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ZAIN ASHER, CNN HOST, ONE WORLD: Demands for answers after a man is shot and killed by I.C.E. agents in Texas on his way to work. "One World" starts
right now. We're getting a new account of what happened inside the van where he was shot, with an attorney saying the story immigration officials
are telling is completely false.
The fighting between the U.S. and Iran might be paused, but neither side is showing any signs of compromise. And it's one of the biggest complaints
coming out of this year's World Cup. We'll talk to a former referee about the promise and the pitfalls of using a video assistant referee, or VAR.
All right, coming to you live in New York. I'm Zain Asher. Bianna is off today. You are watching "One World". Crucial new details have surfaced
about the fatal shooting of a Mexican national near Houston on Tuesday. A source tells CNN that Lorenzo Salgado Araujo was not the target of federal
immigration operations before he was shot and killed by an I.C.E. agent.
Immigration customs enforcement officials said the agent opened fire after the 52-year-old rammed a law enforcement vehicle and refused to follow
verbal commands during a traffic stop that was part of a targeted operation. His son says his father would never knowingly run from I.C.E.
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RONALDO SALGADO, FATHER FATALLY SHOT BY ICE: He did not know that those vehicles following him were I.C.E. agents. Again, these vehicles were
unmarked; they had no emblems, no logos, no flashing lights. There was no way for him to know that they were I.C.E. agents. I know my dad would have
stopped had I.C.E. agents formally and clearly identified themselves.
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ASHER: CNN's Ed Lavandera joins us live now with more. And Ed, there is quite a bit of skepticism, especially given after what we saw in this
country back in January about the story that I.C.E. officials are saying happened. What more do we know for sure at this point? Obviously, details
are sparse. We don't have video, but what more do we know about what actually happened during that stop?
ED LAVANDERA, CNN SENIOR U.S. NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, the Latino civil rights activists have been very critical of immigrations and customs
enforcement and the Department of Homeland Security, especially with their characterization of how these events unfolded.
They have said that they have followed the playbook that we saw, as you alluded to, the killings that happened in Minneapolis, Minnesota, earlier
this year, where the description of what I.C.E. officials said had happened didn't really match with what the video showed in those incidents, so that
is why there's a great deal of skepticism.
However, in this case, we simply don't have a one definitive video that captures everything that happened. That so far has not emerged. But
investigator, excuse me, I.C.E. officials say they believe that Lorenzo Salgado Araujo was evading the I.C.E. agents used in the words of I.C.E.
agents weaponized his vehicle to go after I.C.E. agents and that they fired at him in self-defense.
As you heard from Salgado's son, they do not believe that version of events. Activists do not believe that version of events. And there is a
lawyer in Houston who spent some time yesterday with the three other men who were in that white van. They survived.
They have been taken into immigration custody, where they have been detained since early Tuesday morning. That lawyer says, based on his
conversations with those three men, I.C.E.'s version of events simply is not true.
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HUGO BALDERAS-IBARRA, ATTORNEY: After speaking with these three men that were in the vehicle with Lorenzo, I have no doubt that what these I.C.E.
agents are saying is completely false. At no point did they ever use the van to ram into the I.C.E. agents, and at no point were these I.C.E.
agents' lives ever in any danger.
These men deserve respect. They deserve answers. They deserve justice. And we are demanding an independent investigation so that we can get them the
justice and the answers that they deserve.
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LAVANDERA: And what is significant there is that's really the first time where we've heard as close as we have been able to get so far from the
three men that were in that truck that they insist that the vehicle was not aimed at any of the agents there in the field in Houston.
And Zain, you also alluded to another detail that we have learned from a source that says that Salgado and the three men in that truck were not the
original targets. Remember, I.C.E. says that this operation to apprehend these undocumented immigrants was part of a targeted operation.
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A source tells CNN that these three men were not the target of it; that they were actually going into that area on their way to another property
that they had been surveilling for several weeks that had two white vans that they had noticed during their surveillance.
Then they came across Salgado's white van and they started following him. So that's also a significant development as we try to piece together what
happened in the early morning hours of Tuesday morning when Lorenzo Salgado Araujo was shot and killed by I.C.E. agents. And we expect to hear more
from the lawyer that spoke with those three other men here in a little while in Houston.
ASHER: And if we don't get evidence promptly, I mean, we heard from Araujo's son there, and we've heard a lot about some skepticism, as we
pointed out, both you and I -- you know, comparing it to what happened in January.
If we don't get evidence, if there is sort of continued skepticism clouding what exactly happened? And whether or not people on the ground there
actually believe official statements from I.C.E., are we likely to see continued demonstrations, more protests akin to what we saw back in
January?
