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Strong Performance on Wall Street; Voters Across U.S. Head to Polls on Super Tuesday; Apple versus FBI on Capitol Hill; Protests at Donald Trump Super Tuesday Rally; Scott Kelly Prepares to Leave International Space Station; Clinton: GOP Rivals Have "Deeply Troubling" Views. Aired 4- 5p ET
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RICHARD QUEST, HOST: Closing bell. What a very strong performance. Good lord what a very strong performance, up 341 points on Wall Street, a gain
of 2%. We'll go into the reasons during the course of the program. And now -- well, I think we can call that an enthusiastic gavel which brings
trading to an end. Start them young and they will invest for life. It's Super Tuesday it is the first of March.
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QUEST: State by state, vote by vote, a lot is at stake for the U.S. Presidential candidates on this Tuesday, the 1st.
Not exactly the Apple of the FBI. The fight over security is well and truly on Capitol Hill.
And it really is a case of little bricks and big profit. Lego's chief executive tells me they're building a solid future.
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QUEST: An extremely busy hour ahead. I'm Richard Quest and I mean business.
Good evening. It is Super Tuesday in the United States and we are one hour away from the first exit polls and our first indication on how this day is
going to reshape the race for the White House.
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QUEST: Today is the biggest single day of the election season so far. There are 12 states and one territory where voters are making their stakes and
their plays for who they want to be the nominee for their respective parties. The candidates are making their final pitches.
Bernie Sanders is staying in his home state of Vermont, while Hillary Clinton is looking for support in Minnesota and Florida. That's the same
path that Marco Rubio is taking. Donald Trump is hitting the states of Florida, Ohio and Kentucky. And perhaps not surprisingly, the home Senator
Ted Cruz is focusing his energies on Texas.
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QUEST: Now, those travel plans and the way they are moving around the United States is going to give you a very good clue to the candidate's
strategies on this Super Tuesday.
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QUEST: Look at the electoral map and you'll see. So we start -- this is the Super Tuesday map. These are the states, everything from Massachusetts in
the east up to Alaska way up in the northwest.
Beginning with the Republicans; there are 595 delegates up for grabs across these 11 states. Rubio and Cruz, it's now or never to show they can take on
Donald Trump. So let's look at where they're going to be, remember I just told you that Ted Cruz is going to be in his home state of Texas. That's
where he will spend all his time. He has to take Texas. Without Texas for Cruz, it's game over.
Rubio isn't under the same pressure, at least not yet. So putting up where Marco Rubio is. He to some extent is playing for all the grabs but he's
really looking ahead to the winner takes all states, those like Florida, which have still to come.
As for the other, Dr. Carson and Kasich, they just need enough support to hang on a little bit longer.
And Donald Trump, well, frankly, he is just looking to see how much he can clean up. Whether it's Minnesota in the north or some of the states like
Arkansas, Tennessee, maybe even across to Virginia where he's already showing some very strong resilience. Even up into the northwest, the more
liberal states.
On the Democratic side, there are many more delegates. There are 859 that are up for grabs. Where are they going to go? Hillary Clinton; let's start
with the former secretary. She is hoping to press home her advantage and that means perhaps in the south, Texas, 222. She needs to collect the
delegates there before going to northern and mid-western states where economic advantage of Sanders is more. She could also perhaps look to
Arkansas to Tennessee and other states. Perhaps even as far down as the Alabamas and the Georgia's.
Bernie Sanders says he has a good shot in Minnesota right in the north. Oklahoma and Colorado in the mid-west and further west. But he must, well
he will almost certainly take his home state of Vermont and Massachusetts. If Bernie Sanders cannot take Massachusetts, then it really does become --
it's almost game over before we go much further. Put all of this (inaudible) together and Mark Preston is the executive editor for CNN
politics.
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QUEST: Mark, forgive me doing your job for you across the map. I hope I haven't embarrassed you. But it is all to play for.
MARK PRESTON, CNN POLITICS EXECUTIVE EDITOR: It is. Listen Richard, it's very confusing certainly for our viewers around the world who are trying to
figure out how this all plays out here in U.S. politics. But when we wake up tomorrow morning a couple of things we'll be looking for; one is
momentum and one is bragging rights.
Let's start with the Republicans first; if Donald Trump is able to go into the south as well as the northeast and he is able to win those states or
certainly win a majority of those states, then not only will he have the momentum at his back certainly coming out of a big victory in Nevada, in
South Carolina, and New Hampshire, he will have won several contests on March 1st.
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PRESTON: He'll also have momentum going into March 8th and then onwards to March 15th. Ted Cruz now needs to win Texas. Not only for bragging rights
but if he is not able to win his own state, many people will say he needs to get out of the race. Marco Rubio needs to have a strong showing to at
least show the Republican establishment, Richard, that he is the candidate to take on Donald Trump. On the Democratic side --
QUEST: Well, hang on -- let me jump in here - let me jump in here.
