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NY Jets Face Sex Harassment Claims; 23 Survive Venezuela Plane Crash; Hot Off the CNN Political Ticker

Aired September 13, 2010 - 16:00   ET

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RICK SANCHEZ, CNN HOST: KWHL. Wow. Bob and Mark. It must be a hot show. Thanks, guys. Mark Preston, Paul Steinhauser, do it the best of the best. Your political update in just 1 hour. Remember, for all latest political news, go to CNNpolitics.com. And on Twitter you can got at political ticker.

All right. As begin this next hour, I want to welcome the men and women who are watching us on forces network all over the world. We are the news of record at this time, 4:00 eastern, that is. Here's your national conversation.

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SANCHEZ (voice-over): Here's what is making the LIST today. Will Boehner and the GOP bend on tax cuts giving the president and the middle class a win?

Now, the first pictures of what really happened when a neighborhood near San Francisco exploded. Were warnings not heated?

Which professional athlete is trivializing gang rape? I'm calling him out? Which NFL team is being investigated for mistreating a female reporter? J-E-T-S, Jets, Jets, Jets?

Why is the tap water in some homes actually igniting? Tap water? What's up with that?

And how does a car fall from the sky onto a house? The lists you need to know about. Who is today's most intriguing? Who's landed on the list you don't want to be on? Who's making news on Twitter? It's why I keep a list. I'm hearing tomorrow's cutting edge news right now.

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SANCHEZ: Hey. Hello, again, everybody. Here we go. It is interview that we're about to conduct for you. A lot of folks have been talking about. Just as the NFL season begins, New York Jets about to open their season, there's controversy once again. The NFL is investigating whether the New York Jets' coach, a member of his staff, and some of his players, behaved inappropriately toward a reporter from Mexico's TV Azteca.

The reporter is Ines Sainz. She was at the Jets' practice camp this weekend to do an interview with one of the few Latino quarterbacks in football. His name, of course, is Mark Sanchez. There he is. According to reports in the "New York Post" and "USA Today," among others, members of the Jet's coaching staff and team deliberately overthrew passes so that they could hit the area where she was conducting the interview.

Also, according to the post, the team later did cat cals and hooting and hollering as they described at Sainz calls as she walked into the locker room. A lot has been made about what Sainz said on her Twitter page. That's her Twitter page. That's her talking about it, about what happened on Saturday. Those are the pictures that she has posted herself on her Twitter page, by the way.

She has posted herself on her twitter page. By the way, she's joining me right now on the phone to take us through this. Ines, como estas. How are you?

VOICE OF INES SAINZ, TV AZTECA CORRESPONDENT: Hi. I'm fine. Thank you. Nice to salute you.

SANCHEZ: Good. Good. It's nice that you would join us to give us your side of the story because we've been hearing a lot of this reports which seem to indicate, so I'll ask you straight out. Did you ever notice that there were footballs being thrown in the direction where you were during the practice?

SAINZ: Well, actually, yes, I do. I was there, and suddenly, they started to practice and throw the ball exactly in my sight, but I (INAUDIBLE) take it seriously. I think it was only joking, and I really don't even pay attention by that because they never hit me with the ball or something. I want something done at the moment, so I let it happen and then wait for the locker room to catch Mark Sanchez there and make the interview with him.

SANCHEZ: Did you -- OK. Let's take the next part, then. There've been a lot of questions about that incident which you just confirmed happened. There have been reports in the New York daily news and in the "New York Post" as well that it wasn't just the players but that some of the coaches were also involved in that. But let's take it to the next step.

Now, you go into the locker room where the players were, one of many members of the media who are working that story with the New York Jets wanted to do an interview with Mark Sanchez, and it's reported that there were cat calls and hoots. Did you hear that? Did you hear that reaction? And how did you deal with it there?

SAINZ: Well, actually, when I get into the locker room in the moment that I get in, I feel all the eyes on me so I decided to find where is Mark Sanchez's locker and walk to -- in front of them. So, I -- to be honest with you, I tried not to hear anything, tried to not to pay attention. My camera man tell me, don't look at the right, left, don't look at the left. So, I only saw the Mark Sanchez locker, but I really feel the noise and all the environment was talking about me. So one colleague, one female colleague come with me and tell me, I'm so sorry. It's not going to happen. It's not okay. So, I try to counter and say, don't worry. I'm only focused on my work, and I only wait here for Mark, and I don't even pay attention in what happened. So, I Twitter that I feel an uncomfortable (ph) environment, but I was waiting for Mark Sanchez, and I preferred to stay only in front of the locker and not to se any other parts.

SANCHEZ: That's interesting, Ines. Because what you have just said is that another female reporter there, a colleague of yours, felt embarrassed for what was going on. Embarrassed for you. So then, let me ask you the question, did you ever feel embarrassed?

