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House Republicans Say No to Bill Aimed at Getting Money to Help Sick Heroes of 9/11; Man Publishes Personal Information of Facebook Users; Authorities Say Large Concentrations of Oil Dispersed in Gulf
Aired July 30, 2010 - 15:00 ET
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DON LEMON, CNN ANCHOR: Hello, everyone. Rick is off. I'm Don Lemon, and I'm going to take you through the LIST today.
On day 102 of the Gulf oil disaster, guess what? They can't find the oil. They can't find it. They're still looking for it right now. So, where is it? Well, we're on a mission to find the missing oil today, plus a whole lot more for you.
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LEMON (voice-over): Here's what's making the LIST today.
House Republicans say no to money that would help victims of 9/11.
REP. PETER KING (R-NY), HOMELAND SECURITY COMMITTEE RANKING MEMBER: You could pass this bill if you wanted to. You are in the control. You have the power. You have the responsibility.
LEMON: And a New York Democrat is furious.
REP. ANTHONY WEINER (D), NEW YORK: It's Republicans wrapping their arms around Republicans, rather than doing the right thing on behalf of the heroes! It is a shame!
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I was just like, don't move. I tried to hold him for the police. They took so long.
LEMON: The owner of a cell phone store doesn't bother calling the cops on this one. You've got see him stop this crime in progress. It's "Fotos."
This man says Tennessee needs a black congressman and he wants the job.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It is as if only white people live in the great state of Tennessee. We lack representation.
LEMON: But the president has offered his rare endorsement to the white candidate.
The lists you need to know about. Who's today's most intriguing? Who's making news on Twitter? It's why I keep a list. Pioneering tomorrow's news right now.
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LEMON: Topping the LIST right now, the bad blood between Democrats and Republicans.
The open rancor was on full display last night on the floor of the House of Representatives. You've seen some of it today. We're going to show you a little bit more. It's not just the obvious bitterness of the blowout that lands it on the LIST today. It's the issue that prompted it in the first place.
Now, the latest example of how Republicans and Democrats can't play well together, can't pay in the same sandbox, it comes during the debate and the eventual defeat of a bill to provide health care to 9/11 first-responders.
You may have heard that New York Congressman Anthony Weiner, he really lost his cool last night. You could say he threw a tirade, went into a tirade, because he did. I will show you Weiner's minute- and-a-half tirade in its entirety in just a little bit.
But first, I want you to hear New York Republican Peter King. He's the congressman who spoke immediately before Weiner, who Weiner addresses in his outburst.
Here's King.
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KING: What we are doing tonight is a cruel hoax and a charade. Everyone knows this bill won't get the two-thirds majority required on the suspension calendar. Everyone also knows that this bill would pass with a clear majority if the Democrat leadership would allow it to come to the floor under the regular procedures of the House.
The reason HR-847 is not being brought up under regular order is that the majority party is petrified of having its members face a potential vote on illegal immigration.
They say they want Republican support, yet they never consulted even one Republican before they made the corporate tax increases to pay for it. They say they wanted Republican support before they pass this bill, but they never applied that standard when they ran through the stimulus, health care, cap and trade, or financial regulatory reform.
No, you only apply it to cops and firefighters and construction workers. What a sad and pathetic double standard. These heroes deserve better than they are receiving here tonight.
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LEMON: All right, so that's what started it. That's what got Weiner fired up. Now, as promised, here's how Congressman Weiner, a Democrat from New York, responded.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The gentleman from New York is recognized.
REP. JERROLD NADLER (D), NEW YORK: Mr. Speaker, I yield one minute to the distinguished gentleman from New York, Mr. Weiner.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The gentleman is recognized.
WEINER: Great courage to wait until all members have already spoken and then stand up and wrap your arms around procedure.
We see it in the United States Senate every single day, where members say, we want amendments. We want debate. We want amendments, but we're still a no. And then we stand up and say, oh, if only we had a different process, we would vote yes.
You vote yes if you believe yes. You vote in favor of something if you believe it's the right thing! If you believe it's the wrong thing, you vote no.
We are following a procedure --
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WEINER: I will not yield to the gentleman, and the gentleman will observe regular order.
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WEINER: The gentleman will observe regular order!
