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Health Workers Scramble To Contain Ebola Outbreak In DRC And Uganda; U.S. Invokes Title 42 To Limit Entry From Ebola-Hit Region; Trump Drops Controversial $10B Lawsuit Against IRS; CNN Speaks With Volvo Amid Energy Crisis; AFRICOM: U.S. And Nigeria Conduct More Strikes Against ISIS; Jury Deliberating Elon Musk's Lawsuit Against OpenAI; Aired 12-1p ET

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ZAIN ASHER, CNN ANCHOR: All right. A scramble to contain an international effort to track the Ebola outbreak in the Democratic Republic of Congo and

Uganda is now underway.

BIANNA GOLODRYGA, CNN ANCHOR: The second hour of "One World" starts right now.

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LARRY MADOWO, CNN CORRESPONDENT: If the DRC does not deal with the Ebola outbreak, it will come to you wherever you are in the world, because

viruses don't have visas, viruses don't respect borders, they get around.

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GOLODRYGA: Officials are stepping up coordination as they warn of extremely concerning conditions. The rare strain that's driving the latest Ebola

outbreak.

ASHER: Also ahead, Donald Trump drops his $10 billion lawsuit against the U.S. tax service, IRS. What the signals about the administration's plans to

set up a fund to compensate Trump's own allies.

GOLODRYGA: Plus, more strikes against ISIS in Nigeria. So, what's next for the operation? We'll ask an advisor to the president of Nigeria.

Also coming up.

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SASKYA VANDOORNE, CNN PARIS BUREAU CHIEF: Ah, Paris. Millions of people flock here every year, for the culture, couture, cuisine. Perhaps you avoid

being a cliche.

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ASHER: Say (INAUDIBLE) to faux pas. Later this hour, do as the Parisians do. And Bianna's going to be practicing her French. Aren't you, darling?

GOLODRYGA: I was so glad that was your read.

ASHER: OK.

All right. Coming to you live from New York, I'm Zain Asher.

GOLODRYGA: And I'm Bianna Golodryga. You are watching the second hour of "One World."

And at this hour, an international effort is underway to contain the Ebola outbreak in the Democratic Republic of Congo and Uganda.

The United States has just announced that it is limiting in trade to people who have been in those countries over the past 21 days. But it only applies

to people who do not have a U.S. passport.

ASHER: Yes. Africa's Centers for Disease Control suspects that more than 100 deaths are linked to the virus. Health officials in the U.S. say there

are 336 suspected cases in the DRC alone.

GOLODRYGA: So far, the infections have been in the countries northeast and neighboring Uganda.

Only one death and two confirmed cases have been reported there. However, the WHO warns at the high positivity rate means that it could mean a larger

outbreak.

ASHER: As Anna Cooban reports, those in the region are no stranger to Ebola outbreaks.

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ANNA COOBAN, CNN BUSINESS AND ECONOMICS REPORTER (voice-over): Ituri Province in the Democratic Republic of Congo. A remote region filled with

mining communities bordering South Sudan and Uganda, and the epicenter of a new Ebola outbreak.

The World Health Organization declares the outbreak a public health emergency of international concern, and warned of its potential to spread.

There are already cases of Ebola in Bunia, Ituri's capital and its surrounding areas. And that's put the residents on edge.

JEAN MARC ASIMWE, BUNIA RESIDENT (through translator): Everyday, people are dying. And this has been happening for about a week. In a single day, we

bury two, three or even more people.

COOBAN (voice-over): The current outbreak already has more recorded deaths than a previous outbreak in the DRC last year. And it's caused by the rare

Bundibugyo variant of the virus, which has no approved treatments or vaccines. Health authorities are ramping up screening measures and contact

tracing.

And so far, there are no plans to close borders. This is the 17th outbreak of Ebola in the DRC. And some residents say they want quick action to

contain it.