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QUEST: Because what's fascinating about what you've just said, Mark, is the way in which Donald Trump basically it doesn't matter where on the map we
put him, north, south, east, west, somewhere in the middle, he gets this phenomenal level of support across the electoral map.
PRESTON: He does. And we should point out not only has he won in the northeast already in New Hampshire, he's won in the south, in South
Carolina, and he has won out west in Nevada. So Donald Trump right now, what he's looking to try to do is to try to shut the door on any attempt by
the Republican establishment to try and shut him down. But Donald Trump is -- certainly has wind at his back and we'll see how he does. But right now,
if we're to believe the polls, Richard, we think he's going to have a very good night.
QUEST: So back to your Democrats, I know you were heading to the Democrats. Is Bernie Sanders, he says he's going to go all the way to the Convention.
It's either (inaudible) to even intend to go that far or he's just being a nuisance and muddying the waters. I guess that depends on who you support.
PRESTON: No doubt. And certainly the Clinton campaign assuming that they do very well tonight, are going to look at Bernie Sanders as a nuisance.
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PRESTON: He can go a long way because of way the that the Democratic Party here in the United States decides who their nominee is that they split
delegates all the way through. So Bernie Sanders could literally not have a mathematical chance of winning the nomination but it could force Hillary
Clinton to go into the month of May perhaps just to try to officially win the nomination, which would allow Bernie Sanders along the way to pick up
delegates and allow him to have a louder voice at the convention in Philadelphia in July.
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QUEST: Mark, we've got so many more days, weeks and months where you and I will be getting to grips with this. We're very grateful that you're helping
us understand it all. Thank you sir.
PRESTON: Thank you sir.
QUEST: Mark Preston joining us. Now, Tuesday's election could bring a defining moment for the Republican nominees.
Marco Rubio has a losing record. Zero for four in early state's elections. He needs a strong turnout to gain momentum. On the other hand, Ted Cruz has
said this is the most important day in the entire election. The Texas Senator must win his home state of Texas if he's to stand any chance.
And then Donald Trump comes into Super Tuesday with 49% of Republican voters support. The polls likely to win Massachusetts, Tennessee, Alabama,
winning all or most of the 11, it basically seals the deal for all of this. So we need analysis of what it means as to who wins.
Tom Coburn is a former Republican Senator from Oklahoma which is taking part in Super Tuesday. Endorsed Marco Rubio, criticized, slammed Donald
Trump's campaign as a fabrication. The former senator joins me now live from Tulsa, Oklahoma. Sir, we're very honored to have you. I need to ask
you --
TOM COBURN, FORMER REPUBLICAN SENATOR OKLAHOMA: Thank you.
QUEST: If Marco Rubio -- I know you're supporting it but if Trump does become the nominee, will you support him?
COBURN: Well, I think it depends on if he ever answers any questions. He has not answers any questions. What's at stake right now is the history of
the Republican Party.
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COBURN: Does it stand for limited government? Does it stand for opportunity for everybody? Does it stand for the rule of law? You know, does it stand
for passing on to our children an opportunity that's not going to be passed on? So the question really isn't about who wins, the question is what
happens if Donald Trump actually wins the nomination because my thought would be you know, this isn't going to be the Republican Party, that most
of us have joined.
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QUEST: It's not mathematically impossible but you and I are men of the world, and we know the reality of politics, it's virtually unlikely that
Rubio can win this.
COBURN: You know, I might agree with you after March 15th. I'm not sure I'm ready to agree with that analysis yet. If he wins Oklahoma and has strong
showings in lots of other states, and comes in second, and collects a lot of delegates, you know this is going to be really a mess. And that's great
for America because you get to hear all sorts of viewpoints. But what's not happening in the race in this country is the same level of journalism
directed towards most of the candidates versus what's directed toward Mr. Trump. And, that's because he's an entertainer.
You know and he's flamboyant. And so we haven't seen - you know what my problem with Donald Trump is he hasn't answered any questions about how
he's going to accomplish this braggadocios positions that he has.
QUEST: And he doesn't need to, Sir. I hate to be -- I say with respect --
COBURN: He's going to need to to have my support, he certainly is.
QUEST: The public's not with you on this. They seem to be and I --
COBURN: --Well, they may not be. That's what's great about America, you know. That's what's so great and unique about our country is we may elect,
we may nominate Donald Trump and he may win and then we're going to see what happens. This is still a country of great experiment.
QUEST: Now, the Republican Party, and I think you and I might agree on this, they are to some extent the authors of their own misfortune into
getting into this mess in the way they rewrote the primary rules back in 2014 supposedly to allow a front-runner to get the nomination quicker with
less (inaudible) warfare, but look what it's done.
