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California Suing Trump Administration Over National Guard Deployment; L.A. Police Chief: This Violence that I've Seen is Disgusting; Trade Talks Between U.S. and China Kick Off in London; Donald Trump Deploys National Guard In L.A. Amid ICE Raid Protests; Warner Bros. Discovery To Break Up By Mid-2026; Funk Star Sly Stone Dead At 82. Aired 4-5p ET

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JIM SCIUTTO CNN HOST: Closing bell there on Wall Street. Pretty much flat. Those are the markets and these are the main events.

Protesters are expected to return to the streets of Los Angeles as President Trump says that the National Guard troops he sent, without, keep

in mind, the consent of the state governor to contain those protests, are doing a fantastic job.

As the U.S. and China meet for high stakes trade talks in London, I will speak to the mayor of a Canadian steel town that could be devastated by

tariffs.

And Apple showcases how A.I. is coming to an iPhone near you at its Annual Developers Conference.

Live from Washington. It is Monday, June 9th. I'm Jim Sciutto in for Richard Quest, and this is QUEST MEANS BUSINESS.

Good evening.

We begin in Los Angeles where protesters are demonstrating against President Trump's expanding immigration crackdown. These are live pictures

of the city. Protests have been peaceful today after crowds this weekend came into contact with law enforcement.

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SCIUTTO: The National Guard pushed back demonstrators gathered outside a detention center. We were watching it as it took place. They were peaceful

prior to that effort to push them back, the firing of the pepper spray there. President Trump called up those troops against the wishes of state

and local officials, unusual, it hasn't happened in this country in 60 years.

California Attorney General Rob Bonta says the protests escalated only after those National Guard forces arrived. He announced a lawsuit to force

them to stand down.

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ROB BONTA, CALIFORNIA ATTORNEY GENERAL: An order that abused the federal government's authority and violated the 10th Amendment and federal law, an

order that skipped over multiple rational, common sense strategic steps that should have been deployed to quell unrest and prevent escalation.

As a result, I, in partnership with Governor Gavin Newsom, are suing President Trump and asking the court to set aside the President's unlawful

action federalizing the California National Guard.

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SCIUTTO: Sources tell CNN that the administration is now mobilizing some 500 active duty Marines in response to the protests. President Trump spoke

to reporters in the last hours. He says his decision to send in the National Guard was necessary, claiming that California's leaders were not

acting to stop the unrest, though they had deployed law enforcement.

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DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: Some of the things you're reading about in Los Angeles, thank goodness we sent out some

wonderful National Guard. They've really helped, and a lot of problems that we are having out there. They were afraid to do anything, and we sent out

the troops and they've done a fantastic job.

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SCIUTTO: We should note that Los Angeles had sent the LAPD out. The LAPD said that they had the situation under control. The protests sparked

because of expanding immigration raids, Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass spoke to CNN earlier today. She says those raids caught city officials off guard.

Mayor Bass also warned the situation could spiral once again.

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MAYOR KAREN BASS (D) LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA: It is peaceful now, but we do not know where and when the next raids will be. That is the concern because

people in this city have a rapid response network. If they see ICE, they go out and they protest, and so, it is just a recipe for pandemonium.

It is an escalation that didn't have to happen. Why were there raids? You know, we had been told that he was going to go after violent criminals. It

wasn't a drug den. It was a Home Depot.

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SCIUTTO: Julia Vargas Jones is in Los Angeles. She has been following the protests for a number of days now. Tell us what you're seeing today.

JULIA VARGAS JONES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Jim, right now we are just seeing a proof of just how tense things can get and then ease up again. It

has been like that before, but this is the first time that we are seeing this today.

Just moments ago, you had live pictures of our location where there has been an interfaith group here with United Methodists, Muslims and Jewish

congregations coming together and praying. And just now, it seems things are getting a little bit more tense.

This is the Police Department of Los Angeles, as well as National Guard just behind us. Protesters have just shown up really, really not that long

ago. I want to say in the past ten minutes, this is how this crowd assembled.

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What you see here, these bright green guns, weapons, I should say that officers are holding, these are less lethal weapons. They are rubber

bullets, I've been just told that will be -- would be used for crowd control and have been used for crowd control over the past couple of days.