ADELINE AWEKONIMUNGU, BUNIA RESIDENT (through translator): My hope is that the government takes this new Ebola outbreak seriously, and takes

responsibility for the hospitals, so the outbreak can be brought under control.

COOBAN (voice-over): And though most of the outbreak appears to be centered in the DRC, there are confirmed cases in neighboring Uganda. WHO says the

infected people had recently traveled from the DRC.

At a hospital in Kampala where one of the patients died, temperatures are being checked and hand sanitizer distributed.

But some people in Kampala say they know how deadly this virus can be and worry it's already here.

FRANCIS ANGUZU, KAMPALA RESIDENT: It's not a simple disease. It's a deadly disease as well. So I should say, me as a -- as a Ugandan, I'm really

frightened. I'm worried. I'm scared.

COOBAN (voice-over): Although both the DRC and Uganda have battled several outbreaks of Ebola over the years, this is only the third time the

Bundibugyo variant has been detected.

And even if a vaccine or therapeutics can be fast-tracked for this strain, they'll likely be manufactured outside of Africa. As such shots have

historically been slow to make it there, which means containment is key to getting this outbreak under control.

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Anna Cooban, CNN, London.

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ASHER: All right. Meg -- Meg Tirrell joins us live now with a look at what the CDC here in the U.S. is doing to contain the outbreak.

Just walk us through what the CDC is doing just in terms of screening and travel restrictions as well, Meg.

MEG TIRRELL, CNN MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, they did just put out an announcement that they're going to be invoking this Title 42 Public Health

Act, which essentially allows them to restrict travel into the United States because of public health concerns.

And so they say effective immediately and for the next 30 days, they're going to enhance public health screening and travel or monitoring for folks

arriving from areas affected by Ebola outbreaks.

And they will have entry restrictions on non-U.S. passport holders, if they've been in Uganda, the Democratic Republic of Congo or South Sudan in

the previous 21 days.

Now, that's on top of efforts that the CDC has already talked about, including in-country efforts where they've already had offices there in DRC

as well as Uganda, where they're trying to help with containment of the outbreak, as well as lab work and things like that on the ground.

They are also helping with the bringing back of what they say is a small number of Americans who are directly affected in outbreak areas, but we

don't have a lot of information about how many or where they might be going.

Now, this is the current status as we know it right now, but the numbers are growing quickly. More than 100 deaths reported, mostly in DRC and the

Ituri province in the northeastern part of the country. Also two cases in Uganda, including one death. Those are thought to be from travelers from

DRC.

Now, the World Health Organization, over the weekend, declared this a public health emergency of international concern. And that's not something

it does lightly. It's only done that about nine times in the past.

And what that really means is that this is an extraordinary event with international implications. It doesn't mean global implications

necessarily, but that it requires international coordination to try to address it.

And so because of course we've already seen this spread to at least one other country, they're watching that very closely there.

As for the United States right now, the CDC says that the risk to Americans remains low, but they are watching this closely. And the State Department

has put into effect travel advisories, recommending that folks don't travel to DRC or Uganda right now. Guys.

ASHER: All right. Meg Tirrell, live for us. Thank you so much.

GOLODRYGA: Heather Kerr is joining us now. She is the DRC country director for the International Rescue Committee. Heather joins us from Kigali,

Rwanda. Heather, welcome to the program.

So the WHO has declared a global emergency. Heather, can you hear me?

HEATHER KERR, COUNTRY DIRECTOR, DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF CONGO, IRC: I can hear you. Yes.

GOLODRYGA: OK, great. There we see you now.

So, the WHO has declared a global emergency here. The U.S. seems right now at the moment more focused on relocating its own exposed citizens.

Something that struck me was what former USAID official Dr. Atul Gawande suggesting. And that is that this outbreak likely went undetected for

weeks, specifically because American agencies on the ground were scaled back.

Do you share those concerns? Were there weeks here that you think this virus was not detected?

