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Could FBI Have Stopped Joran van der Sloot?; BP Stock Dropping; Interview With Florida Senator Bill Nelson

Aired June 09, 2010 - 16:00   ET

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RICK SANCHEZ, CNN ANCHOR: Time to wind things down at the end of the 3:00. How does the market close and how did BP do today?

And for that answer, we get Poppy on.

Poppy, what you got?

POPPY HARLOW, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, a horrible day for BP stock today, Rick.

But let me tell you this. All of the folks that you were talking to -- and you're looking at the close of the market there on Wall Street -- but all the folks on Twitter that were talking about BP and their claims, General Thad Allen, the head of this whole clean up mission, met -- sent this letter to Tony Hayward, the CEO of BP, saying, listen, we want to know more about your claims.

Apparently, he had a meeting with BP's claims team today. And, Rick, I got some numbers for you -- 37,000 claims received by BP so far, 18,000 paid out, $48 million paid out. Guess what happened to BP's stock today? It's down about 16 percent.

This company has lost more than half its value since that April 20 explosion and the disaster in the Gulf. And that's what happened to BP today. That's one of our top stories on CNN Money. And you see why, people really, really reacting to this more and more by the day, Rick.

(CROSSTALK)

SANCHEZ: Time to start selling some of the company.

As we begin this next newscast, I'm honored to report that we are the news of record for American Forces Network at this hour. We welcome all the troops watching us right now overseas.

Here is your national conversation.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

SANCHEZ (voice-over): Here is what is making the LIST today.

Now we can see it in high-def, and the story behind the clarity is not good. Does this show BP lied? REP. EDWARD MARKEY (D), MASSACHUSETTS: Right from the beginning, they were told not to tell the truth about the larger amount of oil that was going out there.

SANCHEZ: Two senators, Markey and Nelson, livid. We will talk live to one of them.

SEN. BLANCHE LINCOLN (D), ARKANSAS: Thank you.

SANCHEZ: Lincoln.

MEG WHITMAN (R), CALIFORNIA GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATE: What a great night.

SANCHEZ: Whitman.

(CHEERING AND APPLAUSE)

SANCHEZ: Haley, a big primary night for women. I will list the winners for you and the controversies.

And the case against Joran van der Sloot gets even more unbelievable. Was the FBI on the brink of nabbing him in a sting operation, but he got away, and then killed a woman in Peru? New revelations.

The lists you need to know about. Who's today's most intriguing? Who's landed on the list you don't want to be on? Who's making news on Twitter? It's why I keep a list.

Pioneering tomorrow's cutting-edge news right now.

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SANCHEZ: And hello again, everyone. I'm Rick Sanchez. Here we go, hour two. Time to pick up the pace of today's LIST for those of you now checking in.

Number one, first of all, I want to show you something that might illustrate the frustration with the oily mess in Gulf of Mexico the best. this is Diane Wilson, a distraught shrimper. She wrote a book about the environmental impact in the Gulf. She disrupted a Senate hearing this morning by pouring oil all over herself right there in front of all these folks. She was arrested, but not before interrupting Republican Senator Lisa Murkowski of Alaska. Here it is. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

SEN. LISA MURKOWSKI (R), ALASKA: It's been a couple weeks now since you have been before the committee. I think last time you were here, the -- the oil from the...

(CROSSTALK)

DIANE WILSON, SHRIMPER: We're tired of the bailouts and we're tired of being dumped on in the Gulf. I'm a commercial fisherman from the Gulf of Mexico, and we're tired of being dumped on. (CROSSTALK)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Let me announce (OFF-MIKE) to please exit the room and allow us to proceed with our hearing.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

SANCHEZ: "We're tired of being dumped on."

Murkowski, by the way, is one of several Republicans who want to keep the cap on what oil companies would pay for if there is a spill at $75 million, which is, ironically enough, about how much they spend on campaign contributions, the oil and gas industry, that is, to politicians each year.

Now, I want you to take a look at this, these new high-def pics of what the oil spill looks like underwater. See it right there on the left? If we had such a clear shot of these, why were they -- why were there questions about how much oil was spilling? Well, in about 10 minutes, I'm going to be joined by Florida Senator Bill Nelson. He's an out -- he's very outspoken about BP's handling of the oil disaster, and he's outraged about this.

You have seen him on here before. He's become a frequent guest for us. Well, he's got more to say and has plenty to say on this show before. We are going to hear him on this day.

