy anymore. It's a band of pirates. They are trying to cut off
international freedom of navigation through the Strait of Hormuz. And the U.S. is opening that up.
This is a humanitarian effort. It's not only energy that's in there, it's fertilizer, it's food transport. It's LPG for the more than -- more than
the billion plus people in India used to cook.
So we are saying, the Iranians do not have control of the Strait. We have absolute control of the Strait.
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ASHER: CNN's Brian Todd joins us live now from Washington. I mean, really, this goes to show the sort of back and forth between the U.S and Iran just
really underscores that the narrative, the information war is almost as important as the actual war taking place between these two nations.
You've got the Iranians essentially saying that they've attacked U.S. vessels trying to pass through the Strait. CENTCOM is denying it. What more
do we know for sure?
BRIAN TODD, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Zain and Bianna, it's clearly been a very busy and active day around the Strait of Hormuz, despite the claims
and counterclaims regardless of which side you believe there has been a lot going on this Monday, just taking it from the top that the U.S. military
now saying, Central Command saying today that two U.S. flagged merchant vessels actually successfully transited through the Strait of Hormuz today.
It is not clear if they were directly escorted by U.S military vessels or not. But CENTCOM did post this on X, said quote, American forces are
actively assisting efforts to restore transit for commercial shipping, end quote.
Iran, I think as you mentioned there, has denied that this has ever happened, the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, the IRGC, claims that no
commercial vessels or oil tankers have transited the Strait in recent hours. The IRGC calls these statements by the U.S military, quote, baseless
and outright lies.
And as you all mentioned, this does come one day after President Trump vowed to basically guide commercial shipping vessels through the Strait of
Hormuz.
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In addition, the Iranian navy says today that it fired warning shots near U.S. navy destroyers around the Strait of Hormuz. The Iranian state
broadcaster, IRIB, says the Iranian navy detected destroyers near the Strait and issued warnings, including firing warning shots.
They give a little bit of detail as well. The Iranian Navy says, Iranian forces used cruise missiles, rockets and combat drones near the U.S.
vessels. That is flatly denied. All of it flatly denied by U.S. Central Command, saying basically none of this ever happened, that the claim is
false.
There is one other point of interest that we can tell you about today as far as, you know, what is going on in and around the Strait of Hormuz. A --
an explosion rocked a South Korean-linked merchant vessel. That is according to a spokesperson from the South Korean foreign ministry. The
ship was carrying 24 crew members. No casualties have been reported. The South Korean Foreign Ministry says, the cause of that explosion is not
immediately known.
Despite everything that you're hearing then today, the claims and the counterclaims from the U.S. military, from the Iranian military, just take
a look at that map that we have there of marine traffic.
What the bottom line is, is that in addition -- despite the fact that maybe a handful of vessels are getting through the Strait of Hormuz, it is still
closed.
You can see all those vessels lining up on either side of it, just waiting for the go-ahead, just see if they can get through. That has been the case
now for weeks. The Strait of Hormuz is closed. A handful of vessels getting through.
And, of course, it remains to be seen, Zain and Bianna, whether these planned escorts by U.S. -- by the U.S. military, according to President
Trump, are going to be effective, or are they just going to be basically a provocation? Could we see an escalation of military hostilities because of
these possible military escorts?
ASHER: All right. Brian Todd, live for us there. Thank you so much.
GOLODRYGA: Let's dig a little deeper and bring in retired U.S. Army General Wesley Clark, who served as former NATO Supreme Allied Commander. He joins
us now from Little Rock, Arkansas. General Clark, good to see you.
So, I know that you support for this U.S. effort to help escort those vessels in the Strait right now. I do want to get you, though, to respond
to the breaking news of the UAE saying that it has intercepted three missiles from Iran.
Iran had also reported at some point that it had seized control of the port of Fujairah. That -- that has not been confirmed. And we know there's a lot
of disinformation that Iran has been putting out since this morning, saying that it had struck a U.S. naval vessel. That was not the case and CENTCOM
denied that.
But how much of an escalation is this now with these new strikes against the UAE?