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WEINER: The gentleman think that if he gets up and yells, he's going to intimidate people into believing he's right. He is wrong! The gentleman is wrong! The gentleman is providing cover for his colleagues, rather than doing the right thing!
It's Republicans wrapping their arms around Republicans, rather than doing the right thing on behalf of the heroes! It is a shame, a shame!
If you believe this is a bad idea to provide health care, then vote no! But don't give me the cowardly view that, oh, if it was a different procedure.
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WEINER: The gentleman will observe regular order and sit down! I will not! The gentleman will sit. The gentleman is correct in sitting.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The gentleman will suspend. The gentleman will suspend. The gentleman is recognized.
WEINER: I will not stand here and listen to my colleagues say, oh, if only I had a different procedure that allows us to stall, stall, stall and then vote no.
Instead of standing up and defending your colleagues in voting no on this humane bill, you should urge them to vote yes, something the gentleman has not done!
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LEMON: All right. So, the bill, it failed, with just 12 House Republicans supporting it. And you can see more of this bipartisan chasm in the exchange between House Democrat Michael McMahon and Republican Dan Lungren.
It starts with McMahon telling a story of a first-responder who lost a lung. Listen.
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REP. MICHAEL MCMAHON (D), NEW YORK: I asked him, what does he think about as he kind of fought for his breath sitting on that train station?
He said, the only thing I think about is making sure that my medical bills are paid, so my family doesn't have to worry about it. That's all we're asking.
And, so, I say to you that, if this is an entitlement, you should have your mouth washed out with soap, because, you lie, Mr. Speaker. And if I say to you that you think that this is some sort of tax gimmick and you want to protect offshore corporations, and -- because we want to close a loophole, then I say you should have your head examined, because there's something wrong with you.
And if you say that you support this bill, but, because of process, because of procedure, you will not vote with us tonight, then I say to you, speak to your confessor because your judgment day is coming.
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LEMON: That's not the end of it, because, not so fast, says California's Lungren.
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REP. DAN LUNGREN (R), CALIFORNIA: I don't have to go to my father confessor, as someone suggested, to say that I cannot support this bill. I did not believe that it was going to have attached to it a job- killing provision which is going to hurt jobs in my district and throughout California. I did not know we were going to have the open- ended type of program that was in Title I.
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LEMON: So what about the people this bill was to benefit?
John Feal is one of them. He's a demolition worker who rushed to Ground Zero to help with rescue efforts and is founder of the FealGood Foundation to help 9/11 first-responders and their families.
He joins us from Babylon, New York.
Thank you, sir, for joining us.
JOHN FEAL, FOUNDER, FEALGOOD FOUNDATION: Don, thank you for having me. I'm a big fan.
LEMON: Thank you very much.
Listen, how do you feel about this bill, the bill failing?
FEAL: Well, one, we knew it was going to happen. The way it was put on the floor, as a suspension bill, we knew it would fail.
Both congressmen, King and Weiner, are right, but both congressmen, King and Weiner, are wrong. One said it was a sham. It was a sham. One said it was a shame, and it is a shame. Because of bipartisan, reckless politics, it's the 9/11 responders that suffer. Because two parties can't agree and have different ideologies on how to help somebody, we're the ones who suffer.
They should have voted like an American last night, instead of like a Republican or a Democrat. That vote should have been 435 to nothing. Instead, we have to wait another six weeks before they come back from their long, overrated recess, and, hopefully, we get the floor --
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FEAL: I'm sorry.
LEMON: Yes, go ahead. Finish your thought and then I will go on with my question.
FEAL: Well, we have to wait for them to come back and hopefully we put the bill back on the floor at the end of September, and, as a regular rules bill, which only needs 218 votes, and we know, we're confident we're going to win. But the thing is, Don, we're running out of time.
LEMON: Yes.
Let me ask you this, because Carolyn Maloney, who sponsored the bill, she says that she is going to take this up after the recess. But let me ask you, you said it was a sham. That's because Republican opponents say they were concerned about the $7.4 billion cost of the program. And money is an issue right now. We will go on about the Democrats after this.
But money is an issue right now. Do you think they have a point?
FEAL: The bill does not add -- Don, the bill does not add to the deficit. There's no more -- this bill does not touch the deficit. The congressman from California who said this was a tax gimmick, this is not a tax gimmick.