SAINZ: Well, actually, yes. I feel a little uncomfortable because, evidently, it's not easy to be in the locker room, and hear and I noticed hat everybody is speaking about you and probably making some jokes, but I never feel in danger also. I'm a professional. I have I.D. to make the interview with the best players. So, I know that in some moment you must to be calm and relax and only wait for your work.

So, what I tried to do is not to pay attention and not let that disturb me. But I really know that she hears something that I didn't hear and the rest of the media that inside hearsay that I really didn't hear. So, I really appreciate the concern about it.

SANCHEZ: But let me ask you another question and this has to do with what's gone on since. You know this has become a bit of a controversy. People -- women's groups around the country have filed complaints. The NFL now says it's investigating, and there's a report out that you have received a call from one of the Jets' officials.

In fact, there's a report out here that you actually got a call from the owner. Is that true? And, if so, what did he tell you?

SAINZ: Yes, absolutely. In the morning, Sunday morning, I received a call and it was on the part of the Jets owner. So, they communicated with him, and Mr. Johnson was very nice. He expressed his concern about what happened in the locker room, and he told me that he's going to investigate what exactly happen. I tried to calm him and say don't worry. I think (INAUDIBLE) probably you believe it, but he insists that he is going to investigate exactly what happened.

And the NFL contact me, and I make my declaration about all of the acts, and they are making the investigation. I really know that what really happened right there in the locker room, the people who hear about it was the rest of the media.

SANCHEZ: Yes. When you say you made your declaration, you gave them a statement, essentially, which they're going to use to file in their report. Let me just stop for a moment. I want to bring in Brooke Baldwin. She's one of my colleagues here at CNN. And she, too, has covered locker rooms from time to time. So, I wanted to bring her in for her perspective.

BROOKE BALDWIN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, I mean, look, I think Ines maybe would agree walking to the testosterone field environment, right? You're in a locker room and your female, and Ines, this case, she's very attractive. And so, I imagine that some behavior happens in a locker room, but some behavior isn't acceptable.

It sounds like this woman, Ines, jumped to your defense, but you said you were embarrassed. My only concern and perhaps other female sports reporter's concern would be you say that that kind of behavior, if harassment let's say is proven, if you say it's okay, that sets a precedent that that kind of behavior is acceptable.

SANCHEZ: Do you worry about that?

BALDWIN: Right.

SAINZ: No, I didn't say that it's acceptable. No, I don't believe that it's acceptable. And I'm grateful to the concern of the accusation of the sports journalist because they take these things very seriously.

BALDWIN: Right.

SAINZ: And I think it doesn't - it's not good that this kind of thing happens, and it's not going to happen anymore. So, I agree with the idea that it's good that everybody knows that a woman or a man share the same treatment in the locker room.

SANCHEZ: Have you ever -- have you ever been treated that way? Have you ever -- I'm sure you've covered a lot of stories in a lot of different places, and you've covered sports stories. Have you ever been in a situation where you have faced that type of reaction?

SAINZ: Well, actually, yes, I do. and I've covered soccer, and so , in soccer, the world cups or everything, just come probably that when I arrived to one training session or something, the players try to make jokes or try to do something to notice but never -- never anything so -- how do you say? I don't know the word in English. It's like (SPEAKING IN SPANISH)

SANCHEZ: (SPEAKING IN SPANISH).

SAINZ: Yes, that's correct.

BALDWIN: But Ines, do you feel like, just curious, because you're the sports reporter. I've only been in a locker room, you know, a few times. Do you feel like as a female reporter in a predominantly male industry that you are definitely treated differently? And do you, then, following up on that, have to be perhaps be more accepting of certain behavior?

SAINZ: No, the behavior is not accepted because, obviously, you feel that the environment is not proper for a woman. It's not good. It's supposed that when you go and do your job, it must be a nice place to do it. So, no I'm not accepting the fact, but I really believe that we can do something better with that kind of thing.

SANCHEZ: It's interesting. And Woody Johnson had called you. You said he apologized on behalf of the team. You accept his apology, correct?

SAINZ: Yes, I accepted the apologies. And I said thanks to him for the concern and all of the rest of the team because he promised that he is going to make everybody in his team respect the woman, and I think that -- the important point is that that a woman deserves respect in any profession.

SANCHEZ: I got it.

SAINZ: So, I think it's going to happen.

SANCHEZ: Ines Sainz, my thanks to you and Brooke Baldwin.

SAINZ: No, thank you.

SANCHEZ: Thank you for taking time to call in and share this perspective with us on a story that a lot of people have been following all over the country. And we're so glad that we have you on the record now here at CNN. Thanks, Brooke. Appreciate it.

BALDWIN: Thank you.

SANCHEZ: Interesting story.

BALDWIN: It is.

SANCHEZ: We'll talk about it a little more.

BALDWIN: OK.