LAVANDERA: It's hard to say whether or not it will rise to that kind of level of protest. But you know what is significant here is that there
doesn't appear to be a whole lot of recourse. Federal agents and the FBI, which says it's leading the investigation into what has happened, they are
investigating this as a potential assault on the law enforcement officer.
No mention of the shooting, from what we've heard from federal officials. That's why family members as well as activists are calling for a full
independent investigation. But local officials, the prosecutors there in Houston, as well as city officials, say you know they're kind of hamstrung
at this point. It is the federal officers that have all of the evidence.
We are also been told by the Department of Homeland Security that the agents there in the scene were not wearing body cameras, and there was no
dash cameras on in the cars, the unmarked vehicles that those I.C.E. agents were driving.
So that is why we're trying to piece together how all of this unfolded, based on some of the cameras that were in the neighborhood, eyewitness
video to what happened to try to piece all of this together.
ASHER: Right, Ed Lavandera live for us there. Thank you so much. All right, an uneasy calm hangs over the Middle East after two days of deadly strikes
between the U.S. and Iran amid the threat of a return to all-out war. And now there is renewed speculation about who exactly is calling the shots in
Tehran?
Iran's new Supreme Leader did not appear at his father's funeral this week, fueling speculation about his health and a possible void at the top of the
regime. An American official, meantime, claims that the U.S. is deliberately striking Iran and then pausing to avoid escalation in order to
give diplomacy a chance.
But Israel's Defense Minister says that his country is ready to resume the war against Iran on its own if necessary. And now we're hearing that
Israeli sources say the Trump Administration does not want Israel to get involved in American strikes for fear of losing control of the conflict.
CNN's Jeremy Diamonds is live now from Tel Aviv. So, what has been the reaction so far to this idea that the Trump Administration is reticent to
allow the Israelis to get involved this time around?
JEREMY DIAMOND, CNN JERUSALEM CORRESPONDENT: Well, listen. So far, the Israeli military, the government, have not sought to strike Iran amid this
latest escalation of tensions. But according to one source familiar with the matter, this appears to be at the behest of the United States.
With this source telling us that while the Israeli Prime Minister does want to join in on these latest U.S. strikes on Iran, the United States has
communicated quite clearly that it does not want Israel involved at this moment. And that is, of course, because Israeli involvement in striking
Iran would dramatically escalate this current situation, potentially drawing this region back into all-out war once again.
The Israeli military, however, does remain on high alert, prepared to resume the campaign should that become necessary? Should that become be the
decision of the Israeli Prime Minister? Israeli Defense Minister Israel Katz, saying that should Israel ultimately rejoin this conflict with
military strikes against Iran, that it will do so with quote even greater force.
Again, as of now, that is not the indication from Israeli or American officials, we have seen, of course, that American officials as well seem to
be allowing for a bit of a pause in these strikes right now to let diplomacy do its work.
And Israeli officials also assess that even despite the escalation of tensions and U.S. strikes in recent days, it still seems like President
Trump is intent on avoiding a return to all-out war.
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And so again, we will continue to monitor all of this from here and seeing whether or not this latest escalation of tensions ultimately boils over, or
if the diplomatic off-ramp that is so often sought can once again be taken?
ASHER: And just in terms of what's happening in Lebanon, just talk to us a bit more about these pilot zones, these sort of test areas for Israeli
withdrawal to essentially allow much more Lebanese sovereignty, Jeremy?
DIAMOND: Yeah. Well, since Israel and the Lebanese government reached an agreement last week regarding the withdrawal of Israeli forces from two
different positions in Southern Lebanon that are currently occupied by the Israeli military. We've been waiting to see whether or not Israel is
actually going to carry out that withdrawal, when it might happen.
We just heard from a U.S. official yesterday who said that this first pilot program is going to launch in a quote matter of days, and that would
involve again the withdrawal of Israeli troops from one of these areas in Southern Lebanon.
Lebanese armed forces then coming in and securing that area with the goal of keeping that area out of Hezbollah's hands in the future. There are, in
addition to that, expect it to be further negotiations between the Israeli and Lebanese governments in Rome next week. These will largely be technical
negotiations aimed at advancing these pilot programs and also furthering the broader diplomacy that we've seen between Israel and Lebanon.
And of course, all of this, you know, is the withdrawal of Israeli forces at the end of the day is the kind of major thing that's going to unlock any
potential progress in the negotiations between the Israeli and Lebanese governments.
The Lebanese President Joseph Aoun, for example, has said that he will not meet with the Israeli Prime Minister until Lebanese sovereignty has been
reestablished, until all Israeli forces withdraw from Southern Lebanon.