COBURN: Well, again, you know it has made a difference this time, but I'm not sure it wouldn't have make the same difference. The fact is the
American people are totally upset with their federal government, and to a lesser degree, their state governments. And they're ready for a change. And
even if it's a Donald Trump change, they're ready for a change. They're ready for somebody that will speak the truth. The problem is nobody is
talking about the real problems that America faces.
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COBURN: Nobody's talking about the unfunded liabilities which are $142 trillion. That's $1 million per taxpayer. Nobody's talking about the $19
trillion in debt except Marco Rubio. Nobody's talking about the solutions to fix that which is an Article 5 Convention that our founders gave us when
we want to reign in the Federal government.
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COBURN: So what we have is everything focused on the politics of today, nobody thinking about the future and who can win this contest. It will
remain to be seen if we have real leadership again in America.
QUEST: Sir, we're grateful that you've come in and talked to us, give us the insight of an experienced man like yourself in U.S. politics. We
appreciate it.
COBURN: Well, thank you very much.
QUEST: Thank you.
A former U.S. Secretary of State and current U.S. Senator now battling for Super Tuesday votes in their quest for the Democratic party's nomination.
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QUEST: The latest in the race for the White House. And it is all about this White House. This house which we've managed to build with Lego, because
we're also going to be talking about Lego during the course of this program.
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QUEST: A new poll suggests a Democrat could beat Donald Trump in a general election. It doesn't matter which Democrat. As the CNN/ORC poll who asked
U.S. voters which of the candidates would get their support right now in a hypothetical matchup between the two.
Both Democratic hopefuls, Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders, come out on top. They beat, they beat Donald trump 52-44 in the case of Hillary
Clinton.
The results, though were much tighter against the other top two Republicans. It's a similar story for the matchup between the Democrat,
Bernie Sanders, and Trump. They get a bigger gap, tops some 55 to 43%. He also comes out ahead of the other two top Republicans, Marco Rubio and Ted
Cruz.
CNN's Brianna Keilar is with me from Sanders headquarters in Essex Junction in Vermont. A bit brisk I would imagine the weather is up there at this
time of the year. But listen, the weather may be brisk, the politics are very hot and Sanders says he's in this all the way to the convention
whatever happens.
BRIANNA KEILAR, CNN SENIOR POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT: Yes, that's exactly right, Richard. He is saying that he is looking towards the convention in
Philadelphia this summer. But of course today is expected to be very pivotal or it could be depending on how he performs.
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KEILAR: If you look at the polls, Hillary Clinton is doing better in a number of these Super Tuesday states. There are 11 states up for grabs. And
if you've been paying attention to American politics, you see we have a contest here, a contest there, another contest. This is sort of this giant
day where there are so many delegates, hundreds of delegates at stake which are key to the nominating process.
I also think though a lot of people are looking at Bernie Sanders and saying well of course he's saying you have to push until the end. A lot of
the candidates would say that. But at the same time you know, they might be saying, you know is he really going to do that? There's also another series
of contests March 15th and we'll really have to see how this plays out, how he performs, if he thinks he still has a pathway.
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QUEST: At what point does the Democratic party quietly, if one can say anything quietly to Bernie Sanders, at what point do they quietly take him
aside and say, look, come on, you know we know Trump's going to be the nominee, we need to unify this party behind Hillary Clinton, otherwise, we
are going to lose.
KEILAR: You know, the question I think is would that even matter, because he's someone who says I'm outside of the establishment. That isn't
necessarily something that he puts a lot of value in. You'll remember back in 2008 it came to this time where it seemed like it was time for Hillary
Clinton to step aside and certainly the party apparatus, the establishment would have much more influence I think on her in a situation like that.
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KEILAR: But the other thing that Bernie Sanders has in his corner is the money. He raised $42 million last month. He's been burning through it
certainly. But that's a lot of money. And he pulled in $6 million just yesterday, the final day of the month. Richard that was akin to what he was
able to bring in the day after -- the day following his win in New Hampshire.
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KEILAR: So he's got the money in his corner and as long as that doesn't dry up, he can keep going. He'll have to make the choice, does he want to shape
this race or you know might he end up spoiling it a little bit, depending on how things go today and March 15th.
QUEST: Keep warm, Brianna. Keep warm up in Vermont.
KEILAR: I'll try.
QUEST: As we wait and as we look at this, let me just tell you that the exit poll, the first exit poll that we're going to see comes out in just
about 40 minutes from now. You can see the timer on the clock. 41 minutes and 2 seconds.
There's another battle and it's just a titanic. It's between Apple and it's between Apple and the FBI.