WESLEY CLARK, AS FORMER NATO SUPREME ALLIED COMMANDER: Well, certainly it is some escalation. We don't know, Bianna, whether there have been strikes
beyond the UAE. We haven't heard from the Saudis, the Kuwaitis, or -- or Qatar as to whether they've been struck. But it looks like this is the fog
of war. I mean, that we're getting minute by minute reports and updates.
I think it's -- I think the strategic look at this is the United States wants to push this to a resolution. We're not prepared to sit and wait day
after day after day while the global commerce has -- has stopped up inside the Strait.
At the same time, the Iranians are refurbishing their military and -- and refusing to really come to the table with serious negotiations.
So, their 14-point plan they recently -- they presented a -- it's a -- it's just a total non-starter, really. The president hasn't said that, but
pulling all U.S. troops out, promising that you'll never attack again, et cetera, before we ever talk about the nuclear, no way.
So, there's a lot going on right now. And we're just seeing the tip of the iceberg. So, I think it's important strategically to understand the United
States is not going to allow this to drag on. We are going to begin to guide these ships out.
If the Iranians don't resist, then they don't have control. If they do resist, then they expose their positions, and we go to the next step. We
will take out as best we can their firing positions, their support for blocking the strait. And we'll move toward a more forceful response to keep
-- get the Strait open.
So, I think that's the --
GOLODRYGA: I believe we have lost our signal with General Clark. Can you still hear us? General Clark?
CLARK: Yes.
GOLODRYGA: OK. OK. Your -- your video froze, but we can still hear you.
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CLARK: Oh, I'm so sorry. So --
GOLODRYGA: No, that's OK. Now you're back on.
CLARK: I can't see it. OK. So, I don't know if you -- if you heard everything I'm saying, but the -- the tactical situation is fog of war. So,
you don't know exactly what's happening when you can't be sure that any single report is accurate. Although I certainly would trust the CENTCOM
report more than what the Iranians say.
Then the strategic, though, is pretty clear. The United States is making a move. We're not going to stand by patiently and let this drag on forever.
So, we've decided to make the first move. We're going to put U.S. ships in there. We're going to see what the Iranian reaction is. We think if they
react with force, we can handle it. And -- and that's the strategy moving forward.
ASHER: General, I do want to ask you about what's happening with the UAE, because about an hour or so ago, I was in the middle of interviewing one of
our correspondents who's based in Dubai and literally in the middle of her live shot, in the middle of her speaking to me on air.
Her phone started issuing several very loud alerts. She was explaining to me that it was the second time today that that had happened. And,
obviously, it's the first time that we're seeing this since the start of the ceasefire, the first time since, I think, about early April, that those
in Dubai are being told to instantly go to shelter.
Obviously, thankfully, Dubai has excellent air defenses. But still, this is an important sort of signal by Iran. They sort of letting the world know
that they still have reach. They still mean business.
But just in terms of their strategy, just explain to us how much more leverage does this kind of action in the middle of already a very sort of
fragile and shaky ceasefire. How much leverage does this give them or might this give them, I assume that this is their hope at the negotiation table?
CLARK: Well, obviously, you're right, Zain, it isn't attempt by Iran to get leverage at the negotiating table. And so what they want is an indirect
approach. In other words, OK, we're not going to attack the U.S. Navy right now, but we're going to attack one of your friends, the Emirates in the
Gulf. And we're going to punish them.
Now, the Emirates say they've intercepted three missiles. If that was all, great. But they've been the heaviest targeted in this whole episode. More
missiles and drones against the Emirates than even against Israel. They're also the most accessible to the Iranian arsenal.
So, the fact is that this would be an asymmetric escalation. We would push our ships through the Gulf. They will try to punish us by attacking our
ally, but we're doing work to help the Emirates.
Also Ukraine is in there with some zone in, some drone interception capability to help the Emirates. So, I think on balance, Iran is in the
inferior position in this.
GOLODRYGA: All right. General Wesley Clark, thank you so much for the time. As always, we appreciate it.
Let's bring in Eleni Giokos who joins us now from Dubai. I believe you were speaking with Eleni --
ASHER: Yes.
GOLODRYGA: -- in the last hour when you were getting those alerts.
Eleni, it's something you haven't received there in the UAE over the last three weeks. All of that ended today with these new strikes.
Just tell us what the reaction is thus far internally, what the UAE government is saying.
