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SpaceX Shares Now Trading On Stock Market; Iran Foreign Minister: Agreement "has Never Been Closer"; Grieving Family Searches For Answers After Baby Shot By IDF; Starmer Braces For By-Election Key To His Political Future; Pope Leo's Plane From Spain To Rome Grounded Due To Technical Problems; Dr. Steve Peters On Unlocking Success Under Pressure; Officials: Active Shooter Situation Is Over; Shooter Is Dead; Aired 12-1p ET

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ZAIN ASHER, CNN ANCHOR: All right. Coming to you live from New York, I'm Zain Asher. Bianna is off today. And this is "One World."

Breaking news right now, SpaceX shares have just started trading on the stock market. The company soared to a record-breaking initial public

offering on Wall Street.

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ASHER: SpaceX execs rang the bell from the NASDAQ's market fight in New York.

Meantime, CEO Elon Musk rang the bell from SpaceX's headquarters in Texas, the first dual opening in NASDAQ's history.

Here's where the markets stand right now. Let's take a look and see where all three indices are trading, if we have it. OK. The NASDAQ is actually

down about a third of one percent. The Dow and the S&P 500, both up.

The SpaceX IPO is set to raise $75 billion. And it has made Elon Musk the world's first trillionaire. SpaceX sets its initial share price at $135.

That put the company's value at almost $1.8 trillion.

Shelly Palmer is the CEO of The Palmer Group and professor of Advanced Media in Residence at Syracuse University's Newhouse School of Public

Communications. He joins us live now from New York.

So much hype over SpaceX. Just explain to us whether you think this company is going to live up to that hype. There's so much pressure just in terms of

making sure that investors from this moment onwards do not focus on this company's current losses, but really focus on its future profit-making

ability.

Give us your take, Shelly.

SHELLY PALMER, CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER, THE PALMER GROUP: Look, you know, the trillion dollar valuation is probably the headline But I think -- I

think the real story is that investors are trying to put a price tag on the future. And no one knows exactly what that future is worth. And that's --

that's the hard question.

You're not buying one company with SpaceX, you're buying three companies. And, you know, the -- the story that they're into, the space

transportation, they're already the leader, global telecommunications with Starlink. They're the leader.

Critical national security infrastructure for so many countries, including our own, potential A.I. infrastructure as a platform. And I guess you're

buying the founder, too. You're really buying Elon because he's got like something over 82 percent of the voting shares, so no board is going to be

able to override him in practice.

I mean, I guess they theoretically could, but practically they can't. So, you know, you got to look at that and say, well, we're going to get to the

future first. This is your investment in the future. Is it properly priced? That's up to the retail investors to decide.

ASHER: Yes. And it's such an important point that you made. You're buying several different companies, but this is a sort of vertically integrated

A.I. company, and that is why a lot of investors are bullish.

I mean, you do have some people who think it is overpriced, it's expensive, and there is hype out there, but a lot of people are bullish on that

factor.

And as you point out, they are investing in the founder himself in Elon Musk's vision. And because of their SpaceX's sort of interplanetary goals,

you can't really focus on sort of short-term financial success because you are investing and you're buying into the future as you point out.

So my question to you is, what does this moment mean for the sort of future wave of hopeful A.I. startups out there?

PALMER: Oh, I think this is going to put some guidelines and give us a roadmap into what Anthropic or OpenAI are likely to experience.

But and very importantly, this is also very much a bet on Elon, not just a bet on the future. And will retail investors invest in Sam and Dario the

same way? Maybe they will, maybe they won't.

But I -- I think we're getting an indication that the A.I. sector itself has got a roadway to the public markets.

Interestingly, they've run out of private capital. And that's a little bit interesting. There's so much money required that they need to go to the

public markets to get it.

No one should be discounting that insight because it's not unique to me. It's pretty obvious, they could have raised more private money. They would

have rained more private money. It's better for them because it's easier to run a company that's private than it is that's public.

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So go to the public markets. That's a big statement about where the capital needs to come from and how much money they actually need.

All the foundational model builders who are likely to go public in the next year or so are in the same capital constraint.

ASHER: And just in terms of sort of ordinary investors who -- who want to get in on this space boom that we're seeing, who want to invest in it but

aren't really sure if this is the right way.

What are some other alternatives out there for them?

PALMER: So if you're investing in the future, that's a pretty easy thing to do. Investing in the future is picking your suppliers into that market and

making sure that you're well diversified across.

I'm -- I'm not giving investment advice. You should see your licensed professional financial investor for that.

ASHER: Yes, of course.

