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Lebanese President Joseph Aoun Speaks To CNN; Senior Military Adviser To Iran's Supreme Leader Speaks To CNN; Putin: I Don't See Reasons To Meet Ukrainian President Zelenskyy; CNN Reports From Hospital At The Epicenter Of The Outbreak; More Women Are Leaning Towards Entrepreneurship; Mexico City Makes Final Preparations To Welcome Fans; Inside Diane Keaton's Quirky Style; Aired 12-1p ET
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ZAIN ASHER, CNN ANCHOR: The president of Lebanon is putting Israel on notice.
BIANNA GOLODRYGA, CNN ANCHOR: The second hour of "One World" starts right now.
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JOSEPH AOUN, LEBANESE PRESIDENT: Aren't you fed up with war since 1948? We are ready. We are willing. We are committed. Are you?
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GOLODRYGA: He doesn't usually do interviews but he's sitting down exclusively with CNN.
President Joseph Aoun's message for Israel, Hezbollah and Iran.
ASHER: Plus, is there actually a chance that Putin and Zelenskyy could ever sit down face to face? The Russian president is responding to Zelenskyy's
invitation.
Also ahead.
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NANCY HIGGINBOTHAM, MOTHER OF MISSING STUDENT: There are so many possibilities that we have thought through because as a -- you know, as a
parent, you don't want to think the worst.
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GOLODRYGA: Today marks seven days since a young American tourist disappeared on the streets of Kyoto. His family says they aren't leaving
until they find him.
ASHER: All right. Coming to you live from New York, I'm Zain Asher.
GOLODRYGA: And I'm Bianna Golodryga. You're watching the second hour of "One World."
And we do begin with the CNN exclusive. A rare interview with the president of Lebanon. Joseph Aoun is accusing Iran of using his country as a
bargaining chip in its conflict with the U.S. and Israel.
ASHER: Talking to our colleague, Christiane Amanpour in Beirut, he also says that Lebanese people are, quote, fed up with the war between Israel
and Iran-backed Hezbollah. And he offered this message to the Israeli government.
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AOUN: Aren't you fed up with war since 1948? Do you want really to live in peace? Let's sit and talk.
For the Israeli government, it's the time for the -- for the power of reason to prevail over the reason of power. Military activities or military
solution will never provide you with security and safety to the northern people.
We are ready to sit and talk. Our people along the border are fed up with Wars. But you need to show some willingness and commitment to end this war
for the sake of both people and on both sides of the border.
We are ready. We are willing. We are committed. Are you?
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GOLODRYGA: Now this comes as a new ceasefire in Lebanon is fraying, after four more people reported killed, that's despite a conditional truce
between the Lebanese government and Israel. It is important to note Hezbollah has rejected the ceasefire.
ASHER: Yes. Lebanon's president also had a sharp warning for the militant group as well. Here's Christiane's interview.
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CHRISTIANE AMANPOUR, CNN ANCHOR: I'm standing here on the balcony of the presidential palace in Beirut. Over my shoulder is the suburb of Dahieh. It
has been a target of the Israelis for the last several weeks and it is destroyed in parts, but also up to 800,000 people, maybe more, have
evacuated. It is a ghost town.
It's symbolic of what's happening in many parts of this country during this fighting and during this war. We can hear Israeli drones overhead. I've
just had an exclusive global exclusive interview with the president, Joseph Aoun.
And he has said very, very clearly that Israel needs to abide by a ceasefire. He's also said very clearly that Iran needs to stop empowering
Hezbollah. He rejected a recent statement by the IRGC in Iran that says it doesn't accept the ceasefire.
He told them in no uncertain terms that this is not their country. This is what he told me about it.
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AOUN: IRGC is an Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps that they don't agree with -- they don't approve this agreement, the -- what's happened? It's not
your country. It's our country. It's our obligation. It's not your job to interfere into our country.
I reject the statement totally because our people being killed. Our people being -- our house is being destroyed. They are using Lebanon as a chip,
bargaining chip in their negotiation with the United States.
It's unacceptable. And here also, Hezbollah must understand that -- Hezbollah must understand that no other way but to sit and talk. No other
way to solve this problem and to save what's left except through negotiation and diplomacy.
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AMANPOUR: President Aoun has been a military commander for eight years. He's been head of the army here and he's had a four-decade long army
experience. He's been in combat. He still carries the shrapnel in his body of having been wounded. He is sworn as president to uphold and protect the
territorial integrity of this country.
And for a man who's been to war, he really means it. He's a very charismatic communicator. He knows that his power is limited. Not only is
his mostly a ceremonial position, he can authorize and engage in negotiations, but he doesn't have as much executive authority because of
the different ways the sectarian factions are aligned in this government. It's not a presidential system in other words. But he said he's going to
use every -- every power that he has to make this war end.
