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Drill Reaches Chilean Miners; Sarah Palin For President?
Aired September 17, 2010 - 20:00 ET
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RICK SANCHEZ, CNN ANCHOR: All right, late word tonight, as I mentioned just a little while ago in my conversation with John.
This woman who comes out and says that somebody, a black person, threw acid in her face, it turns out she did it to herself. Police have nailed her. They are calling her a liar. And now for the first time we hear from her side of the family. You will see that right here on RICK'S LIST, and this.
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SANCHEZ (voice-over): It's prime time. And here is what's making RICK'S LIST.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Tell me what you want. Tell me what you want.
SANCHEZ: A man goes overboard on a school bus. What would do you if they threw a condom at your daughter and then laughed like this? But, wait, there's an update.
(on camera): Should a woman have a right to have an abortion if she's been raped?
CARL PALADINO (R), NEW YORK GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATE: No.
SANCHEZ (voice-over): Candidate Paladino says this about women, but what does this say about him?
ANDERSON COOPER, HOST, "ANDERSON COOPER 360": You forwarded a number of X-rated e-mails, one even showing bestiality, a woman and a horse.
SANCHEZ: Women's groups appalled. Wait. There's more. He sent this e-mail describing Obama's inauguration.
PALADINO: I apologize to those that were offended.
SANCHEZ: Some people are offended? How about him?
In Chile, the drill breaks through, but how will they get these men out? The plans will make you cringe.
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SANCHEZ: All right. Hello again, everybody. I'm Rick Sanchez.
And we're going to get right to what's making the list in prime time. A couple of big stories that we're following for you.
Obviously, you have heard about Sarah Palin and you've heard all the stories about whether or not she may be running for the presidency of the United States. Well, this is where we start hearing it, because she's in Iowa tonight. We have got a camera set up there. And we're going to be taking you through this.
She's speaking -- well, there's Chuck Grassley. He's speaking right now. She is going to be speaking at the Reagan Dinner there tonight. And that's where we're going to have our own CNN political producer, Peter Hamby, who is going to be taking us through this.
As a matter of fact, we got Peter on the phone right now.
Just give us a heads-up, Peter. First of all, what's the timing on this going to be?
PETER HAMBY, CNN POLITICAL PRODUCER: After Grassley finishes -- I think he just finished -- there is going to be a tribute, a video tribute, to Ronald Reagan. This is the Reagan Dinner. It will followed by Iowa GOP chairman, Matthew Strawn, who is going to introduce Sarah Palin, who just showed up here in a black SUV. And she's waiting backstage. Should just be a couple minutes from now.
SANCHEZ: All right, sounds perfect. Thank you, Peter. You hang tight. We are going to be getting back to you in just a little bit to get more on this.
There's also breaking news tonight from the Justice Department. They're charging a couple with trying to sell nuclear secrets to Venezuela. Now, we count down our people list from number four.
A 75-year-old man and his 68-year-old wife worked at Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico. The FBI created a sting operation to find out whether they would be willing to sell state secrets. And apparently they did, nuclear secrets.
Pedro Mascheroni is a scientist born in Argentina. His America- born wife was a contractor. The FBI agent who apparently nailed them was posing as a Venezuelan official who wanted to develop a nuclear bomb within 10 years. Sounds terrifying, right? The good news, no real Venezuelan officials were involved.
Here's number three. Pardon me while I cough. Those 33 Chilean miners trapped now for weeks, apparently -- boy, this is one of those moments in television where things like this happen.
To make matters not worse, Angie Massie, let's do this. Let's take a break. And we will pick up on this on the other side, because my throat is getting really dry. I'm going to drink a little water. And we will be right back. Stay right there.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK) SANCHEZ: Once again, there's an update on a big story that we're following for you tonight. The woman who apparently threw acid on her face, her family has just spoken. We're turning that sound around for you. And we should be able to play it in just a little bit.
By the way, I apologize. It's been a very long day today. And my throat went out on me there at the very beginning, but I think after drinking a little bit of water, we're good to go.
Now to this story. Those 33 Chilean miners trapped now for more than six weeks watched and celebrated as a giant drill broke right through the ceiling of their underground cave. The drill bore a hole. Now, let me kind of figure this out for you here.
It's nearly half a mile wide down into the earth. Now, the hole right now is only about so big, right here, yay big, 12 inches wide, obviously too small for people to be able to get through.
So, the plan now is to make that hole much wider. How wide? Twenty-six inches across to be exact. And the men will then be literally sucked out in these tube-like devices that apparently they're going to send down there.