Now, turning to our political list, here we go. The results are in from yesterday's primaries.

Let's go down the list of winners with senior political editor Mark Preston and CNN's political producer, Peter Hamby.

You guys ready to go?

MARK PRESTON, CNN POLITICAL EDITOR: Absolutely.

(CROSSTALK)

SANCHEZ: All right, let's do -- let's do -- let's do this, fellows. Let's do Senator Blanche Lincoln first. She wins the runoff in Arkansas. A lot folks didn't think she could. She fought off the wrath of the unions, who emphasized her standing as the chairman of the Agriculture Committee.

I want you to listen to one of her political ads.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP, BLANCHE LINCOLN CAMPAIGN AD)

SEN. BLANCHE LINCOLN (D), ARKANSAS: I won't back down to the Washington unions or the Wall Street banks that don't care about Arkansas. And I won't back down as the chairman of the Agriculture Committee in fighting for child nutrition and family farms.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

SANCHEZ: Well, Mark Preston, it would seem that nothing seems to help a politician more than bringing home the pork, right? And I guess you could say that maybe she's being rewarded for that?

PRESTON: Well, you know, look, Rick, that's a classic inside/outside message there. She talks about how she's not beholden to the special interests in Washington, D.C., that she's going to fight for Arkansas, she's not going to get tied up in Washington- speak, so -- so to speak.

However, she talks about the fact that she was the chairwoman of the Senate Agriculture Committee, obviously a big committee for Arkansas. So, Blanche Lincoln really effectively hammered home that message. And we saw that's certainly one of main reasons, Rick, why she won last night.

SANCHEZ: Yes. And you know why she could possibly win again when she goes up against the Republican in this race? One name, Bill Clinton, right?

PRESTON: Well, you know, Rick, yes, no question. Bill Clinton. And, also, she really ran against the idea that she was beholden to union, which are not very well liked by the moderate voters of Arkansas.

So, the fact that she said, look, I'm not with Washington and I'm not beholden to these real liberal special interests, that probably should help Blanche Lincoln, Rick, as she heads into November.

SANCHEZ: All right, let's go to South Carolina. Nikki Haley, she's stuck with 49 percent of the vote. That's what it looks like right there.

Let's go to Peter.

Peter, this thing got bizarre. I mean, look, probably -- I mean, look, South Carolina has a tendency to have really bizarre elections and bizarre things happen. This one may have taken the cake, did it not?

PETER HAMBY, CNN POLITICAL PRODUCER: Oh, even people down here say it's been an unprecedented race. Everyone from the local reporters, donors, activists, they have never seen anything like this.

But the allegations against Nikki Haley that we have been talking about, people said they had an affair with her, she denied it, you know, as we saw, she outperformed all expectations last night. She almost hit 50 percent of the vote, which would have had her avoiding a runoff. So, it appears the mud-slinging down here didn't hurt her. In fact, it seems like it helped her and hardened her support among her backers.

SANCHEZ: Even though there were two men who came forward who said they had relationships with her, even though there was a man who came out toward the end, a fellow Republican, and called her, like the president, a "rag-head"? All these things have only bolstered her image and her popularity in the state of South Carolina?

HAMBY: Well, yes. I mean, calling somebody a "rag-head" doesn't attract support, I think.

And keep in mind this is a totally unique situation we have here. Typically, South Carolina Republicans are white males. And we -- you know, there are -- have been allegations of sex against many men in political history. But Nikki Haley is a Indian-American woman. And it's -- we're seeing that attacking a female candidate in such a way can backfire significantly.

And you are going to see in the runoff against Gresham Barrett, the Barrett campaign, or Gresham Barrett himself, they're going to tread very carefully, because they -- they saw that Nikki really benefited from these attacks.

SANCHEZ: Thanks so much, guys.

Peter, Mark, good to see you. We will wait and see what happens from here. It's only going to get more and more interesting.

Now, take a look at this, from our follow-up list. For the very first time, we're hearing from a woman who climbed -- who claimed that Ben Roethlisberger sexually assaulted her. That's right. The tapes are out. She describes a superstar with a short temper and her fears of what might happen next. You will hear this for the very first time.

We have got this newly-released recording. That's ahead.

And then topping our crime list, was the FBI on the verge of arresting Joran van der Sloot just before his trip to Peru? A lot of people are wondering what -- could faster action have prevented Stephany Flores' murder?