ASHER: All right, Jeremy Diamond, live for us there. Thank you so much. Let's bring in Sanam Vakil. She's the Director of Middle East and North
Africa Programme at Chatham House, and she joins us live now from London.
So, Senna, let me just start with the fact that you have apparently the United States very hesitant to allow for Israel to join in this latest
round of fighting. What does that mean for the Israelis, just in terms of optics? What does it mean in terms of operations? And what does it say
really about Trump's relationship with Netanyahu? And how the Americans view Israel in this particular war?
SANAM VAKIL, DIRECTOR, MIDDLE EAST & NORTH AFRICA PROGRAMME, CHATHAM HOUSE: Well, I think the Trump Administration is trying to manage very difficult
but interconnected dynamics. They know full well that Prime Minister Netanyahu would like to take another shot at the Iranians.
And that, of course, could drag the Trump Administration back into war. And for the time being, despite the escalation in and around the Persian Gulf
with the Iranians and the ripping up of the so-called memorandum of understanding, President Trump does want to keep the peace for now.
And that's contingent on Prime Minister Netanyahu also engaging in the negotiation track with the Lebanese and staying out of the Iran arena and
not provoking conflict in any way. What it says is, of course, that there are some tensions between the White House and the prime minister.
But these are not going to be necessarily tensions that are going to blow up the relationship that is historical and, of course, also quite deep
institutional and strategic for the United States.
ASHER: How does the U.S. and Iran get out, extract both themselves from this cycle, this sort of cycle of on again, off again strikes? And also
striking at each other while diplomacy is taking place, while negotiations are taking place.
I mean, as President Trump intimated, and we knew this already, there is such little trust on either side. President Trump talked about not really
wanting to engage in terms of negotiating with the Iranians, because he simply cannot trust them, and I'm sure the feeling is, of course, mutual.
So, how do we emerge from this?
VAKIL: This is a very difficult situation in no uncertain terms, because ultimately there are a couple scenarios here where the status quo of
neither war nor peace becomes the new normal, and we see intermittent strikes between the U.S. and Iran.
Instability that spills over across the Strait impacts Gulf economies become just the way of the world. Negotiations will continue, but they
wouldn't really deliver a clear opening of the Strait of Hormuz or resolve the nuclear issue between Iran and the United States.
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That is really unsustainable. The other scenario is really that there is a determined effort to arrive at a deal, and that requires actually consensus
in Washington, but consensus above all in Tehran that they're going to try to unlock these interconnected issues.
It means that the two sides will have to remain committed to ongoing negotiations. These breaks in negotiations are not working out. I think
that they have to basically just park themselves somewhere in Switzerland until they unravel the process of opening the Strait of Hormuz, unravel the
nuclear dilemma that they both face, and develop a pathway to a more sustainable deal.
But that requires hard work, discipline, and persistence. And you know the world is very fragmented right now. Countries everywhere are trying to
advance their own agendas, and internally everywhere there are also so many divisions that it's hard to see that coming to fruition.
ASHER: On the one hand, you have the United States, of course, not wanting to escalate. That's why they don't want Israel involved this time around.
But on the other hand, you have Trump at least verbally dangling the possibility of escalating as a way to get the Iranians to listen and to
play bold.
One idea that he floated was targeting desalination plants, which of course would be a disaster and would of course mean hell for other Gulf nations,
who Iran would then retaliate on. And then he's also talked about this idea of striking certain parts of Kharg Island, trying to hurt Iran's economy
without it necessarily backfiring on the global economy, which is quite a complicated process.
So, it seems as though these are carrots that are being dangled that he's not necessarily willing at this point to go through with. But if he doesn't
go through with them, and a lot of people say that he won't, it's just sort of bluster at this point. What actually changes during these negotiations?
VAKIL: Well, first of all, they're not carrots; they're sort of negative.
ASHER: Yes, yes, that's what I mean. I'm sorry. Yes, yes, yes.
VAKIL: Yeah, yeah. But certainly, I think what's problematic is that the Trump Administration continues to see Iran through the prism of this
negative leverage. They think that pressure, further strikes, bombings, sanctions are the way to deal with this regime, and it remains sort of an
old operating model that they need to update.
Iran has faced sanctions for decades at this point, but this regime that has survived the U.S. and Israel's war is feeling perhaps overconfident,
but feels that it has more to gain. And it doesn't trust the United States. And it feels that the United States is trying to whittle away at its
leverage in the Strait of Hormuz, if not in other arenas as well.
So, there is a you know perpetual misperception of the other. What we really need is both sides to step back from the brink and get to the
negotiating table, and that's very hard to facilitate, as you said, in a climate of mistrust.