But the fit is still going to be so tight to get them out through that shaft that they may have to -- You ready for this? -- sedate them and blindfold them. If you are cringing just hearing that, so was I.
Here's number two. Natalee Holloway's mother has reportedly confronted the man that she's convinced killed her daughter. She did it in a face-to-face meeting in a jail in Peru, where he's being held for the murder of another girl. Beth Holloway likely surprised Joran van der Sloot and spent several minutes talking to him, reportedly.
One would expect her to ask questions like this, right? Did you kill my daughter? And, if so, what did you do with her body? Well, it's still not known if van der Sloot gave up any information. Reports indicate that he was not represented at the time by an attorney.
So, who is number one on my list of people making news on this night? It's the pope's controversial visit to the United Kingdom that was overshadowed by a security scare. And we're taking you through that.
Also, alter, the girl with the bandaged face who tugged at our hearts, she said she would forgive the person who threw acid on her face. She blamed it on a black woman. The problem is, she threw acid on her own face.
We will be right back.
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SANCHEZ: Hey, welcome back. I'm Rick Sanchez.
Let's get right back to the most important people making news on this night. And this is number one.
Six men who are now under arrest on suspicion of terrorism in London. Juxtapose that with the fact that Pope Benedict XVI is making his first visit to the U.K. There are reports an alleged terror plot may involve a potential threat to the pope.
Meanwhile, Scotland Yard is being very tight-lipped on this one. We do know the pope's security detail was closely reviewed. The pontiff is going ahead with his full schedule. And the Vatican spokesperson is saying they're not particularly worried.
The pope's visit comes at an important time in the Catholic Church. And CNN is reporting right in the heart of it. My colleague Gary Tuchman has just put together an incredible documentary. It's about child abuse that was covered up, guilty priests relocated, the sex abuse scandal that is rocking the Catholic Church. As a cardinal and then as a Vatican official, what did the pope know? The present pope, what did he know then and what did he do? CNN investigates next weekend, September 25 and 26, at 8:00 p.m. Eastern.
New pictures are in from New York and they may very well settle once and for all whether the area was hit by a tornado last night. The storm packed winds of up to 90 miles per hour, ripping up 100- year-old trees which crushed cars and damaged homes. At least one person was killed when a tree fell on her car. The fast-moving storm hasn't yet been classified as a tornado by the National Weather Service, but to those New Yorkers who lived through it, it certainly looked and felt like one.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And, all of a sudden this huge, dark cloud just starts to hover over us, and it just got darker and darker.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It was very dark and fast and a lot of power.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I mean, like, that's a tornado. I know it's a tornado.
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SANCHEZ: All right. Here's the money shot. Tonight, there's another piece of video -- I want to share it with you right here -- we need to show you, which it seems to know or prove once and for all that this was in fact a tornado.
This is sent by an iReporter, somebody who is a viewer of RICK'S LIST from Queens. All right, look at these shots you are looking at right there. See all those trees that are down? You see all those trees, some of them actually split in half?
Now, watch what happens when the camera zooms over to the other side of the street. And it's going to be happening in just a little bit. You're going to be able to make out -- all right, that's one side of the street. That's where the tornado hit. Now you only see something like this happen, where one side of the street is completely destroyed. Look at the other side. Trees are fine.
Look at the 7/Eleven. No problem. Nothing down. Now look at this side. See the trees down? That's what has convinced some meteorologists to say this video shows without a shadow of a doubt that they were hit last night in New York or in the area of Queens and the Bronx and Brooklyn by twisters.
Now this.
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SANCHEZ: Let me ask you some questions about your positions that people would want to know about.
Same-sex marriage, where do you stand on that?
PALADINO: No.
SANCHEZ: What is your position on abortion?
PALADINO: No.
SANCHEZ: Should a woman have a right to have an abortion if she's -- if she's been raped?
PALADINO: No.
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SANCHEZ: All right, you remember my interview with Carl Paladino, right, steadfast in his answers, especially about women's issues.
For example, he told me that even if woman is raped by a relative, she must have the baby. Well, how does that square with his admission of sending e-mails of women and horses? It's got a lot of women's groups fired up tonight.
Also, one establishment Republican has chosen to fight back against the Tea Party. Who is that establishment Republican? You're going to find out in just a little bit.
And Sarah Palin has just taken the stage in Iowa. We're going to be listening to her in just a little bit. She's going to do just some of her thank-yous, introduce some of the folks in the crowd. When we come back, you will listen to what she says about a potential run for the presidency.