GIOKOS: Yes. I mean, frankly, we've had four alerts in the span of three hours. We just, a short while ago, received the all-clear. And the Ministry
of Defense says that there were four cruise missiles that were launched from Iran that were detected towards various areas across the country.
Three were successfully engaged over the country's territorial waters while one fell in the sea.
And importantly, the Fujairah Media Office says that a fire has broken out at the Fujairah industrial oil zone. And we've actually seen targets there
before during the span of the war.
They say that a fire's break -- broken out. Three people were injured in that incident. And that's the latest that we have.
We're still trying to get more information in terms of any other incidents. But frankly, the UAE's air defenses were engaged. They had to deal with
missile attacks and threats as well as drones in the last three hours.
And as you say, we haven't had any of these alerts since the 8th of April. And I have to say it was very shocking. You know, my phone basically just
was inundated with so many messages.
The point is here that it was always a very fragile ceasefire. We didn't know where this was going. There was hope of some kind of diplomatic off-
ramp because the United States had been sort of sending the message that negotiations were somehow underway.
Iran perhaps messaging that as well. You know, we weren't really sure in terms of, you know, what was going to be in discussion first. Was it going
to be the Strait of Hormuz with the double blockade? You know, what was going to happen with the nuclear talks? But clearly, this changes the
calculus, Bianna, very much so in terms of where this goes forward.
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You were talking about some of the vessels that have been targeted as well. And importantly, the Abu Dhabi National Oil Company says one of its vessels
was targeted by two Iranian drones today. They called this an act of terrorism.
Some sources that I've spoken to say that this is a clear violation, a broken ceasefire scenario, and they're worried about what will happen next.
Is Israel and the United States going to retaliate? Are we going to see more of a military confrontation on land while we have been seeing this
maritime confrontation playing out over the last three weeks as Iran tries to assert control in the Strait of Hormuz?
And the United States is trying to squeeze out the Iranian economy by embarking on its blockade in the Gulf of Oman. Iran, frankly, putting out a
new map today showing exactly where Iran is trying to, you know, control the Straits.
It's very different from the state of play that we've known around the Iranian route that has been taken.
The UKMTO today says that the state of the Strait right now still remains critical. And frankly, we've seen so many vessels coming at an attack in
the last 24 hours.
GOLODRYGA: All right. Eleni Giokos, we will stay in touch with you. Please do stay safe. In the meantime, keep us posted if there any new developments
in the next hour. We appreciate it.
ASHER: We'll be right back with more after the short break.
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ASHER: All right. With only six months until the all-important U.S. midterm elections --
GOLODRYGA: A CNN poll of polls shows nearly two-thirds of Americans is approved of President Trump's performance, only 35 percent approved.
Meantime, a Washington Post/ABC/IPSOS poll shows only 34 percent of Americans are approved of his handling of the U.S. economy. That's down
seven points from February.
ASHER: Joining us live now is the one and only -- Harry, we've missed you, by the way.
GOLODRYGA: Joining us what? Live?
HARRY ENTEN, CNN CHIEF DATA ANALYST: I know. I know, you know.
ASHER: We missed you. Where have you been?
ENTEN: I'm a busy guy. You know, there's a lot of "Full House" --
ASHER: Come on.
ENTEN: -- theme songs to listen to. That's the situation. So, you know, I have to pray, Jesse Frederick my respect.
But look, this is -- this is a nutty time in American politics. And President Trump has almost always been underwater, but we're really
reaching new and unforeseen depths underwater.
Because, you know, you mentioned that "Washington Post" poll, right? And I just want to note it here. This is the lowest that Trump has ever been in
that poll. It's the lowest. You know, the former record was back in August of 2018. He was 24 points underwater. That is his disapproval, which 24
points higher than his approval rating.
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Now look at this. He's 25 points underwater. So, this is a situation in which Donald Trump is continuing to lose ground from where he was at the
beginning of his second term, but more than that, he is overtaking the record lows that he previously had.
And you go to yourself, well, what's -- what's shaken here? What is going on? Why is the president reaching new lows?
Well, it's because a group that -- one of the reasons why is a group that was been so supportive of him in the past is abandoning him. Specifically,
what I'm talking about is Republican-leaning independents. That is, independents who say that they lean Republican.