And he says that it really takes two to tango. Israel has to stop, has to move back, and Hezbollah has to stop. Both sides need to live in peace. The
war needs to end. And then he says there might be another further negotiation towards eventually normalization of relations.
But the first step is an end to this war. And he says he's working on it as hard as he possibly can under very, very difficult circumstances and
realities.
The key to note is that the majority of the Lebanese people, including the Shiites, who, of course, Hezbollah claims to represent, they want an end to
this. They want the sovereign state to be in charge, not a non-state actor.
Christiane Amanpour, CNN in Beirut.
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GOLODRYGA: In the first part of Christiane's exclusive interview with Lebanese president, Aoun, airs on "Amanpour" at 1:00 P.M. Eastern time
today. That is in the next hour. And be sure to look out for their full conversation airing on Monday.
ASHER: Right now to another CNN exclusive, this time out of Iran, CNN's Fred Pleitgen sat down with Mohsen Rezaee, the senior military advisor to
Iran's new supreme leader.
GOLODRYGA: Supreme Leader who has not been seen or heard from since his appointment, is known to have a small circle of trusted aides around him.
General Rezaee is in that circle.
CNN operates in Iran only with permission of the government, but maintains full editorial control of its report. Here's that interview filmed by CNN
photojournalist Claudia Otto.
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FREDERIK PLEITGEN, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: You are the military advisor of the supreme leader. How is the supreme leader doing? Is
he fully in control of everything?
And President Trump said that he would be honored to meet the Supreme Leader.
MOHSEN REZAEE, SENIOR MILITARY ADVISER TO IRAN'S SUPREME LEADER (through translator): This will not happen. Right now, we are in the first stage of
negotiations. And Mr. Trump has brought the negotiations to a standstill. This will not happen.
PLEITGEN: Are the negotiations right now blocked? Or do you think that a memorandum of understanding can be reached quickly?
REZAEE (through translator): In my opinion, the negotiations are at a deadlock. And Trump must break this deadlock.
PLEITGEN: They are waiting for an answer from Iran.
REZAEE (through translator): Iran has openly stated that our assets have been frozen, and you must release them. The Americans are not telling the
truth in this regard.
PLEITGEN: So the frozen assets are the big problem right now?
REZAEE (through translator): This is a sign of trust building. If Trump takes the negotiations seriously, $24 billion is not much to America.
If he wants to reach an agreement with Iran, this $24 billion is a test of trust that Iran wants to have with Trump. This is a test that America must
pass, and the path will be opened. This is our own money, not America's money.
PLEITGEN: Wouldn't a war be catastrophic for Iran as well, though, if it was a big bombing campaign?
REZAEE (through translator): If the war continues and the naval blockade is not lifted, we will drag the war to the Indian Ocean, the Baba-el-Mandeb
Strait, the Red Sea, and the Mediterranean. And we will give another dimension to the war by attacking these other American bases that we have
been attacking so far.
America will definitely suffer much more losses. America's losses will be very heavy.
PLEITGEN: Final question, what's your message to Donald Trump?
REZAEE (through translator): Mr. Trump must make decisions independently of Israel. He must give what is the rights of the Iranian people and stop the
blockade, release our frozen assets, and this can be a new horizon for the future of Iran and America.
Therefore, Trump must put aside his personal interests and think about the interests of the American people. If Trump has the courage, many issues
will be resolved in the future.
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ASHER: All right. Russian President Vladimir Putin says, he currently sees no reason to meet Ukraine's leader, that's according to Reuters.
GOLODRYGA: His response comes after Volodymyr Zelenskyy published an open letter on his website, calling for a face-to-face meeting to put an end to
the four-year war.
ASHER: Yes. This as both sides escalate attacks on each other. Ukraine released video showing drone attacks on ships in Russian-controlled
territory while Moscow founded -- pounded, rather, residential buildings in the capital Kyiv this week.
The U.S. president says, the two leaders have to make compromises.
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DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: They're going to make both make compromises. I suggested those compromises.
And, you know, we've had a lot to do with it. We'd love to see. They're two very good people. They're two very -- I mean, incredible countries,
beautiful countries. They've got to stop.
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ASHER: CNN's chief global affairs correspondent Matthew Chance joins us live now from London.
So, Matthew, just in terms of the timing of this letter from Zelensky to Vladimir Putin, it comes just a few days after we saw that massive
onslaught from Russia to Ukraine, essentially the largest offensive from Russia that Ukrainians have had to undergo in -- in many months.
And then on top of that, it comes at a time when the United States has distracted. Zelenskyy's talked about needing patriot systems. We know that
the air defenses are exhausted.
We also know that Vladimir Putin is hosting Russian -- Russia's version of Davos in St. Petersburg as well. So explain the timing of this letter.