Stay right there. We're going to be right back.
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SANCHEZ: What are Sarah Palin's intentions? It's what many Americans want to know. There's been a lot of talk about her possibly wanting to make a bid for the presidency. She's in Iowa, which is making a lot of people lean in and examine her words. So, let's just do that, shall we? She's in Iowa for a Reagan Dinner. Let's dip in, Dan.
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SARAH PALIN (R), FORMER ALASKA GOVERNOR: We can learn more from these kids than they are ever going to learn from us. So, on behalf of those families of those with special children -- and, some day, I hope my son is big enough and strong enough to get to shake your next governor's hand, Terry Branstad.
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PALIN: So, Terry was at a town hall meeting when he got the call that I had endorsed him. No big darn deal. No big deal.
But he gets this call. And immediately after the announcement, a real clever Iowan in the crowd, this gal, she says, well, Terry, does that mean then that you will endorse her? And he got it right. He told the crowd, you know, we need to stay focused on this election, not the next one.
And I said, yes, I always try that, too, to pivot out of the answer. But he is right. He is right. Truly, we can't wait until 2012 to get our country back on the right track. We need to start now by electing strong leaders who aren't afraid to shake it up, to rein in the federal government. It's time for no more business as usual. It is time to take our country back.
(CHEERING AND APPLAUSE)
PALIN: So, how do we do this? Got to elect leaders who respect we, the people, like Chuck Grassley. We need him back in the United States Senate.
(CHEERING AND APPLAUSE)
PALIN: Senator Grassley has a special place in my heart. He's the only guy I know who loves to Twitter as much as I do for fun.
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PALIN: Today is his 77th birthday, or, as Reagan would say, it's the 38th anniversary of his 39th birthday.
So, happy anniversary, Chuck.
(CHEERING AND APPLAUSE)
PALIN: Senator Grassley hasn't forgotten where he's from and who he represents, understanding that government is supposed to work for the American people, not the other way around.
And that's why he stood strong against that mother of all unfunded mandates, Obamacare. He's refuting the lies in its claims and he's promising to repeal and replace this scheme with commonsense reform.
Folks like your senator and your congressmen, Latham and King, they are holding the line on federal spending and government overreach in Washington. They're out there doing this for us in D.C. So it's here in our states that we need that help, too.
Here in the states, it's the attorneys general who have continued the fight. We need strong, principled leaders in these A.G. offices, public servants who respect our Constitution, who will protect states' rights and who know the 10th Amendment.
It's why I'm supporting Brenna Findley for A.G. and Kim Reynolds for lieutenant governor in Iowa.
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PALIN: You are good people, Iowa. Iowa and all across the great U.S., we have some great commonsense conservatives who are putting it all on the line, these candidates and their supporters, fighting, fighting for what is right.
And a lot of them just fought some tough primary battles. That's good. Contested primaries are good. It's good for the system. It's great for voters, democracy at work. Competition is good. Healthy competition breeds success and it us all work harder. And this all rebuilds character.
But the time for primary debate is over. The time for unity now, that's the time upon us, because the time for choosing is near.
In just 46 days, Republicans will put their ideas and their experience on the line, and they will let the voters decide. It is time to unite. If the goal really is to take away the gavel from Pelosi and Reid, and to stop the Obama agenda and make government respect the will of the people and the wisdom of the people, then it is time to unite.
And congratulations to the primary voters and to the primary victors. Now, unsuccessful GOP campaigns and deflated political pundits, remember, attitudes are contagious. So, make sure yours are worth catching.
Quick -- just quick woodshed moment, I think that's just what moms kind of got to do, and mama grizzlies, but I will try not to growl, OK? But unsuccessful campaigns and expert beltway pundits all bent out of shape right now after some recent primary battles, I got to ask, did you ever lose a big game growing up?
You know, I lost. I lost. And I have lost games, races, reputation.
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PALIN: You lose some, you win some. When faced with challenges, when faced with setbacks, I know growing up my folks would say, show grace. Rebuild character. Well, my mom would say that. My dad was more along the lines of, don't retreat, just reload. That was my dad.
Either way...
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PALIN: ... it's for the sake of our country, for America's future, true patriots, reload with character and truth and helpful efforts to restore what's right about America and what will work for America.
We need elected leaders in our republic to do that. So, let us unite. Primary voters have spoken. Now, I don't know how the machine works. I don't really know who they are who strategize and organize up in that hierarchy in the GOP machine or in the Democrats' machine. I don't know.