PALMER: But -- but in -- but in general, what this is, honestly, is an investment against telecommunications, which it really is. Starlink is --

is extraordinary.

And understand, SpaceX is not the only -- it's not a sole source provider for transportation into space, but I think something on the order of 80

percent of the launches are SpaceX at this point. So, is that going to stay that way? You're making a bet there.

They have done an incredible job with transportation. But remember, that's the -- that's the foundational tool set.

The real cash cow is going to be SpaceX. I've got 9,000 plus satellites in constellation around the earth right now. And that's both a CDN as well as

a communications network, content distribution network, as well as a communications network.

And they are best positioned to bring you space and space to you. So, if you're thinking that way, you'll -- you'll make a determination whether

that's a worthy investment or not or if it's properly priced.

But you got to say, it's an exciting stock because the story is exciting. They're not the only exciting game in town. There are others.

ASHER: Yes. And -- and, you know, just -- just look -- we're looking at the price right now just in terms of where things are at.

And I assume that over the next few days, we will see volatility. We will see the price sort of go up and down. I mean, there is obviously a lot of

excitement. But, you know, I was reading today that there are a lot of sort of major investors who actually do believe that this is overhyped and --

and far too expensive. They're not necessarily sure this is the right avenue for them. What do you make of that perspective?

PALERM: It's sober. NVIDIA, in the height of its exuberance, was trading at 25x. We're at close to 100x here. So this is way, way, way overpriced, if

you're looking at it as many investors do.

If you're looking at it as an optimist about the future, thinking about going to the moon, thinking about going to Mars, thinking about satellites,

thinking about, you know, putting in space stations, and what is that, then it might be underpriced.

It -- it depends on your point of view. This is all in the -- in the eyes of the beholder here. Any sober investor would look at this and go, you

know what, expect this thing to bounce up and down a little bit.

All the retail investors are all excited right now. They're going to get in the market. We've seen this story before so many, many times.

You know, again, what is the future worth? It's a hard thing for anyone to price right now. This is an unprecedented time. It's an overused word.

But when you think about what's happening with A.I., writ large, and you think about the speed of innovation, and you look at the relentless pursuit

of getting it done, like Elon's work ethic.

You may like him or hate him. This is a guy who is absolutely committed to work in 24/7, 365 and having everybody who works for him do the same. They

are all about productivity. They're all about output.

You have to respect that that -- this company is not going to stop. In fact, no Elon company is ever going to stop until they are stopped by

something else. They are just going to keep pursuing the future.

So, if that's where your head is, maybe it isn't overpriced. Again, this is a personal decision based on your risk profile. It has nothing to do with

reality. It has only to do with how you see the future.

ASHER: You're right about Elon's work ethic. I mean, it is unparalleled. I've met people who've worked for him in the past who have said that he

will literally schedule meetings with other managers and other executives at his company at 3:00 A.M. He'll say, Shelly, let's meet at 3:00 in the

morning to talk about XYZ. So, there you have it. Unlike anybody else.

Shelly Palmer, live for us there. Thank you so much.

All right. Tehran and Washington are giving conflicting accounts of what's in a tentative U.S. run interim peace agreement. The U.S. president is

lashing out at Tehran in a new social media post.

Donald Trump says that Iran leaked details of the proposal that are untrue on Thursday. He had touted the agreement saying it could be a sign

(INAUDIBLE) days.

A senior Trump administration official says that Iran has agreed to dismantle its nuclear program, open the Strait of Hormuz and end funding to

terrorist groups. He calls it a performance-based deal.

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Iran's prime minister says, a memorandum of understanding has never been closer. And the urge the media to stop speculating about its content until

the agreement is finalized.

So much to unpack here with CNN's national security analyst Beth Sanner. She's also a former deputy director of National Intelligence.

I mean, just in terms of us getting close to a deal one day and then going back to strikes the next day and then sort of being told that we are in

sort of some kind of ceasefire, but not really because the strikes are still going on.

And then Donald Trump sort of lashing out on social media saying that he is going to, you know, bomb Iran again. But then, wait a minute, he's not

going to because we're close to a deal.

We've seen this movie play out the same way so many times over the past few months. And so what is your take on this? How close are we to this war

actually ending, Beth?

BETH SANNER, CNN NATIONAL SECURITY ANALYST: Well, it's been quite a week, hasn't it? I mean, thank God it's Friday, but I'm not sure it's going to

end over the weekend. I keep my neck brace close at hand because of the whiplash that I feel like all of us are getting here.

I don't know. I don't know whether we're closer. I mean, OK, so both sides say we're closer than ever. But as, you know, lots of people say it's that

last five percent, that's the most difficult part.