We will be on that for you. Stay right there. We will be right back.

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SANCHEZ: Welcome back.

Time for the roundup list, as we bring it to you every day, number one, number two, and number three.

Let's start there at number one. The FBI had Joran van der Sloot in sight, but he didn't pounce -- they didn't pounce on him. CNN has learned today that the Dutch murder suspect was the actual target of an ongoing FBI sting, when they say he tried to shake down the Holloways for money. This was only a month ago.

An undercover agent actually paid van der Sloot something like $10,000 in exchange for the location of Natalee Holloway's body. The FBI says they were building the case against van der Sloot, but then everything changed. By the way, Vanderpol -- I mean -- pardon me -- Interpol says the information he gave to the FBI turned out to be false.

But he kept the money, went to Peru, and the rest you know.

Number two: burning trucks set on fire by militants near Islamabad, the capital of Pakistan. These trucks were bound for U.S. and NATO troops in Afghanistan, loaded with supplies and fuel and vehicles. Several people were killed.

Now, this is what make this is story so interesting. It's not the fact that there's been an incident like this in that part of the world. It's that this happened just six miles from the city of Islamabad, the biggest attack, the biggest loss of lives, the biggest attack by militants that we have ever seen so close to the capital of Pakistan.

What does that mean? CNN is devoted to finding out, and we're going to be working on this story for some time here.

Number three: high water in central parts of Texas. This is not far from San Antonio. Several days of heavy rain shot the Guadalupe River up several feet and out of its banks. Families along the river are being evacuated. And we're heard -- we have heard reports that at least one person has died in this rushing water.

We're going to keep an eye on this one for you. That's it for today's roundup list.

Now (INAUDIBLE) Brand-new tape is coming out from Milledgeville, Georgia. Will Ben Roethlisberger's image take another hit? There's new video from the alleged sexual assault investigation that did not end up in charges. Nonetheless, the evidence is still out there. And because he's a public figure, we get to show it to you.

We're hearing the accuser's versions of what happened that night for the very first time. It is a trending story. And Brooke Baldwin is going to bring us details.

Also, making our oil list, Florida Senator Bill Nelson. He's been very upset with the response from the government and BP. He's still angry. We're going to talk to him live in just two minutes.

Stay right there. I will tell you who else is upset, by the way, on this story. Anderson Cooper has that part of it. Take a listen.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

DANIEL BARRON III, DEEPWATER HORIZON EXPLOSION SURVIVOR: Every time you close your eyes, every time you go to bed, it's like a -- it's like a never-ending movie that just keeps replaying in your head. And, you know, you can't sleep. You can't focus. You know, you just have a hard time dealing with it.

And then just the little things like, you know, hearing that hiss, you know, being in a hotel room, and the guy next door to you turns on the water and makes that hissing sound, just brings you out of bed like -- like you're on fire. I mean, it just -- it's really hard.

ANDERSON COOPER, CNN ANCHOR": It's hard for all of you. And it's tough to talk about.

DOUG BROWN, BP EXPLOSION SURVIVOR: It's very hard.

It's like being in a never-ending nightmare. You dream about it. You see it in your sleep. Then we wake up in the morning and we realize it's not a dream. It's real. This really happened to us.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

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SANCHEZ: Welcome back. I'm Rick Sanchez. I want to show you some video now.

Let's show the video, if we could, Dee (ph), of what it looks like 5,000 feet below the surface of the Gulf of Mexico. It's these pictures that's making some wonder now whether we again have been misled about just how much oil has actually been getting out and whether BP has, for the sake of its shareholders, perhaps its own publicity, been giving bad information out.

Senator Bill Nelson is convinced that BP has been playing games with the American people. As far as he knows, BP has been -- quote -- "making it up as they go along."

Senator Nelson is good enough to join us now. He's been questioning BP since the very beginning of this thing.

What do you mean by making it up as they go along, Senator?

SEN. BEN NELSON (D), NEBRASKA: Well, it was in their interests not to -- since they're going to be fined, and they are fined on a per-barrel basis that's escaping into the water -- so, clearly, it was in their interest to minimize.

And, as you know, they first said 1,000 barrels, then 5,000 barrels, then 12,000 barrels. And now they're saying they're capturing 15,000 barrels a day in the present capture, while you still see the streaming live video and you see how much is escaping.