And if you're going to put 9/11 responders on the table and their health and their welfare -- and 900 have died since 9/11 -- against foreign companies having to pay tax or tax-cheat, then it's a no- brainer.
And when they call this an entitlement, you know what? The men and women who risked their lives without prejudice nine years ago, they are entitled to this, because they worked under the guideline that Christie Todd Whitman said that the air was safe to breathe.
And now all of these men and women now are deathly ill. So, yes, it is an entitlement. They're entitled to this.
LEMON: So, let's talk about the Democrats now.
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LEMON: Instead of a simple majority, Democrats used rules requiring a wider majority for approval to prevent Republicans from offering amendments on the floor that they said would embarrass them in an election year.
And here's what Michael Bloomberg says, the mayor of New York. He criticized both parties. And he says: "It was wrong for the overwhelming majority of Republicans to vote against the bill, and it was wrong for Democrats to bring the bill to the floor under rules that made passage so much more difficult."
Mr. Feal?
FEAL: I agree with the mayor. But I hope the mayor just doesn't make a statement today and that he gets more involved. As one of the most powerful politicians, elected officials in the country, he needs to be more involved, and he needs to insert himself more, because he's the mayor of New York City, and thousands in New Yorkers are sick and dying from their heroic actions.
I have the utmost respect for all of these elected officials. I have worked closely with all of them. And I know this bill better than all of them. And, Don, high school was hard on me, but I know this bill inside and out. And I have been advocating it now for almost five years.
I have made enough trips to D.C. to circumnavigate the Earth. And I'm confident, in September, we will pass it. But Congress has to get their act together.
LEMON: John Feal, your foundation is the FealGood Foundation. Is there a Web site? How can people find out more?
FEAL: Don, they can all go to www.fealgoodfoundation.com. It's F-E-A-L, like my last name. And they can learn about the horrific, horrific, horrifying stories of 9/11 responders and what they're going through, people losing their homes, losing their cars, not having gas to get to their chemotherapy appointments.
This is un-American. And I blame this on Congress. And the Senate, they better take notice, because, when we do pass this in the House, we're going to gun for the Senate and they better start voting yes, too.
LEMON: John Feal, thank you, sir. Have a good weekend.
FEAL: God bless you, Don. And God bless America.
LEMON: Thank you.
Let's move on now and talk about immigration. Arizona can't do everything it wanted on immigration. So, now what? What do they do? And why are people still protesting? That's ahead.
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ADMIRAL THAD ALLEN (RET.), NATIONAL INCIDENT COMMANDER: It's more dispersed and harder to find. We're going to try to be as aggressive as we can with skimmers offshore to try and deal with this oil offshore. But, again, we're finding less and less oil as we move forward.
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LEMON: Less and less oil we're finding as we move forward. Wow. Will comments like those cause BP and cleanup workers to pull out of the disaster zone too soon? We find out next on the LIST.
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LEMON: Isn't it interesting, after 102 days, they can't find the oil? What is going on?
So, at the top of our follow-up list, on day 102 of the Gulf Coast oil disaster, incoming BP CEO Bob Dudley was on the Gulf today meeting with residents. He say she's hopeful his company will attempt its static kill process on Tuesday. That's where mud and cement are pumped into the well to try to plug the leak.
As for seafood, the FDA has finished extensive testing, and the agency likes what it sees so far. It announced that portions of the state waters east of the Mississippi have been reopened to fishing. That's good news.
Now Dudley also wanted to stress that BP has made -- quote -- "long-term commitment to the region." Here he is.
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ROBERT DUDLEY, PRESIDENT & CEO, BP GULF COAST RESTORATION ORGANIZATION: Definitely, in terms of the effort, no, it's, not too soon for a scale-back.
We haven't permanently, finally killed the well. I don't think we will see any more oil going into beaches. You will see the evidence of a pullback because we have boom across the shores all the way from Florida to Louisiana.
Those only last for a certain number of tide cycles. So, you will certainly see that pulling back. And where there's no oil on the beaches, you probably don't need people walking up in down in hazmat suits. So, you will see that kind of a pullback.
But commitment, absolutely no pullback.
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LEMON: OK, so a commitment, no pullback.
Joining me now is Jefferson Parish Councilman Chris Roberts.