I mean, I have some hope, but at the same time, that last five percent and what we're seeing in the list that you just read there, you know, my

perspective has been that in this MOU, I would not call it a deal, but in this MOU, that's supposed to lead us to actual negotiations on the nuclear

program, less is more.

But I think that President Trump also is very sensitive to the media criticism and trying to make it more. And then we have the dueling things

about what Iran wants.

But I think it's very hard for them to agree in this MOU with nothing up front, no money to agree on dismantling their entire program, for example.

There's some tough spots that we have to still iron out.

ASHER: And, you know, oftentimes, being the media can, you know, we can sort of lose ourselves in this idea of, you know, who has the upper hand.

But it's -- I mean, everyone's -- nobody's winning here at the end of the day with this particular war, especially when you consider the Strait of

Hormuz oil prices rising. The Strait of Hormuz effectively being closed.

And then you have this idea of nowhere for a lot of these Gulf countries to even store the oil, running out of literally sort of storage space for the

oil for some of these countries.

And then in the West, dwindling reserves, I mean, just explain to us how much pressure both sides are really under at this point in time to come to

an agreement, even though both sides really do have to sort of dig their heels into their red lines and what they are not willing to accept,

especially as it pertains to Iran's nuclear program.

SANNER: Yes. So, I think that in terms of the underlying stresses right now, I do feel like there's more of that on a democratic system than an

autocratic one where they literally kill people who speak up and protest.

So, you know, just like our structures make it so that the, you know, that the president -- that President Trump, the United States, is going to feel

more pressure.

Now, the United States has been much more insulated. I mean, this is CNN International, so people all over the world know that most places are

suffering a lot more than Americans are, which is, you know, an irony that is not lost on most people.

But still, as you said, President Trump has been warned, we know this from the press discussions that the oil executives have been warning and beating

this drum louder and louder, but the physical inventories of oil are getting dangerously low, that the U.S. Strategic Petroleum Reserve is

getting close, not there yet, but it's approaching its lowest level since it was started up in 1983.

And we also know that even though more, perhaps, is getting out of the strait, that we still have this deficit. We have a deficit of maybe five

million barrels a day to maybe 10 million on the top side.

Well, that -- that deficit maybe doesn't sound like that much, but that's why our inventories keep going down. And you cannot make up for that. And

so the president has been warned that the price at the pump is going to go up sometime this summer and probably dramatically.

So, I think these pressures are really weighing on the U.S. president at this moment.

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The Iranians, they are hurting, but I think that in their system, they don't care as much. And they think that they have a little bit more time on

their side and they smell blood a little bit in the water.

They think that President Trump looks desperate, whether that's true or not, doesn't matter, because it affects Iranian calculus.

And I think one of the risks here, as President Trump just warned in the Truth Social little while ago that they better get serious quick, the

Iranians risk overplaying their hand. And so do we. So, we're still in this danger of a potential return to escalation.

ASHER: All right. We'll keep our eye on it. Beth Sanner live for us there. Thank you so much. Appreciate it.

SANNER: Thank you.

ASHER: All right. Still to come here on "One World," British Prime Minister Keir Starmer is facing challenges to his leadership also as a key rival for

his job who is facing his own test next week. We'll talk about that as well.

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ASHER: All right. Israel says it's investigating a shooting in the West Bank last week when an Israeli soldier opened fire on a Palestinian

family's car. The bullet struck a seven-month-old baby boy inside the vehicle and killed him.

CNN's Jeremy Diamond spoke to the baby's family who are desperately looking for answers about how on earth this could have happened.

We have his report for you now. And we have to warn you that it may be difficult to watch.

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JEREMY DIAMOND, CNN JERUSALEM CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): A (INAUDIBLE) and cries, a portrait of despair. A father cradling his bloodied baby. His hand

pressed to the seven-month-old's head as he looks around helplessly.

DIAMOND: You were trying to do anything you could to save him.

FAHD ABU HAIKAL, SLAIN BABY'S FATHER: Yes. (INAUDIBLE). I saw my son was severely injured in his face. And I didn't just -- I want to go out and

carry him to the hospital.

DANIA ABU HAIKAL, SLAIN BABY'S MOTHER: I started shouting. They shoot my son. They shoot my son.

DIAMOND (voice-over): Their son, Sam, was sitting in his mother's lap in the back seat of their car when an Israeli soldier opened fire, striking

Sam in the head.

He is the 13th child to be killed by Israeli forces in the occupied West Bank so far this year, according to the Israeli human rights group,

B'Tselem.