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QUEST: It's over the right to get into someone's phone. The data, the security, the issues, the politics, "Quest Means Business."
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QUEST: The high profile fight over privacy and security between Apple and the FBI is now being played out in front of lawmakers on Capitol Hill in
Washington.
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QUEST: There Apple's General Counsel, Bruce Sewell, began testifying just a short time ago giving his version of events. The FBI Director James Comey
has already spoken on behalf of the bureau. He told the committee it's the FBI's job to sound the alarm when it sees a security blind spot.
JAMES COMEY, DIRECTOR, FBI: The tools you are counting on us to use to keep you safe are becoming less effective. It is not our job to tell the
American people how to resolve that problem, The FBI is not some alien force imposed upon America from Mars. We're owned by the American people.
We only use the tools that are given to us under the law. It's -- our job is simply to tell people there is a problem. Everybody should care about
it, everybody should want to understand. If there are warrant proof spaces in American life, what does that mean and what are the costs and how do we
think about that?
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QUEST: Joining me to put this in perspective in New York is Steve Rogers, a former military intelligence officer who served on the FBI's joint
terrorism task force. And with me from Memphis in Tennessee is the anti- virus software creator John McAfee. And we are delighted to have you, sir with us.
To both of you gentlemen the issues haven't really changed since the whole furor began. It really does come down to one of do we give or does the
courts give the FBI the right to get into this phone or indeed any phone. Because I think Steve Rogers you have to accept, if you do it once, the
authorities will be back to do it again.
STEVE ROGERS, FORMER FBI OFFICER: Richard, there has been a change, and the changes were at war. I could buy the privacy issue if this was minor
criminal activity but we're at war and our national security is at stake here. So this is what's changed and this is why we need the cooperation of
Apple to proceed with this.
QUEST: John, he's got a valid point hasn't he?
JOHN MCAFEE, CREATOR ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE: You know, no he does not. This is not a matter of privacy versus security sir, you know I'm certain Mr.
Rogers, I've heard a great deal about you and good luck to you, that you are unexcelled in the area of information gathering and intelligence. I on
the other hand have spent my entire life in computer security. This is not an issue of privacy versus security. It is an issue of how you want to
access the phone. The FBI is asking for a master key. I have been in this business my entire life, there has never been a single instance of a master
key or a back door being placed in software that was not accessed within a matter of weeks by foreign agents or black hat hackers. There is simply no
way sir, no way to keep this within the FBI or within Apple. There will be dozens of programmers working on this thing.
ROGERS: You know, years ago, I was on a navy base working with two Japanese naval officers and we were talking about technology. And one of them turned
to me and said you know while American kids are playing Nintendo, we're building them. The point is is that at one point in time, the Chinese, the
Russians, they're all going to get this technology.
I think if we could get it first and safeguard it yes, but we're talking about the lives of the American people. Not about a burglar, not about
someone who's involved in minor criminal activity, but the lives of the American people. And I get the Privacy Act, believe me, I do. But, I also
believe in common sense and common sense dictates, look, if we've got a way to get these terrorists, let's do it.
QUEST: John?
MCAFEE: Well, Mr. Rogers, I didn't mention privacy as the issue here, I mentioned security and safety for America.
The FBI was hacked a month ago by a 15-year-old boy who walked off with thousands of personnel records including undercover agents and you're
telling me you're going to keep this safe? You can't sir, it is not impossible. We cannot keep things like this safe. We stopped doing this in
the 90s.
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QUEST: Well hang on, let me join - let me join -
MCAFEE: -- because we couldn't keep them safe.
QUEST: OK, John, but Apple has managed to keep its propriety software safe. Apple has managed to keep its IOS safe, so let's just say -- let's just say
you have a system whereby half the key is held by the FBI, half the key is held by Apple, what's wrong with that?
MCAFEE: Well here's the problem here. You're saying that they've kept their operating system safe, from what? No-one's trying to steal their
operating system, you'd have to build the hardware for it to run on. It's not -- there's no one looking for that. However, everybody's looking for a
key that will unlock every iPhone.
ROGERS: And eventually - and eventually - eventually someone's going to get that key. But I want to go back to this phrase you're using, keeping Apple
safe, this system safe.
I want to talk about keeping the American people safe, and if by golly, Apple could help out, then let's do it. OK. I understand your position, I
understand the privacy position but I also understand we need to help our national security agencies.
QUEST: What do you -
MCAFEE: But you're not helping the American people Mr. Rogers, if in fact -
ROGERS: Who says - who says?
MCAFEE: I'm telling you within a matter of weeks -
ROGERS: Well who cares? That's what it's all about is helping the American people -
MCAFEE: No, I didn't say who cares, I said who says I believe the believe the majority of the American people want to be safe.