And look at where it was back in the 2024 election. He got 91 percent of this vote, 91 percent of this vote against Kamala Harris.
Look at his job approval rating now on an average of Pew Research Center and "Washington Post" polls. He's down to 53 percent. That is a drop, if I
do the math quickly here. And I'm hoping that my math from high school pays off for me.
That is a drop of 38 points in only like a year and a half versus this baseline. This is a big reason why President Trump is struggling so much.
But more than that, another key reason he's struggling, you know, you teased it at the top, you mentioned the economy. It's about prices. It's
about prices, my dear friends.
And if we dig a little bit deeper and we look at inflation, not just the economy, but digging on prices, digging on inflation, look at this. OK.
Americans on Trump and inflation, when you go back to October of 2024, just before Donald Trump was reelected, who was more trusted in inflation
according to ABC News/Ipsos? It was Trump by seven points.
Look at his net approval rating now on this issue. My goodness gracious, his net approval rating, 45 points underwater on the issue that got him a
second term in the White House. That is an over 50-point shift away from the President of the United States on the issue that Americans and voters
say over and over and over again is their top issue.
And when you're 45 points underwater on the issue, that's most important to Americans, no wonder my dear friends, you're reaching record lows.
Now my question for you two is, did in fact distance make the hearts grow fonder?
GOLODRYGA: From my mom --
ASHER: No.
GOLODRYGA: -- for sure, Harry. She just sent me a note. She was very excited to see you live on our air.
ENTEN: Oh. Oh, well, that's --
ASHER: I just made a very little comment, I was like, no, no.
ENTEN: Yes. Well, hi, mom.
ASHER: It doesn't.
ENTEN: Hi, mom. We're all here. Your daughter is absolutely lovely, smart as a whip.
GOLODRYGA: Zain is putting on a front, I can tell you.
ASHER: What about my mom? Do you want to just say hi to her?
ENTEN: Hi. Hi, Zain's mom. Hi. Hi. We all love you here. Zain is also amazing. Yes. Oh, well, you know what? That's -- I like both sides of the
Atlantic Ocean. OK.
GOLODRYGA: From Houston to London, you've got fans galore including Zain. She's just pretending not --
ASHER: Yes. You know I love you.
GOLODRYGA: -- to have been upset. We've missed you.
ENTEN: No, no. We're -- we're all one big, happy family here.
ASHER: We are.
GOLODRYGA: Harry, good to see you. Come back.
ENTEN: Nice to see you. I will.
GOLODRYGA: All right. Well, the tech world gave a collected huh on Sunday when GameStop announced that it was trying to buy eBay, a company that's
roughly four times its size.
ASHER: Yes. GameStop offered nearly $56 billion for the e-commerce giant. The CEO of GameStop believes the combined company would be what he called a
legit competitor to Amazon.
GOLODRYGA: CNN tech reporter Clare Duffy joins us now. Clare, were you among those who really questioned what was behind this move?
CLARE DUFFY, CNN TECH REPORTER: Yes. Zain, Bianna, I think lots of raised eyebrows here. I mean, look, these are two retailers that serve these sort
of targeted populations. So, you could say, OK, maybe there is some, you know, crossover potential here.
But then you look at the numbers. And as you said, eBay is about four times as large as GameStop. It's worth about $46 billion and GameStop is around
$11 billion. And so you have to sort of wonder, where does this $55.5 billion offer come from?
Now, GameStop has said this is going to be half cash, half stock. So all of the company's stock, presumably they've got a letter, a highly confident
letter from TD Securities saying that they are likely to get $20 billion in cash. They have about $9 billion in cash on their balance sheet. That
leaves about $10 billion, where it's not entirely clear where that money is coming from.
Now, CEO Ryan Cohen did suggest in kind of a confusing interview on CNBC this morning that the company could offer additional stock, potentially
diluting its existing shareholders' holdings in order to make this deal happen.
Because as you said, he really sees this as a potential way to compete with Amazon. He sees this as a way to use GameStop's existing brick and mortar
stores for intake and fulfillment and authentication for the goods that eBay is selling online. He said that eBay could be run more effectively.
And he would be the CEO of this combined company if indeed this transaction does happen.