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DIAMOND: So this is the place where the bullet that killed --

DIAMOND (voice-over): The Israeli military claimed its soldiers, quote, perceived a vehicle accelerating toward them, but this video obtained by

B'Tselem paints a different picture showing Fahd's car slowing to a stop.

The video has no audio but the person who filmed it told B'Tselem, this soldier opened fire just as the car was coming to a stop.

Both Fahd and his mother, who was in the passenger seat, identified the same soldier and moment of fire.

F. HAIKAL: I raise my hand, he shoots. He set my hand on the steering wheel, this area and he shoots us.

DIAMOND (voice-over): Blood still stains the car, which Fahd says was close enough for the soldier to seat through the windshield.

F. HAIKAL: When you see something in front of you and aim at him and shoot him, it's not by mistake. Of course, you see him, he has a family, has his

two sons and his wife and his mother and shoot. There's no mistakes in this situation. There's one shoots to kill.

DIAMOND (voice-over): Sam's grandmother has returned for the first time to the street where her grandson's life was taken. She still can't make sense

of it all.

FERIAL ABU JAIKAL, SLAIN BABY'S GRANDMOTHER: We -- we expect that they will listen to us, go out, return, you must return, shoot in the air, but they

didn't do anything. Only they shoot him.

DIAMOND: The Israeli soldier who opened fire was standing right about here, only about 10 meters or 30 feet away from the vehicle carrying baby Sam.

But we have limited video of what actually happened because Israeli soldiers then came to this area and confiscated all of the surveillance

video from this street.

The Israeli military says it opens a criminal investigation into the matter. They also said that they expressed, quote, deep sorrow for any harm

caused to uninvolved civilians.

Amid her immeasurable grief, Sam's mother, Dania, is also recovering from her own painful wounds. Part of the bullet that killed her son also went

through her face and pieces of shrapnel are still lodged in her chest.

But she is also enduring another pain, one known only to mothers whose babies have died.

D. HAIKAL: When my chest is making milk for my son, it starts to hurt me. And I start pumping the milk away from my body, I always cry. Because it's

a mother -- mother and son bonding. Yes.

He was all my life.

DIAMOND (voice-over): Beyond that grief and pain, there is also anger here and a determination to fight for her baby boy.

D. HAIKAL: The Israeli soldier that shoot at us, he should be punished. He shouldn't get away like always.

Jeremy Diamond, CNN, Hebron, the West Bank.

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ASHER: All right. British Prime Minister Keir Starmer is bracing for a possible leadership challenge from his Labour Party. His would-be rival

could emerge after next week's by-election in the city of Makerfield.

Fourteen candidates are running in that race, including Manchester Mayor Andy Burnham, who's expected to challenge Mr. Starmer if he wins.

Nic Robertson has more.

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NIC ROBERTSON, CNN INTERNATIONAL DIPLOMATIC EDITOR: Andy Burnham, the charismatic Manchester mayor, is on a mission to become prime minister. And

it's starting here in a local election in Makerfield, a northern working- class area.

ANDY BURNHAM, MAYOR, GREATER MANCHESTER: Even though Friday evening in the Burnham campaign HQ at Stubshaw Cross, there they all are. Hard at work.

ROBERTSON: Burnham's folksy vibe in here is part of his political superpower and he's going to need it. This election is widely expected to

be one of the most unconventional and consequential in a generation.

This is where the story, so to speak, begins Downing Street two years ago. Keir No Drama Starmer delivers a rollicking election victory, bringing his

Labour Party to power, tossing out the Tories who'd torn through four prime ministers in three years.

Expectations were Starmer would deliver stability. His massive mandate would bring change, but the economy faltered. Missteps followed. Not least,

Starmer appointing Peter Mandelson, a former friend of Jeffrey Epstein, to be his ambassador to the United States.

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ROBERTSON (voice-over): When details of Mandelson's relationship with Epstein leaked last year, Starmer fired him. Mandelson denied wrongdoing.

It cost Starmer credibility. Calls for a leadership change grew.

CHRIS CURTIS, MEMBER, LABOUR PARLIAMENT MEMBER: People are starting to lose faith in that kind of mainstream politics in order to fix the problems that

this country faces. They're doing it because for too long that kind of politics hasn't solved those problems.

ROBERTSON (voice-over): Curtis, a former pollster and now a Labour MP once Starmer replaced, sees Makerfield as make or break for Labour. Their

biggest challenge coming from the hard right, Reform Party.

CURTIS: They are leading in the opinion polls at the moment, but it's not just the fact that they could win the next general election and the polls

show us that they could. It is just how disastrous I think they would be for the country if they did.