QUEST: Let me ask you Mr. Rogers, what do you do -
MCAFEE: Well of course we do, but we want to be safe also from hackers getting into our telephones, stealing our money, our credit cards and our
IDs. Watching our daughter while they're in the bathroom good lord, sir, this is the problem -
ROGERS: And Richard, they have done that.
MCAFEE: So what are you -- you are weighing, I'm sorry.
QUEST: Gentlemen, I'm going, the bell was I ask the next question. What about this argument that says, and this is the argument that if Steve
Rogers - if the U.S. gets its way, the FBI gets its way, then soon China simply comes up with a legitimate court order and says our court has said
we want it too.
Oh, and by the way, here's a court order from North Korea such as it might be, oh and another court order, Germany would like, and the U.K. and before
long, every country is coming up with valid court orders for Apple to do the same thing.
ROGERS: All right, I believe that therein lies your national security issue. I don't believe there's a court in this country that will allow a
foreign country to get that. However, saying that, Richard, I believe they'll get this information, this technology before they need a court
order.
QUEST: John, the final word to you, sir, do you accept -- do you accept that if this goes all the way to the Supreme Court and the Supreme Court
votes that Apple loses, the FBI wins, Apple has to provide the necessary software, has to do under the Rule of Law that which it's ordered to do?
MCAFEE: Then that would be a tragic day for America, sir. Mr. Rogers continually says well we will at least have the software first before the
foreign agencies get it. Well if you don't have the key, nobody gets it, and we're safe from the foreign agencies. There are hundreds of millions of
people using the iPhone. We are all at risk if the FBI gets its way. And there are many ways that they can get access to this. I've offered for free
to give them access to the phone. There are tons of ways to do it, sir. And if the FBI does not have the capability, then my heart is saddened.
ROGERS: How about we work together? How about there is a happy medium somehow, some way? Maybe the FBI and you all can work together.
QUEST: Gentleman, I thank you both for joining me and I think that we could all agree, a reasoned, respectful and decent debate that we have enjoyed.
Thank you for you both, for joining us today.
MCAFEE: Thank you Mr. Rogers.
QUEST: As we continue, it's "Quest Means Business." back to an unreasonable, an uncivilized, and (inaudible) debate, it's going to be more
of the U.S. Presidential election and Donald trump is giving a speech at the moment, we'll be back in a moment.
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[16:31:16] QUEST: Hello, I'm Richard Quest. More QUEST MEANS BUSINESS in just a moment. We're going to be live at the Trump rally in Louisville,
Kentucky, to hear what Trump's been saying.
And Lego's chief executive now he's going to tell me brick and flicks they go well together before any of that.
This is CNN and here on this network the news always comes first.
Twenty-nine minutes to go and the first exit polls on Super-Tuesday in the United States. Voting is taking place in 12 states on this key day in the
race for the White House in regards to Hillary Clinton and Republican Donald Trump are so far estimated as the front runners.
A top major general says Russia is helping the Syrian President, Bashar al- Assad turn the refugee crisis into a weapon against the West.
Speaking to U.S. lawmakers, General Phillip Breedlove says, Russia's air campaign is creating a flow of migrants in an attempt to overwhelm the
European structure.
Osama Bin Laden left a personal fortune of almost $30 million in his will. Documents have just been released having been found at the time of his
death five years ago. His will was written in the 1990s and stated that he wanted the money to be spent on jihad.
The director of the FBI has told Congress that the bureau does not want a backdoor to the iPhone. James Comey told the U.S. House Judiciary
Committee that its demand for Apple to break a San Bernardino terrorist iPhone is a specific case. Still he acknowledged if the government wins
those requests might keep coming.
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JAMES COMEY, FBI DIRECTOR: We don't see this way. You know there are issues about backdoors. This about -- there's already a door on that
iPhone. Essentially we're asking Apple to take the vicious guard dog away. Let us try and pick the lock. The later phone, as I understand the 6 and
after, there aren't doors. So there isn't going to be, can you take the guard dog away and let us pick the lock.
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QUEST: The NASA astronaut Scott Kelly is getting ready to begin his trip back to work. He spent nearly a year at the international space station.
It's the longest that any U.S. astronaut has stayed in space. He'll head back on a Russian Soyuz Spacecraft, and is due to land just a few hours
from now in a Kazakhstan desert.
Donald Trump was giving a rally and there's been a small rumpus. This time it's in Louisville, Kentucky and CNN Chris Frates is there and joins us
now. What happened?
CHRIS FRATES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well Richard, there's been a couple of protesters who have been thrown out so far. We saw some Bernie Sanders
protesters thrown out. We say another groups of about 20 or 30 protesters thrown out as well with signs like we will overcome Donald Trump and
fascism is un-American. So these are the kinds of recent protests that you often see in Trump event. You see the crowd turning on those protesters.