So, I don't know how we exactly break the deadlock, but continuing to pound Iran and using this negative leverage is also not going to work. It's going
to creep, drag the United States drip, drip back into a bigger, more threatening war. That this leadership in Iran today thinks it can handle
and thinks it can manage, and that's problematic.
ASHER: All right, Dr. Vakil Sanam, thank you so much for your time and your perspective. Obviously, there's so much that we don't know in terms of how
the U.S. unravels itself from this, and clearly the methods that they have used so far are obviously not working. Thank you so much, Sanam Vakil, I
appreciate it.
Right, Andy Burnham is poised to become Britain's next Prime Minister after an overwhelming show of support from his Labour Party. On the first day of
nominations Burnham secured the backing of 322 lawmakers, just one vote short of a mathematical threshold that would make it impossible for any
other candidate to compete.
Nicknamed the King of the North, Burnham is expected to be officially named Prime Minister next week. But he's already facing backlash for comments he
posted on X, apologizing for Labour's initial response to Israel's actions in Gaza, saying his party didn't get it right and needs to do better.
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ANDY BURNHAM, BRITISH MEMBER OF PARLIAMENT: Let me start by saying the unbearable suffering in Gaza is a scar on our collective conscience. It's
completely unacceptable that innocent Palestinians, including children, continue to be killed.
That there's still a humanitarian crisis with too little aid getting in, and that the Israeli military continues to expand the area it controls in
Gaza. We've got to do more to put pressure on the Israeli government.
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But let's be honest: the UK was too slow to call for a ceasefire. And we must now do more to strengthen our approach, which includes looking at
further sanctions, both on those involved in the violence in Gaza, but also looking at measures to ban trade in goods with illegal settlements.
I like many people, feel passionately about Gaza, and I will do everything I can to work with international partners to stop the suffering, to ensure
the Israeli government adheres to international law, and to keep the prospect of a two-state solution alive. Because this is the only way to
lasting peace for both Israelis and Palestinians.
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ASHER: Burnham speaking there. All right, still to come, nearly a month after Mitch McConnell was rushed to the hospital, we still don't know why?
But we do have a video of that moment when he was transported an ambulance on a stretcher. We'll have a live report on that after the break.
Plus, Les Bleus look -- book a spot rather in the Semi-finals. The action heats up this weekend. We'll run down the matches and what to look for
coming up.
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ASHER: All right, now to a CNN exclusive about a high-profile American Senator whose health conditions remain a mystery. CNN has obtained new
video of emergency responders wheeling Mitch McConnell onto a stretcher and putting him into an ambulance last month.
The Former Senate Majority Leader has been in hospital since the day the video was shot. This is back in mid-June. His team has offered little
information about his health. This was June 14th almost a month ago.
CNN's Annie Grayer joins us live now from Washington with more. So, what do we know? I mean, obviously, this is really alarming. But in the sort of to
respect sort of transparency here, it's important that his aides let the public know what exactly is happening to the Senator? What do we know for
sure at this point, Annie?
ANNIE GRAYER, CNN SENIOR REPORTER: So, what we know after I spoke to one of McConnell's neighbors who had a first-hand account of this is that on the
morning of June 14th, McConnell Street was blocked off by two ambulances, a fire truck, and Capitol Police were surrounded everywhere.
And this neighbor of McConnell's, who I spoke to, said that around 08:30 in the morning, she saw the commotion sort of start on the block. She asked a
Capitol police officer what was going on who told her that there was a medical emergency happening, but wouldn't specify who the responders were
there to tend to.
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And then at around 09:00 a.m. this neighbor of McConnell's saw paramedics carry somebody out of McConnell's home on a stretcher and into an
ambulance. And this person was covered in a blanket, but their feet were bare and exposed.
Now, another neighbor of McConnell's said they saw that it was McConnell specifically on that stretcher. The eye witness who I spoke to didn't see
the face of the person on the stretcher. And this detail just gives us a little bit more information in what has been an entire situation shrouded
in mystery.
Since June 14th, all we know is that Senator has been taken to the hospital and that he is recovering. But we do not know why he went to the hospital
initially or why he still remains there? Now, separately, some EMS audio has emerged where it shows paramedics went to McConnell's home on June 14th
to respond to somebody who was under cardiac arrest and who was -- who needed CPR.
But McConnell's office maintains that the Senator is recovering. Other Republican Senators and leadership, like Senator -- Senate Majority Leader
John Thune, have said that they've spoken to McConnell while he is recovering in the hospital. Thune said he spoke to McConnell for about 20
minutes.
But this whole episode really just brings to light what level of transparency do lawmakers need to share about health conditions? Where is
the line for public officials when dealing with a very sensitive health matter like this one? So, the witness account and video that I obtain just
give us another piece of this still very unanswered puzzle.