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But I think a lot of unanswered questions still in terms of how this deal would actually happen. EBay's board did say that it is taking a look at
this offer, but that is all we know at this point. We'll certainly be watching closely as this moves forward.
GOLODRYGA: All right. Clare Duffy, thanks so much.
ASHER: All right. Still to come here on "One World," fears grow aboard a cruise ship after three people die in a suspected Hantavirus outbreak. How
health authorities are dealing with it?
Plus.
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GOLODRYGA: All right. Welcome back to "One World." I'm Bianna Golodryga.
ASHER: And I'm Zain Asher.
I want to update you on our breaking news out of the Middle East. United Arab Emirates says it has intercepted three missiles from Iran over its
territorial waters.
GOLODRYGA: Emirate authorities say that a fire has broken out at one of its oil facilities and three people have been injured. They are the first
Iranian missiles fired since the April 8th ceasefire between the U.S. and Iran. We'll have much more on this in the coming hours.
ASHER: All right. Three people have died and three others are sick following a suspected outbreak of Hantavirus on a cruise ship. The vessel
MV Hondius is now anchored in the waters off of Cape Verde, Africa, having begun its journey in Argentina. The company operating the ship says that
149 people remain on board.
GOLODRYGA: And local health authorities are not allowing anyone to disembark. One passenger is a travel blogger and released this on social
media.
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JAKE ROSMARIN, U.S. TRAVEL BLOGGER: I'm currently on board the MV Hondius. And what's happening right now is very real for all of us here. We're not
just a story. We're not just headlines. We're people, people with families, with lives, with people waiting for us at home.
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There's a lot of uncertainty and that's the hardest part. All we want right now is to feel safe, to have clarity, and to get home.
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GOLODRYGA: Quite emotional there from that passenger. Hantavirus refers to a strain of viruses spread by rodents. It is a rare disease typically
caused by exposure to infected rodents, urine, or feces. And while it can be very serious, health officials say it rarely moves from person to
person.
ASHER: Yes. Symptoms can include fever, fatigue, difficulty breathing, as well as headaches, chills, dizziness. There's no cure for the disease
except just the treatment of a symptom.
Time now for "The Exchange." Joining us live now is the chair of the Department of Medicine at Emory University School of Medicine, Dr. Carlos
del Rio.
Thank you so much for joining us, Dr. Rio. I mean, I can't even imagine, I can't begin to imagine what a nightmare this must be, to be trapped on a
cruise ship where a deadly virus has broken out.
And obviously, there's -- there's sort of no cure for it. It doesn't necessarily spread that easily, but still, you can't dock anywhere to
escape. And you can't really get treatment. I understand that doctors have been allowed on board, but the passengers aren't being allowed to disembark
in Cape Verde, for example.
Explain to us how this virus actually spreads. It comes from rodents, it comes from mice and rats. Human to human transmission is very difficult,
but explain how -- how it actually works.
CARLOS DEL RIO, CHAIRMAN, DEPARTMENT OF MEDICINE, EMORY UNIVERSITY SCHOOL OF MEDICINE: Well, thank you very much for having me.
First of all, let me extend my condolences to the people that have died. There have been three people have died. One of them is also critically ill.
There are a couple of others that are sick.
We don't know exactly how many of them are sick with Hantavirus, but the person in Johannesburg in the hospital British citizen is there and is
confirmed with Hantavirus. The others ones are just a suspect at this point in time.
Hantavirus infection is a fairly rare infection. It's -- it's a -- it's a virus and it's transmitted, as you said, by -- by rodents. It's -- it's
small mice, typically, for example, a deer mice or other mice.
And it's either the -- the urine or the aerosolized by the urine or rarely by the bite is mostly aerosolized urine.
And, you know, when you catch it, you can develop either at what's called a Hantavirus pulmonary syndrome in which you develop by pneumonia and a very
severe form of -- of pulmonary disease called ARDS or acute respiratory distress syndrome.
There's also a Hantavirus renal syndrome in which your kidney shut down and you develop renal failure. Hantavirus can make you very ill and you can end
up in the ICU. And as you said, there's no treatment for this infection.
Now, it's very rare. There are two things that are -- I'm very -- I'm not worried at this point in time, but I'm certainly very curious about it.
This is an infection that, as far as I can recall, has not been reported to occur in -- in cruise ships.