SANCHEZ: Panic in a California grocery store, and it wasn't even an earthquake. There's a new surveillance video that's coming. Look at this. Watch as you some of the people diving under desks. People fall down. They leave the store and then they run back in. They just don't known what to do. They think a 747 has just crashed into their community, and you're going to watch as this unfolds.

Also, the seesaw battle to get an American hiker detained in Iran back home. It looks like it's all coming down to a $500,000 payment now. And some people are shaking their heads, wondering if that's right. That's next. We'll be right back.

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SANCHEZ: All right. Here we go. We do list on the show, and this is the one we bring you about this everyday. It's called our round up list, and we begin with number one.

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SANCHEZ (voice-over): A plane crash in Venezuela and nearly half the people on board have survived. The twin engine turbo prop crashed in Southeastern Venezuela. It had just taken off from the airport in Guyana. An eyewitness says that the plane tumbled on to power lines and then exploded. There were at least 47 people on board. Emergency team rushed 23 of them to the hospitals. No idea yet what has caused this crash, but there are, as you might imagine, given it's Venezuela, a lot of questions given the fact that there were government officials on board.

Number two, as soon as Sarah Shourd's family pays the Iranian's government $500,000 in what they call bail, she'll go free, maybe today. Shourd and two companions have spent more than a year in Iranian prison charge with spying. They insist they mistakenly strayed over the border while hiking in Iran. Shourd's lawyer visited with all three Americans and says that they're doing well.

Here now number three. Look for this story at the future episode of law and order. An alleged underwear bomber accused of trying to blow up a jumbo jet. Yes. Remember this story? Headed for Detroit, the plane was on Christmas Day. He fired his lawyer today. Umar Farouk Abdul Mutallab says he'll represent himself. He's reportedly cooperating with the government and hoping to cut a deal.

The judge asked him several times, do you want a lawyer? Abdul Mutallab said, no. The judge put a lawyer on standby for him just in case. Just the same. And we'll stay on top of this for you.

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SANCHEZ (on-camera): Number four. I have some incredible video to show you from the blast zone in California. It's a gas explosion that levels a neighborhood. And we'll take you through this in just a little bit. That's next. stay with us. We'll be right back.

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SANCHEZ: Welcome back. Pacific Gas and Electric has announced the creation of a $100 million rebuild San Bruno fund. New information. That's the San Francisco suburb, as you may know, where a neighborhood erupted in a ball of fire a when a PG&E gas line exploded Thursday night. Now, here's what we've been getting over the last couple of days. A brand new videos. This one we received.

This is the last that we've received. I want to show you some surveillance video. This is gas station across the street from the explosion. Let me take you through this. You can see the ball of fire erupts. This is from the 60-year-old natural gas pipeline. A person is pumping gas. He runs from his car and fear of his life. The flames, according to witnesses, come real close to the gas station. The driver of the car just drives away.

I imagine freaked out as you can be. You can also see other cars trying to get away from the big ball of fire, which you can feel the heat from it emanating. A lot of folks thought it was a 747 that crashed into the community. Panic also erupts. Let me take you inside a grocery store now. Watch this.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SANCHEZ (voice-over): A pipeline explodes across the street from this grocery store, right? Customers at this Lunarty's Market (ph), they see what's going on. They start freaking out. They're running for the exits, but then some of them see it and then run back in the store. Others are around the area where the cash registers are, and they don't know what to do. I mean, they're like running in circles some of them.

You can see -- you see that one guy there on the right with the checkered shirt? He dives to the floor and then finally gets up again, not knowing what he's going to -- I mean, you see the raw reaction of what it's like to be in this situation when this sonic boom goes off. People were describing what they, again, believed was a 747 that had just crashed into their community. They didn't know whether to go in or go out.

SANCHEZ (on-camera): So, fear grips this entire community just at the moment the gas pipeline explodes. Most of these people have been evacuated from their homes. Some ran. Some ran. Some crawled. Here's this report I want you to see. This is CNN's Ted Rowlands. He has the homecoming now of one San Bruno family that captured the fire themselves on videotape.

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WALTER MCCAFFREY, RESIDENT: What the (EXPLETIVE DELETED) was that?

TED ROWLANDS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): This incredible home video was captured moments after the explosion from a house balcony just behind the blown gas pipe.

MCCAFFREY: Is that a plane crash?

ROWLANDS: The voice you hear belongs to Walter McCaffrey (ph). He had one hand on his video camera and the other on his phone telling his wife not to come home with their three children. This is the view from that deck now. Walter and his wife, Carrie (ph), were allowed back Sunday afternoon to their house for the first time since the explosion.

MCCAFFREY: Just looking at all of this, I mean, I saw all of this from the news but being here and the first time coming up here and looking at all of this, it was just -- there's no words. I can't really explain.