I don't know if I really want to know or need to know, because I think some of those experts were the ones who were wrong in Massachusetts and Virginia and New Jersey and Delaware and Alaska and Kentucky.
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PALIN: So, I don't know who organizes the efforts that is needed to put obsessive partisanship aside when it gets in the way of just doing what's right for the American people and those internal power struggles that need to be set aside for the good of the order.
But, if I were king, more like if I were a coach, and if I were a coach writing a playbook, I would say, look, everyone has constructive roles in this. The needs are great heading into these midterm elections because the cause is so great. The cause? The great awakening of America. And the needs? Truth in America.
How do we get out there? How do we get the message out there to the voters? Practical ways. One, we got to raise funds, got to knock on doors. We have got to hold the press accountable when you know that they're making things up and telling untruths. We have got to do this together.
(CHEERING AND APPLAUSE)
PALIN: And, by the way, I'm the biggest proponent of freedom of the press in this country, our young men and women in uniform willing to fight and die for our constitutional rights, including that right to that free press.
It's why I'm hot on this lamestream media issue. It's why I'm adamant that they tell the truth. How dare anyone disrespect our troops' sacrifice by claiming the right to print and to say anything, without a corresponding responsibility to truth?
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PALIN: And in this kind of strange, unaccountable day of anyone and everyone getting to claim that they are a journalist, you have got to ask yourself, who are they really, when the media uses, say on deep, deep background, anonymous sources to cowardly attack someone, their record, their intentions?
First, remember that these sources, if they ever even really exist, first, remember that they are cowards, usually in some self- preservation mode.
SANCHEZ: We have breaking news that is coming into us right now. We're going to be cutting out of that speech by Sarah Palin in Iowa.
Haven't recognized where there's a lot of news being made by her there. Obviously, the question is, is Sarah Palin going to be running for office? So far the speech has sounded very much like her stump speeches and many of the other speeches that she's given recently.
So, let me bring you up to date on something that is going on right now out West. This is in San Francisco. This is a breaking news story we got moments ago.
First, Mark, if you would, shoot that Twitter board over there, if we can. I want to show you the news that -- and this is breaking up now a little bit. Here's what made us privy to what's going on. This is from one of our affiliates, ABC 7. This is in the Bay Area.
And they are saying that a U.S. Airways flight bound for Hawaii has Mideast or is making an emergency landing in San Francisco. And here's what got a lot of folks alarmed. And that's that, due to smoke in the cockpit, so the pilots had to turn this thing around and get it back on the ground.
As far as we can tell -- all right, Dan, now go back to that live picture. As far as we can tell, there's reason to believe that -- and expect this shot to break up, by the way. It's just now coming in. This is a live picture right now. This is from KGO.
And the information we have -- now, this is again from KGO. And I'm going to read it to you, that a U.S. Airways flight made an emergency landing. Now, they use that in past tense, as if the flight has already landed.
There's reason to believe that this is the shot of the plane, although we can't confirm that here at CNN. So we just want to be real clear about that, OK? A U.S. Airways flight made an emergency landing at San Francisco International Airport Friday. This is afternoon after a report of smoke in the cockpit.
There's that live signal that we're getting in from KGO. There you see the bay. It's Flight 432. It was headed from Phoenix to Hawaii when it was suddenly diverted, landed safely just after 5:00 p.m., we're told.
Now, we're told that a U.S. Airways spokesperson said the smoke had begun to dissipate, but the emergency landing had to be taken. So, that's the very latest information that we're bringing for you right now.
As we get more information on this story, we will obviously bring it to you.
Meanwhile, tonight we have two other big stories that we're following for you. As you have heard, one woman who through acid on her own face according to police did blame an African-American for something which turned out to be a lie. Tonight, her family is responding for the very first time. And I'm going to take you through that story and let you hear what they have to say.
Also, an unbelievable story coming out of Florida about a man who defends the honor of his daughter on a school bus by going onto the school bus and screaming at the kids and threatening them. Why? This has to do with a condom, of all things.
We will be right back.
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SANCHEZ: All right, let me catch you up once again on the breaking news.
This is coming to us from San Francisco. Plane has to be diverted, makes a quick loop, turns around, comes back to the airport. It was alarming to hear the preliminary finding, which was that there was a report of smoke in the cockpit.
This is Flight 432. It was headed from Phoenix to Hawaii. Instead just after it got over the ocean forget about it. Let's turn this thing around. They brought it back to San Francisco. As we understand, that's the plane there. They brought it back. It seems things are checking out but if we get any more information on this or if there's any other advisories or if there's any other situation about the passengers, we'll bring that to you right away.