And you got to remember that in cruise ships, not frequently, we see -- we see mice and we see rats.
So, it's -- it's -- it's rare that we see this. It's very rare that it's transmitted human to human. In fact, it's probably the evidence that is not
transmitted human to human. It's very -- it's unlikely that these people, if they have Hantavirus, they got it on the ship, I would suspect more
likely maybe they went into an excursion together, they went into a cave, they went to an area where the -- the -- the aerosolized and then they got
sick.
And part of it is because the incubation period is pretty long. Now, this virus exists throughout the Americas and particularly, you know, in South
America exists in Argentina. And you've got to remember that the ship started in Argentina. So, maybe these people went to an excursion in land,
got infected before and then got on the ship.
So, there's a lot that needs to be investigated. And WHO is doing that investigation. So, there's a lot for us to learn about what's going on, how
it got transmitted and what's happening.
At this point in time, I would tell people not to panic. I feel bad for the passengers on board. But I'm sure with a proper infectious disease and
epidemiological investigation, we're going to figure this one out.
GOLODRYGA: Yes. WHO. officials, I would imagine, no doubt, are retracing those who were infected, their recent steps, perhaps as you note, one
theory is that they were on an excursion together as a group and then became infected, bringing that infection on board the ship.
But what is the clinical severity of these three deaths tell you about the particular strain we may be dealing with?
DEL RIO: Well, again, we haven't done the serological testing to find what other people are infected, right? I mean, when you've done outbreak
investigations in Hantavirus, sometimes you find people who are just mildly ill and sometimes find people that are severely ill.
So, I think we need to really do a good investigation to find out how many either mildly symptomatic or -- or asymptomatic individuals are.
And then, of course, you have individuals that have very severe disease. And some of the people that have very severe disease, in general, tend to
be older individuals. It can also be young people.
The -- the first outbreak of Hantavirus that we are aware of was because of an outbreak in Indian reservation. This virus is very common in the Four
Corners states.
But this -- this virus can cause very severe disease, primarily pulmonary syndrome, as I said, and also renal failure can put you in the ICU.
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And unfortunately, there's no specific antiviral therapy for this disease. The treatment is mostly symptomatic and supportive.
ASHER: Just in terms of what Cape Verde is doing, they're refusing to allow the passengers to disembark, which, of course, makes sense because you want
to keep your population as safe as possible, and, of course, I completely understand that.
However, it is a nightmare for the people who are trapped on board. You talk about the fact that it's spread through aerosolized urine from
rodents, so this is basically tiny, tiny, tiny droplets of urine from mice, from rats that might be in the air. As you point out, it could have been
after an excursion, not necessarily from the cruise ship. It doesn't spread from person to person that easily.
Given the fact that it is so rare, it is so difficult just in terms of how it spreads. Should there be a way for these passengers to be allowed to
disembark in Cape Verde under certain conditions?
What -- what's your -- are your thoughts on that?
DEL RIO: Well, again, I don't have all the data, but I agree with you. I think it will be not only important, but feasible, but also important to
have this passengers disembark.
If some of them are sick, it will be good to put them in hospitals and intensive care units that give them the support they need in order for them
not to die.
But also, I think it's the only way to know really the -- the extent of the outbreak. And if indeed it's happening inside the cruise ship, it will be
nice to get them out of the cruise ship. I certainly would not necessarily let them into the population. I would put them probably in an isolation
area. And I would do the serological testing and the other testing that is necessary in order to know if people are infected or not.
As I said, you may become infected or not develop symptoms until many weeks after infection. So knowing who may be infected is also very important. You
can be infected and not develop symptoms until eight weeks after infection.
ASHER: All right. Dr. Carlos del Rio, thank you. Thank you so much.
All right. Let's go back now to our breaking news. The first intercepts of Iranian missile since the ceasefire between the U.S. and Iran on April 8th.
The United Arab Emirates says that it has intercepted three missiles over its territorial waters.
Paula Hancocks joins us live now from Abu Dhabi. So, Paula, we've been speaking to Eleni Giokos, who is your colleague, of course, close by, about
an hour away in Dubai, essentially telling us that she's had about four, if I'm not mistaken, four phone -- phone alerts go off today, sort of telling
residents in Dubai to seek shelter immediately.