ROWLANDS: Teams are still sifting through ash, searching for remains of people still listed as missing. As investigators try to learn what cause the explosion, questions have surfaced about the section of pipe that blew. A PG&E document outlining costs to replace the pipe says quote "the likelihood of a failure makes the risk of a failure at this location unacceptably high."

That doesn't mean PG&E thought there was a chance the pipe could explode. But Mark Toney, executive director of a consumer watchdog group, Utility Reform Network says, it's important if reports that residents smelled gas before the explosion are true.

MARK TONEY, EXECUTIVE DIR., UTILITY REFORM NETWORK: Nobody, PG&E included, could have imagined something as horrible and terrible as the San Bruno blast and fire as happening. But the fact remains that when PG&E got the reports of gas leaks from several customers over several days, they should have realized that this was an area that was old that was at high risk, that they identified as high risk.

ROWLANDS: Federal officials leading the investigation are looking into the reports about the smell of gas in the days before the explosion and how PG&E responded.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We would ask anybody who says that they smelled gas and called it in to let us know.

ROWLANDS: The McCaffrey's they plan to move back when they're sure it's safe to do so. While their home suffered only minor, their neighborhood will never be the same.

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SANCHEZ: And Ted is joining us now. He's live from San Bruno with the latest from that new relief fund. You know, after emergencies like this, I remember, you know, I've gone through some of these, reported on them, Andrew in South Florida. A lot of folks decided, you know what, we're just going to up and leave. We don't even want to have the haunting memory of this. Are folks wanting to move back into this neighborhood? Or are they just going to pick up and go elsewhere?

ROWLANDS (on-camera): You know, it's funny. I talked to one woman who said she is going to leave after living here, you know, some 30 years or so. But I think most people are in that stage where they're not quite sure what they're going to do, especially the people that completely lost their homes. Think about it, they don't know what's ahead next. Let me quickly, Rick, just give you some perspective here. You see the fence where there's a pit? That's where the explosion took place. Look how far away we are from that video that was shot.

It felt like it was just top on top of us. That balcony there is where that home video was shot. but then that gas station video and the Lunarty's (ph) supermarket, that was a quarter mile away, all the way up and over this hill and those flames looked like they were right on top both the gas station and the grocery store. That's how high this fireball was and continued to burn. It's amazing when you come out here and you see it.

SANCHEZ: It's amazing when you look at the video of the people in the grocery store. I mean, they look like ants running around. You know, you can't hear the sound or feel the heat or hear the crackling, but I can almost imagine it watching them. Yes, this one, too. This one at the gas station, but the one in the grocery store is the one that really gets me, because people are running towards the door, tripping, and then turning around and running back into the store. It's almost like they don't know what to do. ROWLANDS: Absolutely. Yes. There are a couple women that run out. They see the fire and like, I'm not going out there, and they come popping right back into the store.

SANCHEZ: And it's like they react, Ted --

ROWLANDS: (INAUDIBLE) for long time there.

SANCHEZ: Ted, they reacted instantly, and they described it to you and to others as if they heard something explode, like they thought it was a plane crash, a 747 that had crashed into their community. As I watched these pictures, I can understand that description.

ROWLANDS: Yes. At first, they heard a hiss, that's what they thought was the engine of the plane and then the impact. They felt too the concussion. You can see the doors if you look really closely on that supermarket video at beginning. The doors actually get blown in by the concussion of the explosion. And people didn't know what to do. I mean, what do you do? Better to stay in or go out. And you just watching it is really amazing.

SANCHEZ: Stay on top of it for us. I mean, I'm curious. Most of the country is curious as to what really caused this and what does it spell for the rest of us if we live in areas that may have some kind of natural gas pipeline in the vicinity as well just to make sure that we're all safe. So, I'll be looking forward to hearing this report as the National Transportation And Safety Board continues that, Ted. Thanks for being on top of this for us.

Meanwhile, outrageous comments from a heavy weight boxer. And he doesn't have time to apologize after saying something like this? It's what we call the list you don't want to be on. You know about it. It's coming up.

Also, remember the angry citizens of Bell, California, that got quite vocal about their town leaders sky high salaries? Well, they're going to be getting some money back. The list goes on.

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SANCHEZ: OK. Welcome back. You know, we stay in touch with the Red Cross. In fact, we communicate with them through tweets all the time, no matter what goes on in the country. They've been working this situation out in San Bruno nonstop. We followed them as their emergency management - as a part of our emergency management list, I should say.

Let's go to the Twitter board, if we possibly can. They tweeted this just a little while ago. And I want to show it to you. Here's what they are saying. "American Red Cross workers handing out snacks and drinks, cleaning supplies, providing mental health consultations to residents in the San Bruno area today."

There's one more, by the way. Here we go. "We sheltered about 200 people through last Saturday." There you go. "All shelters near San Bruno now officially closed." It's always nice to know that the Red Cross is there to take care of people with immediate needs like this one that occurred in San Bruno. We're glad that we can share part of that message with you on a daily basis.