KERR: Yes. I mean, I think it was out there in the community for probably the last four or five weeks. And one of the reasons that it wasn't detected

is this is a new strain of Ebola that we don't see very often.

So, people test for Ebola's idea normally and not this particular strain. So that was one of the reasons. But I mean, the health system in DRC has

suffered from years of lack of investment and especially surveillance.

And the fact that, you know, a funding was dropped. I'm sure that's affected the surveillance system across DRC, including critical

surveillance for systems that are essential for detecting diseases such as Ebola.

So, also because of lack of funding, there hasn't been the PPE equipment that health staff need. So, obviously, they're reluctant to treat patients

without any PPP -- PPE, if they have -- if they think they have Ebola.

So, it's been years of under investment, but also exacerbated by the recent -- the recent funding cuts, I would say.

ASHER: Heather, talk to us about the Bundibugyo strain of Ebola and -- and just how different it is compared to others. And also, just the fact that

you have these two confirmed cases in Uganda, but they apparently have no link to each other. What we do know is that they both traveled from the

DRC.

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I mean, what does that tell you about the rate at which this virus is spreading?

KERR: No, it's spreading at an alarming rate. And I'm sure really out in the community in Mongbwalu, which is this mining town, which is the center

of the outbreak. I'm -- I'm sure there are so many cases around there that have gone undetected.

I mean, being a mining town makes it really difficult. People are very mobile. They're very promiscuous. So, it's easy -- makes it much easier to

spread -- to spread Ebola.

And the fact that we've got a -- a new strain of Ebola shouldn't mean that people working in the health centers don't detect symptoms of Ebola.

There's -- I mean, been lots of training in the past, but I think that just hasn't been recently and made obviously health workers change and

everything.

But it's deeply worrying because it's been -- it's been there for quite -- quite a while. And people move in DRC. It's very mobile population, so

people happily travel from one province to another and there's a lot of trading across borders. It can be across the Uganda border.

Lots of goods come across the border from Rwanda, for instance, every day in Tacoma because there's now one case in -- in Goma, which came from

Ituri. But, yes, it's just the mobility of this population.

We saw it in the last outbreak, but it's very hard to stop people moving. That's how -- that's how they live their lives and how they make a

livelihood.

GOLODRYGA: So given that, what is the likelihood of containment at this point? If you couple what we heard from Atul Gawande that perhaps this has

been now percolating for weeks before it became officially detected and the vast mobility that you've just explained to us. What does that do in terms

of containment likelihood?

KERR: Well, what we've got to do is get out there, all of us, with supporting the government with a response as soon as we can. I mean, one of

the very important things in a -- in Ebola outbreak is to get out in the community and explain to them what's going on, explain the symptoms of

Ebola, you know, try to stop them thinking it's something completely different and should really say to them they must present at a health

center.

So, that whole communication, behavior change, part of an Ebola response is vital at -- at this moment, as is PPE for staff working in health centers

and indeed for our own staff, who we obviously still have other programs in these -- in these provinces, but if we are to adapt them and continue them,

then we have to have the proper equipment for our staff.

So, this is what we are concentrating on IRC at the moment is our PPE response. So, we've hopefully, the goods, the PPE will be arriving soon

from Kinshasa and will also acquire some in Bunia and it will be mainly for the government health officials, but also for our own staff, because we've

been told this is the most urgent thing at the moment, because people can't treat patients if they don't have any PPE.

GOLODRYGA: Yes, understandably. So Heather Kerr, thank you so much for taking the time. Thank you so much for everything that you and your staff

are doing there.

KERR: Thank you so much for this opportunity. Thank you.

ASHER: All right. Donald Trump is dropping his $10 billion lawsuit against the Internal Revenue Service. And moments ago, the Justice Department just

announced it was creating a nearly $1.8 billion fund for allies that they say were targets of the previous administration.

GOLODRYGA: This is an unprecedented move that could allow the president's administration to pay his supporters from a government agency he controls

with taxpayer money.