The threat, as I understand it, has been cleared. But this is the first time that there has been this state of sort of concern and alarm in Dubai,
in the UAE since early April, since about April 8th. If I -- if I'm not mistaken, just explain to us what the situation as the ground is, and also
just the level of concern and fear among ordinary residents in both Abu Dhabi and Dubai, Paula.
PAULA HANCOCKS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: So, Zain, this all started late afternoon, early evening with those initial emergency alerts. It's now 20
to 9:00 in the evening here in Abu Dhabi.
We've just had another safety alert. We did have three emergency alerts in really very quick succession, very little heard overhead though, but we
heard from the Ministry of Defense saying that the sounds you may hear are interceptions and the air defense is working in the country.
Now, as you mentioned there, we do know that there have been four cruise missiles detected, according to the Ministry of Defense, that three of them
were intercepted over the water. So, before they actually reached the land of the UAE and one fell into the sea.
Now, of course, it -- it comes at an interesting time because, of course, it comes as we have been reporting on diplomacy. We've been reporting on
the U.S. President Donald Trump talking about how they are having very positive discussions.
But clearly, we are seeing an escalation in the -- the hostilities that we are seeing here in the UAE. And as you say, this -- this hasn't happened
since that ceasefire was announced almost a month ago now. There was several missile and drone attacks in the hours after that ceasefire, as
there often is. But then it really has been very quiet as diplomacy was given a chance to work.
Now, we also know that according to state media, Reuters reporting that there have been two people injured in a residential building, in Oman that
has been targeted.
And we also know that in Fujairah, the oil facilities, the oil industry zone, which is on the -- the east coast of -- of the UAE. So, that is key
because it means that the tankers don't have to go through that Strait of Hormuz. That has been targeted as well, we understand.
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The three Indian nationals have been injured moderately. They have been taken to hospital, we understand from authorities there and that there is a
major fire that they are contending with at the moment.
So, certainly, what we are seeing here is what we have not been seeing for a number of weeks. I mean, I've just -- just been outside myself. And it is
as it was a month ago, there were very few people in my neighborhood that are out and about at this point, clearly, the fact that there were three
emergency alerts in such quick succession means that it is -- most people will be trying to -- to shelter in place at this point.
It is a -- it is a well tried and tested method of -- of -- of heading to shelter though. Certainly when we saw and heard the first emergency alert,
I was driving. And you could see people running in many directions to get into a building.
They know exactly what to do because they had so many weeks of being under such significant missile and drone attack from Iran.
It's worth reminding our viewers that the UAE was, by far, the -- the most heavily targeted when it came to all the Gulf nations even more so than
Israel, in fact, when it came to the sheer number of missiles and drones that were incoming.
So it is a, unfortunately, a sadly familiar feeling for many people here in the UAE. They know exactly what to do and many will be staying inside this
evening.
Zain.
GOLODRYGA: Yes. You mentioned Israel. Israel had been reported over the last few weeks that actually shared an Iron Dome battery with the UAE at
the UAE's request, given the onslaught of missiles and drones that Iran was launching towards the Emirates.
The Iranian foreign ministry putting out a statement saying the UAE -- or the UAE foreign ministry, put out a statement saying that Iranian attacks
mark a serious escalation and post direct threat to the country's security.
Paula, I know you'll be staying on top of this developing story for us. Thank you so much.
ASHER: OK. And we just got some breaking news from my producer who's saying that we just heard from the U.S. military. Camille (ph), Can you repeat
that?
The U.S. military is saying that they have blown up six small Iranian boats in the Strait of Hormuz. Obviously, the escalation is continuing.
This, of course, after the Iranians had come out and said that they'd attacked an American vessel. CENTCOM denied that, but the U.S. now saying
that they have blown up six Iranian vessels, small vessels right now in the Strait of Hormuz.
Obviously, this is going to lead to dramatic escalation or rise in oil prices because of the volatility.
GOLODRYGA: Yes. And we'll see if the president has any remarks in the immediate future in response to all of this.
All right. That does it for "One World" today. I'm Bianna Golodryga.
ASHER: I'm Zain Asher. Thank you so much for watching. "African Voices" is up next. You're watching CNN.
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