So, it's probably that much as -- or more that's still escaping. So, Rick, who do we believe, given the track record of what we have had? And who do we believe, when it took us a major effort to pry the video out of BP? They didn't want us to see that.

SANCHEZ: I have been reading that there's a Associated Press report out that says that BP had put out a 582-page regional spill plan for the Gulf. And, yet, when this finally happened, it seemed like that plan was either nowhere to be found or simply erroneous in its -- in its execution.

How frustrated are you about this? NELSON: Well, of course, that minimizes it, too. And I think it's all illustrative of the incestuous, cozy relationship that was there between the government regulator and the oil industry. And that went on for decades. And, so, we are where we are.

And I can guarantee you, they're going to clean house over there at the government regulator, and it won't be business as usual in the future.

SANCHEZ: Well, how do you do that, though, when there's something -- you know, I keep seeing all these politicians, maybe -- maybe not in your particular case -- but I keep seeing all these politicians coming forward now and blaming this, or one of them even -- Haley Barbour blaming the media, for example.

And everybody has something to say. But then, when I go in certain Web sites that explain how much money oil and gas has given, I mean, politicians get a ton of money, millions, from the oil and gas industry. It's almost like, how do you then criticize somebody who's helped you get elected in such a -- a big way?

NELSON: Well, that's been the problem.

The oil industry has ruled the roost for decades. They have had their way. And, as a result, let me tell you what happened in the Florida legislature. And you're in my home state.

SANCHEZ: Uh-huh.

NELSON: The Florida legislature -- they basically had the legislature convinced that they were going to drill three miles off the beach in state waters.

SANCHEZ: Hmm.

NELSON: And they were doing that to soften up the opposition out in federal waters, so that they could go out there and drill off of Florida, right in the military testing and training area.

SANCHEZ: Is that going to still happen?

NELSON: Not as long as I'm senator.

(LAUGHTER)

SANCHEZ: I had a feeling that you might say that.

Senator Bill Nelson, we're going to keep tabs on you. And we will keep talking to you, as we continue to go through this thing.

And, by the way, you know, BP is saying there's a good chance they might get almost all of this by some time, like, toward the middle of next week, maybe. You know, I almost know what you're going to say, but do you buy that?

NELSON: Well, let me say that I hope that that's true, because I want that oil stopped gushing out. We have got enough of it in the Gulf already. And it's threatening not only our livelihoods, but it's threatening our culture, our way of life. So, I hope it's true.

SANCHEZ: Huh.

NELSON: We will see.

SANCHEZ: We will just have to cross our fingers.

Senator, always good to talk to you, sir. Thanks so much for taking time to be with us here on RICK'S LIST again.

NELSON: Thanks, Rick.

SANCHEZ: I appreciate it.

All right, despite images like these that prove that oil drilling comes with huge risks, one Louisiana town is still willing to drill, but where and how?

Also, back to our political list and what pundits have been calling the year of the woman. Didn't we have that during the last election, when Hillary Clinton and Sarah Palin were running for the country's top jobs? We wanted to put that in perspective and show you just how influential women already are when it comes to politics.

That's ahead.

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SANCHEZ: Welcome back.

Have you seen some of these headlines about primaries last night? "Ladies night" in quotations, or "Chicks in Charge" said another newspaper, "Year of the Woman."

Well, I got to tell you, my staff, the folks who produce this show, they are mostly female, and most of them took issue with some of these headlines, like it's new that women can be successful and win at something like an election and hold a powerful position in the United States? Well, guess what, headline writers? It's not -- not.

Here's why. Let me tell you something. We have made lists of things that we think you ought to know. Did you know, for example, there are currently five governors that are women? Have you heard of the Fortune 500? Fifteen CEOs on the list of CEOs of huge corporations in the United States, women.

Senators in the United States, how many of them are women? Seventeen. Congresswomen, representatives, 73 -- women in politics, in business, already succeeding. Last night, yes, it was news. It wasn't earth-shattering, and shouldn't be written as such. Just thought you would want to know.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We're paying them to -- to check on him and be with him. They just threw him in the plane like anybody else.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

SANCHEZ: A kid gets a surprise trip to Cleveland. Only problem is, the airline was supposed to fly him to Boston. Oops. That's ahead.

Also, how's in for a getaway plan? Beat the police by jumping into the Rio Grande, and then what do you think happens? Well, guess what? The chase is on, and you get to watch it.

The LIST scrolls on as well, your list, RICK'S LIST.