For more on the controversy, let's bring in Paula Reid live from Washington. Paula, just talk about how unprecedented this is. And give us a

sense of this $1.8 billion fund that the president, that the administration has now announced.

PAULA REID, CNN CHIEF LEGAL AFFAIRS CORRESPONDENT: That's right. So this fund is being established as part of an agreement between the president's

personal lawyers and lawyers inside his own administration as part of an effort to drop that IRS lawsuit.

But I will note that the judge overseeing that IRS lawsuit that the president, his older sons filed, had already expressed a lot of skepticism

about the merit of that effort.

But here in the announcement of this fund, Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche, of course, one of President Trump's former personal defense

attorneys, lays out that there will be a process that if you believe you were entitled to part of this $1.776 billion, you can apply for relief.

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Now, they say there is no partisan requirement to file a claim, but they say this is, especially for people who were targeted in the previous

criminal investigations related to President Trump. They say that any money left in this fund will revert back to the government when it comes to

precedent, which you asked about.

They cite a fund called Keep Seagull (ph). This is something that was established under the Obama administration. They claim that this is

similar, but if you look at the facts, it's not clear how similar these are.

This was a $760 million fund to address claims of racism related to the Department of Agriculture. So this is a much smaller fund that could

arguably cover a much larger group of people.

Now, it is clear, the president and his attorneys, including the acting attorney general, truly believe that the president was unfairly targeted by

both his own Justice Department and the Biden justice department. This is something the president talks a lot about.

But what is not clear at all is whether taxpayers are going to be OK with the idea of creating this nearly $2 billion fund to enrich his allies who

may be unhappy with the fact that they were caught up in these investigations.

This is a decision that could create political liability for the president. We know the Democrats have already seized on this. They have filed in court

questioning the merits of that original suit. And we can absolutely expect subsequent litigation connected to the establishment of this fund.

GOLODRYGA: All right. Paula Reid, thank you so much for breaking that down for us.

ASHER: All right. Iran says it has responded to U.S. criticism of its previous proposal aimed at ending the war, while also warning that it's,

quote, fully prepared for any eventuality.

GOLODRYGA: It comes one day after the U.S. president threatened re- escalation if Iran does not make a deal soon.

The source tells CNN that Trump is set to meet with his national security team early this week, perhaps as soon as tomorrow as he weighs his next

steps.

On Sunday, one of Trump's top allies in Congress called on the president to renew U.S. attacks following stalled negotiations.

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SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM (R-SC): Weaken them further, and you may get a deal later, but you're not going to get a deal with this crowd until you hurt

them more.

KRISTEN WELKER, HOST, NBC'S "MEET THE PRESS": So, you're saying it sounds like you do support more military action at this point. Do you think that's

something that will happen? Do you think it could happen in days, weeks, months?

GRAHAM: I think -- I think the status quo is hurting us all. The longer the Strait is closed, the more we try to pursue a deal that never happens, the

stronger Iran gives.

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ASHER: On average, Americans are now paying more than $4.50 per gallon for gas. It's an increase, by the way, of around 50 percent since the Iran wall

started. It's got many drivers questioning if they should switch over to electric vehicles.

GOLODRYGA: Yes. A short time ago, CNN's Vanessa Yurkevich spoke with the CEO of Volvo about what the surge in gas prices means for the future of the

E.V. market.

ASHER: And Vanessa joins us live now from New York. Vanessa, what did he say?

VANESSA YURKEVICH, CNN BUSINESS AND POLITICS CORRESPONDENT: Yes. So, Zain, the CEO of Volvo is in town today promoting a new vehicle, all electric

vehicle, that's going to start around $58,000.

And he's here to say that this is a good opportunity to buy electric, given these higher gas prices for everyday Americans, more than $4.50 a gallon

up, 50 percent in the last two and a half months.

This is coming at a time, though, where the consumer is changing their interest on electric vehicles here in the United States.