MATTHEW CHANCE, CNN CHIEF GLOBAL AFFAIRS CORRESPONDENT: Yes. Well, obviously, it comes at a crucial moment. You're right. It's on the in the
aftermath of that ferocious assault by Russian forces against, you know, towns and cities across Ukraine, in which dozens of people were killed or
injured.
And then, of course, a couple of days ago with the start of the sort of centerpiece of Vladimir Putin's sort of economic year, the international
economic forum in St. Petersburg, SPIEF, as people were gathering their delegates from some 130 countries.
You know, we saw those black plumes of smoke hanging over the horizon as Ukrainian drones struck what the Russians said was infrastructure in the --
in the area. It was in the place where there was a -- a -- a dockyard and an oil refinery.
You can see some of the ships there on the -- on that nose cone video that you're playing right now.
So the timing is very important. It also comes as Russia is struggling to make the kind of advances on the battlefield that it perhaps was expecting.
And so it's a sort of, you know, really difficult moment for -- for Moscow. And I guess this is an attempt by President Zelenskyy, this open letter to
try and sort of force a negotiation, force some kind of, you know, opportunity for compromise between the two sides.
Vladimir Putin, though, and the Kremlin have at least publicly rejected that. The Kremlin said that if Zelenskyy wants to meet Putin, he can come
to Moscow. It's something they've said in the past and it's something that Ukrainian leader has ruled out.
And then in the course of the past few hours, Putin has called the letter rude and said that the real intention is him speaking at the -- at SPIEF in
St. Petersburg. The real intention is to make sure that no meetings take place at all.
And he said his message to the letter, his response to the letter, would be a message to Russian soldiers, keep on -- fighting on the frontlines, keep
work -- keep working, brothers. And so a very defiant response from Vladimir Putin, who is showing no sign that he is prepared to back down.
ASHER: All right. Matthew Chance, live for us there. Thank you so much.
GOLODRYGA: So let's take a deeper dive on Ukraine and other conflicts with veteran diplomat Christopher Hill. He is a five-time U.S. ambassador and a
former U.S. assistant secretary of state. Ambassador Hill, good to see you.
So in response to this letter that was penned by President Zelenskyy to Vladimir Putin made public on his website, you've described this as sort of
basketball trash talk with Zelenskyy telling Putin, listen, let's put an end to this. You're losing 30,000 troops a month.
Now we hear the response from Vladimir Putin. Is that the final say in your view? Because I know you were a bit optimistic that there may be some
openings in this letter buried as well.
CHRISTOPHER HILL, FIVE-TIME U.S. AMBASSADOR: Well, first of all, what's happened up till now with Putin's response calling a rude letter was
entirely predictable.
But what you have to remember about open letters is they're addressed to everybody except the actual recipient.
It's clearly a letter where I think Zelenskyy wanted to show the U.S. leadership that he's still there and fighting hard and fighting
successfully. And I think that's something that President Trump needs to hear.
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He's telling the Europeans that he's -- he's with them, that they're with him. And it's interesting that in the last few hours, there's been a
decision to have Zelenskyy meet with European leaders in London.
I think I believe it was set for Sunday. We're going to where he'll meet with Starmer and Merz and Macron.
So, I think there's a -- for Zelenskyy, this is to show people that, you know, these Ukrainians are tough as nails and they're not backing down
right now.
You know, I -- I think it's also important that in the last two -- two months, Ukraine has actually taken more territory than they've lost. So I -
- I think really at this point Putin does have to think about this.
But again, the letter is addressed to others and it's addressed to the Russian -- the Russian, I won't say opposition, but Russians other than
Putin who should understand that, you know, Putin is hardly invincible and you can speak to him the way Zelenskyy has, and he can't do anything about
you.
So I think it's a very hard-nosed effort. But if I were Putin, I'd read it carefully and maybe get someone to black out all the insults and see
whether there's something he can work with. I think some of the -- the issues, the sanctions may be of interest to him.
And, you know, I think Zelenskyy is also welcome some kind of American role and that's always been something Putin has talked about.
And finally, I think Putin understands that having a sort of a mano a mano thing with the Ukrainian leadership and obviously it's not going to be in
Moscow. I would be very worried about a life insurance policy going to Moscow at this time.
But I think Putin needs to understand that he's got to end this and things are not looking good for him.
ASHER: Yes. I mean you touched on so many important points. The fact -- yes, there were so many insults in this. I mean, he made fun of Putin's
age, the list went on.
So it was sort of difficult to tell whether he was actually serious about sort of designing a scenario where there could be some meeting or he just
wanted to humiliate Vladimir Putin.
But just in terms of who has the upper hand here, you talked about Ukraine taking back territory. But at the same time though their air defenses have
been exhausted, especially when you consider the sort of assault that we saw just a few days ago that Russia launched on Kyiv and Dnipro as well.