So, Chris, when he says, no pullback, long-term commitment, do you believe him? Because now they can't find the oil and they will say, hey, it's all clean. Who do you believe? What do you believe?
CHRIS ROBERTS, JEFFERSON PARISH, LOUISIANA, COUNCILMAN: No, we don't see that. We have a lot of fishermen that are very nervous right now because their only way of life has been working for BP with this oil spill.
The big question still remains is about how much seafood is there and can it be caught? And that's causing a lot of people to be very nervous right now. And some of the actions recently by BP don't indicate to us that their commitment is long-term.
LEMON: So, Councilman Roberts, right now you don't want to see any downsizing; is that correct?
ROBERTS: Absolutely not, not until our people can get back to work. We have said all along we don't want to see BP go bankrupt on this event, but at the same time, too, we don't want our constituents and our fishermen going bankrupt either.
And you can't answer the question right now, if you put a shrimp boat out there, how much shrimp can you catch? There's a certain amount that needs to be caught in order to break even and be profitable. And we don't know what the long-term impact is here.
And, so far, I don't see anyone taking the lead to try and answer those questions. And those are things that we're being faced to have to answer without any of the facts. And they need to be straightforward and tell us exactly what we can expect. LEMON: There is a big unknown out there, a what-if, because no one knows. Just because they're not seeing it doesn't mean it's not there, doesn't mean there's some portion of it still not affecting the water.
So, listen, if it does come to a point where you feel, OK, it's OK to pull back now, you would want the parish presidents and the locals down there to be involved in the process with BP. Are you trying to get that done?
ROBERTS: Absolutely.
There was a meeting yesterday with all of the parish presidents from Southeast Louisiana trying to press that issue. We are the ones that are on the first line. We're getting hit with the hard questions. We seeing the grief in the eyes of these families when they don't know whether or not they can earn a living.
And I think we should have a seat at table. It's unfortunate that after 101 days was the first time that BP representatives and the Coast Guard got together with local officials, because when the phones is ringing, they're not contacting Admiral Allen, they're not contacting Mr. Dudley. They're contacting their local officials.
And we need to have answers to be able to give to them. And I can understand that if you've been a fishermen and your family's been doing this as a way of life for years and now the big question is, can we earn a living from here, then I think at this point that BP needs to keep the efforts ramped up. They need to keep these people on their payroll because they have an obligation for causing this situation and not allowing people to earn a living based upon what they normally do.
LEMON: And, quite frankly, Councilman, BP is employing -- they're employing people right now who might otherwise not have work because they can't fish or they can't get to do what they should be doing because of the oil.
ROBERTS: They are. Right now they're employing them. But the key is, is that, is that going to last until our seafood industry returns to some degree of normalcy?
LEMON: That's what I mean, yes.
ROBERTS: There's a big question about the oysters. There's a big question about the shrimp. And I'm not talking about whether or not it's safe to eat, because our seafood is being tested now more than it's ever been in the history.
What we're talking about is, can you harvest the quantities that are necessary in order to keep your business afloat? If you send a shrimp boat out there and you're only catching 30 percent of what you normally catch, can you pay your bills? No, you can't. That's why we press so hard to try and get these questions answered.
(CROSSTALK) LEMON: And here are the other things. Here's what my mom is calling me saying. She's in Baton Rouge. She goes, I don't know. Are we going to have the shrimp? Are we going to have the gumbo? Are we going to have all that for Christmas? People are worried about that.
There's the intangible that you don't know about. So, if people who live there are worried about the seafood and worried about the effect, maybe the area is sort of tainted with this oil spill, what about the people who may not come there because they don't want to eat the food or they may not even want to get into the Gulf because they will say, hey, they're telling us it's OK, but how do we really know?
ROBERTS: Well, the FDA, along with various state agencies, have been testing all of the seafood.
Our seafood is being tested now more than it ever has been. I feel more comfortable about leaving here today and going to sit down at a restaurant here and dining on New Orleans and Louisiana seafood than I ever have been before.
My concern is not about whether or not it's safe. It's about, can we meet the demand? Can these businesses produce what's necessary in order to stay afloat? And that's the question that everybody's trying to get an answer for that so far no one's been forthright about.
LEMON: Jefferson Parish Councilman Chris Roberts, thank you, sir, for your candor. Good luck to you.