Behind me you can hear Donald Trump shouting, "Get out. Get them out of here." That is not anything out of the usual for a lot of these protests,
Richard.
And I'll tell you it's interesting that he is here in Kentucky. He started his day in Ohio. Neither Ohio nor Kentucky voting today on Super Tuesday
in American. Ohio doesn't vote until March 15th. Kentucky not voting until Saturday. So Donald Trump feeling very confident about today's
results. Already looking ahead to future contests taking place at Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, along the way.
[16:35:00] And saving and a special nod for Secretary Clinton. Saying she's not strong enough to be the President of the United States. So
perhaps here Donald Trump already looking forward to future where he's the Republican nominee and Hillary Clinton is the Democratic nominee.
And I tell you people here they waited in line around the block, Richard. It was raining out here in Louisville. The waited around the block at the
Convention Center to get in. A very excited crowd. Very happy to see Donald Trump as well, Richard.
QUEST: Thanks Chris, stay with us, we're going to listen to Donald Trump for a second or two.
DONALD TRUMP, U.S. REPUBLICIAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: And I'm not saying this for politics or anything else, Donald Trump love clean coal, I love
clean coal. Obama has decimated the coal industry, decimated it. And we're going to bring the coal industry back, folks. We're going to bring
it back.
QUEST: Chris is this speech the usual Donald Trump smorgasbord of every issue?
FRATES: OK, you get a lot of stream of conscientiousness here with Donald Trump. Here he's talking about clean coal. He's also talking about trade.
He's talking about jobs. He's talking about making sure of course America wins again. That we're going to win so much its going tired of winning
here in America. So what you hear a lot is a kind of stream of conscientiousness where he goes with the flow. If he gets interrupted by
protester he doesn't let it shake him. And now you hear him talking about Hillary Clinton.
QUEST: I just said Donald Trump, thank you -- Chris Frates, thank you for joining us, from Louisville, Kentucky as I was once taught, is how it's
pronounced.
Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio, not they both need to prove they can win against him. And Rubio is especially been after Trump from every angle.
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MARCO RUBIO, U.S. REPUBLICIAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Donald Trump will be an embarrassment to America. Will be an embarrassment to anyone who
supported him. What he will do to our foreign policy will embarrass everyone in this room. Anyone who's supporting him now. This can't happen
and if any state knows that it's Minnesota. Because of the experience you had.
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QUEST: Joining me now is Jason Rose the senior advisor to Marco Rubio, he's live from Washington. Jason is Marco Rubio's decision to go negative,
to through insults, to get into the dirt. Whatever we want to describe it as. Is he doing it willingly with enthusiasm and verve, or is he doing it
because it's the only way to attack Donald Trump?
JASON ROSE, SENIOR ADVISOR TO MARCO RUBIO: Well unfortunately I think we're in a situation where it's a strategy of last resort. You know, for
the entire campaign Marco has run as very issues based campaign focused on what he would do for the country. He's avoided criticizing any of the
other candidates in the field to try to focus on their inadequacies in some way. And to talk about what he wants to do. But unfortunately Donald
Trump for nine months has basically gotten this process without anyone seriously vetting him. And it's not just the behavior. I mean this is
behavior I would accept or tolerate from my six year old, but somehow we have a large group of voters in America that will accept it.
But the media really hasn't vetted him in any meaningful way at the same time. I mean when Marco attacked him Thursday night for the three fraud
lawsuits that he's faced, because of Trump University. That's the first time that discussion has really happened in a meaningful way.
QUEST: OK. So how does -- Senator Rubio -- how does he win this? Look the numbers are against him. It seem as if the trend is against him. I'm
not saying is mathematically impossible to do it, but tell me sir, looking at the states, how he wins.
ROSE: Well I don't think there's any doubt that Marco is the underdog in this situation and that Donald Trump has been the 800 pound gorilla
throughout most of this process. Things that would have put any mortal candidate in the grave, have only seemed to buoy him along the way in this
thing.
You know, our strategy is very simple. Is to come out of tonight very clearly the number two choice amongst the field to become the alternative
to Donald Trump. And to turn this into a two person race. A lot of votes are at stake tonight. A lot of delegates are at stake tonight, and we've
got to turn that into wins in this process, but we've got to now, I think, play to how we amass as many delegates as we can. Try to stop him in the
primary and caucus process. And then if we have to fight at convention.
QUEST: OK, but if Carson, Kasich, and Cruz decide to be bloody minded and go all the way. Then you really are literally splitting the opposition and
therefore Trump come through the center and wins. I mean, you know, I'm telling you anything that everybody isn't already saying. That's
mathematically how you lose.