ROBERTSON: So back to Makerfield and Burnham's path to prime minister, for the past 120 years, voters here have always returned Labour MPs but this

working-class community like so many across the country is giving up on the main political parties. The relatively untested new kids on the block,

populist right-wing reform are surging where Starmer is stumbling.

The race so tight, Reform leader, sometime Trump friend and Brexit cheerleader, Nigel Farage, is suddenly spending time in Makerfield trying

to make sure his candidate, Rob Kenyon, wins.

NIGEL FARAGE, LEADER, REFORM U.K.: I'm thinking as many Reform's supporters as possible will come and help him between now and June the 18th the date

of this epic battle against Andy Burnham.

ROBERTSON (voice-over): For Farage, Kenyon's victory in Makerfield would signal his and Reform's path to Downing Street isn't just a pipe dream.

That U.K. politics is changed for good and a chance to realize Reform's right- wing policies.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: In his first act as prime minister, not a single unauthorized vessel crossing the English Channel.

BURNHAM: A vote for me in this by-election campaign is a vote to change Labour.

ROBERTSON (voice-over): Burnham, by contrast, would shift his party and the U.K. the other direction, to the left.

BURNHAM: We just need to take stronger action to get the basics affordable for people back under public control.

ROBERTSON (voice-over): At the moment, power sits with Labour. Over 400 MPs to Reform's eight. But Makerfield is set to test who has their finger on

the British pulse, a bellwether for the next general election.

Nic Robertson, CNN, Makerfield, England.

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ASHER: And CNN contacted the Green Party, the Conservatives and the Liberal Democrats for comment. Liberal Democrats said Labour Party, in fighting,

has undermined trust in politics. And that its candidate is -- is standing in Makerfield to show voters what an omitted local champion looks like, one

who isn't caught up in national leadership ambitions.

All right. Some developing news. This just in. The Pope's plane has been grounded because of a technical problem.

CNN's Chris Lamb joins us live now from the plane in Tenerife in the Canary Islands.

Chris, I understand that this plane is supposed to be on its way to the Vatican. What -- what more do we know? You're on the plane with the Pope.

CHRISTOPHER LAMB, CNN VATICAN CORRESPONDENT (through telephone): Yes. I'm - - I'm sitting here on the -- the papal plane. We were told a short while ago by the captain that there was a systems problem and that the plane

needed to try and restart. It was engine.

The Pope then began to ride, left the plane. And essentially, we've been waiting now for (INAUDIBLE).

But -- and we made this news that we had (INAUDIBLE) at the plane whilst they try and fix the problem.

Now, Pope Leo has been on a trip to Spain and he's -- he's due to leave this afternoon from Tenerife to -- back to Rome and the Vatican.

And -- and it's normal that you get on this papal plane which are in fact provided by the (INAUDIBLE) normally with the pope visits. It's not you get

on and you need to go away. I can't think of a sign when coming into this happen.

The plane that we're on is an Iberia Airways right now. That has been provided by the Spain for (INAUDIBLE). And -- and that is -- that is

normal.

And but, yes, the pope is still off the plane. And we are being asked to disembark quite soon.

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ASHER: All right. Christopher Lamb, do keep us posted on how this issue is resolved. If you have any more detail about what this issue is, how long

you end up waiting for and when the flight ends up taking off.

Christopher Lamb there reporting from the Iberia Airways flight. The Pope once again is in Tenerife. His plane has been grounded because of a

technical issue. This plane is on its way back to the Vatican, as I understand it.

I had a hard time hearing Christopher there, but as I understand, the Pope has himself disembarked from this flight.

All right. We'll be right back with more after this short break.

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ASHER: All right. The World Cup has kicked off an earnest, and co-host Mexico is off to a strong start.

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ASHER: That crowd in Mexico City celebrating as their country scored in the tournament's opening match on Thursday. The team beats South Africa two

nil, dominating in terms of possession and shots on goal. They'll face South Korea next week fresh from their victory over the Czech Republic.

Meantime, co-hosts Canada and the U.S. are getting ready for their debut as well, later on today after an opening ceremony in Toronto, which will

feature performances by stars such as Michael Buble.

Canada will play their first game against Bosnia and Herzegovina this afternoon. And then later on you've got Team USA facing up against Paraguay

in L.A. Both sides getting some practice as you there earlier.

Before that, one last opening ceremony, this one in L.A. with performances by Katy Perry, Future, and more.

Coy Wire joining us live now from Los Angeles Stadium, where Team U.S. -- are you nervous, Coy, for your American teammates? How are you feeling

right now?