The Trump administration did away with the $7,500 E.V. tax credit. Environmental standards have actually been lowered, so automakers don't

have to meet those higher standards that were initially in place.

And a lot of U.S. automakers and Ford automakers have really taken hits because of their investment in electric vehicles, the tune of billions of

dollars. You're talking about GM, Ford, Stellantis, and Honda, anywhere from $7 billion to $30 billion.

But the CEO of Volvo, Hakan Samuelsson, telling me that he still believes that electric vehicles are the future, and especially right now, as

consumers are paying higher prices at the pump. Listen to a little bit of our conversation.

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HAKAN SAMUELSSON, PRESIDENT AND CEO, VOLVO: I mean, the price of gas will always be very volatile. Now, it's up. And I think it's a really good

reminder of you can have a car, which is less costly to drive if you charge it.

And I think, especially in America, where a lot of people have their cars in their garage overnight. So I mean, in that respect, I think it's a

really ideal market for an -- for an electric car.

YURKEVICH: Do you see this strain on American consumers continuing with the high gas prices?

SAMUELSSON: Probably.

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YURKEVICH: We also talked a lot about Chinese automakers. Chinese automakers have making -- been making a lot of inroads in Asia and Europe,

but they're yet to come here to the United States.

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Volvo's holding company is actually a Chinese automaker called Geely. And they have a partnership together.

What -- what Samuelsson told me was that he often believes that Chinese automakers are criticized for kind of using what other automakers have done

and copying it, but he believes that actually the Chinese automakers are really good at learning things from others, and then putting that into

practice really quickly.

And he believes that the auto community, as a whole, can actually learn from these Chinese automakers. He said that he would be open to actually

getting parts from Geely to use in Volvo cars, something they're not doing yet, but would ultimately make the price of Volvo cars cheaper to produce

and thus -- and thus cheaper for the everyday consumer.

He also talked about what it would mean if the Chinese automakers did come to the United States. He did point out that there is legislation here in

the U.S. trying to ban just that.

But what he said was interesting. He said that if this did happen, it would, quote, be unpleasant for car makers, but it would be beneficial for

consumers here in the United States because the Chinese are making electric vehicles, but they're making them much more cheaply, and they are, actually

according to analysts, quite good.

So Chinese automakers not in the U.S. now, many believe that it's going to happen, but he's saying that it would actually spur a lot of competition,

but ultimately be good for the U.S. consumer, especially considering Americans are dealing with those high gas prices right now.

ASHER: That's really interesting.

Vanessa Yurkevich, live for us. Thank you so much.

GOLODRYGA: All right. Still to come for us, different realities. North Korea and athletes stand out as they arrive in South Korea in a rare visit

to compete, carefully following protocols. We'll bring you details, ahead.

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ASHER: The U.S. and Nigeria say they have carried out additional strikes against ISIS militants in Nigeria. The U.S.-Africa Command say the strikes

happened Sunday in Northeastern Nigeria. And that no U.S. when Nigerian forces were harmed.

GOLODRYGA: The operation came roughly 48 hours after Donald Trump announced the two countries had killed a senior ISIS commander in the same area.

ASHER: This isn't the first time that President Trump has ordered strikes on ISIS militants in Nigeria. The last time was in December. President

Trump has repeatedly accused some of these militants of persecuting Christians.

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Time now for the exchange. We want to bring in Daniel Bwala. He's the official spokesperson and special advisor to President Tinubu of Nigeria.

Daniel, thank you so much for being with us.

So, U.S. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth said, that U.S. forces had for months hunted this top ISIS leader, the head of ISWAP in Nigeria, who is

killing Christians and we killed him. This is the words of the U.S. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth.

We killed him and his entire posse. The motivation for the Americans is this idea that a Christian genocide is still taking place. They continue to

peddle that idea, that that is why they are so invested in targeting these militants in Nigeria.