And just if Russia was actually able to sustain that, that would be very bad for the Ukrainians.
Just in terms of how Vladimir Putin needs to work to change the narrative within Russia. I mean, obviously, there is so much propaganda. You can't
really trust the polling.
But there is a growing sense of disquiet among ordinary Russians about the sort of toll that this war is taking on them as well. Not to mention the
fact that there have been so many people that Russians have lost on the battlefield here.
HILL: I think they were probably the prime people that he wanted to -- to reach because I don't think there's any good news going on in Russia about
this and the very famous, you know, bloggers on Telegram, the Russian major internet source, are very, very concerned about this.
But your point is well taken. I mean, there's a real critical shortage of PAC-3s of Patriot missiles. And clearly, the Ukrainians need those. And
even if we wanted to give them to -- to them, we don't have enough of them right now. So, there is a problem there in -- in Ukraine's ability to
defend itself.
But at the same time, I mean, these are two sides who are, you know, in a 15-round boxing match in a pretty tough shape on both sides. And so one
would hope that out of this, there would be some effort to say, OK, let's have some kind of discussion.
And as Zelenskyy said, you know, some of these mediated efforts, they take forever. They don't seem to really lead anything. So he said, let's --
let's talk.
And I think it's kind of a tough guy way of dealing with it. You know, maybe a little less trash talk might have been helpful on the other hand.
I love the line where Zelenskyy said, you even had to ask North Koreans for help. At no time in history as any Russian ask the North Korean for help.
I mean, he was really kind of letting him have it. But let's see if Putin is kind of with it and understands that he needs to start dealing with this
apart from pulverizing Ukrainian citizens, civilians, which is the only sort of thing that he's been able to do successfully.
GOLODRYGA: Well, I think President Zelenskyy would be the first to tell you that he is not, by nature, a diplomat. So, that probably speaks for some of
the language that he chose to use and include in this letter.
It is interesting, Ambassador, to see sort of a slight shift, even among Republicans now back to support for Ukraine. And I'm --
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HILL: Yes.
GOLODRYGA: -- particularly speaking about this -- this news that 18 House Republicans now justified the president and passed new Ukraine aid and
sanctions against Russia. Now, this will also have to go through the Senate, that that may be an uphill battle. And then the president, of
course, could veto it all.
But the -- the symbolism is notable. And I'm wondering what message that sends beyond just Washington, but to Kyiv and to European capitals as well.
HILL: You're absolutely right. And another intended recipient of this letter was the U.S. Congress. And for people who said that, oh, the
Ukrainians can't do it or can't handle it, you would call the infamous meeting in the Oval Office when President Trump said, you don't have the
cards.
There were a lot of Republicans who agreed with that. And here -- here he is alive and well. And I think that was significant. There was an $8
billion package, somewhat smaller than some of the other packages. It's also not a grant. It's a -- it's a loan, although, it's been known to
forgive loans in times of war.
And, you know, maybe something that interests Trump in a way that he was less interested some 15 months ago. But I think there are a lot of people
who are sort of waking up to the news that Ukraine is hanging in there.
And we should be helping them. We should absolutely be -- be helping them. A lot of people have understood that all along. Some people have not. And I
think this letter was intended to those people who had kind of lost -- lost faith.
GOLODRYGA: Yes. And it's become clear that there are ways beyond just natural resources and rare earth minerals that Ukraine can help the United
States and the West, especially from the very nimble drone technology that they've been really innovative on in this field throughout the war.
Ambassador Hill, thank you so much for the time. Great to see you.
ASHER: Thanks, Ambassador.
HILL: Thank you very much.
ASHER: Still to come here -- still to come here on "One World."
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CLARISSA WARD, CNN CHIEF INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: From up here, you really get a sense of the challenges in fighting this outbreak.
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ASHER: CNN visits the epicenter of the deadly Ebola outbreak in Central Africa. And what the WHO just announced to help fight the virus.
Stay with us.
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ASHER: All right. A massive search intensifies for an American student who went missing in Japan one week ago. His family says that 20-year-old James
Weston Higginbotham, is an experienced traveler, but he disappeared while needing some space during a family vacation and went off to explore Kyoto
on his own.
GOLODRYGA: CNN's Hanako Montgomery has been following this story.
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HANAKO MONTGOMERY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Deep in Japan's forests, a search is underway for Weston Higginbotham, a 20-year-old college student from
Alabama who vanished during a family vacation.
MONTGOMERY: So this is the type of trail that the Japanese police have been investigating to search for Weston. He's known as an avid hiker, so they
think that maybe he might have disappeared into the woods when he went missing on May 29th.