We will be right back.

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SANCHEZ: OK. Here we go.

How would you like to make $1,000? Really, $1,000? All you have to do is watch this video that I'm about to show you right now -- $1,000.

All right. This is just plain strange.

Take a look at this surveillance video from Spokane, Washington. That guy is stealing a doormat, of all things. Now, why in the world would someone be stealing a doormat? I mean, isn't that kind of pathetic?

But how much do you think the owners are offering as a reward for anyone who tells them who that man is and returns the doormat? A thousand dollars!

Now, you're thinking, that's got to be some kind of doormat, right? No. Listen.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's really the principle. We feel there's value to us to really get down underneath and find out if this is actually the person we've had other issues with in the past.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

SANCHEZ: So there you go. It's the principle of the thing. They think he may have done something else.

If you recognize that man, you could make a quick grand, and all you have got to do is call Spokane police.

All right. You saw me with an alligator earlier. It turns out I wasn't the only one who got a little bit of a scaly surprise visitor this week. No.

Students at a Tampa Bay middle school arrived to see a seven-foot alligator on the property Monday. Florida Fish and Wildlife were called in. They tracked it, and they had to, because it's big and it was already there, they had to put it down. And now someone's got a very nice belt.

A man leads police on a high-speed chase in Texas. The suspect didn't give up. He plunged his car into the Rio Grande and swam into Mexico, escaping.

But wait. It's still not over, folks.

Border Patrol gets called in, divers get called in, men with guns like that guy. Even the Mexican military joins in.

Why did the driver put up such a fight? Well, wait until you see what was in his car.

You ready? You ready?

There you go -- stacks and wads and stacks and bails of money. Dollars, lots of it. There's Mr. Benjamin himself.

You can see all of our "Fotos" on my blog every day. Just go to CNN.com/ricksanchez.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

SEN. DAVID VITTER (R), LOUISIANA: To shut down every exploratory rig in deep water, 33, and 120,000 jobs or so to boot, isn't punishing BP more. It's punishing the people of the Gulf Coast.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

SANCHEZ: What was I saying a little while ago about politicians and the oil and gas industry? Despite the dangers and the environmental risks, one Louisiana town says, "Drill, baby drill," or they'll lose, baby, lose. Or will they?

That's ahead.

Also, this is the woman who claimed Ben Roethlisberger sexually assaulted her. The Super Bowl MVP was never charged. But guess what's happening now? The video with some of the comments and some of the evidence that no one has yet seen has been released, and we're going to share it with you.

Brooke Baldwin is following this. It's part of her trending stories. She joins us next.

Stay right here. We'll be right back.

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SANCHEZ: Boy, just when you think the Ben Roethlisberger story is over -- and, you know, in some ways it is, although --

BROOKE BALDWIN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: In some ways it is case closed.

SANCHEZ: Yes, except he's not going to be playing in the NFL for quite some time. He just returned to practice.

BALDWIN: A couple games.

SANCHEZ: Well, anywhere between six, four. We'll see.

BALDWIN: Yes.

SANCHEZ: He's got problems. But beside his problems, this was a big case. You followed it, and now we understand that some of the evidence that we never got to see, we only heard about.

BALDWIN: Right.

SANCHEZ: You were reporting it, but now we're actually able to see what everyone was talking about down there, that even the police said, Ben, grow up.

BALDWIN: Man, oh, man. We were talking about this story for a while.

We're talking about Ben Roethlisberger. And again, we now know he was never charged -- right? -- in that alleged rape that happened early March down in my Milledgeville, Georgia. But we are now hearing today from his accuser for the very first time. We're seeing her.

Of course, we're protecting her identity, but Georgia Bureau of Investigations, GBI, released 15 (ph) different DVDs. We're talking audio, pictures, from their highly-publicized investigation.

We are also seeing for the first time inside this nightclub with pictures here, inside the nightclub. It was the Capital Club in my Milledgeville, Georgia, where this whole thing allegedly went down. Also, pictures of the star QB -- there is some video inside the club -- also pictures of the star QB with some of these younger women, again, that very night.

Now, the accuser here, she was 20 years of age. She was interviewed --

SANCHEZ: That's him with the cap turned backwards there, right?

BALDWIN: He had a black T-shirt on. Yes, it's tough to see. It's blurry. But he's in there, OK?

So, she's interviewed a couple times by police, and it's fascinating listening -- we disguised her voice, we want to make that clear. But when you listen to her voice, she was very calm.