COY WIRE, CNN WORLD SPORT: I'm starting to get the butterflies a bit. This is a big, big moment. I've covered six Olympics. I've covered Super Bowls,

the biggest sporting events. I've covered a women's World Cup. This is my first men's World Cup. So, yes, I may be as nervous as those players in

there, feel the butterflies a bit.

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America has spent decades, Zain, knocking on soccer's front door. This summer, they're trying to kick it in. Thirty-two years ago, America proved

they could host a World Cup. Tonight, though, they'll start to try to hope to prove they can help shape it.

And somewhere inside, every player on this roster is the kid who once pretended the backyard was a World Cup stadium. Now, that dream is reality.

On home soil, we asked the guys about that and what they're going to be feeling in the moment. Listen.

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CHRISTIAN PULISIC, UNITED STATES FORWARD: Probably be looking up at my family and friends in the stands who supported me throughout all this. So

there'll be a lot of emotions. It'll be a proud moment representing the U.S. home soil in a World Cup. I mean, very special.

SEBASTIAN BERHALTER, UNITED STATES MIDFIELDER: Very happy motion and you know, tears come, tears come. But, yes, I'm -- I'm -- I -- I can't wait for

that moment.

WESTON MCKENNIE, UNITED STATES MIDFIELDER: Full circle moment because, you know, as a kid dreaming about being in that position wearing the crest and

-- and being able to hear the national anthem. I think it's something that, yes, it -- it makes dreams come true.

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WIRE: Now, Zain, Christian Pulisic is the face of American soccer. Nickname, Captain America. He moved to England for a year when he was seven

when mom earned a Fulbright scholarship, living eight miles north of Oxford. He played for a youth side there.

Dad says that's where the journey began. Pulisic is looking to write a redemption story. Tough club season with AC Milan, swirling questions about

his form. He got injured while scoring the winning goal against Iran in the must-win World Cup match in 2022.

Had to watch the second half from a hospital bed. Says he still lies in bed today, imagining himself lifting the World Cup trophy. Pressure can bust

pipes. It can also create diamonds.

We asked Pulisic about the pressure.

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PULISIC: There is a pressure there. I'm human. I feel it. I want to perform well. I want to help this team win. I want to help this country be

successful in this World Cup.

And I can only do the best that I can do and prepare as best I can. And I feel that that's what I'm doing. So at the end of it, I can hold my head

high no matter what happens because, yes, I'm going to give it -- I'm going to give everything we got.

And, luckily, I have a team behind me who's going to support me. So I don't -- I don't have to do it alone.

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WIRE: So Captain America is human after all, Zain. Every superhero gets tested this summer starting tonight. Maybe Christian Pulisic's biggest test

yet. The kid who dreamed to lift in the World Cup now gets a chance with his team in front of their own country and 70,000 other closest friends

tonight.

ASHER: Yes. I mean, Coy, but as they point out, you know, regardless of who wins, just the fact that you've been able to play in the World Cup, that is

no small thing. And those memories will last a lifetime.

So just, yes, we want the Americans to win and all of that stuff, but just the fact that you're there and you're playing on that pitch, you've done

very well for yourself.

Coy Wire, we have to leave it there. Thank you so much.

All right. We're going to take a timeout now to talk about the tremendous pressure on the athletes who are competing in football's biggest

tournament.

Even an event like the World Cup aimed at uniting people through the power of football, has faced the specter of politics, living large and for the

athletes on the pitch, hundreds of millions of fans are putting their hopes and dreams on their success, whether it's world champions or Olympic medal

athletes.

Our next guest has worked closely with competitors to help them optimize their performance under pressure.

Joining us live now is consultant psychiatrist, Dr Steve Peters, author of the best-selling book, "The Chimp Paradox," as well as the book, "A Path

through the Jungle."

He's also the founder of Chimp Management. Dr. Steven Peters, thank you so much for being with us.

I mean, obviously, if you, as I was just sort of saying to Coy, I mean, obviously the fact that you are in the World Cup at all, your dreams have

already come true and you've done very well for yourself.

But just thinking about the enormous pressure on some of these athletes. I mean, playing at that level, you have to have skill, you have to have

stamina, you have to have enormous talent, but to play at the World Cup to really be able to sort of drown out the noise of millions of people, sort

of, A, watching live, some live, obviously, on television, in the stadium, you really have to have incredible, incredible focus.

I'm sure at some point during the game, the sort of noise from the fans sort of largely disappears from your perspective and you just sort of focus

on getting the job done.

But what is that like? What is that like for elite athletes playing in the World Cup?