ASHER: Annie Grayer live for us there. Thank you so much. All right, one of the strongest storms on the planet is heading to parts of East Asia right
now. People are rushing to stock up on supplies and leaving store shelves empty as they prepare for Typhoon Bavi. CNN Weather is tracking the storm.
Plus, you've seen these video assistant referees throughout the World Cup. Up next, we'll talk to a former referee about how they've impacted the
tournament so far.
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ASHER: All right, welcome back to "One World". I'm Zain Asher in New York. Here are some of the international headlines we are following for you
today. Sources tell CNN that Lorenzo Salgado Araujo was not the target of federal immigration operations before he was shot and killed by an I.C.E.
agent in Texas.
Meantime, Mexico's President said that she's seeking a U.S. criminal investigation related to the deaths of more than a dozen Mexican citizens
in recent months. And two Israeli sources say the Trump Administration does not want Israel involved in U.S. strikes in Iran for fear of losing control
of the war.
But Israel's Defense Minister says that his country is ready to resume fighting even if it has to do so alone. It comes as an American official
says the U.S. is pausing strikes on Iran in order to give diplomacy a chance.
A second person in four days was shot and killed by a U.S. federal task force member. It happened Wednesday in Memphis, Tennessee, while drug
enforcement agents were serving a drug warrant. A statement from U.S. Marshal said the man was shot after pointing a handgun at them.
A later news release was less specific, saying the situation escalated, resulting in an agent firing into a room. It is still under investigation.
And the suspect in the killing of Charlie Kirk said he wishes he hadn't done it. That's according to Tyler Robinson's roommate, who prosecutors --
who told prosecutors rather about the regret in a videotape interview shown in court Thursday? Robertson faces aggravated murder charges, but has not
yet entered a plea.
Wildfires in Southern Spain have killed at least 12 people, with dozens still missing. Around 150 emergency workers are battling the fire near the
Town of Los Gallardos on the Costa de Almeria. Some of the victims are thought to have tried to escape via a dry riverbed, which became a deadly
trap.
The local health emergencies minister says the fires are the most devastating the region has seen. Los Gallardos Mayor called the situation
terrifying. Much of Europe is experiencing extreme temperatures. Emergency workers in France and Spain are also fighting spreading wildfires as well.
Now to Asia, where Typhoon Bavi is threatening parts of the region. The storm, roughly the width of France, is heading across the Pacific Ocean
towards Taiwan. CNN's Derek Van Dam has more on how people are preparing for the storm.
DEREK VAN DAM, CNN METEOROLOGIST: Parts of Asia are bracing for one of the strongest typhoons on Earth this weekend. Typhoon Bavi is expected to bear
down on Taiwan early Saturday morning before making landfall in Japan's Southern Island of Ishigaki in Southeastern China.
Across the region, people are taking precautions ahead of the looming storm. In Taiwan, residents are stocking up on supplies, sometimes emptying
out store shelves. And along the coast, major fishing ports have shut down, and farmers are rushing to protect their crops from damage.
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TU HUA-CHIN, FARMER: Typhoons usually cause fairly serious damage. Last year was particularly bad for us.
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DAM: In Japan, some public parks and beaches appeared closed as authorities stepped up storm preps. The region's All Nippon Airways says they'll cancel
dozens of flights this weekend serving Okinawa's airports. Local business owners are preparing for the worst.
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HIROSHI NOMURA, SHOP OWNER: According to the typhoon forecast, I've heard that this one will be pretty big. I'm a little concerned about whether our
typhoon preparations are enough.
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DAM: Authorities in China have also intensified preparations, deploying personnel to patrol beaches and monitor water levels. Multiple provinces
have upgraded their flood control response to the highest level.
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DAI JINKUI, OFFICER, BRIGADE OF PLA SOUTHERN THEATER COMMAND: Due to continuous heavy rainfall the earthen embankments have been soaked, making
them highly prone to risks such as seepage, piping, landslides, and cracks in the dike body.
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DAM: Bavi comes right on the heels of last week's tropical storm Missax that triggered deadly flooding, rare tornadoes, and a reservoir collapse in
parts of coastal and inland China. Authorities say dozens of people have been killed.
And if the floods weren't dangerous enough, video posted on social media shows snakes swimming in the streets after a local news outlet reported
more than 800 escaped from a breeding farm in Southern China.
China's National Climate Center says the back-to-back storms are just the start of a turbulent month. And it expects up to six typhoons to form in
the North West Pacific and South China Sea by the end of July. Almost doubling the expected average. Derek Van Dam, CNN.