I am going to go ahead and get my photographer out of here for just us to be out of this line, but this is just proof, Jim, of how tense things are

and how thin patience is from both the police side and the protesters, which had been quite a peaceful protest, I would even say a rally I just

moments ago, and I am not sure if these are folks that were around the other side of this federal building for a rally that had been called in the

name of the -- they were calling for the release of David Huerta, a prominent union leader and immigrant rights activist who was detained as

part of this -- part of the demonstrations over the past few days.

SCIUTTO: Julia, as you've been there and watching the protesters, the President is claiming the protesters are attacking law enforcement, that

they are violent. But as you've been witnessing that protest there, were they attacking law enforcement? Were they not listening to their

instructions?

JONES: No, I would not say that, Jim. I would not say that.

This is a crowd that has elderly people. I just spoke -- before we came on, I was speaking with two 19-year old girls from the L.A. area, home from Ivy

League institutions for the summer. There are pastors. There are cantors from synagogues.

This is also, though there are individuals that seem to be ready for teargas, I will say, or pepper spray, as we have been hearing about this

crowd analysis. Right? We've been hearing about two different kinds of protesters. And of course, you're always going to see a mix. There are

provocations.

Now, we haven't seen any kind of physical provocations. You know how these things go, Jim. You know how protesters will get in the face of police and

they will exclaim their demands at them. They will ask for what they want. In this case, the release of the people that have been arrested over the

past few days in these immigration raids, as well as the people who have been arrested for their participation in the protests.

But we have not seen, there comes more police in riot gear from the left side there. We have not seen any kind of physical escalation from the part

of the protesters, but we are seeing, you know, the LAPD and I am checking to make sure that it is Los Angeles Police Department, but it seems like it

is, showing that they are ready to control the situation as this has become, as, you know, a political issue, right?

SCIUTTO: No question.

JONES: So, the city also trying to show that they are ready. They can take this on without the help of the National Guard.

SCIUTTO: And that's been the continuous position of the Governor, of the Mayor is that the LAPD has the units, they have the officers, they have the

training to respond.

Julia Vargas Jones, thanks so much.

Well, the California Governor Gavin Newsom, is accusing President Trump of creating a crisis in order to take command of California's National Guard

troops. Newsom posted on X earlier that federalizing those troops only made matters worse. It is exceptionally rare for presidents to take control of

the National Guard over the objection or without the state's consent. We have to go back to 1965, when President Johnson did so to protect Civil

Rights protesters.

Gene Rossi is a former federal prosecutor.

Good to have you, sir.

Just from a legal perspective, Trump is claiming this is necessary, that the situation is so out-of-control that the LAPD, et cetera or the state's

governor is not acting sufficiently and therefore he has to take this extraordinary step of federalizing the National Guard.

Do you see the legal basis for that action? For that decision?

GENE ROSSI, FORMER FEDERAL PROSECUTOR: I do see a legal basis, but, we have to assume that a President is going to maturely and objectively exercise

his broad discretion to protect federal property, to protect federal officials, and to protect the enforcement of federal laws, and Eisenhower

did it in 1957 responsibly. LBJ did it in 1965 when George Wallace was standing in the door to the University of Alabama. He did it responsibly,

LBJ did, and I am pretty sure that JFK did it in 1962 with Ole Miss.

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But here, what troubles me the most is not that President Trump may have the authority because I think he does under the statutes and posse

comitatus, but is he doing it responsibly? Is he making political hay out of this? And that's what troubles me the most.

I worked for Governor Bill O'Neill of Connecticut in the 1980s. Nobody has ever heard of him, but I tried to work with the Reagan administration and

state and local officials when he was governor, to try and work out a plan of attack, if you will, or a unified approach. What seems to happen here is

that President Trump is ignoring the concerns of Governor Newsom, Mayor Bass, and injecting the National Guard into an already hot level situation

and just antagonizing and make it worse.

Jim, here is what I thought of before I came on. In 1970 on the campus of Kent State, there was an escalation of violence that was completely

unnecessary and four or five people or several people were killed and it was a political decision when they sent out the National Guard.

And what I am worried about here, and I really am, is the President is exercising his authority, which is broad and fulsome, but all they are

doing is making a situation much worse than it is.