ROBERTS: Thank you very much.
LEMON: Arizona's immigration law, you see people are upset right there. Now it's in effect, with most of the controversial and toughest parts really blocked. So, what's in, what's out, and what's next? That's a big unknown. It's on Jessica Yellin's list today. We will join her live because our LIST scrolls on.
Hello, Ms. Yellin.
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CALLER: Hey, Rick. Roland (ph) with -- from Utah.
Just wanted to make a comment on the immigration issue. I think we need to pick our poison. Yes, that population does strain and stress our social service dollars. But you also need to think about those individuals are the only individuals that will take care of our $2.7 billion agricultural industry.
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LEMON: Very good question there, Roland.
Welcome back, everyone. I'm Don Lemon. Rick is off today.
Next up on the LIST, the heated debate over that controversial Arizona immigration law. Because of a judge's ruling, only part of that law took effect this week. And it may have unintended consequences for both Republicans and President Barack Obama.
Jessica Yellin is in Phoenix, Arizona, where she has been covering this story all week and doing a darn great job doing it.
Jessica, one outcome of this controversy could be increased voter registration among Latinos.
JESSICA YELLIN, CNN NATIONAL POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT: It's true, Don.
And it's something you might not think about naturally. But when we have been at all those protests all week long, there have been folks doing voter registration drives every step of the way largely organized by a group called Voto Latino, which is nonpartisan, but clearly more toward the view that they're opposed to SB-1070, this law.
And their message is they want to get unregistered Latinos who are eligible to vote registered. They say in this state, there are 400,000 Latinos who are eligible to vote who are not registered. They plan to drive up registration numbers and participation by 15 percent in the coming November elections.
Now, I can't independently verify those numbers, but it does track with the overall demographics of the state. So, bottom line, what you have is a huge growing population that's increasingly politically engaged. The groups say this is a political watershed moment for them.
And what you could see is more Latinos participating in these political decisions about issues like SB-1070. And they tend to be going more to the Democratic Party than the Republican Party, so, one of those unintended consequences the GOP could see from SB-1070, Don.
LEMON: So, listen, Latinos, Jessica, helped to elect President Barack Obama. How is this immigration showdown, if at all -- has it affected his relationship with them?
YELLIN: It has. He was -- had overwhelming support among Latinos. The Pew Research Center found that in January of this year, his approval among Latinos was 71 percent.
But guess what? Their latest numbers show that he's fallen to 58 percent. That's a 13 percent drop. CNN's own numbers track with that. And we have found at CNN that it's because of the president's position on immigration reform and also -- or his failure to act, I should say, on immigration reform and also because he hasn't been able to turn around the economy.
Big picture, what it means is, if you might recall, the president promised, Don, during the campaign that he would take up, introduce and get a comprehensive immigration bill done his first year. He just didn't. The fact that he's objected to this Arizona law is really cold comfort for a lot of Latinos. They're really disappointed with him. So, he's losing support there.
LEMON: Yes, they thought he would have done more by now, that it wouldn't possibly have to get to this point.
Jessica Yellin, we appreciate you on the LIST today with your list. Thank you.
YELLIN: Good to see you.
LEMON: And we know this is really a hot topic and a very controversial one. I just sent out a tweet saying, hey, send me your thoughts on the Arizona immigration law, and I will read them on the air. We want to hear what you're saying. We want to hear from you. I'm going to read some of your tweets. We're going to the Twitter board next.
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LEMON: Listen, we just went to our Jessica Yellin, who was in Phoenix, Arizona, and I'm just getting this information from producers. Do we have a live picture there? This is just coming in here over the wires.
I'm being told that the governor of Arizona, Jan Brewer, and also Senator John McCain about to hold a press conference in just a little bit. Not sure if they're going to be talking about immigration, but I'm sure those questions are going to be coming up.
And again just reading the information here, they said that they are going to hold a press conference there. They're going to be talking about the Air Force decision to station the F-35 Lightning II at Luke Air Force Base.
But, again, immigration has been a very controversial topic there. You know there were protests there yesterday. There were some today. There are some sprouting up all over the country. So, when you have John McCain, who's deeply involved in this, and the governor of Arizona, Jan Brewer, as well in front of reporters, in front of the public, they're bound to get some questions about immigration. And we will dip into it as soon as that starts. So, don't go anywhere.