DR. STEVE PETERS, CONSULTANT PSYCHIATRIST: Thank you for inviting me first. It's very much a unique experience. So, I couldn't speak for myself as one

man with one experience in sports.

Over the last 25 years, I've worked with various teams, including football, not just World Cup. And my experience is that people are very unique to one

size doesn't fit all.

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So, I see the way I approach it with people is to say that you've got a physical body and they've prepared over years to get this body in the right

position where its muscles are right. It's got the right power, it's got the right skill base.

The mind is a machine. And in my world, I'm a neuroscientist by train, a medical doctor. I look at how the brain functions, the way it thinks, the

emotions it gets, the behaviors it transmits.

And so what is it you want it to do and what you're actually experiencing, and they may not be on the same page. So my job is to ask people, what is

it they want to do? What would they think will enhance their performance and help them get there?

ASHER: Just in terms of the uniqueness of playing in a team sport at the World Cup. Because obviously, you know, when you're an athlete at that

level, yes, you can control how hard you train, how much you practice, getting your focus right, and all of that stuff.

But at the end of the day, you do have to surrender to the fact that whether you win or lose is largely dependent on so many factors beyond your

control, including how your teammates perform.

And so that ability to sort of have this sort of cohesive team spirit, one person on your team might make a mistake or a stupid mistake and get sent

off with a red card, you still have to not blame them and focus on really the sort of togetherness that is so important for winning the World Cup.

Just explain to us the team dynamics and how that fits into the performance on the pitch.

PETERS: OK. I've had the privilege of working with a lot of national squads for the U.K. And from my perspective, I go in first on the -- on the unique

level of the individual. So I get the individuals in a good place. It's sort of self-evident.

But if you've got all team members in a good place, in other words, they've got good self-esteem, they have the ability to focus or refocus if they

lose focus, they're process-driven, they're managing emotions that might come in.

My stance is to get them to do that first so that they're mentally emotionally skilled to be able to then join into a team and act in a team

capacity.

So, I start with individuals, then we look at the team rules. And again, it is very different to work with individual athletes because you're buying

into a set of values and a set of processes which you may not always agree with.

So it is important that we get everybody on the same page. And as you rightly say, if people start to make mistakes, which inevitably will happen

in sport, we know how to manage that. So, I do a lot of work well before the event.

So for example, in an Olympic cycle, if I'm working with Olympic squad, we have a four-year cycle in order to get those skill bases right up to

scratch and the team cohesion. So it isn't like an instantaneous thing on the day. It's something we prepare for individuals.

What might throw you off? What might happen in the team? And that would be different for different people. And then work out what works for them.

ASHER: In terms of what might throw people off, I always wonder, you know, when -- when there's a sort of football match going on and, you know, the

team that you're playing on is down, let's say, zero to two. Let's say the other team is winning and you're losing by a significant margin. And

there's only like 20 minutes left in the game.

It's -- it's -- I imagine it's gonna be very difficult to still be super motivated, to still tell yourself, we have to perform at our best, even

though the odds of us turning this around is very narrow. We cannot give up and we cannot lose motivation. How does that mindset get developed?

PETERS: Again, I would take this by a lead from the coach or the manager. They would tell me what it is they feel they would need to do at that

point, and then we buy into that, just whatever they've decided.

So if they say we're going to be very defensive, but move forward, for example, in the team sport like football, then it's important that players

understand why we're doing that, buy into it, and practice this before it happens.

So, we don't get to a stage where they're two nil down and you're thinking all is lost and think, what do we do now? They would have a structured plan

is the way I work.

I, as a psych wouldn't make that plan of what. My job is to help the manager or with the team leader to clarify what the plan is so that I've

got it clear in my head and then get buy in from the -- the -- each of the players and the manager to say when this happens, if it happens, we have a

plan of action and we all know exactly how to manage our emotions, our behaviors on the pitch at that point.

ASHER: All right. Dr. Steve Peters, thank you. Thank you so much for that very interesting conversation.

We'll be right back with more after this short break.

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ASHER: For South African actress, Nomzamo Mbatha, perseverance and determination have always influenced her humanitarian work.

Now, Mbatha is aiming to use her platform to help empower female entrepreneurs. Our Larry Madowo sits down with this month's African Voices

Changemaker.

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LARRY MADOWO, CNN CORRESPONDENT: What does being a change maker mean to you and how does it play into the social impact you're having with all your

advocacy?

NOMZAMO MBATHA, SOUTH AFRICAN ACTRESS: Being a change maker means leaning into two things, personally, resilience and grit. You're going to need it

because to make a change means that you're going to be coming up a lot of hurdles and there's going to be some things that are going to be in your

way.