Somebody throw as shoe at a world leader, right? Bang. Nope. We're not talking about George W. Bush. It's happened again. A different leader. And look, he's screaming because he wants his story told. We'll do that in "Fotos" when we come back.

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SANCHEZ: Remember the guy who shucked a pair of shoes at President George W. Bush? Well, you're not going to believe this, but it's happened again. Let's do "Fotos."

All right. This time, the hurler is protesting Greek austerity measures and he hurls his shoe at the prime minister Saturday. He missed his target, he didn't go down without a fight. This turned into quite a scene. The guy is actually a doctor, an educated man. His stunt was a prescription for trouble. Police arrested him -- you hear him? They also arrested his daughter and they arrested another man.

Let's take you to Fairburn, Georgia now. Every now and then, you see a car crash into a house. It happens, right? Well, here we've got a car crashing through a roof of a house. That's right. A roof?

How does that even happen, you'll ask? Here is how. A speeding car careened into a driveway going so fast, it was thrown 35 feet into the air and then came crashing through the back of a bedroom ceiling.

Here's the best news of all. For the family that lives there, they were in bed just moments before the crash but had gotten out. As a result, they are fine. Good for them.

Boston now. If you catch an alligator in Florida, no big deal, right? I grew up around these things. But in Boston? In Boston? you heard right. That's a story. It's a boater. He saw the reptile sunning itself in Charles River. Police called in a wildlife specialist, who captured it. Good news for the gator. Experts say in winter, it would have frozen to death. It would have died. So it's a good thing it was caught and sent to a farm or a zoo or who knows? Maybe my backyard down in South Florida.

That's "Fotos." You can see them for yourself on CNN.com/ricksanchez.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You all need to go to jail so we don't have to pay you back one penny!

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SANCHEZ: Here is what Americans are mad and should be mad about. Remember the outrage in Bell, California? Heck, all over the country when we learned how much the city managers were getting paid? The protesters got the managed booted, but what about all of that cash?

Brooke Baldwin's working that story for us. See, she updates stories, she checks on what is "Trending," she is just all over all of it.

BALDWIN: Oh, thanks.

SANCHEZ: She's just like that.

BALDWIN: I try.

SANCHEZ: Thanks for being here.

BALDWIN: Thanks for having me.

SANCHEZ: Quick break. We'll be right back. Cool with you?

BALDWIN: Cool with me.

SANCHEZ: Dealio! We'll be right back.

BALDWIN: To the break!

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SANCHEZ: We are getting a lot of tweets and a lot of people who are reacting through e-mail and all other sorts.

BALDWIN: I love it.

SANCHEZ: The Ines Sainz interview that we did. This is the reporter who went to the Jets' practice facility and is treated, according to people who there -- not necessarily her, in a disrespectful way, although she told us that she was uncomfortable.

BALDWIN: She said that she was embarrassed.

SANCHEZ: She was made to feel uncomfortable -

BALDWIN: Hooting and hollering in the locker room.

SANCHEZ: All right. So, NFL players watch "RICK'S LIST." Among those, Dante Stalworth. Great wide receiver. Great pair of hands. He's watching, and he just sent this tweet to our show. He writes, "Her personal take on it was interesting. She seems she has no ill will and wants the workplace to be fair."

BALDWIN: Wonder what he means by interesting. Dante, tweet us again. What do you mean by interesting.

SANCHEZ: Yes. I wonder what he means by interesting.

BALDWIN: I'd love to know. It was a great interview.

SANCHEZ: She said that she was made to feel uncomfortable. She agreed with the women who were even embarrassed for her. BALDWIN: It was another woman who jumped to her defense.

SANCHEZ: And it seems the part that bothered her was the part in the locker room -

BALDWIN: Right.

SANCHEZ: -- not where they were throwing the balls - allegedly.

BALDWIN: Right. But if she's not so incredibly offended, then should other people be offended to her --

SANCHEZ: Great question. That's a great question.

All right. Let's go round and round on that. I'm glad we were able to share that tweet, despite what Jon Stewart says. Tell me again what you're --

BALDWIN: We do get excited with tweets. All right.

OK, so "Trending" this hour. Look, a lesson to all of us here. Many of us are on Facebook. People post everything, from pictures of their kids and what is for dinner and where you are going for vacation, right? Well, police in Nashua, New Hampshire have cracked this massive, massive home burglary ring, and many of the victims, they say, people who posted on Facebook, hey, I'm going to be out of town. Listen to the police.

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CAPT. RON DICKERSON, NASHUA, NEW HAMPSHIRE POLICE DEPT.: Be careful what you post on these social networking sites. We know for a fact that some of these players, some of these criminals, were looking at these sites and identified their targets through these social networking sites.