SCIUTTO: Yes.

ROSSI: L.A. is four million people and we are talking about protests of like 500 or 800 people out of four million.

SCIUTTO: Yes.

ROSSI: They are trying to kill a fly with a bazooka.

SCIUTTO: Yes, Kent State, 1974, students killed, National Guardsmen who fired on them.

CNN is reporting now that the administration is considering mobilizing not just those National Guard troops, but active duty military Marines, some

500 U.S. Marines. Legally, tell me what the impact of that would be and what the escalation of that would be, to put active U.S. military on the

streets of the U.S.?

ROSSI: Well, the word irony to me is the word of the week, Jim.

President Trump on January 6th was watching the events unfold at the U.S. Capitol, and 1,500 to 1,200 people were prosecuted and then pardoned. What

happened just on the videos was atrocious and there was no calling up on the National Guard. There was no invoking the Insurrection Act. He pardoned

everybody.

Here, legally, Jim, under posse comitatus, Title X, the President, if it exists, he can exercise his broad authority to determine, to find that

there is an insurrection and an insurrection is pretty bad and call out the Marines.

I would argue that given 500 to 800 people in an area that's very small, out of a population of four million, that that is a far cry from an

insurrection.

SCIUTTO: Yes.

ROSSI: So if he does that and invokes the Marines, the Marines, Iwo Jima, Okinawa, the Marines to go into L.A., I would say that's an abuse of power.

SCIUTTO: Yes. For folks watching who may not be aware, Posse Comitatus Act 1878 restricts the use of the military for civilian law enforcement within

the country.

Gene Rossi, it is important to have your perspective. I appreciate it. This is an unprecedented event we are witnessing here, and we will continue to

do our best to cover it.

Thanks so much for joining.

ROSSI: Thank you.

SCIUTTO: Well, in another area of conflict, the trade wars, Donald Trump recently doubled U.S. tariffs on steel and aluminum. The mayor of one

Canadian city says that decision could trigger the worst economic crisis for this community in living memory. That's next.

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SCIUTTO: The U.S. and China have now kicked off a new round of trade talks in London. The U.S. side includes Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent,

Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick and Trade Representative Jamieson Greer.

Chinese Vice Premier He Lifeng is leading Beijing's delegation. Both sides trying to preserve a truce brokered last month, which reduced tariffs from

the peaks President Trump had imposed. Since then, Washington and Beijing have accused each other of violating that truce.

U.S. tariffs are sparking tensions far closer to home as well. Last week, Trump doubled the tariffs on steel and aluminum imports to the U.S. In

Canada, the mayor of Sault Ste. Marie, just north of the U.S. border, as you see there, says the President's tariffs on those metals could push his

city's companies and community to an economic breaking point.

Matthew Shoemaker recently wrote: "The consequences for producers such as Algoma Steel could be devastating and trigger an economic crisis unlike

anything seen in living memory."

Mayor Shoemaker joins me now. Thanks so much for taking the time.

MAYOR MATTHEW SHOEMAKER, SAULT STE. MARIE, CANADA: Thanks for having me.

SCIUTTO: As you write about this, you note that this is not just about steel and aluminum themselves, but that it, in your words, breaks supply

chains, undermines jobs on both sides of the border, risks inflaming economic nationalism as well.

Can you explain how raising the prices of those key commodities filters down through the system?

SHOEMAKER: Yes, well, if you look at Sault Ste. Marie as one example, we are on the north side here in Soo, Ontario -- Ontario, Canada, and then

right across the river, less than, you know, a mile or a couple of kilometers, as we would say, is Sault Ste. Marie, Michigan, and its economy

as the smaller community on the border is largely dependent on Canadian steelworkers and people who earn their money from Canadian steelworkers

going across the river, going into Michigan and spending their dollars into Northern Michigan, Traverse City, at Mackinac Island, the Petoskey.

So the steelworker income in our community doesn't just support Sault Ste. Marie, Canada, it supports the regional economy, which includes the Upper

Peninsula of Michigan, and that's why it impacts more than just the Canadian steel market when you impose tariffs on Canadian byproduct,

because those dollars trickle back into the U.S.