[16:40:00] ROSE: Listen, it's why we are in the position that we are in. You know, for all of Donald Trump's braggadocio, if you take the four
states that he won in, you know, his average margin of victory is 33 percent. And he may mock these numbers, but 67 percent didn't vote for
him. You know, looking down the road at what this means to the Republican Party, 35 percent of Republicans in the CNN poll that came out last night
said they will not vote for Donald Trump. And in the head-to-head against Hillary Clinton, Hillary beats him by eight points. So folks that are
voting for Donald Trump today and in the future primaries and caucuses are effectively voting for Hillary Clinton.
QUEST: So I'm going to ask you sir, personally, please humor me for this question. If Trump is the nominee, do you support him? Do you not vote?
Or do you do something perhaps unthinkable and go to the other side?
ROSE: Well listen, I can't support Donald Trump and I don't know any thinking conservative in America that thinks he represents conservative
values. Is a good face of the Republican Party. And I could never bring myself to vote for a Clinton. So I find myself not actually pulling the
lever when it came to the presidential race.
QUEST: Which probably just as much as an anathema to you as anything else. Sir, we thank you. Thank you for joining us. We'll need you during the
course of the election to help us through.
Now I'm going to go live pictures from the international space station. Let's listen in where NASA's astronaut, Scott Kelly, is preparing to leave
the station. He's been there for 340 days. He spent nearly one year in space. It's the longest mission of any U.S. astronaut. There have been
time when Russian cosmonauts have been longer. But Scott Kelly is about to head back. He said his folk goodbye and getting ready. We'll listen in
for a second.
SCOTT KELLY, U.S. ASTRONAUT: (via spacecraft) -- make their way back down to earth. It's gravity. Their families and a wife as it was over a year
ago.
QUEST: Then in the hatch they're taking some last minute pictures. There's going to seal the hatch up. Here you go.
KELLY: (via spacecraft) Once the hatches get closed. Standby for the official hatch closure time and a location of the station.
QUEST: The official hatch closure time is come up. You're going to chop your fingers in the hatch. And then it will of course detach from the ISS,
International Space Station. Head back to earth, where is a Soyuz craft and it will land --
KELLY: (via spacecraft) And then again there's two hatches to close. There's one on the Soyuz craft itself and one on the station side as well
inside post module.
QUEST: And then of course it will land in the Kazakhstan desert. It's important to remember that is still only the Soyuz craft that is able to
take the astronauts and cosmonauts out to the ISS. Obviously, since the demise of the space shuttle. It is the Russians. There are of course
independent spacecraft and others that are able to take carrier journeys -- carrier and cargo journeys to the space stations. They privatized that
part. And they're getting ready to close the hatch.
KELLY: Sergey Volkov doing one final wipe down of the ceiling ring around the Soyuz hatch before he closes it.
QUEST: There's hatch one closed. There is hatch two closed. Scott Kelly after 340 days on the space station. They are getting some interesting
questions and tests which will have to be performed. They're winding to -- the having to make sure it's absolutely locked tight, air tight. And there
will be interesting test. How has his muscles gown, responded.
KELLY: (via spacecraft) Ceiling it up. The hatch is closed.
QUEST: The hatch is closed. Their getting ready to -- it's 9:43 p.m. on the space station, of course it goes GMT 3:43 central time.
KELLY: (via spacecraft) 3:43 p.m. central time, 4:43 p.m. eastern while the station's flying just about 252 statue mile to the north of Malaysia.
QUEST: And with the station over Malaysia we'll take a break. QUEST MEANS BUSINESS.
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[16:46:05] QUEST: The Super Tuesday for the markets. Talk about being up in space. Look at the way the rocket of the markets went up. The second
best day of the year. It was better than expected. U.S. manufacturing data strengthening the oil prices. All of which sent the market up really
higher. Up 348, a gain of some 2.1 percent. Now that's what you call a day of good business. While we enjoy some business on the move.
Start out with Barclays, the British bank posted a loss of $550 million last year. And announced it will heavily scale back operations in Africa.
Now the bank has been in Africa for over a 100 years. The new strategy will focus on London and New York. Goodbye Africa and Barclays.
Ford saw sales up some 20 percent in February. The best in more than a decade. Especially strong were SUVs. Ford shares were up 4.6 percent. It
was cheap petrol that boosted auto sales across the United States.
Now to the little bricks that could. The profit for Lego is up 31 percent in 2015. Huge demand for "Star Wars" and the Disney Princess products.
Think about it, 72 billion Lego bricks where sold, 72 billion, and there were 100 million children that spent a lot of time trying to do all of
that. It's called business on the move.
If I could sing and dance. I would be singing and dancing. That's what the Lego Chief Exec had to say about his company's earnings. I spoke to
Jorgan Vig Knudstorp and he explained how they achieved such strong results with little bricks.