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BALDWIN: Nashua police. Lesson learned. I was kind of -- I grew up, my family, you get your neighbors to get your mail, right? Because you don't want the mail piling up because you don't want people to know you're out of town. Also, don't post on Facebook that you're not going to be home.

SANCHEZ: A trusted neighbor, by the way. Not just any neighbor.

BALDWIN: A trusted neighbor -

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BALDWIN: -- according to Rick Sanchez.

Story number two, we have been following this Bell, California story. You've been all over it.

SANCHEZ: You were on it first. BALDWIN: We were. So, we know about this audit, right, that was performed over the city's finances. And they found that homeowners were excessively, illegally taxed, like, $3 million. Well, today, acting governor (sic) of Bell, Malvonado signed two pieces of legislation that will return those illegal and excessive taxes back to the people of Bell.

Here's what he says. Quote, "Make no mistake, Governor Schwarzenegger and I consider returning or saving taxpayer dollars an urgent matter that must be expedited immediately. I will be watching these funds and fully expect the city of Bell and Los Angeles County to make getting taxpayers their refund a high priority."

Additionally, this bill will require the city to repay all of the funds by the last day of the year, December 31, to begin processing those tax refunds by the people who live there. Also, they will recover unemployment benefits that have been collected by former elected officials in relation to their previous public service positions. Bottom line, he said, tough economic times, got to watch and count every single penny.

SANCHEZ: Well, yes, especially if it's a fiasco. Especially if it's excessive, especially if you're in a town where people are averaging $20,000, $30,000 a year and you're paying yourself $4,000 a year. It just doesn't seem right, does it

BALDWIN: But today's the day. They are righting the wrong.

SANCHEZ: That's a good thing. Thanks. Appreciate it.

You're going to join me at 8:00 tonight, right?

BALDWIN: I will, as always.

SANCHEZ: Special edition of RICK'S LIST at 8 p.m. with a story going on with the New York Jets. Because we got the interviews.

We all know, by the way, that the sport of boxing includes some bad boys. But one fighter just crossed the line. Wait until you hear his outrageous comments, and find out why he's not apologizing? Seems like a no-brainer. It would be a no-brainer to most of us, especially to Brooke. "The List U Don't Want 2 Be On." That's coming up next.

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SANCHEZ: Welcome back. I'm Rick Sanchez.

Last week on this newscast, we called out a broadcaster for using Hurricane Katrina to make this point about a football game.

Well, guess what? It's happened again. This one may be even worse. Time now for "The List U Don't Want 2 Be On."

This guy's a boxer. His name is David Haye. He's British. He's got a heavyweight title fight in November.

Haye is in full promotion mode. He's been trash-talking left and right, but he went way too far, it seems, this time.

Haye promised that his opponent would be violated in the ring. But look at the words he uses. The fight he says will be, "as one- sided as a gang rape."

Now, I don't have to tell you just how offensive that is because it obviously trivializes a horrible act of violence more often than perpetrated not against women -- our mothers, our daughters, our wives. And accordingly, women's groups and charities are blasting him.

So, now I know it's normal for boxers to toss insults before a big fight. It sells tickets, it makes promoters happy. But this goes way beyond floating butterflies and stinging bees, a la Muhammad Ali.

And what makes it worse is he is now refusing to apologize for this type of terminology. Take a look at this tweet. He writes, "If I apologize for every stupid and ignorant thing I said, I wouldn't have time for anything else during the day."

Well, what does that exactly tell us about this guy? Don't answer that. Let's just put it this way: let's just take him and put him where most people would say he belongs, at the very least, on "The List U Don't Want 2 Be On."

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SANCHEZ: Once again we'd like to welcome some of the folks who have come by Atlanta to pay us a visit here on RICK'S LIST.

Give us a wave, folks. Nice to see you. Now you're waving at your relatives and you're saying to them, "Look, I'm on TV."

Thanks for being here.

Here's what we're going to do now. I want to check in on the list of the "Most Intriguing People" making news on this day.

Hit it, Rog.

Child of the '50s, this lady's father was president of the United States, whose name is synonymous with everything old school conservative. Well, she's definitely not and has never apologized for leaning left despite her father's legacy.

Now she's got nothing good to say about the man she supported for the presidency. Read this. It's her view today of President Barack Obama.

"The no-drama, too-cool-for-school persona worked really well during the campaign, especially when he came up against a hothead like McCain." "Now," she says "being cool doesn't cut it."

Show her, Rog.

Who are we talking about? It's former first daughter born Patricia Ann Reagan. She's always used her mother's maiden name, Davis, though. Patti Davis wrote a very sharp criticism of the Obama administration in this issue of "Newsweek."

She says she's devastated by the president's performance and does not see him empathizing with the troubles of average Americans. Read it and tell me if you agree if you think she is, in fact, today's most intriguing.