SCIUTTO: You made a point just in terms of a reference point, back to the first round of steel tariffs under President Trump and his first

administration, 2018. While the U.S. steel industry gained 8,000 jobs, manufacturers that depend on steel shed 75,000 jobs. Can you explain how

that worked out that way? Because, of course, that headline figure is the one that the Trump administration advertises.

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SHOEMAKER: Yes, of course. So Algoma has to buy much of its supply. It makes steel by using coal, although it is transitioning to an electric

based steelmaking. It uses coal from West Virginia. It uses iron ore from Minnesota, and those products get shipped up to the Great Lakes through the

Soo Locks, over to Algoma, which then produces the steel and ships back the product to go into Ford Broncos and Teslas.

So if they're making less steel, they are buying less natural resources from the mines in the U.S., and if they are -- if their price increases on

the steel output, that means companies like Ford and Tesla that buy their byproduct are buying less. And not just those two companies, but hot water

tank makers, steel beam makers, all of those companies that would have their costs increased because of the tariff are buying less and therefore

reducing the number of ships or whatever that may be.

So while the 8,000 jobs were created in the 2018 tariff war, it was roughly 75,000 that were lost as a result of the Canadian steel and aluminum

tariffs. So overall, we disagree that this, you know, promotes job growth in the U.S.

SCIUTTO: Given that -- here is a classic example of how the communities are interconnected across the border. Youve got two Sault Ste. Maries, right?

One in Michigan, one in Ontario. Do you find that the two of you are speaking with the same voice to the administration? Lobbying the

administration to say, hey, it is hurting both of us here?

SHOEMAKER: Absolutely. I mean, bridge numbers for traffic traveling into the U.S. are down by almost 40 percent and traffic coming over to Canada is

not down all that much, a percent or two. I think it really shows the, you know the sense that Canadians have that this is an attack on us rather than

a real dispute between the two countries, because the American or American neighbors in Sault Ste. Marie, Michigan, still treat us like part of their

community or an extension of their community.

But I've met with the Mayor in Sault St. Marie, Michigan, Don Gary. We've lobbied the congressman from the First Michigan District together to say

that, you know, this hurts the American economy on the south side of the border here in Michigan and it hurts the Canadian economy by affecting the

largest export that comes from our community.

And not just that, we use the example of a recent ice storm that happened in Michigan, in the Upper Peninsula that caused them to need Canadian

linesmen to go and help restore the power which we sent willingly. It is a mutually beneficial relationship that we can both encourage and nurture,

and it will make both of us rich and prosperous.

SCIUTTO: Before we go, I want to talk about another threat that President Trump has made at times. Let's set aside the 51st state thing. We know

that's not going to happen. But he has talked about the border between the U.S. and Canada and unilaterally redrawing that border, perhaps to include

all of the Great Lakes as opposed to splitting them down the middle. Is that something that you take seriously, that people in and around where you

live take seriously as a potential threat?

SHOEMAKER: The 51st state stuff, really, I think, began the friction between the communities or I guess, you know, the friction that the

Canadian side felt from the U.S. administration. And I am careful not to, you know, paint our Michigan friends with the same brush as the

administration, because I think it really is two different things.

We live peacefully with our American neighbors here across the river from one another, and it is really a policy disagreement with the administration

in Washington that we are navigating through.

You know, I think that President Trump has been relatively clear in his most recent meetings with the Prime Minister that the 51st state stuff and

the redrawing of the borders requires two parties to negotiate, and there is an unwilling party on the Canadian side to renegotiate the borders

between our two countries.

And so I do think that, you know, that is past us. What we need to do now is secure our mutually beneficial economy to work for, as our premier, you

know, the equivalent of your governor has said, Fortress North America.

SCIUTTO: Mayor Matthew Shoemaker of Sault Ste. Marie, thanks so much for joining.

SHOEMAKER: Thanks for having me.

SCIUTTO: Well, the chair of Turkish Airlines says the quality control issues are putting a dent in its growth. Ahmed Bolat sat down with CNN's

Richard Quest last week in New Delhi. He says that some plane manufacturers have bigger quality issues than others.