Have we lost Daniel? OK. Looks as though we've lost Daniel. Hopefully we can bring Daniel Bwala.

Oh, can you hear me, Daniel?

DANIEL BWALA, OFFICIAL SPOKESPERSON AND SPECIAL ADVISER TO NIGERIA'S PRESIDENT: yes. I'm here. I'm here.

ASHER: So, what do you make of that? This idea --

BWALA: Yes, I can hear you.

ASHER: -- that -- that is still the motivation for the Americans here. Obviously, that is something that President Tinubu and his entire

administration continues to deny.

BWALA: Yes. You know, we have what we call in law, fact and issue, and fact relevant to the fact and issue.

The fact and issue is that we both have a joint interest in this counterterrorism war, and we have been able to move and deepen that

relationship in the area of security and intelligence sharing initiative.

Since last year when this relationship was established, we have grown deeper and stronger and have had -- so far, we've had like three, you know,

joint oppression, which have successfully eliminated some of these terrorists and their associate. And that is the fact and issue.

The fact relevant to the fact and issue are matters that might be -- that we might differ in our own perspective. The American government and

President Donald Trump continues to insist that there is a persecution of Christian.

On the outside, we know that, yes, Christians are being killed, but Christians are not the only target. Muslims are targeted, people without

faith are also targeted because these terrorists do not look at this as element.

Now, we don't have a problem with America insistent or continue to say that because the most important thing, like I said, is the fact and issue, which

is that both of us have interest in this fight and eliminated the terrorists.

And if you have seen as a national, in the last few months, close to about a year, the gathering of terrorists around the Sahel area, it has now been

considered as the epicenter. And in part of Ghana, the reputation as the 51, I think, percent of the global terrorism related death.

So, it's a serious issue, and it's in our border. So, the cooperation we have with the U.S. is welcomed and will continue to appreciate like our

president appreciated the government of the United States for this engagement.

Probably, in the coming days, you will see more and more of this operation. It will be frequent for sure.

GOLODRYGA: Daniel, you've noted that these particular terrorists who were killed had been under surveillance by your government for months now for a

long time. Yet, President Trump says that he was the one who directly ordered the complex mission. Who drove the intelligence and the timing of

this strike?

BWALA: I can't -- what I can tell you, because this intelligence and information sharing is based on thy need to know.

But what I can tell you is that we have a deepen cooperation between the U.S. and Nigeria. And, of course, you know that when it comes to

intelligence sharing, the foundation for intelligence will be what we call the locus (PH). We have the incident, it's taking place. So, yes, the

incident is purported to have taken place. And so the Nigerian government has been helpful in this regard.

The Americas have military hardwares that we do not have. And part of our conversation with the U.S. is that that can be very helpful in our joint

effort to deal with these terrorism.

We have gone beyond that to even talk about also Nigeria has been trained to have the capacity to also handle this hardwares, as well as access to

buying some of this.

So, the joy is that we are cooperating together. And if Donald Trump chooses to be the first to announce it is not a problem, like I always

said, the fact and issue is the most important thing that we are focused on.

ASHER: It's one thing, Daniel, for the Nigerian government and the Americans to work together to conduct these sort of targeted strikes

against ISIS militants and I swap militants.

But there is a broader security issue for Nigerians overall. And part of it, part of it, is religiously motivated. Some of it comes from communal

and ethnic tensions. Some of it comes from disputes between farmers and herders, et cetera, et cetera.

As you point out, the terrorists don't necessarily discriminate and focus solely on Christians, but Nigeria, as you and I both know, does have a

wider security issue. Just explain to us how that is being addressed.

BWALA: As a part of -- yes. So our president, since when this is security situation increased, because if you recall in 2023, when he came on board,

we had diminished to a large extent the operations of this element. And then the conversation at the time was the economy. And we're able to

redirect the economy.