Wolf Blitzer is keeping his eye on politics from "THE SITUATION ROOM," and he joins us now to bring us up to date.

What's up, Wolf? What's across (ph)?

WOLF BLITZER, CNN ANCHOR: Well, there's a lot of stuff going on.

One thing I think you're going to really be interested in, in "THE SITUATION ROOM," Michael Moore, the documentary filmmaker. He's going to be joining us. He has some very, very strong views on the Muslim cultural center and mosque that is supposed to be built near Ground Zero.

He says he doesn't want it built near Ground Zero, he wants it built on Ground Zero and he's here to explain exactly what he's talking about. We've got a wide-ranging interview with Michael Moore. I think you're going to be interested in that, Rick.

We also have Darrell Issa coming up in "THE SITUATION ROOM," the Republican congressman from California. He's scheduled to be the chairman of the very important Oversight Committee if the Republicans become the majority in the House of Representatives.

And a lot of Democrats in the Obama administration are already nervous that subpoenas are on the way and their lives are going to be made a little bit more miserable if, in fact, the Republicans have that subpoena power in the House of Representatives, maybe even in the Senate. So we'll talk to Darrell Issa about that. So there's a lot going on.

SANCHEZ: Now, you know what I really want to talk to you about, right?

BLITZER: The Buffalo Bills.

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BLITZER: I know. I know the way your mind works. And we lost a heartbreaker to Miami. Is that what you're going to tell me?

SANCHEZ: Yes. Yes. No, I wanted you to say it.

See, because if I say it, it seems kind of classless, because that's like rubbing salt in the wound, Wolf. I didn't want to do that.

BLITZER: I know how you're thinking. I love the Bills. But you know what? My Washington Redskins, they beat the Cowboys yesterday. So I'm pretty happy about that.

SANCHEZ: You got one out of two. The Redskins looked good. You know, McNabb looks like he lost 10 years or something.

BLITZER: Donovan McNabb.

SANCHEZ: I mean --

BLITZER: He did not have a great game, but he played well enough to beat the Cowboys. And the way the Redskins have been playing the last few years, that's an excellent start.

SANCHEZ: Well, I'll have you know that I was sitting in my house with a couple of friends. Some of the guys here from CNN in Atlanta came over and we were thinking about you and talking about you. But it's not because we wanted the Bills to win.

We wanted the fish to win. So we got you this time. But I know you'll get us again.

BLITZER: My heart goes out to all my fellow Buffalonians.

SANCHEZ: It was a great game. It really was. Close game at that.

Thanks, Wolf. Look forward to seeing you in "THE SITUATION ROOM."

BLITZER: Thank you.

SANCHEZ: Up next, the "Political Ticker" with John King, who's going to come up in just a little bit as THE LIST scrolls on.

As a matter of fact, hey, there's Johnny Be Good himself. He's getting ready. Oh, he's taking off the coat, working that IFB. He's got the microphone going. He doesn't even know he's on TV.

We'll be right back.

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SANCHEZ: Here we go. We're dedicated to this here at CNN. We want to let you know what's going on at all times because CNN equals politics.

Who have we got from the best political team on television? Oh, look at this. We've got the big guy coming up here. John King standing by to let us know what's crossing right now.

John, what you got?

JOHN KING, HOST, "JOHN KING USA": You're stuck with me on this Monday afternoon, my friend.

Interesting day. You know, President Obama says he likes to get out of Washington. Well, today he got out of Washington, just outside of the beltway.

He went to Fairfax, Virginia, was out in a back yard talking to a family there. That's a competitive congressional district, and the president wanted to promote his economic plans.

One interesting footnote there. The president was in the back yard of a member of Congress, the Democrat Gerry Connolly, who actually wants to extend the Bush tax cuts, at least temporarily.

The president of course only wants to extend some of them, so a bit of a disagreement between the president and his congressman host. But both of them essentially saying we're better than the Republicans, Rick. The president out doing that.

Tune in tonight to "JOHN KING USA," because we'll have the architect of the president's campaign back in 2008, David Plouffe. Remember, he wrote a big book about that. Well, he's helping the White House and Democrats now.

And one of the big problems is the Obama coalition has crumbled a bit. African-Americans aren't turning out for the midterm elections, younger voters don't seem tuned in. So we're going to ask David Plouffe if he can somehow, with 50 days left, Rick, put together that coalition in time to keep the Democrats from losing too many seats.

And lastly, we want to show you this item on the "Political Ticker." You have this one down where you are in the Atlanta area.

Georgia businessman -- come on in, my friend, Dave Jenkins, here and look at this. Georgia obituaries is up, and who's focused in it? Barack Obama.

Don Unsworth (ph) asking people, "Don't send flowers. Make a donation to whoever is running against Barack Obama in 2012." A quote from this obituary, "In lieu of flowers, the family respectfully asks that donations be sent to the American Cancer Society or to the campaign of anybody who is running against President Barack Obama in 2012."