In the meantime, one of the biggest stories that we're following today came to us this afternoon. We were shocked when we looked at the video. And I want to share some of this video with you as well.
What would you do if somebody bullied your daughter? And let's suppose your daughter had problems to begin with.
Well, one dad decides to take matters in his own hands. He storms onto a bus and he starts yelling at the kids. You won't believe the fury that he's exhibiting. I'm going to take you through that in just a little bit.
Also tonight, is Lindsay Lohan going back to jail immediately? We're hearing reports something just happened and it may involve -- no. Not again. Again? Brooke, again? Does this have to do with the whole --
BROOKE BALDWIN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: The whole court-mandated drug test.
SANCHEZ: She was told by a judge specifically not --
BALDWIN: To wear the anklet -- not to -- don't drugs. SANCHEZ: Wow. So, there's an update.
BALDWIN: There is an update.
SANCHEZ: And it's not good for her? Enough said. Let's go to break. We'll be right back with Brooke Baldwin. Wow.
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SANCHEZ: There are some women's groups who are not at all happy with the new Tea Party-backed candidate for governor in the state of New York. And because of some of the things that he said, including what he said on this show, we're soon going to take you through that. In fact, Brooke is going to take you through that. But before we get to that --
BALDWIN: Yes, not just women's groups.
SANCHEZ: There's something else going on.
BALDWIN: Something else going on right now. So if you hop on Twitter, there are two. One trending phrase, two words trending tonight. Drug tests.
SANCHEZ: Oh.
BALDWIN: CNN is working to confirm yes, yes, yes, but tonight, "People's" magazine is reporting via Twitter that -- swing over that way and here's the tweet -- Lindsay Lohan fails court-mandated drug test.
SANCHEZ: Wow.
BALDWIN: Faces more jail time. "People" is turning to their sources. The sources say Lohan failed this test in recent days. So that means she would face 30 days in jail for violating her probation. Keep in mind, I think it was August 24th when she finally got out of jail after serving two weeks in jail for violating her DUI probation.
SANCHEZ: That is so sad. I mean, when you're told specifically by a judge and the whole world watches, please, don't do this anymore.
BALDWIN: Right. Hoping it's not true. We're picking up the phone. We're calling all kinds of people in L.A.
SANCHEZ: Yes.
BALDWIN: But that's what "People" magazine -- "People" magazine is reporting tonight.
SANCHEZ: That's just a sad story.
BALDWIN: Story number two, let's talk about Tea Party-backed Republican gubernatorial candidate out of New York, self-made millionaire Carl Paladino, your interview with him Wednesday, was it? I think Wednesday afternoon, two days ago? SANCHEZ: Yes, that's right.
BALDWIN: Went viral. In case you haven't heard, Paladino's stance on abortion, crystal clear. Here it is.
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SANCHEZ: What is your position on abortion?
CARL PALADINO (R), NEW YORK GOVERNOR CANDIDATE: No.
SANCHEZ: Should a woman have a right to have an abortion if she's been raped?
PALADINO: No.
SANCHEZ: She should not? She should have to have the baby?
PALADINO: And the baby can be adopted, yes.
SANCHEZ: What if it's a case of incest?
PALADINO: The baby can be adopted, yes.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BALDWIN: Pretty powerful back and forth, right? If you watched that.
SANCHEZ: Yes. That's his opinion.
BALDWIN: That's his opinion. He says he's, you know, a family values kind of guy, conservative guy. But we sat around our editorial table this evening because we took that. We want to juxtapose that with this conversation. Our colleague, Anderson Cooper, had Paladino on his show last night and the subject came up -- these e-mails Paladino forwarded to his friends. Here is that conversation.
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ANDERSON COOPER, CNN ANCHOR: You forwarded a number of x-rated e-mails. One even showing bestiality, a woman in a horse, to an e- mail list of your friends and associates. How does that jive with conservative values that you say you hold?
CARL PALADINO (R), NEW YORK GOVERNOR CANDIDATE: I apologized to those that were offended by me forwarding e-mails to a personal group of friends. I forwarded them. I did. I'm in the construction industry. We got all kinds of nonsense like that on a daily basis.
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BALDWIN: So there were a couple of e-mails, right. So one of the e-mails was a pornographic e-mail involving a woman and a horse.
SANCHEZ: Well, but that's -- a woman and a horse? BALDWIN: Bestiality.
SANCHEZ: So the point is these are two issues that involve women.
BALDWIN: Correct.