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AHMED BOLAT, CHAIR, TURKISH AIRLINES: The problem basically supply chain and quality. Quality and the quality was the issue with Boeing more than

Airbus, and eventually the previous administration was tough was tough on these issues. So imagine monthly 50 aircrafts were supposed to be rolled

off from assembly line and reduced up to 12.

RICHARD QUEST, CNN INTERNATIONAL HOST, "QUEST MEANS BUSINESS": How is that actually affecting your growth at the moment? Is it much?

BOLAT: Maybe two to three percent, and we were going to actually phase out some old aircrafts. So now we are keeping them and we are configuring,

putting new seats and new IFEs and so on.

QUEST: Is it frustrating that there are these supply chain issues?

BOLAT: I am not really frustrated. You see, and why? Because I know that everybody are facing the similar issues, similar problems. So how to

utilize the existing capacity is the art to make the airline more profitable.

QUEST: As we look at your growth, now, you've done an arrangement with Riyadh Air, which is going to be new and interesting. Where else do you see

the positioning?

BOLAT: You see our basis is, if there is an opportunity, then we should share with it proportionally. So that's the way we are looking and in that

sense, we will have more joint ventures probably coming.

QUEST: Joint ventures? Not just co-chairs. Joint ventures.

BOLAT: Yes. Joint venture, I am talking about joint ventures.

QUEST: Yes.

BOLAT: Yes. Because all the industry is lacking of capacity. Imagine both airlines are flying the same destinations with 60 percent load factor. It

doesn't make sense. So -- and as long as the alliances allow, the airlines should really cooperate more.

QUEST: Where would you like to grow the airline?

BOLAT: We are focusing on 11 countries.

QUEST: Yes.

BOLAT: Some in West USA, some in Asia. These are the countries where the tourists, travelers coming to Turkey spends more money. They are coming for

culture, heritage, history and they are not really interested in sand and sea, so they spend more money and we have a goal bringing 15 million from

these countries.

Last year, the number was two million, in '24 we increased to three million. We have a goal to bring five million Americans to Turkey.

QUEST: So what's the obstacle?

BOLAT: Obstacles, still, we have to introduce the beauties of Turkey more. So that's the reason we make this Connect to Turkey Programs, two days ago,

from 85 different countries, we brought around 200 big agencies to show the Aegean side of Turkey. They went to Afyon, they went to Denizli, Pamukkale.

These are -- and then finally Ephesus, and none of them saw this before.

And I felt really a little bit ashamed that we should do this before, not today. We should have done this before. So we will do more of these

activities.

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SCIUTTO: Richard there, speaking with the Chair of Turkish Airlines.

Well, Donald Trump is now defending his decision to federalize National Guard troops in California and send them to Los Angeles. It is a step a

U.S. President has not taken over the objections of state leaders since 1965. We will have the latest from the White House just ahead.

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SCIUTTO: President Donald Trump says the National Guard forces he deployed to Los Angeles are doing a, "Fantastic job." He federalized them without

the consent of state and local officials. That is a step a U.S. president has not taken since 1965 when then President Johnson mobilized the National

Guard to defend civil rights protesters.

The mayor of Los Angeles, Karen Bass, is calling the government's immigration raids, which sparked these protests, "Fuel for a fire that was

unnecessary." She says that the current unrest would not have happened without them.

Kristen Holmes is at the White House. And I wonder, Kristen, if this is a fight that the administration wants, somehow, certainly aware that a

president has not federalized National Guard forces for some 60 years, at least without the consent of state officials. They're now being sued by the

California governor for that federalization. Any sense of pullback from the White House?

KRISTEN HOLMES, CNN U.S. NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: No, not at all. And in fact, we're actually seeing them double and triple down on this idea that

they have deployed, that we also know that Donald Trump has left the door open for Marines to go into California. We have Natasha (ph) at the

Pentagon reporting that these Marines are already on standby, about 300 of them. So, there's no indication here that anyone is pulling back.

Now, in terms of whether they want whether they want this fight or not, you have to remember that all of this is about immigration. All of this is

about what they say is taking people who are legally in the country and bringing them out of the country, sending them back to their home country.

They still believe that is a winning issue for them. They still believe that immigration is a key issue for them, and that it makes Donald Trump

more popular.