That obituary ran in the newspaper today. A little interesting farewell, you might say there, Rick.

SANCHEZ: And John King comes on tonight at 7:00 p.m. Eastern. That's "JOHN KING USA," followed by "The Brooke Baldwin Show" at 8:00 p.m.

BALDWIN: Yes. Not quite. I'm no John King. I'm no John King, Rick Sanchez.

SANCHEZ: Thanks, John.

Hey, so you're joining us once again.

BALDWIN: Yes.

SANCHEZ: I did a book signing in Westbury, New York. BALDWIN: How did it go?

SANCHEZ: It was supposed to go for, like a half an hour. An hour and 15 minutes into it, we were still discussing and talking.

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SANCHEZ: Well, they were smart people asking smart questions, so, you know --

BALDWIN: Well, it's nice to meet the people who tweet you, right?

SANCHEZ: It is very nice.

BALDWIN: To actually see them.

SANCHEZ: Especially the young kids.

BALDWIN: The whippersnappers?

SANCHEZ: The whippersnappers -- yes, they were, like, some kids in high school. "So, Mr. Sanchez, this social media thing, let me explain" --

BALDWIN: Really?

SANCHEZ: They knew more than I did. OK?

BALDWIN: They're like, come, let me teach you.

SANCHEZ: All right. The story about the New York Jets and the reporter from Azteca Television --

BALDWIN: Ines Sainz.

SANCHEZ: -- Ines Sainz, tons of tweets on it, right?

BALDWIN: Tons.

SANCHEZ: And we're giving away one of my books every show, so we're going to give one away now. And we're going to choose somebody. But first, we're going to look at some of the reaction we've gotten.

Can you take us through it?

BALDWIN: Yes. So, we have, like, two and two, and then the fifth tweet is the winner. So here's a couple of tweets. Here's one I got from Charlie.

"What happened to dressing professionally? She didn't deserve the dis, but at the same time, asked for it too."

SANCHEZ: Interesting. So he's accusing her of dressing in such a way so that it was too provocative.

BALDWIN: Yes, he's blaming her dress.

This one from Brian Coleman (ph). He tweets us a bunch. "If she is not upset, why is this such a huge issue?" Which I think is a major point that a lot of people are bringing up.

SANCHEZ: Yes. That's a good point.

BALDWIN: You want to --

SANCHEZ: No, you keep going. You read better than I do.

BALDWIN: All right. Lenardeast says, "The issue with the New York Jets is a non-issue. These guys are jocks! Give me a break. You should prohibit all females."

Lenard!

Next tweet is "Women don't belong in men's locker rooms anymore man than a man in a woman's locker room. Get real!"

SANCHEZ: Well, that's interesting.

BALDWIN: Well --

SANCHEZ: But then you would be saying that women --

BALDWIN: -- you can't do that.

SANCHEZ: But then you'd be saying that women are not allowed to cover men's sports.

BALDWIN: No.

SANCHEZ: Which would not be fair.

BALDWIN: That's not realistic.

SANCHEZ: By the way, when they go into the locker room, the men are, for the most part, still -- they have a towel around them or something, right?

BALDWIN: I mean, they have a towel, but hello? That could sometimes be it.

SANCHEZ: Yes.

BALDWIN: You just have to be professional.

SANCHEZ: OK. I've drawn, as Marshall McLuhan would say, a visual script. And we'll leave it at that.

BALDWIN: We'll leave it at that.

SANCHEZ: Do we have a winner?

BALDWIN: We have a winner. Let's read the winner. This is Jules McGuire, who says, "Why do we need to report from locker rooms at all? It's not appropriate for a female or a male reporter." That's interesting.

SANCHEZ: So she says no reporters at all.

BALDWIN: She's saying why do we need it? I mean, I've seen other tweets. They say, why can't we just go outside of the locker room, get everyone dressed?

SANCHEZ: And she's getting a book --

BALDWIN: She is the winner.

SANCHEZ: -- according to our steering committee. And what is the name again? I can't see it.

BALDWIN: Jules McGuire.

SANCHEZ: Jules McGuire gets the book.

BALDWIN: I'm guessing she lives in D.C. MissJulesDC.

SANCHEZ: You will get your own copy of "Conventional Idiocy" signed by Rick Sanchez --

BALDWIN: The one and only.

SANCHEZ: -- and Brooke Baldwin.

BALDWIN: Do you think they want my signature?

SANCHEZ: Of course they do. People like you more than they do me.

BALDWIN: No.

SANCHEZ: You read all their tweets all the time.

Thanks so much for being with us.

Now the man everybody loves. Wolf Blitzer coming up now -- I feel bad for his Bills, though. No I don't -- in "THE SITUATION ROOM." Here you go.