She talked about his short temper a lot, and she also explains what specifically happened that night. And here's what happened.

According to her, they were all doing shots -- he, his friends, his bodyguard, she, her girlfriend. And they were all doing shots. And what happened was, at one point, Roethlisberger, according to this young woman, his bodyguard actually grabbed her arm, walked her down this hallway.

I want to pick up her conversation right there. Again, we're concealing her face, her voice, to protect her identity. But here she is.

SANCHEZ: Wow.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He, like, had me sit at this stool. And then three seconds later, Ben comes back there and he's already out of his pants.

And I was like, "No, this is not right. I don't agree with this."

I got up and I went out of this first door I saw which happened to be, like, a bathroom, and he followed me and shut the door. And that's when he proceed to have sex with me.

And the whole time I said, "No, we really don't need to do this. This isn't OK." Like, "We shouldn't be doing this."

Then he just got up and left. And then, like, I walked out. And that's when we, like -- my friends ran up to me, and we left, and we went to the nearest cop car that we saw.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

SANCHEZ: Just to be clear in case people just happen to be joining us, they were shocked to find out that it was a man who accused him, her voice was changed to sound like that.

BALDWIN: Right. Again --

SANCHEZ: That was not a man saying he was raped by Ben Roethlisberger.

BALDWIN: No, that was a 20-year-old female college student, but we did that because we want to protect her identity.

But again, you know, we were talking when this story sort of came about, and the accuser did admit to wearing -- you remember that nametag? It's an acronym I can't go into on TV, but it was an explicit nametag. And she said, "Yes, I did have it on," but she denied leading Roethlisberger on.

She also was very adamant, yes, he did rape her. Roethlisberger, again, he was never charged. His attorney has come forward denying he did anything wrong. And as you mentioned, Roger Goodell has suspended him for possibly --

(CROSSTALK)

SANCHEZ: Four to six weeks, depending on his behavior. Apparently, things are going well. He's been seeing the doctors.

It's pretty obvious he has some issues with substance abuse, among other things.

I mean, how old was that girl?

BALDWIN: Twenty.

SANCHEZ: She was a kid.

BALDWIN: Twenty. Twenty.

SANCHEZ: OK.

What a story. It's amazing.

BALDWIN: Got another story for you.

SANCHEZ: What have you got?

BALDWIN: This is a real kid.

SANCHEZ: Another trender?

BALDWIN: This is another trender. This is a 9-year-old.

You have kids. Imagine this happening.

Parents, listen. You have a 9-year-old boy. His name is Kieren Kershaw. He was put on a Delta plane from Spokane, Washington, headed to Boston to visit his grandparents.

Well, he had a layover in Minneapolis -- and there he is. Somehow, Delta mixed up his paperwork with another child traveling, didn't check their names. I don't know what specifically happened, but the next thing little Kieren knew, he wound up in Cleveland.

SANCHEZ: Cleveland?

BALDWIN: Whoops. Take a listen.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

KIEREN KERSHAW, LOST CHILD: It was just weird. I was like, I'm supposed to be in Boston, not Cleveland. It was just weird.

LARRY KERSHAW, GRANDFATHER: There's another child, a little girl, that came to Boston. We don't even know who she was. So, you mean to tell me you mixed up a boy and a girl and their paperwork?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This is not lost luggage. This is a child.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

SANCHEZ: Could you imagine? And he's a Patriots fan. He's not a Browns fan. BALDWIN: He's like, what am I doing in Cleveland? Come on! Come on!

I like LeBron James, but come on now.

(LAUGHTER)

SANCHEZ: So Delta screwed up?

BALDWIN: Delta, mea culpa. Here's what they're saying. We did reach out to them.

They're saying, "The children were all under airline supervision at all times. Upon learning of the situation, we immediately contacted their guardians to advise them that their children had been rerouted to their final destination and were en route."

Delta did eventually get Kieren to Boston. And I should mention, he did say -- the airline workers did say, hey, we're sorry. And I listened a little bit more to his interview. He said, "Oh, I'm not so bothered by it. I got some free food and, really cool, I got some Dunkin' Donuts."

But he's fine.

SANCHEZ: You know, you put them in first class, you put some good-looking flight attendants around them --

BALDWIN: No problem. Give him some medallion miles, send him to Hawaii.