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JORGAN VIG KNUDSTORP, CEO, LEGO GROUP: Our association with other franchises, such as "Star Wars" or Disney's "Frozen" account for about a
third of our sales. So two thirds of our sales really relate to the strength of the core Lego offering. And I think we had ourselves massive
success with the introduction Lego Elves as being particularly relevant for girls, and Lego Ninjago which a worldwide bestseller for us.
QUEST: this franchise "Frozen and "Star Wars", I mean how easy is that to replicate, and it still a third of your business. How easy is that to
replicate it? It must mean surely you're always looking for the next Star Wars in 2016. And what have you got in 2016 and 17.
KNUDSTORP: Yes, in a way that's true, but it's also part of the story that we have been working with Star Wars since 1999. And even in the years
where there were no Star Wars movies being released, we kept growing with that as we grew the prevalence of the Lego idea all the world. And that
meant that in some years I think you can almost argue that we were keeping the Star Wars franchise alive, because so many parents and children were
interested in buying Lego Star Wars. And now course that the movies are finally back we're seeing a major effect of that also.
QUEST: Are you still surprised? You're not only the chief exec, but even so are you still surprised in this digital age where everybody just seems
to spend their times small screens. That kids want to get their hands -- and your kid yourself, because you got some stuff in your hands they can't
stop playing with.
KNUDSTORP: Yes, we do spend a lot of time on smart phones and tablets, but you know in earlier years we would have spent those hours watching TV. So
I think it's more a replacement of different kinds of screen entertainment, rather than the entire sort of dislocation as it were of any physical
activity.
[16:50:00] Now it's not a given that they will remain like that, so our job is of course to make sure that the physical experience constantly remains
highly appealing, highly relevant for our children also in future generations.
QUEST: What is that in your hand? I mean it's a piece of Lego I realize that. But what sort is it? What's it from? It's just a style of brick?
KNUDSTORP: it is the standard two by four brick then I'm sure you will remember that if you take six identical of those you can combine them in
915 million different ways. And I always have those in my pocket just to remind me of how simple our business idea actually is, and how many
possibilities it contains.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
QUEST: Nine hundred and something million that you've got just six in your pocket. Well anyway of course you've got a White House that has been built
of Lego. It took us the best part of a day to do it. We actually needed a five-year-old to help us to have built it. We'll think about that if we
look at some ways in which you can "MAKE, CREATE, INNOVATE".
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QUEST: The race for the White House. The Lego White House in our case. As you started off in Minnesota and of tonight's primary results, Hillary
Clinton said all of her Republican rivals have held deeply troubling views, not just Donald Trump. I asked the Democratic strategists Donna Brazil how
the Party is preparing to take on Trump in the general election. If he is of course the nominee.
DONNA BRAZILE, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: The way the rules are in the Democratic Party we apportion it based on your vote total. So if you
receive 15 percent of the vote get a delegate. So our nominating process can go on up until May, maybe the first week of June in California. So
once the contest is over with we have to unify the party. If you think about the Obama coalition as young people, racial minorities, a lot of new
people in the process, Clinton and Sanders are pulling two sides of the Obama coalition. So we have to heal the party and bring them together, and
then we can face the eventual Republican nominee. But we can't jump it so quick.
[17:00:00] QUEST: But it's unlikely that anybody who was for Bernie Sanders, if Clinton will win, or when she becomes a nominee. They're not
going to jump ship and go to the other side.
BRAZILE: Well, remember I'm a super delegate and I am an officer of the party, so I'm neutral. So I have to say Bernie or Hillary although we know
based on the current delegate totals that Hillary has a slight lead, but I have to assume that things could be reversed. But regardless of the
nominee, I think the Democratic Party is poised to not only win this election year, like we did in the previous two presidential years, but I do
believe that the Democratic Party will pick up Senate seats. Donald Trump has motivated not just Republicans, but also Democrats.
QUEST: How does the Democratic Party fight against a candidate that has tapped into a well of indecision, a well of anger, a well of apprehension,
anxiety, whatever you want to call it? They've tapped into it. And your party has been in the White House for eight years creating it.
BRAZILE: Hope and change versus anger and fear. I think at the end of the day hope and change will rule the day and not what I call fear and anger.
The Republican Party has spent the last seven years telling their base that President Obama is not just annoying, but they dislike Obama Care, and he's
lawless, and that he hasn't done anything or helped anybody.
[16:55:04] Well that's not true. So the Democratic Party focus is to ensure that those Americans who believe that the president has been able to
accomplish a great deal. Turn the economy around, save the auto industry, capture Bin Laden. I think at the end of the day the Democratic appeal
will be a lot stronger and this so-called anger and fear.
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