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ASHER: All right, France continues its march towards the World Cup final. Les Bleus had a pretty straightforward Quarterfinal against Morocco after a
2-0 win. They now advance to the Semi-finals. Andy, just a few hours, we'll find out whether they'll face Spain or Belgium.
Then Saturday, it's the last of the Quarterfinals: Norway versus England, followed by Argentina taking on Switzerland. Let's discuss all of the
excitement that's in store for us this weekend with Andy Scholes. Andy, what are you? Which game are you most excited about? Or which matchup,
should I say, are you most excited about?
ANDY SCHOLES, CNN WORLD SPORT: Well, you know, Harry Kane versus Earling Haaland --
ASHER: Of course.
SCHOLES: -- in that England Norway game, right?
ASHER: Yes.
SCHOLES: That's going to be amazing. Any time we get to see Messi at this point, 39-years-old, still going in a World Cup, I always appreciate those
moments, especially what he did in that comeback against Egypt.
But you know, Zain, this is such an amazing tournament, right? One of the reasons why is all of these stars they continue to just show up day after
day. And on Thursday, it was Kylian Mbappe's turn to shine as you know France took on Morocco in the Quarterfinals.
You know, most think France -- this is France's tournament to lose at this point, and they just dominated Morocco. France 22 shots compared to just 5
for Morocco. Mbappe did miss a penalty in the first half of this game, and it was 0-0 at halftime.
But in the 60th minute, Mbappe really coming through with just a fabulous strike for that first goal for France, and then Ousmane Dembele added a
second goal. They won the match 2-0. And listen to what Mbappe had to say after the win when he was asked, is this the best France team ever?
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KYLIAN MBAPPE, FRANCE CAPTAIN: This team is neither world champion nor runner-up, so as things stand, it's not the strongest. It's the one with
the most potential. The one we can most easily envisage a future with, one with so much quality, and it's letting us dream.
But as for the strongest, I've always said that the strongest teams are the ones that win, and until proven otherwise, I don't see a gold trophy
sitting next to me. So, it isn't the strongest team.
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SCHOLES: Well, Mbappe eight goals at this World Cup. He's tied with Messi atop that golden boot race right now. He's got 20 goals in 20 World Cup
matches, which is just incredible. In 17 of those goals, they've come in the second half of those games. Of course, winner in 2018, runner-up in
2022. We'll see if France can get back to the final for a third time in a row.
Now, who will France face next? Well, European Champion Spain. They're going to go up against a Belgium side that really broke the U.S. hearts in
the round of 16, a very much rejuvenated squad under Rudi Garcia, but they've got a tough task ahead, though right?
The 2010 champion spam team, they haven't conceded a goal in their five matches at this tournament thus far. And they're on an incredible 35 match
unbeaten run dating back to March of 2024. We'll see if Belgian can finally in Spain streak now.
Norway, meanwhile, they say a number of their players have actually been suffering from some coughing and wheezing ahead of their first ever World
Cup Quarterfinal against England on Saturday in Miami. England's Harry Kane, he knows all about that.
He hilariously lost his voice in his post-match interview after their round of 16 win over Mexico at the cauldron of noise that is the Azteca. But this
is being billed head-to-head between him and Norway's Manchester City Superstar Erling Haaland, who continues to just rewrite the record books.
He scored 62 goals in 54 games for his country, including seven in this his very first World Cup. And when asked how England plans on stopping him,
Aston Villa's Morgan Rogers. It's being realistic.
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MORGAN ROGERS, ENGLAND MIDFIELDER: Has anyone ever stopped Erling Haaland? Not sure they have, but we're going to try. You're going to have to try. I
think he's such an unbelievable player. The things he does, the numbers he puts up, you're just in awe of how good he is and the level he's at.
We're going to have to maybe try and stop how they play and work on those things and stop how the balls go into him and how he gets his chances
because he's so deadly in front of a goal and we got to be aware of that we got to know that.
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SCHOLES: Yeah. So, Saturdays Zain, England, Norway is the first game. Then Argentina Switzerland is going to be the game the late game. The last World
Cup Day, I'm kind of sad that we have two matches that we can watch, but you know, next week should be fabulous as well.
I mean, if we're heading towards you know an England, Argentina, Spain, France Semifinals, I mean, it's so great. But no way, no way, no matter how
you say it. I mean, this World Cup has been just fabulous.
ASHER: Yeah, and the fact that Spain has not conceded a goal that is incredible.
SCHOLES: Yes.
ASHER: They have not allowed anybody to score against them. Yeah, just so much. And you're right about that game tomorrow with England versus Norway.
We'll see. Andy Scholes is live for us. Thank you so much.