Police are relying on canine units to sniff out any trace of Weston. But the forest search ends for now with no answers. Just more anguish for a
family still waiting for news.
HIGGINBOTHAM: There are so many possibilities that we have thought through because as a -- you know, as a parent, you don't want to think the worse.
And, you know, you keep seeing these sightings here and there. It's like, well, maybe, you know, I don't know. I don't know.
MONTGOMERY (voice-over): The day Weston disappeared, the Higginbothams were vacationing in Kyoto, Japan, a major tourist destination and one of the
world's safest countries.
But after a small disagreement with his mom, they agreed to give each other some space. Nancy, his mother, tells me it's not unusual for Weston to
clear his head in nature.
HIGGINBOTHAM: A local resident.
MONTGOMERY (voice-over): But when he seemingly turned off his phone location, panic set in.
HIGGINBOTHAM: Well, it was scary because that's not Weston. I mean, we're just -- we don't do that in our family. Even when we're mad, we don't do
that in our family.
MONTGOMERY (voice-over): Since then, Nancy has posted daily appeals on social media, asking anyone with information to come forward.
HIGGINBOTHAM: He has a heart of gold and we all want him to come back safely.
MONTGOMERY (voice-over): Strangers have answered a call, sharing Weston's photo and distributing flyers to help find him.
MANAMI NAKAGAWA, VOLUNTEER (through text translation): The search ends when people stop looking. For as long as it takes, I'll keep doing everything I
can until he's found.
MONTGOMERY (voice-over): The police have told us that until they find Weston, they won't stop looking. And as the search continues, so does a
mother's hope.
Hanako Montgomery, CNN, Kyoto.
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GOLODRYGA: All right. Welcome back to "One World." I'm Bianna Golodryga.
ASHER: And I'm Zain Asher.
The director general of the World Health Organization announced a $518 million six-month plan to fight Ebola. Voicing optimism, but the outbreak
could be contained. He says the plan draws from previous outbreaks and emergencies.
GOLODRYGA: Meantime, Clarissa Ward traveled to the town at the epicenter of the outbreak in the Democratic Republic of Congo to see the challenges that
health officials are facing.
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WARD (voice-over): We are heading to Mongbwalu, a remote gold mining town deep in the lush forests of eastern Congo and the epicenter of this Ebola
crisis.
WARD: From up here, you really get a sense of the challenges in fighting this outbreak, the vastness of the terrain and the total lack of good
roads.
WARD (voice-over): The World Food Programme now operates a daily helicopter to deliver supplies to the beleaguered community.
On this day, they're bringing a much needed mobile testing lab. Days without results here have cost lives.
WARD: You can see they've sent security for us. That's because yesterday villagers were throwing rocks at a convoy of aid workers.
WARD (voice-over): We drive quickly through the town. Suspicion of aid organizations runs deep here with conspiracy theories swirling as the death
toll mounts.
We jump out of the car to talk to local journalist Gar Mumbesa.
WARD: So he's saying that there's a feeling among the community as well that aid workers who are coming here are actually coming here to profit
from this crisis, not to help.
WARD (voice-over): He spends his days trying to educate the community about the outbreak.
WARD: So he's saying that the reason he's frightened of this hospital is because everybody who goes in there sick, they don't leave, they come out
dead.
WARD (voice-over): Inside the hospital, a small team is holding the line. Logistics coordinator Nafel Dridi is preparing to disinfect another body.
NAOUFEL DRIDI, LOGISTICS COORDINATOR, DOCTORS WITHOUT BORDERS (through text translation): It's like you're in the frontlines where the bullets are
flying. But with Ebola, you can't see it.
WARD (voice-over): That invisible enemy is everywhere here.
Workers carry the first body to the morgue. A grim procession disinfecting the path as they go. A second follows closely behind.
A woman can be heard wailing from inside. My child, ,y child, she cries. I remember my child.
WARD: So he's explaining to me that the two bodies that we just saw being brought in, one of them was an 11-year-old child and the other one was an
eight-month-old baby. And you can hear, we've been hearing the wails of the family. It's just -- it's unimaginable.
WARD (voice-over): The bodies keep coming, six in total this day, each one a family destroyed.
The mayor of Mongbwalu is overwhelmed. His town has never seen anything like this.
WARD: Can we talk about when this all started? When did you first understand that there was something terribly wrong going on here?
SESEREKI MANDRO ISRAEL, MAYOR OF MONGBWALU, DRC (through text translation): The date was February 22nd when a body arrived from Bunia in a coffin.
WARD: The 22nd of February.
WARD (voice-over): That's more than 11 weeks before the outbreak was declared.
ISRAEL (through text translation): Two or three weeks later, people started to die here. The death in two weeks. There were 48 dead here in Mongbwalu.