So, whether or not they want this fight, question remains to be seen. But do they think that they can win this fight based on what this is all

around? Yes, they do.

So, we're likely going to see some more escalation here, particularly if these protests do kind of spiral out of control, like we have been seeing

on the last several nights.

Now, Donald Trump and Gavin Newsom at this point are kind of trading personal barbs, right? We have this whole other part of this, which is the

federal assertion of putting in the National Guard around the governor.

But then you also have this whole personal level between Gavin Newsom and Donald Trump. Donald Trump calling him grossly incompetent.

At one point, Tom Homan, the border czar suggesting that Gavin Newsom should be arrested, then backtracking, saying that's not what he meant.

Then Donald Trump saying, actually, he should be arrested.

He was asked a second ago, Donald Trump, what crime Gavin Newsom had committed, and he said his primary crime was running for governor.

So, clearly this is just a personal attack here, going back and forth the two of them. Gavin Newsom now saying Donald Trump, with this threat, is

moving towards authoritarianism.

So, how this ends? It really remains to be seen what's going to happen next. I think a lot of that's going to depend on how tonight plays out in

real time. But they are watching this incredibly closely, and they are ready to keep up with that deployment, to continue to put more forces and

more reinforcements into California.

SCIUTTO: Kristen Holmes, thanks so much for walking us through it.

Well, in more business news, Warner Brothers discovery shares have closed lower this after the company announced plans to split next year. The parent

company of this network, CNN, will divide into two publicly traded entities, streaming and studios and the global networks.

CNN's Brian Stelter is with me now. And Brian, it strikes me that this reverses much of the work that was done in the previous merger when the

previous company's discovery and the parent company of CNN joined up, is that the end result of this?

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BRIAN STELTER, CNN CHIEF MEDIA ANALYST: That is true, but I guess everything in life, Jim, is a re-bundling and unbundling. You know,

everything in life ultimately gets combined and then taken back apart again. That's what's happening at CNN's parent company.

Now, as CEO David Zaslav implements this split. It is a reversal from what the company did four years ago. Zaslav of Discovery taking over the Old

Time Warner assets. WBD, as we know it today has been around for three years, but its stock has languished.

This time three years ago, the shares were around $20.00, now about $10.00 a share, so that value has been cut in half. And that really tells the

story about why this change is happening.

There's one other dollar figure, Jim, that tells the story, $1,000 shares of Netflix have been over $1,000 in recent weeks. WBD, as I said, under

$10.00 a share, it's a tale of two companies. Every other media company wants to be Netflix, wants to be the streaming powerhouse.

And by breaking up WBD into two halves, you're going to have a streaming and studios half, and then you're going to have a linear cable networks

half. The idea here is that the streaming side, which is growing, gaining subscribers, and now becoming profitable should, in theory, be valued more

expensively by Wall Street.

But as you said, I think investors still need more persuading, because WBD did pop in the open and then slid today, closing down more than three

percent.

So, tell me about this other company that's going to house the -- I guess, the older line assets, right, the cable channels such as CNN, TNT Sports,

etcetera. What is the future -- what do analysts believe the future is of that entity?

STELTER: This is always why it's so complicated talk about the media business in these years, because the streaming side, while very expensive

and growing and where all the excitement is, it's actually not the profitable side.

You know, it has been a struggle for companies like Disney and WBD to make a profit on streaming. The area where the profits exist are in those old

fashioned cable channels that you just named, they still have steady and strong profits, even though there's a lot of pressure from cord cutting.

So, the positive take for the second company, the Linear T.V. company, that CNN will be a part of, is that these companies do have a runway because

they have profits that they can bank on for a number of years to come.

They also have, of course, international audiences, and that is incredibly valuable in this day and age. So, those are the two advantages for that

Linear T.V. company.

The great unknown here is whether CNN Discovery, TNT etcetera, will ultimately be bought up by someone else, or if this new company will be an

acquirer.

Clearly, we are not at the end of this round of media consolidation, even though today's news is kind of the opposite, it's a breakup. It's part of a

wider trend toward consolidation. And this is, I guess maybe the fifth inning, maybe the sixth, but definitely not the ninth, Jim.