Let's go to the Twitter board right now. We're going to go to -- let's read Rick's right now, @ricksanchezcnn. So, send us your tweets. Either send them to Rick or send them to me.
Someone says, talking about the 9/11 bill failing today, "This is unfortunate that those heroes of 9/11 will not get their medical expenses paid for because of the, quote, 'process,' as they say." Thank you, Adam.
And then someone else says, this is barn girl 80, says "about time they said no to something and Weenie, we don't care what you say." Weenie, as in Anthony Weiner, "We don't care what you say." We appreciate all of your comments, as you can see here. Thank you very much. We'll move on now.
What would you do if a criminal stuck a gun in your face? Would you cooperate or take a huge gamble and fight back? We'll give you the answer from one Chicago store owner who's been there and knows what this is all about. We'll take a look at this video next on "The List."
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LEMON: I feel like that show "The Soup" when he goes, "Reality show clip time." Let's do "Fotos."
It's Friday. As you race home from work this evening, a reminder to be careful on those roads. The reason I said that, look, oh, my goodness, a racer in Brazil accidentally putting a sunroof on his competitor's truck in Sao Paulo over the weekend. The brakes on his vehicle failed and his truck was launched over and onto a fellow racer's vehicle.
Rescue crews helped free both drivers who walked away, thankfully, unharmed. Can you believe it?
Frightening moments in Chicago. Look closely at this. That's a sales clerk at a store. He leapt into action when a robber held a female customer hostage and demanded money from the cash register. Somehow the clerk got a hold of the robber's gun just in time, saving the female customer, who was grazed, though, by a bullet.
The robber fled and the clerk did not shoot him, saying, I'm not a violent person. The guy's got guts and heart, though. Chicago police are enhancing the video hoping to learn the robber's identity.
And look at that, that is no fly ball in Toronto. What the heck is that? It's an unidentified foam ball. It floated over a ball field at the Blue Jays game. Ground crews chased the bizarre bubble throughout the outfield and stomped it apart, as you saw. But the question remains, what was that stuff? And where did it come from? Got any ideas? Maybe a UFO was taking a bubble bath or something.
Send us a tweet if you know where it came from. You can see all of our "Fotos del Dia" on CNN.com/RickSanchez.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We're saying stop to Islam, stop to Islamic law, stop to brutality.
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LEMON: That man you just heard from right there, he is a Christian pastor who thinks Islam is evil. So he wants to burn Korans on September 11th. Our very own Rick Sanchez confronted him. How do you think that went? That video is straight ahead.
Plus, the feds couldn't catch the alleged "barefoot bandit" for two years, mind you, but then his life on the lam ended when he led police on a high-speed boat chase in the Bahamas. We now have the video of his last moments on the run to show you. That's next right here on "The List."
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LEMON: I have to tell you, this is one of my favorite parts of the show because I get to talk to a very lovely lady.
BROOKE BALDWIN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Aw, shucks.
LEMON: She's lovely and she's smart and she's going to tell us what's trending. And of course I've been warned that Facebook users want to pay attention to this because you're going to warn them -- what are you going to tell them?
BALDWIN: You're on Facebook. I'm on Facebook, and 500 million are actually on Facebook.
Let me tell you what's going on. There's this guy who is basically -- he hasn't hacked accounts, per se. But he's basically put as a lesson, if you will, 100 million people's information, names online for people to see.
So I want to walk you through exactly how this works. If you're on Facebook and if you're wondering, oh, my gosh, is this my information, let me walk you through it.
First of all, what could you see on Facebook? Of course, you can see your name, your pictures, your friends and information about your information. What has Facebook said about this whole thing? They're saying, no private data is available or has been compromised.
But it also kind of compares Facebook to, say, the white pages where you give out your information and you can get your friends' information and vice versa.
And I want to walk you through really, and this is the most important part, if you are on Facebook and you're wondering, could I have been one of the folks who were hacked, right? So you get to the login site, you can download this big long thing but if you don't want to do that, follow my lead here.
So you get onto Facebook right, and you go all the way -- after you log in, and this is my account. You click on privacy settings. Once you're in privacy settings, there's this whole section called "basic directory information." And teeny tiny blue font is this thing called "view settings." Click on "view settings" and it brings this up for you.