SANCHEZ: One is abortion and one of them is something as horrible as that.
BALDWIN: Correct. Absolutely.
SANCHEZ: They both are issues that involve women. And he has stances or he's done something on both of those.
BALDWIN: Sure. So they're coming forward and they're saying, look, I mean, apparently Rick Lazio, who was his primary opponent, didn't make such a big deal about that. And if you read the "Buffalo News" today, they're saying they're not making the same mistake.
SANCHEZ: Well, that's interesting. And there are women's groups who are obviously angry at him and his position as a result of some of this reporting.
BALDWIN: Correct.
SANCHEZ: Wow. That is interesting. Are we good?
BALDWIN: We're good.
SANCHEZ: Thanks so much for bringing this to our attention.
BALDWIN: Have a good weekend.
SANCHEZ: You better hang tight with my voice the way it is tonight.
BALDWIN: I know. I raced up here.
SANCHEZ: I may need you. I want to turn now to our list of the most controversial stories on the news on this night. And I want to begin with the crime that we've all been hearing about and reliving with the man and a jury in Connecticut this week. Here is number three.
Prosecutors say one of the suspects accused of violently invading the Petit home, killing Jennifer Hawke-Petit and her daughters, chose the family because he spotted the 11-year-old girl in a Stop and Shop and decided randomly to follow them home. Why? Because he was attracted to the little girl.
Some of the evidence presented in the case left jurors in tears. They've been allowed to look at photos of the crime scene including the bedroom where Joshua Komisarjevsky is accused of raping and beating the youngest daughter, Michaela. Police officers say that Steven Hayes raped and strangled Jennifer, that's the mother, and both are accused in the death of the oldest daughter, Hayley, after the house was set on fire.
Can you imagine? Jurors had the day off for Yom Kippur today. Trial resumes Monday.
Here is number two. That 28-year-old woman who said a stranger threw a cup of acid in her face admits that she did it to herself. And tonight, for the first time, we're hearing from her family. Her parents took to the airwaves tonight to apologize for her daughter.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: There were no signs. And you know, we really don't know why at this point. But it's our hope that the medical community can find the answers. And she's obviously dealing with some deep internal, emotional and psychological problems that we had no knowledge of and we hope that she'll get the help that she needs.
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Police have spent hundreds of hours on this case after Storro told them that an African-American woman had thrown acid on her face. Many African-Americans are livid about this, as you might expect, as are many other Americans. Investigators now say Storro is in a fragile state of mind. It's up to prosecutors now to decide whether or not they're going to charge her with a crime.
So what is the biggest controversy that is making news on this night? Well, take a look at this.
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JAMES JONES, CHARGED WITH DISORDERLY CONDUCT: I'm going (expletive deleted) you up. This is my daughter and I will kill a (expletive deleted) to back her.
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SANCHEZ: A father storms a school bus. He is convinced that some kids have just thrown a condom on his daughter's head.
Tonight, there is a twist to this story. But you'll understand his frustration. Stay right there. You'll see it for yourself.
This is RICK'S LIST. We'll be right back.
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SANCHEZ: Welcome back. We've got some -- we've got an update, Brooke, on the situation out in San Francisco.
BALDWIN: So there was the plane. It couldn't go anywhere because of the smoke in the cockpit, right?
SANCHEZ: Made a quick turn there. BALDWIN: Folks in San Francisco -- so we have now learned through a tweet -- let's take a look over here. They have tweeted you directly. An update.
US Airways says there is another plane ready to take passengers to destinations. So what destination might that be, Rick Sanchez? Do we feel bad for them? I mean, I know it puts them out a little bit.
SANCHEZ: Is it Maui?
BALDWIN: They're going to Maui.
SANCHEZ: Maui.
BALDWIN: They're going to Maui. So aloha, you're going to be OK.
SANCHEZ: Good for them. Let's get back on that plane.
BALDWIN: Yes.
SANCHEZ: Have a drink and go.
BALDWIN: They're going to be all right.
SANCHEZ: Oh, that's fantastic. Well, we're glad that that thing is going to turn out all right. Thanks, Brooke. Appreciate it.
BALDWIN: You're welcome.
SANCHEZ: There are some breaking developments now in one of the biggest controversies making news on this night. This is one of those what would you do situations. Put yourself in this man's shoes. Would you? Just how far would you go to protect your child, your daughter, no less? I know a little bit about that.
You're about to find out what one father did. And then I'm going to tell you about a big twist that we got on the story just late tonight. Let me set the scene for you.