SCIUTTO: I like the baseball analogy, that helps me understand the whole -- the whole thing.

STELTER: I know you do.

SCIUTTO: Brian Stelter, thanks so much for helping walk us through it.

Well, your iPhone screen could soon look a bit different. Apple has just unveiled its new iPhone software design called Liquid Glass. It's just one

of the updates coming out of the company's developer's conference happening now in California.

Clare Duffy is with me now. So, I, like you, and probably a lot of folks watching have been through a whole series of system updates, which

sometimes change the features on our phone. And then we're all -- if you're like me, you're figuring out, OK, how do I respond to this? So, what's this

new one going to do to our phones?

CLARE DUFFY, CNN BUSINESS WRITER: Yes, Jim, I mean, look, Apple's WWDC today was a lot less splashy and interesting, honestly, than the past few

years. The announcements that were made today are much more evolutionary than revolutionary, and I don't think that what we heard today is going to

change anyone's mind that Apple is behind competitors on A.I., which was really the big question going into this event today.

So, yes, users will start to see visual changes across all of their Apple devices. We're also going to be jumping from iOS 18, the current operating

system version, to iOS 26 and all of Apple's operating systems will be 26 but the biggest things here were some of the apple intelligence features

that were rolled out, things like an A.I. workout buddy for Apple Watch, live translation for calls and texts.

And I think that we're really getting a sense of Apple's strategy for A.I. here, which is, rather than having one killer A.I. app like open a eyes,

ChatGPT, Apple is infusing A.I. throughout all of its products and services in more subtle ways, Jim.

SCIUTTO: Clare Duffy, I'm bracing myself for that update. I'm just going to wake up in the morning, the phone's going to look different. Thanks so much

for walking us through.

Well, it's sad news if you're a fan of some of the greatest movie music of the '70s, musician Sly Stone has died at the age of 82. The funk rock

pioneer was the founder of Sly and Family Stone. He passed away peacefully after a battle with a lung condition. CPO -- COPD this according to his

family.

Stephanie Elam looks back at his life and legendary musical legacy.

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STEPHANIE ELAM, CNN BUSINESS NEWS CORRESPONDENT (voice over): A signature sound, a distinctive style and a catalog of hits that broke musical ground.

Sly Stone, born Sylvester Stewart, was the creative force behind Sly and the Family Stone blending seemingly separate sounds to create musical

masterpieces.

It's like Everyday People and Dance to the Music dominated the charts in the late 1960s.

Described as a bridge between James Brown and the Fab Four, close friend and music icon George Clinton put it this way to CBS.

GEORGE CLINTON, ENTERTAINER: Like seeing the Black version of The Beatles. He had the sensibility of the street, the church and then, like the

qualities of a motel.

ELAM (voice over): Sly's band smashed gender and racial barriers of the time. Fame musician and producer Ahmir Questlove Thompson spoke of that

also to CBS.

AHMIR QUESTLOVE THOMPSON, FAME MUSICIAN AND PRODUCER: Good to have a band that has women playing instruments as serious as men do, to have the white

guys the drummer. If you're -- if you're the drummer in a black band, you better be good. You know what I mean?

ELAM (voice over): In the 1970s, Sly echoed the political moment, producing one of his greatest hits. There's a riot going on. That album went

platinum, topping Billboard's pop and soul chart.

But as Sly's musical star rose, so did his struggles with addiction. He started canceling shows. His behavior grew erratic, and his band fell apart

in the mid 1970s. In the following years, he struggled with finances and legal issues.

But in 1993, Sly's contributions were cemented in time. Sly and his band reunited on stage at their induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

SLY STONE, FUNK STAR: Thank you all very much. I love you personally very much. And I'll see you soon.

ELAM (voice over): By the early 2000, Sly had retreated from the spotlight. He released a memoir in 2023 but didn't appear in public.

In an e-mail to Time Magazine promoting his book, Stone described the joy and support he cherished from his children. "Feeling the love we have for

each other, beloved by family, lauded by fans. Sly Stone leaves behind a legacy of rhythm and harmony."

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SCIUTTO: Sly Stone dead at the age of 82. That is QUEST MEANS BUSINESS for today, coming up next, "CONNECTING AFRICA."

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