At the top, all you have to do to search for me on Facebook, click on this icon right here, and here's where it brings up, all these different choices.
So lesson learned. If you don't want your information out there, do not click on everyone. Make sure it says friends only. I ran through this quickly because this is something we all need to pay attention to. I made it really easy. Go to Rick's blog at CNN.com/ricksanchez.
LEMON: That is a really important -- I don't know if I've ever done it on mine. I shouldn't be telling that to the world. But I don't know who I chose because it was set up. Someone here helped me set it up years ago and I've been rolling with it.
BALDWIN: Exactly. Mine's a personal account, but that's even more reason, right, for me to make sure my privacy settings are correct.
LEMON: You explain it on the blog. Did you do a twit or vid --
BALDWIN: I'm not add cool as you. You did the twit vid.
LEMON: What else do you have?
BALDWIN: Number two on my list, and I'm going to try to walk and talk.
LEMON: You can do that.
BALDWIN: This next story, and I'm telling you this is like a made-for-TV movie all over it. We've been talking about the barefoot bandit. He's this 19-year-old, I won't say kid, young man who picked up like 93,000 of these Facebook fans while he's been running and running from police trying to evade police.
His name is Colt Harris-Moore. He was caught finally in the Bahamas after this high-speed boat chase. It's like a movie. We have video of police actually taking him down. It was shot by the surveillance camera on the yacht docked nearby.
And here it is. There he goes. He runs fast. It's back and forth. It's from the dock. You can see police actually boarding the boat, and they're arrested him while this massive crowd is gathering around to watch.
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Briefly he did plead guilty to illegally landing a plane. He allegedly stole it in the U.S. and crash landed it in the Bahamas. He was deported to the U.S. where he faces a multitude of possible charges in several states, all in connection with this two-year crime spree in which the culprit left footprints, hence, barefoot bandit, several times.
LEMON: He's been doing this since he was 12 years old.
BALDWIN: For seven years he's been evading police. No longer.
LEMON: I want to tell you, that was great stuff.
We're following developing news out of Arizona. We're watching the press conference there, right? And also there's some news that concerns the RNC chair Michael Steele that we're getting in to CNN. You want to stay tuned for that. Plus this --
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REP. ANTHONY WEINER, (D) NEW YORK: You vote yes if you believe yes. You vote in favor of something if you believe it's the right thing. If you believe it's the wrong thing, you vote no. We are following a procedure. I will not yield to the gentleman and the gentleman will observe regular order.
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LEMON: What could possibly get Congressman Anthony Weiner so fired up, in a tizzy? We'll tell you at the top of the hour. And it may get you fired up too.
And also, it is day five of where's the oil? No, really, where's the oil? Underwater, is it in the sand? The answers next on "The List."
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LEMON: It's a Friday, but you know it's still very busy right now. And if we don't see oil in the gulf, does that mean that it's actually gone? With BP's well securely capped for now, we're seeing less oil on the surface.
So that question, whether the oil is gone, is one many people are asking right now. So let me answer that question for you. On the surface, the answer is, yes, they believe. The government's on-scene coordinator tells CNN they are having trouble finding any oil.
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REAR ADMIRAL PAUL ZUKUNFT, FEDERAL ON-SCENE COORDINATOR: We had over 800 skimmers out yesterday. And across the entire region, they've only recovered one barrel of recoverable oil. So the oil really is in its final life cycle, if you will. It is starting to break down quite rapidly where it will pose each day less and less of a threat to the environment.
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LEMON: All right, so let's be honest. It sounds like really good news, right? Yes. But Admiral Thad Allen doesn't want to plan any parades any time soon.
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ADM. THAD ALLEN, NATIONAL INCIDENT COMMANDER: We've never said all the oil is gone. And this is a catastrophic event. There is oil in the marshes. We need to keep working on this. And I made a commitment when we spoke with the parish presidents that we would stay with this effort and BP would stay with the effort and meet its commitments. We need to be here until all the oil is gone.
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LEMON: So Admiral Allen says that there is oil in the marsh. Where else can we find oil there? Joining me now to help answer is Don van Nieuwenhuise, a petroleum expert from the University of Houston. Good to see you again, sir.