We're in Stanford, Florida. Middle school students are riding on a bus. In the middle of the aisle, there's an unwrapped condom. Who would put that there? Well, they're kids. Right?
If you look closely, you can see a boy throws the condom into the hair of a girl that's sitting in front of him there. It's kind of hard to make out. We know. She struggles to pull the condom out of her hair and the entire bus suddenly erupts in laughter. Here, they're laughing at her. Listen.
They're making fun of that little girl. I mean, it's a pretty heartbreaking scene. It's all about kids making fun of another kid who apparently was having some problems of her own. The very next day the father of one of those students storms the bus. He's convinced it's his daughter that they've done this to and he is livid. James Jones apparently thinks his daughter is the one on that video. There he is. He gets into the bus. Important note, the girl has cerebral palsy. So he screams at the kids, telling them to leave his daughter alone. Watch. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Now everybody sit down. Everybody sit down.
JAMES JONES, CHARGED WITH DISORDERLY CONDUCT: Show me which one. Show me which one. I'm going (expletive deleted) you up. This is my daughter, and I will kill a (expletive deleted) to back her.
If anything happens to my daughter, I'm going to (expletive deleted) you up and everybody on this (expletive deleted).
(END VIDEO CLIP)
SANCHEZ: Yes.
BALDWIN: Wow.
SANCHEZ: You can understand, I mean, a father's rage especially, you know, when it has to do with his little girl. You just heard it. He threatens to kill the kids on the bus, says he'll do anything to protect his daughter, that he won't let this kid -- his child be disrespected.
Well, police officers came there. They arrested James Jones. He understood it. By the way, he's charged with disorderly conduct and disturbing a school function. And after he made bail, reporters were waiting for him. They caught up and here's what he said.
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JAMES JONES, CHARGED WITH DISORDERLY CONDUCT: I made a mistake. I'm trying to pay for that. I'm worried about my daughter. That's all I'm worried about.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you feel bad though for these students?
JONES: I feel bad. I do feel bad. I've told you that. I feel bad. There isn't anything else I can do. OK.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
SANCHEZ: He does feel bad. I mean, he just lost his head there for a moment. He's being very honest about it.
But there's a big twist in this story tonight. We reached out to the school and officials are telling us that the girl who had the condom thrown on her head turns out it wasn't his daughter. It was another little girl, which obviously doesn't excuse the actions. We're told the girl reported the incident to the school and somebody has now been punished for it. On top of all this, local reporters tells CNN that Jones' daughter is now in the hospital being treated for stress. Can you believe this? A family member says the girl is now on a suicide watch.
BALDWIN: No.
SANCHEZ: Why? We don't know why Jones thought it was his daughter in the attack or whether she told him that, but the school says he crossed the line and he should have reported any concerns to officials. Some parents agree. But some of them also say they can see where he's coming from. Listen to this.
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JASON TATE, FATHER OF 6-YEAR-OLD GIRL: I can feel where he's coming from of why he was mad and said and did what he did. As far as him being an adult, so I would handle it more adult-like.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
SANCHEZ: Isn't this like one of those slice of life situations.
BALDWIN: It is. It is. You can be empathetic with the dad.
SANCHEZ: Yes.
BALDWIN: Yet at the same time it wasn't his daughter.
SANCHEZ: And then there are kids and kids do stupid things because we did when we there that age.
BALDWIN: There's a total ruckus on the bus.
SANCHEZ: Right.
BALDWIN: How could you tell, you know, which girl perhaps had the condom on her head. But obviously he felt remorse, but --
SANCHEZ: And a man ends up --
BALDWIN: A sticky situation.
SANCHEZ: A man ends up in jail. His daughter is now in the hospital. I mean, the thing is very, very bizarre. The school also reiterates, by the way, and we should point this out when we contacted them tonight.
BALDWIN: Yes.
SANCHEZ: They have a zero tolerance for this kind of behavior, you know, kids picking on other kids.
All right. Take a look at this. It's not the first time that we've seen Darth Vader rob a store. Right? But it's what he did before he put on the Darth Vader suit that makes this guy "el stupido" of the evening. That's the costume he should have worn.
Also, a prosecutor sent sexually explicit text messages to a victim of domestic abuse. Are you kidding me? He's on "The List U Don't Want 2 Be On."
We're going to be right back. This is RICK'S LIST.
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SANCHEZ: This is an amazing story that I need to share with you. If you're the victim of a crime, reliving the nightmare in a cold courtroom would be what? A terrifying experience, right? Especially when you come face to face with the suspect. The guy you're charging with violating you. So you should be able to feel safe around the people who are representing you, right? Like prosecutors. Time for "The List U Don't Want 2 Be On."