All right, as we head into the second quarter final game between Spain and Belgium, refereeing, including the video assistant referee has remained a
controversial part of this tournament, say the least. The inconsistency of rules between different matches has led to confusion, and sometimes rage.
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Both England boss Thomas Tuchel, Egypt's Hossam Hassan have argued against decisions in the officiating. Then there was the infamous red card that led
to U.S. President Donald Trump getting involved, from allowed to disallowed gold to contentious cards and penalty choices. Is the VAR hurting or
helping the referees?
To discuss all of this, the impact of VAR is Former FIFA and Premier League Referee Mark Halsey, and he joins us from Spain. We've just been talking
about Spain. Mark, thank you so much for being with us. I have to say, of all the jobs in sports, I think that being a referee, especially in the
World Cup, has got to go down as one of the most difficult, most challenging jobs because you really have to be OK with not being liked,
right?
You have to be OK with 80,000 people thinking that you've made the wrong decision and you have to have the mental toughness to still stick to your
guns. Just talk to us about the job and what you think of VAR and the role that VAR has played, particularly during this World Cup?
MARK HALSEY, FORMER FIFA, PREMIER LEAGUE REFEREE: Yeah, yeah. Good afternoon. Yeah, listen, I used to love refereeing, and you got to go out
there and referee with a smile on your face. But you've got to get that respect from the players. And getting that respect from the players is your
communication with the players, your accuracy and decision making.
And you know making sure you get the small not only the big decisions but the small decisions. And it's about protecting the players and awareness of
what is going on around you and nipping things in the bud. You do that, and you get the players on your side. It becomes easier.
And when you do make little errors, players forgive you. I mean, regarding VAR, we've seen some inconsistencies in interpretation of what's a foul?
What's not a foul? And I've got to say, you know, Egypt had every right to complain against when they played Argentina the other night, because you
know if you look at the for me VAR is good.
It's good for the game, but if it's used correctly, and at the moment we're seeing inconsistencies and VAR not being used correctly. Now, if you look
at the Martinez, the disallowed goal for Egypt, most probably the goal of the tournament, which was disallowed. We do not want to see goals like that
disallowed.
Should VAR have got involved in that little incident with Martinez? It's a contact sport, in my opinion. No, VAR should not have got involved in that
incident. Why? Because it wasn't a clear and obvious error. It was subjective. But once they do get involved in that, and then obviously the
goal is disallowed, then move the game forward, you know, quite a way into stoppage time at the other end when Salah goes into the pony box, slight
contact.
Then VAR for consistency have got to get involved in that incident. And that's why you know, and that game for the 90 minutes, all we asked for is
the referee and the officials to be consistent within those 90 minutes. On that game, they wasn't consistent within those 90 minutes.
Wasn't the fault of the referee with the Martinez because he didn't see that as a foul, and I would have agreed with him. But VAR should not have
got involved in that incident.
ASHER: So, you're saying that essentially there needs to be consistency in terms of when VAR is used, when it's not used, when the referee just goes
on their own judgment.
HALSEY: Absolutely. Listen, IFAB protocol, VAR will only intervene if it's a clear and obvious error. Clear and obvious error. And what we're seeing
at the World Cup, not just in in this this World Cup, we see it in the Premier League, we see it in all the leagues around the world. They're
being too forensic.
VAR wasn't brought in to be forensic. It was brought in for the clear and obvious error. And what we're seeing is VAR officials re refereeing the
game. That's not what it's there for. And it's obvious to me there needs more training and education regarding VAR.
ASHER: Mark, how can you -- how do you know with certainty? Because the whole thing is so subjective, right? That's what makes being a referee so
difficult. Because there's so much subjectivity in it. So how do you know when there is a clear and obvious error? Different people would say
different things.
HALSEY: Well, no. Well, OK, we go back to earlier in the tournament, France v Senegal, Mbappe's wiped out by Sarr yeah. Do you remember the incident in
the penalty box? That is a clear and obvious error.
Now the Iranian Australian referee, I think, was Faghani. He's gone and looked at the monitor and come. Why on earth? He's -- I mean he's not
giving a penalty. But that for me is a clear and obvious error. We go back all those years ago to that famous Henry hand ball in a play-off.
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I think it was a World Cup playoff game. I think it was with the Republic of Ireland, where he deliberately handled the ball to knock it into the
path of one of his colleagues to put the ball into the back of the net. They're clear and obvious errors.
You look at the England, the Harry Kane, when we had the penalty given against us against Mexico the other night on Monday night. Now there's two
plays, both feet are up, both players have gone to clear the ball. That is not a clear and obvious error.
OK, so again, VAR gets involved in that, they should never get involved in that, because again, it's subjective, and it's not a clear and obvious
error. It's contact.