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And then what we have noticed, you can see over time, you can do the fact check yourself. Any time you come to the eve of election in Nigeria, you

see that in 2014, you see that in 2022. And then you see that now, there is this increased security situation often driven by what we call the crisis

economy.

And you are broadly measuring things like the kidnapping for ransom or the criminal element also take part in it.

But on our own part, the president has increased the capacity by his executive order for the military to recruit more (INAUDIBLE) join them for

our intelligent platforms also, recruit more personnel. In fact, they are sending them to forests where these elements come in and they go.

Within the society, of course, we have intensified the efforts of the local police and people who have talked to the responsibility for intelligence

sharing.

And every day in Nigeria, we keep arresting some of these elements. But, of course, we must know, this is a population of 230 million and over. This is

a country that is bordered in Sahel. We have shared -- we have shared border with lots of countries where these terrorists roam free. So, we

understand that as a challenge, but we are -- we are relentless and are not sleeping.

This president has been consistently making the effort that is required to deal with that.

Over the last one year, he has been in most countries of the world, the greater part of his engagement with these countries, wherever he travels,

is about deepening security cooperation so we can increase our -- our capacity to deal with that.

ASHER: All right. Daniel Bwala, thank you so much for helping us navigate this story. And I'm not sure if you can see us, but hopefully you can hear

us, Daniel. Thank you.

GOLODRYGA: All right. Coming up for us, Elon Musk's lawsuit against OpenAI's Sam Altman is now in the jury's hands. We'll have the latest and

what it could mean for the company's future.

Plus.

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GOLODRYGA: All right. Welcome back to "One World." I'm Bianna Golodryga.

ASHER: And I'm Zain Asher.

After weeks of verbal mudslinging and some really deeply personal revelations about the world's richest man, jury deliberations are underway

in Elon Musk's lawsuit against ChatGPT maker, OpenAI and its CEO Sam Altman.

GOLODRYGA: Musk accuses them of, quote, stealing a charity by shifting away from its original mission as a non-profit.

The Tesla boss who helped found the company wants the judge to order OpenAI to once again become a non-profit. Altman says Musk is trying to harm a

competitor to his own A.I. business.

Hadas Gold joins us now live with more.

So, Hadas, you have the world's richest man bringing this lawsuit. Obviously, these other A.I. tech leader, Sam Altman and Brockman as well

for at least a few hours each day, were just like everyone else, citizens having to walk into a courtroom.

Give us a sense of what the judge is expecting and the instructions the judge gave these jurors as they begin deliberation.

HADAS GOLD, CNN A.I. CORRESPONDENT: Yes. So, the jury has been deliberating for just about an hour now. Nine Californians will be giving this advisory

verdict to the judge.

What that means is that the judge will still be the ultimate one to decide whether Elon Musk is right or not, but she did say she will likely follow

the jury's ruling.

They have to decide whether Elon Musk was right, whether they agree with him and his accusations that OpenAI and its leaders, as you mentioned,

stole a charity he helped fund and co-founded OpenAI.

And he is saying these are the charges specifically that they breached a charitable trust and that they unjustly enriched themselves when OpenAI

transitioned from its original non-profit status to its current structure. It has a for-profit entity. It's still overseen by a non-profit foundation

board.

But obviously, its for-profit portion is very big. It's one of the most valuable tech companies now in the world.

In their defense, OpenAI has said that Musk himself wanted a for-profit structure, recognizing they needed to raise a lot of money to be able to

fund the expensive development of an -- of A.I.

They say that he's just bringing this -- this case years later because he wanted to control OpenAI, that he wasn't able to do so. And now he's trying

to harm a competitor because he developed his own A.I. company, xAI.

One of the first things that the judge has instructed the jury to consider in this case is actually the statute of limitations. Whether Elon Musk just

waited too long to bring this case, because if they found that he was past the statute of limitations, all of his other arguments are essentially

moot. They don't have to consider anything else.

So, this could end up being a very sort of short deliberation and a short verdict where they just say statute of limitations, it's past that. We

don't even have to think about anything else. That was the first thing that they have to consider.