This is Ken Kratz. He's a prosecutor in Wisconsin. He has worked as an advocate for crime victims for two decades. Knowing his background, you're not going to believe what he did. Let me set this one up for you.
A woman goes to police and complains that her boyfriend nearly choked her to death. Beat her. A victim of domestic abuse. The boyfriend is charged. So the case goes to trial.
Kratz is the district attorney. He's prosecuting this guy. He's supposed to be on her side, right? Helping her. But during the case, he actually puts the moves on her instead. She's the victim. He allegedly sent dozens of sexually explicit text messages to this woman. So outrageous -- yes, let me read some of these texts.
In one, Kratz asks her if she's, quote, "the kind of girl that likes secret contact with an older married elected district attorney." Can you believe that? He also calls her, quote, "a hot young nymph." He also says he wants to be with her and she's so hot and treat me so well that you'd be the woman are you that good?" Huh?
I should note here the woman texted him back but did not engage him. She tells police that she felt intimated, that if she hadn't responded, Kratz may have thrown the case out and not helped her. After she complained, he stopped working the case.
Well, Kratz is now apologizing. Listen to what he says about his actions and how he's dealing with it.
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KEN KRATZ, CALUMET COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY: My behavior was inappropriate. I'm embarrassed and ashamed for the choices that I made and the fault was mine alone. After considering my selfishness and my arrogance in contacting this young woman, I immediately engaged in individual psychotherapy to address these issues.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
SANCHEZ: It is the rehab excuse. Many groups are now calling on Kratz to resign. But he's not. Many residents are furious. And they're saying he should sit in the same seat of the very criminals that he prosecutes. He's crossed the line. Maybe not legally but certainly morally and professionally. Ken Kratz, he finishes number tonight as a prosecutor no less on "The List U Don't Want 2 Be On."
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SANCHEZ: Let's get you through "Fotos," shall we? Here's the animation and the music.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Ah, dios mio.
SANCHEZ: Brooke's laughing at me. Ferndale, Michigan, here's a crook with a creative disguise. A Darth Vader mask, no less. The problem is he put it on after he was already on camera.
BALDWIN: No.
SANCHEZ: Stupid is as stupid does, right? So police get a shot of this guy. They come in and they're able to arrest him. That's what he really looks like. And there he is with the dumb mask. By the way, it wasn't a light saber he was using today. I'll leave that alone.
Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. The heavyweight in this prize fight was a 13-foot 900-pound alligator. Now let me show you the little lady who actually caught this thing.
BALDWIN: Are you southern all of a sudden?
SANCHEZ: Yes, why not. When you catch alligators, you've got to talk with a southern accent. Brooke Baldwin, what's the matter with you. Look at the size of this monster. Is this big or what?
BALDWIN: It's huge.
SANCHEZ: He's huge. And she's just a little thing. Just goes to show that you don't have to be big to catch a big gator.
All right. Before we do anything else, I want to tell you something. The book, you know, "Conventional Idiocy."
BALDWIN: You have a book?
SANCHEZ: The book about our show.
BALDWIN: Animation.
SANCHEZ: Oh, animation go.
BALDWIN: People love this.
SANCHEZ: Dan, you want to roll the animation?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Ah, dios mio.
SANCHEZ: Did you look at the expression -- Brooke, look at the expression on her face.
BALDWIN: I got the giggles. I have the giggles. SANCHEZ: All right. The book according to Amazon, "Conventional Idiocy" is now number four on books on government. Number eight on books on politics and number eight on books on journalism. All within the top ten. Yes, baby.
BALDWIN: Yes, baby.
SANCHEZ: All right. So, we have to give a book out.
BALDWIN: Yes.
SANCHEZ: Who will we give it to, Brooke? Here it is.
BALDWIN: You read it. I feel silly reading it.
SANCHEZ: You're sure?
BALDWIN: Yes.
SANCHEZ: Whatever would you do without her? Brooke.
BALDWIN: Oh.
SANCHEZ: See, they're talking about you, Brooke.
BALDWIN: Thanks, Michael Howington.
SANCHEZ: That's Michael Howington.
BALDWIN: All right.
SANCHEZ: He's the man tonight.
BALDWIN: He does -- you do not know -- what would you do without me?
SANCHEZ: I don't know. They're crazy about you.
BALDWIN: And Angie and Stephanie and our team.
SANCHEZ: Here now, Larry King.