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WARD (voice-over): The virus continued to spread, silently, invisibly, through this town and beyond. Healthcare workers are now playing catch-up
to contain the outbreak. And the people of Mongbwalu are still paying the price.
Clarissa Ward, CNN, Mongbwalu, Democratic Republic of Congo.
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ASHER: All right. Let's check and see how -- how about you do it? Go ahead.
GOLODRYGA: How the markets are doing. Oh, look, I get to see a red day. Down significantly, the Dow down 400 points down nearly one percent. The
S&P 500 down nearly two percent. NASDAQ down nearly three percent.
I think this has something to do with traders and investors worried that the Fed may have to raise rates, not cut rates after better than expected
jobs before.
OK. Let's get to your business breakout. Zain.
ASHER: Morgan Stanley is projecting that SpaceX future revenue could reach $3.4 trillion in 2014. That's according to the "Wall Street Journal." The
company is aiming to raise $75 billion next week in what is expected to be a record-breaking IPO.
GOLODRYGA: Anthropic's co-founder has warned about the risks of humans losing control over A.I. systems. Jack Clark says A.I. models are improving
so fast that they may soon be able to develop themselves without human involvement. He says developers must find a way of incorporating a break to
manage the risks.
ASHER: And the U.S. economy has surpassed expectations by adding, Bianna just mentioned, the 172,000 jobs in May. The data suggests the U.S. labor
market may be stabilizing after a year of weak growth. The economists warned, however, that a lengthy war with Iran could keep gas prices high
and cut into consumer spending.
GOLODRYGA: Well, as the U.S. adds more jobs, many women in the workplace are still facing an uphill climb. This has the corporate ladder has
historically been uneven for generations.
ASHER: Yes. Many women are now leaning towards a different path to power, entrepreneurship. According to Wells Fargo, women now own more than 40
percent of the businesses in the U.S.
And let's take a time out with our next guest, Vanessa Van Edwards. She's a behavioral researcher and author of "Conversation: How To Be Instantly
Likable In Any Interaction" and "Cues: Master the Secret Language of Charismatic Communication." Vanessa Van Edwards joins us live now.
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So I really do want to talk about women in the workplace, Vanessa, because as women who are sort of rising up the corporate ladder, we sort of get
these very mixed messages.
You know, if you are too warm as a woman, too sort of friendly, you're seen to sort of be not leadership material. I see you nodding your head.
VANESSA VAN EDWARDS, FOUNDER, SCIENCE OF PEOPLE: Yes.
ASHER: And at the same time, if you're too direct, you're not seen to be a team player. You know, you can be ambitious, but not too ambitious. Or at
least not publicly ambitious. So, what gives you, how do you navigate, whether you're an entrepreneur and you're leading a company, whether you're
rising up the corporate ladder, how do you navigate this mixed messages that a lot of women get sent?
VAN EDWARDS: We're operating this very narrow valley, right, where we have to be not, as you mentioned, too warm, not too competent. There's a myth,
though, that I think is very helpful here, which is that if a woman is competent, she couldn't possibly be warm. And that's a very common myth,
that if you're competent, you're cold.
The good news is, is what the research shows, that gap disappears if a woman shows very clear warmth. And warmth is not about toxic positivity or
fake smiling. Warmth is signaling, along with competence, I have a plan so you can rely on me, but also you can trust me.
So if we add back those warmth signals, it actually acts as sort of a -- a super power, that it leverages our competence as well as our warmth.
GOLODRYGA: One thing that a lot of people in the workforce and outside of the workforce really find us tasteful is a lack of authenticity. And you
note that the sort of view of approaching a job that you may not be that comfortable with, but I'm going to fake it till I make it. That -- that's a
slippery slope.
So just talk about walking into a job that perhaps you may not know all the skills needed at that moment, but are confident that you can learn them
quickly while at the same time, not wanting to give off an air of in authenticity.
VAN EDWARDS: I think there's kind of a -- a side door into competence and confidence, which is planning. And this works really well for introverts,
as well as if you have that sort of imposture where you don't feel like you hit the skills perfectly.
We often have this mistaken belief that we have to be perfect in every area of those skills. But actually, if we come in with a plan, specifically your
first five words, if we can nail our first impression, it actually makes the entire meeting, the negotiation, the pitch much easier.
So our first five words, having a plan for that, this is the most overlooked one, our very first question. Oftentimes, we give away, or we
come across as fake, if we're like, how are you? Or we have that sort of cheerful, isn't it beautiful outside?
What's actually better is coming with a plan for a very specific question, think about your first five words so that you can find windows into
competence with a plan.
If you have a blueprint for conversation, a blueprint for your first impression is going to be, it sets you up for a very easy meeting.
ASHER: I want to talk about A.I., because, you know, obviously, a lot of the conversation around A.I. is centered around -- it's coming from my job.