SANCHEZ: -- "I'm fine, mom." That's a funny story.

BALDWIN: Yes.

SANCHEZ: All right. You know what else we've got today?

BALDWIN: What?

SANCHEZ: Well, Bernie Madoff, remember him?

BALDWIN: Yes.

SANCHEZ: He has a message for his victims. Now, it's not the kind of message that you think someone would give. In fact, this one is, let's see, somewhere between absurd, profane and stupid.

You decide. We're coming back with "The List U Don't Want 2 Be On."

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SANCHEZ: Welcome back. I'm Rick Sanchez.

Look, if you are already in prison, convicted of a white-collar crime, you're obviously eligible for this next list that we do every day. Right? But sometimes people will take it a step further and they will pour salt in the wound.

When they do that, when they take it even beyond the pale, they move up to the number-one slot. Let's do now our number one on "The List U Don't Want 2 Be On."

Bernie Madoff in the midst of a 150-year prison sentence for constructing the biggest Ponzi scheme in history. Now, remember, he squeezed $65 billion out of investors who put their trust in him. Bad enough. But that's not why he's on our list today.

Have you heard? "New York Magazine" has a new article about Madoff's time in prison, replete with quotes from some of his fellow inmates. That's right. The people he's in there with have decided to, well, dish on Bernie.

One of them asked him about his victims, and he said, "F my victims. I carried them for 20 years. And now I'm doing 150 years."

Another prisoner is quoted as telling Madoff that stealing from old ladies kind of, well, F'd up. Madoff's reply: "Well, that's what I did."

Other prisoners are quoted in the article calling Madoff their hero. They think he may be the greatest con of all time. And you know what? They may very well be right, which is why he continues to be on "The List U Don't Want 2 Be On."

Barbara Boxer, Harry Reid. Now you're going to know who they are going to face in the November elections. Is the hard part behind them? Are their seats safe? What happens?

Wolf Blitzer joins me next. His forte, politics. What we'll discuss? Politics.

We'll be right back. That's next.

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SANCHEZ: Hey, we've got some visitors here, as we often -- I'll tell you, it's the busiest summer. Look at these folks.

Guys, say hello to Mr. Blitzer. Wave. Say, "Hello, Mr. Blitzer."

Isn't that respectful, to be called "Mr. Blitzer" like that?

Huh, Wolf? You're a "Mr. Blitzer." What do your kids call you?

WOLF BLITZER, CNN ANCHOR: Mr. Blitzer.

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SANCHEZ: Just don't call me late for dinner, right?

BLITZER: Yes.

SANCHEZ: Hey, good to see you, Wolf, as usual.

BLITZER: Thanks, Rick.

SANCHEZ: Let's talk a little bit about what happened last night. And, really, I think most importantly, let's move forward, you and I now, and talk about what happens in the future.

BLITZER: All right.

SANCHEZ: Harry Reid, for example, your thoughts on that race as it comes up in Nevada?

BLITZER: It's going to be exciting out in Nevada, the race out there. Sharon Angle, you know, she's got a lot of support from the Tea Party movement.

Once folks begin to know some of her views -- they are pretty controversial on a lot of issues, and very, very different from Harry Reid. So, a lot of the experts I've been talking to think he's breathing a little bit easier right now, but don't underestimate the Tea Party. They can really mobilize a lot of support.

SANCHEZ: It's interesting, though, because, you know, a lot of folks were thinking (INAUDIBLE) was going to be a tougher battle for him. Word out of Nevada is that Harry Reid is actually happy that Angle won.

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BLITZER: Yes, because they think they can position her, they can portray her as really being on the fringe right now on a lot of the issues that she's taken. So maybe they are breathing a little bit easier, but they've got a fight on their hands.

SANCHEZ: You know, speaking of fight, a lot of conservatives that I talk to and read are saying that they're all but convinced that Barbara Boxer is going to be going down in California. They think this is going to be the big take for them, conservatives do.

I'm not sure exactly what the other side is saying, what the liberals and the Dems are saying. But what do you make of that race, the Barbara Boxer race?

BLITZER: Well, it's going to be a fiercely fought battle. A lot of money is going to be spent.

I wouldn't underestimate Barbara Boxer either. She's a very tenacious person.