But while they are deliberating, the judges actually continuing on essentially with this trial. This is the remedies phase. She is hearing

arguments for if Elon Musk were to win, what do OpenAI and its leaders owe Elon Musk?

Elon Musk has asked for some pretty severe remedies. These include reverting OpenAI back to its non-profit structure, consider that OpenAI

wants to have an initial public offering later this year. That would obviously scramble those plans. He wants Sam Altman and OpenAI president

Greg Brockman to lose their jobs. And he says that more than $130 billion need to be paid back into OpenAI's nonprofit.

Now, Elon Musk could win this case on a verdict, but his remedies might be much different. The judge may decide you're right, they were unjustly

enriched and they breach a charitable trust, but she could decide very different remedies from what Elon Musk wants.

In that case, both sides might sort of win in that case because Elon Musk would win with his claims, but the remedies might be so light that they

don't really affect OpenAI's future.

But we don't know when the jury is going to come back with their verdict. And it's important to note that even when they come back with their

verdict, that doesn't mean that the judge will also immediately give her verdict as well. She might take some time to consider what they said and

then give her ultimate ruling as well. Guys.

GOLODRYGA: This has been a must-see case --

ASHER: Must-see.

GOLODRYGA: -- that has drawn so many people from Bay Area there now to -- to watch this live if they had the chance. It'll be fascinating how this

ends up.

Hadas Gold, thank you so much.

ASHER: All right. For the first time in more than seven years, South Korea is hosting North Korean athletes. The women's football team from Pyongyang

arrived Sunday to compete in the Asian club cup and they moved quickly through the airport avoiding journalists and demonstrators.

GOLODRYGA: Now, the team's visit doesn't come at a time of particularly warm inter-Korean ties. North Korean leader Kim Jong Un has cemented the

division of the Korean Peninsula in the past month, revising the reclusive nation's constitution to define each country as distinct territories while

removing a clause related to reunification.

ASHER: All right. International travel can sometimes leave you feeling like a fish out of water, trying to figure out the best way to sightsee and not

completely look out of place.

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GOLODRYGA: CNN Paris bureau chief Saskya Vandoorne shows us how to navigate Paris like a local.

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VANDOORNE: Ah, Paris. Millions of people flock here every year for the culture, couture, cuisine.

But how do you avoid being a cliche?

In a city that's seven and a half times smaller than New York, trust me, it's easy to spot a tourist.

There are a few simple ways to navigate Paris, like a local. I'll be your guide.

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A classic faux pas, asking for alternative milk with your coffee.

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Short and black. That's the traditional way.

Craving a baguette. What you really want to order it (INAUDIBLE) is --

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Those in the know will avoid travelling by car. Paris traffic, it's notorious and it's chaotic.

Use a Velib, the city's public bike sharing service. They're pretty much everywhere and cyclists are plentiful.

The city's metros are often super congested. And in the summer, unbearably hot. So try walking instead.

In Paris, it's easy to get distracted, but beware of pickpockets. Don't keep your phone in your back pocket, do keep an eye on your belongings.

A lot of young people live in the east. That's the cool hipster area, great for a glass of wine on a terrace or some nightlife.

The French capital Skyline is a familiar sight, and the Eiffel Tower might be its most famous icon.

Try one of its many rooftops instead. That way, you're only a stone throw away from some of these other stunning landmarks.

Sante.

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GOLODRYGA: We don't need a travel agent the next time we go to Paris, right?

ASHER: Well, great little -- maybe. I used to live in Paris once upon a time, and maybe miss it very much. Thank you, Saskya for that, if you can

hear us.

GOLODRYGA: All right. Well, that does it for "One World" today. I'm Bianna Golodryga.

ASHER: I'm Zain Asher. Appreciate you watching. She'll be back in 15 minutes from now with "Amanpour." African Voices is up next.

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