You know, how do I -- what do I need to do to have a plan B, et cetera, et cetera?
And it's a really sort of -- it's a really difficult position to be in because as a society, we're in this in between stage, we don't really know
what's on the horizon. It sort of feels as though, you know, in terms of trying to find other careers or other jobs, it's almost like trying to turn
around the Titanic when we have no idea where the iceberg is.
We don't know if the iceberg, we've already hit the iceberg. We don't know if the iceberg is still coming. We don't know if we have three months out
until we hit the iceberg.
And so, just that really sort of difficult situation that we as a society are trying to navigate. We know there is an iceberg, but we have no idea
when or where we're going to hit it.
So, just explain to us, how do we maintain our humanity? What is the sort of insurance policy that we as humans need to develop to prepare ourselves
in this age of A.I.?
VAN EDWARDS: So, we have to think of soft skills, our career insurance against A.I. And the way that I want you to think about it is that there
are micro social skills. Yes, we can think about being likable or charismatic, but what's going to differentiate humans at work, our
workplace communication is these micro skills, being a great storyteller, being able to calm down a difficult client, being able to speed read
someone, being able to psychologically interview someone so you can predict success.
I think that we have to begin to think about, what are the micro skills that make us human, that in the room, on video, in person, A.I. cannot
replicate. The more we can invest in those micro skills and actually tease out, what are the micro skills that could help me succeed in this job or
this role?
And also, thinking about our companies as roles by strength. If we have a hiring manager, we don't want them to accidentally hire their exact same
personality. Can they identify, what are the social strengths in this role, both internally and externally? And I think this is going to transform the
way we talk about soft skills at work.
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GOLODRYGA: And this is where we could really see an opening and an advantage for -- for women, because even coming into this conversation with
you, we talk about the increase in entrepreneurship among women, women coming out of college, women switching careers from the corporate world to
starting their own businesses.
If we do end up seeing A.I. turn into this massive game changer that so many are literally betting on and predicting.
Just give us a sense and tell our viewers the opportunities that could exist in particular for women to be their own bosses.
VAN EDWARDS: Women are incredibly good at task switching. So we are very good at having a -- a breadth, a -- a variety of skills that we're very
good at. And we are going to excel in this era.
Especially because when you think about how women operate, they can have very high EQ, very good emotional intelligence. They can have very good
social intelligence, so the ability to read faces, understand emotion.
But they also could have a deep understanding of how A.I. is flowing across an organization. So this could be conquering information silos. This could
be matching roles to strength. This could be an entrepreneurship, especially entrepreneurs are doing every role, right?
They're a little bit CEO, a little bit marketing. And this is where women thrive. We are very good at picking up skills in each area. And this kind
of brings us back to what we were talking about earlier, which is if we can have competence in a variety of area -- a variety of areas, it means that
we can have a plan for each of those areas.
We don't necessarily have to have a perfect knowledge of how a job is run. As an entrepreneur, we're going to need to know a little bit -- a little
bit about everything. I think that we're going to really thrive with A.I. as our co-pilot, A.I. as our, even our co-partner. And I think that's going
to help female entrepreneurs do more even faster.
ASHER: Yes. And -- and -- and you know what? We don't need to be afraid of it. Do you like my Titanic analogy?
GOLODRYGA: Throughout the day, throughout the morning. I know you said the first part out loud though.
ASHER: Hello. Do you remember that scene from Titanic where the lookout says, hello, what do you see? Iceberg, right ahead.
-- GOLODRYGA: This is, by the way, off camera, Zain has referenced Titanic
too. So we're really --
ASHER: A few times --
VAN EDWARDS: I love it.
ASHER: Inside joke between me and Bianna, Vanessa.
GOLODRYGA: It's a great film.
VAN EDWARDS: I love it.
ASHER: Hello, what do you see?
GOLODRYGA: It's Friday.
ASHER: Thank you. Thank you, Vanessa. Appreciate it.
We'll be right back with more.
GOLODRYGA: Bye.
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GOLODRYGA: Well, Mexico is heading into the World Cup with some momentum. The national team rallied from a goal down to beat Serbia, five-one, in its
final warm-up match before the tournament.
ASHER: Fans celebrated the victory in Toluca as hopes grow for a strong run on home soil.
All right. With just days to go until the tournament kicks off, host cities across North America are making final preparations.
GOLODRYGA: In Mexico City, that means heightened security, improved infrastructure, and even English lessons for local vendors expecting an
influx of international fans.
CNN's Valeria Leon reports.
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VALERIA LEON, CNN CORRESPONDENT: I'm just a few blocks away from the stadium in Mexico City. And this market called Mercado Huipulco is one of
the changes, transforming the area ahead of the tournament.