And for you to be able to overcome those things to make true change and true impact, you've got to have grit and you've got to have resilience.

MADOWO: Do you remember the first time when you realized that what you were doing was having an impact in somebody else's life and other people's

lives?

MBATHA: Yes. We just had our EmpoweringHER event and we invited our past recipients to be a part of the celebration, because this year, we were

celebrating -- celebrating the power of 50 and essentially to say we've empowered 50 women-owned businesses with financial contributions towards

their businesses.

And I was getting pulled throughout the event. Nomzamo, I'm only 35 years old. I am class of 2022. That was three years ago for me. You will not

believe we only had 14 employees.

After we won the award and after we got the -- the -- the recognition from you, we now have 110 employees. I just signed the biggest contract, a

multi-million rand contract just from that. Those are the things that remind me that the work is not done.

MADOWO: What's your advice to people who want to have an impact or be change makers in their own community? Because sometimes they say, I don't

have that much money. I'm not Nomzamo. How can I possibly have an impact?

MBATHA: I would say, stop using the idea of collaborating up and collaborate across. When you want to continue to collaborate up, you always

think that the task is so much bigger, that you're never going to have access to the CEO or have access to these prominent people, whereas there's

people who are on your field working their part of the world that you can be able to collaborate with and be able to make real change. And so that's

where I'd say start. But also start with something that you're truly genuinely passionate about.

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ASHER: All right. There is breaking news in Texas right now. At least one person is dead after a mass shooting in the city of Midland. This is in

Western Texas.

The mayor says that 11 people were shot. Again, one person has been killed.

CNN's Ryan Young is joining us live now from Atlanta. Ryan, what more do we know?

RYAN YOUNG, CNN SENIOR U.S. NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Yes, sad story with the details still coming in right now. We know around eight o'clock local time,

there were shots fired. Eleven people shot. One dead.

The standoff has just ended in the last of 10 minutes or so. We're not sure if the suspect is alive or if they're that one person who is dead. We also

know that there's several different emergency surgeries going on at a hospital nearby.

On top of this, let's just think Midland's about five hours away from Dallas. But we did just get some video in of some of the shots being fired.

Let's take a listen.

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YOUNG: Yes. So, you can hear those shots being fired. You can see the officers taking position behind their cars there. We know many different

SWAT teams are in this area surrounding what has been told to us. It's like a motel or a hotel in this area. There's also been some other businesses

that have been impacted.

This entire area has been on lockdown since around eight o'clock this morning. And now we know the standoff is officially over.

The mayor has talked in the last hour or so telling us about the details of all the surging law enforcement that went into that area.

We don't know why this shooting happened. We don't know if there was some sort of warrant being served or someone got upset at a local business and

started firing.

But what we do know is one person is dead. Eleven other people are shot. And we're now told this standoff is over. So, it's something that we'll

have to continue to check in.

But Midland is pretty much a small area, about five hours outside of Dallas. Very difficult to get through -- get to from a -- a large airport.

But at the same time, still trying to figure out all the details in this case.

It's just obviously shocking on a Friday to have something like this happen. Zain.

ASHER: And, Ryan, just in terms of the 11 people who are injured, what do we know about their injuries and -- and how they're doing?

YOUNG: Yes. And that's -- that's one thing that we're also trying to clarify. We know we believe all eleven were shot.

When you hear that sound from the gunshots that we've played for you, it sounded like some sort of rifle maybe being fired. We're not sure if this

shooting took place inside a business or outside.

So, were these 11 people innocent people who were going on about their day when someone opened fire? That's something that we're still trying to get

to details to.

When the mayor did their news conference and the city officials did, probably about, let's say, a half hour ago, they still had very raw details

in this. And, of course, we're trying to pepper them with as many questions as possible to try to figure out exactly what happened or maybe even

details about the suspect, but that hasn't happened right now.

We just know that perimeter and that lockdown is several blocks long in this area. And we're just trying to figure out the -- the details.

What we do know, people are getting emergency surgery right now at the hospital there in Midland, Texas.

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ASHER: Yes. As you point out though, the standoff is now over.

YOUNG: Absolutely.

ASHER: But 11 people have been injured, based on your reporting and also one person sadly --

YOUNG: Yes.

ASHER: -- has been killed.

Ryan Young, live for us there. Thank you so much.

YOUNG: Thank you.

ASHER: All right. That does it for this hour of "One World." I'm Zain Asher. We appreciate you watching. "Amanpour" is up next.

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