PROF. DON VAN NIEUWENHUISE, PETROLEUM GEOSCIENCE, UNIVERSITY OF HOUSTON: Good to see you.
LEMON: Professor, we can't see any oil on the surface, or not much. They're having trouble finding it. Does that mean it's gone?
NIEUWENHUISE: I think what it really means is that the tropical depression or tropical storm Bonnie actually did do a fairly good job at dispersing the oil. There's probably a lot of it still there. It's just broken up into smaller globs and smaller particles. And so we don't have the big pockets of it for people to collect anymore.
And the dispersant was put on early, and that dispersant affects the surface tension or keeping it at the top. So it's probably lingering within a foot of the surface. So if you were to look carefully, you might be able to find it.
But in general, I think by and large, most of this oil has been broken up and dispersed and scattered so broadly across the Gulf that it's hard to find large accumulations of it now.
LEMON: OK, so listen, all this big rigmarole about the dispersants being worse than the oil itself and we were so concerned about that, and the tropical storms and the hurricanes that we thought were going to come through and really make matters worse, they may have made the situation better?
NIEUWENHUISE: I think all along myself and a number of other people that have seen this happen before have said that on a large scale a tropical storm or hurricane should disperse the oil and actually break it up.
The biggest concern that we had, though, with hurricanes is that it might actually push accumulations and actually focus them in certain areas like bays and estuaries. Because this was a smaller storm I think we got the good side of the storm but we didn't get the bad side of the storm. So consequently I think we got the best results that we could.
LEMON: So at least someone was on the people's side down in the Gulf. Let's clear up this dispersants thing. People were concerned about the amount of dispersants there. How much concerned?
NIEUWENHUISE: The dispersants, of course, are toxins, and the National Research Council has always recommended that if you use that, that you use it early on within four or five hours of the release of the oil so that it actually adheres to it and does its job so you aren't pouring toxins in for no purpose at all.
So it has done its job. It's something you don't want to use unless you need to use it. But if you need to use it, it is an effective tool at breaking up oil accumulations and helping the process of biodegradation.
LEMON: I don't mean to rush you, but for time's sake here, I've got to ask, I think this is an important question. Admiral Thad Allen says the oil is trapped in marshes or maybe trapped in the marsh. Is that troubling, if you can quickly tell me?
NIEUWENHUISE: The marsh situation could have been much worse. It isn't good. And they do need to keep cleaning that up. And they also need to continue to monitor not just the marshes but also the deep oceans in case there are plumes that we haven't been able to find too many yet. But if there are plumes we need to make sure we monitor for that and also collect on the bottom of the ocean floor in case there are large accumulations of the heavy component. But there aren't very many heavy components in this crude.
LEMON: Don, thanks.
NIEUWENHUISE: Thank you.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I get paid to smoke pot and write about it.
HARLOW: You can be high doing your job.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And my boss knows it.
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LEMON: Did you hear that? He can get paid to smoke and get high, smoke pot, and his boss knows about it. That's right. Don't believe him, though. Or do you? Stick around. His story is next.
And remember the guy who said he bought these Ansel Adams negatives in a garage sale and they were worth about $200 million? An Adams relative is now calling the bluff on that. So what's the deal? We'll tell you next on "The List."
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LEMON: Time to check out the list of the most intriguing people in the news today.
All right, you don't know this guy, you don't know his name, but you sure know his famous grandfather. He runs the Ansel Adams Gallery in Yosemite, California. You know those long lost Ansel Adams negatives allegedly uncovered at a garage sale and reportedly worth hundreds of millions of dollars?
The word from the Adams family is, nonsense. They say it's hogwash. Show them, Roger. There he is. That's Matthew Adams, the grandson of Ansel Adams, says if those negatives are the real deal, which he doubts, they're nowhere near that valuable and only have some historical worth. An Adams family trustee goes further than that, saying the people claiming to have the antique negatives are pulling a big con job. Matthew Adams is skeptical, and for standing by his grandpa's work he is our most intriguing person in the news today.
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WEINER: It's Republicans wrapping their arms around Republicans rather than doing the right thing on behalf of the heroes. It is a shame, a shame.
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LEMON: Emotional blowup on the Hill today. Did you see that? He slammed Republicans who are voting down a bill that would provide aid to 9/11 responders. But that's just the beginning of it. The battle begins at the top of the hour.
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