ASHER: I mean, it's interesting. Yeah, it's interesting because you now have goals that are disallowed that 100 years ago would have been perfectly
fine. So, there is this sort of forensic, as you point out, this over sort of forensic analysis. Just quickly, your thoughts on Folarin Balogun being
given that red card in the sort of USA game?
HALSEY: Yeah. Listen, for me, although it is unfortunate, it's a red card. When you see the replay, I like -- when I watched that game. I saw the
replay, and I set myself back. That's going to be a recommend as a review, and it's going to be a red card.
And so, I don't think it's got any complaints whatsoever about being shown a red card for that challenge. Yes, it was unfortunate. Unfortunately, in
the laws of the game, law 12,000 misconducts, it doesn't say if the player is unfortunate.
It says a careless challenge is a free kick only. A reckless challenge is a free kick and a yellow card. A challenge that endangers the player's safety
with excessive force must be sanctioned as a red card. Now that met the criteria in law 12,000 misconduct for me.
And I was absolutely shocked when it was downgrading. Balogun did not get suspension. Where we see England's Quansah get a two-match ban. And don't
get me wrong, Quansah deserved to be sent off. That was a red card for me as well.
ASHER: Right, Mark Halsey I could talk to you about this for many more minutes, but I am up against the clock. Thank you so much for joining us.
We'll see how England plays tomorrow. Very exciting.
HALSEY: Yeah, come on, England!
ASHER: Three lions. Let's see. All right; we'll be right back with more after this short break.
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ASHER: Nigerian Singer-Songwriter Joeboy has made his mark on the music industry, known for blending Afro Pop and R&B. He is now using his platform
to help others through his Young Legend Foundation. In an interview with CNN's Larry Madowo, this week's change maker encourages young people to
focus on education.
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LARRY MADOWO, CNN CORRESPONDENT: You set up a foundation, Young Legend Foundation.
JOEBOY, NIGERIAN MUSICIAN: Yeah.
MADOWO: What is the main activity that you do with this?
JOEBOY: So, I'd say the main activity for -- foundation is for encouraging education in young people, because I'd say we've gotten to that point where
like reading a book is not termed as cool anymore to a large extent. Like being a banker, being an accountant, being a lawyer is something that is
not as cool as it used to be anymore.
MADOWO: People want to be famous. Everybody wants to be influencer.
JOEBOY: Yeah, and I say like I don't think it's right for everybody to just like really, really lean in one direction and all of that. And while
foundation is just about encouraging people to like actually like focus on education. I know like there's the art and all of that, but there's other
stuff too.
Like we need doctors, we need accountants, we need lawyers. And the reason, the major reason I started it was because back in the day when I was young,
I used to hold school fees a lot. They used to chase me back up, say, hey, I owe school fees, go back home, and all of that.
And it's just something I decided to do for my inner child. Like, OK, I'm setting up a foundation where people that can't afford to pay school fees,
like we do, like we put out a link and we pick like 20 people or 30 people and we pay for that year for them.
MADOWO: So, every year you're offering scholarships to people who are like you when you're growing up and could not afford school fees.
JOEBOY: Yeah.
MADOWO: And what's been the impact so far?
JOEBOY: It's been beautiful to see. It's been beautiful to see. I get so many texts like, you, thank you, thank you for paying my school fees. Some
people even send me like the results that, oh, this is my GP. And it's just like, it warms my heart, like to just see that happen, because of like the
way it was for me when I grew up.
I won't say oh I was some poor kid or whatnot, but I used to owe school fees. I'll be honest about that. I owe school fees a lot. You know, the
time it was like a thing for me, and I understood what it did to my mental.
MADOWO: If everybody wants to be famous now, and obviously Afrobeat is one pack to that. What have you learned in this industry, you tell somebody
starting out?
JOEBOY: Consistency is so important. Like you have to know your lives. Are you doing this to be famous? Are you doing this to be rich? Are you doing
this because you love doing this? And the fame and money is just an added bonus.
So, I think it's just about honest about what you really want. So, like, you need to really have a strong sense of self and success to be able to
keep your mind strong and your mind focused on your own journey.
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ASHER: In the Dead-of-Night, under a police escort, the Bayeux Tapestry arrived in Britain after 1000-year absence. The 11th-century world-famous
artwork is on display at the British Museum between September and July 2027.
A top-secret operation moved the artifact from its permanent home across the English Channel from Northwestern France, created 960 years ago. The
tapestry presents the events leading up to the Battle of Hastings in 1066, stretching to 70 meters long, made of dyed wool, embroidered onto a linen
background. All right, stay with CNN, I'll have much more "One World" after this short break.
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