What they will try to do -- Carly Fiorina really moved to the right in getting this Republican nomination successfully. And on some of the social issues -- her positions, for example, opposing abortion rights for women, opposing what she calls amnesty for illegal immigrants -- some of the other issues are support for guns. You know, California is a relatively moderate state, and they're going to portray her as being a real right-winger, so it's going to be lively. SANCHEZ: And how are the Bills going to do next year?

BLITZER: I can only hope and pray.

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SANCHEZ: Wolf, I always enjoy you.

BLITZER: I will tell you one thing very cool. A few weeks ago, I gave the commencement address at Niagara University in Buffalo. And Marv Levy, the former Bills' coach, was getting an honorary degree, and it was just a pleasure speaking with him because one of my long- time heroes.

SANCHEZ: Even when he turns 150, he's still going to be healthier than both you and me and our dads.

BLITZER: You're absolutely right. He was in great shape.

SANCHEZ: This guy's unbelievable.

BLITZER: Yes.

SANCHEZ: Wolf, always a pleasure talking to you. Good luck today in "THE SITUATION ROOM." I'm sure, as usual, it will be fantastic.

BLITZER: All right.

SANCHEZ: All right.

For 51 days, we've seen the consequences of an uncontrollable oil leak. It's enough to make people say no to drilling unless you live in the town that we are about to show you.

Now, there's this relationship in the Gulf between the people who live there and the oil and gas industry, and it kind of goes both ways from time to time. It's a complicated, nuanced story, but one we think you ought to see.

It's here when we come back.

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SANCHEZ: Unless something changes, drilling in deep water will resume at some time. But what would happen if all of the oil companies just took their deepwater rigs and said, you know, we're out of here? Well, then what about the people who live down there in the Gulf?

This is one of those yin and yang stories. My colleague, Carol Costello, asked the people who feel it the most.

Here she is.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) CAROL COSTELLO, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): It is an immense port, 1,400 acres. designed to meet every need an oil company might have.

(on camera): What do you call this area?

CHET CHIASSON, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, PORT FOURCHON, LOUISIANA: We're in Port Fourchon, Louisiana.

COSTELLO: And this is the Wal-Mart of the --

CHIASSON: -- oil and gas industry, yes, it is.

BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: We will suspend action on 33 deepwater exploratory wells currently being drilled in the Gulf of Mexico.

COSTELLO (voice-over): Chiasson is eager to criticize President Obama's six-month moratorium on new deepwater drilling in the Gulf. Seventeen oil companies, including BP, Shell and Chevron are affected and every one of their rigs is serviced by this port, from welders to caterers to those who taxi rig workers out to the platforms.

(on camera): If the moratorium lasts more than six months, what do you fear happening.

CHIASSON: What we fear happening is losing 50 percent of the business that we have in Port Fourchon.

COSTELLO: So you think the oil companies will just pick up their rigs and move some place else?

CHIASSON: Right.

COSTELLO (voice-over): Like to Brazil's Santos Basin, where deepwater oil has been discovered and off the South African coast also said to be rich in oil. At least one oil company that does business to the gulf, and Anadarko Oil told me Port Fourchon's worries are premature. But the company did say this at a news release "We are evaluating opportunities to reallocate some of the 2010 capital from the Gulf to other areas of our global portfolio."

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The crisis needs to be re-addressed.

COSTELLO: The Louisiana Oil and Gas Association is now posting videos of oil industry workers and family members on its Web site to exert pressure on President Obama to lift the moratorium.

MARK MILLER, MARLIN OIL & GAS: If the moratorium stays in place, we will all suffer -

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Our economy will go to hell in a hand basket.

COSTELLO: Louisiana's governor has joined in too, sending a letter to the president urging the federal government to move quickly to ensure that all deep water drilling is in proper compliance. Even as he shows and tells what can happen when safety measures are allegedly not followed.

Louisiana Senator David Vitter is pressing, too.

SEN. DAVID VITTER (R), LOUISIANA: I'm mad as hell at BP like all Gulf Coast residents are. But to shut down every exploratory rig in deep water 33 and 120,000 jobs or so to boot, isn't punishing BP more, it's punishing the people of the gulf coast.

COSTELLO: The president says he will not lift the moratorium until investigators figure out what happened with BP. If that takes less than six months or more, so be it.

(on camera): Maybe investigators will have more of what they need when BP's CEO, Tony Hayward, testifies before a congressional subcommittee. That show will come your way on June 17th.

Carol Costello, CNN, Washington.

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SANCHEZ: "THE SITUATION ROOM" now. And here's Wolf Blitzer.