As we walk through it, we find more than 15 foot stands serving some of Mexico's most traditional dishes. She's preparing pancita, which is this
Mexican traditional dish. I'm going to try this dish. OK.
Some of the vendors here have been taking English classes to welcome the thousands of visitors ahead of the tournament.
Tere (ph) is one of them.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hello. Welcome to home.
LEON: Ola, Luis. How are you?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Fine. Good afternoon.
LEON: So you've been taking English lessons as well.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.
LEON: How's that going?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, we -- we -- we have vegetables. We have potato, onions, pepper, cucumbers, peppers.
LEON: OK. So, we're heading to the classroom right now, where they're going to have their English lesson this afternoon.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Good afternoon, teacher. May we come in?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Everybody, please. Repetition is the model of learning.
LEON: How important is teaching all these students?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It is very important to -- to deliver a great service and to improve the quality of the attention to the public.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: most probably, we're going to have everything for all the people come.
LEON: So, this is how vendors say they are ready to welcome the world, serving up Mexican flavors to football fans.
Valeria Leon, CNN, Mexico City.
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ASHER: All right. Actress Diane Keaton was known for iconic looks, both on and off screen. An upcoming auction at Bonhams in New York will showcase
some pieces.
GOLODRYGA: Yes. Including Ralph Lauren, Comme des Garcons. Can you help me? How do you say it?
ASHER: Comme des Garcons.
GOLODRYGA: Comme des Garcons. And a number of items from the Hollywood drop shops. You make me so much more fashionable. Literally.
Rachel Tashjian got a close-up look at what made the late Keaton style so legendary.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The style is so copied and yet, only associated with her.
RACHEL TASHJIAN, CNN SENIOR STYLE REPORTER (voice-over): What was the secret to Diane Keaton's unorthodox style? She created her own set of
rules, embracing tradition and flouting it at the same time.
An upcoming auction at Bonham's of Keaton's artwork, furnishings, and her extensive wardrobe, reveals the formula that made the late actress' style,
in life and on screen, so legendary.
DIANE KEATON, ACTRESS: Hi. Hi.
TASHJIAN (voice-over): Her single look in this scene of "Annie Hall" practically became a style movement.
KEATON: La di da, la di da, la la.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You meet Diane's style for the first time, and that's what she carried with her throughout her life.
This was a custom design. Everything always layered and then always with a thick belt, to pull in her waist. She said very important to always have a
waist.
TASHJIAN: Well, that's an interesting preference too when you love men's tailoring.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Right. It makes it very feminine.
There's always something to kind of create that balance of the very tight tailored menswear but also a little bit of the whimsy.
TASHJIAN: What makes this calm look particularly Diane?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You have the structure jacket again and then you have the big puffy skirt, which she would have worn this with multiple
petticoats, so that it was poking up very, very large.
TASHJIAN: It's like a camo --
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's almost like basketball jersey netting with like this like fur on it.
TASHJIAN: And what's the story with the leather gloves?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Always gloves. So many gloves in her closet. Sometimes she cut the fingers off. Sometimes she actually took tights and cut a hole
and then just wore them.
TASHJIAN: And where is the hat from?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It is from Hollywood toys and props.
TASHJIAN: So she was really like looking everywhere.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Everywhere.
TASHJIAN: For clothes.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She has everything from, you know, H&M to this. It's amazing.
TASHJIAN: This is the "Annie Hall" script.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Whether it be the acting part of her career or into the fashion or even into her home, it's all on her own terms.
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Inside of a lot of Diane's hats, we found these heel cushions for high- heeled shoes, but she used them to balance them on her head.
TASHJIAN: And then we see a little bit of --
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: A little bit of makeup.
TASHJIAN: Makeup.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They're all -- they're all well-worn.
TASHJIAN: Who would you imagine is interested in purchasing pieces from this sale?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Of course, you're gonna have your Diane Keaton fans, but you're going to have your fashion fans.
You know, we're going to go gaga over a lot of the different pieces of rare fashion.
TASHJIAN: Would you anticipate that the people who buy these pieces will wear them?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I think that because she was so approachable, the clothes are approachable. They're not scary. They're not bedazzled beaded
gowns or not something that, you know, you probably want to just stare at.
I think it will be a really cool experience to go out in public and say, this is Diane Keaton's coat.
All the clothing is being offered with no reserve. So, even if the estimate says two to 3,000, the starting bids are much lower than that.
TASHJIAN: Do you think this will go for more than two to 3,000?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I do.
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GOLODRYGA: I mean, I'm sure it would go for that much, but no one can wear it the way Diane Keaton did.
ASHER: Diane did. Oh.
GOLODRYGA: What a legend. She has missed.
All right. That does it for "One World" today. I'm Bianna Golodryga.
ASHER: And Zain Asher. Thank you so much for watching. "Amanpour" is up next.
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